1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: the Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: and we got plenty four years. We get ready for 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Last saw them twenty nineteen, beat 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: them to win the AFC South. Twenty fifteen, we saw 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: him the Energy Stadium. We broke a losing streak. I 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: think it was the first win of the year. Twenty 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: fifteen saw him twenty eleven beat them, Then Albert Haynesworth 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: broke the foot of Matt Schaub or Liz Frank or 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: whatever it was. And then two thousand and seven Texans 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: beat the Bucks. So Texas got a four game winning 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: streak against the Bucks. 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Looking to make it five on Sunday. 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: But most importantly, they're going to make it win number 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: four for the season. 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Which is most important. 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: Get back to five hundred against team that's lost three 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: and one three in a row. It's gonna be a 20 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: tough ball game, a lot of desperation, I would think 21 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: on both sides. Texans do now want to fall three 22 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: and five, and obviously the Bucks do not want to 23 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: lose a fourth in a row. 24 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk. 25 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: A lot about the game, the bucks, everything else in between. 26 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: So we've got Nick Cassario's gonna join us in just 27 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: a second. 28 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: Here. 29 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: We got Laramie Tunsel doing a deep slant this week, 30 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: and it's a special one. You'll find out why that 31 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: is a little bit later in the show. 32 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: We also have got. 33 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: Mike Quinn, Texans OG's NDCLUDE does a great job with 34 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: that podcast, and Mike the Mighty Quinn will stop by 35 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: for that. 36 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: We got a little in the lab. 37 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: We'll break down injury reports, a little bit lengthy on 38 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: the Texans side. It's some bad news on the Buccaneers side. 39 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: Good for them, bad for the Texans. But we'll get 40 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: that in a little bit. But we kick off each 41 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: and every Wednesday show with Executive vice President Football Opson 42 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: GM Nick Caserio. 43 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: All Right, we welcome into the Hyundai Texans Radio studio 44 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: Executive vice President and general Manager Nick Cassario. 45 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: Nick, good to see him. 46 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: I know you're coming off the loss to Carolina, but 47 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: time waits for no one in the NFL. It's right 48 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: back into game week with Tampa Bay. But let's reflect 49 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: on what happened at Carolina. So close yet so far. 50 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say in some respects a little bit 51 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 6: like the Atlanta game, kind of had our opportunities. Came 52 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 6: down to really the last play of the game with 53 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 6: a kick, but there were a number of plays during 54 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 6: the course of the game that potentially could have impacted 55 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 6: the outcome. So say, give Carolina credit. They made a 56 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 6: few more plays than we did. In the end, we 57 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 6: had our opportunities, you know, probably didn't capitalize as much 58 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 6: as we either wanted to or needed to, and in 59 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: the end kind of came up a little bit short there. 60 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 6: And to your point, I mean, all we can do 61 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 6: is sort of go back through the game, figure out 62 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 6: some of the eras maybe we can clean up and improve, 63 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 6: improve our execution, and focus on the details and then 64 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 6: get ready for a pretty good team that we're going 65 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 6: to see here on Sunday in Tampa Bay. 66 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: Nick, there have been a lot of noise about, oh, 67 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: the Texans aren't getting sacks, but the pressure had been there. 68 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: There have been guys getting to the quarterback. Well, Sunday, 69 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: you got six sacks and probably could add another couple 70 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: of more when you grab a face mask on, and 71 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: probably could have got another one later in the game, 72 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: it could have been seven or eight in your estimation. 73 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: What have you seen from the pass rush group because 74 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: it kind of spread the wealth. JGD a couple of them, 75 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: Leak had a couple of Denzel out a half. 76 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: What's kind of working in the past rush the other day? 77 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean sacks sometimes come in bunches. I think, really, 78 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 6: what you're trying to do, see how much you can 79 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 6: impact the quarterback on a week to week basis. Say 80 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 6: that game was a little bit more emblematic of how 81 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 6: you want the rush to be coordinated. Really, sacks, they're 82 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 6: an individual stat, but they're really a team defensive stat, 83 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 6: and it's when you rush four. You have to be 84 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 6: able to rush in unison as a group. Sometimes you 85 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 6: play off one another. Sometimes how you attack the pocket 86 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 6: and attack the quarterback impacts the rush. So it's really 87 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 6: what you're trying to accomplish and just making sure that 88 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 6: everybody understands what you're trying to get done on each play. 89 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 6: So there's an individual element, but really in the end, 90 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 6: it's within the context of a team element, and you're 91 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 6: talking about a group rushing a quarterback with the right lanes, 92 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 6: with the right integrity, with the right discipline and say 93 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 6: a couple of the sacks a result of we're able 94 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 6: to get good pressure off the edge, force the quarterback 95 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: up in the pocket, and then we were in position 96 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: because you know, we were in the right gap in 97 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: the right lane to get. 98 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: The quarterback on the ground. 99 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 6: So the more we continue to work together and understand 100 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 6: what we need to do as a group, then you 101 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 6: know the sacks will come. And you know, both Matt 102 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: and Demiko have talked about really it's not about the sacks. 103 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: I think everybody wants to get caught up in the 104 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 6: numbers and the actual statistics, but you just won't really 105 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 6: want to be able to impact the quarterback in a 106 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 6: positive way from a defensive perspective. 107 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: And Demiko has said he needs to take the ball away. 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 4: He wants the Texans to be a ball hawking team. 109 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: You didn't get that against the Carolina Panthers. What does 110 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: that take overall that mentality, that ethic to get the 111 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: ball away consistently. 112 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's a great question. 113 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: It's really a thought process and a mindset and just 114 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 6: having the ball kind of on your mind as much 115 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 6: as possible. And there's ways that you can coach it. 116 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 6: The ways you can technique it. How you attack the runner, 117 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 6: how you attack the ball carrier, aiming point, being in 118 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 6: position dition. I would say interceptions a big part of them, 119 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 6: or reading the quarterback and having eyes on the quarterback, 120 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 6: or understanding the overall picture of the play and putting 121 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: yourself in a position, whether it's formation recognition, split recognition. 122 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 6: All right, this looks similar to a concept that they've run. 123 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 6: It's a repeat concept that comes up during the course 124 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 6: of the game. So there's no one definitive I would 125 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: say item. It's usually a combination of things, but you 126 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 6: could certainly teach it, coach it. There's certain techniques that 127 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 6: are involved, and I think everybody talks about the football, 128 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 6: but you actually do it in practice and then really, 129 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 6: if you practice something, then you hope that it carries 130 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: over into the game. And really, in the end, I 131 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 6: would say, there's only one turnover in the game, not 132 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 6: saying it was necessarily a different in the game, but 133 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 6: it certainly had an impact in the outcome of the 134 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 6: game and the teams that take care of the football. 135 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 6: The correlation between winning and losing is fairly high. 136 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: I know you have history with six round picks and 137 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: a good one at that, But typically six round picks 138 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: don't normally find a way on to a roster, especially 139 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: a starter, especially as a rookie. But Jared Patterson have 140 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 2: been giving you some good time at center. 141 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 7: Nick. 142 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: What I know he's gonna be out for a while. 143 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't know for how long. I don't get any 144 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: any of that. I just know we're gonna miss him 145 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: in a little bit. But what had you seen from 146 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: jareded thus far? And how much are we gonna miss him? 147 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 8: Yeah? 148 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 6: No, JP did a great job if he really played 149 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 6: a little bit. He played both guard and center. Notre 150 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 6: Dame a little bit more guard. But when you have 151 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 6: those inside players, you're kind of seeing if they can 152 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 6: handle all three inside spots because trying to build a 153 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 6: depth of your team. But I mean very he was 154 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 6: an experienced player, very instinctive player, very smart. Playing center 155 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 6: is really as much about intelligence as anything else, because 156 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 6: there's so many things to sort out. Is it an 157 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 6: even front? It was an odd space front. Are they overloaded? Okay, 158 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 6: where's the mic identification? There's so many things that you 159 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 6: have to go through in a short period of time. 160 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 6: A really smart kid, very diligent, had a good playing style, 161 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 6: it wasn't too big for him. He was able to 162 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 6: step in and until he was injured that play. I 163 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 6: mean he'd been out there essentially for every all the snap, 164 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 6: one hundred percent of the snap. So it's unfortunate, you know. 165 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 6: I think we feel good about the depth that we 166 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 6: have behind JP. We have a number of players that 167 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: worked at center and guarded training camp. So we'll go 168 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 6: through the week and kind of see what's the best 169 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 6: option for us going into the game this week. 170 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: All right, this week's Running game update, you ran for 171 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten yards. I know you still want more. 172 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: It almost didn't feel like one hundred and ten in 173 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: some ways. You had thirty carries in the game. What 174 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: about the update on the running game? There was some 175 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: progress there overall relative to earlier in the season. 176 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 5: But I know you want to see more. 177 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we had some positive runs, no question 178 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 6: about it, and then we mixed in you know, CJ 179 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 6: had to scramble there, you know which account it counts 180 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 6: towards your your running game, and then we had a 181 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 6: couple of reverses with Tank and some of those plays. 182 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 6: But overall, I would say fairly efficient, you know, still 183 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: probably left some yards on the field there a little bit, 184 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 6: but generally we're going to the right spot. There's a 185 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 6: couple of plays where they had a good call against 186 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 6: the particular run, even on the longer run DP made. 187 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 6: I mean, he did all of a job in a 188 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: backfield making burns miss. So I think sometimes run game's 189 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 6: about value more than anything else, and you just want 190 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 6: to have more positive than negative runs and say for 191 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 6: the most part that we did that. So it certainly 192 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 6: be a big challenge this week against Tampa. I'd say 193 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 6: the strength of their defense is really along the front. 194 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 9: Nick. 195 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: We'll get to Tampa in a second, but I don't 196 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: know how far we've got into this conversation without speaking 197 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: of Camp Johnston and the weapon. And I think teams 198 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: still go to punter and sometimes it's a necessary evil, 199 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: But I know what it's spending years in New England 200 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: with Coach Belichick, that was a big deal for him. 201 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: He'd tell us straight eight minutes on a punt, and 202 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: you knew special teams meant a lot. So Camp Johnston 203 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: comes here and you sign him and you bring him here, 204 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: and it feels like this third year he's even even 205 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: bigger weapon than he was the first two years that 206 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: he was here. He's been even better in the games. 207 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Is a seventy four yard punt the longest in Texans history. 208 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: How valuable is it to have him punting the football 209 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: and what does that meant to the team thus far? 210 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, the kicking game in the ends about field positions. 211 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 6: The more you can affect the field position and control 212 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 6: field position, it's gonna hopefully help your overall team's going 213 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: to help you defensively and offensively about you know where 214 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 6: the opponent starts and then if you get the ball back. 215 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 6: So there was a couple of instances there where we 216 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: were able to flip the field, control field position. But 217 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 6: you know, when we signed Cam three years ago, I mean, 218 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 6: he was a talented player, had an explosive leg at times, 219 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 6: you know, was a little bit inconsistent. But I'd say 220 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 6: since he's come back here from the injury, I mean, 221 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 6: he's really helped our team and we've been able to 222 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 6: cover as well, even on some of the longer punts. 223 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 6: So the interiors sometimes of the coverage those always it's 224 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 6: a little bit harder, but that's where you have to 225 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: be able to win in the perimeter. 226 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Win a gunner. 227 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 6: I mean, Kadar and D'Angelo have given us some good 228 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 6: plays t t when he's been out there, So it's 229 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 6: similar to offensive defense. Everything's kind of tied together. Like 230 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 6: you have a good punter who can flip the field, 231 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: you got to be able to cover right, so you 232 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 6: have to be able to get down the field, and 233 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 6: we were able to limit the yards you know, after 234 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 6: the catch down the returns made a number of tackles 235 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 6: either at the spot of the catch or a few 236 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 6: yards after. So we put a lot of emphasis in 237 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 6: the kicking take a lot of pride in that area. 238 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 6: It's a huge part of the game. I mean, it's 239 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 6: the third of the game, so you have to allocate 240 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 6: time and resources, and if you want to be good 241 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 6: in the kicking game, you hopefully have good players that 242 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 6: reinforce that. And you know, Cam's done a good job. 243 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 6: And I think one of the things that gets a 244 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 6: little bit on your soul sometimes too is a holding. 245 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: So he's a very good holder. 246 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: Which I'd say gives the long snapper and the kicker comfort. 247 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 6: So you know, Cam's done a good job and there's 248 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 6: a lot of respect of everybody in the building. 249 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: Nick, you talked about running game production, passing game production. 250 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: We had the knockdowns of the passes, four of those 251 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: in the game, and it just wasn't what we were 252 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: noticing in previous weeks. But there were some moments. So 253 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: what are you seeing there and what needs to be 254 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: done moving forward? 255 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Caroline did a good job. They're able 256 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 6: to get their hands in the passing it in a 257 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 6: little bit. I think some of those by design the 258 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 6: kind of the way they were rushing a quarterback. So 259 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 6: those are gonna happen. It's gonna happen. It's got to 260 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 6: try to find a throwing lanes and you know, it's 261 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 6: continue to try to find positive plays, try to find 262 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 6: some explosive plays because it helps you. It's gonna help 263 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 6: you move the football. So I think we have a 264 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: lot of confidence in the players that are involved in 265 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 6: that phase, a lot of confidence in the passing game 266 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 6: in general. So you know, hopefully we can continue, you know, 267 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 6: progress moving forward here in that phase. You know, have 268 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 6: we have explosive players, you know, we have good players 269 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 6: in that area, have a good quarterback, so hopefully we 270 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 6: can you know, string together some positive plays here against 271 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 6: that would say, a pretty good pass defense. Yeah, we're 272 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 6: gonna see this weekend. 273 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Carolina behind us. We're greed. 274 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Caroline's behind us. Got Tampa Bay. Uh taking on the Buccaneers. 275 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: A lot of talented dudes. We're of the biggest and 276 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: most athletic dudes you ever going to see. Didn't play 277 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: last week for the Veya. I would imagine you don't 278 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: play this week against us kind of problems do the 279 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers provide? 