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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for joining us
Speaker 1: for another episode of Nightcap Basketball Edition. I'm your favorite
Speaker 1: sports unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number zero. Habachi
Speaker 1: the man once played an NBA game and some Dolce
Speaker 1: and Gabana. Yes, he did Dolce and Gabona. Some lifestyle
Speaker 1: activewear out of worth sneakers. He did that Gil with
Speaker 1: arenas Gil. How you doing tonight, Bro, I'm good. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me man. Thanks for joinings. You know
Speaker 1: we don't get into this a little later, but you
Speaker 1: and I have been trying to put something together for
Speaker 1: quite a while. Behind the scenes, we were both of
Speaker 1: our teams were working timely trying to get this thing
Speaker 1: together because we want to show people. Look, Gil has
Speaker 1: this thing going and it's doing great. I've got my
Speaker 1: thing with Ojo and Club Shay Shape doing great, but
Speaker 1: we want to show people that we can work together
Speaker 1: because a lot of people see all because of going
Speaker 1: back and forth on YouTube and on Twitter and this
Speaker 1: and that. One nah Gil is like, hey, bro, what
Speaker 1: you want to do? You want to do something, let's
Speaker 1: put up. Let's find something we can do together. And
Speaker 1: so here we are. Hopefully this is a sign of
Speaker 1: many more things to come, but let's jump right into it.
Speaker 2: The Bucks beat the Pacers one one twenty six.
Speaker 1: Giannis has a career high sixty four points, breaks the
Speaker 1: franchise record that was held by Michael Red fifty seven points.
Speaker 1: He was twenty or twenty eight from the field, fourteen
Speaker 1: rebounds and force steals. Before we get into a game,
Speaker 1: the game was kind of got overshadowed because it looked
Speaker 1: like the Pacers was holding the game ball for ransom.
Speaker 1: What would you take away? But what transpired after the
Speaker 1: game deal before we get into what transpired doing the game. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's history right there. Sixty four point. I would have
Speaker 1: stole that shit. I just stolen to it.
Speaker 2: When he came back and tall, you bro, can you
Speaker 2: sign this? Hopefully you got about it?
Speaker 1: Hey, but you know, just like anything, that game ball
Speaker 1: is special to you know, to the people who did it.
Speaker 1: I had to do the same thing when I hit
Speaker 1: sixty against the Lakers. I had to go fire and
Speaker 1: chase it down. Yeah, they were trying to keep it
Speaker 1: because that's a game ball for them to play the game,
Speaker 1: and it is probably one of their favorites. So when
Speaker 1: someone does something special with it, they still want it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that game ball is only special to you, it's not
Speaker 1: special to the Lakers. So they go, they gonna try
Speaker 1: to back out their gain. But if you look after
Speaker 1: the game deal, the Bucks got the Bucks a coach assist,
Speaker 1: the coach had the ball. I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how did the he for got end up with the ball. Hey,
Speaker 1: give us the ball. It's just one of those things
Speaker 1: because it's part of their organization. So they they're trying
Speaker 1: to collect all the balls that you know that they
Speaker 1: have out today because you know, like anything, you'll see
Speaker 1: like xes on the ball means he has three axes.
Speaker 2: That's the game game ball. Okay, they're trying to just
Speaker 2: collect the ball, and you're honest, like whoa, whoa, whoa woa.
Speaker 1: Nine that's me, right, there and he's basically telling Lord Pearson,
Speaker 1: tyreez Alliberton, go get that infing ball.
Speaker 2: You go.
Speaker 1: Tyree's like, bro, what I got to do? What hop
Speaker 1: over here? Talking with Dave? Hop over here? I don't
Speaker 1: want no beat. I don't want no beat. He's like,
Speaker 1: go get the ball. Giannis was hot. He was even
Speaker 1: hot in the after the game, the interview. He was
Speaker 1: still seething because he felt that the Pacers was trying
Speaker 1: to take a part of history. And you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: sixty four points. I don't care who is again sixty
Speaker 1: four sixty four and you look at some of the
Speaker 1: greats Jabar played in that uniform and he got sixty
Speaker 1: four and so obviously he wants the game ball.
Speaker 2: Let's get into the game.
Speaker 1: Johan is twenty of twenty eight, fourteen rebounds, four steals.
Speaker 1: I think he was like twenty four to thirty two
Speaker 1: from the file line.
Speaker 2: Gil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you watch the Bucks and you see Dame
Speaker 1: and it's only what twenty games into the season, when
Speaker 1: you watch them, what do you like a working to
Speaker 1: improve The two players that we do see and we
Speaker 1: expected to play well, they're playing very well. Dame out
Speaker 1: of the last twenty one games, or just the twenty
Speaker 1: one games this year, He's scored twenty points in over
Speaker 1: sixteen of those games. Okay, Janni's nineteen out of the
Speaker 1: twenty three games. They're playing very well, right. Their third option,
Speaker 1: Middleton ain't doing very well, right, the guy that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the steady, that steady third option for him.
Speaker 1: It's like when Drew got traded. He got traded. That's
Speaker 1: what it feels like. His half of him is in
Speaker 1: Boston probably, Okay, and well, he's only scored one twenty
Speaker 1: point game and the whole season so far. How much
Speaker 1: you think that is is health related? You know, he
Speaker 1: had that surge on his knee. I think he had
Speaker 1: surgery on his wrist or another extremity also, So how
Speaker 1: much do you think that it is just age and
Speaker 1: attrition or how much is that you think is related
Speaker 1: to the knee surgery that he had. No, I mean no,
Speaker 1: the health is a big thing. You know, that's that
Speaker 1: that is probably one of the bigger problems with him personally.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're trying to you know, eatn win a championship, right,
Speaker 1: you know that that injury is hindering, you know, the
Speaker 1: movement of this team right right. He can only do
Speaker 1: so much. Johnny can only do so much. We need
Speaker 1: the other parts. That's going to go against the Boston's
Speaker 1: and a Phillies. I don't I've watched the Bucks for
Speaker 1: like four gaps, watched them four games. I was at
Speaker 1: the game in which the Lakers won the nd season
Speaker 1: Tournament on Saturday, and.
Speaker 2: My takeaway is that they don't play a liquor defense.
Speaker 1: They're looking to push your tempo, make or miss if
Speaker 1: they If you miss it, they're looking to get the
Speaker 1: ball off the rim and push it up the court.
Speaker 1: If you make it, they'll take it out the net
Speaker 1: and still and still push it up the court. Because
Speaker 1: I watched the Lakers get eighty six points in the
Speaker 1: paint and Lebron missed like three or four layups ad
Speaker 1: they could have had easily one hundred, one hundred and
Speaker 1: six points in the paint. It's hard when you have
Speaker 1: that kind of offensive rating but you're dead last across
Speaker 1: the board in defensive rating. When you when you watch
Speaker 1: the Pacers, what's your takeaway? Because maybe maybe I'm missing something,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they can compete I don't think
Speaker 1: they're very serious contenders with that type of defense.
Speaker 2: No, no, right, now, you know the Pacers is a
Speaker 2: fun team, right, they're very fun up and down team.
Speaker 2: They're young. They don't have defensive concepts. Right. They have
Speaker 2: Miles back there, but.
Speaker 1: He can only do so much by himself, right, But
Speaker 1: for the structure of the team itself, they don't have
Speaker 1: enough pieces that's willing to do the extra like when
Speaker 1: it comes to being a defensive team.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's don't let them score on.
Speaker 1: The first opportunity, Like I mean, give give no blowboys, right,
Speaker 1: turn a little bit so that help can help.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, they're one of.
Speaker 1: Those teams where you just you can just straight line
Speaker 1: the whole team. Yeah, they don't even make you kick
Speaker 1: the ball out. You just drive to the ball, You
Speaker 1: drive to the basket and just lay the ball up. Because,
Speaker 1: like you said, you got Miles Turner, you got Matt
Speaker 1: burn that plays a little defense. Bunny Hill's not playing defense.
Speaker 1: Ty Reeves is not a defensive guy. McConnell. He's a
Speaker 1: scrappy guy, but he's only like five teens, so he
Speaker 1: can only do so much. So they don't have enough pieces.
Speaker 1: I agree, with you. They need more pieces in order
Speaker 1: to pay play defense. But like you said, they are
Speaker 1: a fun team. They're the type of team that you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna score one hundred and thirty. We might give
Speaker 1: up one thirty six, but hey, but you're gonna get
Speaker 1: your money's worth. It's not gonna be it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those ninety six to ninety type ball games.
Speaker 2: That's over for them. No, they can't. They don't even
Speaker 2: have the patience to play.
Speaker 1: Right, it's just one of it's It's it's Phoenix Suns
Speaker 1: all over again with a faster tempo.
Speaker 2: Right. Those are the teams you score sixty four on.
Speaker 1: Right, They're gonna play possessions in the game that everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to eat. Right, And the Pacers are
Speaker 1: first in points per game, averaging one twenty eight point five,
Speaker 1: the second worst than appoints points per game, giving up
Speaker 1: about one to twenty five game. So they're fun to watch,
Speaker 1: But I just don't know how far they can go.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. Now.
Speaker 1: They did beat the Celtics in order to advance to
Speaker 1: go to Vegas, but I don't believe they can beat
Speaker 1: Boston in a poor game series. I don't believe they
Speaker 1: can beat the Bucks in a poor game series. I
Speaker 1: definitely don't think they can beat if if Yanni's got
Speaker 1: sixty four, Jordan be gonna get seventy. They ain't got
Speaker 1: nobody to do it with that locomotive, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: seventy killed.
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 1: The bad part too about even on the Buck side, Right,
Speaker 1: you have two first team all defensive players back there,
Speaker 1: and y'all are struggling on defense, which is where we are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've always question the metrics of defense.
Speaker 2: How do you gauge it?
Speaker 1: Because some of these guys aren't real defensive players, but
Speaker 1: they're when in these awards, and this is.
Speaker 2: A prime example.
Speaker 1: You lose one defensive guy, you still have two first
Speaker 1: team off deal.
Speaker 2: How anybody pays? Yeah? Right? And yeah, that's the funny
Speaker 2: thing about teams where.
Speaker 1: No matter how many defensive players you have individually, if
Speaker 1: they don't know how to play together, they become a bad
Speaker 1: defensive team. Yeah, Gil, I look at it like this,
Speaker 1: And what I tell people in football, if you're good
Speaker 1: offensively or you're good defensively. If you're a good offensive team,
Speaker 1: and you say you're a good offensive team or a
Speaker 1: great offensive team, can you go get points? Can you
Speaker 1: go get done when you need to get it done?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: In basketball, if you're a defensive team, can you get
Speaker 1: a stop when you need it?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Because if you can't, it doesn't all these great defensive
Speaker 1: stats that we're number one in steels, we're number one
Speaker 1: in block shots at YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: But if you can't get.
Speaker 1: A stop when you absolutely have to have a stop,
Speaker 1: what good is all all those stats doing you?
Speaker 2: No, that's that's that's facts right there, right that the
Speaker 2: last five minutes, the last two minutes really dictate, you know,
Speaker 2: the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1: You know, in basketball, we tell ourselves, right, make enough
Speaker 1: plays to win at the end of the game, right,
Speaker 1: you know, so the Stars can take over.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The Nets beat the Suns one, sixteen to one twelve,
Speaker 1: spoiling the Sun's Big three debut. Devin Booker thirty four points,
Speaker 1: six rebounds, twelve assist, Kevin Durant twenty seven points, six rebounds,
Speaker 1: four assists, Bradley be Up fifteen points on six to
Speaker 1: nine shooting two or two from three. The Sun's Big three,
Speaker 1: oh and one of the trio. What was some of
Speaker 1: your takeaway from that ball game? How much space you know,
Speaker 1: even though they lost this game, right, how much space
Speaker 1: was was Booker opened?
Speaker 2: Bill opened?
Speaker 1: There was there was a drive here, I think it
Speaker 1: was like and there was like sixty seven sixty eight,
Speaker 1: and Booker came off to pick and roll and Bill's
Speaker 1: your sitting at the top to keep by himself.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, that's too much space for a
Speaker 2: guy like that. And all three of them.
Speaker 1: Healthy now playing, They're gonna be trouble, you know, come
Speaker 1: down the line. But again, Gil, who they gonna stop?
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to get or are they gonna stop?
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to remember that we just said,
Speaker 1: can you get a stop? When you're absolutely have to
Speaker 1: have a stop? Who's gonna be able to sit down
Speaker 1: in that chair? Because Nurkic is not a defender, Ratt Bell,
Speaker 1: book KD. Who you got is gonna, I mean, what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do?
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know, It's so funny at this point, man, when
Speaker 1: you're talking about real defense right without any lockdown defenders?
Speaker 1: What's the concepts?
Speaker 2: Right? Are we pushing them?
Speaker 1: The weekend are we pushing them, keeping them on the baseline,
Speaker 1: Keep them on the sideline, as long as you're playing
Speaker 1: by principal, right, Okay, keep the.
Speaker 2: Man in front of you, right.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to play defense in today's game when
Speaker 1: everyone can shoot the ball. Yes, yes, there's so much space.
Speaker 1: There's so much space on the floor. Even the bigs.
Speaker 1: You used to condense the floor because your bigs couldn't
Speaker 1: stretch it, they couldn't shoot the basketball. But with the
Speaker 1: exception of maybe five bigs in all of basketball, everybody
Speaker 1: can shoot the three. And hell, even the guys that
Speaker 1: can shoot will drag jacket up with jacket up. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that when you look at but
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal only nine attempts.
Speaker 2: He used to get in at least fifteen to twenty attempts.
Speaker 2: Now this first game, uh, this first game.
Speaker 1: He trying to get a feel in. He just trying
Speaker 1: to get to fill in. And you know, you're trying
Speaker 1: to like ease in. You ain't trying to really do
Speaker 1: too much. So I know just what he did. He
Speaker 1: gonna catch cramps tonight, right, you like so you you
Speaker 1: like you think they can go they can make a
Speaker 1: deep run.
Speaker 2: You think they're serious SINIS contenders. Yes, in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's all about matchups, So yes they're If they're clicking
Speaker 1: and they get the right matchups, you know, in those
Speaker 1: first couple of rounds, then they could they could, you know,
Speaker 1: go to the Western Conference Final, maybe the championship, especially
Speaker 1: if maybe one stays healthy.
Speaker 2: Okay, you like them. The Lakers survived.
Speaker 1: San Antonio, winning one nineteen. The Lakers gave up forty
Speaker 1: five points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They gave up thirty four points last night and the
Speaker 1: MAVs lost in the fourth quarter. Ad was dominant again
Speaker 1: thirty seven points, ten rebounds for it steals uh. Victorian
Speaker 1: Prince seventeen points, five rebounds, five assists.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Kobe of the Ozarks Auston Reeds fifteen points, eight assists,
Speaker 1: four rebounds. Ruy was thirteen and seven. What did you
Speaker 1: like about the Lakers? Not except except except.
Speaker 2: That fourth quarter? Nothing, Because that fourth quarter showed us
Speaker 2: exactly why we need Lebron right, why we need to
Speaker 2: make a trade. Right. You just we don't have really
Speaker 2: enough players. We have we have a team, right, we
Speaker 2: have pieces, but we don't have nothing. We can hold
Speaker 2: our hat on like we're we're playing the Spurs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: our road t our.
