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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. It's a betting pros college football preview show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Scott BOGMANNA follow me on the Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Bogman Sports. I have two awesome CFB experts to

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Speaker 1: join me on the show. Last year it was just

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Speaker 1: me and Thor at thor Ku on the Twitter. Thor

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Speaker 1: looking skinny, my friends, well lost some weightness offseason? Looking good,

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Speaker 1: my man?

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Speaker 2: Have you been doing good anything to prepare for the

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Speaker 2: college football season. So we were in the meat lockers,

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Speaker 2: punching the meat slabs and everything like that, running up

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Speaker 2: mountains and whatnot. But had a good Week one. We

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Speaker 2: went three and one against the spread. I have forgiven

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Speaker 2: Gavin Hardison and Dan and dem out there to anyone

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Speaker 2: that's wondering. And I'm excited to handicap this Week one

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Speaker 2: slate as well.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun one joining us this year.

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Speaker 1: Mike Farrell at m farrell Sports on the Twitter machine

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Speaker 1: to ours two. L's Mike, happy to have you ready

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Speaker 1: for the college football season. I'm sure you are locked

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Speaker 1: in and ready to go, my friend, right.

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Speaker 4: I am ready. I didn't do as well as I

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Speaker 4: didn't do as well as or did last week, but

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to de bounce back a little bit. I

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Speaker 4: mean the Notre Dame. Things started off great and we

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Speaker 4: get the first touchdown score, we nailed the spread, and

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Speaker 4: to get a little wonky after that with U Mass

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Speaker 4: actually winning a football.

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Speaker 3: They did, they won a game.

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Speaker 1: It's done to everyone and a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: putting money on you Mass this week, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: But that's another show for another time. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask both of you. Mike, I'll start with you on

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Speaker 1: this one. The two things coming into the season that

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people well, I guess just

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Speaker 1: one big adjustment that needs to be made overall is

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Speaker 1: the clock. Right, It's no longer stopping when you get

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Speaker 1: a first down unless it's within the last two minutes

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Speaker 1: of each half, so the clock keeps running.

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Speaker 3: Which affects totals of course.

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Speaker 1: And my other question is for early in the season,

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Speaker 1: in Week one, are you more likely to bet totals

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Speaker 1: than spreads because of the unknown or is it just Hey,

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Speaker 1: I like a number, I bet the number.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what week it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm more of a number guy. I'll take the side

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Speaker 4: if I feel strongly about it. The over under is tough.

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Speaker 4: I mean with the clock changes. But you look at

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Speaker 4: some of these games. You know, I'm fifty six to

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Speaker 4: twenty eight USC VERSUS Ana, say State the Notre Name game,

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Speaker 4: I believe came in on the under, but it was

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Speaker 4: very close or rate at that number, so it's tough.

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Speaker 4: I would match the under if you're really torn you

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Speaker 4: want to bet that because I think they still have

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Speaker 4: to adjust for the crime differences. We don't know what

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Speaker 4: it's going to do to the points, and either do

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Speaker 4: the experts in Vegas. So you know, if you're leaning

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Speaker 4: early in the season, go under. But I'm more of

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Speaker 4: a I'll take a side. I don't care. Yeah, really

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Speaker 4: know what to expect because that's the fun of gambling.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna, you know, stay away from

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Speaker 4: I think a team, you know, might not be ready.

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Speaker 4: At San Diego State Ohio we had work. I was

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Speaker 4: on Ohio. He gets hurt early. Sure, I took the side.

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Speaker 4: It's gambling. It's the way it goes. But I'm not

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Speaker 4: die away from the side on.

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Speaker 1: That got same question for you week one. Do you

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Speaker 1: make any differences or are you betting totals more than

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Speaker 1: your betting spreads, and also the clock adjustments. How has

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Speaker 1: that affected you in your system.

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Speaker 2: I'm more of a spread better myself. I do have

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Speaker 2: total bets, but you know, I've always just been more

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Speaker 2: natural handicapping the sides of it. So I would say

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Speaker 2: one of my four picks was an over under. That

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Speaker 2: enough to hit the under. My system had that one

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Speaker 2: think there is some value out there, you know, for instance,

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Speaker 1: In right exactly. So just a couple of adjustments to

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Speaker 1: make here early. That that's all. But let's dive in here, fellas.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Thursday. And normally we're going to go

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Speaker 1: with number fourteen, Utah versus Florida. The line here is

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Speaker 1: Florida by six and a half. The over is forty

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Speaker 1: Utah Ver's Florida the rematch of last year's game that

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Speaker 2: rising status is for this game. This line, this isn't

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Speaker 2: the most pessimistic the market was about whether Rising was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, I can probably not gonna know right because

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Speaker 4: I gotta referendum forget you thor it. First of all,

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Speaker 4: Cam Rising quoted is feeling pretty damn good right now,

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Speaker 4: which is no. That's Kim Rising speaker. He's going to play,

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Speaker 4: He's not cleared. I know he's not determined as the starter.