280 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Nick, we's got a report in Tampa Bay. 281 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's probably a good place to start. 282 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Todd really is. I mean he's 283 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 6: the head coach, but he's also the defensive play caller, 284 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 6: so he's very immersed. And Todd has a very aggressive 285 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 6: style of football. It makes your work on every play. 286 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 6: They don't give up a lot of big plays. They're 287 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 6: very I would say, you know, not a pressure team, 288 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 6: but they're a pressure team, like they're gonna blitz. 289 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys are gonna blitz. 290 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 6: And i'd say Via not playing against Buffalo I think 291 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 6: was a big part of the game. I mean his size, 292 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 6: his strength, and then you combine that with his athleticism. 293 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: I mean it's a little bit like we talked about 294 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: with Grover. I mean, he's he's a tremendous factor on 295 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 6: the inside part there, so he's the key to the front. 296 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 6: I mean, Kansi's you know, giving him some good snaps 297 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 6: here in a pass rush since he's been on a field, 298 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 6: you know, two good edge players and try On and 299 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 6: Shaq Barrett and Shack's been doing it here, you know, 300 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 6: for a long time. And then I'd say as a 301 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 6: tandem you know, White and David, I mean, to a 302 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 6: better linebacker groups, to the better linebackers we're gonna see 303 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 6: in Unison this season. 304 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: So very athletic. 305 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 6: I mean, LaMonte feels like he's been playing forever, but 306 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 6: he's still I mean, I mean he's looking at the 307 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 6: other day. I'm almost like, I don't know, twelve hundred 308 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 6: snaps over the court, some ridiculous amount of snaps, one 309 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 6: hundred tackles, like nine of ten years, so instinctive, fast 310 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 6: aware around the ball. Winfield has done a really good 311 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 6: job of getting a ball all off of people. He's 312 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 6: when he's down there line of scrimmage, he's a factor 313 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 6: as a blitzer. And it's two good you know corners 314 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 6: and Dean and Davis long corners, and there again she 315 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 6: getting a lot of production out of easing and drafted 316 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 6: rookie as their nickel, So they cause a lot of havoc. 317 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 6: They present a lot of problems on the defensive side 318 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: of the ball. They're the top amongst the top red 319 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: area teams in the league, so points at a premium, 320 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 6: so to make you earn it once you get the 321 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 6: ball into the red area. 322 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Then offensively, i mean, Baker's done a good job for them. 323 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean he's really come in. 324 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 6: He played well, you know, early in the years, athletic guy, 325 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 6: big strong arm, kind of has a makeup play mentality. 326 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 6: He's done a good job for their offense, he really has. 327 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: And then Mike's a problem on the perimeter. I think 328 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 6: Godwin is a versatile I would say, kind of do 329 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 6: everything kind of player who's key in some of the 330 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 6: critical situations. And they're playing someone, you know, some rookies here, 331 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 6: and Tompkins has giving him some plays in the kicking game. 332 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 6: Pretty good offensive line, and i'd say White has probably 333 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 6: been their most productive running back. Good in a kicking game. 334 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 6: Speaking of the kicking game, they have a good punter 335 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 6: as well, so good punter I'm a good kicker, so 336 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 6: certainly can present some challenges. I would say, similar to 337 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 6: maybe some of the things that we've seen of the 338 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 6: last few weeks from Carolina, New Orleans, even going back 339 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: to Atlanta. 340 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: So you know, certainly have a work cutout for us 341 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: against a good team. 342 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: All Right, The make a play mentality, I want you 343 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: to get into that because it doesn't only apply to quarterbacks, right, 344 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: And it's the old bum Philips quote, maybe two kinds 345 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: of players aren't worth it. One that only does what 346 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: he's told, one that never does what he's told. You 347 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: kind of need guys to sort of take it upon 348 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: themselves sometimes, Is that it or part of it? 349 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 350 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 6: I mean, ultimately it's a player's game, so just trying 351 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: to figure out a way to either keep a play 352 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: alive or make a player. And I think one of 353 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 6: the things that Baker does he has a good feel 354 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: and maneuver. He maneuvers himself out of the pocket and 355 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 6: kind of keep plays alive and he can make plays 356 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 6: with his feet. So I think sometimes it's just trying 357 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 6: to figure out a way to keep a play alive 358 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 6: and trying to make a positive play. You know, you 359 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 6: want to make sure with that mindset, you're not like 360 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 6: over aggressive. You know, you want to make sure it's 361 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 6: within the context of what you're trying to accomplish offensively. 362 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 6: So so there's several players like that. Ultimately, it's about 363 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: making plays and it's about your playmakers, whomever they are, 364 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 6: so whether it's a quarterback, whether it's an offensive skill position. 365 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 6: So I would say he's certainly emblematic of that, and 366 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 6: there are enough of examples of that. If you don't 367 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 6: account for him kind of his ability to keep plays 368 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: alive and keep him in the pocket, then extending plays 369 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 6: taxes the coverage, which. 370 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Could open up, you know, some other things. So I 371 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: would say that's probably where it falls more than anything else. 372 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: Nick. 373 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't want you to get into a game 374 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: plan anything like that, and that's not really what I'm 375 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: asking here. But I mentioned vidavea earlier, and we've seen 376 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: over the years what that guy can do. And I 377 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: would imagine as you go into a game, you're like, 378 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: we got to block fifty, Like we have to block fifty, 379 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: and there might be some things that you do to 380 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: account for a guy that can wreck the inside if 381 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: he's not able to play, How does that change the 382 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: way you go about, you know, protecting or blocking in 383 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: the run game against the guy like that. 384 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: If you know he he's there, these are some things 385 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: you do. 386 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: But if he's not there, does that change significantly how 387 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: you might go about things. 388 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: No, that's a good question. 389 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 6: I think each week you go into it and figure 390 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 6: out our what are the things that we need to 391 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 6: do in order to have success Offensively? Who do we 392 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 6: have to account for? Who are the players that potentially 393 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 6: could be factors, And he's at the top of the list. 394 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 6: If he doesn't play, it's not necessarily going to change 395 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 6: how they play Defensively, They're still going to have the 396 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 6: front structure, They're still going to have the same calls. 397 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 6: Maybe there's some things in a running game that maybe 398 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 6: you didn't think you would be able to use, that 399 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 6: you might be able to incorporate. So some of this 400 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 6: a little bit of cat and mouse. You know, if 401 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: he is playing, all right, there's certain things that you're 402 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 6: probably going to want to use. Other things maybe not 403 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 6: as effective. Let's try something else. So a lot of 404 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: his understanding the personnel, how they use them, and if 405 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 6: a player is going to impact the game, it's easier 406 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 6: said than done. 407 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to do this. Okay, well how are 408 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: we going to do it? How are we going to 409 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: account for it? 410 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 6: So again, you try to attack weaknesses and you know, 411 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 6: take We got to try to take away their strengths. 412 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 6: So the expectation is you have to plan as if 413 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 6: he's going to play, and if he doesn't play, then 414 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 6: you can modify it just as you go. 415 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about this because I'm watching 416 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: the Lions on Monday Night football. Not specific to them, Nick, 417 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: but you do a lot of scouting of players and offense, defense, 418 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: What about franchises, whether they be on the rise or 419 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: in decline, and the analytics that go into that sort 420 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: of thing. 421 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 5: What makes this team a winning team? 422 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: And is there some sort of intangible or other measurable 423 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: that we're not seeing, or what makes this team a 424 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: team that's not doing as well lately? 425 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 5: How much do you get into that sort of stuff. 426 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no magic formula. 427 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 9: It's hard. 428 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: I think there was a stat I was reading the 429 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: other day. 430 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: I don't know, seventy percent of the game so far 431 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 6: in the league, seventy seventy five percent. I've been one 432 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 6: score games going into the fourth quarter. I mean, it's 433 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 6: a ridiculous stat So essentially what it says is put 434 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 6: yourself in a position when the fourth quarter you have 435 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: an opportunity to win the game and you can either 436 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 6: make the winning plays or you don't. And I would 437 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 6: say we've been kind of on the other end of 438 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 6: that spectrum, you know, in a couple of the games here, right, Look, 439 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 6: we talked about going back to Carolina, going back to Atlanta. 440 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: So there's no necessarily magic formula. 441 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 6: It's about getting good players with the right mindset and 442 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 6: the right mentality, having a good coaching staff, and then 443 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 6: everybody understanding what you're trying to accomplish, and then just 444 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 6: doing everything you can during the course of the week 445 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 6: to prepare forever that opponent is you can put the 446 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 6: best product on the field and then wipe this sleigh 447 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 6: clean and going on to the next thing. So i'd 448 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 6: linking to your question mark, there's like analytics or anything specific. 449 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 6: It's it's just over time, you want to try to 450 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 6: have more things go in your favor than go against. 451 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 6: So I wouldn't say there's anything you know, revolutionary, it's 452 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 6: just good players, good coaches that play well in critical situations. 453 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: I think I know the answer this question, but I'm 454 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: asking anyways because I like to talk about it. Any 455 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: kind of trade deadline, draft night, any of those. Whenever 456 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: I see you on those days, I think, oh, man, 457 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: he's got his mind's got racing. Man, it's draft night, 458 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: or it's trade deadline, and yet even killed the whole 459 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: time because you know, your preparation gets you where you 460 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: want to go. 461 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: But today is the trade deadline. 462 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably get calls or probably things that happen, 463 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: but still seem pretty calm about it. How do you 464 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: kind of feel with something like the trade deadline kind 465 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: of upon you, like we talk about it like I mean, 466 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: like is our phone ringing? 467 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 7: What's going on? 468 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: And you just kind of go about it and do 469 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: your job. 470 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it goes back to it's really about your preparation. 471 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 6: So when the actual day arrives, it's whatever's going to happen. 472 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: Typically there's a build up and the work has been 473 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 6: done behind the scenes. So once you get to that 474 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 6: actual day, you're either prepared to do something or you're not. 475 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: Or if something comes to fruition, so be it. If 476 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 6: it doesn't, then you know, you just keep moving forward 477 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 6: to the next transaction. So we're gonna have multiple transactions 478 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 6: here this week just because of where we are as 479 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 6: a team. So it's you're managing the team day to day. 480 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 6: I think it's kind of like the draft and beginning 481 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 6: of free agency. There's certain days on the calendar that 482 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 6: are circled where I'd say people have a more heightened 483 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 6: awareness or everything is driven towards thaticular day from our perspective, 484 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 6: and it's really just another day on the calendar. So 485 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: in any end, you just try to make good decisions 486 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 6: for the football team on a consistent basis. That's the 487 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 6: overarching theme and goal, all right. 488 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: I mean I knew the answer. 489 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: I was. 490 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: Last week we asked you about Halloween. We won't do 491 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: that again, thank god, as we as we entered November 492 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: and I. 493 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 6: Have a Halloween updates, so I actually have to notice 494 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: when I got home last night, we had a jar 495 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 6: of candy corn. Unbeknownst to LIKE that that was going 496 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 6: to be there, so I didn't have anybody it was there, 497 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 6: So there. I know that was a huge topic of 498 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 6: discussion last week. 499 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: It was overall candy corn. Candy corn is like Democrats Republicans. 500 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: For some reason, not that extreme wait till Thanksgiving and 501 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: we knocked foods off the table in trades and such. 502 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 4: But all right, I wanted to power rank the holidays 503 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: one two three because as we entered November, we're into 504 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving month and then Christmas and all of it. So one, 505 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 4: two three, power ranked the holidays. 506 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 6: Nick, I would a Thanksgiving, probably one Christmas, two Christmas 507 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 6: in Easter, I would say two. There's definitely you know, 508 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 6: religious surrounded around those holidays. 509 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 4: So let's say they're tied for a second. You can 510 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: squeeze it a third third, uh Arbor Day, Valentine's Day, 511 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: Valentine Good, not gonna be Halloween. 512 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: Halloween is on a list of ten, is twentieth. I'm 513 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: not a big Halloween. Got Valentine. 514 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 5: Kids love it. That's which. 515 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: Also my wife appreciates that. Yeah, you're good. My wife 516 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: can't stand Valentine's Day, which is the greatest thing for me. 517 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: I love it. 518 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: I think it's great. 519 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 5: That's it. 520 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: Next, thanks a lot for joining us, Good luck, thanks fellas. 521 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: All right, great stuff there from Nick Cassario. 522 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: Of course, talking Halloween with him is kind of like 523 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: talking about vegetables and things like that with me, Like 524 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: it's just you know, it's just it's not gonna happen 525 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: too much. But we've come to grips for that. Mark 526 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday, No Damien Pierce. 527 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: Now we don't know whatever Damien's dealing with, whether it's 528 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: going to be an issue or not. 529 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: They did add JJ Taylor to the practice squad this 530 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: weekend or this week uh Lasita Smith also acted or 531 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: added to the practice squad. And we've seen teams use 532 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: the practice squad as hey, get yourself ready for a 533 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: week or so, and then when you're ready, we'll bring 534 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: you up to the big squad, the fifty three NS roster. 535 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: But let's say that the Texans have to go into 536 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: this game without Damian Pierce, and it's Devin Singletary, Mike Boone, 537 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: it's kind of your gut tell you about Yeah, I'm 538 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: okay with that. Oh boy, really gonna with Damien? Kind 539 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: of one of your feelings if that's the case. If 540 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: Damien is unable to go. Now I'm not speaking on 541 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, but I know he got banged. 542 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: Up a little bit. 543 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: Just see him walk off the field against Carolina. But 544 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: not sure what that's gonna mean. But just your gut reaction. 545 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: If that's kind of that's got to come to fruition. Well, 546 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm glad they have time to prepare. 547 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: It's not in the middle of a game where you 548 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: know he can run everything you run with Singletary right, 549 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: and he knows the offense. Obviously he gets roughly half 550 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: the carries last couple of games. But if you have 551 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: a full week to prepare, you can add Mike Boone 552 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: Wrinkles in there. We know they've been running the ball 553 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: with Tank Dell a little bit too. I don't know 554 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: if they feel great about that or not heading into 555 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: this one. 556 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 9: We'll see. 557 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: But the fact that you can prepare with Boone and 558 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: Singletary and whoever else you want to add to the mix, 559 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: that's good. I mean, they gave beck a couple of 560 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: carries in the last game, one of them for a touchdown. 