Speaker 1: Road record is horrible, four and eight, right, we're five
Speaker 1: and eight now, five and at five and fopping eight now.
Speaker 2: We just like we need to go ahead no matter
Speaker 2: who we play.
Speaker 1: I think the next ten games we got what Spurs, Knicks, Bulls, Heat, Grizz, Clippers, Raptors, Sons, Jazz, Thunder.
Speaker 1: We should go eight and two. We should, right, and
Speaker 1: we still need to make a trade. But okay, what, okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we know. A D and Lebron are untouchables.
Speaker 1: I believe I believe they list Auster Reeves as an untouchable.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: I believe they believe him as an untouchable. But all
Speaker 1: other ruy d low So what what what do they need?
Speaker 1: What exactly? Do they need another shoot? Another score? Do
Speaker 1: they need another ball handler? What do they need? We
Speaker 1: need another score? Needs someone to take the pressure off.
Speaker 1: See right now, we're playing, for the most part two
Speaker 1: on five right where that means ten guys are really
Speaker 1: paying attention to two players, which shrinks the floor when.
Speaker 2: You have DL who's not shooting.
Speaker 1: When Delos shooting is good, but when he's taking like
Speaker 1: nine shots, a game. That's bad because Prince and Reddish
Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing. Between the two of them,
Speaker 1: they might take ten shots, right. Prince played well later
Speaker 1: in the game, but for the most part, both of
Speaker 1: you guys are there for defense. I don't need that.
Speaker 1: I need someone to take the pressure off offensively for
Speaker 1: Lebron and Ad. So the trade could happen. Prince rulyd Lo.
Speaker 1: That's thirty nine million, zach Levine's at forty swap them.
Speaker 1: But it's see from what I've been reading, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're hearing the same things in the
Speaker 1: circles that you travel in. They seem to be more
Speaker 1: interested in Damar, Derozen and maybe a Caruso than says
Speaker 1: zach Levine. Okay, when you bring in the Damar, Damar
Speaker 1: is a better fourth quarter player, better gamer, better right
Speaker 1: now today, right, zach Lavine is a future with a D.
Speaker 1: When Lebron goes, you know, he's only okay with a D.
Speaker 1: He is a highlight reel so he can put people
Speaker 1: in them seats on that fast break right, you know,
Speaker 1: damorrow at thirty two, thirty three years old, you know,
Speaker 1: I need somethingwhere I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: Gil I think the Lakers like we're trying to win
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: We're not worried about when Lebron's gone, we'll worry, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll worry about getting somebody to pay with a D.
Speaker 1: But right now, we got a thirty eight year old
Speaker 1: about to be a thirty nine year old Lebron James.
Speaker 2: Who's still at the peak of his powers.
Speaker 1: Let's get someone right now, and we'll cross the bridge
Speaker 1: a little later. But right now, let's add let's start
Speaker 1: on our march across the bridge. Well, then then then
Speaker 1: you shrink the floor a little bit more because because
Speaker 1: the roads in it's more of a mid range threat.
Speaker 2: Right, So he can shoot the three, but he doesn't
Speaker 2: shoot the three. Right, No, that's not his.
Speaker 1: He's my he's my finisher. Damn if you do, Damn
Speaker 1: if you don't.
Speaker 2: You know, I like Xavine Levigne because he can pack
Speaker 2: the rim. He could, he got his lobs, so you
Speaker 2: you don't lose. You don't lose with it.
Speaker 1: But if I had more shooting, I'll take I'll take Damar.
Speaker 1: But since I don't, I want to take Zach Levin
Speaker 1: so he can open the floor more for Lebron and ad.
Speaker 2: What what what?
Speaker 1: What did they say about you're gonna because they believe
Speaker 1: Last year what really hurt him is that the lack
Speaker 1: of depth and right now they have a very deep
Speaker 1: team now you believe that they Okay, I will trade
Speaker 1: some of that depth in order to get a better
Speaker 1: piece to put with Lebron in a d.
Speaker 2: As you say, de where just woll I don't want
Speaker 2: the bitch on me. You can use them. Well, I
Speaker 2: think they're looking at defenders.
Speaker 1: They're looking at Van do O, They're looking at Tyrian Prince,
Speaker 1: they're looking at Cam Reddish as your mainly defenders. Now
Speaker 1: Cam has shown a propensity and lately he's knocked down
Speaker 1: the corner three. He's really good at the corner three.
Speaker 1: Prince is gone through a hot streak over the last
Speaker 1: three to four games. He seemingly can't miss from the three.
Speaker 1: But if you give up those three players, you are
Speaker 1: gonna shrink your bench some And although we know come
Speaker 1: playoff time, you shrink your bench automatically anyway, so we're
Speaker 1: not worried about that come playoff time.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Burn through Lebron's minutes and his legs playing him a
Speaker 1: ton of minutes before you get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Correct, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: The facts it's that's that's the real problem right now
Speaker 1: is you know, just like tonight's game, right, you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're up twenty, up eighteen in the fourth and
Speaker 1: a sorry team comes back, right because you don't.
Speaker 2: Have that you think you have yet. They're good when
Speaker 2: Lebron's on, but they're not good by themselves. I'm like.
Speaker 1: The fact that they didn't shoot for the no one
Speaker 1: else shot free throws until the end of the game,
Speaker 1: right when Prince got fouled.
Speaker 2: Yes, filling at the end.
Speaker 1: Other than that, that means for forty seven minutes, no
Speaker 1: one one attack that basket to get fouled. How right,
Speaker 1: That's not even possible. The only if you really look
Speaker 1: at it, the only people that's really capable of attacking
Speaker 1: the basket is Delo and Austin Reeves once Lebron is out,
Speaker 1: those are really your only two guys that's looking to
Speaker 1: put the ball on the floor, put their head down
Speaker 1: and can get to the rim finish on either side. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously they don't have the layup package like a Kyrie
Speaker 1: or Steph Curry or Luke or something like that. But
Speaker 1: they will attack the basket. We know Lebron is looking
Speaker 1: to attack at every time. But what I did like
Speaker 1: about Ad Ad kept pressure on him.
Speaker 2: Ad is not settling.
Speaker 1: You know last year Ad was shooting that fall away.
Speaker 1: He falling away. No, Ad, get your big old butt
Speaker 1: down there on the block. I'm not you know, you're
Speaker 1: not joeling Beid, But get down there and punish them
Speaker 1: smaller guys. I like the fact that they I understand
Speaker 1: you a shop blocker, wimbley, but you ain't ready for this.
Speaker 1: You you got you needed about four five more years
Speaker 1: on you get seasoned because you're not right now. I
Speaker 1: got to give it to a d because he's doing
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do against weaker They take this right.
Speaker 1: That's what we've been complaining about when you have read
Speaker 1: players on you. Yes, punish him, fats, that's what they for.
Speaker 1: That's what they in the game for. Yes, in a
Speaker 1: game to get this wood been to make better players
Speaker 1: later on in life.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that since Ad is playing the
Speaker 1: way we expected him for the last three years to play, we.
Speaker 2: Can lay off of him a little bit and look
Speaker 2: at the rest of our line now.
Speaker 1: I think because we paid attention so much to Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis that we really haven't been watching what we've been
Speaker 1: collecting over the years. I think the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: is that it's that we expect so much of him
Speaker 1: and we saw what he was given because when they
Speaker 1: traded for him before the Pelicans and he you know,
Speaker 1: they fell out with each other, AD was averaging like
Speaker 1: twenty nine to twelve, So we know what he's capable
Speaker 1: of doing. We saw the man get a sixty twenty game,
Speaker 1: so we know what he's capable of. Nobody just cared
Speaker 1: because he's in New Orleans. But when you come to
Speaker 1: the big stage of the Purple and Goal and that's
Speaker 1: the home of the big man Micn and Chamberlain and
Speaker 1: Jabbar and Shaq Row, you you got to play on
Speaker 1: a nightly back.
Speaker 2: There are no not off nights when you play for
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Any other team you might can have an
Speaker 2: off night, but not the Purple and Goal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If Jianni's wasn't playing, if Yanni's Yokish and NB, if
Speaker 1: they wasn't ball and getting the MVPs, I think we
Speaker 1: wouldn't be on Anthony Davis so much. I think it's
Speaker 1: an American thing right now. But Gil, do you remember
Speaker 1: what Ad did to Jokic in the bubble? I know,
Speaker 1: did you remember what he went down at that playoff
Speaker 1: right before, and what he did to Jannis and what
Speaker 1: he did to Empeed?
Speaker 2: I know, those are the expectations.
Speaker 1: That you can't give us forty and sixteen one night
Speaker 1: and give us eleven and eight the next year.
Speaker 2: We just can't have that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying give us forty twenty back to back night,
Speaker 1: but you can't give us forty and sixteen one night
Speaker 1: level to eight the next one. Head Hey them, young body, listen,
Speaker 1: you're giving them young boys that headache. And they growing
Speaker 1: up now not even want that smoke. They want that
Speaker 1: smoke backs. And that's that's the problem of that. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you killing you kill him when they're young, when they
Speaker 1: get old enough to defend themselves, they want that smoke back.
Speaker 2: That's all, Oh oh yeah, I gotta get my link back.
Speaker 2: I got to get that back.
Speaker 1: Then we don't yoh no, no, no, you're not fit
Speaker 1: to drop forty ten, forty and fifteen on me if
Speaker 1: they goin't gonna get my lick backs? Uh. Someone named
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson just donated two hundred dollars saying I love
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh Joe, oh Joe, Hey, hey man, stop
Speaker 1: running around like hey, stop run around telling everybody you
Speaker 1: beat me.
Speaker 2: We we know we're supposed to keep supposed to keep
Speaker 2: that on the low time. Noah.
Speaker 1: They called him tell it for a reason because if
Speaker 1: he do it, he gonna tell it.
Speaker 2: He was fast. I ain't know he was that fast.
Speaker 1: Oh he fast. Now I got I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I got that work by some football players. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie like because I wasn't expecting them to do
Speaker 1: what they can do right and then and they'll live
Speaker 1: stromman in the average basketball player. Hey poor was Porter
Speaker 1: Porter the ride receiver from Oakland?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, Jeedart Yeah, Jed Porter Man
Speaker 2: he he he he dropped step monkey dunked on me
Speaker 2: like I was a little kid. Man. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh man, who is dude? Man?
Speaker 1: That was playing like some little all star game and
Speaker 1: he drops that just boom like oh wow, No, No,
Speaker 1: I ain't no taking this from these crept No take this.
Speaker 2: A Wimby said before the game.
Speaker 1: He prefers Bronze nickname of Alien over unicorn, He said,
Speaker 1: I hate I hate it when people call me a unicorn.
Speaker 1: I must rather people call me an alien. Unicorn really
Speaker 1: isn't original. What did you what did you take away?
Speaker 1: What did you like about Wimby? What did you saw? Like?
Speaker 1: Because he was going against one of the better players,
Speaker 1: and ad can score and he can defend, and he
Speaker 1: gave him thirty and what thirty and thirteen?
Speaker 2: Thirty and twelve? Now hey, hey.
Speaker 1: He's coming like he's tapping into his ability, he's tapping
Speaker 1: into what his gift is.
Speaker 2: And you know, once you get through.
Speaker 1: The NBA games and you realize what you see on
Speaker 1: TV ain't all Superman, right, anybody ain't Superman from your TV.
Speaker 2: Everybody looked good on TV. Yeah close.
Speaker 1: You start seeing their weaknesses and you start feeling filling
Speaker 1: the game for yourself, like I belong. Yeah, like all
Speaker 1: It takes this one game, one moment for to click
Speaker 1: on and say, yo, I'm a part of this. I
Speaker 1: can I can't play here. Ojo said he can play
Speaker 1: for the Heat right now. They got a G league.
Speaker 1: They got a G League.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the talent over it? Every man? They're
Speaker 2: that man? Oh yeah, that's a ymc ach and we
Speaker 2: all can play for them.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're having dribbled a basketball in probably ten years,
Speaker 1: and you know about any Oh Joe, And what I
Speaker 1: try to tell people, it's hard no matter what profession
Speaker 1: you hear, especially if it's a skill for profession where
Speaker 1: you're using your hands, our coordination, you just can't sit
Speaker 1: that down. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna sit this
Speaker 1: down for three or four years, then just come back
Speaker 1: and pick it up and pick up where you left off. No, no, nah,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But the players ain't got over there. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you got a chance. With the players on it,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be in well, good conditioned, right, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to put the McDonald's down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: The NBA is suspending Draymond Green and definitely Joe dumar Is,
Speaker 1: the NBA executive president and the head of basketball Operations,
Speaker 1: said Drake repeated the history of unsportsmanlike unsportsmanlike acts was
Speaker 1: considered in the decision to suspend him indefinitely. This is
Speaker 1: the sixth time in his career he's been suspended. Draymond
Speaker 1: is expected to receive counseling and work with the Warriors
Speaker 1: in NBA while suspended, he has met the criteria he
Speaker 1: has to meet criteria before returning to the court, but
Speaker 1: Chris Hayines report that Draymond will be allowed to continue
Speaker 1: practicing while serving his suspension.
Speaker 2: But damn, what kind of holl up?
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me I could commit a
Speaker 1: crime and I could continue to work, continue to go.
Speaker 2: Do what I do and then you know, and not
Speaker 2: go to jail. I mean, what what? What is this? So?
Speaker 1: So basically he ain't suspended suspended right right, I'm off,
Speaker 1: he's just taking some time off.
Speaker 2: Hey this is uh was it a load load managed?
Speaker 2: Load management? This load management? But he's just not getting paid. Huh.
Speaker 1: Hey, man, listen, I don't aid that may be triggering.
Speaker 1: It depends on who's suspended them. Well, I think the
Speaker 1: league suspended him. But dra gotta stop this. He gotta
Speaker 1: stop this. I mean, come on now, I get it.
Speaker 1: But one of my problems is why is the Warriors involved?
Speaker 1: Because it's you that's allowed this to go on. I
Speaker 1: would have thought after Drake got suspended in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: for game forget what game was that? Game five? Game
Speaker 1: five he said, I cost my team a championship. I
Speaker 1: can't put myself in my team in that predicament again,
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, he constantly does it.
Speaker 2: So I'm just.
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out where's the disconnect between dre and
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, he's spoke, he's the heartbeat,
Speaker 1: he's the enforcer, but he's going over the line continuously.
Speaker 1: You're right, listen, you can't turn it off. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: You have to be.
Speaker 1: Able to take the good with the bad. No different
Speaker 1: than Dennis Rodman. You turn off what you don't like
Speaker 1: might turn off what you do like. Right, So with Draymond,
Speaker 1: he's reacting in real time. Right when you look at
Speaker 1: the things he's doing, it's it's not like you can
Speaker 1: see it building up. There's no build up to this.
Speaker 1: This is just reaction in real time and then boom explode.
Speaker 1: So what's happening is if you take away and you
Speaker 1: start making him think, you might lose the heartbeat.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the only problem. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like aggression, but I love controlled aggression because right
Speaker 1: now it's uncontrollable.
Speaker 2: He's a taking time bomb.
Speaker 1: So you know, everybody got the dogs that you know,
Speaker 1: when somebody come in, he's like, he's growling and everything,
Speaker 1: and it's all funny game until he bites someone and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's not funny anymore.
