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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for joining us

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Speaker 1: for another episode of Nightcap Basketball Edition. I'm your favorite

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Speaker 1: sports unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number zero. Habachi

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Speaker 1: the man once played an NBA game and some Dolce

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Speaker 1: and Gabana. Yes, he did Dolce and Gabona. Some lifestyle

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Speaker 1: arenas Gil. How you doing tonight, Bro, I'm good. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me man. Thanks for joinings. You know

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Speaker 1: quite a while. Behind the scenes, we were both of

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Speaker 1: our teams were working timely trying to get this thing

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Speaker 1: together because we want to show people. Look, Gil has

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Speaker 1: this thing going and it's doing great. I've got my

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Speaker 1: thing with Ojo and Club Shay Shape doing great, but

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Speaker 1: we want to show people that we can work together

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people see all because of going

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Speaker 1: back and forth on YouTube and on Twitter and this

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Speaker 1: and that. One nah Gil is like, hey, bro, what

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Speaker 1: you want to do? You want to do something, let's

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Speaker 1: so here we are. Hopefully this is a sign of

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Speaker 1: many more things to come, but let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 2: The Bucks beat the Pacers one one twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Giannis has a career high sixty four points, breaks the

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Speaker 1: franchise record that was held by Michael Red fifty seven points.

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Speaker 1: He was twenty or twenty eight from the field, fourteen

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Speaker 1: the game was kind of got overshadowed because it looked

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Speaker 1: like the Pacers was holding the game ball for ransom.

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Speaker 1: What would you take away? But what transpired after the

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Speaker 1: that's history right there. Sixty four point. I would have

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Speaker 2: When he came back and tall, you bro, can you

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Speaker 2: sign this? Hopefully you got about it?

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Speaker 1: Hey, but you know, just like anything, that game ball

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Speaker 1: is special to you know, to the people who did it.

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Speaker 1: chase it down. Yeah, they were trying to keep it

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Speaker 1: that game ball is only special to you, it's not

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Speaker 2: That's the game game ball. Okay, they're trying to just

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Speaker 1: Tyree's like, bro, what I got to do? What hop

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Speaker 1: sixty four points. I don't care who is again sixty

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Speaker 1: Johan is twenty of twenty eight, fourteen rebounds, four steals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you watch the Bucks and you see Dame

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Speaker 1: and a Phillies. I don't I've watched the Bucks for

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Speaker 1: the game in which the Lakers won the nd season

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Speaker 2: My takeaway is that they don't play a liquor defense.

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Speaker 1: They're looking to push your tempo, make or miss if

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Speaker 1: If you make it, they'll take it out the net

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Speaker 1: I watched the Lakers get eighty six points in the

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Speaker 1: they could have had easily one hundred, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: the Pacers, what's your takeaway? Because maybe maybe I'm missing something,

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Speaker 2: No, no, right, now, you know the Pacers is a

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Speaker 2: They're young. They don't have defensive concepts. Right. They have

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Speaker 1: He can only do so much by himself, right, But

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Speaker 1: for the structure of the team itself, they don't have

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Speaker 1: it comes to being a defensive team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's don't let them score on.

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Speaker 1: The first opportunity, Like I mean, give give no blowboys, right,

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, they're one of.

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Speaker 1: Those teams where you just you can just straight line

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Speaker 1: we're gonna score one hundred and thirty. We might give

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Speaker 2: That's over for them. No, they can't. They don't even

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Speaker 1: Right, it's just one of it's It's it's Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 2: Right. Those are the teams you score sixty four on.

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Speaker 1: Right, They're gonna play possessions in the game that everyone's

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Speaker 1: But I just don't know how far they can go.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. Now.

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Speaker 1: They did beat the Celtics in order to advance to

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Speaker 2: You know that?

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Speaker 1: Because some of these guys aren't real defensive players, but

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Speaker 2: A prime example.

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Speaker 1: You lose one defensive guy, you still have two first

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Speaker 2: You think they're serious SINIS contenders. Yes, in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: That fourth quarter? Nothing, Because that fourth quarter showed us

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Speaker 2: enough players. We have we have a team, right, we

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Speaker 2: We just like we need to go ahead no matter

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Speaker 1: I think the next ten games we got what Spurs, Knicks, Bulls, Heat, Grizz, Clippers, Raptors, Sons, Jazz, Thunder.

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Speaker 2: You have DL who's not shooting.

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Speaker 1: they might take ten shots, right. Prince played well later

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Speaker 2: Gil I think the Lakers like we're trying to win

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Speaker 1: We're not worried about when Lebron's gone, we'll worry, we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll worry about getting somebody to pay with a D.

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Speaker 1: But right now, we got a thirty eight year old

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Speaker 2: Who's still at the peak of his powers.

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Speaker 1: Let's get someone right now, and we'll cross the bridge

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Speaker 2: Right, So he can shoot the three, but he doesn't

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Speaker 1: He's my he's my finisher. Damn if you do, Damn

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Speaker 2: You know, I like Xavine Levigne because he can pack

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Speaker 2: you don't lose. You don't lose with it.

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Speaker 1: But if I had more shooting, I'll take I'll take Damar.