561 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: So they'll be ready to go. How effective will it be? 562 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: You missed that obviously big blast that Damian Pierce gives you. 563 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 4: We all know it's no secret the running game hasn't 564 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: gone as well as they wanted to. They ran for 565 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten last week. It didn't feel like 566 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten couple of the pops by Singletary 567 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: and Pierce required great individual moves. 568 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 5: They've got to get better, Johnny. 569 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of this, A lot of the 570 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: answer to your question depends on how well are they 571 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: going to play the offensive line. They have to deal 572 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 4: with Vitevea and company up front. This is not going 573 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: to be easy. Talk to Gene Heck Deckerhoff about this 574 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: and you'll hear from him, and he says the way 575 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 4: he's talking about the Buccaneers, but their standards are very 576 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: high recent years. They're not doing a good job on 577 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: defense at all, but you look at the point totals 578 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: very satisfactory. They're top seven in the league right now. 579 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: So I don't know what to make of it. I 580 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: just know they're tough and the Texans have to play 581 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: better on offense. 582 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the one of their aspects 583 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: that complicates it, I guess, is the fact that Brevin 584 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: Jordan's been hurt and we didn't get a chance to 585 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: se him against Carolina and the team. Quatoriano got hurt, 586 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 2: which I got to notice during the game of tiguing 587 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: questionable and I want to say it was an ankle, 588 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: but I don't want to call for sure, but we 589 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: just got to a point where, you know, we didn't 590 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: bring it up to the broadcast because once Carolina took 591 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: over the ball the last six minutes of the game, 592 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: well Carolina took over the ball until the end of the. 593 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: Game from that point. So Texas at Eric Sabert. 594 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Now you're a Texans fan, Texans history tells you Week two. 595 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: Week two, we went Denver. Yeah, we two. 596 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: We went to Denver last year and the only touchdown 597 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: of that game scored by stew was Texan Eric Saubert, 598 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: who caught it for the Denver Broncos. So he's got 599 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: some good receiving acumen, but he's got to be able 600 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: to do something a blocking game, because Tigan did have 601 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: some struggles against Carolina, but Teagan was blocking I thought 602 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: pretty well in the run game. So I'm curious when 603 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: you throw that into the mix as well. Now, no, 604 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Teagan Brevin still banged up a little bit. You can 605 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: always use Beck in a number of different ways, so 606 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: you've always got that kind of X factor, if you will. 607 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: But I wonder how that kind of plays into everything. 608 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 2: On top of one other aspect when you go back 609 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: and you look at the second half drives. I think 610 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: somet'll be pointing this out on Twitter, how much the 611 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: Texans ended up running the ball on first down in 612 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: the second half versus maybe what they do now. The 613 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: Bucks like the blitz. I think CJ's shown that he 614 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: can beat the blitz. I'll be curious to see how the. 615 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Bucks do that. 616 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: But taking all of that into account now, Sobert added 617 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: instead of Teagan, I feel like it might be past 618 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: first on Sunday, which I'm okay with. I'm quite alright 619 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: with us throwing the ball first before running the ball, 620 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: and then maybe throw Asdres likes to say, throw yourself 621 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: into the running game. 622 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, throw yourself into the running game. 623 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: Flex the defense, I call it right, move them around, 624 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you hit him with hit 625 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: him with the big run by Singletary, maybe something by Boone. 626 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: How about throwing to the backs a little bit. I 627 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: think they have a lot they can do here. I mean, 628 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: as you mentioned the weapons, they have a lot of 629 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: things they can use here. No Robert Woods again in 630 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 4: all likelihood, of course, So you're looking at a situation 631 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 4: where you can spread the ball around to the different guys, 632 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: but you get a pass pro as well. Right, Singletary 633 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 4: is good at that. Maybe you keep Schultz in at times. 634 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 4: Maybe soburd factors into that. Qutriano, you know, it's funny 635 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: with him going on ir You really didn't do much 636 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: with him in the passing game, of course, and he's 637 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: kind of hard to notice sometimes, right, how much is 638 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: he in the game? How many snaps does he really play? 639 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: And look, he's not this first round draft choice type 640 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: of athlete, but he's a good athlete and you know 641 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: he can help the squads. So I want to see 642 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 4: more from him when he gets back healthy. But for 643 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: now you might be right, you might be a throw 644 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 4: first or throw more off and than that kind of team. 645 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: As I say that, Johnny, you know they want to 646 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: run it is this offense. They want to find a 647 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: way to run it. I think Singletary will be just fine. 648 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: Buffalo lived with him just fine. But Josh Allen was 649 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 4: a huge part of their running game, and that has 650 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: to get mentioned when you talk about what Singletary was 651 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: able to do on the ground as a Buffalo bill. 652 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: So we'll see I like Stroud running it on occasion, 653 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 4: but carefully he had that one nice run and then 654 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 4: he slid kind of forward, which is okay as long 655 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: as you don't get hit. 656 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 5: But can he baseball slide. I'm sure he can. 657 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because. 658 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: I've seen really athletic quarterbacks completely and totally unable to slide. 659 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: I think it's easier said than you got to lift. 660 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: You could really jam your leg if your cleat gets 661 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: caught on a slide. You have to sort of keep 662 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: your feed up and you have to work on it 663 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: in the waste to work on it where you don't 664 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 4: have to get hurt. 665 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: I mean, you could slide on those kind of slick 666 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: I've seen him out out in the service level of 667 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: guys slide. I kind of had one. Yeah, it's kind 668 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: of like a slipping slide. It's a modified one that 669 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: you can work on your You work on your sliding. 670 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: They work on sliding in training camp, not training camp, 671 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: spring training all the time. 672 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: Uh, doing that way, But. 673 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: I'd much rather see a guy go feet first. But 674 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't care as long as you get down. You 675 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: just get down and protect yourself. And some guys, sometimes 676 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: guys that can't slide may end up going one step 677 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: too far and then they get cracked. 678 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: This was a big issue with David Carr. 679 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 680 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: So for those who don't remember, Car used to run 681 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: quite a bit. In fact, during Car's time here, he 682 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: was the second leading rushing quarterback in the league behind 683 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: Michael Vick. So it was Vic then Car, top two 684 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: running quarterbacks in the league. Now he ran, I didn't 685 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: know that. Yeah, Vic ran a lot more. But Carr 686 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: could run with the ball. Car was a hell of 687 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: an ad lead could run with the ball. But he 688 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: wasn't sliding enough. He was taking hits. He took hits 689 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 4: that way. We never talk about that with Carr. We 690 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: talk about the O line and taking sacks in the 691 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: first year with the seventy six sacks and all that, 692 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: but we never talk about he took some hits running 693 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: the ball. And as a sort of I guess it 694 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: was a publicity thing. It was, and it was fun 695 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: for the media. They brought Craig Biggio to practice. Oh 696 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: and he was telling David about sliding and you know, 697 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: all right, whatever, you know, he knows how to say. 698 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: It's not it's not easy. It can be kind of difficult. 699 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: Like you watch you watch good players do it in 700 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: baseball and you're like, oh, he made that. Look he's 701 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: but some guys just can't do it, especially they're running 702 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: the ball to think. 703 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: About Ooh I got a slide. 704 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: It's just it's foreign. It's a foreign concept to them. 705 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: But as the quarterback, you better do it. 706 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 707 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know if CJ's got. 708 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: Any baseball in his background, but you would think that's 709 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: where you learn that you learned to do it or 710 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: get out of bounce. And the Texans have a guy 711 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: mark that will keep CJ. Stroud from having to slider 712 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: even get it abounds, So just leave in the pocket. 713 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: That's Laramie tunsl and he stops by for an epic 714 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: deep Slant interview with Debcity next a textas All Access. 715 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: I think it was Monday when I found out that 716 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: our Deep Slant Interview of the week was going to 717 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: be Laramie Tunsil, and I have just been so excited 718 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: ever since because I know if there's one person that 719 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: Laramie will go deep with, well, it's on our Deep 720 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: Slant interview with our good friend Deep City. 721 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: She texted me and said, Johnny, this is epic. Well 722 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: let's go. I know it is, I know, I know 723 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: it's got to be. 724 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: So let's hear Laramie tunsl with Deep City in a 725 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: Deep Slant interview with The Week. 726 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 10: It's a Deep Slant one on one presented by Exfinity 727 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 10: and joining me. Laramie Tunseels is actually my official last 728 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 10: Deep Slant. It's perfect that you're my last guest because 729 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 10: you hate. 730 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 11: Are used to. 731 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 10: You are getting used to them because this is your 732 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 10: third time sitting down with me and this off season 733 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 10: you're like talking to. 734 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 11: Pat McAfee 'or just like a regular. 735 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 10: You had the pivot, the pivot following you around. 736 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 9: I had Adam Chefter, You had Adam Scheff. I had 737 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 9: a couple. I had a couple of platforms that I did. 738 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 11: What was your favorite one? 739 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 9: I'm probably to pivot the pie and that was it 740 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 9: school about forty five minutes. They made me feel comfortable. 741 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 9: They's asked a good question, So it was move. 742 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 10: They were like you were like a superstar that day 743 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 10: because they had the whole crew. They were we were 744 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 10: trying to figure out who they were there for. We 745 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 10: obviously was there for you. But what did you like 746 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 10: about telling your story to them? You had a lot 747 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 10: of stories from it. 748 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 9: I had a lot of stories. I got a lot 749 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 9: of stories. People don't understand a lot. I have stories 750 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 9: for days. Like just asked me and I can give 751 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 9: you a story. But now they just made me feel comfortable. Yeah, 752 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 9: you know, I talked to them guys before, and you know, 753 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 9: they came in a room. They was great, They had 754 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 9: great questions, so they made it easy. 755 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 11: You like not talking about football. 756 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 10: I remember my first interview with you back in twenty nineteen, 757 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 10: right after you got traded. You did an interview right 758 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 10: off the bat, and I was told, Larry does not 759 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 10: want to talk about football, anything football, and I and 760 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 10: I and I was really hard to find stuff on 761 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 10: you because you were not out there the way that 762 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 10: you are now, Like you weren't on social media. There 763 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 10: weren't any real stories about you. I didn't even know 764 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 10: like what you were into. And I feel like since 765 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 10: twenty nineteen, you've changed so much, both on the field 766 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 10: and off the field. 767 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 11: But where do you think you have changed the most? 768 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 9: I have opened up a lot more, I can. I 769 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 9: can actually say that I was still in my shield. 770 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 9: I was trying to get over that that incident that 771 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 9: happened in twenty sixteen at the draft. I was still 772 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 9: trying to get over that. You know, I just wanted 773 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 9: to open up more, get let a lot of people 774 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 9: know who I am, and just be comfortable just doing that. 775 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 10: You know a lot of people don't know that. Okay, 776 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 10: we did that interview. Second interview was last year because 777 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 10: then you were injured. There was one year where I 778 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 10: wanted interview. You got injured last year. We sort of 779 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 10: talked about it. It was like a negotiation. I don't 780 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 10: think I've ever worked so hard to get a player 781 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 10: to an interview. We started in like camp and I 782 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 10: was like, Larry me will do an interview. Larry just 783 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 10: kept saying no, And then we negotiated like what we 784 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 10: would talk about, and then finally you said yes. And 785 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 10: then now I feel like I feel like I have 786 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 10: opened the door. Would you say that's true? You really 787 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 10: you'll go in direction? And day I opened the door. 788 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 10: Everybody's like, how did you get layering me to talk? 789 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 10: And I said, it was not easy. What about off 790 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 10: the field? How have you changed? I feel like your 791 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 10: fashions changed. 792 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 9: Fashion fashions for short chains off the field. 793 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 11: A little bit of money helps with that, a. 794 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 9: Lot of money with that, for sure, And I just 795 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 9: try to like become like this businessman you know. Yeah, 796 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 9: I have no agent, so I just try to build 797 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 9: myself up and become just like CEO of my business team, 798 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 9: you know what I mean. You know I got Divine Tree. 799 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 11: You know, I'll be trying to I want to get 800 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 11: into that. 801 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 9: Yeah about let's do it. 802 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 11: You want to talk about Divine Tree. 803 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 10: Okay, Well, let me ask you about your fashion, because 804 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 10: that's interesting that you say that you do dress a 805 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 10: little bit more CEO, Like you got like a little briefcase. 806 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 9: The briefcase were dressed up. 807 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 10: Do you remember your first year you're wearing these like 808 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 10: Gucci joggers. 809 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 9: Yes? 810 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 11: And I do you remember what? You know where I'm 811 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 11: going with this? 812 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 9: Yeah? I forgot that you comment on the comments on 813 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 9: them and. 814 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 11: You told me they were fake, and I said, don't 815 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 11: tell fake, you were we. 816 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 9: I tell everybody that because what you got right here, 817 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 9: I'll be like, oh, it's fake, you know, just. 818 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 10: Because you don't want to draw any attention. Okay, you 819 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 10: have diamonds in your teeth, Laramie, Like it's very hard. 820 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 9: To you can't see it. 821 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 11: I can't see it. It's like really really so but 822 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 11: if I smiled why did you want to do that? 823 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 9: I'll just look gift to myself, you know. 824 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 10: Okay, speaking of gifts, our producer Josh wants to buy 825 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 10: himself his first He's like dying that I'm asking you 826 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 10: this one. 827 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 11: What asked me? 828 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 10: He wants to buy himself a piece of jewelry. Doesn't 829 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 10: that own any jewelry? And he was asking me what 830 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 10: his first piece of jewelry should be. And I said, 831 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 10: I'm I think I'm gonna ask Laramie this question. For 832 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 10: a man, what should be the first piece. 833 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 9: Of jewelry that you get? Maybe like a bracelet that's 834 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 9: what he was thinking. Bracelet, bracelet, necklace, or a pinky 835 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 9: ring it? 836 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 11: I said, a pinky to have the pinky ring you take. 837 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 9: You take it, take a drink, you put the pinkiestuff. 838 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 11: With the pines. I also suggested diamonds and the teeth. 