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Speaker 4: But this team. First of all, I was pretty angry

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Speaker 4: You know you're not gonna have Anthony Richardson doing his

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Speaker 4: I think honestly to take it now because if Cam

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Speaker 4: Wednesday or Thursday, the line's going to pop up to nine.

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Speaker 4: So I would take the six and a half right now,

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Speaker 1: track of all of your bets. Let's go over to

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Speaker 1: the other Thursday game, the late one Minnesota. I don't

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Speaker 1: actually don't know if which one is later, but Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Mike will start with you on this one.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel between the Golden Gophers and the

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Speaker 4: You know, seven is a tough line. If I'm a

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Speaker 4: you know, Minnesota fan, I don't like that, even if

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Speaker 4: I'm a Homer. You know, you look at these teams,

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Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be kind of an ugly game.

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Speaker 4: I'm leaning more towards the under here even you know,

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Speaker 4: Minnesota likes to line up their big five, nasty, huge

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Speaker 4: I think you're gonna see it at least low piece game.

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Speaker 4: And I don't like the seven. I mean, you give

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Speaker 4: taking Nebraska because I think Matt Will makes that much

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Speaker 4: some roster talent. But give me the under on this one.

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Speaker 4: I think you're going to see an ugly game.

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Speaker 3: Thora what are your thoughts on this one?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in the building, so I'm nice. I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely excited for that, excited for the Thursday night, and

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Speaker 2: excited to see the Matt Reorld debut at Nebraska. I

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Speaker 2: don't see a ton of line value. I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 2: Like I got Gophers minus seven point one, so where

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Speaker 2: the Vegas number is, I'm probably gonna wet my beak

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Speaker 2: though on the Gophers in this game and the reason

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Speaker 2: why it's a fad of Matt rule year one, just

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Speaker 4: But it's unfair, unfair on It's not it's.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna take a little while. Minnesota is the better

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Speaker 1: By hopefully they get you know, pick six or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Be and this it's moved down. It opened up is

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to Saturday and we'll start

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Speaker 1: with number seventeen, TCU as a twenty and a half

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about, you know, coach Prime making

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Speaker 3: How do you how do you like this game here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Those are idiot tickets. There's a lot of ideos

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Speaker 3: Rare Cowboys fans from the nineties.

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Speaker 4: And Theistinians like people who just don't understand. This roster

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Speaker 1: With any yeah, Thor, any difference of opinion here on

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Speaker 2: It's actually lower. Mike, I got a TCU minus sixteen

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Speaker 4: I actually kind of like here at time time privately

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Speaker 2: I do like I do like Boulder. Boulder is a

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Speaker 2: that the roster turnover thing, I think it's become a

433
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Speaker 2: little overstated. Like initially, when you know, when you're putting

434
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Speaker 2: this stuff into your system, you're thinking the thing of

435
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 2: like unprecedented roster turnover and and you know, lack of

436
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: con new different stuff like this, you toggle it down.

437
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 2: But but the you know, the year, certainly last year

438
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: that the biggest referendum we got on this. The teams

439
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 2: that took the most transfers, they did really well, right,

440
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: like you know, LSU being being a prime example of

441
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: this Florida state. You know a lot of rosters turnover.

442
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Speaker 2: This there's one other one I'm forgetting that was right

443
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Speaker 2: up USC That's right, thank you, Mike.

444
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Speaker 4: But they had town, they had town, sure.

445
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Speaker 2: Sure, But I think you know, the Colorado talent level

446
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 2: I believe is higher than they're getting credit for. I

447
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: think Shader Sanders is a stud personally. I think the

448
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: receiving corps because Travis Hunter is going to play there,

449
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 2: that's where he's practicing all last season. I actually think

450
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: the receiving corp is going to be pretty gout. You

451
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: had the two South Florida starting receivers from last year.

452
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: They just took off that team and then add Travis

453
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Speaker 2: Hunter to that. It's pretty good receiving corps. Is it

454
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Speaker 2: a perfect team? No, Like like my win projection, my

455
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: my systems win total for fre each team they fell,

456
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Speaker 2: I think right on three and a half, which is

457
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: you know what they're over under was in Vegas in

458
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: part because they have a really hard schedule. But I

459
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: think their talent level, the talent level on the roster

460
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: is closer to TCUs at this point then they're given

461
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: credit for. So that's the reason why I just think

462
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit too high.

463
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Speaker 5: In the same if they got three four sorry four

464
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Speaker 5: players and they're entire too deep on both offense and

465
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 5: says forty four players four players that have actually played

466
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Speaker 5: a snap of Colorado, So it's going to be interesting

467
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Speaker 5: if they can put together at a portal all star

468
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Speaker 5: team and stay with them.

469
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Speaker 4: Three touchdowns of a team that went to the National

470
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Speaker 4: last year. I will be surprised, but we disagree on

471
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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the under. I'll just avoid both of you

473
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Speaker 1: May the best better win. Let's move down to the

484
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Speaker 1: next game on Saturday. Auburn is a thirty five and

485
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Speaker 1: a half point home favorite against U Mass fifty two

486
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Speaker 1: and a half A lot of money ninety five percent

487
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Speaker 1: of cash feral is on U Mass. This is a

488
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Speaker 1: massive overreaction to them winning a game last week. Can

489
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Speaker 1: they keep within thirty five and a half points of

490
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Speaker 1: Auburn here?