Speaker 2: It's not cute anymore. And that's what's happening with Draymond.
Speaker 1: He go up to the line you could even look over,
Speaker 1: but you can't step over at what point in time
Speaker 1: because you know what, they're gonna tolerate that they can
Speaker 1: replace it at some point in time, they're gonna break
Speaker 1: this thing up. And we're gonna talk about Clay a
Speaker 1: little later because right now, the only one that's that's
Speaker 1: worth being there is kind of is Steph Ain't no
Speaker 1: kind of it is step But Dramond he continually put
Speaker 1: and I could see if he had done this and
Speaker 1: they got KD, they still got enough to overcome it.
Speaker 1: But in this situation, this is not the Golden State
Speaker 1: Warriors of twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen. They can't
Speaker 1: overcome this. When you if they were seventeen and three,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even care, but the fact that they struggling.
Speaker 2: Would he have done this at seventeen and three, because.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, yeah, he gonna do this no matter what.
Speaker 2: It's who he is.
Speaker 1: It's who he's always been, right, So the ticking tom
Speaker 1: bomb that's ticking all the time, and that's what makes
Speaker 1: him great. The reason I can't like if I'm talking
Speaker 1: to him, I can't tell him. I can't convince him
Speaker 1: to say, hey, man, you're gonna have to calm it down.
Speaker 1: When I got in trouble in the locker room and
Speaker 1: I told myself, don't be Agent zero no more. Because
Speaker 1: Agent zero himself was a daredevil, right, I was a you.
Speaker 2: Hey. You said, hey, I'm about to jump off the building.
Speaker 2: I said, you make it here. I come to next?
Speaker 2: Fun right, right? Fun? You could. You can dare me
Speaker 2: to do anything. Right. But that's what got me in trouble.
Speaker 1: So if I don't want that person anymore, I got
Speaker 1: to take away my whole aggression.
Speaker 2: So then I became docile.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not I'm not the same person no more.
Speaker 1: So when Lakers like, yeah, we need Agent zero, he
Speaker 1: no longer hit you don't couldn't be happen with the leader.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, But but let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: How long?
Speaker 1: How much longer are the Warriors gonna tolerate this because
Speaker 1: this seems to me they're at their with seeing because
Speaker 1: he's become he's becoming more problem than he's worth. If
Speaker 1: I'm winning championships, I'm making deep playoff runs. It all
Speaker 1: depends on where you're trying to go moving forward. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to break this thing up, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: If you're if you're trying to build, like okay, within
Speaker 1: the next three years, we're trying to get back to
Speaker 1: the championship, you gotta keep them right.
Speaker 2: Trade Clay, get.
Speaker 1: Rid of Wiggins, try to get it into Paul George
Speaker 1: and try to make a trade to put step back
Speaker 1: in position to win. Then you need Draymond. But if
Speaker 1: you're gonna break this whole thing up, Draymond got to
Speaker 1: go first.
Speaker 2: This thing like a marriage, Gil.
Speaker 1: You know, you see a lot of professional athletes get
Speaker 1: a divorce once they done with it because all of
Speaker 1: a sudden them far and smell it. They don't they
Speaker 1: they you ain't making self eight ten million dollars. They're
Speaker 1: a little steakier.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I ain't got to put up with this. You hanging
Speaker 1: out with your bone. I could tolerate that. When you
Speaker 1: bring a home twenty million. Now you ain't bringing home
Speaker 1: twenty million. I can't tolerated as much as I once could,
Speaker 1: So I need we need to go out separate ways. Well, Draymond,
Speaker 1: we could tolerate this when you help us win four
Speaker 1: championships in six years and we were the freehim and
Speaker 1: the team in the NBA. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we've kind of falling on hard times, Draymond.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could tolerate it like I
Speaker 2: once good. Hey, they like they like a marriage when
Speaker 2: your career is over with.
Speaker 1: Hey, we've all seen it. We've all seen it. Hey, hey, man,
Speaker 1: hey brother, you married. You need to go home. Man,
Speaker 1: she cool with it, and she cool you doing.
Speaker 2: He Now all of a sudden you ain't. You ain't
Speaker 2: making that money no more.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you not in the livelight no more,
Speaker 1: and you come home?
Speaker 2: Where the hell you being?
Speaker 1: Hey, just a year ago I was out with the party.
Speaker 1: Wasn't the problem? Every problem?
Speaker 2: Now? Hey, you want me to be docile, you better
Speaker 2: get back in the league.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you better be normal. The thirty women
Speaker 1: you had been folk better go down to this just
Speaker 1: me right, And that's just how it is. But someone
Speaker 1: said that. I don't I forgot who said it. Said
Speaker 1: the referees are eavesdropping on their conversation. But I think
Speaker 1: the refs are trying to keep it because we know,
Speaker 1: we know what talking leads to, gil because somebody go
Speaker 1: say something, go get the feelings hurt.
Speaker 2: That's just the way we that's just the way we wire.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, that's football. Y'all win like that,
Speaker 1: y'all fighting people with your helmet on, with your helmet off.
Speaker 1: No no, no, y'all feel like that. We got some sense
Speaker 1: a little bit. But y'all, no, you see, I'm like
Speaker 1: this right here. The choke cost him eight hundred, right.
Speaker 2: This is gonna cost some millions if he don't get
Speaker 2: his shipped together.
Speaker 1: So NBA players were not really trying to fight the
Speaker 1: refs dropping.
Speaker 2: Is that is the problem, Like.
Speaker 1: You're trying to stop us from doing what when most
Speaker 1: things that happen or or a reaction, and most of
Speaker 1: the things that's happened is because of y'all are not
Speaker 1: calling that whistle. Right, if you do your job, we
Speaker 1: can do ours. But the fact that you don't want
Speaker 1: to do yours, and we sitting here going back and forth.
Speaker 2: They let let it happen. Let it okay, let it happen.
Speaker 1: You're trying to stop stuff from happening when most of
Speaker 1: the things are just right head on, a on an
Speaker 1: instant play. It ain't when we japping back and forth.
Speaker 1: When was Draymond talking to Nurdice? No, it is not
Speaker 1: a damn dang Rudy would he put him in that
Speaker 1: figure fold?
Speaker 2: Not a damn Well.
Speaker 1: They should have suspended Rudy Gobert's teammates for letting that happen.
Speaker 1: That's who should have got suspended because can't and and
Speaker 1: a man ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: You ain't running up on my teammate. No, no, you
Speaker 1: grab your teammate. I grab my teammate. You ain't touching
Speaker 1: my teammate. Facts like that's that's just the lay alone
Speaker 1: with you like Raymond did was correct. What happened was
Speaker 1: they grab you see what he did when they grabbed Clay. Oh,
Speaker 1: y'all got the I got your man, I got your man,
Speaker 1: I got your man.
Speaker 2: I won't out.
Speaker 1: That should have been an NBA orgy over that, bud.
Speaker 1: Check us out the Lakers N Season Tournament banner. Charles
Speaker 1: Barker said, you don't do champagne for N season tournament.
Speaker 1: If the Lakers put the N Season Tournament banner up,
Speaker 1: I'm going to roast their answer on television.
Speaker 2: I got one question. Is it a championship, championship or not?
Speaker 2: It comes it says championship. The problem is we we
Speaker 2: don't know where this is gonna be moving forward.
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna be you think they're gonna do
Speaker 1: away with Let me ask you a question. Is it
Speaker 1: more or less likely they'll have an N season tournament
Speaker 1: next year and the next year and the next year.
Speaker 2: Or they're gonna do away with it? What's more likely?
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think this is in his
Speaker 1: en it seems successful.
Speaker 2: But why is Charles Barkley talking.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to ask him you ain't raised, No,
Speaker 1: you ain't raised no Bamer period.
Speaker 2: You know if he's laughing that that championship? Is he
Speaker 2: still giggling when Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 1: And ninety three put up the Western Conference banner because
Speaker 1: he was happy when that went up, exactly when the
Speaker 1: Ones in Philadelphia when they hung up his Western Conference band, well,
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference?
Speaker 2: Was he giggling? Is Stigling.
Speaker 1: No, no, so, because HER's the thing. What I've heard, Gil,
Speaker 1: is that it's gimmicky. Let me tell you something, and
Speaker 1: I'm old enough. I'm a little older you a Gil.
Speaker 1: I know something that they instituted in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Chris Ford was the first one to make one, the
Speaker 1: three point shot. They say it's gimmicky. They need to
Speaker 1: do away with it.
Speaker 2: Now, if you can't shoot the three, you compare to
Speaker 2: play on the court in the NBA game. So how's that.
Speaker 1: No, that's that's facts, Like they don't pay attention to history,
Speaker 1: like there was no there was no shot blocking back
Speaker 1: when you know Wilton was doing it.
Speaker 2: So the fact that they're improving the game.
Speaker 1: Streeline got moved in, yes, two feet right, So this
Speaker 1: is the first.
Speaker 2: Year of it.
Speaker 1: Twenty years now you're gonna we're gonna be sitting here
Speaker 1: talking about, Oh he got twenty in season tournaments and
Speaker 1: five NBA just the first one.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 1: I had told I totally agree because I believe it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the play in tournament. They said the
Speaker 1: play in tournament was gimmick kick. Now look at it, yep,
Speaker 1: and that that counts as a playoff appearance for the
Speaker 1: test was even the playoffs, and the Lakers gotten the
Speaker 1: play in tournament and it went all the way to
Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals.
Speaker 2: So it is out try. I think he last.
Speaker 1: The problem that I got is that people pick and
Speaker 1: choose because I think the problem that they got that
Speaker 1: Lebron won because had Lebron had not won it, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't we wouldn't have any problems. Everybody would have been
Speaker 1: cool with it. Because now that he win, it don't
Speaker 1: mean anything. Had he not won, he can't even win
Speaker 1: an end season tournament.
Speaker 2: Now that's facts.
Speaker 1: If if Denver would have won, it just continues with
Speaker 1: their dominance from last year. If if Anyanni Pacers would
Speaker 1: have wanted it would have got some TNT games or
Speaker 1: ESPN extra games, moving moving further in the season.
Speaker 2: So it is that Lebron's wanted. But that's what's gonna
Speaker 2: make it sick. Right, But here's the let me ask
Speaker 2: you this. You played against Kobe.
Speaker 1: So in other words, in Jordan, and as competitive as
Speaker 1: they were, they tell the story that Jordan uh Roy
Speaker 1: Williams told the story that he beat Jordan and Pool
Speaker 1: and Jordan woul't play pool for two weeks and people
Speaker 1: have told the story of Jordan and he quit and
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do this, He wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: And we know how ultra competitive Kobe was.
Speaker 1: So if they'd had this thing, if David Sterny had
Speaker 1: instituted this, so Jordan going boycot Sai man, I ain't
Speaker 1: playing this gimmicky thing.
Speaker 2: What's Kobe gonna do? Said? Now, I ain't playing this
Speaker 2: gimmeck you thing? Or are they gonna try and win?
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. The reason because as long as
Speaker 1: it's there, they're gonna try to win it. Jordan's winning
Speaker 1: them bull those team is gonna win it if Kobe
Speaker 1: is in the position and when he's gonna win it.
Speaker 1: But Kobe was the same person who was arguing about
Speaker 1: the new ball that came in.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he said and he he said this, he said,
Speaker 2: if Jordan didn't play.
Speaker 1: With it, I don't want to play with it. Don't enhance,
Speaker 1: don't help me try to break records. Let me do
Speaker 1: it on my own.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If Jordan didn't have this this ball that helps them
Speaker 1: f in don't get that ship to me.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons that the ball got boycotted.
Speaker 1: Because they're like those guys are like, nah, I don't
Speaker 1: want it if Jordan didn't have it, because the ball
Speaker 1: went from spauling it used to be spauling and NW
Speaker 1: it's Wilson, I'm correct. Yeah, but this was a spauting ball.
Speaker 1: It was that fusion ball. Yeah, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: that feebball.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Hey, I ain't gonna lie. Hey, you let
Speaker 2: it go with it.
Speaker 1: Gave them motherfucker sie sing that one fifty all I
Speaker 1: was doing working that ball. George Call. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: really sick of George Call. I've never met the man,
Speaker 1: but I'm already thick of him.
Speaker 2: He tweeted.
Speaker 1: The bubble banner in season banner stitch together would be
Speaker 1: like one whole banner.
Speaker 2: Boy, you didn't win anything, you know what. I just want.
Speaker 1: I just want some can somebody can. One former player
Speaker 1: tweet supportive of George Kall. Is there any of these
Speaker 1: players that like him to play for him? This is George,
Speaker 1: This is Matthew's right, This Matthews, Matthews, George George ca.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, when you don't like him, got to say his
Speaker 1: middle name, George, Matthew, Matthew. Yeah, Matthew call, yeah, the one,
Speaker 1: the one, the one who benched Kobe when he was
Speaker 1: eighteen that uh in that an All Star game and
Speaker 1: Kobe hated him since average thirty two points a game
Speaker 1: and seventeen matches in the playoffs. And and George call
Speaker 1: with them dynasty teams he was having.
Speaker 2: The man won five, He had five fifty plus seasons.
Speaker 1: Out of nine times to the playoffs, he was out
Speaker 1: the first round eight of them.
Speaker 2: That goes, yeah, he should go on here, shut up.
Speaker 2: And I think he was.
Speaker 1: I think he might have been the first, the first
Speaker 1: one seed to lose to an eight seed when the
Speaker 1: Nuggets beat the beat the SuperSonics. Sir, he's ninety four.
Speaker 1: He's an underachiever. Hey, we should actually we should thank him.
Speaker 1: We should thank him for ninety two. See, people don't
Speaker 1: know Matthew was coaching the Spain team in ninety two, right,
Speaker 1: that's where he won. He got a championship in ninety
Speaker 1: two over in Spain. Okay, t yeah, but he was
Speaker 1: coaching those players that MJ was running through. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know when we beat them about forty one. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was your team. Again, Gil, we know
Speaker 1: why the Bubble don't hold significance to a lot of
Speaker 1: people who won who won the championship in the bubble?
Speaker 2: Ron, had anybody else won?
Speaker 1: Because what I heard, what people have been trying to
Speaker 1: tell me for the longest, that Lebron James is the
Speaker 1: most mentally weak in the NBA player that they've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But he was the only guy and keep his team
Speaker 1: and himself in that confined in that confined space.
Speaker 2: For three plus months.
Speaker 1: So if you're so mentally weak where you can't go nowhere,
Speaker 1: you got cabin fever at the Ying Yang? How was
Speaker 1: he able to stay so mentally focused while all the
Speaker 1: mentally tough teams and players succumb to the pressure, Because
Speaker 1: mentally weak is something people just throw around because of
Speaker 1: tweets and stuff. Right, Nick week is is what the
Speaker 1: Clippers were, Right, Oh, I don't want to be here?
Speaker 2: Why should I go there? I'm scared for that's mentally weak.
Speaker 1: When when you're talking about being in a jungle fighting
Speaker 1: against players that are saying in I'm just here to win, right, Right,
Speaker 1: You've seen what Booker did in the bubble, right, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't aid to know mentally strong that the guys who
Speaker 1: went there just to go there. They were mentally strong
Speaker 1: right now. From there, it's about bast the week, the
Speaker 1: the mentally, we.