839 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 11: He didn't really see. 840 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 9: If he's ready for that, let's do it. 841 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 11: No, not first though, right way up, Maybe you should 842 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 11: get a grill. Maybe if you saw Josh, you would laugh. 843 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 10: Okay, so you want to talk about Divine Tree like 844 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 10: you you've really grown your brand a bit, and I'm 845 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 10: still trying to understand what Divine treat is. 846 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 11: It seems like it's a big umbrella that covers like 847 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 11: a lot of things. 848 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 9: Exactly what it is? 849 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 11: Okay, it's a cot. So what sort of things? What 850 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 11: sort of things go under your creative umbrella? 851 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 9: So we do a lot of things. We do sports, 852 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 9: we do music, we do personal training, can be cooking 853 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 9: and be anything you can think of. 854 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 10: It can go who was managing all these different things? 855 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 7: You are? 856 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 11: You finding people that are talented at these things. 857 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 9: And so I actually have a manager. His name is 858 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 9: la Luceani, who actually managed Divine Tree. It was his idea. 859 00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 9: So funny story, yeah, so Lalusane we went to college together. 860 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 9: He's my manager. Now we went to college together. We 861 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 9: met my freshman year at Old Miss and long story short, 862 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 9: I got drafted to Miami and he used to come down, 863 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 9: you know, come visit me, watch some games, and then 864 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 9: go back home. So I think he came down back 865 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 9: in two twenty seventeen. He came down and we in Miami. 866 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 9: So you know, we're getting ready to go out have 867 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 9: some fun, right, So we in then Uber and we're 868 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 9: heading to like this club. So we in the car. 869 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 9: He looked at me he was like, bro, I got 870 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 9: something to tell you, Like I want to present something 871 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 9: to you. 872 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 11: Okay. 873 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 9: I was like, bro, like I'm drinking, like I'm ready, 874 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 9: I'm ready to go out. But I'm like I was like, 875 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 9: you know what I listened? Like what you got to me? 876 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 9: He He's like, bro, I got this creative and brother, 877 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 9: it's called the Vine Tree, right he got he put 878 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 9: up the PDF he's showing me. He's like listening, bro, 879 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 9: like we can have everything under me, Like it's a tree, 880 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 9: Like it's yeah, just telling me everything. I'm like, bro, 881 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 9: like cool, like cool, like but we're finna get ready 882 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 9: to go out. But that's how he presented by True 883 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 9: and we actually just blew it up. We actually got 884 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 9: a YouTube series Potation. 885 00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: Don't know. 886 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 11: I saw the YouTube, and you have episodes that come. 887 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 9: Out so just season three season yeah yeah, you even. 888 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 10: Put on episodes during the season. Yeah, okay, So what's like, 889 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 10: what's going to happen this season on Divine Tree? 890 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 9: Like what so protect just called prot the Tree, So 891 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 9: it's really. 892 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 11: Just Protect the Trees this series the Trees the Divine Tree. 893 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 9: So it's really just like a day of life of 894 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 9: me and my gang, Like we have a camera, just 895 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 9: follow us and just do anything. So I think this 896 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 9: next episode that's coming out, we dropped six and seven. 897 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 9: I think we dropped in next week to my understanding. 898 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 9: But this one is just like Cjay's birthday party or 899 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 9: you know when we played Atlanta. It's just like a 900 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 9: lot of random things. 901 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, you went to Japan this offseason, you had it? 902 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 11: Did you do a whole thing. 903 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 9: On I didn't have I didn't have my camera got 904 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 9: com into. 905 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 11: All these fantastic pictures from Tokyo. 906 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 9: I wish he would have came with me. It was 907 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 9: a good trip. 908 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 11: That was maybe you go back again. 909 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 9: So I went. I went to Japan for two weeks. 910 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 9: I'm gonna go back out there for like a month, 911 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 9: didn't she? 912 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 10: Okay, so you went to Japan. This was your first 913 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 10: time in Japan. I went to Japan like a week 914 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 10: or two after you went. Because I was looking at 915 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 10: all your pictures. I think we hit some of the 916 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 10: same spots, but you definitely bought a lot more than 917 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 10: There was a lot of great. 918 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 11: Shopping in Tokyo. 919 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 9: And it's cheap out there. 920 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's cheap as relative, but it was 921 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 10: like it was really nice shopping. I thought it was 922 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 10: really interesting that of all the places you go, you 923 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 10: went to Tokyo and you loved it. What did you 924 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 10: love about it in particular? 925 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 9: First of all, I just love how nice the people was. 926 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 11: So respectful. 927 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 9: The city is clean, very clean, no trash anywhere, like 928 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 9: I don't know if you paid attention, like norahsh cans anywhere. Like, 929 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 9: And it's like the food. I think every day I 930 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 9: ate ramen, Yeah every day. 931 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 11: Do you like sushi? 932 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 9: And I do like sushi. I like sushi a lot, 933 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 9: but your set, yeah, I had every day I had 934 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 9: a bowl of ramen. And they told you, like, it's 935 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 9: disrespectful if you don't go in there and slurp the yes. 936 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 9: Pause I got. I got because my guys in the 937 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 9: room was crazy, so pause that. But you have to 938 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 9: slurp the noodles. It's a sign of light respect that 939 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 9: you really are in The food is good, Like if 940 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 9: you don't serve it, they kind of look at you 941 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 9: like it's my food nasty? Really Yeah? 942 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 943 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, So where would you go if you go 944 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 10: anywhere right like after the season, where, Like, where. 945 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 11: Do you think is the next place you I got 946 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 11: to go back to Japan for sure. 947 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 9: Okay, I gotta go to Amsterdam. 948 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 10: I feel like you have mentioned Amsterdam, COVID. Yeah, so 949 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 10: that's where you want to go. That's the next stop. 950 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 11: What do you want? What do you you just want 951 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 11: to like check? Yeah, any any anywhere else? 952 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 9: Amsterdam, Japan. That's really just on my lists. The off 953 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 9: seasons like a lot of training. 954 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 11: So you know, this season was a little busy for 955 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 11: you to you sign. You signed like a contract. 956 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 9: I have enjoy its back to. 957 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 11: Where you know you did that and you went on 958 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 11: your trip. Okay, your contract extension. 959 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 10: I feel like at the end of last year, we 960 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 10: started hearing about Larry Tomson wants to stay in Houston. 961 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 10: He wants to get a contract extension. But like in 962 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 10: the last three three head coaches, a lot of stuff 963 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 10: had changed. Like you could have been like, you know what, 964 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 10: there's a lot of change. There's gonna be another new 965 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 10: head coach, like I want to go somewhere else, But 966 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 10: you really wanted to come back here, even knowing that 967 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 10: there was going to be a new head coach. 968 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 11: So why why did you want to stay at Texan? 969 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 9: I believe in his program, like I believe like everything 970 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 9: was going to change and head into the right direction. 971 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 9: And look what you did? Where's that? I knew it 972 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 9: was going to get a franchise quarterback. That's so baller. 973 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 11: And then you knew that you did not know? 974 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 9: I knew it because I knew, like things not going 975 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 9: to stay the same for for so long, you know 976 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 9: what I mean? So I knew things going to change round. 977 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 9: I wanted to be a part of that, you know. 978 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 9: I wanted to be a part of a rebuilding franchise 979 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 9: and you know, be the head guy in. 980 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 10: That franchise as a player when you're because you've been 981 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 10: through it now a couple of times when a coach, 982 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 10: when there's a coaching search is going on and you 983 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 10: see all the coaches in the coaching cycle, Like what 984 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 10: was your reaction when because all these teams wanted to 985 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 10: hire Tamiko Ryans. 986 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 11: I think he had a. 987 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 10: Request from every single open position and then he comes here, 988 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 10: So like, what was your reaction was? 989 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 9: I was excited? Yeah, I player, I feel like that's 990 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 9: what we needed. A former player, a players. 991 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 11: You never have you ever played for a former player 992 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 11: as a head coach? 993 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 3: I don't think so you haven't here, I have not. 994 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 9: I have not. 995 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, So what did you like about the fact that, 996 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 11: I mean, he's a defensive coach that seems. 997 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 9: To it's not a problem at all. He's young too, 998 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 9: so he's like he's played, so it's relatable. And you 999 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 9: know what I mean, I could talk to him be like, oh, 1000 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 9: how you feel about this or what you think about that? 1001 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 9: So it's relatable. 1002 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, he's not too far removed from the game now, 1003 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 11: he's not. 1004 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 9: And he's consistent, like I know what I'm gonna get 1005 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 9: from the Miko every single day. And that's important for us. 1006 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 9: I think that's what we needed this franchise. 1007 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: Does it is it? 1008 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 10: Does it hit different? Knowing that he also was in 1009 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 10: your shoes not that long ago. 1010 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 9: That's different. 1011 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 10: But he's telling you to do You're like, okay, he's speaking. 1012 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 11: From a point of first person perspective, like he's done this. 1013 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 9: That's important. I think that'support for all of us. 1014 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, how many people have the luxury playing 1015 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 10: for a guy been through it at the level that 1016 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 10: he's been at, a. 1017 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 9: Pro player, like he played at a high Look, he 1018 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 9: didn't know me. 1019 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, second year All Pro Defensive Rookie of the Year, 1020 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 10: like any accolades. He got them there, CJ. One of 1021 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 10: the first things that CJ said was that after he 1022 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 10: got drafted him up. 1023 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 9: H yeah, let's get this ball rolling. 1024 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 11: I had you watched a lot of CJ in college. 1025 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 9: I was a big fan of CJ, especially like I 1026 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 9: think it was like c J Briars, like I was 1027 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 9: watching both of them, yea. And I think when they 1028 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 9: played Georgia that's when he won me over. I was like, 1029 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 9: this dude is balling against a really good team. 1030 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 8: Uh huh. 1031 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 10: So on draft night it was CJ. And then oh 1032 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 10: we trade up Will Anderson and then you were like this, 1033 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 10: I knew it. I knew this is what we were 1034 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 10: going to get. 1035 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 9: Nick was going crazy that day. Nick was going crazy. 1036 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 9: Nick does a good job. I think Nick like being 1037 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 9: behind the scenes. I said this the other day in 1038 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 9: the interview. Nick's like to be behind the scenes but 1039 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 9: be going crazy. 1040 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1041 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 9: Nick knew how to draft Nick. 1042 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 10: He was wheeling to deal on draft night. He was 1043 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 10: and as a as a player, like you're seeing all 1044 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 10: these new new players come in. I feel like last year, 1045 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 10: I remember all the young guys, the guys that were 1046 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 10: rookies last year talking about you and you like loved 1047 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 10: last year's rookie. 1048 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 11: Like Jalen Damien, and this year I feel like the same. 1049 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 11: It's the same, same way. 1050 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 10: But I feel like that's also how you've changed since 1051 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 10: you got here. I think when you first got here, 1052 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 10: you were like really quiet, you were chill. 1053 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 11: You still are. 1054 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 10: But I think ever since you became captain, like you 1055 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 10: have just taken on a different role or maybe maybe 1056 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 10: that was coming and the captain sort of like you 1057 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 10: felt like you could be more vocal. 1058 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, I could be more vocal, but I 1059 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 9: kind of like just leave with my actions, you know 1060 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 9: what I mean. I like I like being consistent with 1061 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 9: my actions, maybe not not as vocal. I like to 1062 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 9: put players to the side and talk to them if 1063 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 9: they need to be like talked to. But there's more 1064 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 9: of like actions with me, Like I try to stay 1065 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 9: consistent with everything I do. 1066 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 10: Will you be will you tell a player if you think, like, hey, 1067 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 10: you shouldn't you should do it? Like will you be 1068 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 10: critical of a player too? 1069 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 9: It's more of like, hey, like I think this would work, 1070 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 9: but I think this will work, like you and see 1071 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 9: if it works. Yeah, I'll be trying to let them 1072 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 9: beat themselves. That's important too. 1073 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1074 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 11: Do you find that players come to you for advice? 1075 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 9: Yeah? I think so. They call me og But I like, 1076 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 9: this is your a I'm too young. 1077 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 11: I mean this is year what a eight? 1078 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 10: You're eight and five with the Texans, which to me 1079 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 10: is crazy that you've played more of your career here. 1080 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 11: That's crazy than in Miami. Do you like how in Miami? 1081 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 10: I feel like every time your name gets mentioned there's 1082 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 10: this maybe you've seen on social media, there's like this 1083 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 10: fake statue that they've put it in the stadium. 1084 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 11: Because of all that. 1085 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 10: Like, obviously you came here for a lot of picks 1086 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 10: and nature in those picks. I mean, you're the gift 1087 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 10: that keeps giving to Miami. 1088 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 9: That's dintre slog too. 1089 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 11: Is it really the gift that keeps giving? 1090 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 9: That is funny? But yeah, no, they actually put that 1091 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 9: statue up for not for sure they got to put 1092 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 9: that statue. 1093 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 12: Oh, they do have to put that statue out. I 1094 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 12: feel like we should get a statue of you before. 1095 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 12: Maybe both places can get a statue of it. All right, Yeah, 1096 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 12: so then you come here, you've been here for five years. 1097 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 10: Not many people have been here as long as you 1098 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 10: and have been through all the different codes, like you 1099 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 10: got here. It was like that you and Titus on offense, 1100 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 10: your relationship with Titus, I feel like you guys are 1101 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 10: really close. After you got your deal done, you were 1102 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 10: very vocal about Titus getting his deal done, and Titus 1103 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 10: got his deal done. 1104 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1105 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 10: Do you think that maybe one day when you retired, 1106 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 10: this might be your calling, like financially, just like helping 1107 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 10: players out advice deals done, like kind of like an agent, 1108 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 10: but like advisor, like an advisor role. 1109 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 9: I'd be like an advisor manager maybe who knows not the. 1110 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 11: Agent though, No, you don't want to be an agent, 1111 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 11: you want to be an advisor. 1112 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 9: I'd be like advisor. 1113 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 10: All right, Well, Laramie, it is my last deep slant, 1114 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 10: And I feel like we always talk about you being 1115 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 10: an all pro because I feel like you're like really close. 1116 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 11: What do you think you need to do to get there? 1117 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 11: I feel like last year you had that type of season. 1118 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 9: Yeah I did, I did. I don't know. Magic control 1119 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 9: what I control, and that's being consistent. I think that's 1120 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 9: one of my biggest things. It's just every game I 1121 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 9: go to is just like how to stay consistent in 1122 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 9: the good in the bad, you know what I mean. 1123 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 9: But also having a bottle of quarterback that might help me. 1124 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a lot moreen a lot of You've gotten 1125 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 10: a lot of as even in losing seasons. 