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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're very honored.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, it's crazy just because of him here. You're

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Speaker 2: the only reason I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Are you free to talk a little bit?

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Speaker 2: I'm not speaking cameras.

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Speaker 1: That's seen Alexander. He was a hostage of Hamas for

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Speaker 1: three years. How long has it been.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred and fifty days or something? I don't remember exactly,

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Speaker 2: since October of twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Uh. He was on the phone with Trump yesterday saying,

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Speaker 1: the only reason I'm here, You're the only reason I'm here.

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Speaker 1: You saved my life, Trumpet negotiating with somebody in Hamas

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Speaker 1: and bypassing Israel on that whole thing and getting the

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Speaker 1: guy out. So Uh, that was a good story. Over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, we mentioned on Friday how Bruce Springsteen had

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Speaker 1: bad mouthed Trump in the United States while he was

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Speaker 1: kicking off his world tour in Great Britain. We are

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Speaker 1: annoyed by that. It was after we got off the

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Speaker 1: air on Friday that Trump truth to this out about

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Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen. I see that highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes

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Speaker 1: to a foreign country to speak badly about the president

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Speaker 1: of the United States. Never liked him, never liked his

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Speaker 1: music or his radical left politics, and importantly, he's not

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Speaker 1: a talented guy.

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Speaker 2: I love stuff like low.

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Speaker 1: He's just a pushy of notxious jerk all caps who

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Speaker 1: fervently supported crook and Joe Biden and mentally incompetent fool

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Speaker 1: and our worst ever president who came close to destroying

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Speaker 1: our country. If I wasn't elected, it would have been

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Speaker 1: gone by now. Sleepy dough Joe didn't have a clue

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Speaker 1: as to what he was doing. But Springsteen is quote dumb,

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Speaker 1: is a rock unquote.

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Speaker 2: I like how he puts quotes.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know exactly what that means, and couldn't

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Speaker 1: see what was going on, or could he which is

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Speaker 1: even worse, This dried out prune of a rocker. Prune

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Speaker 1: also in quotes his skin is all atrophied. Trump right,

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Speaker 1: let me close with the sentence. I'll say it again

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Speaker 1: because it's just too good. This dried out prune of

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Speaker 1: a rocker, his skin is all atrophied. Ought to keep

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Speaker 1: his mouth shut until he gets back into the country.

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Speaker 1: That's just standard fair also in quotes. Then we'll see

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Speaker 1: how it goes for him.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm glad you find it so amusing. I

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Speaker 2: just I find it very amusing. On what level? Help

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Speaker 2: me understand? His skin is atrophied.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious that the president of the United

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Speaker 1: States is making fun of an old rock and roller

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Speaker 1: for having saying his skin.

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe it's even happening, right, And we

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Speaker 2: can't be held responsible for what we find amusing. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: I just find it troubling. It's just weird.

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Speaker 1: It's weird.

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Speaker 2: Uh So anyway, although none of that's really of any consequence.

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Speaker 2: And uh and and and Bruce is obnoxious and a

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Speaker 2: blow hard and a limousine liberal and how to shut

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Speaker 2: up and plays damn music. Anyway, Having said.

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Speaker 1: That, one of the own quotes, why do you think

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Speaker 1: he puts word of random words in quotes That happens

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Speaker 1: a lot online.

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Speaker 2: It's just a way to emphasize that word.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a capitalizing it or okay, gotcha, okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get you onto that.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, And you know, Hunter Thompson used

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Speaker 2: to do this way back in the day, and people

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Speaker 2: but just capitalize it to emphasize I do that. I've

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Speaker 2: never used a quote as an amateur linguist. I think

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Speaker 2: it's interesting how you know, print language evolves to imitate

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Speaker 2: speaking language. Anyway. Uh so, Yeah, and the other thing

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Speaker 2: Trump tweeted out. And for the record, I've got a

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Speaker 2: couple of things that I've been wanting to talk about

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Speaker 2: how Trump, the Trump administration has essentially put out the

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Speaker 2: word disparate impact. The theory of disparate impact, meaning if

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Speaker 2: a lower percentage of black people get accepted to be cops,

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Speaker 2: that's proof that the test is racist. They've said that's wrong,

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Speaker 2: it's racist, and it no longer will guide any federal policy.