Speaker 2: Didn't focus on basketball. They complained about everything but the
Speaker 2: game itself, right right, And that's the problem. Like you're
Speaker 2: mad at the team who was more disciplined, that's all. Yeah, Clippers.
Speaker 1: You can be mad all your wont Clipper fans, you
Speaker 1: can be mad at your want, but your team is
Speaker 1: the one who's complaining about everything.
Speaker 2: We can't go to the strip club. We can't do that.
Speaker 2: We can't do that.
Speaker 1: That's been But if you notice they didn't want all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you notice they didn't want to be
Speaker 1: there once they got kicked out and they was up
Speaker 1: three to one. Now when they was up to to one,
Speaker 1: they was up three to one. Well, all we want
Speaker 1: to be here. This ay, this is what it's about.
Speaker 1: We're playing the game we love, no distraction, you get
Speaker 1: chased down and all of a sudden, we ain't want
Speaker 1: to be here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We had checked out and we heard people say it
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna matter, so we checked out.
Speaker 2: I heard that. Now they listen, listen, listen. They checked
Speaker 2: out just like Doc Rivers checked out, right they checked it.
Speaker 1: They checked all their asses out of that hotel. So,
Speaker 1: in other words, they called Doc his job. Doc cast
Speaker 1: himself that job. He had three to one playing golf
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 2: But but Gil, the players just said that they want
Speaker 2: to be there. Hey, hey, this true story. Uh. Game seven,
Speaker 2: Game seven?
Speaker 1: Uh, they come in the locker room, everybody focused, not
Speaker 1: talking about his golf score that he did early today,
Speaker 1: not the game itself. So he was speaking on just
Speaker 1: his golfing and somebody mentioned to him, I hope you
Speaker 1: ready to coach today because if you lose, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem. Because he was not focused on the game. Man,
Speaker 1: that was out of that Listen during the game. I
Speaker 1: heard during the game he doesn't he doesn't hit ellen Brand.
Speaker 1: Hey man, you got a job open for me?
Speaker 2: What what I'm throwing a little extra in halftime? Yeah later?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like the Drake kind of like the Draymond
Speaker 1: situation when he's in the parking lot and he called
Speaker 1: a katie after lebron chased him down three.
Speaker 2: What very simple situation. You know. I added a little
Speaker 2: yeas to the story. So the growth, but you'll get
Speaker 2: the idea of it. You got it.
Speaker 1: Clay Klay Thompson turned down a preseason contract this summer
Speaker 1: worth forty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2: How big of a mistake was that?
Speaker 1: At first on I was I was like, man, that
Speaker 1: was dumb, right, I thought it was. But when you're
Speaker 1: making forty three and you jumped down to twenty four
Speaker 1: being Klay Thompson, right, I'd rather take my chances in
Speaker 1: free agency, right. I think financially it's a better move
Speaker 1: because no matter what he averaged this year fifteen and above,
Speaker 1: he can get two years forty eight, right, he.
Speaker 2: Can get that.
Speaker 1: So if I know, no matter what I do this year,
Speaker 1: my name Lay Thompson, I'm averaging anything from fifteen to twenty,
Speaker 1: the least I can get is two years forty eight.
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna sign this.
Speaker 1: Deal, okay, because I think what's happening is that they
Speaker 1: see all the money. See what the worst thing you
Speaker 1: can do is measure your words by somebody else's contract.
Speaker 1: And what they're seeing is that these guys are getting money,
Speaker 1: and I'm better than him.
Speaker 2: I'm better than him.
Speaker 1: And he got five years one eighty five, he got
Speaker 1: six years and this and that or five three years
Speaker 1: or whatever, and now all of a sudden, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm better than him, and y'all only offered me this
Speaker 1: because everybody wants a max contract at thirty four, thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty six, and you and our both No, Gill, that's
Speaker 1: not happening.
Speaker 2: Unless you are the elite or the elite of the elite.
Speaker 1: Now, Lebron, guess what they'll probably get Lebron two more years,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five meegues facts, but he's still
Speaker 1: playing at that level.
Speaker 2: Clay can't look at.
Speaker 1: It and says, well, I want four championships in six years.
Speaker 2: Well, we already gave you a max contract for that.
Speaker 1: We got to pay you now based on what we
Speaker 1: believe you would do in twenty four, twenty five, twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six.
Speaker 2: I can't pay you based on what you've done.
Speaker 1: I gotta play pay you based on what I believe
Speaker 1: you can do now. Actually, correction, they are gonna they
Speaker 1: paid him.
Speaker 2: Off what he did in the last four years. Right twist.
Speaker 1: Nineteen twenty zero, he ain't play no games. He ain't
Speaker 1: play no games. Twenty twenty one he played thirty two games.
Speaker 1: Twenty one twenty two where they won a championship, He
Speaker 1: played sixty nine games last year and he's playing twenty two.
Speaker 1: So basically in those four years, he played one hundred
Speaker 1: and one games. Right, you worked forty eight million for
Speaker 1: two years. You know what I think?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 1: You know what I think screwed him up? You know,
Speaker 1: I think screwed him up. This contract right.
Speaker 2: Here, three year ninety three million out of Middleton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the money.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad paying Clay three year ninety three.
Speaker 1: I think if they would have offered him three year
Speaker 1: ninety three the same as Middleton, I think he.
Speaker 2: Would have He would have took that. Now I can't
Speaker 2: but but here's the thing. Is he worth that? Now?
Speaker 1: I can't hate it. It was Middleton worth it well
Speaker 1: the same amount.
Speaker 2: They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't expect Middleton to have those knee issues because Middleture,
Speaker 1: remember Middleton and that that championship Midleicum geting people to
Speaker 1: gave that work business.
Speaker 2: He gave that work and then.
Speaker 1: He had that And the worst thing that really can
Speaker 1: happen is that you have an injury that you have
Speaker 1: to get opened up and your in your mid thirties. Yeah, now, Jil,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Now you you don't have the youth
Speaker 1: and recoverability on your side because once you because you
Speaker 1: already got up and down a lot, you got a
Speaker 1: lot of knowledge on those on those on that leg,
Speaker 1: on those legs, and now you have to go get
Speaker 1: me the scope or you get a maniscus or whatever
Speaker 1: the surgery is.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to overcome that. I mean, at
Speaker 2: thirty three men, you know, trying to He's out a
Speaker 2: four year deal to put it to thirty seven. I
Speaker 2: know that's the ideal, but it's one of.
Speaker 1: Those things where the bottom line is two year forty eight,
Speaker 1: and I know he's not starting off the season.
Speaker 2: The where he would have hoped. Right I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: he wished you.
Speaker 1: Would be averaged about twenty five right now, where he
Speaker 1: can they can get this deal done right now so
Speaker 1: he can get some stress off. But the fact that
Speaker 1: he's playing horrible is forty eight is a two year
Speaker 1: forty eight even on the table now. No, No, if
Speaker 1: i'm them, if i'm them to be honest, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just wait till he goes. If he keeps the same
Speaker 1: fifteen and nineteen, I'm gonna left.
Speaker 2: I'm an left free agency dictate.
Speaker 1: What he's gonna get, and then I'll just match it, right, Okay, Right,
Speaker 1: I mean I might lose them. I might lose them,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be banking on this.
Speaker 2: Is where he lives.
Speaker 1: The only team I can really lose Clay to, it's
Speaker 1: probably a Los Angeles Lakers, probably I can. That's who
Speaker 1: I'll be worried about. But then I'll probably throw in
Speaker 1: some extra lean on that he's been here four years.
Speaker 2: This is where he's been because because.
Speaker 1: Considered the Laker will probably be only maybe they'll go.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll go that extra year and maybe not twenty four.
Speaker 1: Maybe that extra year they'll partially guarantee it. So instead
Speaker 1: of the full the full twenty four, maybe we guarantee
Speaker 1: sixteen of it. Hey, they got the money to do
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do. Yeah, well both of shit,
Speaker 1: both got money. But I'm just leaning on. I'm leaning
Speaker 1: on just hey, what's gonna happen? Though they could they could,
Speaker 1: they could mess up. Let's say, with Draymond's already gone.
Speaker 1: If if Steph missed some times and Clay get in
Speaker 1: about averaging about twenty eight to twenty nine a game
Speaker 1: for about fifteen to twenty games span whoa.
Speaker 2: Is he still that guy? Ogill?
Speaker 1: Is he still capable of doing that? Because you got
Speaker 1: that that acl and that Achilles. It robbed it. He
Speaker 1: robbed him of some of what Clay was an outstanding
Speaker 1: two way player. And granted, as as any player, as
Speaker 1: they start to age, they can't sit in the chair
Speaker 1: like they once could for an extended period of time.
Speaker 1: And you said something very interested. It made me think,
Speaker 1: is that you said Clay never improved his game from
Speaker 1: being a catch and shoot. You know, got spot up
Speaker 1: god hey, and he's great at it. But my retort
Speaker 1: to you, how difficult is it to get a guy
Speaker 1: to do something different when he's had such success doing
Speaker 1: it that way? Why would I improve? Why would I
Speaker 1: Why would I take it with something? Why would I improve?
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know you see Steph. Steph added
Speaker 1: the layup package. Because Steph used to be an outside
Speaker 1: that got outside the paint got Now Steph added a
Speaker 1: layup package. He's even more damn you hug up on him,
Speaker 1: Steph and go by. You got great handles and can
Speaker 1: finished with either hand on either side of the rim.
Speaker 2: Clay hasn't didn't take his game to that level. It's
Speaker 2: it's a personal thing.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you working out to improve or you
Speaker 1: working out to get stats and get achievements? Right, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want someone who works hard, right, I want
Speaker 1: a worker that means their their self improvement is what
Speaker 1: they build their their foundation on. Oh you number one
Speaker 1: right now, right right, gonna stop you from working every
Speaker 1: hell now, I'm trying to maintain that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying the same thing.
Speaker 1: Like when if I see a flaw in my game,
Speaker 1: when I go into the summer and I look at Synergy, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know I'm going right, I'm bad at the left,
Speaker 1: I'm bad at this corner the first three the first
Speaker 1: two months of the summer. Right, That's what I'm attacking.
Speaker 1: I'm attacking those weaknesses, right. I hide behind championships MVPs.
Speaker 2: Because the greats didn't.
Speaker 1: The greats improved every year after every year. Today couldn't
Speaker 1: prove anymore. And that's where I don't see Clay. I
Speaker 1: don't see Clay improving. Yeah, you got four rings, Cool,
Speaker 1: you have a scoring title.
Speaker 2: That's what you do.
Speaker 1: You should be trying to get scoring titles. You should
Speaker 1: be trying to be the main on a team. That's
Speaker 1: how you should be going into the summer working averaging
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty one your whole career. That's cool, right,
Speaker 1: But what about like, okay, as I start to get older,
Speaker 1: let me add something to it. Maybe not let me
Speaker 1: maybe now, let me put the ball on the floor
Speaker 1: and take it instead, you know, And I understand the
Speaker 1: three point is more valuable than the two. But let
Speaker 1: me put the ball on the floor and maybe I
Speaker 1: can get to the rim because people are going to
Speaker 1: look to chase me off the three instead instead of
Speaker 1: side stepping to clear space. Maybe I put the ball,
Speaker 1: take two three dribbles and maybe you know, kids it
Speaker 1: off the glass from twelve there. What's so funny is
Speaker 1: I remember when I had I value Clay more valuable than.
Speaker 2: Steph at the beginning of that dynasty, I.
Speaker 1: Said, well, one A six, seven, as long if he
Speaker 1: can learn how to dribble the ball, I can put
Speaker 1: him at the point and then get a bigger shooting guard.
Speaker 1: I've been saying the same thing, learn how to dribble, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you do right here?
Speaker 2: You you've learned that since she was little. That doesn't
Speaker 2: go nowhere.
Speaker 1: If Steph Curry took the summer off of shooting and
Speaker 1: worked on ball handling and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's still gonna be Steph Curry, Right, you don't lose that.
Speaker 1: I can go to yard right now and make seventy
Speaker 1: five out of one hundred, and I ain't shot in months.
Speaker 2: I'm lying. I'm lying, y'all. Yeah, I shot this morning.
Speaker 1: That lie exactly because you look at the cansel boy,
Speaker 1: you look at the cancel about, you look at the
Speaker 1: cancelerbody on the hustle.
Speaker 2: You're looking for the couple up. You're gonna come back.
Speaker 2: Shot man.
Speaker 1: I ain't shot, man, I ain't shot like three four months.
Speaker 2: I tried to get him up.
Speaker 1: I know you if somebody would go fall for that,
Speaker 1: KEO check this out. Katie has some very interesting things
Speaker 1: to say by Draded pros game presser. He said that
Speaker 1: was insane to see. Never seen that in an NBA game.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been that way when I was around or
Speaker 1: coming into the league.
Speaker 2: So I hope he gets the help that he needs. Bro.
Speaker 1: That's two people say Dre needs some help. Two people
Speaker 1: on the same team believe they said it. No that
Speaker 1: we've seen him do the antics. I think you know
Speaker 1: players like them, man, when when the.
Speaker 2: Team ain't good. The frustrations higher. Yes, I think his
Speaker 2: job as as the as the heart beat.
Speaker 1: I think it beats hard, harder, faster when you're losing,
Speaker 1: like he don't have no time to relax.
Speaker 2: Like he's trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: How to will this team the wins. When you win
Speaker 1: in every game, the antics don't come out. The antis
Speaker 1: is starting to come out when you when you're now,
Speaker 1: when you're losing and you know your backups against the wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gil, you know how this thing worked.
Speaker 1: You remember when you was going sixty seventy fifteen, when
Speaker 1: you was going seventy three or ninety, you beat the
Speaker 1: hell out of everybody. So guess what time, Well, guess
Speaker 1: what happened when it's time to get my lip click back.
Speaker 1: I tried to tear your ass up to and I'm
Speaker 1: trying all of you. Remember Gil in the third, the
Speaker 1: start of the point quarter, Hey, go to State Warriors,
Speaker 1: Stall playing Draymond Day on the sideline. They'll build up
Speaker 1: a thirty point lead. Our team's trying to build up
Speaker 1: those thirty point leads on bass. Yeah, and and he
Speaker 1: ain't going on without a fight, obviously, I said, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's Uh, it's it's a very unfortunate situation. But
Speaker 1: my thing is the Warriors. The only problem I got
Speaker 1: with this girl. Yeah, Draymond was wrong, but the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Draymond has been this exact way. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you want to intervene. Now that you want to have
Speaker 1: an intervention, it's like, okay, drey mind, we're gonna put
Speaker 1: an armored throw.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 1: Should have stopped this, y'all. Y'all let the man clip
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool. No matter what Jordan Poole said. He didn't
Speaker 1: deserve what Draymond did. But I fought Jordan Poole because
Speaker 1: you know, when you argue with a man, as long
Speaker 1: as you on one side, then we argue it. We fine,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna let you close the distance.