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah? They can, So I have changed mine soon. I

492
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: don't think U MESS is a good football team, but

493
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Speaker 4: you know, listen, Don Brown is a very good defensive coach,

494
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Speaker 4: and that wasn't the issue, you know. I don't think

495
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: their defense was the issue last year, even when they stung.

496
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Speaker 4: It certainly wasn't the issue in Week zero. If they

497
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Speaker 4: can put up any points, they're going to stay within

498
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Speaker 4: thirty five and a half because Auburn is not really

499
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Speaker 4: an offensive joke or not. I'm not at the range, guy,

500
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 4: is a massive rebuilding job to do here. I think

501
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: they're going to be run heavy, and I think the

502
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: clock is really going to play in here, and not

503
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Speaker 4: of the over under, but the actual spread. So give

504
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Speaker 4: me you Mass, give me Don Brown. I watched every

505
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: second of that game. Ever I said, I forgot, I was.

506
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: I'm serious, Alride Radio. I said, anybody who watches every

507
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Speaker 4: minute of the New Mexico you Mass game or whatever

508
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 4: I said as really mental health issues, watch every minute

509
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Speaker 4: of that stupid game lost it. I should never doubt

510
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Speaker 4: Don Brown. Boston College, Northeast guy, I'm taking them to

511
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Speaker 4: cover thirty five a halfs.

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Speaker 1: There are any differensive opinion in this game, you take

513
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Speaker 1: an Auburn.

514
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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm staying away from it. My system's total

515
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: or spread on this game Auburn minus thirty six and

516
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: a half. So it's fairly closed. But if nothing else,

517
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Speaker 2: I'll be monitoring it. Because you mass, they were frisky

518
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: in the first game against New Mexico State. They beat

519
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Speaker 2: they beat a team that was a ball team last year.

520
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: Fraudulent ball team, but ball team nonetheless very They win

521
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: forty one to thirty over them. That they ran the

522
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Speaker 2: ball very well. That was impressive to me. And you know,

523
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: on defense, they were actually better on defense. I think

524
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 2: that people would believe last season, just Mike's mentioning it.

525
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: It's Don Brown right, Like the blitz packages and everything

526
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: like that. It's a lot for college quarterbacks to it

527
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: discombobulates them. Where's the pressure coming from? You know, the

528
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: heat's gonna come different, stuff like that. So their defense

529
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: is decent and now they can run the ball. My

530
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: concern with them is that they won't be able to

531
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Speaker 2: pass all season. The Taysom Fomacon kid, I'm happy for

532
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: the kid. He went to like eight different colleges, he

533
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: finally found one that he could start at. He does

534
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: add that element to the running game. Against New Mexico State,

535
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Speaker 2: seventeen carries ninety six yards, one touchdown, five point six

536
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: per But again the passing thing. They don't have a

537
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Speaker 2: ton of receiving talent either. But he's also a terrible thrower.

538
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Speaker 2: So can defense like Auburn shutout the lights on them?

539
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: There's a shot for sure. Auburn returns a lot of experience.

540
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: Eight starters on offense, nine starters on defense, so you

541
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: really only have to shut down the UMAs rushing attack

542
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: and they're not going to score any points. You're gonna

543
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: make them one handed. So I think probably I might

544
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: lean on shade this one under. But as far as

545
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: the side, I think it's an objectively fair line, so

546
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Speaker 2: I probably won't be playing either on that on that one.

547
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to number ten Washington, a fourteen

548
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Speaker 1: and a half point home favorite against Boise State.

549
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Speaker 3: Sixty is the total here.

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Speaker 1: This one is very interesting because of the betting numbers

551
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Speaker 1: fifty two percent of tickets on Washington, sixty four percent

552
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Speaker 1: of cash on Boise State. The over under is that

553
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty in tickets. Sixty four percent of cash

554
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Speaker 1: is on the over. Most bets are on the over.

555
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Speaker 1: But Mike, how do you feel about this Washington Boise

556
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Speaker 1: State game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I like the over as well. I don't like

558
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Speaker 4: the side here. I mean, fourteen and a half is

559
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Speaker 4: i'd say tough number. You know, Boise State is always

560
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 4: a good football program. They're always well coached, you know,

561
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: to beat them bigg as difficult. Washington as a potent

562
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 4: offense Boise he can score some points. So sixty seams

563
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: amily nuts amy lowd. But it seems low. You know,

564
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: if I were just doing it, I don't have Thor's

565
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: mathematical projections or or anything on that. I just do

566
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: with my head. I would think sixty six just that

567
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: would be the number the prop into my head. So

568
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Speaker 4: when I see sixty, I'm taking me over on this,

569
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Speaker 4: like six and percent together.

570
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Speaker 3: Thor, you have a good thought on Washington Boise State.