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Speaker 2: Huge victory for common sense, for meritocracy, the rest of it.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about that move. It's incredibly important. I say,

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Speaker 2: well done. So the Trump's Energy Department. So the Trump

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Speaker 2: government said that that's the way they're going to look

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the administration, because the Supreme Court unfortunately has said

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Speaker 2: Bring it up again. That was an obscene couple of

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Speaker 2: rulings just idiotic, indefensible anyway, And another thing, I love

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Speaker 2: this headline, free the gas stove. Trump's Energy Department has

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Speaker 2: acted dozens of Biden appliances and regulations, like one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand pages of phony green new scam regulations are gone.

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Speaker 1: God I heard a good one the other day because

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Speaker 1: I have this last two dishwashers, I've had your modern

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Speaker 1: dishwasher because of all the dumb regulations they As has

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Speaker 1: been pointed out by many people, you practically have to

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Speaker 1: of all these different environmental regulations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so before I kicked Trump, I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: mention that. I mean, for instance, let's dig into this

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Gone are rules banning a wide swath

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Speaker 2: dishwashers and shower and articular chick. Gone is the government

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Speaker 2: wide effort to force electrification of the economy through appliance regulations,

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Speaker 2: all part of a historic action the Trump administration nounced

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Speaker 2: today reversing dozens of energy regulations, saving consumers more than

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Speaker 2: eleven billion dollars and cutting more than one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty five thousand words from the United States Code of Regulations.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, great, great, great, save you money. Hallelujah. Amen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like when Trump says things like in Bruce

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Speaker 1: Brington he has no talent. What. I just find that

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Speaker 1: so bizarre. It's like screaming that Kareem ab Duel Jabbar wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Even tall, right, That's just absurd anyway, So he was

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Speaker 2: tweeting truthing out a bunch of stuff the other day,

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Speaker 2: including and I'll just go ahead and shout the stuff

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Speaker 2: that's in all caps. Walmart should stop trying to blame

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Speaker 2: tariffs is the reason for raising prices throughout the chain.

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Speaker 2: Walmart made billions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Last year, far more than expected between Walmart and China.

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Speaker 1: They should eat the tariffs and not charge valued customers anything.

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Speaker 1: I'll be why, and so will your customers. Well many

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Speaker 1: exclamation points as usual. I agree with Bernie Sanders or

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Speaker 1: disagree with Bernie Sanders. I don't like Bernie when he

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Speaker 1: does this sort of thing. Oh that was Trump, you'd say, yes,

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Speaker 1: this was also Trump. After causing catastrophic inflation. Comrade kamalaw

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Speaker 1: announced that she wants to institute socialist price controls. Her

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Speaker 1: plan is very dangerous because it may sound good politically.

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Speaker 1: This is communist, this is Marxist, this is fascist. Yes,

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Speaker 1: both statements by Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Last year, he blasted Kamala Harris's proposal for price controls

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Speaker 2: on groceries. Now he's attacking Walmart for warning that it

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Speaker 2: will have to raise prices in the wake of the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, in claiming that Walmart would only

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Speaker 1: raise prices to make more profit made, you made enough

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Speaker 1: money last year, basically is what he's saying. He made

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Speaker 1: billions last year. Okay, when does this become a conservative thing?

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Speaker 1: You tell companies you've made enough money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be going to play your golf courts for free, sir,

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Speaker 2: because you made enough money last year. So, and the

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Speaker 2: other part of it is, you know, it's it's a

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Speaker 2: rebuttal of what he's claimed himself for months. He said

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Speaker 2: the foreign producers will pay the full cost to tariffs,

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Speaker 2: But now he's admitting that Walmart and American retailer will

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Speaker 2: have to eat some of the costs or pass them

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Speaker 2: on to their customers. And Walmart's net profit margin is

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Speaker 2: less than three percent. Now, it's an enormous company, so

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Speaker 2: if you have two point eight percent profit on you know,

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't have a bunch of room to absorb

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Speaker 2: the higher costs caused by tariffs. Retail competition is incredibly intense,

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Speaker 2: and Walmart's longtime comparative advantages advantage has been lower prices.

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Speaker 2: And what bothers me is Number one Trump trying to

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Speaker 2: tell Walmart how to run its business and number two

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Speaker 2: like that vague threat of retribution. Yeah, yeah, that's not cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm against that no matter who's the president. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: if you're just a hardcore you know, Trump fan, or

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Speaker 2: are you figure if admitting anything is wrong, that will

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Speaker 2: weaken the case and Democrats will win and the rest

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Speaker 2: of it. You know, I see your point, but I

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Speaker 2: just can't.

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Speaker 1: Very very bernie aoc. You could imagine either one of

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Speaker 1: them shouting that on the no Oligarchs tour, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Walmart's plenty of money, they have too much profit.