Speaker 2: Gill. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm getting that first one off and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let you walk up on me and then you shut Now,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna shove because the moment you see it at
Speaker 1: your peripheral and you could tell the different tone. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know out of this, but you could
Speaker 1: tell the tone when somebody like Okay, dude, dude, might
Speaker 1: want to do so Okay, So now I got to
Speaker 1: go to a different place mentally, because all of a
Speaker 1: sudden that on fun level, hed, you ain't gonna do thathing,
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna do thathing you do it on that
Speaker 1: talking Now, all of a sudden, I gotta let Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: What you're looking for. Yeah, we ain't. We ain't like that.
Speaker 2: Uh ain't that. We ain't. We ain't like that.
Speaker 1: And you right, you know what? Gain I keep you
Speaker 1: know what? And I've heard I've heard NBA players say that,
Speaker 1: But being in the NFL locker room, it's a different
Speaker 1: level of testosterone than machiesemo because even if a guy
Speaker 1: has to take an ass cutting, he's not gonna let
Speaker 1: you punk you. He's not gonna let you walk up
Speaker 1: on it because he first of all, he can't.
Speaker 2: He can't. You can't, you can't. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a d lineman and the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I don't care if it's a running back
Speaker 1: of the linebacker.
Speaker 2: Respect is everything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, see, when you only got fifteen players
Speaker 1: and really you count.
Speaker 2: On eight, right, for the most part, most.
Speaker 1: Of the stuff is not personal right right. You know,
Speaker 1: it's rare where I hate you on the court and
Speaker 1: off right, Like like me and Karan on the court,
Speaker 1: we bumped right off the court. Boom, we go right
Speaker 1: right off the court. Me and Antoine never hung out
Speaker 1: on the court. That's my goal to guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you know it's rare that you
Speaker 1: don't like each other off and off that and when
Speaker 1: that happens, you need to get traded.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Well, first of all, you punched me.
Speaker 1: Somebody got to go either I'm going to a different
Speaker 1: team or I'm going to jail, because we got to
Speaker 1: fight every day till.
Speaker 2: I'm win in. Hey, how do we like you? Huck
Speaker 2: bro Gil You not finna?
Speaker 1: Let no man, just punch you in your face and
Speaker 1: y'all go back and like, Okay, we're gonna play eighty
Speaker 1: two games together.
Speaker 2: That's why I had that thing in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Okay, they told you, Hey, listen, that was That wasn't
Speaker 1: the first time I remember Karen wanted to have a
Speaker 1: meeting with me.
Speaker 2: I had to thank on me in the locker room,
Speaker 2: just in case, just in case of Bob the case
Speaker 2: back up, back up.
Speaker 1: But I mean but kil I mean you had to feel.
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, you brought a desert egle. I have
Speaker 1: a desert ego, and I don't know what You gotta
Speaker 1: got the forty four mag while you got the fifty
Speaker 1: cown bro man, I think you pulled that bag. I
Speaker 1: liked the joke in the first Batman he called that
Speaker 1: they kept coming. Is that a shotgun with a pistol grip?
Speaker 1: I went that a head gun. Hey lady, I couldn't
Speaker 1: shoot him. I didn't shoot him. I just had him.
Speaker 1: You just tried to care. You just tried to scare
Speaker 1: him off.
Speaker 2: On scare. We ain't trying to fight out. We ain't
Speaker 2: gotta listen.
Speaker 1: We ain't got muscles like that to be trying to
Speaker 1: fight nobody. So he Hey, I just got the muscle
Speaker 1: to scare him off. I ain't really trying. I got
Speaker 1: old now. I have got too old a tumble girl.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lit to you. I got too old
Speaker 1: the tuncle. I woulda get my car drive away. This
Speaker 1: might help clear up the ball situation. Rick Carlile said
Speaker 1: in his postgame interview. He said there was a misunderstanding
Speaker 1: about the game ball. It was Oscar she be she
Speaker 1: Bei's Tahibi, right. I think It'shibi, the guy from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: First official NBA points and we are always get the
Speaker 1: game ball, so we're not thinking about Yanni's franchise record.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately in that situation, So the guy that scored sixty
Speaker 1: four points, he gonna lose the ball to.
Speaker 2: A guy that scored two. Oh, so they gave it
Speaker 2: to their own.
Speaker 1: Y'all is gonna hey, hold on, hold on, check this out, Gil.
Speaker 1: The game was in Milwaukee. How the hell do you
Speaker 1: think Indiana you get to keep the ball?
Speaker 2: I just thought about that. How the hell did they
Speaker 2: get to keep you gonna get to keep them? Rick?
Speaker 2: You you bull? That's what he rick. That's some bull jobs.
Speaker 2: But hey, hey that.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I can tell you this right now, that
Speaker 1: bus ain't leaving. I'm not leaving. They probably ain't listen.
Speaker 1: They probably donna switch that ball anyway. So the one
Speaker 1: Yanni's got eighty, the real one if he didn't get
Speaker 1: a man, Yann is dirty like that.
Speaker 2: Listen, because it's the same thing. My first my first.
Speaker 1: Two points, especially that tradition, my birth points. I said,
Speaker 1: because you can't take that back. That's my career But
Speaker 1: to be honest, I never heard no shit like that before.
Speaker 1: I never heard nobody. Hey, hold on, you know that.
Speaker 1: First of all, I've been in a lot of games,
Speaker 1: and I know when running backs had great one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty two one of your games. I know when
Speaker 1: receivers had two under your games. I know when quarterbacks
Speaker 1: threw for three. I understood. And now, obviously the balls
Speaker 1: are different because every team got their ball. It's not
Speaker 1: like basketball, when everybody you know, the basketball is the basketball.
Speaker 2: You shoot with that ball. We shoot with that ball.
Speaker 2: But in football, the Broncos got their ball, the Raiders
Speaker 2: got their ball.
Speaker 1: But you mean to tell me that you you didn't
Speaker 1: know Joannis had sixty four points. The man dropped twenty
Speaker 1: six on you in the fourth alone.
Speaker 2: Come on, Rick, they didn't care.
Speaker 1: He they want him and he they want him to
Speaker 1: pay footback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, they wanted to pay food back. That's all that is. Hey, well,
Speaker 1: hold on up. The NBA is gonna get that ball.
Speaker 1: What the hell they getting the.
Speaker 2: Poor do they get the ball or the shoot? They
Speaker 2: get one of them. The NBA gets one of them
Speaker 2: for the okay for springfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get they get one of them they gonna
Speaker 1: get something like, I'm trying to figure out it was
Speaker 1: my jersey they got on my I should have been
Speaker 1: at that game. I should have been at Milwaukeer. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, can I have your jersey? Him not realizing.
Speaker 2: One of them the NBA gets one of those.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, do you believe Zion
Speaker 1: has been overly criticized? No, because if if, if we
Speaker 1: do not criticize him, that means we.
Speaker 2: Accept what he's gonna be. If he keeps up the same,
Speaker 2: if he keeps gaining weight.
Speaker 1: Right, if he keeps gaining weight, then we we we've
Speaker 1: accepted it. So we're like, all right, we're fine, We're
Speaker 1: gonna call you a bus and just move on to
Speaker 1: the next start. So the fact that we're still talking
Speaker 1: about me, we still see the potential of what he
Speaker 1: can be. Right, I agree, But I think I think
Speaker 1: the problem is more people care than he does, because
Speaker 1: at the end of it, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: gil is a personal choice. I can't and I just
Speaker 1: want used to tell my kids all the time, I
Speaker 1: can't want something more for you than you want it
Speaker 1: for yourself. And right now there are people that want
Speaker 1: Zion to and get his training, and it's eating under
Speaker 1: control more so than the Zion wants to get it
Speaker 1: under control, because that's.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 1: And if even let's just say, if even if he
Speaker 1: has an eating problem, no matter what your demons are,
Speaker 1: we create those demons, we must chase them away. So
Speaker 1: and the thing with Zion I understand. But again, Gil,
Speaker 1: when you look at him and he's doing what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's given you thirty and twelve and he's two three
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. What incentive does he have now if he
Speaker 1: was giving you six and at six and eight Now
Speaker 1: he's like, man, I need to lose weight. But because
Speaker 1: he's having these outbursts, but he should have said, you
Speaker 1: know what, look how many games i've done missed. That's
Speaker 1: a direct reflection of my conditioning. And I'm too heavy.
Speaker 1: Let me do so about it. You know what the
Speaker 1: problem is. Have you noticed he's heavier now than he
Speaker 1: was in training camp? See he's heavier now. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: he wiched out. They're not because of training camp. You're
Speaker 1: doing a lot more running as opposed to now because
Speaker 1: all you get the game and then shoot around.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing really going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And see, and that's the problem is it's he's trying
Speaker 1: to be normal in this ain't football where you're coming
Speaker 1: to practice.
Speaker 2: At six am and you leaving, you know, six pm.
Speaker 1: He probably, to be honest, he probably not even burning
Speaker 1: a thou not even five hundred calories working out every day.
Speaker 1: So that means he consciously, at twenty three years old old,
Speaker 1: have to sit at go home and.
Speaker 2: Do two hours of cardio.
Speaker 1: So he has to really just I'm gonna diet, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work out, and that's that's not what he was
Speaker 1: built on.
Speaker 2: He wasn't built on that type of discipline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna take that's gonna take like real self check,
Speaker 1: like as soon as the summer hit and he has
Speaker 1: to lock in and say, all right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: into the summer and I'm gonna lose sixty pounds. He
Speaker 1: can't do that in the no way in the season. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's done right now. What's going on is done. The
Speaker 1: season is over. You can't expect him to lose thirty
Speaker 1: pounds right now. No flying, partying, eating, traveling, sitting. No,
Speaker 1: he ain't losing no weight right now.
Speaker 2: That is right. Stamn near impossible. He better get on
Speaker 2: some AfterAll, he better is if they check off, they
Speaker 2: better check off that drug. Tessey. Hey, if.
Speaker 1: I think the thing gil is is what I tell
Speaker 1: what and people as well, Shannon's disciplined. To you, it
Speaker 1: would wires you to do your best when no one
Speaker 1: else is watching. You see the problem. I bet you
Speaker 1: when Zion when giant, when people are around Zion eating
Speaker 1: chicken breasts, eating little posta, you know he eating you
Speaker 1: know he eating fruit. But then we listen, Bro, you
Speaker 1: can't fool people like but Shanna elephant eat all he
Speaker 1: eat is grass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he eat five hundred pounds of grass, so yeah,
Speaker 2: you can. You can overeat even if you eat nutritious,
Speaker 2: which he's not.
Speaker 1: And big, I've never seen someone be big yung a
Speaker 1: big a big big. Young people normally grow to be
Speaker 1: big old people, and big old people don't live long. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: everyone killed me when I called it out, and luckily
Speaker 1: me and him are still.
Speaker 2: Cool because I called it out. I called it out
Speaker 2: when he was in college. I said, eighteen years old,
Speaker 2: nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: At two eighty five, that's not good. So what you
Speaker 1: thinking if he's two eighty five? At eighteen and you know, eighteen, man,
Speaker 1: I can eat anything I want to. Yeah, it kept.
Speaker 1: I kept a twelve and I ain't talking about in
Speaker 1: the frieze. Hey, I mean I couldn't even really walk
Speaker 1: around into something.
Speaker 2: I would lock up. I had so many muffs.
Speaker 1: But as I started the age, you have to work
Speaker 1: because as you start to get older, Gill, you either
Speaker 1: have to work out harder or eat cleaner. And sometimes
Speaker 1: you got to do both ye or both b O
Speaker 1: A L both both both. But but the thing is,
Speaker 1: people say, well, Zion need a personal a personal chef,
Speaker 1: Zion need personal accountability. You don't They acting like he
Speaker 1: don't have a show. He got a chef he got.
Speaker 1: You can't. But you can't be cooking at you faith.
Speaker 1: You can't be cooking jump alive. You can't be cooking gumboat.
Speaker 1: You can't be be cooking that he got. Hey when
Speaker 1: a chef league he got uber.
Speaker 2: Eats, Yeah, that's what you can't. You can't be heat
Speaker 2: a dove. And Ben yates that it's just.
Speaker 1: He might eat when he's sad, he might eat when
Speaker 1: he's happy, like you know what I mean, It's just
Speaker 1: it might be his sting like you know, it might
Speaker 1: just be his singing. He's just gonna have to lock
Speaker 1: in one day. And yes, listen, I don't want this
Speaker 1: no more. I don't want this from my life because
Speaker 1: to get something you've never had, you got to.
Speaker 2: Do something you've never done before. Always, you know, to
Speaker 2: be an NBA champion, I want to be that next level.
Speaker 2: I got to get rid of this.
Speaker 1: Food happened, yes, and it's not really it's not taking away.
Speaker 1: The food is taken away at certain times of the day,
Speaker 1: right or the portions.
Speaker 2: Portions, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And so I just wish, I just wish I could
Speaker 1: sit down and talk to us, say, Zion, people are
Speaker 1: like this because they care. Because they didn't care, they
Speaker 1: would let you do what you would continue to do
Speaker 1: that you're gonna do what you want to do. But
Speaker 1: don't think people are taking shots at you, because if
Speaker 1: they thought you were bummed, they wouldn't care. In fact,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. And but people love you and they see
Speaker 1: what you can be. Sometimes people can see things in
Speaker 1: us we can't see in ourselves. And I think this
Speaker 1: is a this is a prime example. Uh, he thinks
Speaker 1: everybody is coming down. Well, if it's coming if it's
Speaker 1: coming from a good place, where's would it come from?
Speaker 2: Zoons laughter.
Speaker 1: Jokes, Like we've been laughing at it for a while,
Speaker 1: Like it started in Summer League when he was sitting
Speaker 1: on the bench after his first game, had that belly.
Speaker 1: He just he just he's just packing a lot of weight.
Speaker 1: And I think they have to make it at twenty three.
Speaker 1: They have to make losing weight fun. They gotta treat
Speaker 1: him like a little kid. Right, Hey, come on, baby,
Speaker 1: good job, you lost two pounds. Keep going well, like
Speaker 1: it's one of those you're gonna have the baby until
Speaker 1: it becomes a routine form where he's happy doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe the first person giving his body type, the
Speaker 1: first person he should have contact.
Speaker 2: Once he decided he was going pro.
Speaker 1: With Charles Barkley because Charles Barkley had a very similar
Speaker 1: situation and Charles, he said, Charles said, Moses Malone to him,
Speaker 1: say you fat. Yep, it's simple as that, you fat fat,
Speaker 1: Hold up, no, no, no, no, you fat fat, and
Speaker 1: you lazy. So sometimes it takes blunt, harsh criticism for
Speaker 1: it to resonate and stop, because maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, come on, you know, drop a couple of no,
Speaker 1: tell him the hard truth and hopefully it resonates. But
Speaker 1: I want the guy to get it because we've never
Speaker 1: seen somebody that size that explosive. He has a Ferrari
Speaker 1: engine and a Matt truck body. Yes, and he's and
Speaker 1: he's moving it. The fact that the fact that we
Speaker 1: are laughing and talking about it, and he's averaging twenty
Speaker 1: three six and five. And the thing is the guy
Speaker 1: can win mel But you know, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When you that size and you that explosive and you
Speaker 1: jump up and down in an NBA game over the
Speaker 1: course of a season, the body wasn't made A body
Speaker 1: that size wasn't made to do that. Gil nobody would
Speaker 1: made to do that six six times six times a
Speaker 1: weight coming down every POUNDY gains, that's six times yea.