571
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Speaker 2: My number on that is Washington minus seventeen point eight.

572
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: My system's total was sixty four point five. So you know,

573
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: I am sure on some value on Washington. And I

574
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: love this Washington team this year. I hope they were

575
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: able to play a little bit better on defense. They

576
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: did do some stuff to address that, but they lost

577
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: two of their best pass rushers, so you have to

578
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: you have to sort of see how that one goes.

579
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: They struggled with the pass defense last year, and so

580
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be that's an understatement, but it's you know.

581
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Speaker 4: That's what men guys hurt. I mean seven guys h

582
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: I hope that doesn't happen again.

583
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe there's a shot that they jump up

584
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: this one. It will be interesting.

585
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: You know.

586
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: The storyline with Boise State all off season. Taylon Green,

587
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: who was sort of the revelation last year. He's this tall, lanky,

588
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: duo threat kid who's just a fabulous runner. Extremely inconsistent

589
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: as a passer so far, but he's got the frame

590
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: for it. He's got a little bit of arm strength.

591
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: It's just the mechanics go all over the place and

592
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: the balls go all over the place. But this offseason

593
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: they had the new offensive coordinator come in, Bush Hampton.

594
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: They talked about working on his mechanics all off season.

595
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: If if that kid is able to throw, Boise State

596
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: becomes really dangerous because they have two stud running backs.

597
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: They have one of the best running back rooms in

598
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Speaker 2: the G five. And then you add Green to that,

599
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: you know they're gonna be awesome running the ball. If

600
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: Green can throw accurately or at least get the defenses

601
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Speaker 2: to respect that. The pass opponents are going to be

602
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: a little bit in trouble with that, and their offense

603
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: will give Washington problems. The issue for them in this

604
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: game Washington's offense. Nobody's gonna stop Washington's offense, even the

605
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: better defenses they play. Boise State is going to be

606
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: out man there. The receiving talent the Huskies haveage just

607
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: ludicrous coming back with the Dounsay and McMillan, and they

608
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: brought in Polk to be the third guy. They're just

609
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: loaded there. And obviously Pennecks, if he stays healthy, is

610
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Speaker 2: just by definition a Heisman contender. So I think I

611
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: would lean towards Washington and that one, but probably the

612
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: over as well I would be looking at just because

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Speaker 2: all those factors.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to South Carolina, hosting number twenty

615
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Speaker 1: one North Carolina. Two and a half in North Carolina

616
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Speaker 1: is a road favorite here. Sixty four and a half

617
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: is the number. Tickets slightly favor sc money favors UNC

618
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: pretty heavily. Here, Mike, what do you think about South

619
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Speaker 1: Carolina versus North Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Here?

621
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Speaker 4: This is another one. I'm going to take the over.

622
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Speaker 4: It's a tough game because you know, South Carolina. I'm

623
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: enough a lot of momentum last season. You know Spencer Rattler,

624
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: I still more confidence. You know, he's got more weapons. Offensively,

625
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: they should be pretty good. But North Carolina has Drake

626
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: may And and they should be Eccelanta on offense too.

627
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: So I see a bit of a shootout here. North

628
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: Carolina's defense is bad enough to make me thankful. They're

629
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Speaker 4: going to give up a minimum of forty points to

630
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Speaker 4: South Carolina, meaning thirty five to forty. So that's assuming

631
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Speaker 4: North Carolina's going to score their own twenty eight. I'm

632
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: taking over door.

633
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on North first South Carolina?

634
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: Here?

635
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: My my line on that one is close to a pick.

636
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: I got tar Heels minus zero point eight points, so

637
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: pretty close there. My system would shade it over. We're

638
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: in the let's see seventy four points, so I'm actually

639
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: a decent bit over that. One thing though, you wonder

640
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: with on both the counts, is North Carolina losing Tes

641
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Walkers so close to the season, the guy who they

642
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: have brought in from Kent State projected wide receiver one.

643
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: The NCAA is being ridiculously punitive with this and not

644
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: letting this kid play. I won't get into that, but

645
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: they have not North Carolina's appealed to appeal to the

646
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: NCAA has not overturned that decision yet. And because of

647
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: the receiving talent, the UNC loss over the offseason, primarily

648
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: Josh Dollins, you're just wondering about how they can cobble

649
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: that thing together again. For Drake May. They have this

650
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: prodigy in the pocket. You know, Drake May is gonna

651
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: be awesome, but it's just like, you know, like last

652
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: year Alabama with Bryce Young and he's playing with this

653
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 2: stinky receiving gore couldn't get any separation, balls playing off

654
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: their hands, different stuff like that. We hope that's not

655
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: the fate for May this year. And then on the

656
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: other side of the ball, they bring back a lot

657
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: of guys on defense, were able to bring in starters, etc.

658
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: I think eight guys that were starters last year, but

659
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: they were not good last year. And there's you know,

660
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: some continuity stuff, so we'll see what Chiswick has up

661
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: his sleeve there. But Sell Carolina doesn't return much on

662
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: defense either. I'm probably more bullish on the South Carolina

663
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: offense than the market. I like Spencer Raller, and he

664
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: started playing well at the end of last season. The

665
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: beginning of it, you know, he's sort of acclimating himself whatnot.