1126 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a lot of highs on CJ. So maybe 1127 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 9: that can help me. And you know, team success is 1128 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 9: a huge thing and all pro. Yes, so maybe they'll 1129 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 9: help me too. But just focus on week and focus 1130 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 9: on Nest winning games and helping the team, you. 1131 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 11: Know, all right, I'd love to hear best of luck Laramie. 1132 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 9: Appreciate it, man. 1133 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 2: I love those two and they do a great, great 1134 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: job together, Laramie, Tunseel and Deep City. Now Laramie is 1135 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: on the injury report? Who else is We'll get to 1136 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: that next in Texans All Access. Yes, sir, welcome back 1137 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: to Wednesday in issue of Texans All Access from the Honday. 1138 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Texans radio studio. 1139 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris Football on the sideline reporter 1140 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: for your Houston Texas. Let's dive into this injury report 1141 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 2: as I mentioned it teas Labor Tunzel is on it. 1142 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: He did not participate in practice today. Deal with that, Neil. 1143 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 2: But it's also a rest day for Laramie hopefully Laramie 1144 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 2: will be ready to go. I'm pretty sure he'll be 1145 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 2: ready to go for Sunday against some of the great 1146 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: pass rushers from Tampa Bay Shack, Barrett, Joe Tryon, Sharyinka. 1147 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, looking forward to having larom me back, but 1148 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 2: did not participate. A couple of big names here. Robert 1149 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: Woods has been talking with Robert missing this game as well. 1150 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 2: We really missed Robert and we will miss Robert until 1151 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: he's able to come back. Revin Jordan missed the game 1152 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 2: as well, saying there can oar Holeman deal with the ankle. 1153 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: He was a d m P and Damian Pierce was 1154 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 2: a d MP with an ankle. Now, the thought is 1155 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: that he might be able to go, but they're kind 1156 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: of examining it. He's not really kind of been ruled. 1157 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: I think they already have not ruled out Robert, but 1158 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: I think the thought is that he's probably not going 1159 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: to be ready to go. So Holman, Jordan's, Damian Pierce, 1160 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: lem Me, TUNTL, Robert Woods, DMPs, George fan Tyas, Howard, 1161 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 2: Sheldon Rankins back in a limited capacity. 1162 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 7: That was good. 1163 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 2: Jimmy Ward a rest day and then he had full 1164 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: participants Cashman, Josh Jones, Denzel Perriman, and Tavier Thomas Videvea 1165 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 2: the big one full participant in practice for the Bucks. 1166 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: Dang it. 1167 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: I don't like see you guys hurt, but I'd like 1168 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: for that guy to take another week off. All right, 1169 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 2: we get back Simon with the Texans OG Podcast. INDI 1170 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 2: clue with Mighty Mike Quinn, former Texans quarterback. That's next 1171 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: on Texans All Access. We got one our down, one 1172 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: our left to go. Right here on a Wednesday edition 1173 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: of Texans All Access. So we're kicking off this hour. 1174 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 2: My good friend n d. 1175 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 7: Khlou. 1176 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: I am John Harris Football and on the sideline reporter and. 1177 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: Indy had a chance to sit down with his Texans 1178 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 2: OG podcast with the Mighty Mike Quinn, former Texans quarterback. 1179 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: Every time we have a homecoming event, I see Mike around. 1180 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: Great guy and great podcast here. So let's rock ind 1181 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: and Mike Quinn. 1182 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 7: Another edition of OG podcast. I am in d Kalou 1183 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 7: and sitting across from me, good buddy of mine. Just 1184 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 7: a good person. Obviously a great football player, that's how 1185 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 7: he made it to the NFL, but a better man. 1186 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 7: If you ask me. Mike Quinn, a former quarterback for 1187 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 7: the Houston Texans former quarterback in the NFL, joining us 1188 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 7: for the OG podcast. What's going on, Big Mike? 1189 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 9: A lot? 1190 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: Not a lot. 1191 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 8: I appreciate you having me, indeed, And look. 1192 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 7: I don't say that about everybody just for the listening 1193 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 7: or is. Mike's one of those guys if you ask 1194 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 7: him for a favor, and it's hard for me to 1195 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 7: ask people for favors. If he can do it, he's 1196 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 7: gonna do it. If he can't do it, he's gonna 1197 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 7: try to figure out a way to do it. And 1198 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 7: my experience with Mike, I do a free camp every 1199 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 7: single year and it's so tough to get former professional 1200 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 7: quarterbacks guys that know that position to come help out 1201 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 7: with the camp. Every year I've asked him to do it, 1202 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 7: he's been there. One year, he almost had a conflict 1203 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 7: and he figured out a way to get there. So Mike, 1204 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 7: just you know, from the bottom of my heart, I've 1205 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 7: always appreciate how accessible you've been, and to me, that's 1206 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 7: the best part of our camp, you know, because it's 1207 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 7: tough to it's easy to teach you defensive end, it's 1208 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 7: easy to teach running backs, but it's tough to teach 1209 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 7: somebody the skills at the quarterback position and to have 1210 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 7: a guy like yourself do it and every year show up. 1211 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 7: I just really appreciate that. 1212 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 13: Now my pleasure, Indy, And you know that camp is 1213 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 13: so great. You have so many guys out there helping 1214 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 13: out and you know, the kids are very lucky to 1215 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 13: have it. So kudos to you. 1216 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 7: For appreciate that. 1217 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 3: Well. 1218 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 7: Speaking of quarterbacks, the Texans, they have a pretty good 1219 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 7: one in c. J. Stroud as a guy that knows 1220 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 7: the position. Can you kind of just talk about what 1221 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 7: you're seeing from the young rook. 1222 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, So so going back we uh So, my family's 1223 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 13: from Columbus, Ohio, so I grew up a Buckeyes fan, 1224 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 13: and so we kind of have been following him at 1225 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 13: Ohio State and we actually went to uh took my 1226 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 13: son and my wife there last year for the game 1227 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 13: against Michigan. 1228 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 8: Uh So that was pretty cool. 1229 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 13: So he's been a, uh I guess, our favorite college 1230 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 13: quarterback for a while and then when he came here, 1231 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 13: my son was like, oh, this is awesome. 1232 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 8: Uh So it's been great to see. 1233 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 13: Him, you know, uh, the way he's been playing this 1234 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 13: year taking care of the football and uh, you know, 1235 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 13: doing the things that he's doing. So he's he's obviously 1236 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 13: got so much arm talent and just a uh a 1237 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 13: good processor of the uh you know, the information that 1238 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 13: he's getting from the defense and making good decisions that 1239 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 13: he's gonna to be a very successful quarterback and you know, 1240 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 13: hopefully break a lot of records here with the Texans. 1241 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 7: It's it's obviously the toughest position in all sports, in 1242 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 7: my opinion. And you watched him in college. When you 1243 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 7: were watching him at Ohio State, did you think, like, 1244 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 7: this guy is going to translate to a good NFL 1245 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 7: quarterback or were you a little skeptical of coming to 1246 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 7: that conclusion. 1247 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 8: No, I thought he was going to be a great 1248 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 8: NFL quarterback. 1249 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 13: He was making big boy throws at you know, at 1250 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 13: the college level, anticipating anticipating the throws and not just 1251 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 13: you know, hitting guys that were wide open. You know, 1252 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 13: he was he was putting putting the ball in tight windows. 1253 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 13: So that translates to the NFL. And uh, you know 1254 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 13: what you're seeing with him on Sundays is what he 1255 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 13: was doing there. 1256 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. Even though it was a loss, 1257 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 7: against Carolina this past week. There was one play where 1258 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 7: when I was watching the game, I had just sit 1259 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 7: up in my seat to make sure I watched it 1260 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 7: correct I saw it correctly. He threw in between two defenders, 1261 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 7: and I believe it was Noah Brown, but just like 1262 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 7: you said, you didn't see him just hitting the wide 1263 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 7: open guy. But it was an amazing throw, amazing cash too. 1264 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 7: But it was in between two defenders and when I say, 1265 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 7: they were both within inches of being able to knock 1266 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 7: it down. But he just throw the need or whatever, 1267 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 7: y'all say, Yeah, it was pretty impressive not to just 1268 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 7: have the guts to throw that, but to actually execute 1269 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 7: it correctly. 1270 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. 1271 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 13: And he's making those throws and he's you know what 1272 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 13: was what did he go six games without an interception 1273 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 13: and you're still making you know, those tight window throws, 1274 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,959 Speaker 13: you know, because you know things happen where ball gets 1275 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 13: batted or something like that, bounces off a guy or 1276 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 13: something and it gets intercepted, and you know he hasn't 1277 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 13: had any of that going on. So it's, uh, it's 1278 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 13: exciting to see where the team's going. 1279 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 7: What's the thought process as a guy that played quarterback 1280 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 7: at a high level, like can you are there times 1281 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 7: where you hesitate like should I throw it? Maybe not? 1282 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 7: And I'm assuming the answer is, well, if you're hesitanting, 1283 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 7: then you just should have made the throw. Like how 1284 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 7: do you get past that? 1285 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 1: Oh? 1286 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 8: Man, it's uh, it's it's a trust thing. I think. 1287 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 8: You know, you got to go into it committing. 1288 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 13: You know, probably your little talk to yourself before the 1289 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 13: game that hey, I'm committing to every play, you know, 1290 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 13: one play at a time, and you know, I'm gonna 1291 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 13: trust my eyes, I'm gonna trust my arm, and you know, 1292 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 13: be decisive with what I'm doing because you're right. If 1293 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 13: if you're indecisive and you're hesitant, it ain't gonna work. 1294 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 8: You know, you have to cut it loose and you know, 1295 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 8: live with the results. 1296 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 7: Whether it's in college, whether it's in you know, in 1297 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 7: the pros. Are there ever a coaching because if I 1298 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 7: was a coach, and this is probably why I'm not one, 1299 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 7: if I name the guys starting quarterback, I would actually 1300 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 7: pull him to the side and say, hey, if you 1301 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 7: throw some interceptions, you're fine. Because if I was a quarterback, 1302 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 7: I would be so cautious of not turning the ball over. 1303 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 7: It probably I wouldn't be effective as far as making plays. 1304 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 7: But do coaches say that to quarterbacks? And does that 1305 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 7: kind of help you out? If they do? 1306 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 8: I think some do. 1307 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 13: I wish more did, because I think that is how 1308 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 13: you get the best out of a quarterback is if 1309 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 13: he knows that there's no leash attached to him. You 1310 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 13: know that he's not gonna you know, he's not looking 1311 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 13: over his shoulder and going, oh man, if I'm not 1312 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 13: aggressive with this football, you know, or if i'm too 1313 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 13: you know, making mistakes, they're going. 1314 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 9: To pull me. 1315 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 13: I think the guys that play the best are the 1316 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 13: guys that have that, you know, that temporary amnesia where 1317 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 13: they you know, they do something wrong, they throw a 1318 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 13: pick or something delete, it's gone from their memory and they're. 1319 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 8: Just cutting it loose the very next play. 1320 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 13: And the coaches can help the quarterbacks out so much 1321 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 13: with just you know, reinforcing that, hey, I'm gonna pull 1322 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 13: you if you're hesitant, I'm not going to pull you 1323 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 13: if you're you know, decisive and being aggressive. 1324 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 8: You know what I mean. 1325 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, that's a great Uh, that's a great thought 1326 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 7: right there, Like I'm gonna pull you if you're not 1327 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 7: trying to make that. 1328 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's how you get the best out 1329 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 13: of them at any level, at any level. 1330 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 7: What's the toughest part going from college football to the 1331 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 7: NFL as a quarterback. 1332 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 13: It's it's so much the speed, you know, and the 1333 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 13: windows where you know the guys aren't going to be 1334 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 13: as open in the NFL as they were in college, 1335 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 13: and you just still got to find a way to 1336 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 13: you know, speed up your decision making and uh and 1337 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 13: that kind of thing because it's it's moving so much faster, 1338 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 13: and then the defenses are more complex, and so just 1339 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 13: being able to see you with your eyes and then 1340 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 13: process and information and make decisions. That's that's the biggest 1341 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 13: difference in the biggest hurdle for guys coming out of 1342 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 13: college to kind of get get through and in order 1343 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 13: to be successful at this level. 1344 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 7: Maybe I'm too hard on the coaches and remind everybody 1345 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 7: speaking with Mike Quinn played at SFA, Stephen f. Austin 1346 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 7: played in the NFL, played with Troy Aikman, played with 1347 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 7: some of the greats out there as well, so knows 1348 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 7: a lot about the position. But maybe I'm too tough 1349 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 7: on the coaches, Mike, because I'll watch I watch a 1350 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 7: lot of college football and I'll see quarterbacks and I'm like, man, 1351 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 7: that dude is good. And then when they get to 1352 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 7: the NFL, they don't have the success I expect them 1353 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 7: to have. And we always put it on the player. 1354 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 7: But I maybe came to this conclusion like three or 1355 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 7: four years ago. I'm like, you know what, maybe the 1356 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 7: people around these guys aren't really teaching them the NFL 1357 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 7: game the way they should be. I mean, do you 1358 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 7: have that thought as a guy that played the position 1359 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 7: that watches and you still train quarterbacks at this day. 1360 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's it's not just one thing. 1361 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: You know. 1362 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 13: Sometimes, you know, these good college quarterbacks they get drafted 1363 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 13: and they go to teams that aren't very good, to 1364 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 13: organizations that are dysfunctional, and it's hard to as a 1365 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 13: quarterback to really, you know, overcome that and bring everything 1366 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 13: up around you. 1367 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 9: You know. 1368 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 13: I always think about Peyton Manning. You know, his first 1369 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 13: year with the Colts, I think there were three and thirteen. 1370 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 13: The next year they were thirteen and three. You know, 1371 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 13: fact check me, but I think that's what they did. 1372 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 13: I mean, he turned that organization around, and it was 1373 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 13: just his work ethic and how he went about it, 1374 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 13: and obviously very talented as well. But I think getting 1375 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 13: all the pieces around on the quarterback, not only the 1376 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 13: players but the coaches is extremely important to get the most. 1377 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 7: Out of them. But even like Peyton Manning, I'm glad 1378 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 7: you brought that up, because one thing I do know 1379 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 7: is his rookie year he threw more interceptions than touchdowns. 1380 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 7: But there was never this thought that, oh, he's a 1381 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 7: bus or you're gonna pull him, and then he goes 1382 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 7: on to have the Hall of Fame career, arguably one 1383 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 7: of the best quarterbacks ever played. Then you have guys 1384 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 7: where after three games people are questioning whether or not 1385 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 7: it's just and maybe I'm just too focused on the negative, 1386 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 7: but I just feel like many quarterbacks aren't truly given 1387 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 7: a chance to go through their bumps, where others, you know, 1388 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 7: Troy Aikman, if I'm not mistaken, they went oh and 1389 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 7: eleven or one and eleven his rookie year, but you knew, 1390 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 7: maybe because it's where he was drafted, that he was 1391 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 7: going to get be given every opportunity. But yet some 1392 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 7: other guys, you know, after three or four games, people 1393 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 7: just say, oh, he's not the right fit. 1394 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly. I think it's just the world we live 1395 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 13: in nowadays that it's just changed. Everybody's just expecting immediate 1396 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 13: results with everything in their lives and that a football 1397 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 13: is no exception. So yeah, it's it's it's tough for 1398 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 13: the quarterbacks, you know, to uh get some footing and 1399 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 13: get some momentum when they when they just they know 1400 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 13: they're not going to have that many opportunities. And there's 1401 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 13: some talented guys I think out there that you know, 1402 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 13: aren't getting another shot just because things went poorly for 1403 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 13: you know, for one season or you know, with one team. 1404 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 13: So it's tough, but I think everybody knows it going 1405 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 13: into it, so they're trying to make the best of it. 1406 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 2: The Texans Og Podcast with Indie Clue and guest Mike Quinn. 