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Speaker 1: But since I don't, I want to take Zach Levin

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Speaker 1: What did they say about you're gonna because they believe

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Speaker 2: As you say, de where just woll I don't want

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Speaker 1: They're looking at Van do O, They're looking at Tyrian Prince,

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Speaker 1: The facts it's that's that's the real problem right now

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Speaker 1: You you got you needed about four five more years

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00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 1: on you get seasoned because you're not right now. I

434
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: got to give it to a d because he's doing

435
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do against weaker They take this right.

436
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: That's what we've been complaining about when you have read

437
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: players on you. Yes, punish him, fats, that's what they for.

438
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: That's what they in the game for. Yes, in a

439
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: game to get this wood been to make better players

440
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 1: later on in life.

441
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: Correct.

442
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that since Ad is playing the

443
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: way we expected him for the last three years to play, we.

444
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: Can lay off of him a little bit and look

445
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: at the rest of our line now.

446
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: I think because we paid attention so much to Anthony

447
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: Davis that we really haven't been watching what we've been

448
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: collecting over the years. I think the biggest thing is

449
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: is that it's that we expect so much of him

450
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: and we saw what he was given because when they

451
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: traded for him before the Pelicans and he you know,

452
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: they fell out with each other, AD was averaging like

453
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: twenty nine to twelve, So we know what he's capable

454
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: of doing. We saw the man get a sixty twenty game,

455
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: so we know what he's capable of. Nobody just cared

456
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: because he's in New Orleans. But when you come to

457
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: the big stage of the Purple and Goal and that's

458
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: the home of the big man Micn and Chamberlain and

459
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: Jabbar and Shaq Row, you you got to play on

460
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: a nightly back.

461
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: There are no not off nights when you play for

462
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Any other team you might can have an

463
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: off night, but not the Purple and Goal. Yeah.

464
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: If Jianni's wasn't playing, if Yanni's Yokish and NB, if

465
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: they wasn't ball and getting the MVPs, I think we

466
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't be on Anthony Davis so much. I think it's

467
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: an American thing right now. But Gil, do you remember

468
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: what Ad did to Jokic in the bubble? I know,

469
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: did you remember what he went down at that playoff

470
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: right before, and what he did to Jannis and what

471
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: he did to Empeed?

472
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: I know, those are the expectations.

473
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: That you can't give us forty and sixteen one night

474
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: and give us eleven and eight the next year.

475
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: We just can't have that.

476
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying give us forty twenty back to back night,

477
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: but you can't give us forty and sixteen one night

478
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: level to eight the next one. Head Hey them, young body, listen,

479
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: you're giving them young boys that headache. And they growing

480
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: up now not even want that smoke. They want that

481
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: smoke backs. And that's that's the problem of that. He's like, hey,

482
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: you killing you kill him when they're young, when they

483
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: get old enough to defend themselves, they want that smoke back.

484
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: That's all, Oh oh yeah, I gotta get my link back.

485
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: I got to get that back.

486
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: Then we don't yoh no, no, no, you're not fit

487
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: to drop forty ten, forty and fifteen on me if

488
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: they goin't gonna get my lick backs? Uh. Someone named

489
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson just donated two hundred dollars saying I love

490
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh Joe, oh Joe, Hey, hey man, stop

491
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: running around like hey, stop run around telling everybody you

492
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: beat me.

493
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: We we know we're supposed to keep supposed to keep

494
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: that on the low time. Noah.

495
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: They called him tell it for a reason because if

496
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: he do it, he gonna tell it.

497
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: He was fast. I ain't know he was that fast.

498
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Oh he fast. Now I got I ain't gonna lie.

499
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: I got that work by some football players. I'm not

500
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: gonna lie like because I wasn't expecting them to do

501
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: what they can do right and then and they'll live

502
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: stromman in the average basketball player. Hey poor was Porter

503
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Porter the ride receiver from Oakland?

504
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, Jeedart Yeah, Jed Porter Man

505
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: he he he he dropped step monkey dunked on me

506
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: like I was a little kid. Man. I was like,

507
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: oh man, who is dude? Man?

508
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: That was playing like some little all star game and

509
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: he drops that just boom like oh wow, No, No,

510
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: I ain't no taking this from these crept No take this.

511
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: A Wimby said before the game.

512
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: He prefers Bronze nickname of Alien over unicorn, He said,

513
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: I hate I hate it when people call me a unicorn.

514
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: I must rather people call me an alien. Unicorn really

515
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: isn't original. What did you what did you take away?

516
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: What did you like about Wimby? What did you saw? Like?

517
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: Because he was going against one of the better players,

518
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: and ad can score and he can defend, and he

519
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: gave him thirty and what thirty and thirteen?

520
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Thirty and twelve? Now hey, hey.

521
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: He's coming like he's tapping into his ability, he's tapping

522
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: into what his gift is.

523
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: And you know, once you get through.

524
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: The NBA games and you realize what you see on

525
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: TV ain't all Superman, right, anybody ain't Superman from your TV.

526
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Everybody looked good on TV. Yeah close.

527
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: You start seeing their weaknesses and you start feeling filling

528
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: the game for yourself, like I belong. Yeah, like all

529
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: It takes this one game, one moment for to click

530
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: on and say, yo, I'm a part of this. I

531
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: can I can't play here. Ojo said he can play

532
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: for the Heat right now. They got a G league.