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Speaker 1: Will hold the Walmart accountable if they raise prices.

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Speaker 2: That's a very Bernie Sanders thing to say. And as always,

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Speaker 2: my real concern. And the reason I bring this up

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Speaker 2: is the dumb stuff Trump does might derail the fabulous

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Speaker 2: stuff he does, and that would kill me. Do you

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Speaker 2: mean dumb politically or for the way conservatism out of

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Speaker 2: work politically? I think the Republicans, you know, going for

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Speaker 2: this big, beautiful bill that gives.

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Speaker 1: Perfectly healthy work age men free healthcare might be a

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Speaker 2: That's what bothers me, right right, I think, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: saying what he said about Walmart and the rest of it,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to make much political difference

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Speaker 2: at all. I think the whole tariff thing will though

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Speaker 2: it'll mess up the economy either a little or a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where we are.

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Speaker 1: In terms of politics and the parties and stuff. It's

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Speaker 5: We really do need to be honest about whether the

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Speaker 1: I don't know that seems a little You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: So people wouldn't be talking about how Biden and Jill

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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, nobody's running against Joe Biden again.

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Speaker 1: I blame Joe Biden, Eh, how about all the people

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Speaker 2: Just like I don't even know what you call that? Well,

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Speaker 1: We played some earlier. It's exactly as it was described

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Speaker 1: every family. Blah blah blah what Joe Biden is saying

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Speaker 2: Heel right, Yeah, yeah, the timing's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, if you contemplate doctor Jill in her

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Speaker 1: I agree that Mark Alpern is saying that it's going

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty degrees. If within when did the

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Speaker 1: story break last night? I think it was last night

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Speaker 1: on my phone, I was getting the alert. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think so. If within a dozen hours Joe Scarborough and

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Speaker 1: that dude on CNN are both questioning the timing of this,

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Speaker 1: you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Well it's Joe Scarborough joining in. I mean, talk about

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Speaker 2: a rat fleeing a sinking ship. I mean he was

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Speaker 2: sailing the ship at least in terms of the media

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Speaker 2: covering up for the senility. So that's a little tough

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Speaker 2: to take. But yeah, it does absolutely indicate the fact

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Speaker 2: that everybody's saying the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this might be one of the ultimate backfires if

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Speaker 1: it goes the direction it looks like it's going. We're

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Speaker 1: in the early hours of this. Somebody gets some inside

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Speaker 1: reporting on how long he's known about this cancer diagnosis,

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Speaker 1: and it becomes completely evident that it was just you know,

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Speaker 1: a look over here story. WHOA, that's rock well right, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but come on. The Brian Stelters of the world and

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Speaker 1: the Joe's Scarborough and the Jake's Tapper. There's got to

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Speaker 1: be an extra hot place in hell for them now

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Speaker 1: to be saying, look.

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Speaker 2: At this, I believe he.

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Speaker 1: Is seen Allen and this is just to cover it up,

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Speaker 1: and doctor Jill is crazy and the no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, you are not welcome on our side.

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Speaker 6: Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell

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Speaker 6: you the truth, and that few if you can't handle

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Speaker 6: the truth, this version of Biden, intellectually, analytically is the

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Speaker 6: best Biden ever.

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Speaker 2: We don't want you in our team. You're not welcome here.

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Speaker 1: That was after the Wall Street Journal story came out.

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Speaker 1: Who now Jake Tappercall's heroes, those reporters.

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Speaker 2: It's also hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: So your anger toward them, I perfectly get. But if

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Joe Biden are playing upon people's sympathies cancer,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, and all the death he's had in

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Speaker 1: his family, you talk about a special hot place in hell,

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Speaker 1: I mean that is not cool, shocking yet unsurprising.

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Speaker 2: They come on, come on, I sound like Joe Biden.

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Speaker 7: Come on, come on anyway anyway, Eh, this is this

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Speaker 7: is the Biden crime family, the family of Hunter Biden

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Speaker 7: with this Wang in his gun crack and his uncle

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Speaker 7: Jim and the prophets and plausible deniability, My dear boy,

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Speaker 7: plausible deniability is Wang in his gun and it's just

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Speaker 7: the whole package and running a senile guy for president, shouting.

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Speaker 2: You did it, yow you at you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is not surprising, this is completely in character.

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Speaker 1: You answered all the questions.

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Speaker 2: You did such a great job. You answered every question.

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Speaker 1: I realized there's an extra depth of depravity to trotting

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Speaker 1: out a cancer diagnosis as.

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Speaker 2: A you know, a shield.

