WEBVTT - The Flow, the Magic & the Poetry 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:06.760 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.880 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Shoe, Getty. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:17.840 Armstrong and Getty and no He Armstrong and Eddy. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.160 The US response has increased intensity eight times as many 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.600 targets were hit compared to the last time the US 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.360 responded to Iran firing on ships in the Strait. The 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.160 targets include some sixty Revolutionary Guards small boats. Sencom also 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.400 says the strikes included defense systems, command and control networks, 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.879 coastal radar sites, and anti ship capabilities. And we have 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.440 video of the US strikes hitting in Bandarabas. Iran responded 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.199 by firing into their neighbors Kuwait and Bahrain. The official 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.800 Iranian news agency claims to have hit some eighty five 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.880 targets in those countries. Details on the number of targets 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.760 are not confirmed by other sources. But sirens sounded in 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:01.040 Await and boff rang. 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.000 No, this isn't a rerun. We aren't still on vacation 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.640 and you're listening to old shows. We are back and 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.720 this is new. We are back at war with Iran. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.800 It would seem Iran struck several ships in the Strait 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.480 violating the MoU According to Trump, which he says is 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.760 now dead. We hit ran pretty hard. I guess we'll 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.680 find out how hard when we ask Mike lines here 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.880 in a second. And then Iran struck the countries around 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.960 them as they like to do. Where it goes from now, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.880 I do not know. Welcome Mike Lyons to the Armstrong 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.760 Engetty Show again. Mike served with various military organizations in 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.480 both the United States and Europe throughout his career. Got 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.320 his degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.360 Hey, Mike, what did you think of that? How big 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.000 a deal was this? How hard to strike? 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.240 Was this just a like a little love tap to 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:52.680 let you know we're still paying attention? 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.840 Or did we hit them hard? Yeah? Thanks for having 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:55.160 me back. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.160 I've always thought that this has been the end of 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.960 escalation management from the very beginning sort of. I published 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.000 an article and were journal about that, and sent Com 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.560 is reporting eighty targets hit with precision munition. So this 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.320 is not a proportional response back. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:10.320 This is not a pit for. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.360 Tat what we had been doing good in the past, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.600 and so I think that that's a good sign. I 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.679 do believe now it just gets back to you know, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.480 what are those targets. It looks like Iranian air defense systems, 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.280 command and control networks, the coastal radar sites, those are 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.560 so key. It looks like some of their anti ship 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.920 messile capabilities now are more out in the open and 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.120 around Revolutionary Guard Corps. I mean the small boat. You know, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.520 it just shows you the target rich environment. It is 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.920 from a military perspective. When we stop, probably stops too soon, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.000 and it looks like our response back is disproportional. 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.080 Well, Trump just said a few minutes ago, we're probably 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.080 going to hit them hard again tonight. So you're saying 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.359 there's plenty of stuff. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.760 To hit, Yeah, no question, And I think you know 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.440 we were. You've got to figure out a way still 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.280 to you know, make sure that it's it's not completely 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.240 destroyed when the country's you know, when we finally move 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.440 this thing forward. And so I'm for this, you know, 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.640 this preparable deterrence going after some of their revenue capabilities, 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.800 but not necessarily destroying you know, entire oil fields and 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.080 entire things. But but there are quasi military targets that 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.760 would make them very easy to repair when the time comes, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.720 but set them back when it comes to trying to 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.280 raise revenue and things like that. So there's there's still 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.840 many military targets to hit, many many to go after, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.320 and we're at the cleanup phase of that now, I think. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.239 So there was some reporting over the weekend that Trump 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.640 had decided a while back we were going to use 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.800 our military and force that straight back open, and Saudi 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.040 Arabia talked him out of it. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.720 Uh So, I guess that still might be on the. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.520 Table if Iran's not willing to you know, stop firing 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:46.120 on ships. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.080 Yeah, that would really ramp up with our off tempo, 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.520 the pace that our military is working. We'd have to 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.680 bring maybe some more destroyers and cruisers into the into 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.720 the region, even though we have three terriers strike groups 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.040 right now that they're more focused on the aircraft and 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.960 the carriers themselves. But that's you know, a mission that 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.440 we could do. It could take months, but it means 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.200 really softening up any of the coastal batteries that seem 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.120 to exist that are there, the fact that they can 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.600 get off any shots whatsoever, either using drones or any 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.360 kind of you know, precision munitions to show they still 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:22.200 have this capability. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.440 Well, Trump's over there talking to all the NATO leaders 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.200 the big NATO meeting, and the NATO Secretary General said 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:35.159 this morning that what the United States did was perfectly appropriate, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.120 had to be done, I mean, and that's not the 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.680 way NATO's really been talking about this whole Iran operation 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.720 the whole time. So is there any chance we get 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.800 any help from any of our NATO allies on this 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:45.840 at this point? 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:46.200 Yeah? 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.680 You know, Mark Brute's influence on Trump, to me, is 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.640 a masterclass and how to manage him? Right. All these 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.800 other NATO leaders are just can't manage Trump, right. McCrone 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.799 thinks he's smarter than him. You know. The Germans tried, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.520 you know, to be more technical. Let's say Keir Starmer. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.240 That's you know, he failed miserably. But I think I 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.640 think Route cracks the code. He validates them publicly. As 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.599 soon as Trump got on with that. The MoU Is 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.480 over Route couldn't say it any quicker. I'm with you 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.159 in the same breath, right, So very clearly he's because 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.280 a Trump whisper when it comes to that. Now, the 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.960 downside is that he's really only managing him. He's not, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.480 you know, maybe not advising him, but he at least 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.920 speaks his language. He's not trying to be Macron, He's 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.599 not trying to be some other UH leader that that's 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.560 trying to be Trump's peer. He lets he lets kind 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.320 of Trump be Trump. And I think from what we 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:37.760 are right now, I think that's still a good thing. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.000 I think it's a good thing for NATO. I think 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.320 it's going to keep you, you know, well in sant 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:41.680 of NATO. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.440 Trump's talking as we're talking to you, so he's saying 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.640 more things like we may put the blockade on the 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.039 Straight of Hormuz back in place, so we might be 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.240 back right back to where we were two and a 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.080 half weeks ago by the end of tonight. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.840 Yeah, the whip song is challenging to the military, going 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:03.919 back back and forth again. The blockade just means repositioning 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.320 some of those ships. I think most of the military 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.440 community that I had spoken to didn't think we had 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.080 finished the job, so to speak. We gave the president 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.600 enough leverage to start to talk. I think he needed 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.560 that for making sure that oil prices didn't go crazy, 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.680 and he was keeping one eye on the politics of this. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.240 But I think those in the military we felt that 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.760 it really wasn't finished that this campaign should have gone 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.280 on longer than thirty seven days is really what it 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.160 went on for. I should have went on at least 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.440 forty five, even sixty. It should have had a better 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.599 logical conclusion with a clear sign of the US victory. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.920 Well, the Wall Street journals reporting today is that they 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:43.200 were making no progress whatsoever, like zero on the whole 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.039 details around nuclear weapons, which was what the whole war 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.800 was about. So which doesn't surprise me in the least. So, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.800 what's the worst case scenario? Worst case scenario obviously is 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.600 that Oram gets a nuclear weapon, but we prosecute this war. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.760 We need to go forward and put pressure on us. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.719 What what should we watch out for that could go wrong? 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.800 Well, you know that they had some kind of internal 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.120 revolution and that you have this humanitarian crisis that exists 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.160 inside that the country because it implosed United States gets 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.200 blamed for that or something. I think I don't think 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.720 we have to worry about. You know, there's potentially some 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.360 of our military targets, but there's not a situation that 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.240 I could see that we're in trouble now unless the 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.440 Chinese decide to enter the fixture of they decide, which 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.320 I think should have been part of the MoU anyway, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.600 I think that we should have made sure that no 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.760 other countries were going to come in and assist a Ron. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.080 You know that that MoU is all front loaded for 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:43.920 the Iranians. It was you know, all the all the 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.760 United States activities were on the back side of it. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.520 We don't want the Chinese in there, we don't want 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.080 any other countries in there, and we often need stronger 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.080 Gulf states to make sure that they're focused on making 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.760 sure we take this to the end. But but what 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.600 goes wrong? I think the real the real challenge would 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.000 be more inside of Iran humanitarian crisis. Ninety million people 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.760 will have to feed and keep water, and if the 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.360 Ranian government collapses, you know, how do they do that? 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.480 Yeah, that's a good point. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.760 So also part of the Wall Street General Reporting day 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.400 was that Iran has gotten back a fair amount of 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.480 their capability. Was that with the help of China and Russia, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.920 that they rebuilt all that stuff. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.280 I think they just basically took it out of the mountains, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.119 and they had a lot to begin with. And again 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.920 from a scale perspective, they still can't deploy hundreds at 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.560 a time. But when you have a lot when you sneak, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.360 you know, take a thousand rockets, let's say, or a 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.280 thousand missiles and hide them in the mountains and hide 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.280 them in places if you look at the geography of Iran, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.720 easy to do. And all that they're doing now is 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.280 just deploying those that are out there. So that's where 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.760 there's more targets for us to kind of go after. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.600 I think that's really what happened. There's no industrial capability 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.560 to fix anything that's not really on the table. It's 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.720 the fact that just shows you the level of ballistic 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.079 missile capability. They always had tens of thousands of missiles 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.800 that they had that had built them, been ready for 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:05.200 the site. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.000 Are any of those countries surrounding around that keep getting 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.960 hit by the Iranians going to finally like really join 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.000 us in this battle. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.280 Well that's another great question. And you know, it just 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:23.079 shows you how Middle Eastern politics are, you know more 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.880 in some ways based on religion. A lot of it 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.920 has to do with that, you know, the Shia Sunni 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.560 divide that exists in that part of the world, and 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.600 so that they you know, you can't change the geography, right, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.959 I mean, Katar and the UAE are doing what they 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.640 can to avoid the straits, right. They're building tunnels and 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.480 things like that, but they should have been building them 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.480 before the thought he's already did that. They've got a 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.120 pipeline going to the Red Sea. But the politics are 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.040 just not what we're used to, and that they have 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.320 to they recognize that there are what they are. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.400 Well, I have a feeling there's a chance we might 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.960 be talking to you again later this week after a 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.960 couple of more rounds of strug. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.720 Mike's in Iran Mike Lyons military analyst. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.959 You can follow him on Twitter at m A j 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.480 is in Major at Major m Aj Mike Lyons, I 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.640 go there whenever something happens to see what you thought 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.640 about it. Thanks Mike, Thanks for av me the war's 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.240 back on. I think clearly, well, let's play this just 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.000 because we got a moment. Find my sheet. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:32.600 Here, play play forty two to me, I. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.040 Think it's over. I don't want to deal with them 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.040 with this gum. You know what scum is there? Gum, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.440 there's sick people. They're led by six people. There's something 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:47.480 wrong with them. They're cuckoo. Far as I'm concerned, it's over. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.960 That he was asked about the MoU, the memorandum of 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.400 Understanding that you know, brought about the sixty day cease 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.000 fire and they get their money back before we start 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.680 the nuclear talks, which never happened. Shock shock shock. Trump's 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.440 saying it's over. They're cuckoo, It's over. I hope he 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.199 means it, because he says this sort of stuff about 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.760 Putin or the Mullahs or the IRGC, and then you know, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.280 by the end of the day he'll say, no, he 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.280 talked to do a guy, and he sounds like he's 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.079 a it's really exciting. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:18.360 JD. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.280 Vans will come out and say, you know, it's really cool, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.000 is they they now understand that they've been doing the 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.920 wrong thing all these years, which was just the lamest 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:32.960 thing that has ever come out of Jade Vance's mouth. Oh, anyway, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.000 does Trump change his tune on this? I do not 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.160 know if we'll have more on this topic a little 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.439 bit later, partially because Trump's talking about it as we speak. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.200 So we got other. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.560 Stuff on the way. I want to get to we 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.800 didn't play enough of the mom Donnie fourth of July address. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.880 I've got some stuff on exercise, a little more on 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.680 that sleep study that I wanted to get to, so 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:56.720 stick around please. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.360 I don't know if it's a game or a match. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.520 Do you called a soccer game or a soccer match 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.080 or can you use both? Anyway, A number of people 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.080 are calling it one of the best of those that's 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.880 ever occurred in the World Cup. Yesterday, Argentina, the defending 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.240 World Cup champ, was down to nothing at like the 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.480 eighty minute mark. They play ninety minutes, which is way 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.800 too many minutes for me. So I had heard that 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.080 Argentina made a comeback in the last ten minutes, which 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.439 they did. They came back and they won three to two, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:41.280 including their star player Lionel Messi, who's considered by many 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.079 people to be the greatest soccer player of all time. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.000 And he's old now and he's this would be his 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.440 last World Cup, so he scores one of the games. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.280 So I did watch in real time the last ten 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.320 or so minutes of the dang thing, and it was very, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:53.000 very exciting. 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:54.000 It was too nothing. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.679 Egypt, it was good about to pull off one of 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.000 the great upsets in World Cup history, and Argentina comes back. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.760 But I got a couple of goal calls here for 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.439 you they're both in Spanish. This one is from I 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.640 don't remember what channel from this is from, but this 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:32.559 is on one of the goals help us out. It's 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.680 because they don't have other sports they care about in 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.400 these countries that they get so excited. I mean, MESSI 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.600 was just bawling like a child, just crying his eyes 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.480 out because it would have been the end of his 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.719 World Cup career had they lost, and it looked like 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.040 they were going to lose, and they came back and won, 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.400 and we just we have so many sports in year 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:50.880 round and move from this and that. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:51.640 I mean, I get. 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.640 Excited too, But man, they act like their lives on 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.080 the line for these things. And I still contend that 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.880 if we cared about soccer and our best players played soccer, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.360 we would dominate soccer around the world. Can you imagine 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.480 if Steph Curry had played soccer? 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:06.880 Uh? 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.560 Anyway, that's ugly American talk right there. I heard this one. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.080 I like this one from Telemundo because the guy gets 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.040 so excited he just runs out of gas. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:55.280 No Messy, right, are you okay? Sir Canino? 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.760 See how emotionally good about this. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.160 It's a bigger deal to them than it is to 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:11.920 us for whatever reason. Guy, Oh, it was exciting. Like 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.080 I said, though I'm understanding it more and I'm able 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.960 to watch it a little more. Oh I'm I did 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.240 say earlier. So thirty three million people tuned into USA Belgium, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:23.960 which we lost. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:25.000 We looked horrible. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.760 Biggest US crowd for soccer ever in the history of 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.240 the sport, thirty three million people. We got this text. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.360 Maybe the thirty three million people watching the soccer is 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.560 a true barometer of how many people came into the 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.960 country illegally when Biden was in charge. You might be 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.240 right about that. Maybe that's just because we let in 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.680 so many people from other countries where they care about soccer. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.320 I can't imagine myself watching the full ninety minutes. So 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:57.240 it's just I I'm trying to buy into what I 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.000 see about the poetry of the game and the rhythm 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.560 that you get used to of the moving the ball 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.880 up and down the field, and then the rare scoring 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.000 moments being so much more important than in our stupid 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.520 American sports, where you score every two minutes and scores 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:15.320 no matter. Using their words, not mine, but I just 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.440 haven't been able to get into the flow of the 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.440 magic of the poetry of the game or whatever. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:20.120 It just looks to. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:26.240 Me like hockey on grass. Where So Argentina the defending 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.720 world champions. So they scored two goals last night, and 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.360 I think they've had ten World Cup games in a 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.160 row where they've scored two goals or more, which is 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:42.600 the all time record. Two goals in an hour and 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.680 a half is just not enough action for me. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.520 I don't know, and I'm not part of the TikTok generation. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.480 It's just I need a little more out of my sport. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.360 But anyway, that one was exciting and I watched it. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.280 And how many people are gonna watch now that the 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.160 United States is out? I don't know if the ratings 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.000 will drop of I don't know if I'll watch anymore. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.640 I suppose I will, or maybe I won't, or maybe 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.320 I'll catch the highlights. So I want to finish up 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.359 on the sleep study they had in the New York Times, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.359 combined with an exercise thing that they've got. This is 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.320 all the latest information meta studies with many, many thousands 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.919 of people. I really think this is valuable information worth hearing. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.960 Coming up, Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.320 There's a new Dolly parton musical apparently is it going 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:34.640 to be on Broadway about her life. I've always liked 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.639 Dolly Parton since I was a little kid, But I 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.840 feel like enough with Dolly Parton already. Just I don't know, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.520 she's the new Betty White. She's an old person that 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.399 we're all supposed to just be enthralled with constantly. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.800 Eh, I'm not eight, non Dolly Parton. Just enough with 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:50.960 Dolly Parton already. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:58.320 So I took a graduate statistics class many years ago 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.640 in college, and luckily I had a very very good 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.280 teacher who hammered the point home all of the time. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.920 He would hit you with a number, new study says, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.359 blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, let's think about 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.359 that for a second. And he would delve into all 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:22.439 of the reasons why the stat that came out of 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:28.320 this particular study may be incredibly misleading. And he did 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.480 that with everything that was like his main thing, which 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.720 I think was good because Joe always quotes the famous 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:42.040 Mark Twain saying about statistics, there's three kinds of lies, lies, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.120 damned lies, and statistics. Because it's really easy to tell 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.280 any kind of story you want to tell with statistics 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:52.920 for all the reasons we're about to get into here. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.560 But so I like doing that and I think it's helpful, 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.280 and the media does a terrible job of that. Part 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.639 of it is the clicks world, so that if you 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.640 have a study that says, and we talked about this 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.159 a couple of months back, because it was a New 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:14.840 York Times article, swimming much less beneficial as an exercise 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:21.080 than running, way more people die doing swimming as an 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:25.000 exercise is running incredibly misleading headline. But that's all the 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.760 further you get with most mainstream media coverage. They give 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.560 you a thirty second version and then they move on 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.399 and you're incredibly misinformed. You'd have been better off if 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.400 you hadn't heard the story at all. We'll get into 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.359 that particular thing here in just a little bit, but 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.119 I started on the sleep thing last hour, and I 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.480 wanted to pay that off. I like meta analysis, and 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:44.920 this is what they are doing in the New York 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.199 Times with this doctor over the weekend. That's when you 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:52.200 look at lots of different studies or lots of different 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.960 big studies, and you put it all. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.760 Together and you kind of go from there. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.720 As opposed to one PhD did a small study at 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.919 a university somewhere and they can't replicate it, which is 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.000 the sort of thing that gets repeated in the media 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.680 all the time that stuff is practically worthless. These are 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:15.040 meta studies, and with these metas studies, they found that 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:20.480 the highest mortality rates were with people who sleep nine 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.639 to eleven hours a night. Eight hours is not the 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:28.760 magic number. Risk doesn't really rise much below eight until 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.920 you get down to below six. You have to get 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.000 less than six hours of sleep before you start to 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:40.760 match the death rate of people mortality risk health risk 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.400 of people who sleep nine to eleven hours, So between 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.240 like six and a half and. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:49.920 Nine, it's all. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.119 About the same and it just depends on different people 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.600 have different amounts they need. And this was good news 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.639 to me because I get between six and a half seven. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.760 That's about what I live with. That's what I feel 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:03.439 best with, and it says here that's perfectly fun. But 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.639 when you're getting into the stuff I'm talking about on 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:07.680 how you can be misled about these sorts of things 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.919 is why do people in the nine to eleven hours 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.320 a night category have worse health outcomes world There's all 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:20.800 kinds of different reasons. Perhaps if you're sleeping that much, 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.520 it's because you're depressed. Perhaps, if you're sleeping that much, 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.720 it's because you've got some sort of injury or sickness 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.320 that causes you to sleep that much. That has nothing 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.159 to do with how much you sleep. It just it 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.960 keeps you in bed a lot more. You know, it's 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.600