1407 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 8: Indy that moved to Houston for my last year of 1408 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 8: high school. 1409 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 13: We moved in April of my junior year and went 1410 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 13: to Lee High School here in Houston, which is now 1411 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 13: called Wisdom And well. 1412 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 7: Let me tell you there, because that's tough to be 1413 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 7: a star athlete. 1414 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 5: I was. 1415 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 8: There was no star athlete, Yeah, no, it was. 1416 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 3: I was. 1417 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 8: I was a backup in Las Vegas. 1418 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 7: You're a late bloomer. Yeah, you don't get to college football, 1419 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 7: you know, if you're just decent in high school. 1420 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 13: Yeah, late bloomer, definitely. I think I was five to 1421 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 13: five hundred and forty pounds in ninth grade, Yeah, and 1422 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 13: could always throw the ball, but hadn't really figured out 1423 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 13: what I was going to do football wise. And I 1424 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 13: didn't start playing quarterback until tenth grade. And I was 1425 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 13: a starter on JV out in Las Vegas and then 1426 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 13: we moved to Houston. I was a backup my junior 1427 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 13: year and then you know, I kind of saw the 1428 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 13: writing on the wall. There was another guy that was 1429 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 13: a much better athlete than me. He ended up playing 1430 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 13: baseball at Stanford, was a starter in Vegas, and so 1431 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 13: I saw the writing on the walls, like, hey, I'm 1432 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 13: not going to play here. And when the my family 1433 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 13: was like, hey, we're going to move to Houston, I 1434 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 13: was like, okay, let's go. 1435 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 8: And so it worked out well. At the school that 1436 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 8: we were. 1437 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 13: Zoned for didn't have a quarterback returning, so I was 1438 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 13: able to go in there and you know, get that job, 1439 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 13: and uh we did. We did well that season, but 1440 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 13: wasn't recruited at all. I think I had a few 1441 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 13: offers to walk on, and since Stephen F. Austin was 1442 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 13: a team that or the school that showed the most 1443 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 13: interest in me and said, hey, we really want you 1444 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 13: to walk on, and you know, we don't have a scholarship, 1445 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 13: but you know, hopefully if you know things go well, 1446 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 13: you can earn one. And uh so I walked on there. 1447 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 13: You know, after after the career at Lee, the one 1448 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 13: year career at Lee, I did. 1449 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 7: Not that's very interesting. As long as I've known you, 1450 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 7: I did not know that. I thought you spent your 1451 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 7: entire high school career here in Age Town. Uh, because 1452 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 7: I knew you, I knew you went to a school 1453 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 7: in Houston. We talked about it before, right then, Steven F. Austin, 1454 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 7: So you walked on there? When when did you realize, hey, 1455 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 7: I could play, you know, I could play at a 1456 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 7: high level. When did it? When did you really get 1457 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 7: comfortable in knowing that? 1458 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1459 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 13: So it was so I got red shirted in my 1460 01:00:54,920 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 13: freshman year and then was put on scholarship beginning of 1461 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 13: my I guess red shirt sophomore year. So going into 1462 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 13: my second year, head coach John Pierce put me on scholarship. 1463 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 7: So they definitely saw something. 1464 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think so, I think so, and you know 1465 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 13: it was it was not until and I didn't start 1466 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 13: until my senior year. There we had another quarterback that 1467 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 13: was really good, that was ahead of me, one year 1468 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 13: ahead of me. His name was James Ritchie. 1469 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 7: James. Hey, did he go to Washington? 1470 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 9: No? 1471 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 13: He he spent two years with the Oilers, okay, ninety 1472 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:31,959 Speaker 13: six and ninety seven. 1473 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 8: He was a backup quarterback no, the Oilers. So he 1474 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 8: was ahead of me. 1475 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 13: So I didn't, you know, I had a couple opportunities 1476 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 13: to start a couple of games my sophomore year when 1477 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 13: he got banged up, but I wasn't the full time 1478 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 13: starter until my senior year. 1479 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 8: But it was I think my sophomore. 1480 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, red shirt sophomore year when coach Piers, you know, 1481 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 13: during practice, just one day, randomly, after a play, he 1482 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 13: just told me he's like, hey, you're gonna play in 1483 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 13: the NFL so day and I'm sitting here thinking, are 1484 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 13: you sure? 1485 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 8: Because you know, you know, I'd always had that as 1486 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 8: a dream of mine. 1487 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 13: But for you know, someone that's you know, uh, that's 1488 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 13: been around, you know, highly successful college programs, and everything 1489 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 13: he's seen NFL quarterbacks to tell me that, and that 1490 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 13: just gave me a lot of confidence. And that's when I, 1491 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 13: you know, really started to have it in the back 1492 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 13: of my mind to you know, hey, that's what I 1493 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 13: want to do. 1494 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 7: That's awesome. So how did you learn about being put 1495 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 7: on scholarship, because that's a big deal. Yeah it was. 1496 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 13: Uh, it wasn't one of those you know things that 1497 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 13: you see that are filmed nowadays where they announced it 1498 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 13: to the whole team and everybody goes crazy. 1499 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 8: It was just a conversation between him and I. 1500 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 9: Uh. 1501 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 13: I think it was after practice in the quarterback meeting 1502 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 13: room and you know, he told me, and yeah, I was. 1503 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 13: I was pretty excited because just I think maybe three 1504 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 13: or four months before that, after the spring semester, he 1505 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 13: told me, hey, you know, I can't put you on 1506 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 13: scholarship you know, this year, but you know, you know, 1507 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 13: we'll see how everything goes. And a scholarship opened up, 1508 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 13: and yeah, he gave it to me. 1509 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 8: So I was fired up. 1510 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 7: What was that called like home? 1511 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 8: It was pretty good? Yeah, it was pretty good. 1512 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think you know, everybody, everybody was really excited 1513 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 13: and proud of you know, because I was, you know, 1514 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 13: putting in the work to try to get there and 1515 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 13: to have be able to realize what had been a 1516 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 13: dream of you know, being a scholarship athlete at at 1517 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 13: a university. 1518 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 8: It came true. So it was pretty cool. 1519 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 13: Any tears, you know, I don't remember. I think it 1520 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 13: was more just excitement. Yeah, yeah, just more excitement. 1521 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 7: Because you've been working so hard. So I'm sure a 1522 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 7: part of you was like, Okay, yeah, I've learned this. 1523 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 7: It's not like it was just handed to me. I 1524 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 7: love that story. That that's we need more of those stories, 1525 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 7: just talking about resilience than just you know, guys in 1526 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 7: the eighth grade being offered for rides and because to me, 1527 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 7: that's what's gonna last a lifetime. And you're seeing that 1528 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 7: off the field. I just saw because we're linked LinkedIn brothers. 1529 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 7: I don't know what you call it on LinkedIn, but 1530 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 7: I saw you're celebrating fourteen years at the same company, 1531 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 7: same real estate companies, So congratulations. 1532 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 8: Appreciate it. 1533 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 7: Did you take any of the things that you learned 1534 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 7: in sports to what you're doing now in the real 1535 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 7: estate world? Yeah? 1536 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 8: I think so. 1537 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 13: You know, someone told me that real estate you know 1538 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 13: is like athletics, you're rewarded by the by the work 1539 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 13: that you put into it, and so I think that 1540 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 13: it translates into into what I do on a daily basis, 1541 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 13: is just being able to know that, hey, there's not 1542 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 13: gonna be any food on the table and us I 1543 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 13: go in here and work. 1544 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 8: So that's the same thing for an athlete. 1545 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 13: If you don't go in there and put in the 1546 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 13: work in the weight room, in the film room, on 1547 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 13: the practice field, you know you're not going to see 1548 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 13: the results. So I think it does translate, and I 1549 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 13: think it's, you know, one of the reasons I've stuck 1550 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 13: with it. So yeah, I'm lucky to be at the 1551 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 13: at the company that I'm at. 1552 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 7: You know what, I disagree. I think they're lucky to 1553 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 7: have you, just to be the person that you are 1554 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 7: talking about life after football during this podcast, obviously a 1555 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 7: bunch of former NFL players, we talk about the struggles, 1556 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 7: not not a woe was me, but just transitioning. You know, 1557 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 7: we've been doing this from some guys eight years old, 1558 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 7: ten years old up until we're grown man, grown men. 1559 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 7: What were some of the things you had to adjust 1560 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 7: with to or struggle with when you finally told yourself, Okay, 1561 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 7: I'm done playing. Yeah. 1562 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 13: So it was, you know, my career was up and 1563 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 13: down for you know, the eight years that I was 1564 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 13: in the NFL. You know, I was on the bubble 1565 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 13: each year, So I was, you know, never truly felt 1566 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 13: comfortable that, hey, this is you know, I never knew 1567 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 13: how long I'd be playing. You know, so when I 1568 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 13: finally realized that, hey, you know it's probably done, you know, 1569 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 13: I I struggled with it a little bit, you know, 1570 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 13: a as most guys do, because I felt like I 1571 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 13: could still play. And you know when other people don't 1572 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 13: have the same opinion, you know that that hurts. And 1573 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 13: you know, it took me a while to become a fan. 1574 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 8: Of the game again. 1575 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 13: But I do remember when it when it kind of 1576 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 13: changed and I said, okay, I'm done, and you know, 1577 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 13: I started to become a fan of the game again. 1578 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 13: It was it was probably two or three years after 1579 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 13: I officially kind of, you know, realize that, hey, retirement 1580 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 13: is here for this chapter. 1581 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 2: You know. Quinn, former Texas quarterback with Texan's Og podcast 1582 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 2: star in Dcalue, indeed. 1583 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 7: Football like he was bitter. He was upset. I'm like, man, 1584 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 7: you went to three Pro Bowls, you played ten years, Like, 1585 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 7: what do you mean you're bitter? But it's just tough, 1586 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 7: like even for me. You know, you and I both 1587 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 7: in real estate, and I thought I had everything set up, 1588 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 7: and you know, sometimes I was kind of cocky. I 1589 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 7: was like, you know what, I'm doing things the right way. 1590 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 7: When I'm done, I'm just gonna roll right into it. 1591 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 7: But when I was done, I was like, hold on, wait, 1592 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 7: where's my schedule for the day, Like where's the coach 1593 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 7: telling me where I need to be? And and just 1594 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 7: not even and that what was tough the locker room, 1595 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 7: Like you spent eight years. I don't care if it's 1596 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 7: you know, whether you're on the bubble or not. Just 1597 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 7: something about being in that locker room, being in the system, 1598 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 7: working out like it was just hard to quote unquote 1599 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 7: live that regular life. 1600 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1601 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 13: Absolutely, And when you're a player, you're part of something, 1602 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 13: right that's bigger than yourself, and you know you're all 1603 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 13: working together towards the same goal and part of that organization. 1604 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 13: And obviously the NFL is a premier sports league in 1605 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 13: the in the world, and to be a part of that, 1606 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 13: it's pretty cool. So when that's not in your life anymore. Yeah, 1607 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 13: it's it's kind of a rude awakening. 1608 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 8: And yeah, it took me. 1609 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 13: It took me a few years to kind of, okay, 1610 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 13: settle into not being a you know, professional athlete any longer. 1611 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 7: Now you're so good with the training. Did you ever 1612 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 7: think about coaching? Did you give it a shot? You know, 1613 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 7: did you think about climbing the ranks to be a 1614 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 7: you know, a coach in the NFL or college. 1615 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 13: I did, but I didn't think about it too long 1616 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 13: because I knew the career that I had as a player, 1617 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 13: bouncing around from team to team over those eight years. 1618 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 13: I knew that I didn't want to go through that 1619 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 13: as a coach. And I can remember sitting in actually 1620 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 13: the team meeting room here with the Texans and looking 1621 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,679 Speaker 13: at the program one day, just randomly in between meetings, 1622 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 13: and I was looking at our coaches resumes, and I 1623 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 13: was looking at just how they were moving around every 1624 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:27,960 Speaker 13: you know, one. 1625 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 8: Or two years, all these different places. 1626 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 13: A guy that had been coaching for fifteen years, he'd 1627 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 13: been at you know, twelve different places. 1628 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 8: And I'm like, man, that's tough. You know, it's tough 1629 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 8: if you know, if you want to raise a family 1630 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 8: and do those kind of things. 1631 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 13: It's tough to go through that. So I remember thinking, Okay, 1632 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 13: I'm not going to be, you know, a coach in 1633 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 13: the in college or NFL. 1634 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 8: So I knew that I wanted to be involved with 1635 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,719 Speaker 8: football still. 1636 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 13: So that's when I you know, realized, hey, I can 1637 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 13: do something outside of that and still not have to move, 1638 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,639 Speaker 13: you know, I can still you know, be involved with football. 1639 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 8: So I started a quarterback academy that I still have 1640 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 8: to this day. 1641 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 13: And then I also coach at my son's high school, 1642 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 13: uh on my part time coach on the on the 1643 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 13: varsity team. 1644 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Man, it was fun stuff with Mike Quinn and Andy 1645 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 2: Klude does a tremendous job in the Texans OG podcast 1646 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 2: and appreciate the fact that I can bring that to 1647 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 2: you on Wednesday night. Go check out all of the 1648 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 2: OG podcast at our podcast page, Texas All Access vandamire Resview, 1649 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 2: in the Lab, Deep Slant, and much much more. 1650 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 1: Make sure you check that out. 1651 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 2: Speaking of in the Lab, how about a little Drew 1652 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Doherty and John Harris in the Lab next? Yeah, we 1653 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 2: got a little funky kind of like blue Cheese has 1654 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 2: got that funk. 1655 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 1: It's good funk. That's kind of what in the Lab is. 1656 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 1: It's good funk blue cheese up. Well, no, it's in 1657 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: the lab up next on Texans All Access. Yes, sir, 1658 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 1: you know what time it is. It's in the lab time. 1659 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things to do over with 1660 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 2: the Texans do Our in the Lab podcast, which Doty 1661 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 2: and we kind of funky. We throw some numbers around, 1662 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 2: we jump in the lab and we talk about games, 1663 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 2: we talk about things that went wrong, we talk about things. 1664 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: That went right, but we do definitely talk a lot. 1665 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: So here we go in the lab. Trew Doughty myself go, yeah, 1666 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 1: it's time. 1667 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 3: We're talking cranky. You're cranky. I'm cranky. Texans lost. It 1668 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 3: makes us cranky. It's Halloween while we're shooting this. This 1669 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 3: is going to be released on Deadlas work. It's the 1670 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 3: day after Halloween, So happy November. 