533
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: They got a G League.

534
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: Have you seen the talent over it? Every man? They're

535
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: that man? Oh yeah, that's a ymc ach and we

536
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: all can play for them.

537
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you're having dribbled a basketball in probably ten years,

538
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: and you know about any Oh Joe, And what I

539
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: try to tell people, it's hard no matter what profession

540
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: you hear, especially if it's a skill for profession where

541
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: you're using your hands, our coordination, you just can't sit

542
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: that down. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna sit this

543
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: down for three or four years, then just come back

544
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and pick it up and pick up where you left off. No, no, nah,

545
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But the players ain't got over there. Hey, hey,

546
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you got a chance. With the players on it,

547
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be in well, good conditioned, right, you're

548
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to put the McDonald's down a little bit.

549
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.

550
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: The NBA is suspending Draymond Green and definitely Joe dumar Is,

551
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: the NBA executive president and the head of basketball Operations,

552
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: said Drake repeated the history of unsportsmanlike unsportsmanlike acts was

553
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: considered in the decision to suspend him indefinitely. This is

554
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: the sixth time in his career he's been suspended. Draymond

555
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: is expected to receive counseling and work with the Warriors

556
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: in NBA while suspended, he has met the criteria he

557
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: has to meet criteria before returning to the court, but

558
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: Chris Hayines report that Draymond will be allowed to continue

559
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: practicing while serving his suspension.

560
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: But damn, what kind of holl up?

561
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me I could commit a

562
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: crime and I could continue to work, continue to go.

563
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: Do what I do and then you know, and not

564
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: go to jail. I mean, what what? What is this? So?

565
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: So basically he ain't suspended suspended right right, I'm off,

566
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: he's just taking some time off.

567
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: Hey this is uh was it a load load managed?

568
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Load management? This load management? But he's just not getting paid. Huh.

569
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: Hey, man, listen, I don't aid that may be triggering.

570
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: It depends on who's suspended them. Well, I think the

571
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: league suspended him. But dra gotta stop this. He gotta

572
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: stop this. I mean, come on now, I get it.

573
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: But one of my problems is why is the Warriors involved?

574
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Because it's you that's allowed this to go on. I

575
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: would have thought after Drake got suspended in twenty sixteen

576
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: for game forget what game was that? Game five? Game

577
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: five he said, I cost my team a championship. I

578
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: can't put myself in my team in that predicament again,

579
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, he constantly does it.

580
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: So I'm just.

581
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out where's the disconnect between dre and

582
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, he's spoke, he's the heartbeat,

583
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: he's the enforcer, but he's going over the line continuously.

584
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: You're right, listen, you can't turn it off. That's the problem.

585
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: You have to be.

586
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Able to take the good with the bad. No different

587
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: than Dennis Rodman. You turn off what you don't like

588
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: might turn off what you do like. Right, So with Draymond,

589
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: he's reacting in real time. Right when you look at

590
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: the things he's doing, it's it's not like you can

591
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: see it building up. There's no build up to this.

592
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: This is just reaction in real time and then boom explode.

593
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: So what's happening is if you take away and you

594
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: start making him think, you might lose the heartbeat.

595
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the only problem. I like it.

596
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I like aggression, but I love controlled aggression because right

597
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: now it's uncontrollable.

598
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: He's a taking time bomb.

599
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: So you know, everybody got the dogs that you know,

600
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: when somebody come in, he's like, he's growling and everything,

601
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: and it's all funny game until he bites someone and

602
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's not funny anymore.

603
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: It's not cute anymore. And that's what's happening with Draymond.

604
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: He go up to the line you could even look over,

605
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: but you can't step over at what point in time

606
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: because you know what, they're gonna tolerate that they can

607
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: replace it at some point in time, they're gonna break

608
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: this thing up. And we're gonna talk about Clay a

609
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: little later because right now, the only one that's that's

610
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: worth being there is kind of is Steph Ain't no

611
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: kind of it is step But Dramond he continually put

612
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: and I could see if he had done this and

613
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: they got KD, they still got enough to overcome it.

614
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: But in this situation, this is not the Golden State

615
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: Warriors of twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen. They can't

616
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: overcome this. When you if they were seventeen and three,

617
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even care, but the fact that they struggling.

618
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: Would he have done this at seventeen and three, because.

619
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, yeah, he gonna do this no matter what.

620
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: It's who he is.

621
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: It's who he's always been, right, So the ticking tom

622
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: bomb that's ticking all the time, and that's what makes

623
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: him great. The reason I can't like if I'm talking

624
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: to him, I can't tell him. I can't convince him

625
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: to say, hey, man, you're gonna have to calm it down.

626
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: When I got in trouble in the locker room and

627
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: I told myself, don't be Agent zero no more. Because

628
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: Agent zero himself was a daredevil, right, I was a you.

629
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Hey. You said, hey, I'm about to jump off the building.

630
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: I said, you make it here. I come to next?

631
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: Fun right, right? Fun? You could. You can dare me

632
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: to do anything. Right. But that's what got me in trouble.

633
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: So if I don't want that person anymore, I got

634
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: to take away my whole aggression.