666
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: Did not play very well at the beginning of it,

667
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: but you started to see sort of vintage Spencer Raller

668
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. You've gotten reports that

669
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: he has had an awesome training camp. I think maybe

670
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: we see another step up from Spencer Rallery. If so,

671
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: they'll be dangerous on offense. But for me, this game

672
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: overall is a coin flip.

673
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to number seven, Penn State hosting West Virginia.

674
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Penn State is a twenty and a half point favorite

675
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: at home. Fifty and a half is the line here.

676
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: A lot of tickets on Penn State, a lot of

677
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: cash on WVU cash and tickets both on the under

678
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: in this game. Mike, how do you see Penn State

679
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: versus WVU plan out here?

680
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: I'm just I know West Virginia is not a very

681
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: good football team. You know, when I see twenty and

682
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: a half, I have to take them. I mean, if

683
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 4: you did me three touchdowns. You know, Penn State's got

684
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: a new quarterback that I didn't have some adjustments. You know,

685
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: They've got a great running attack. They should be, you know,

686
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: able to put up points on West Virginia, but just not. Yeah,

687
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna put us least five or fifty. Defensively,

688
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: they're very, very good, but West Virginia is a scrapping team.

689
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: I know Neil Brown's on his way out and want

690
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: to play for But at the beginning of the season

691
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: being a three touchdown hundred doll against Penn State, I

692
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: think they're gonna have some fight in them. We saw that,

693
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: you know, you know, pseudo rivalry game against it. Yeah,

694
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: pseudo rivalry game against Ben State. Even though it's not

695
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: true rivalry, it's still geographically important to these kids. So

696
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna play hard, and I think Penn

697
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: State is going to win the football game for sure,

698
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: but not by re touchdowns. So give me West Virginia

699
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: getting twenty and a half.

700
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: There are you got a strong feeling about this one.

701
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: My line's Penn State minus twenty two. It is a

702
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: tough one to bet, though. I don't lay more than

703
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: twenty points too often as a sports better, so I

704
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: gotta feel pretty good to do it this one. I

705
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: don't know if I'll be able to get there. I

706
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: love Penn State. I think Penn State is they may

707
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: surpass Ohio State this year. I love Michigan. Michigan's my

708
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: title pick, so I'm not gonna say them above them,

709
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: but Penn State is getting really dangerous again. You have

710
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback now who has the NFL arm in Alar.

711
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: People have been raving about him. You have the awesome

712
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: backfield duo. They lost the receiver, but they fortified it

713
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: again through the portal. Franklin's done a really good job

714
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: of that. Fashanu, who is going to be a top

715
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: five pick, leads what's a really good offensive line, and

716
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: then they're nasty on defense. Manny Diaz picked that thing

717
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: way up last year. They may go up again. They

718
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: did lose Joey Porter, but they still have one of

719
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: the best secondaries in the nation, and their pass rush

720
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. They have all these sleek athletes there on

721
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: the edge, and Diaz loves to send the heat, so

722
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna be a problem for people. What will be

723
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: interesting to watch in this game for spectators, the people

724
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: that sit on the side, is to see how good

725
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: Penn State's run defense is. I know they're going to

726
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: be really good the pass, the ridiculous pass rutch, the

727
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: really good secondary. They will be a problem for opposing

728
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 2: pass offenses all season. But you're wondering how they'll they'll

729
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: do against the run. The better running teams West Virginia,

730
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll be able to throw. I

731
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: did not like what I saw of the Garrett Green

732
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: kid in the limited time that I seen them last year.

733
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: I was surprised they didn't go out in the portal

734
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: and try to get a starter to replace JT. Daniels.

735
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: They're just going to go with this Garrett Green kid whatever.

736
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: I don't love their receiving talent either, But CJ. Donaldson

737
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: is really really good now home run hitting, tight back

738
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: that also gives you efficiency, and West Virginia has one

739
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: of the better top twenty offensive line I think is

740
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: supremely fair and it might even be higher than that

741
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: in the nation. So you know they'll be able to

742
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: run the ball. But it's just everything else. I don't

743
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: trust them to pass. And their defense. They do bring

744
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: back seven guys, but they lost most of the important ones.

745
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Especially the defensive line was like the one good part

746
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: of it last year. They lose all those guys to graduate,

747
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: so it's a totally rebuilt defensive line. And then in

748
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: the secondary, that was the thing that stunk last year.

749
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: That's where they're returning all their players. Maybe those are

750
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: the guys that I wouldn't have wanted back. I would

751
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: have tried to get different guys to replace them in

752
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: the portal, but that's the constitution there. So Penn State

753
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: will be able to put up numbers. It's just compense

754
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: state shutdown. That really good West Virginia rushing Attech.