1671 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 7: John. 1672 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 2: Okay, wait a second, explain that to me. Dia delas 1673 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 2: Warkos is Day. 1674 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 3: Of the Dead in Spanish, right, all, you know all 1675 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 3: Saints Day, but Halloween is not Helleu's like Hallow's Eve. Yeah, 1676 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 3: so it's like, okay, the night before the night before, 1677 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 3: did you pay attention growing up. No, I'm taught this. 1678 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 1: No I wasn't. Actually, I mean were I moved here 1679 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:53,879 Speaker 1: when I was in sixth. 1680 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 3: At this and yes, they taught this everywhere. I mean, 1681 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 3: I know deals Los Martos, but I thought that was Halloween. No, 1682 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 3: see that I refused just the day after because Halloween 1683 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 3: is celebrating eve of that. 1684 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, you can see where I've been confused, because one 1685 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 2: day it can make a ton of difference. 1686 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 3: I know they can. 1687 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's all my people out there 1688 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 2: that I should have known that. That's my bad. Happy Halloween, 1689 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 2: Happy day after deals Deos Martos. 1690 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 7: Sorry, my bad. 1691 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,759 Speaker 1: Hopefully get a lot of candy. 1692 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1693 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 3: So, like we mentioned earlier, we're gonna do Whitey, which 1694 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 3: is what if I told you. Then we're gonna have 1695 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 3: a texting to watch against the Buccaneers, and then after 1696 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 3: that we're gonna talk with Henry to Oto. But we're 1697 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 3: talking about stuff off the field. You've already had a 1698 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 3: sneak peak of this, you heard or sneak listen you 1699 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 3: heard that interview. And he's one of eight children. Yeah, 1700 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 3: he's got some interesting facts. He's a he's a cool story, 1701 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 3: really cool story. So we're gonna have some fun things 1702 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,640 Speaker 3: with him. But John, dang it, I didn't get to 1703 01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 3: go to Charlotte. I was. Uh, I was here, deep was, 1704 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 3: and I saw the game from my home. I was 1705 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 3: furiously typing. There was smoke coming off my fingertips and 1706 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 3: my computer keyboard. But uh, Texans fall fifteen thirteen. What 1707 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 3: if I told you John before the game? 1708 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Right? 1709 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,640 Speaker 3: Hey, John, my friend, let's talk football. The Texans this 1710 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 3: weekend are gonna allow forty four rushing yards. They're gonna 1711 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 3: have a goal line stand on defense and come away successfully. 1712 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 3: They're not gonna let let the guys get into the 1713 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 3: end zone. They're gonna sack Bryce Young six times. They're 1714 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 3: gonna hit him ten times total, and on those sacks, 1715 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna get fifty five yards worth of field position. 1716 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 3: Oh and then it's not defense. But let me just 1717 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 3: add in Cam Johnston. He's gonna punt six times. Four 1718 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 3: of them are Gore, gonna be down inside the twenty, 1719 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,679 Speaker 3: and one of those that's down inside the twenty Camp 1720 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 3: punted from his own end zone. And it's the longest 1721 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 3: punt in Texans history. Now, normally, when you delve into 1722 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 3: punting stats, not gonna be good. But what if I 1723 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 3: told you all those things before the game? 1724 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Shut out, shut out, it's not even close. 1725 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,840 Speaker 2: Forty four rushing yards come on, and you get a 1726 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 2: goal line stop for those punts are inside the twenty 1727 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 2: yard line of the sixth that Cam had. Yeah, it's 1728 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 2: not it's not a close game if it is, Okay, 1729 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: did the Texans turn the ball over significant amounts of time? 1730 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 3: Just once? 1731 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 1: Just once? You didn't get any Okay, it's a it's 1732 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: a win. It's gotta be. 1733 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 7: How could it? 1734 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: How could it not be? Well, here's how it could 1735 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: not be. Play game on third and five, face mask 1736 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,719 Speaker 1: on a sack, which that's hard to fault John Grenard 1737 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: for that one. 1738 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 2: But here, I mean he was just flying high and 1739 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,720 Speaker 2: just happened to get it. Defensive holding that kept the 1740 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 2: drive alive on third down. And that's a tougher one 1741 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 2: because you gotta know it's third and nine nineteen. I mean, 1742 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 2: you got to you gotta trust yourself like you've never 1743 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,600 Speaker 2: trusted yourself. Like, Okay, I go, it's third nineteen. I 1744 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 2: cannot get called for the contact. I cannot get called 1745 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 2: for holding. I can't give a five yard penalty and 1746 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 2: give them, or even a ten yard penalty and give them, 1747 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 2: you know, a first down. 1748 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I can't can't do it that that happened. 1749 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 2: So break you had you had four passes batted down, 1750 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 2: and I think it was four, might have been five, 1751 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 2: but you had four batted down, and I'm convinced that 1752 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 2: at least one of them is going to a wide 1753 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 2: open wide receiver. Now, flip side of that is the 1754 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 2: first one that was batted down was gonna be a 1755 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 2: pick six by Brian Burns if he caught the ball. 1756 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 1: It was a throw that CJ. 1757 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 3: Would have wanted it time out, time out, time out. 1758 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 3: We knew this going in, but it was just reinforced. 1759 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 3: Brian Burns is a pain in the ass. That guy 1760 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 3: is really really good. Yeah, he wouldn't mind him on 1761 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 3: my team. I think all other thirty one NFL teams 1762 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't mind him on theirs as well. 1763 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 2: You know what was interesting was the fact that Burns 1764 01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 2: before the game, I saw him. I walked kind of 1765 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 2: down the sidelines. I saw him and he was not 1766 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 2: really kind of lined up with everybody because he was 1767 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 2: kind of playing with his elbow brace. And when you're 1768 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 2: doing something that you're not used to and playing with 1769 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 2: the elbow brace is something that for past rushers, I mean, 1770 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 2: they like their hands to be free and they like to, 1771 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, be able to kind of work their level 1772 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 2: levers the way they want to. When you see a 1773 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 2: guy like that kind of messing with a brace like that, 1774 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, that's gonna be in his head. 1775 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 9: That's good. 1776 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: That's good. 1777 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 7: It wasn't good. 1778 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 2: He slipped blocks, He was around the ball the entire 1779 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 2: entire day. There was one play where somehow we slid 1780 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 2: protection away from him and had Devin Singletary one on one. Now, 1781 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 2: going back and watch the play, I do think there 1782 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 2: was supposed to be some help, maybe from a tight end, 1783 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,840 Speaker 2: but I'm not totally sure about that. If it was, 1784 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 2: it was not great help. But I just remember what 1785 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 2: I was able to see was I was standing right 1786 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 2: there and I see Singletary one on one with Brian Burns. 1787 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 2: I thought, that can't be in the game plan. That 1788 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 2: can't be in the game plan. Like that cannot be 1789 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 2: the game plan, not at all. There's some frustrating aspects 1790 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 2: of what what went on. You didn't run the ball 1791 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 2: exceptionally well, you had some moments, but yeah, it's it's tough, tough. 1792 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Indeed, let's wipe it clean from the memory banks. Let's 1793 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 3: look forward and with the help of Randy the Macho 1794 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 3: Man Savage Crop, let's predict next week if we were 1795 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 3: to do a Cream of the Crop award, who's your 1796 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 3: cream of the cropper going to be for the Houston 1797 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 3: Texans when they take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And 1798 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 3: before we get into that, I just want to say, 1799 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 3: it's almost in some ways, it's like these teams are 1800 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 3: mirror images of each other. Really good defense as far 1801 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 3: as not giving up too many points so far this season. 1802 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Really solid quarterback play. Now one's a rookie, ones not. 1803 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 3: But there's lots of little similarities here. When you look 1804 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 3: at this team. You're good in turnover differential. This is 1805 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 3: the best team in the NFL coming into this game. Yeah, 1806 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 3: at plus eight the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now Texans are 1807 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 3: just a few behind him at plus five they're top 1808 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 3: ten as well. But it seems like there's a lot 1809 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 3: of similarities here. So with all that in mind, who's 1810 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,640 Speaker 3: a cream of the cropper? When we're uh, we're all 1811 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 3: said and done. Sunday afternoon around three three fifteen. 1812 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 2: Well, if the Texas want to leave that building with 1813 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 2: a win, I'm maybe gonna say the most obvious player 1814 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 2: I could possibly say, and that's CJ. 1815 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Stroud. Yeah, we need for CJ to be that guy. 1816 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 2: Now, let me be very clear about this. I don't 1817 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 2: think CJ hasn't been that guy. I think CJ has 1818 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 2: been fabulous this year. But we can't leave that stadium 1819 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 2: with CJ having thrown less and throw fewer times than 1820 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 2: we ran the ball right, And that was the case 1821 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 2: last week. Now he had four I think four passes 1822 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 2: that were batted down. But you know what, we were 1823 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 2: seven games into this thing, and I trust CJ. Stroud 1824 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 2: probably about as much as I trust any other player 1825 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 2: on this team. Guys have been around for fifteen years 1826 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 2: in this league. Guys have been around for fifteen minutes. 1827 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 2: I trust CJ. Stroud with the ball in his hands 1828 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,480 Speaker 2: more than I trust anything else in this in this organization. 1829 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 2: On his team whatever, CJ. Stroud I think has got 1830 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 2: to be that cream of the crop player. 1831 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 3: And look, can you say, hey, you just brought up 1832 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 3: batted passes. Okay, let's take those four out of the equation. Yeah, 1833 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 3: that means he's only thrown twenty passes in that game. 1834 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 3: You ran the ball thirty times, right, So it's a 1835 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 3: three to two ratio by my stupid math. Yeah, yeah, 1836 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 3: sold twenty four overall. 1837 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And. 1838 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean I remember Bill Brien used to say this, 1839 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, you don't really know what kind of team 1840 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 2: you have till you get around Thanksgiving. I didn't really 1841 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 2: agree with that. I felt like you kind of knew 1842 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 2: what your team was by the time you got to November. Well, 1843 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 2: we're to November. And I think defensively, there's an identity there. 1844 01:18:54,760 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 2: There's aggression, there is physicality, there is you know, pretty 1845 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 2: good coverage in the back end. I mean, I think 1846 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,840 Speaker 2: the defense has really found kind of its identity and 1847 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 2: what it's gonna be. You know, bend a little like 1848 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 2: we used to have defenses that bent a lot and 1849 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 2: then held up in the red zone even good years. 1850 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 2: This team does not bend much at all. But they 1851 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 2: need some help in the fourth quarter. It can't be 1852 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,560 Speaker 2: a situation where it's a one point game or a 1853 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 2: two point game in the fourth quarter, like, it's got 1854 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 2: to be a game in which they're up ten and 1855 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 2: now Bryce Young's trying to throw it because if the 1856 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,160 Speaker 2: Texas have been up ten, have they taken care of 1857 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,840 Speaker 2: their business and got a third touchdown like they should have, 1858 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:32,839 Speaker 2: then the pass rush. 1859 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: Can eat the pass rushers eating all day. 1860 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 2: You what were the numbers, six, nine and ten, six acts, 1861 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 2: nine quarterback hits, nine TFLs, ten quarterback hits. If those 1862 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,640 Speaker 2: numbers sound familiar, that's what CJ suffered in Week two 1863 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 2: against the Colts. 1864 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 1: Exact numbers six, nine and ten, six nine and ten. 1865 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 3: Each of those numbers. If you've got that double digit lead, 1866 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 3: your top thing go, yeah, you know. 1867 01:19:53,800 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 1: But at some point you gotta realize that's the guy. 1868 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 2: And I know it's a lot for a rookie to 1869 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,560 Speaker 2: have to handle, but if there's anybody that's shown that 1870 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,720 Speaker 2: he can handle it, it's him. C J. Stroud needs 1871 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 2: to be the cream of the crop player against the 1872 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,440 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 1873 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 1: And you know what, I think CJ. 1874 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,759 Speaker 2: Stroud needs to be the cream of the crop player 1875 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 2: every game for the rest of the season. You know, 1876 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 2: I understand that. You know what, like for Christmas back 1877 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 2: in the day, you got a brand new Sega Genesis. 1878 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 2: You wanted to play that thing all day and your 1879 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 2: parents are like, no, You're gonna you're gonna burn that 1880 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 2: thing out. You know you're gonna you're gonna break it 1881 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,280 Speaker 2: if you play it so much. 1882 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: No, mom, the Sega Genesis ain't gonna break. It's fine. 1883 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 2: Let me play NHL ninety three. Yeah, that's how long 1884 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 2: ago I had the Sega Genesis. You're gonna play it. 1885 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 3: You were in college, man, I know. I was in college, 1886 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 3: and I loved it. We used to play all the time. 1887 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 2: Point being, it's not gonna break if you keep protecting him, 1888 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 2: He's not gonna break, you know. 1889 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Will he throw a pick here there? Yeah, it's gonna happen. 1890 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 1: He's already. He threw one. 1891 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 2: We got it back. He threw it for a first down, 1892 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy to think about. But I 1893 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,680 Speaker 2: think for our cream of the cropper going forward, I'm 1894 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,640 Speaker 2: gonna say, CJ. Strott, what do you say, drew that 1895 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 2: stel yours? 1896 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: No, you did not. 1897 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 3: That was a good cream of the crop. The cream 1898 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 3: of the crop corollary to your genesis story. In nineteen 1899 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:19,759 Speaker 3: eighty nine, that Christmas, I got Techmobil the video game. Yeah, yeah, Christmas. 1900 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 3: The next day I had to leave for boy Scout camp. 1901 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 3: It was winter camp. It was almost like punishment. It wasn't, 1902 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 3: but it was. You know, you go for a week 1903 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 3: and you get like four or five merit badges and 1904 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 3: sort of speeds things up. But I got Techmobile, and 1905 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 3: I think I played that thing the whole because somebody 1906 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 3: was sick in our family or where we were supposed 1907 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,680 Speaker 3: to go, so we didn't. We were at home like 1908 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 3: we didn't go anywhere. It was kind of like a 1909 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 3: we got a screwball thrown our way. So I wore 1910 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 3: that thing out. And then I remember, I think the 1911 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 3: next morning before I left for camp, and the Nintendo 1912 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 3: was hooked up to my parents' television in their room, 1913 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 3: not up to the main television out in the family room. 1914 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 3: So I think they're still sleep and I go in. 1915 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, i'll be real considerate. I'll just turn 1916 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 3: the volume off and said I'm like click clicking on 1917 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 3: these these buttons. And I hear my dad sleepily say 1918 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,920 Speaker 3: can you please go do that somewhere else? And I 1919 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 3: think I did a few more times. Yeah, the considerate son, 1920 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 3: I could just hear. 1921 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: And how that would irritate parents like. 1922 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:23,559 Speaker 3: Hot pot pot pott. 1923 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 1: But that was on. 1924 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,519 Speaker 3: I had the the volume off, right, I love tech 1925 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,120 Speaker 3: bobil Yeah, but still the clicking of the buttons, that's good. 1926 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 3: Bo Jackson is, you know, greatest Technobowl player ever. Best team, 1927 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 3: though is not with Bo Jackson, was the Chicago Bears. 1928 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,799 Speaker 3: They had three fast defenders as well as Walter Payton. 1929 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 3: And then best special teams was New York Giants on 1930 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 3: that with Lawrence Taylor coming off the edge of Dicks. 