635
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: So then I became docile.

636
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: Now I'm not I'm not the same person no more.

637
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: So when Lakers like, yeah, we need Agent zero, he

638
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: no longer hit you don't couldn't be happen with the leader.

639
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, But but let me ask you a question.

640
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: How long?

641
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: How much longer are the Warriors gonna tolerate this because

642
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: this seems to me they're at their with seeing because

643
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: he's become he's becoming more problem than he's worth. If

644
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm winning championships, I'm making deep playoff runs. It all

645
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: depends on where you're trying to go moving forward. If

646
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to break this thing up, you gotta go.

647
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: If you're if you're trying to build, like okay, within

648
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: the next three years, we're trying to get back to

649
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: the championship, you gotta keep them right.

650
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: Trade Clay, get.

651
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: Rid of Wiggins, try to get it into Paul George

652
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: and try to make a trade to put step back

653
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: in position to win. Then you need Draymond. But if

654
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna break this whole thing up, Draymond got to

655
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: go first.

656
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: This thing like a marriage, Gil.

657
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: You know, you see a lot of professional athletes get

658
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: a divorce once they done with it because all of

659
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: a sudden them far and smell it. They don't they

660
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: they you ain't making self eight ten million dollars. They're

661
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: a little steakier.

662
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: Now.

663
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I ain't got to put up with this. You hanging

664
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: out with your bone. I could tolerate that. When you

665
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: bring a home twenty million. Now you ain't bringing home

666
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty million. I can't tolerated as much as I once could,

667
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: So I need we need to go out separate ways. Well, Draymond,

668
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: we could tolerate this when you help us win four

669
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: championships in six years and we were the freehim and

670
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the team in the NBA. Now all of a sudden,

671
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: we've kind of falling on hard times, Draymond.

672
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could tolerate it like I

673
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: once good. Hey, they like they like a marriage when

674
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: your career is over with.

675
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Hey, we've all seen it. We've all seen it. Hey, hey, man,

676
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: hey brother, you married. You need to go home. Man,

677
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: she cool with it, and she cool you doing.

678
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: He Now all of a sudden you ain't. You ain't

679
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: making that money no more.

680
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you not in the livelight no more,

681
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: and you come home?

682
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: Where the hell you being?

683
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Hey, just a year ago I was out with the party.

684
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Wasn't the problem? Every problem?

685
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: Now? Hey, you want me to be docile, you better

686
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: get back in the league.

687
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Other than that, you better be normal. The thirty women

688
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: you had been folk better go down to this just

689
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: me right, And that's just how it is. But someone

690
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: said that. I don't I forgot who said it. Said

691
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: the referees are eavesdropping on their conversation. But I think

692
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: the refs are trying to keep it because we know,

693
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: we know what talking leads to, gil because somebody go

694
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: say something, go get the feelings hurt.

695
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: That's just the way we that's just the way we wire.

696
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, that's football. Y'all win like that,

697
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: y'all fighting people with your helmet on, with your helmet off.

698
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: No no, no, y'all feel like that. We got some sense

699
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. But y'all, no, you see, I'm like

700
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: this right here. The choke cost him eight hundred, right.

701
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: This is gonna cost some millions if he don't get

702
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: his shipped together.

703
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: So NBA players were not really trying to fight the

704
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: refs dropping.

705
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: Is that is the problem, Like.

706
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: You're trying to stop us from doing what when most

707
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: things that happen or or a reaction, and most of

708
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: the things that's happened is because of y'all are not

709
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: calling that whistle. Right, if you do your job, we

710
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: can do ours. But the fact that you don't want

711
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: to do yours, and we sitting here going back and forth.

712
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: They let let it happen. Let it okay, let it happen.

713
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: You're trying to stop stuff from happening when most of

714
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: the things are just right head on, a on an

715
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: instant play. It ain't when we japping back and forth.

716
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: When was Draymond talking to Nurdice? No, it is not

717
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: a damn dang Rudy would he put him in that

718
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: figure fold?

719
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: Not a damn Well.

720
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: They should have suspended Rudy Gobert's teammates for letting that happen.

721
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: That's who should have got suspended because can't and and

722
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: a man ain't doing nothing.

723
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't care.

724
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: You ain't running up on my teammate. No, no, you

725
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: grab your teammate. I grab my teammate. You ain't touching

726
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: my teammate. Facts like that's that's just the lay alone

727
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: with you like Raymond did was correct. What happened was

728
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: they grab you see what he did when they grabbed Clay. Oh,

729
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: y'all got the I got your man, I got your man,

730
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: I got your man.

731
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: I won't out.

732
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: That should have been an NBA orgy over that, bud.

733
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: Check us out the Lakers N Season Tournament banner. Charles

734
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: Barker said, you don't do champagne for N season tournament.

735
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: If the Lakers put the N Season Tournament banner up,

736
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to roast their answer on television.

737
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: I got one question. Is it a championship, championship or not?

738
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: It comes it says championship. The problem is we we

739
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: don't know where this is gonna be moving forward.

740
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna be you think they're gonna do

741
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: away with Let me ask you a question. Is it

742
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: more or less likely they'll have an N season tournament

743
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: next year and the next year and the next year.

744
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Or they're gonna do away with it? What's more likely?