755
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to some PAC twelve after dark

756
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: while we still can here. UCLA hosting Coastal Carolina. UCLA

757
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: is a fourteen and a half point home favorite. Sixty

758
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: five and a half is the total on this one,

759
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: tickets going towards UCLA, most of the cash towards Coastal Carolina.

760
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Here an extreme amount of cash towards Coastal Carolina tickets

761
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: and cash both on the over here. Mike how do

762
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: you see this game between UCLA and Coastal plan Now, yeah, I.

763
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: Think the money on Coastal Carolina is a safe bet.

764
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're giving more than two touchdowns to

765
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 4: a UCLA team that's replacing a what seventeen year starter

766
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: in DTR, you know, Dante Moore is a freshman and

767
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of experience. You're replacing Zach Sharbatow.

768
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: He hit the portal pretty good, you know, running back

769
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, so there is some talent there. But

770
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: you know, for this team to sort of gel against

771
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: a very not a very difficult, but a difficult enough opponent,

772
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: which I think you keep them within ten d to

773
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: twelve points. So give me Costal Carolina to cover this

774
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: fourteen and a half. If that was thirteen and a half,

775
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: it'd be a different story for me. But I'm going

776
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: to take the two touchdowns on the Hawk and cash

777
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: way ticket on Cohostal.

778
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, a long way to travel for Coastal here Thor.

779
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, like Mike said, UCLA replacing a lot,

780
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: specifically at key positions on offense.

781
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: How do you see this one going?

782
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough one for me. I'm surprised

783
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: with where the market has taken this one and where

784
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: this line is right now, My line's UCLA minus twenty

785
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: and a half. I guess the thing that surprises me

786
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: about the market is like you listen, you know, Sharps

787
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: and different stuff like that, and some of the stuff

788
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: with the win total over the summer, felt like the

789
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: market was pretty pessimistic about Coastal Carolina. But now in

790
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: this game they're maybe not as much. I guess I

791
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: see the value on UCLA. I get the thing about

792
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, like losing Dorian Thompson Robinson and losing Sharpene.

793
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: But they bring back a lot of guys and their

794
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: defense this will be the best defense of the Chip

795
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: Kelly era, both in terms of talent returning experience. They'll

796
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: just qualitatively be there. They brought in a nine returning

797
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: starters on defense and then on offense they returned seven

798
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: and they also went on the portal. They got a

799
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: bunch of guys. Shlee, he ain't gonna start. Carson Steele

800
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: might at least plattoon with with Harden j Michael Sturtevant.

801
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: The receiver they got from Cal is an absolute start.

802
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: They also added another receiver from usc An Oregon tight end.

803
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: So I like that team, you know, And and Garber

804
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: is going to be the quarterback initially with the good

805
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: receivers and the good running backs there, they have a

806
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: pretty solid offensive line too. He'll just be the game

807
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: manager or whatever. And I think that's going to be enough,

808
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: you know, as long as not because he ain't gonna

809
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: turn the ball over whatever. With Coastal Carolina, my concern

810
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: continues to be Tim Beck. If Jamie Chadwell is coaching

811
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: this team on Saturday, I would have a different opinion. Yeah,

812
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: I'd be taking those twenty and a half points probably.

813
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: But with Tim Beck taking over, you have a you

814
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: have a system change, and it's going away from what

815
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: we've seen made Grace and McCalls so dangerous. And also

816
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: that rushing attack they were so difficult to deal with.

817
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: The run game and that spread option. They have the

818
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: blocking schemes coming from all different directions that you know,

819
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: the defend. The defenders they don't know which way the

820
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: ball is going. There's the prestat motion. They don't know

821
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: which angle the blockers are going to come at them,

822
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: or which dude is going to block them, whatever, and

823
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: so they would just discombobulate people with these different concepts,

824
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: and then they would get the one on one play,

825
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: auction shots, over the top, whatnot, and and that's how

826
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: they built their explosive plays. But with Tim Beck coming in,

827
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: I've now I liked his offenses. He's the opposite of creative.

828
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: So that's my pessimism with them. But so I would

829
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: probably lean UCLA in this one.

830
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: All right, let's go over to Sunday because we got

831
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: Sunday games.

832
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: No NFL a couple games on Sunday, believe there are three,

833
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: but we're gonna skip that first one. Let's go to

834
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: San Jose State versus number eighteen Oregon State sixteen and

835
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: a half. Oregon State is a road favorite. Fifty four

836
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: and a half is a total here. Tickets and cash

837
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: both on Oregon State. Tickets and cash both on the

838
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: over here as well. Mike, how do you feel about

839
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: San Jose State hosting Oregon State?

840
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've seen San Jose State. It's one of

841
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: the few games we have a sample size, a small

842
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 4: sample size. You know, if they're one to noo gets

843
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 4: spread hung in there. USC's defense is not Oregon State's defense.

844
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: USC's defenses horrible. As usual, they can't stop the run.