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Speaker 1: But it's like finding out that the Diddy was rude

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Speaker 1: to a waitress. I mean, well, yes, sure, wow, And

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Speaker 1: you got to remember the reporting that they're broke. That's

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Speaker 1: what makes you desperate enough to do crazy stuff being broke.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, what a cesspool? So being political cesspools,

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Speaker 2: I Joe am completely embittered by the political process. I

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Speaker 2: have abandoned the Republican Party. I'm going to try to

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Speaker 2: start a third party. I was trying to decide whether

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Speaker 2: to call them Angratarians us Angritarians, enough is enough ocrats

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Speaker 2: or f Yolikans, which seems to be the crowd favorite

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Speaker 2: shirt f yawlickans anyway, and I'll explain why and improve

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Speaker 2: my point next segment, and then something I'm really excited

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Speaker 2: about for our four. And you might not get our four,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, you can grab it later follow us wherever

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Speaker 2: you get podcasts Armstrong and Getty on demand. But Jack,

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Speaker 2: when we have through the years discussed becoming a cryptocurrency zillionaire, okay,

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Speaker 2: And the only way you can get access to your

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Speaker 2: account is with your fingerprint. And do you remember we

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Speaker 2: predicted what would start happening if bad people really wanted

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Speaker 2: your account. It's happening. Oh really, cryptocurrency.

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Speaker 1: The home run hitters are now running, hiding for their lives.

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Speaker 2: Keep your hands in your pockets. Yeah, i'd say, wow,

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Speaker 2: holy Yeah. So anyway, that crazy story hour four.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and probably a Diddy trial update too, So stick

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Speaker 1: around strong.

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Speaker 4: And the middle class is about the same as it

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Speaker 4: was seventy years ago. The one segment of our economy

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Speaker 4: that has grown is those making over one hundred thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars a year, and that has tripled, so most of

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Speaker 4: the middle class. If the middle class shrunk at all,

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Speaker 4: actually went to an upper class. If you say upper

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Speaker 4: class begins at one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So most of this is just fallacy.

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Speaker 4: We have gotten rich, rich, rich off of trade all Americans,

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Speaker 4: and it is lifting all boats, and we are richer

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Speaker 4: than we have ever been in any time in our history.

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Speaker 4: But it's not easy to convince people of that because

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Speaker 4: there are short term problems where you have inflation, like

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Speaker 4: during the last four years, where the middle class actually

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Speaker 4: did lose purchasing.

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Speaker 2: Power and did get poor.

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Speaker 1: Rand Paul yesterday talking about both about the Taraf war

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Speaker 1: and the big beautiful Bill that's going through. He's, of course,

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Speaker 1: as a Senator, not going to be a fan of

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Speaker 1: anything that increases the.

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Speaker 2: Debt, right right, So, and before we get to that,

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Speaker 2: just one final note on the Biden cancer thing. I

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Speaker 2: was just reading a well known cancer doctor saying it

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Speaker 2: is inconceivable that that diagnosis managed to go undetected for

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Speaker 2: so long, given his medical care and the state of medicine.

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Speaker 1: He said, it's impossible. So anyway, the other line, back

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Speaker 1: to the Big Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 2: I have announced my departure not only from the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party but all politics. I've given up, thrown up my hands.

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Speaker 2: I will be moving to Uruguay or Paraguay. I can

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Speaker 2: never remember which one, y right, because I have forgotten. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: because I've given up. But I found this very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Part of my despair is that the Republican Party has

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Speaker 2: abandoned any pretense at taming the budget, reducing the deficit,

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Speaker 2: reducing the debt in wildly out of control entitlement programs.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, I've got no home. I'm a

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Speaker 2: homeless man. I have no port in which to pull

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Speaker 2: my little boat to safety. But I found this really,

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Speaker 2: really interesting, and this is the reason why you know

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Speaker 2: you ought to be on my side. The Trump administration

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Speaker 2: recently promised that it will not cut Social Security, Medicare,

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Speaker 2: or Medicaid benefits. Now I'm going to quote Phil.

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Speaker 1: Graham, the great philgram Well I was quoting last week,

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Speaker 1: fiscal conservative slash sane guy of the past. Anyway, the

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Speaker 1: determination not to reform retirement benefit entitlements is politically understandable

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Speaker 1: third rail blah blah blah. But there is no reason

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Speaker 1: to include Medicaid, the nation's most abused welfare program, in

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Speaker 1: that pledge means tested welfare or welfare tied to a

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Speaker 1: person's income level. Or means is the main driver of

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Speaker 1: the budget deficit. It is not Social Security, which is

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Speaker 1: almost ninety percent self funded by its dedicated payroll taxes

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Speaker 1: ninety percent self funded, or Medicare, which is fifty percent

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Speaker 1: funded by premiums and payroll taxes. Spending on Medicaid IRS,

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Speaker 1: cash welfare payments, and supplemental the SNAP program food stamps

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Speaker 1: has grown in inflation adjusted dollars. Those three things.