745
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think this is in his

746
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: en it seems successful.

747
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: But why is Charles Barkley talking.

748
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to ask him you ain't raised, No,

749
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: you ain't raised no Bamer period.

750
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: You know if he's laughing that that championship? Is he

751
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: still giggling when Phoenix Suns.

752
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: And ninety three put up the Western Conference banner because

753
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: he was happy when that went up, exactly when the

754
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: Ones in Philadelphia when they hung up his Western Conference band, well,

755
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference?

756
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Was he giggling? Is Stigling.

757
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: No, no, so, because HER's the thing. What I've heard, Gil,

758
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: is that it's gimmicky. Let me tell you something, and

759
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm old enough. I'm a little older you a Gil.

760
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: I know something that they instituted in nineteen seventy nine.

761
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Chris Ford was the first one to make one, the

762
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: three point shot. They say it's gimmicky. They need to

763
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: do away with it.

764
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: Now, if you can't shoot the three, you compare to

765
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: play on the court in the NBA game. So how's that.

766
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: No, that's that's facts, Like they don't pay attention to history,

767
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: like there was no there was no shot blocking back

768
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: when you know Wilton was doing it.

769
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: So the fact that they're improving the game.

770
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Streeline got moved in, yes, two feet right, So this

771
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: is the first.

772
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: Year of it.

773
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: Twenty years now you're gonna we're gonna be sitting here

774
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: talking about, Oh he got twenty in season tournaments and

775
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: five NBA just the first one.

776
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

777
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: I had told I totally agree because I believe it's

778
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of like the play in tournament. They said the

779
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: play in tournament was gimmick kick. Now look at it, yep,

780
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: and that that counts as a playoff appearance for the

781
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: test was even the playoffs, and the Lakers gotten the

782
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: play in tournament and it went all the way to

783
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals.

784
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: So it is out try. I think he last.

785
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: The problem that I got is that people pick and

786
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: choose because I think the problem that they got that

787
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Lebron won because had Lebron had not won it, we

788
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't we wouldn't have any problems. Everybody would have been

789
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: cool with it. Because now that he win, it don't

790
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: mean anything. Had he not won, he can't even win

791
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: an end season tournament.

792
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: Now that's facts.

793
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: If if Denver would have won, it just continues with

794
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: their dominance from last year. If if Anyanni Pacers would

795
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: have wanted it would have got some TNT games or

796
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: ESPN extra games, moving moving further in the season.

797
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: So it is that Lebron's wanted. But that's what's gonna

798
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: make it sick. Right, But here's the let me ask

799
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: you this. You played against Kobe.

800
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: So in other words, in Jordan, and as competitive as

801
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: they were, they tell the story that Jordan uh Roy

802
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Williams told the story that he beat Jordan and Pool

803
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: and Jordan woul't play pool for two weeks and people

804
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: have told the story of Jordan and he quit and

805
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do this, He wouldn't do that.

806
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: And we know how ultra competitive Kobe was.

807
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: So if they'd had this thing, if David Sterny had

808
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: instituted this, so Jordan going boycot Sai man, I ain't

809
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: playing this gimmicky thing.

810
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: What's Kobe gonna do? Said? Now, I ain't playing this

811
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: gimmeck you thing? Or are they gonna try and win?

812
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. The reason because as long as

813
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: it's there, they're gonna try to win it. Jordan's winning

814
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: them bull those team is gonna win it if Kobe

815
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: is in the position and when he's gonna win it.

816
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: But Kobe was the same person who was arguing about

817
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: the new ball that came in.

818
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and he said and he he said this, he said,

819
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: if Jordan didn't play.

820
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: With it, I don't want to play with it. Don't enhance,

821
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: don't help me try to break records. Let me do

822
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: it on my own.

823
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: Right.

824
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: If Jordan didn't have this this ball that helps them

825
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: f in don't get that ship to me.

826
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons that the ball got boycotted.

827
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Because they're like those guys are like, nah, I don't

828
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: want it if Jordan didn't have it, because the ball

829
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: went from spauling it used to be spauling and NW

830
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: it's Wilson, I'm correct. Yeah, but this was a spauting ball.

831
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: It was that fusion ball. Yeah, it's kind of like

832
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: that feebball.

833
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Hey, I ain't gonna lie. Hey, you let

834
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: it go with it.

835
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Gave them motherfucker sie sing that one fifty all I

836
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: was doing working that ball. George Call. You know, I'm

837
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: really sick of George Call. I've never met the man,

838
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: but I'm already thick of him.

839
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: He tweeted.

840
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: The bubble banner in season banner stitch together would be

841
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: like one whole banner.

842
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: Boy, you didn't win anything, you know what. I just want.

843
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: I just want some can somebody can. One former player

844
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: tweet supportive of George Kall. Is there any of these

845
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: players that like him to play for him? This is George,

846
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: This is Matthew's right, This Matthews, Matthews, George George ca.

847
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

848
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Hey, when you don't like him, got to say his

849
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: middle name, George, Matthew, Matthew. Yeah, Matthew call, yeah, the one,

850
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: the one, the one who benched Kobe when he was

851
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: eighteen that uh in that an All Star game and

852
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: Kobe hated him since average thirty two points a game

853
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: and seventeen matches in the playoffs. And and George call

854
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: with them dynasty teams he was having.