845
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: Oregon State n I think, you know, this is going

846
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 4: to be a rough one for San Jose State. I

847
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: think Oregon State is a real solid football team. I

848
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: think they're going to be able to stop most of

849
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: the things San Jose State wants to do, you know,

850
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: And and I'm laying sixteen and a half. I know

851
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 4: it's a lot because we don't know what we're going

852
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: to get from Dju. You know, he's a talented kid,

853
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it. You know, the Clemson system

854
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: wasn't great for him. But also he lost all his confidence.

855
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying he didn't have to play for this teammate.

856
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: And you know, I know some guys at Oregon State

857
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: they believe in him. They think he's a reborn and

858
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: he's fully confident. That was their big problem last year

859
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 4: on offense was quarterback play. So I think that's going

860
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: to be markedly improved. Even though I don't expect him

861
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: to be like the top five pick I had at

862
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 4: you know, at high school when he was ranked just

863
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: behind Bright Young, I think he's going to be a

864
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: very important addition to them. They can run the football,

865
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: they're physical. I think they're going to beat up on

866
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 4: San Jose State and cover that sixteen and a half.

867
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on San Jose State versus Oregon State.

868
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: I agree with Mike on this one. I think the

869
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: side would be Oregon State. My line on that one

870
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: Oregon State minus twenty one point one. San Jose State.

871
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: They have an interesting offense, or they have an offense

872
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: that we know is going to work against some of

873
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: the MWC opponents they face because it's really efficient, you know,

874
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: and they just put the ball into space and then

875
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: they make you tackle them whatnot. But it's not explosive

876
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: at all, and you know, and you basically know what's coming,

877
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's just a short passing game whatnot.

878
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna have a ton of

879
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: success against Oregon State here. The one thing they got

880
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: going for him is Oregon State. The one thing they

881
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: did lose over the offseason. They lost a couple of cornerbacks.

882
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to see the new guys and

883
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: at least see that they tackle in space. But they

884
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: ain't gonna have to run with people down the field.

885
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: It's not what San Jose State does and I love

886
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: Oregon State's offense right like, you know, it's just gonna

887
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: be pound the ball upon the ball with Martinez, that

888
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: really awesome offensive line. And I'm I'm the furthest thing

889
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: in the world from like a dj U, a galle

890
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: fan or certainly apologist, but objectively he is an enormous

891
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: upgrade from the quarterbacks they had Lash. Yeah, the quarterbacks

892
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: said last year they couldn't run around and they weren't

893
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: good throwers, right, Like, the accumulative td I and T

894
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: rate for the two of them was right around even steven.

895
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: At least with DJU, he's going to give you way

896
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: more rushing utility. And he also scares defenses deep. That's

897
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: the one thing we know he could do. He can

898
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: heave the ball deep whatnot. Even if the accuracy doesn't

899
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: come back, he's still an enormous upgrade on them. So

900
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: for me would be Oregon State in this one. I

901
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: think their defense ain't gonna have any problems with that

902
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: San Jose State sort of straightforward attack, and I think

903
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: they're just going to grind on San Jose State. That

904
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: San Jose State defense return only four starters. We saw

905
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: that was not good against USC, But this is going

906
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: to be sort of the opposite. You got the finesse

907
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: last time. Now you're going to get the power and

908
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna do just as poorly against that.

909
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: All right, game of the week here on Sunday evening,

910
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: number eight Floor State versus number five LSULS. He was

911
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: a two and a half point road favorite. Fifty six

912
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: and a half. This is actually a neutral site game

913
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: in Orlando. And a half is the total here, Uh,

914
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: tickets of cash on LSU, tickets on the under cash

915
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: on the over here. Mike, So, Florida State versus LSU,

916
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about this one?

917
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? What a great game? I mean, this is really

918
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: what you want in week one. You want something like this.

919
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: It's really gonna it won't determine the playoffs either team,

920
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: but it's it's going to go a long way towards

921
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: other seasons going to go, you.

922
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 6: Know, because Florida State is the clemsing game and a

923
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 6: pre week ACC schedule, and LSU has the SEC West

924
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: and you know a lot of people think that they're

925
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 6: going to come out of there as they did last year.

926
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 4: I'm leaning Florida State here. I'll let you Mason Smith

927
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: being missing. I know we missed all the last season

928
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: with the Injurne, you know, having this the game he's missing,

929
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: you know, because NCA is very short.

930
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Sighted, you know, in the n I L world is

931
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: getting thing for the signing audivering freshman.

932
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: That's going to be a big loss for the them.

933
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: And I really can't find a fault anywhere on this

934
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: At Florida State offense. The biggest question is how's that

935
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 4: defensive line of Florida State can hold up with One

936
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: of the weaknesses of LSU, at least heading into the

937
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: season is their rushing attack and they rely too much

938
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 4: on Jaydon Daniels. So it comes to you know, Florida

939
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: State's offense, the big receivers, the way they were able

940
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: to run the ball, the serious quarterback who I think

941
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: a better passer than Jadon Daniels. I'm gonna go with

942
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 4: Florida State to win. This came out right. I would

943
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: take the money line on this, even though it's all

944
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 4: you know, you could take the two and a half

945
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 4: of one, but I would take the money line and

946
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 4: Florida State's going this book door.