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Speaker 2: Spending un Medicaid, cash welfare payments that are fundable tax credits,

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Speaker 2: and SNAP have grown inflation adjusted by six hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy one percent, fourteen hundred and sixty three percent, and

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Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety percent, respectively since nineteen ninety. By contrast,

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Speaker 2: total real Medicare, social Security, and Defense expenditures have grown

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Speaker 2: by three hundred and eighty, three hundred and eighty six

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Speaker 2: percent and thirty eight percent respectively. Medicaid numbers, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: are actually meta dead absorbs seven times as much general

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Speaker 2: revenue as Social Security, more than Social Security and Medicare combined.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: I know nobody's talking about this.

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Speaker 1: Medicaid is this gigantic monstran's like Frankenstein If it was

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Speaker 1: the side of Godzilla, you know, just stomping across the countryside,

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Speaker 1: crushing entire villages.

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Speaker 2: So when we talk.

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Speaker 1: About people, you know, able bodied people leeching off us taxpayers,

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Speaker 1: this is the program where they're doing a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: Correct, yeah, correct, And it has to do and you know,

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Speaker 2: part of me wishes we had time. Part of me

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Speaker 2: is glad that we don't to explain the bizarre states

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Speaker 2: intentionally tax hospitals and doctors so then they can spend more.

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Speaker 2: Then they can build the federal government more for Medicaid.

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Speaker 2: Then the federal government gives them more money for Medicaid,

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Speaker 2: which they didn't give back to the doctors and hospitals.

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Speaker 1: And that stupid, stupid federal taxpayer pays for all of it.

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Speaker 1: It's just this giant scam slash scheme. We actually have

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Speaker 1: the great Craig gottwals On tomorrow to probably explain some

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah he did. Yeah, he's a perfect guy to

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Speaker 2: ask about this. But it all has to do with

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Speaker 2: Obamacare and the Medicaid expansion. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 1: And a lot of red states said no, we don't

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Speaker 1: want this money, and they were.

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Speaker 2: Criticized, how dare you deny medical care to pay, and

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Speaker 2: the Blue States accepted it well. Now, as has been

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Speaker 2: discussed at least somewhat lately, federal taxpayers pay for ninety

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Speaker 2: percent of the bills of healthy, working age men who

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Speaker 2: get medicaid, poor pregnant ladies get I think it's a third.

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Speaker 2: It's so perverse and upside down. One final point, and

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Speaker 2: this is actually the main point of Phil Graham's article,

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Speaker 2: which I found really interesting. The title is the Census

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Speaker 2: defines the poverty rate up and fact. This is something

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Speaker 2: you have hit many times through the years. But during

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Speaker 2: the War on Poverty, the government adopted a common sense

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Speaker 2: definition of poverty having resources that are not enough to

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Speaker 2: meet basic needs. The problem is they didn't scale a

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Speaker 2: lot of this to inflation. Some of it they did,

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Speaker 2: but they've begun not counting government transfers. Eighty eight percent

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Speaker 2: of government transfers that poor quote unquote poor people get

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Speaker 2: are not counted. When you ask, all, right, is this

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Speaker 2: person poor? Do they need more stuff, more aid? That

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Speaker 2: sort of thing, they pretend that all the rest of

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Speaker 2: the government aid hadn't happened.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, if you're living on using my finger quotes

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Speaker 1: living on twenty eight thousand dollars a year. Somehow they

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Speaker 1: only count that for political purposes. When they're making arguments,

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Speaker 1: they don't count They maybe another eighty thousand dollars you

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Speaker 1: might be getting in all kinds of transfer payments, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of different stuff, housing subsidies, food help, medical help,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff doesn't count and.

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Speaker 2: Adjusted for inflation.

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Speaker 1: Now those classified as poor have almost twenty times the

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Speaker 1: purchasing power they had when the War on Poverty began,

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Speaker 1: yet they're still called poor people for the purposes of

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Speaker 1: growing these programs. Yeah, we have talked about this perio

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Speaker 1: is that needs to be straightened out. That would be

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Speaker 1: a huge change in our politics. We could let more

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Speaker 1: people know that. If you missed a segment in the

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Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and Getty