855
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: The man won five, He had five fifty plus seasons.

856
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: Out of nine times to the playoffs, he was out

857
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: the first round eight of them.

858
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: That goes, yeah, he should go on here, shut up.

859
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: And I think he was.

860
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: I think he might have been the first, the first

861
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: one seed to lose to an eight seed when the

862
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Nuggets beat the beat the SuperSonics. Sir, he's ninety four.

863
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: He's an underachiever. Hey, we should actually we should thank him.

864
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: We should thank him for ninety two. See, people don't

865
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: know Matthew was coaching the Spain team in ninety two, right,

866
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: that's where he won. He got a championship in ninety

867
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: two over in Spain. Okay, t yeah, but he was

868
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: coaching those players that MJ was running through. Oh yeah,

869
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: you know when we beat them about forty one. Oh yeah,

870
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: that was that was your team. Again, Gil, we know

871
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: why the Bubble don't hold significance to a lot of

872
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: people who won who won the championship in the bubble?

873
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Ron, had anybody else won?

874
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Because what I heard, what people have been trying to

875
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: tell me for the longest, that Lebron James is the

876
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: most mentally weak in the NBA player that they've ever seen.

877
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: But he was the only guy and keep his team

878
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: and himself in that confined in that confined space.

879
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: For three plus months.

880
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: So if you're so mentally weak where you can't go nowhere,

881
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: you got cabin fever at the Ying Yang? How was

882
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: he able to stay so mentally focused while all the

883
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: mentally tough teams and players succumb to the pressure, Because

884
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: mentally weak is something people just throw around because of

885
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: tweets and stuff. Right, Nick week is is what the

886
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: Clippers were, Right, Oh, I don't want to be here?

887
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: Why should I go there? I'm scared for that's mentally weak.

888
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: When when you're talking about being in a jungle fighting

889
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: against players that are saying in I'm just here to win, right, Right,

890
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: You've seen what Booker did in the bubble, right, they

891
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't aid to know mentally strong that the guys who

892
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: went there just to go there. They were mentally strong

893
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: right now. From there, it's about bast the week, the

894
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: the mentally, we.

895
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Didn't focus on basketball. They complained about everything but the

896
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: game itself, right right, And that's the problem. Like you're

897
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 2: mad at the team who was more disciplined, that's all. Yeah, Clippers.

898
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: You can be mad all your wont Clipper fans, you

899
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: can be mad at your want, but your team is

900
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: the one who's complaining about everything.

901
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: We can't go to the strip club. We can't do that.

902
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: We can't do that.

903
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: That's been But if you notice they didn't want all

904
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you notice they didn't want to be

905
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: there once they got kicked out and they was up

906
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: three to one. Now when they was up to to one,

907
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: they was up three to one. Well, all we want

908
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: to be here. This ay, this is what it's about.

909
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: We're playing the game we love, no distraction, you get

910
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: chased down and all of a sudden, we ain't want

911
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: to be here.

912
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: Man.

913
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: We had checked out and we heard people say it

914
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna matter, so we checked out.

915
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: I heard that. Now they listen, listen, listen. They checked

916
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: out just like Doc Rivers checked out, right they checked it.

917
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: They checked all their asses out of that hotel. So,

918
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: in other words, they called Doc his job. Doc cast

919
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: himself that job. He had three to one playing golf

920
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: every day.

921
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: But but Gil, the players just said that they want

922
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: to be there. Hey, hey, this true story. Uh. Game seven,

923
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: Game seven?

924
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Uh, they come in the locker room, everybody focused, not

925
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: talking about his golf score that he did early today,

926
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: not the game itself. So he was speaking on just

927
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: his golfing and somebody mentioned to him, I hope you

928
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: ready to coach today because if you lose, there's gonna

929
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: be a problem. Because he was not focused on the game. Man,

930
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: that was out of that Listen during the game. I

931
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: heard during the game he doesn't he doesn't hit ellen Brand.

932
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Hey man, you got a job open for me?

933
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: What what I'm throwing a little extra in halftime? Yeah later?

934
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like the Drake kind of like the Draymond

935
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: situation when he's in the parking lot and he called

936
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: a katie after lebron chased him down three.

937
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: What very simple situation. You know. I added a little

938
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: yeas to the story. So the growth, but you'll get

939
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: the idea of it. You got it.

940
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: Clay Klay Thompson turned down a preseason contract this summer

941
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: worth forty eight million dollars.

942
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: How big of a mistake was that?

943
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: At first on I was I was like, man, that

944
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: was dumb, right, I thought it was. But when you're

945
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: making forty three and you jumped down to twenty four

946
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: being Klay Thompson, right, I'd rather take my chances in

947
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: free agency, right. I think financially it's a better move

948
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: because no matter what he averaged this year fifteen and above,

949
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: he can get two years forty eight, right, he.

950
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: Can get that.

951
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: So if I know, no matter what I do this year,

952
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: my name Lay Thompson, I'm averaging anything from fifteen to twenty,

953
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: the least I can get is two years forty eight.

954
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna sign this.