Speaker 2: He needs to be.
Speaker 1: Realistically, if he can get back to he's only twenty three,
Speaker 1: so if he can get back to.
Speaker 2: To fifty two sixty.
Speaker 1: To fifty two sixty, because he'd be that'd be that'll
Speaker 1: be him, like right before he went to a duke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like if if, if, if I'm him, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell Lebron James. Hey, hey, I'm sorry, but I'm
Speaker 1: spending the whole summer with you. Yeah, for sure, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know what you normally pay your chef. Don't
Speaker 1: pay up, because I'm gonna pay up. He's gonna cook.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live. I'm gonna live in the guest house. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live in the guess house. And I want
Speaker 1: to see that man. Got twenty one years and he
Speaker 1: going strong, and it looked like he's gonna be going
Speaker 1: for twenty two to twenty three. Knock on wood, nothing
Speaker 1: unforeseen happen because he's gonna get the call. He's gonna
Speaker 1: call his shot. He's gonna walk away when he wants to. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the luggage.
Speaker 2: Ain't no, ain't no a. Lebron ain't gonna be able
Speaker 2: to tell me. No. Hey, hey, I woulda do. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Lebron like Kobe did Jordan. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: nag this. I'm gonna nag the s h t out
Speaker 1: of them, and you go, hey, come on boy, come
Speaker 1: on son, and I want to take a liking to it.
Speaker 2: Check this out, life and love Gil.
Speaker 1: What's the simplest thing someone can buy for you that
Speaker 1: would make you happy, the simplest thing.
Speaker 2: That they can buy for me.
Speaker 1: Yes, man, un at this age, man, I don't want
Speaker 1: nothing that that costs right.
Speaker 2: The things that I won't don't cost nothing. Right.
Speaker 1: That's peace, loyalty, honesty, love, right like I hope I
Speaker 1: thought you set up for some potato chill man like respect.
Speaker 2: Like the things we're looking for out of out of
Speaker 2: just a partner themselves and people that's around their trust, dignity, loyalty.
Speaker 1: That's what I want because you can't buy that. No gilt,
Speaker 1: you can't buy That's why.
Speaker 2: What about a shirt? Can we get you a shirt?
Speaker 2: Can we get you can? Can we get your pair
Speaker 2: of teeth?
Speaker 1: Can we get your pair of advantage of agent zeros?
Speaker 2: You can buy me some sand dudes? Hey and be
Speaker 2: a cheet right there? No thank you, I won't. I won't.
Speaker 2: What's freighted? I won't what was free?
Speaker 1: A I done got the sweaters and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then find out the kid. You already already know
Speaker 1: what the kid you know? And look, give me a car,
Speaker 1: my kid, don't buy me anything, just give me a car,
Speaker 1: because they already told me, daddy, what can we buy
Speaker 1: you that you don't already have?
Speaker 2: And you can't get yourself get your daddy a car
Speaker 2: if we could.
Speaker 1: They gonna stick some movie tickets, but they don't do
Speaker 1: the movie tickets anymore because I don't go to the
Speaker 1: movies like that.
Speaker 2: But just give me a card. But you know what
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I was, I was dating this young lady and I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't tell her anything. But she was just
Speaker 1: very observant. And when I came home. I came home
Speaker 1: one Friday, because what I do. I go to practice
Speaker 1: and then I would, you know, go get my hair
Speaker 1: cut and then I come come home.
Speaker 2: So I didn't. I wouldn't get home until about probably
Speaker 2: about four o'clock, five o'clock.
Speaker 1: And she had watched me over the course of life,
Speaker 1: and I've never said anything. And she had three zero
Speaker 1: bars candy bar zeros.
Speaker 2: You like the zeros bad she had.
Speaker 1: She had three zeros. I've always drank ginger real and
Speaker 1: she had the honey barbecue corn chips and so and
Speaker 1: she had she had to you know, obviously ginger was
Speaker 1: in the refrigerator. But the zeros and the and the Honey
Speaker 1: barbecue corn chips were sitting there and when I walked in,
Speaker 1: because she had never fought me this before, but she
Speaker 1: just saw I would and I just walked there and
Speaker 1: walked there and I just gave her her I said, thank.
Speaker 2: You, because I like, I like, I like observe it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was having was having a conversation, me and
Speaker 1: some of my teammates and they were talking about you know,
Speaker 1: their wife and all this, and talking about sharp you
Speaker 1: ain't even married. I said, I tell you what. I
Speaker 1: bet you. I bet you, and I bet you. I
Speaker 1: bet each of you a hundred thousand. I said, I
Speaker 1: want you all to do. This is what I want
Speaker 1: you to do. Pick any fast food restaurants, Burger King, McDonald's,
Speaker 1: there's a restaurant called Black Eyed Pea, or some borrow
Speaker 1: with a piece of place.
Speaker 2: I said, tell you what, call your wife.
Speaker 1: Tell her to gold there, go to one of these
Speaker 1: places and don't tell her what to get you and
Speaker 1: you tell me what she gonna get. Now, I'm wonna
Speaker 1: call my girlfriend and I'm won't tell her to go
Speaker 1: to one of those places. And I'm gonna bet you,
Speaker 1: you and you a one hundred thousand apiece. I bet
Speaker 1: you she'll come back with whatever I told you.
Speaker 2: She gonna get.
Speaker 1: No man, y'all talking about y'all marriage and your wife
Speaker 1: know you so well. I want to take my girlfriend
Speaker 1: of two years, and I bet three of you are
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand a piece.
Speaker 2: Guess what, gil Ain't nobody want to take the bell naw?
Speaker 1: But I say, I tell you what I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: to show you how you you're lost your day of money.
Speaker 1: I've called him, go to black eyed p and I
Speaker 1: hung the phone up, I said, I hung the phone up. Now,
Speaker 1: I said that she gonna come. She gonna bring me corn.
Speaker 1: She's gonna bring me a chicken breast, clean rice, corn,
Speaker 1: green beans and two rolls.
Speaker 2: And that's what that's what you're broung. I know she
Speaker 2: did absolutely.
Speaker 1: This is this this when when women asked me, and
Speaker 1: I told women stop asking this god damn question to men, stop.
Speaker 2: Asking what do you see me? What are you looking for?
Speaker 2: Don't you We don't know until you give it to it.
Speaker 1: Like we have a vision, but you need to bring
Speaker 1: something that I saw something.
Speaker 2: I'm here on her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I like, bring me Like men never been loved.
Speaker 1: We don't know how to receive love. Yeah, right, that's
Speaker 1: that's one thing we we're not taught how to receive it.
Speaker 1: So when someone like I don't know what I'm looking for,
Speaker 1: but when I see it, god damn it, I know
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You you doing the things that you you're looking at
Speaker 1: my life and you're beating me to it. You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know I put my clothes in the hamber boom
Speaker 1: it's clean the next day, like, oh, my sandals boom
Speaker 1: is clean. The water's running at five thirty am, because
Speaker 1: that's when I wake up. You woke up, turned it
Speaker 1: on because you know I'm gonna be getting up in
Speaker 1: thirty more minutes, like you're doing the things before, and
Speaker 1: I don't have that ask I fask Lord. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: my thing was gil. I've I've had a couple that
Speaker 1: knew me, knew me better than I knew myself. And
Speaker 1: because I ruined it because I was afraid, I'm like,
Speaker 1: how did she know me?
Speaker 2: But she just watched.
Speaker 1: Everything that I did, everything that I said. Shannon, is
Speaker 1: this one's birthday? Shannon, is your mom's birthday, Shannon is
Speaker 1: Livy's birthday? Shannon, you need to do this well such
Speaker 1: and such. It was just like clockwork. And it scared
Speaker 1: me so because I had never had anybody that took
Speaker 1: the time to get to know me like this and
Speaker 1: to know what I liked, what I didn't like, and
Speaker 1: to you want me to pick this up.
Speaker 2: I'm going to such and such a what do you
Speaker 2: need do your mom? And it? I aft it up
Speaker 2: because I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know because growing up, that's not that's not
Speaker 1: how look like. My grandmother never said she loved me.
Speaker 1: My grandfather never told me that they loved me. Love
Speaker 1: where you got a roof over your head, you got
Speaker 1: food in your stomach, and you got clothes on your back.
Speaker 1: That was love to me. And they didn't tell me.
Speaker 1: But I knew it that I could feel it. But
Speaker 1: as I got older, that's like I didn't know my
Speaker 1: my my gifts is my love. That's that's That's the
Speaker 1: way I show you that I love you. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get you things that everybody can't have, and and
Speaker 1: and my therapist says, Shannon, the problem that you have
Speaker 1: is that you and your partner speaks two different languages.
Speaker 1: You speak Mandarin, she speaks Spanish. Now one of you
Speaker 1: guys need to learn the other words language or it's
Speaker 1: not gonna work. And that's that's my problem. And plus,
Speaker 1: the thing is, it was easy to say, you know
Speaker 1: what during my career, gial, it was easy to say, ef, it.
Speaker 2: Ain't working on nothing. The only thing I'm working on
Speaker 2: my game. You ain't a part of the game. Are
Speaker 2: you go buy?
Speaker 1: It's easier, it's easier to give up when when you
Speaker 1: when it's foreign to you, yes, if if if you
Speaker 1: loving me, this is foreign yes, never received it before.
Speaker 1: And that's that's one thing in that capacity, yep. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing that men we have to do a
Speaker 1: better self Like ask your father and he be like.
Speaker 2: Hey, like how were you loved? Right?
Speaker 1: So I know what it looks like, like was it
Speaker 1: rubbing your feet saying this? And because we don't know,
Speaker 1: we we think when we're young, breaking.
Speaker 2: My window, killing my cars? Love? Oh yeah, yeah, hell
Speaker 2: now she loved me.
Speaker 1: I got served, Listen, I got served on basketball court
Speaker 1: and like why you have four kids with her?
Speaker 2: Should I thought it was love?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was love, not just motherfucker's just crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean, I mean it is a
Speaker 1: little love. You ain't got no you ain't got no
Speaker 1: bleach on your clothing. You ain't got no bleach on
Speaker 1: your pothing love. You gotta do it and leave one time.
Speaker 2: You gotta. You gotta bleach about stuff up one time.
Speaker 2: But that's what we think it's loved when today right,
Speaker 2: we got to learn.
Speaker 1: We got to learn as men how to be loved.
Speaker 1: We know how to a woman, we know how to
Speaker 1: be loved from a woman. So we're getting it. And
Speaker 1: we see a rough patch we taken off.
Speaker 2: Gone. Yeah, oh it's easy. I can get that.
Speaker 1: I can get six mold just to do this thing.
Speaker 1: I don't need this love shit. I can just do
Speaker 1: this part. Hey, how you doing? Get you that's easier
Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, sitting there and just taking the responsibility
Speaker 1: sometimes Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the thing is,
Speaker 1: I wish I'd have had the mindset, the mentality that
Speaker 1: I have now in my fifties. I wish I'd have
Speaker 1: had that in my in my twitters gial, because I'd
Speaker 1: have saved a lot of money and a lot of
Speaker 1: heartbreak from myself and some women. Because I know, not
Speaker 1: only have I been heartbroken and disappointed, I'm sure I've
Speaker 1: done the same. And I've let some good women go
Speaker 1: in my life. I know two for one thousand percent certain,
Speaker 1: one thousand percent, one thousand and if I had it
Speaker 1: to do over again, things will be a lot different
Speaker 1: in my life. But hindsight is a magnificent science because
Speaker 1: I have the luxury of knowing.
Speaker 2: Today, Hey, ain't too, ain't too. But I didn't know
Speaker 2: yes what I didn't know yesterday? Ain't two got away?
Speaker 2: Two more coming? That's all you gotta look at too
Speaker 2: more coming. They're coming down fideline. But you only need
Speaker 2: one of them. But but but here's the thing. But
Speaker 2: how much time do I have? The vet? But the
Speaker 2: thing kill gil.
Speaker 1: I look at my life in summers, bro I got hopefully,
Speaker 1: if I'm lucky, I got twenty five. I got twenty
Speaker 1: five good summers to go. How about I mean you
Speaker 1: got to spend at least five of them beating somebody.
Speaker 1: You Obviously, whatever vet and routine you got didn't work.
Speaker 2: God damn it. Did you know it wasn't no vet
Speaker 2: processing back then? Oh you look good.
Speaker 1: You you stacked up like laundry in the dorm room.
Speaker 2: Come on, you'll work. You know. Back then everything everything
Speaker 2: was based on aesthetics. Huh, you look good curving.
Speaker 1: That works, but then all of a sudden wants the
Speaker 1: allure of the curves and that face. Now, what what
Speaker 1: am I stuck with you?
Speaker 2: Hell? All you do is are you? Is? It's never
Speaker 2: good enough?
Speaker 1: I hate the one thing that I hate worse than
Speaker 1: a woman is ungratefulness, because I've had women. No matter
Speaker 1: what I did is it wasn't good enough. And that
Speaker 1: irks me because I'm i'm, I'm, I'm I'm I'm giving
Speaker 1: you all. I'm giving you all, and maybe that's my
Speaker 1: maybe that was my problem give is that what I
Speaker 1: was giving they didn't want or I didn't know what
Speaker 1: they wanted, or I couldn't give them what they needed.
Speaker 1: But I gave them what I thought because that's all
Speaker 1: I can do. I mean, I can't do. I can
Speaker 1: only I can only be or give you what I
Speaker 1: think you want. And you told me at the time
Speaker 1: that's what you wanted, what you want it so and
Speaker 1: that's why, like for me, I hate buying gifts for
Speaker 1: my for my significant other, because I really want you
Speaker 1: to have exactly what you want. I would just rather
Speaker 1: go write you a check or give you cash and
Speaker 1: let you go get it, because what I hate gift
Speaker 1: is that I get something like ooh, and you could
Speaker 1: tell what they don't really want it or they don't
Speaker 1: really like it.
Speaker 2: I'm crush. You know. We all have the same problem.
Speaker 2: We all have the same problem.
Speaker 1: Like if I go out and buy something I thought,
Speaker 1: especially with the time we have, yeah, man, thought to
Speaker 1: go get you something, and I come back and give
Speaker 1: it to you, and it's like, oh, okay, this was up.
Speaker 2: No damn, will I know you you came by what
Speaker 2: I just bought you? First of all, you you can't
Speaker 2: give me what I just got.
Speaker 1: You think whatever gift you gave me is gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I have to say yo, because we don't get gifts.
Speaker 1: So whatever gift you give me, I'm going to love
Speaker 1: and appreciate.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I mean I'm expecting the same thing.
Speaker 2: So when when you don't like this gift.
Speaker 1: Or I give you this gift and you eat it
Speaker 1: and all that, all you break my heart. All you
Speaker 1: doing is breaking my heart a little by little breaks
Speaker 1: my heart because man, gil I bought I bought this
Speaker 1: young lady a cardiac. Great, because here's the fact, this
Speaker 1: was like Durdan like pandemic time maybe short a little
Speaker 1: bit after and and it was hard that the Cardier
Speaker 1: store you just got, you know, back in the day,
Speaker 1: you just roll up on the Cardier store. But I
Speaker 1: had to make a reservation. Okay, I made a reservation
Speaker 1: and I'm standing outside. Yeah me, I'm standing outside waiting
Speaker 1: to get in the Cardiac store. So I bought it this.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this would be nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, gona be, I've seen it. I saw
Speaker 1: it on him one time. Hey man. And then women
Speaker 1: think we like see that's what said. Women think like
Speaker 1: we play us And I realize our actions now are
Speaker 1: because of something that happens. Like same thing I bought,
Speaker 1: you know, the Burking bags, right, yeah, and I had
Speaker 1: one custom. It took one year to make it custom,
Speaker 1: her favorite.