947
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: How do you feel about this game? Biggest game of

948
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: the week.

949
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: I have LSU minus two point seven, but that's not

950
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: factoring in the Mason Smith injury. With that, I would

951
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: certainly go, you know, I mean, you know, you could

952
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: just bring it down to like two or whatever. But

953
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: like we're right around the line either way.

954
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: Sure, right, So that.

955
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: One's tough for me. But I do think, yeah, yeah,

956
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: you'd like that Mason Smith back in this game. When

957
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: you're going up against Trey Benson and then Travis scrambling

958
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: around different stuff like that, That one hurts. But yeah,

959
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: I mean, qualitatively, these teams are really close. The Seminoles

960
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: returned seventeen starters, nine of them on defense. LSU returns

961
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: fifteen for this game fourteen. Well, I suppose Mason Smith

962
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: didn't play last year. But yeah, for me, this one's close.

963
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna end up being a watch game. Or

964
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: I'll bet the total because I just don't think there's

965
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: any value on that side. I've been shading some of

966
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: these totals lower. This actually might be one where I

967
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: would consider it going over, just because of what those

968
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: offenses have, the firepower they got there my total and

969
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: also in my system saying sixty three point five, So

970
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: I'd probably shade this one a little over, but yeah,

971
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: as far as the side, it's that's really We're really

972
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: close to the margins right there.

973
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: All right, we go to the last game of the

974
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: week on Monday, we have Duke versus number nine Clemson.

975
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: Twelve and a half is Clemson's line here in their

976
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: favorite fifty five and a half is the total money

977
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: going on Clemson and tickets going on Clemson against a

978
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: spread on the total tickets are on the under just slightly,

979
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: but most of the cash is on the over here.

980
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this game, Mike, Clemson versusdud.

981
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 4: The money's on clemsic is, nobody knows anything about dude.

982
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 4: But this is a really good football team. This will

983
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: coach Elko ray Jobins first season. They've got talent you

984
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 4: just never heard of it. They've got a good offensive line.

985
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: They obviously a quarterback that people should know about and

986
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: they don't. I think this is just you know, Clemson

987
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: being Clemson, beating up on the week of the ACC

988
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: and getting at twelve and a half point wine. I

989
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 4: like Kane Plubnick. I like him out of high school.

990
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: I think he can be good. He's not going to

991
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: be just John Watson he's not going to be Trevor Lawrence.

992
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he's Page Boyd, and if he styles Boyd,

993
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: they could still do some great things. But you know,

994
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: he's still getting his feet underneath them. Roster talent isn't comparable.

995
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: I mean, Funchon has roster talent, but they do have

996
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: that quarterback and really question Mark there, so maybe Duke.

997
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: I think they're a good value play here getting twelve

998
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: and a half. I think they're going to lose, but

999
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to get on out.

1000
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: There were your thoughts on Duke first, Clemson on Duke

1001
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: side as well, or you leaning on the Tigers.

1002
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: Systems got Clemson minus eleven point seven. I'm probably gonna

1003
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: end up staying away from the side that the one

1004
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: that I like more here. I like the over in

1005
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: this game too, this one probably even more than the

1006
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: one that we just talked about the LSU Florida State.

1007
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: That might be just forcing the one a little bit

1008
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 2: for action. This one, though, I actually legitimately liked the over.

1009
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: The Clemson offense. You know, last year they did tick

1010
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: up to thirtieth after the year before they were in

1011
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: the hundreds. But now you bring in Gary Riley, who

1012
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: runs this extremely fast paced offense, was able to take

1013
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: Max do Get into the national title last year. Max

1014
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: Dugan qualitatively, he's basically Dju dj U is the guy

1015
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: they just kicked out because he wasn't good enough. And

1016
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: now they're starting Kay Klevenick, who is going to be

1017
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: an enormous upgrade. Their passing offense is going to be

1018
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: unlocked again. You're gonna get the efficiency.

1019
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: Back with that.

1020
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: We already know that they they've run really well with

1021
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: you know, led by Will Shipley whatnot. And you know,

1022
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: we see how many offensive yards that TCU last year

1023
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: put you know, up on the ground whatnot. So between

1024
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: that stuff and then I like Duke's offense. Pharrell was

1025
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: hitting on it right, Like the NFL really likes that

1026
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard kid. They have a couple of good receivers,

1027
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: they have a solid offensive line, so they can move

1028
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: the ball as well. I think this is going to

1029
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: be more of an up tempo one. And and that's

1030
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: something you know, people can look at out there, you

1031
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: know that you try to hone in on on in

1032
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: the early games. Is these teams that have changed the

1033
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: offensive coordinators. Is there going to be an uptick in

1034
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: the offense, but also is there going to be an

1035
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: uptick in the tempo that the market is not totally

1036
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: accounting for. I think that's what we see here, so

1037
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm going over.

1038
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that is going to wrap us up

1039
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 3: for Week one.

1040
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,480
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1041
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,080
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1042
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,960
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1043
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,319
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1044
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: Take it easy, everybody,