955
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Deal, okay, because I think what's happening is that they

956
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: see all the money. See what the worst thing you

957
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: can do is measure your words by somebody else's contract.

958
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: And what they're seeing is that these guys are getting money,

959
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: and I'm better than him.

960
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm better than him.

961
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: And he got five years one eighty five, he got

962
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: six years and this and that or five three years

963
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: or whatever, and now all of a sudden, you're like, well,

964
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm better than him, and y'all only offered me this

965
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: because everybody wants a max contract at thirty four, thirty five,

966
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: thirty six, and you and our both No, Gill, that's

967
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: not happening.

968
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: Unless you are the elite or the elite of the elite.

969
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Now, Lebron, guess what they'll probably get Lebron two more years,

970
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five meegues facts, but he's still

971
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: playing at that level.

972
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: Clay can't look at.

973
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: It and says, well, I want four championships in six years.

974
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: Well, we already gave you a max contract for that.

975
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: We got to pay you now based on what we

976
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: believe you would do in twenty four, twenty five, twenty five,

977
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: twenty six.

978
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: I can't pay you based on what you've done.

979
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: I gotta play pay you based on what I believe

980
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: you can do now. Actually, correction, they are gonna they

981
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: paid him.

982
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: Off what he did in the last four years. Right twist.

983
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: Nineteen twenty zero, he ain't play no games. He ain't

984
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: play no games. Twenty twenty one he played thirty two games.

985
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Twenty one twenty two where they won a championship, He

986
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: played sixty nine games last year and he's playing twenty two.

987
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: So basically in those four years, he played one hundred

988
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: and one games. Right, you worked forty eight million for

989
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: two years. You know what I think?

990
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: Fuck?

991
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: You know what I think screwed him up? You know,

992
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: I think screwed him up. This contract right.

993
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Here, three year ninety three million out of Middleton.

994
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the money.

995
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad paying Clay three year ninety three.

996
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I think if they would have offered him three year

997
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: ninety three the same as Middleton, I think he.

998
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: Would have He would have took that. Now I can't

999
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: but but here's the thing. Is he worth that? Now?

1000
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: I can't hate it. It was Middleton worth it well

1001
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: the same amount.

1002
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: They didn't.

1003
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: They didn't expect Middleton to have those knee issues because Middleture,

1004
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: remember Middleton and that that championship Midleicum geting people to

1005
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: gave that work business.

1006
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: He gave that work and then.

1007
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: He had that And the worst thing that really can

1008
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: happen is that you have an injury that you have

1009
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: to get opened up and your in your mid thirties. Yeah, now, Jil,

1010
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Now you you don't have the youth

1011
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: and recoverability on your side because once you because you

1012
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: already got up and down a lot, you got a

1013
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: lot of knowledge on those on those on that leg,

1014
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: on those legs, and now you have to go get

1015
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: me the scope or you get a maniscus or whatever

1016
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: the surgery is.

1017
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to overcome that. I mean, at

1018
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: thirty three men, you know, trying to He's out a

1019
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: four year deal to put it to thirty seven. I

1020
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: know that's the ideal, but it's one of.

1021
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: Those things where the bottom line is two year forty eight,

1022
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: and I know he's not starting off the season.

1023
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: The where he would have hoped. Right I'm pretty sure

1024
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: he wished you.

1025
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: Would be averaged about twenty five right now, where he

1026
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: can they can get this deal done right now so

1027
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: he can get some stress off. But the fact that

1028
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: he's playing horrible is forty eight is a two year

1029
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: forty eight even on the table now. No, No, if

1030
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: i'm them, if i'm them to be honest, I'm gonna

1031
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: just wait till he goes. If he keeps the same

1032
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: fifteen and nineteen, I'm gonna left.

1033
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm an left free agency dictate.

1034
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: What he's gonna get, and then I'll just match it, right, Okay, Right,

1035
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean I might lose them. I might lose them,

1036
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be banking on this.

1037
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: Is where he lives.

1038
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: The only team I can really lose Clay to, it's

1039
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: probably a Los Angeles Lakers, probably I can. That's who

1040
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: I'll be worried about. But then I'll probably throw in

1041
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: some extra lean on that he's been here four years.

1042
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: This is where he's been because because.

1043
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: Considered the Laker will probably be only maybe they'll go.

1044
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll go that extra year and maybe not twenty four.

1045
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that extra year they'll partially guarantee it. So instead

1046
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: of the full the full twenty four, maybe we guarantee

1047
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: sixteen of it. Hey, they got the money to do

1048
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do. Yeah, well both of shit,

1049
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: both got money. But I'm just leaning on. I'm leaning

1050
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: on just hey, what's gonna happen? Though they could they could,

1051
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: they could mess up. Let's say, with Draymond's already gone.

1052
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: If if Steph missed some times and Clay get in

1053
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: about averaging about twenty eight to twenty nine a game

1054
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: for about fifteen to twenty games span whoa.

1055
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: Is he still that guy? Ogill?

1056
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Is he still capable of doing that? Because you got

1057
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: that that acl and that Achilles. It robbed it. He

1058
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: robbed him of some of what Clay was an outstanding

1059
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: two way player. And granted, as as any player, as

1060
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: they start to age, they can't sit in the chair

1061
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: like they once could for an extended period of time.

