1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Chris Stedman. I'm an author, activist, and I 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: teach in a department of religion and philosophy. I can be, 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: as he might be able to guess from all of that, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: a little too serious sometimes. Back in two thousand nine, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: I met a guy named Alex. He definitely wasn't too serious. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I a little on our little pol tour. I will 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: throw a foul pool Comma Hollows. He was unlike anyone 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: I'd ever met. I'm looking tornado chasing in East Colorado 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: and a tornado just hit the ground fifteen miles away. 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm a big boy. I'm a scientist. I'm 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: a meteorologist, a true individual, entirely and unapologetically himself. I 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: think Alex is probably the most anthentic person that anyone 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: who has ever come across, but definitely me, I could 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: say that for sure. Alex completely changed my life, as 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: he did for everyone who ever met him. Everybody was 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: so conventional and like no one did anything ever to 17 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: like shake it up, and then Alex cable off. He 18 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: really shook up my whole world. Ten years later, in 19 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Alex shook up our worlds again when he sent out 20 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: a handful of scheduled emails saying he had ended his life. 21 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: This person who had changed my whole world was suddenly 22 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: no longer in it, and I couldn't understand how it 23 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: had happened or why. But he left something behind for me, 24 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: a small detail near the end of his email that 25 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: at first appeared random and trivial, a link to a 26 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: private SoundCloud page. When I opened the link, I found 27 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: two audiophiles of him talking to someone he had met 28 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: in a Britney Spears fan for him almost a decade earlier, 29 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: someone who went by the name Alice and who happens 30 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: to sound just like Britney Spears. If I ever said 31 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: her name, yeah would Alex was obsessed with Brittany Wing. 32 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I know you kind of clue what to do with 33 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: But he wasn't just a fan. She was everything to him. 34 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Her life choices were like not only hilarious and like 35 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: entertaining to him, but also so relatable and like. I 36 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: think that he felt like he knew her and that 37 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: they were friends or something. You know. At first, the 38 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: idea that they actually might have been friends seemed too 39 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: unreal to be true, But then Alex was totally unreal 40 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: in the weeks after his death, I couldn't stop wondering 41 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: why Alex left me these clips, And despite my immense 42 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: seriousness and skepticism about most things in life, I also 43 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: couldn't stop wondering if the person in these audio files 44 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: might have actually possibly been Brittany. Either way, it began 45 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: to feel clear that Alex, including these files and his 46 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: email to me wasn't random. I think that, like, there's 47 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: a reason why he left you those files. I don't 48 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: know if I can exactly like pinpoint what it is, 49 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: but I mean, it'll be cool if we could find out. 50 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: So I went looking for answers, enlisting the help of 51 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: a super sleuth. Can you would teach me how to 52 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: be an investigative journalist in like the next thirty minutes. 53 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: That'd be super helpful. Yes, I can. Anybody who lives 54 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: on the Internet right now is probably decent at searching 55 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: for stuff. You could do it. A fellow Britney fan 56 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: who also talked to Alice, I remember you would go 57 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: to tiny Chet because you just wanted to spend some 58 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: time at the time. This girl she would come in, 59 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: and she sounded exactly like Britney would. And the thing 60 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: that really was fun and she never claimed to be Brittany, 61 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: which only like gave her credit to be Brittany. She 62 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: would come in and she would just talk random everyday stuff. 63 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: She would love as Brittney. She would be as Brittney 64 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: you know everything, signature she would do. A former MTVVJ 65 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: who was on the ground floor for Britney's meteoric rise. 66 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: I can absolutely see someone like her who's face and 67 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: name and image. She's a little bit lost control of 68 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: talking anonymously to somebody and saying what she really thinks, 69 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: in not having to second guess it, and figuring out 70 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: who she is outside of the industry that has sprung 71 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: up around her name. Yeah, I mean that. That actually 72 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: seems really healthy. And a small group of people who 73 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: got emails from Alex to his sister and some of 74 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: his best friends. They quickly became my inner circle after 75 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: he died, and they both encouraged me to go looking 76 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: for this mysterious figure and helped me along the way. 77 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: People are very passionate over this. That was one thing 78 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I found. There are a lot of posts for someone 79 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: just asks who has banana alice, and it's pretty hilarious 80 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: to see. There are so many passionate responses saying it's 81 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: not Brittany, this was from so long ago. It's just 82 00:05:52,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: someone pretending who cares. Leave it alone. Unread as a 83 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: show about trying to find your way after losing someone 84 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: who changed your whole world, especially when they've left a 85 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: digital trail behind full of bread crumbs that might add 86 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: up to something or might not mean anything at all. 87 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Where with the trail Alex left leave me? Do you 88 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: feel like that name of Charlie and always studying in 89 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: Philadelphia in the office, surrounded by like putting strings in 90 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: between one of my favorite teams ever. And that's the 91 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: kind of belly picture you making this podcast? On June tenth, 92 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: join me as I go down the rabbit Hole on Unread. 93 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: All four episodes dropped that day. Listen and subscribe to 94 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: Unread on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or 95 00:06:45,960 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: wherever you get your favorite shows for two