Speaker 2: Color, custom, just for her. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I seen it on eBay like four months later. Because
Speaker 1: they need to rent money.
Speaker 2: Never get.
Speaker 1: Not that I ain't getting you a gift card. You
Speaker 1: can't even get a Starbucks twenty or no more from me.
Speaker 1: It happened to me because I got, you know, because
Speaker 1: I buy I used to.
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 1: I still buy some stuff occasionally from LOUI everyton so
Speaker 1: the guy would call when they get exclusive stuff in,
Speaker 1: They're like, mister Sharp, you know we got this in
Speaker 1: you would you like to take a look at it?
Speaker 1: So you know, I run down there and take a
Speaker 1: look at it, Like, yeah, I like to get it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I probably bought probably had twenty five of those bags
Speaker 1: between Gucci and Lewis, and probably the cheapest bag twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred most expensive out of ten bads.
Speaker 2: We broke up. She pawned them all by last one
Speaker 2: of them. See uh.
Speaker 1: So I was like, we it wasn't instead of that,
Speaker 1: Instead of that, Gil, I would have rather her say,
Speaker 1: you know what I really need the money? Times have
Speaker 1: gotten tough. These bags that you out of bought them
Speaker 1: back from exactly, Oh my god, yes, out of brought
Speaker 1: them back from him. Uh my daughters, I got a
Speaker 1: daughter I got, I got two daughters, and I got
Speaker 1: a sister.
Speaker 2: Could have gave bag. I got a hold.
Speaker 1: I got a Hallway homeboy I got, I got two
Speaker 1: homeboys that got wives. Hey, pick one for your wife.
Speaker 1: I could have bought him back. That's out of bought
Speaker 1: them back, I wouldn't hold. I would have already spent them.
Speaker 1: And that's the funny part. We already spent the money.
Speaker 1: We would spend more money just to get back what
Speaker 1: we It's what all flooded sweat was into it because
Speaker 1: I would I would rather my daughters, my sister, my
Speaker 1: mom would have got a bag. My mom probably my
Speaker 1: mom doesn't really want no bag like that, my homeboy wife.
Speaker 1: They because at the end of the day, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, forget the end, in the middle
Speaker 1: of the day, in the morning. All I want you
Speaker 1: to do is appreciate what I've given you, because.
Speaker 2: I bust my ass to get you that. And that's
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to how we obtain our money,
Speaker 1: it's easier when you don't make it to spend it
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 2: So when we come out and we buy you stuff
Speaker 2: and we we we.
Speaker 1: Are willing to open up the pocket, but you have
Speaker 1: to really understand we're open up years of our work
Speaker 1: ethic for you. This is years of our worker These
Speaker 1: are lines drills I'm giving you, right, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: give you these lines drills and for you.
Speaker 2: To just be like, it's cool, thank you, appreciate it,
Speaker 2: throw it in the closet. It hurts, That's what hurt. Us, Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure. Let me.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's another question. Bial would you take before?
Speaker 2: Not now?
Speaker 1: Because I already know the answer. Now, would you take
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars why to you right now? Or
Speaker 1: a coin flip for ten million? So so before before before?
Speaker 1: So you're from Cali, right, yeah, So let's just say
Speaker 1: twenty years twenty years ago, twenty five, twenty years ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: somebody says, okay, I'm gonna wire you one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: or a coin flip for ten million.
Speaker 2: I got a flip.
Speaker 1: Only the only reason is it's fifty fi. I got
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance to win ten million, because you
Speaker 1: got a fifty fifty chance to go home with your
Speaker 1: hands in your pocket, just like you can't with nothing.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, since twenty years ago, I'm a high school kids. Shit,
Speaker 2: my dad gonna take that money anyway.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. I said right now, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about right now. Oh it's a no brainer for me.
Speaker 1: But you talk about me in high school or college,
Speaker 1: damn that coin. As a matter of fact, I would
Speaker 1: put the coin in my pocket and say give me that.
Speaker 2: That makes you get that a hundred thousand. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's two ends. It's an oh in, I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, no, no no, I could oh, Gill, Gill,
Speaker 1: you have to understand. I didn't have indoor plumbing. I
Speaker 1: didn't have running water. Do you know what a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollar would have did for me in the eighties?
Speaker 2: I know, but that athlete, the athlete gonna kick in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna kick in ten million, just to flip. I
Speaker 2: got heads.
Speaker 1: I could have had somebody got some indoor plumbing in
Speaker 1: my grand house. I could have got some padeling. I
Speaker 1: could have fixed that roof. Oh no, oh no, I
Speaker 1: was sorry. I was middle class.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about no hell, I'm not
Speaker 2: middle Yeah, I was middle class. On hell. I almost
Speaker 2: didn't make it in middle school. Oh my middle class?
Speaker 2: Yeah guy? How no? Oh no, gil, Hey, I went
Speaker 2: to school with Tim Tamira. Yeah, Brandy, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you showed up middle plans? Damn kill? Is it okay?
Speaker 2: Hold to just say a gil? All right? What's up? Shot?
Speaker 1: How y'all doing out there? Everybody good? A Sunnyside? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never been on Crenshaw. You right, Hey, gil, Uh,
Speaker 1: someone just donated five bucks and they said, would you
Speaker 1: guys level of fame and money, how do you know
Speaker 1: if someone is genuine or just wants you for your money? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna always be our achilles hell because
Speaker 1: it is there's no real engagement of uh finding out
Speaker 1: if somebody wants us for us, right, you know that's
Speaker 1: not I think turmoil determines that throughout the relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can determine that during or at the beginning, there's
Speaker 1: nothing that person has to be conflict. Yeah, it has
Speaker 1: to be conflict to see what happens. You know, even
Speaker 1: though we don't want the conflict. It has to be
Speaker 1: to see if that person's gonna dip on us or
Speaker 1: cheat on us or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be.
Speaker 1: We have to go through something as a couple because
Speaker 1: I know when it's smooth sailor it's kind of like
Speaker 1: in the Bible when the Devil's told God today, the
Speaker 1: only reason Jove serve you is that you give him everything.
Speaker 1: He said, if you remove this head, he will curse
Speaker 1: his berry baker. And he said, look, you could take everything,
Speaker 1: but it's like so if everything is always good, I
Speaker 1: mean if you in the Roles or you in the
Speaker 1: bill Ley. You got the BMW and we got the
Speaker 1: six eight ten million dollar home. We get to fly
Speaker 1: private three or four times a year. We get the
Speaker 1: bill of that's fifteen thousand of the night for a week.
Speaker 1: What's the complain about. I need to see some choppy waters.
Speaker 1: I need to see some bumps in the road. I
Speaker 1: need to see some turbulence and to see if you're
Speaker 1: gonna walk, if you're gonna walk with me, because now
Speaker 1: if I only see one set of footprints, ye, when
Speaker 1: it gets rough, that's gonna be a problem because I
Speaker 1: know you left me alone, and you left me to
Speaker 1: do this by myself.
Speaker 2: And a lot of NBA players, a lot of athletes
Speaker 2: themselves are finding that out when they're done playing, when
Speaker 2: they're done playing, because that's when the road gets choppy,
Speaker 2: because that's when.
Speaker 1: The player himself is trying to find out who he is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not the NBA or the football player no more.
Speaker 1: You are yes, a husband and a father, and we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure.
Speaker 2: Out who we are.
Speaker 1: And those women leave without that because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, deal, you're absolutely right, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day.
Speaker 2: Who are we No, you're not an NBA player. You're
Speaker 2: not an NFL player. That's what you did. Who are
Speaker 2: you well?
Speaker 1: No, No, Glennville, george is where you're from. Who are
Speaker 1: you well? For the longest time, I was from Glennville, Georgia.
Speaker 1: I was an NFL player. That was my identity. So
Speaker 1: at this present time, I don't know who I am.
Speaker 1: I need time to find out who I am. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna stay with me while I go on this
Speaker 1: I go on this trick and so it's tough, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell anybody that's not But the thing
Speaker 1: is with me again for me is that I've been very,
Speaker 1: very fortunate. Is that if I got it, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's with a reason, I'll help. I'll help the
Speaker 1: person that I'm with because I've always believed that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get it back. But I'm gonna get it back threefold.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it back tenfold. So whatever I gave
Speaker 1: you fifteen hundred thousand, I'm gonna get it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If then what I'm I'm I'm I'm all.
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna win because I'm always moving in a
Speaker 1: place with a good heart.
Speaker 2: No ill intent. Yep, that's just that's just the way
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: And if I can help somebody, I've been very fortunate
Speaker 1: that God has blessed me, giving me the ability, uh
Speaker 1: not only play the game that I love, of football,
Speaker 1: but to transition into my second career. The same thing
Speaker 1: with you, Gil, God gave you the ability to play
Speaker 1: at least a decade in the NBA, transition to your
Speaker 1: second career, and pretty soon people are gonna forget that
Speaker 1: you were an NBA player, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be your celebrity old I was. I was,
Speaker 1: I was a pretty good you know, people forgot that,
Speaker 1: you know, he I did play in the NFL, and.
Speaker 2: I was okay, I did okay. But and so but
Speaker 2: for me, it's it's it's hard. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know if what the answer is without turbulus,
Speaker 1: without conflict, I don't know if we can never find
Speaker 1: that diamond, because that's what makes diamond.
Speaker 2: The pressure. You're right, and he said it, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: So if.
Speaker 1: Someone donated ten bucks, I think JJ the King Shannon
Speaker 1: does does does Shannon?
Speaker 2: And Gill?
Speaker 1: Does money make you happy with yourself? The tangible product
Speaker 1: itself doesn't do anything for me. I love money for
Speaker 1: what it allows me to do. I can do things
Speaker 1: for my family. I can only have dreamed of my kids,
Speaker 1: my mom, my sister, my brother, my homeboy, that they
Speaker 1: need something I can help.
Speaker 2: I honestly, I buy very very little. My agent last year, yeah, there.
Speaker 1: Was this car because I hadn't bought anything for myself
Speaker 1: for a very very long time, and this was gonna
Speaker 1: be the last year they were gonna make the Challenger
Speaker 1: in a gas model. They're going to the EV model
Speaker 1: And I was short it to my agent and he's like,
Speaker 1: get it. I was like, Nah, I think I'm okay.
Speaker 1: He said, Noah, get it. He said, you haven't gotten anything.
Speaker 1: He says, every time I turn around, you're doing stuff
Speaker 1: for your kids, doings for your mom, doing stuff for
Speaker 1: your sister. At what point in time are you gonna
Speaker 1: do something for yourself? Shannon, I was like, but it's
Speaker 1: like no, he says, And you can only save so
Speaker 1: much and not be happy because all you doing is saving.
Speaker 1: He says, what you think is gonna happen. We got
Speaker 1: your trust in it, We got your trust in your
Speaker 1: state squared away. You think they're gonna save this money,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna enjoy it. Were you making it, you
Speaker 1: probably should enjoy some of it yourself while you're here.
Speaker 2: So in't got it?
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Like like when people say money
Speaker 2: don't make you happy, Hey, this shit don't make me sad.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that, Gil. You know what I say, Gil,
Speaker 2: It ain't no crying on the yacht Yachi.
Speaker 1: He where you're fart and when you're set, when you're
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand feet up in there, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: You reach the comfortable cruising altitude of thirty five thousand feet,
Speaker 1: sit back, relax and enjoy your flight.
Speaker 2: We got a travel time of four hours and thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm pretty good. I hate cried.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's it's what it's what money allows
Speaker 1: me to do. That it puts my mind, It puts
Speaker 1: my family mind at ease. That health care and things
Speaker 1: of that nature, Gil, things that I worried about as
Speaker 1: a child, things that my family worried about as when
Speaker 1: I was a child, or having to make ends meet,
Speaker 1: or we gotta you know, we can't pay the phone bill,
Speaker 1: but we got to play the light bill. We can't
Speaker 1: pay the light bill. We got to pay the gas bill.
Speaker 1: There ain't no more worries. And I tell you, I say, y'all,
Speaker 1: and even do. I tell my kids, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: last option, not first choice. I said, well, you guys
Speaker 1: should not have anything to worry about. Do what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and everythings gonna take care of itself.
Speaker 1: My mom, I said, Mom, why you worry, I mean
Speaker 1: worried about. What all you gotta do is spill up
Speaker 1: the phone and call my sister. I've given her the greenlight.
Speaker 1: Whatever you need, it's done. It's taking care of my sister. Hey,
Speaker 1: I've given her the green light, whatever you need, take
Speaker 1: care of it. Everything is taking care of my brother
Speaker 1: the same thing.
Speaker 2: He gonna call it.
Speaker 1: Hey, bro, just wait, bro, you good. So that's what
Speaker 1: the money does for me. I mean, have it like
Speaker 1: to know I got it, But no, it's what it
Speaker 1: allows me to do. It's the peace of mind that
Speaker 1: it gives me. Gill because like I said, I ain't
Speaker 1: really spending no money on me. I'm spending money like
Speaker 1: my family. I want to see them happy because my purpose,
Speaker 1: I found out. My purpose is to work is to
Speaker 1: see people. To see it is to see my family
Speaker 1: and the people that I care about happy.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's I think. I think the real, the real,
Speaker 2: the real thing behind. Does money make you happy? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you making the money doing what your gifted at
Speaker 2: ryes when I'm if I'm doing, Like when I when
Speaker 2: I retired and I got all the money in the world,
Speaker 2: I was not happy because I didn't I didn't do
Speaker 2: what was I'm doing. I don't know who I am.
Speaker 2: I'm not playing.
Speaker 1: I'm not playing what I know since twenty eighteen when
Speaker 1: I got into podcast.
Speaker 2: And this is what makes me happy. And if I
Speaker 2: switch to my the best of.
Speaker 1: My ability, the money's coming. But I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: for the money, right, you can get ten shows. I
Speaker 1: can be in here a second. I'm happy. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I can't wait the Monday come. Yes, but
Speaker 1: damn when Monday ain't around here, come on Monday.
Speaker 2: I'm switching.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to sleep early so I gona wake
Speaker 1: up on Monday to dude, to do what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: These are the fastest years out of I played basketball. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's your your purpose of my person's saying is work.
Speaker 1: That's our calling. That's where we get that's where we're
Speaker 1: most at peace, that's where we're most And I element
Speaker 1: is to do this is to talk about, like you said,
Speaker 1: to do what you love and to get paid.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: Most people don't get an opportunity to do it they love.
Speaker 1: They're working a job that they don't love. Man, Man,
Speaker 1: I can't wait, Man, I can't I can't wait till
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 2: Bro, it's Monday. You just came off the weekend. You
Speaker 2: just came off the weekend.
Speaker 1: What the hell you gotta do this, baketball You got
Speaker 1: another six hours and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and
Speaker 1: you talk about.
Speaker 2: You can't wait till the weekend.