1931 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 3: But anyways, my cream of the crop guys, since you 1932 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 3: took Stroud, I want to beat these guys at their 1933 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 3: own game. Baker Mayfield has been excellent this year as 1934 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 3: far as ten touchdowns, four picks. You need to pick 1935 01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 3: them off. You're not gonna get him three times like 1936 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 3: you did hisie season here, but let's get him once. 1937 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 3: Let's get a fumble. So for that Jalen Petrie Petrie 1938 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 3: play the other day where he wrecked and I mean 1939 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 3: wrecked the running back who's trying to block him. I 1940 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 3: mean just steam rolled him. 1941 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:18,679 Speaker 9: Yep. 1942 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 3: And as he's going down, you know, the running backs 1943 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 3: kind of bringing him down with him. Jalen gets his 1944 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 3: hand on the quarterback, hits his hand on Bryce Young, 1945 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,719 Speaker 3: and Young gets this deep completion up the left sideline, 1946 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 3: but it was a hair by like just by the 1947 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 3: hair of his chinny chin chin type of completion. So 1948 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 3: get there a tick earlier. That's a sack. That's a 1949 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 3: batted pass. That's an incompletion. It's basically a nullified play. Yep, 1950 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 3: let's come up with a turnover. Let's come up with 1951 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 3: a takeaway. Jalen Petrie. I think it's it's possible. I'd 1952 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 3: like it early. So you get up on these guys 1953 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 3: and you let the pass rush tee off. Let's do 1954 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 3: one of those fun kind of wire to wire wins 1955 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,320 Speaker 3: like you had against the Steelers, like it felt like 1956 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 3: you had against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Let's get going, Jalen Petrie, 1957 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 3: I am choosing you as my cream of the crop player. 1958 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 2: That is a that's a great one. That play I 1959 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 2: could see Jalen was awesome. I could see Jalen coming. 1960 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man, and I see him blast him. 1961 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 2: And then I see Bryce Young break out of there. 1962 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, dag coming. It's the one thing you couldn't 1963 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 2: let him do. 1964 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,800 Speaker 3: He still got his hand on Bryce show he. 1965 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 2: Did, and then then Bryce ended up dropping a dime 1966 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,800 Speaker 2: to a very very well covered Adam Thiele and who 1967 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,600 Speaker 2: ended up making that catch. Now the text ended up 1968 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,720 Speaker 2: getting a stop, I think on that drive at the 1969 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 2: goal line. But you're right, and I think what it? 1970 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 2: What your your decision for creamy the crop, my decision 1971 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 2: for creamy crop. 1972 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,759 Speaker 1: Are saying one thing, and that is, and we haven't 1973 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 1: had this for the last few years. I guess. 1974 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 2: The biggest stars must shine bright. And I know that's 1975 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,479 Speaker 2: a big and bright down in the heart. And like 1976 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,599 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, I'm saying that your best players 1977 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 2: have got to rise up when things are not great, 1978 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,679 Speaker 2: and those players have got to bring everything they've got 1979 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 2: and make everybody follow them. And when I think about 1980 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 2: that on both sides of the ball, I think about 1981 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 2: Jalen Petrie. 1982 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 1: I think about c J. 1983 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 2: Stroud and if you'd have told me to come up 1984 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 2: with a defensive one, I would have probably said Jalen 1985 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,560 Speaker 2: Petrie as well. For that reason, I feel like this 1986 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 2: is a stars have got to show up game. Nico 1987 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 2: big huge, c J. Stroud huge, Jalen Petrie huge, Grenard 1988 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 2: and Will Anderson huge. These stars and what people perceive 1989 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 2: to be stars on this team have got to show 1990 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 2: up and ball out. Yes, I'd like a team victory. 1991 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,720 Speaker 2: I'd like everybody to get a sack and all that. 1992 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: Two stars have got to show up and go get 1993 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:56,680 Speaker 2: you one when you need one, and you need one. 1994 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 2: On Sunday before you go to Cincinnati following week. 1995 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 3: Before we go to the interview with Henry Toto, I 1996 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,479 Speaker 3: just want to say this. I like candy corns and 1997 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:06,879 Speaker 3: I like candy corn pumpkins. 1998 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love candy corn and I love candy corn. 1999 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 2: I love Have you gotten the Brox mix? There's a yes, Okay. 2000 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,759 Speaker 2: I mean I probably didn't need to say anything. 2001 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 3: Okay. It's one of the one of the many reasons 2002 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 3: I love you and you're like a brother to me. 2003 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 3: There's just been this unfunfair crusade against this war, holy 2004 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 3: war nearly on candy corn over the last decade. Just 2005 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,639 Speaker 3: chill out, all right. I don't like it, you don't 2006 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 3: like it. Nobody's forcing you to eat it. But it's 2007 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 3: not bad. It's good. I like candy corn. 2008 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 2: I love candy corn, and I love the Brox has 2009 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 2: got a mix that's got the regular candy corn, the yellow, orange, 2010 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 2: and white. Then they've got like a fall candy corn, 2011 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 2: which is like a red and a brown, and then 2012 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:49,959 Speaker 2: they've got the candy corn pumpkins. 2013 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 3: I love them like so let me let me just 2014 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 3: everything you want. Let me take that candy corn mix 2015 01:26:55,120 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 3: and let me elevate it for you. Okay, ad peanuts 2016 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 3: like a bag of peanuts, had a bag of Raisins, 2017 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 3: had a bag of M and M's. You've got yourself 2018 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 3: a trail mix with candy corns in it, and if 2019 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,000 Speaker 3: you want to get real freaky, added a bag of 2020 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 3: Reese's pieces. Damn, that's some good stuff. 2021 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 1: That is some good stuff. Now. 2022 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: I heard a recipe the other day, and I heard it. 2023 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but I want to make sure 2024 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,439 Speaker 2: I get this right. It was candy corn bag of 2025 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,839 Speaker 2: popcorn chocolate drizzle. 2026 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 3: I don't like my popcorn. Sweet man. 2027 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you on that. I'm kind of 2028 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,960 Speaker 2: with you on that, but I'm curious. It was to 2029 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 2: a point where I like, I wanted to try it. 2030 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,719 Speaker 2: I wanted to try it pretty good, Yeah, I wanted. 2031 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 9: To try it. 2032 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 3: When I popped my popcorn bags, I eat them one 2033 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:47,519 Speaker 3: kernel at a time. 2034 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 2: I like them slightly really wow, Yeah, I gotta get 2035 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 2: a big handful because what ends up happening in the 2036 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 2: Hair's household is somebody else makes the popcorn. Now you 2037 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 2: guys can see I got I got pretty good hands 2038 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 2: if I was measure at the combine, and my hands 2039 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 2: are like ten in a quarterball bakets. So I always 2040 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 2: make people mad in my family because they get the popcorn. 2041 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I get a handful, and they're like no, 2042 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 2: because I just reach into like half the bag. 2043 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 3: One Erics with the Iron Claw. Oh, by the way, 2044 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 3: the trailer, Zach, no what, there's a trailer. I saw 2045 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 3: they were making the movie. 2046 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 2: But and Zach Effrons, after you talk to Henry, we're 2047 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,840 Speaker 2: gonna go watch the trailer. Okay, so that's the part 2048 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 2: you don't see or don't hear. Right there, we ended 2049 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 2: the end podcast right there, so thank you for listening. 2050 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,799 Speaker 2: But then I went pulled up the Iron Claw trailer 2051 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 2: and it looks awesome. I mean, if you're my demographic 2052 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,600 Speaker 2: and you grew up watching Von Erics, you gotta see it. 2053 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 7: And look. 2054 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 1: If you know the story, you know it's it's sad, 2055 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: it's emotional. 2056 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 2: But man, Zach Effron, Jeremy Allen White, those are just 2057 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 2: two of the names. I don't know who else is it. 2058 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 2: Those are the two that I recognize. It's gonna be 2059 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 2: awesome if those two are in it. My goodness, it 2060 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 2: is going to be fabulous. 2061 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:05,920 Speaker 1: If not emotional. 2062 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 2: So I understand, you gotta go see it, iron Claw. 2063 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 2: I can't believe that Drew hadn't seen that trailer yet. 2064 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,200 Speaker 2: That's a pretty emotional trailer too, so they gotta be careful. 2065 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 2: But iron Claw, I don't know when it's coming out, 2066 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 2: and they're not paying me anything to say that. I 2067 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 2: just can't wait to see how they do that movie. 2068 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 2: And I'm not at that age where movies are coming 2069 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 2: out that I can remember of, you know, where I was, 2070 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,800 Speaker 2: what I was doing, like, I can remember that real 2071 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 2: thing happening, and now movies are being made of it. 2072 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, When I moved to Texas in nineteen eighty three, 2073 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:38,720 Speaker 2: that was one of the things I used to do 2074 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,960 Speaker 2: with my two good pals, Lance and Mike Zaraline, and 2075 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 2: we'd go over there, we'd watch Saturday morning wrestling from 2076 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 2: the Sportatorium and then we'd watch Saturday night wrestling for 2077 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 2: a long time. So that kind of resonates with me, 2078 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 2: there's no question. But football resonates with me, and there's 2079 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 2: a game of Tomorrow night Steelers. 2080 01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,720 Speaker 1: Titans in Pittsburgh. 2081 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,920 Speaker 2: We've got some information about that game, one player in 2082 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 2: particular that could make a big, big. 2083 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Splash in this one. 2084 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 2: We'll get to that next In Texas All Access, we 2085 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 2: got one final segment of this initiative, Texas All Access. 2086 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, Football and a sideline reporter. 2087 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:22,559 Speaker 2: Glad you're with me each and every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday, 2088 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,560 Speaker 2: sometimes on Saturday. But I appreciate you being with me. 2089 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,640 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, especially on this show. We've had 2090 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,479 Speaker 2: a good time bringing you Nick Casserio, Indy Kolulo, Might 2091 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 2: Quinn in the lab. 2092 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,639 Speaker 1: Blaring me TONSL and dpcity was really fun. 2093 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 2: Uh, let's finish up going around the league cause there's 2094 01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,519 Speaker 2: a lot of information things happening now. The one to 2095 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:45,040 Speaker 2: night teased game tomorrow night in Pittsburgh, Titans taking on 2096 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 2: the Steelers. Titans got Will Levis going, man, they got 2097 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,719 Speaker 2: that thing rocking with Will Levis. 2098 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,040 Speaker 1: But there's some big information about this. 2099 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:57,840 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is still a two and a half point favorite, 2100 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 2: so the so Vegas feels like the Titans are editor 2101 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 2: at three and four and the Steelers at four and three, 2102 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:09,000 Speaker 2: so they're riding the Will Lewis train. However, Cam Hayward, 2103 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,519 Speaker 2: who didn't play against the Texans, is going to be 2104 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:17,480 Speaker 2: ready to roll on Thursday night. He is arguably Pittsburgh's 2105 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,800 Speaker 2: best defender outside of TJ. 2106 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,559 Speaker 1: Watt maybe Minka. 2107 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:23,320 Speaker 7: So you go TJ. 2108 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 2: Watt one, Cam Hayward two, Maca three, Alex Heismith four 2109 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,640 Speaker 2: if you were just a power rank the Steelers defenders. 2110 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 2: But they will get Cam Hayward back, so they'll have TJ. Watt, 2111 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,280 Speaker 2: Cam Hayward, Alex Highsmith. Sounds like no, makea Fitzpatrick for 2112 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,640 Speaker 2: this one. He injured a hamstring chasing around one of 2113 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 2: the Jaguars receivers last week in a twenty to ten 2114 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 2: loss with the Steelers. So need the Steelers on Thursday night. 2115 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,679 Speaker 2: They came up big in prime time, beating the Browns 2116 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 2: when we needed it. Now they got to knock off 2117 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 2: the Titans and Will Levis. I'm kind of excited to 2118 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,639 Speaker 2: see the Titans, though I haven't really had a chance 2119 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,200 Speaker 2: to watch them much with games every week, and then 2120 01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:58,880 Speaker 2: they were gonna buy the same week we were gonna buy, 2121 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,760 Speaker 2: so they didn't get to see them much. 2122 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:02,040 Speaker 1: But I'm curious. 2123 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, I was threw four touchdowns, could have had a 2124 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,880 Speaker 2: better debut, but he will now have to face the 2125 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Steelers with TJ. Watt, Alex Highsmith and Cam Hayward. Steelers, 2126 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 2: go get it done. 2127 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:15,599 Speaker 1: All right. 2128 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:21,760 Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons made an announcement. Arthur Smith said, it's 2129 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,600 Speaker 2: Taylor Heinekey against the Minnesota Vikings. Now there's been a 2130 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:30,080 Speaker 2: little bit of controversy about this from a number of 2131 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 2: different avenues. There's talk about Desmond Ritter being hurt last 2132 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 2: week against the Titans and then getting cleared but not 2133 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:39,800 Speaker 2: quite right to go back in the game, and so 2134 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 2: they decided to stick with Heineke. And I don't know, 2135 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I just know that Arthur Smith 2136 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,680 Speaker 2: announced today that Taylor Heinekey will start for the Atlanta Falcons, 2137 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 2: with Desmond Ritters serving as the backup. Arthur Smith told 2138 01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,559 Speaker 2: the assembled media, and I quote just for this week, 2139 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,760 Speaker 2: just with all the variables, just kind of considering everything 2140 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,880 Speaker 2: in last seventy two hours and what we feel is 2141 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,360 Speaker 2: best for this week against Minnesota. 2142 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Taylor will play this week. So hmm, interesting things in Atlanta. 2143 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:11,640 Speaker 2: I've said all along if I felt like Atlanta was 2144 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,519 Speaker 2: gonna end up with a quarterback, Look, you try out 2145 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 2: your third rounder, you give him an opportunity, you see 2146 01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,599 Speaker 2: what he can do. And if you don't like it, well, 2147 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four draft has got a ton of quarterbacks, 2148 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 2: A ton, I mean a ton, and Alanta's gonna be 2149 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,280 Speaker 2: able to get themselves a good quarterback. 2150 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:32,880 Speaker 1: Now. They could also trade for one. 2151 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 2: They could also maybe, I don't know, look at Jimmy Garoppolo, 2152 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,840 Speaker 2: because it sounds like Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna have some 2153 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,880 Speaker 2: time in his hands because he has been benched. We 2154 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 2: talked about it earlier. Raiders making moves last night, probably 2155 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 2: around I don't know midnight here. Fired Josh mcdanie's head coach, 2156 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,719 Speaker 2: fired GM David Ziggiler, fired Mick Lombardi, the offensive coordinator. 2157 01:33:55,600 --> 01:34:00,639 Speaker 2: In their stead, Antonio Pierce steps out as the interim 2158 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 2: head coach. One of the first moves they have made 2159 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,800 Speaker 2: Aiden O'Connell the starter for the Raiders going forward. 2160 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Now. 2161 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:13,639 Speaker 2: There have been some some jokes, some thoughts that Raiders 2162 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,880 Speaker 2: management upper management I e. 2163 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,960 Speaker 1: The Davis family, I e. Mark Davis pushed for this. 2164 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no idea. 2165 01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,560 Speaker 2: I quite honestly think gave O'Connell's the best quarterback the 2166 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,000 Speaker 2: Raiders have, and I'm surprised in some sense that they 2167 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 2: didn't go to him earlier. But either way, Jimmy Garoppolo 2168 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,759 Speaker 2: bench six starts into his tenure, couldn't stay healthy, wasn't consistent. 2169 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,439 Speaker 2: So now they go Aidan O'Connell. Connell started once this 2170 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 2: year against the Chargers. He went twenty four to twenty 2171 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 2: nine two hundred and thirty eight yards. He did have 2172 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,639 Speaker 2: an interception, and it was a twenty four to seventeen 2173 01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,479 Speaker 2: loss for the Raiders. We'll see what Aidan O'Connell's got. 2174 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,560 Speaker 2: There are a lot of scouts that thought he was 2175 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 2: kind of a poor man's Jared Goff. Well, I know 2176 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,880 Speaker 2: one scout that said that was me. I said that, 2177 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 2: and I think he's pretty solid. 2178 01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 1: He's great. 2179 01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 2: Curious to see how the Raiders fail with Aidan O'Connell 2180 01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 2: as the starter there at that particular point. Trades yesterday, 2181 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 2: all kinds of them going on. You had Chase Young 2182 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,679 Speaker 2: going out to the forty nine ers. You had Montes 2183 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,800 Speaker 2: Sweat leaving Washington as well going to the Chicago Bears. 2184 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,919 Speaker 2: Russell Douglas ended up going from the Packers to the Bills. 2185 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,840 Speaker 2: The Vikings made a deal for Josh Dobbs with with 2186 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins sideline, So a lot of things happening in 2187 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,080 Speaker 2: and around the trade deadline. So this is gonna be 2188 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,840 Speaker 2: an interesting week to see how many of those guys 2189 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 2: get on the field. 2190 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,240 Speaker 1: And do anything anything for their teams this week. 2191 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,600 Speaker 2: So I'm probably curious most about Dobbs and what he 2192 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,920 Speaker 2: does with the Vikings. 2193 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: Does he start, do they go with Jaron Hall? 2194 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 2: I think Jaron Hall has been announced as a starter, 2195 01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,240 Speaker 2: but does Dobbs get on the field for that. 2196 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 1: Particular week, I don't know. 2197 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,000 Speaker 2: We'll see a lot of things going on in the NFL, 2198 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,720 Speaker 2: and it's always fun to talk about it with you. 2199 01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,639 Speaker 1: So thank you for being with me. We will see 2200 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 1: you next time. 2201 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,599 Speaker 2: A big thanks to everybody participating on the show, everybody 2202 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,400 Speaker 2: who listened to the show, anybody followed along. 2203 01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,800 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for see you next time and 2204 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:04,880 Speaker 1: as always, go Texans.