Speaker 1: But to get up and to do something that you
Speaker 1: love and to do it for the people that you
Speaker 1: love and the appreciation that my fans and my subscribers
Speaker 1: and my listeners, that's what That's what makes it worthwhile.
Speaker 2: That's that's really what makes it worthwhile. Man. You can
Speaker 2: see it. I'm not even gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You know behind the scenes when we talk and I
Speaker 1: was like, man, listen, all I pay attention to is
Speaker 1: the greats.
Speaker 2: Why they're great at what they do?
Speaker 1: You know, the jobs, everyone's getting, the momentum everyone.
Speaker 2: It's not on accident, right, you know you love this.
Speaker 2: I can see it. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's when when you're when you're doing
Speaker 1: it at that purpose, you can own you can only
Speaker 1: be great at it. I think the thing is the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me. Also, gilt is that I saw
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Hell, I saw in print money.
Speaker 2: So why is it?
Speaker 1: Why do I need to be jealous of somebody else
Speaker 1: because they got a bigger platform. Let me work hard
Speaker 1: to see if I can grow my platform. Hell they
Speaker 1: print money, yep. And because you get some of it,
Speaker 1: don't mean it takes from me. We've got to get
Speaker 1: out of thinking that if somebody gets something, it's coming
Speaker 1: from me. Acts No, this is just my opportunity. And
Speaker 1: people like, you know, people don't. I don't think people
Speaker 1: see the work that goes into something like what we do.
Speaker 1: People just thinking that we click the button and we
Speaker 1: just start talking. But there's a lot of work to
Speaker 1: come up with a format, to come up with a rundown,
Speaker 1: to come up the obviously, but when we talk about
Speaker 1: sports and uh, and I think it's the same for yours.
Speaker 1: People might come for the sports, but they stay for
Speaker 1: the stories, Yes, sir, because of the relatability. Because you're
Speaker 1: talking about two guys and you're talking about myself and
Speaker 1: your you and oho.
Speaker 2: Is that Let's see how similar some of the things
Speaker 2: that they've gone through is what I went through.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes people think because you got money, it solves
Speaker 1: all your problems. No, it might give you an opportunity.
Speaker 2: You better better.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're better equipped to to get out of situation.
Speaker 1: It helps you solve them, but it does not absorb
Speaker 1: you of them. And so for me to do this
Speaker 1: and the opportunities that I've been afforded to have people
Speaker 1: to help me get to this point.
Speaker 2: And to push me and to be genuinely happy.
Speaker 1: Man, that's what it's about, Gil, That's what it's about,
Speaker 1: really though, Bro, It really is, like I just I love.
Speaker 2: Doing the research part of it. I just you know,
Speaker 2: just the media.
Speaker 1: Itself, right, you know when people talk about TNT, ESPN,
Speaker 1: like people don't realize when when I go on those jobs,
Speaker 1: I'll call it director and say what is what can
Speaker 1: I say?
Speaker 2: Which words is banned, which words is the least I
Speaker 2: want to know? It?
Speaker 1: All? Like I treated like basketball when Dwayne Wade told
Speaker 1: me to say, hey, listen, when you go into your
Speaker 1: second job, this is what you are good at. Don't
Speaker 1: go in there as Gilbertereni is three time Allso are
Speaker 1: three all NBA?
Speaker 2: You going there as a beginner? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, what the green snow? Pay attention to the grace.
Speaker 1: They're there for a reason. Yes, you don't know what
Speaker 1: you don't know. And that's the mistake that a lot
Speaker 1: of people make, is because just because you're good at
Speaker 1: something doesn't mean that you'll be good at something else.
Speaker 2: And are you willing to put the time? Are you
Speaker 2: willing to put the energy in it?
Speaker 1: Because for me, I worked just as hard at this
Speaker 1: job as I did football, even though I was better
Speaker 1: at football, because yeah, God gave me ability.
Speaker 2: To be able to talk.
Speaker 1: But there's a difference between just talking when you're in
Speaker 1: the barbershop and talking with your homeboys.
Speaker 2: They talking with a mic at a camera in your face.
Speaker 2: It's something entirely different.
Speaker 1: So, Gil, you got a question, They said, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get this gil Tim Grover talks about how
Speaker 1: hard how you was one of the hardest workers.
Speaker 2: Such as training, how was it, how was it regularly
Speaker 2: they of training with him? It all, it all depends.
Speaker 2: So like when I was with Tim Grover in the summer,
Speaker 2: I'll get up about five thirty, so five thirty, take
Speaker 2: my shower, even there's still still regimend today.
Speaker 1: Get up five thirty, shower and then get there. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there about probably about what seven fifteen,
Speaker 1: seven thirty. So I'm on the court about eight o'clock,
Speaker 1: eight to ten, eight to eleven, my first workout, take
Speaker 1: about an hour two our rest, and I'm back.
Speaker 2: In the gym round two to to five. Then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go eat dinner maybe depending on if I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go back in probably about six to ten and then
Speaker 2: have that final it. So I was working. I was
Speaker 2: trying to do. I was trying to really put in
Speaker 2: an eight hour shift.
Speaker 1: Wow, because that's what that's what Kobe was doing. That's
Speaker 1: what Michael Jordan, That's what I heard, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm tru when I heard Kobe went
Speaker 1: to a special ops guy when I missed those two
Speaker 1: free thows against them, Ron, where's toobs? Guys just go here,
Speaker 1: I come right, like, I'm the elite, is the et
Speaker 1: leitet for a reason, right? And if you only seeing
Speaker 1: what you're seeing around, you can only be this right,
Speaker 1: you know, like they're all stars in here, you know.
Speaker 1: But he's a superstar, right, So I want to do
Speaker 1: what the superstars do. I went to Grover because Kobe
Speaker 1: went to Grover. Jordan went to Grover.
Speaker 2: Joe give me. I'm gonna give you myself. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give you my regimen. Is it good enough? Right? Right?
Speaker 2: You judge me? Is it good enough? So he can say, well, man,
Speaker 2: Jordan was doing a little bit more. What else was
Speaker 2: he doing? Right? I went there to show him my
Speaker 2: work that they so he can critique it. Wow. There,
Speaker 2: And this is what I tell guys all the time.
Speaker 1: There's a price for greatness, and if you're not willing
Speaker 1: to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great.
Speaker 1: That facts, there's a there, there is a price. There's
Speaker 1: a selfishness that you must have. There is not one
Speaker 1: great player that's unselfish. You have to be unrelenting, you
Speaker 1: have to be demanding of your time and give less
Speaker 1: than a damn about somebody else's I gotta.
Speaker 2: Be look at the greats. Look at the greats.
Speaker 1: When you mentioned Kobe and you look at you, look Mike,
Speaker 1: and you look at Tiger Woods, the greats of the greats.
Speaker 1: There's a selfishness that is demanded. It's mandatory. And people like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: And what's the first thing they say with a player
Speaker 2: that's good, Oh you're too selfish.
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to be great. Yes, yes, it's mandatory.
Speaker 1: It's mandatory, like that you that that you don't I
Speaker 1: can't be willing nearly with my time. That my time
Speaker 1: is the most important. Time is the number one is
Speaker 1: the number one currency. Don't let anybody tell you different,
Speaker 1: because it's the one thing that you cannot recapture. If
Speaker 1: I lose a million dollars, I can go make two
Speaker 1: millions and make it up. But the one thing I
Speaker 1: can never get back, it's the number one currency. And
Speaker 1: then people like me and my chat were good, but
Speaker 1: you know, like outside the mother chat, they'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: you arrogant.
Speaker 2: I work my ass off to be what I work
Speaker 2: eight hours and nine hours in you I'm yes, right,
Speaker 2: I'm number seven. There's six people in front of me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it. I want to be number five
Speaker 2: of them next year. The people behind me, fuck them, right,
Speaker 2: that's not my problem. I'll kick it up. Yes, I
Speaker 2: want my ass off to be here. I'm gonna yes, yes,
Speaker 2: because I know that.
Speaker 1: Hey, just like if I score sixty on somebody, I
Speaker 1: know they come in, right, I know they come in
Speaker 1: when they come up, and be prepared like I was
Speaker 1: an athlete. I was an athlete, Like, I'm gonna wear
Speaker 1: it on my shoulder because I know if I don't,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna wear me on theirs. Yep, you're absolutely right. Humble, No,
Speaker 1: I worked too hard. I worked too hard to be humbling. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is now, Gil, is that we're in a
Speaker 1: different arena of something that we got a late start.
Speaker 1: See a lot of people that that that's in this space,
Speaker 1: they've been doing a lot longer than you and I have.
Speaker 1: And so in football, you know, hey, and it's the
Speaker 1: one thing that I could do, Hey, I could determine
Speaker 1: how successful it's gonna be. They they throw me the ball,
Speaker 1: I catch it, I take off. I'm asking someone else
Speaker 1: to critique me. Let that sink in now. So I
Speaker 1: got no saying I didn't vote myself number one. Nobody
Speaker 1: else on the list voted me number one. There was
Speaker 1: a panel that says, you know what, we think this guy,
Speaker 1: based on what he's done, should be the number one
Speaker 1: on the list. And that's boy, that's that's that's that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, and the guys that that's
Speaker 1: on that list that I have so much risk. Like
Speaker 1: I congratulate all twenty five people, but there's something special
Speaker 1: when you have a relationship where you know the guys
Speaker 1: that's on the list. So being around stephen A for
Speaker 1: the last four and a half months, to be around
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, like I said, I would bump into Ryan Clark,
Speaker 1: so I kind of knew who he was. But we've
Speaker 1: gotten a little closer and to see you and having
Speaker 1: a conversation that you and I've been talking behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: trying to push come up with something together, and it's like, man, man,
Speaker 1: look at us, man, look at us. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: this isn't our first choice. This is as in I
Speaker 1: chose a profession. Let that see it in you ain't
Speaker 1: going to school for this, No, we're gonna school for
Speaker 1: this to be to be an athlete and to just
Speaker 1: and to change over. You See, I had a professor.
Speaker 1: A professor once told me, he said, son, those that
Speaker 1: can do those that can't teach or talk about it.
Speaker 1: He says, you able to do now I can no
Speaker 1: longer do I have to talk about it and to
Speaker 1: be able to talk about it. And because I put
Speaker 1: so much time, I put so much energy into being
Speaker 1: great at this like I was football.
Speaker 2: It's it's everything. It's everything, transferring the transferring.
Speaker 1: Your work at it over, transfer the energy to something else.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think the athletes are moving faster
Speaker 1: because we have we have the foundation of a work
Speaker 1: ethic right, and all we do is just have to
Speaker 1: take it, take the work ethic part, even though we
Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing, and just put the work
Speaker 1: ethic and learning the information understanding like why this person
Speaker 1: is good? Like I watched Yes, I got a TV
Speaker 1: here here here, here, one right here back then I
Speaker 1: got a jumbos trying up there that got four TVs.
Speaker 1: I have everything going moving at one time, right, I'm
Speaker 1: just exorbing information styles like there's no when you when
Speaker 1: you're when you're launched the nightcap, there's a there's no
Speaker 1: there's no surprise, it's successful this show.
Speaker 2: You put the time into doing it. People.
Speaker 1: People successful people are successful for a reason all the time, right,
Speaker 1: because when when they're doing it, they put their.
Speaker 2: Passion and the love into it. Yes, that's what you
Speaker 2: have to do. And when you love something, you work
Speaker 2: for it, you work at it. Gil, Someone asked like,
Speaker 2: what were some of your favorite memories from the All
Speaker 2: Star Game?
Speaker 1: They asked me, what was some of my favorite memory
Speaker 1: from the Pro Bowl? Well, the Pro Bowl is different
Speaker 1: than the All Star Game. There's see, when I went
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, Gil, they actually tackled it was
Speaker 1: it wasn't this two hand touch stuff that they did
Speaker 1: away with it. It got so bad that, like you know,
Speaker 1: like tackle football is like tackle football, you really not
Speaker 1: need to put somebody on the ground. And so, but
Speaker 1: it was just the fact of going over there, seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of the people that I had when I
Speaker 1: was in high school watching seeing the j Rice Is
Speaker 1: being over there and rested, so Reggie White and a
Speaker 1: lot of the guys, and and and meeting of Dion
Speaker 1: Sanders and some of the all time great players for
Speaker 1: the very first time. But to go to the to
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl. Me and my brother we made it.
Speaker 1: We went ninety two. In ninety three, we were both
Speaker 1: starters in ninety three and uh and that was probably
Speaker 1: that was probably my fondest making it for the very
Speaker 1: first time in ninety two, but to go in ninety
Speaker 1: three and he and I were both starters, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's my crowd that's my crowding achievement for the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean when you're when you're selected one of the
Speaker 1: twenty four twelve in the East, right, you'll recognize for
Speaker 1: your your your talent. I mean I was, I was excited,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I know there's a video out there,
Speaker 1: like yo, we get to keep the rope, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you're getting to see all the stars, all
Speaker 1: the elite in the same building at one time. Right,
Speaker 1: you got the Shaquille, the Iris, and the Kobe's the
Speaker 1: the YAO means Leab Dwayne. You know, I made my
Speaker 1: first All Star with Dwayne, Wade, Lebron and Bosh right,
Speaker 1: and I have a big old painting on it and
Speaker 1: I have everybody's signature on it. Because I never knew
Speaker 1: if I was gonna make it back again, but this
Speaker 1: was gonna be a memory that you couldn't take from me, like.
Speaker 2: Like a little kid. I didn't even have to play
Speaker 2: in the game.
Speaker 1: Just my name being called as an All Star was
Speaker 1: everything because I remember Magic Johnson when you know he
Speaker 1: got diagnosed and that that All Star Game two Orlando
Speaker 1: that was and Orlando was my favorite tea. That was
Speaker 1: That was That was my my my biggest memories for
Speaker 1: All Stars, just the whole atmosphere. So being selected to it,
Speaker 1: it just put me part of that crew.
Speaker 2: Wow, Brandon, can you do it? In faber?
Speaker 1: Can you stop spamming cash app stop begging people for
Speaker 1: money because ain't nobody giving your damn broke ass no money, Brandon?
Speaker 1: Because every time I ask put you in time out,
Speaker 1: you pop up in another Brandon. So you ain't getting
Speaker 1: no money. Nobody giving your broke ass any money. So
Speaker 1: get out of here. Okay, Hey, is that from your
Speaker 1: chat of mind? I think it's mine. It's from our chat, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's from my chat, Gil, Brandon, Get your broke cass
Speaker 1: out of here, go get a job.
Speaker 2: Damn Brandon.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta change your name to be Wood. You
Speaker 1: should That might be my ex sitting there begging. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's one of your exes. Get I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think she's shooting that bad right now,
Speaker 1: you don't know my exes, then.
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Speaker 1: You know, when we get the four hundred and thirty thousand,
Speaker 1: I'm giving off five thousand tomorrow. So hopefully y'all we
Speaker 1: don't get this so I can say, my goddamn money.
Speaker 1: But if y'all get me there, goddamn it, get.
Speaker 2: It there by let's be cheap. Hey, I love throwing
Speaker 2: the money. I'm not getting it. Give me the more
Speaker 2: thirty and then they don't get me there. Cool, I
Speaker 2: can put it back in my pocket.
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