1062
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: And you said something very interested. It made me think,

1063
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: is that you said Clay never improved his game from

1064
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: being a catch and shoot. You know, got spot up

1065
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: god hey, and he's great at it. But my retort

1066
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: to you, how difficult is it to get a guy

1067
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: to do something different when he's had such success doing

1068
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: it that way? Why would I improve? Why would I

1069
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: Why would I take it with something? Why would I improve?

1070
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know you see Steph. Steph added

1071
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: the layup package. Because Steph used to be an outside

1072
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: that got outside the paint got Now Steph added a

1073
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: layup package. He's even more damn you hug up on him,

1074
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: Steph and go by. You got great handles and can

1075
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: finished with either hand on either side of the rim.

1076
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: Clay hasn't didn't take his game to that level. It's

1077
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: it's a personal thing.

1078
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: Are you Are you working out to improve or you

1079
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: working out to get stats and get achievements? Right, Like,

1080
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't want someone who works hard, right, I want

1081
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: a worker that means their their self improvement is what

1082
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: they build their their foundation on. Oh you number one

1083
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: right now, right right, gonna stop you from working every

1084
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: hell now, I'm trying to maintain that.

1085
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying the same thing.

1086
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: Like when if I see a flaw in my game,

1087
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: when I go into the summer and I look at Synergy, right, Oh,

1088
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: you know I'm going right, I'm bad at the left,

1089
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm bad at this corner the first three the first

1090
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: two months of the summer. Right, That's what I'm attacking.

1091
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm attacking those weaknesses, right. I hide behind championships MVPs.

1092
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: Because the greats didn't.

1093
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: The greats improved every year after every year. Today couldn't

1094
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: prove anymore. And that's where I don't see Clay. I

1095
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: don't see Clay improving. Yeah, you got four rings, Cool,

1096
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: you have a scoring title.

1097
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: That's what you do.

1098
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: You should be trying to get scoring titles. You should

1099
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: be trying to be the main on a team. That's

1100
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: how you should be going into the summer working averaging

1101
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty one your whole career. That's cool, right,

1102
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: But what about like, okay, as I start to get older,

1103
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: let me add something to it. Maybe not let me

1104
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: maybe now, let me put the ball on the floor

1105
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: and take it instead, you know, And I understand the

1106
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: three point is more valuable than the two. But let

1107
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: me put the ball on the floor and maybe I

1108
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: can get to the rim because people are going to

1109
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: look to chase me off the three instead instead of

1110
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: side stepping to clear space. Maybe I put the ball,

1111
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: take two three dribbles and maybe you know, kids it

1112
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: off the glass from twelve there. What's so funny is

1113
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: I remember when I had I value Clay more valuable than.

1114
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: Steph at the beginning of that dynasty, I.

1115
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: Said, well, one A six, seven, as long if he

1116
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: can learn how to dribble the ball, I can put

1117
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: him at the point and then get a bigger shooting guard.

1118
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: I've been saying the same thing, learn how to dribble, Like,

1119
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: what do you do right here?

1120
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: You you've learned that since she was little. That doesn't

1121
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: go nowhere.

1122
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: If Steph Curry took the summer off of shooting and

1123
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: worked on ball handling and stuff.

1124
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: He's still gonna be Steph Curry, Right, you don't lose that.

1125
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: I can go to yard right now and make seventy

1126
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: five out of one hundred, and I ain't shot in months.

1127
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm lying. I'm lying, y'all. Yeah, I shot this morning.

1128
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: That lie exactly because you look at the cansel boy,

1129
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: you look at the cancel about, you look at the

1130
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: cancelerbody on the hustle.

1131
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: You're looking for the couple up. You're gonna come back.

1132
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: Shot man.

1133
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: I ain't shot, man, I ain't shot like three four months.

1134
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: I tried to get him up.

1135
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: I know you if somebody would go fall for that,

1136
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: KEO check this out. Katie has some very interesting things

1137
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: to say by Draded pros game presser. He said that

1138
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: was insane to see. Never seen that in an NBA game.

1139
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: He hasn't been that way when I was around or

1140
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: coming into the league.

1141
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: So I hope he gets the help that he needs. Bro.

1142
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: That's two people say Dre needs some help. Two people

1143
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: on the same team believe they said it. No that

1144
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: we've seen him do the antics. I think you know

1145
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: players like them, man, when when the.

1146
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: Team ain't good. The frustrations higher. Yes, I think his

1147
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: job as as the as the heart beat.

1148
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: I think it beats hard, harder, faster when you're losing,

1149
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: like he don't have no time to relax.

1150
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: Like he's trying to figure out.

1151
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: How to will this team the wins. When you win

1152
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: in every game, the antics don't come out. The antis

1153
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: is starting to come out when you when you're now,

1154
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: when you're losing and you know your backups against the wall.

1155
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gil, you know how this thing worked.

1156
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: You remember when you was going sixty seventy fifteen, when

1157
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: you was going seventy three or ninety, you beat the

1158
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: hell out of everybody. So guess what time, Well, guess

1159
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: what happened when it's time to get my lip click back.

1160
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: I tried to tear your ass up to and I'm

1161
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: trying all of you. Remember Gil in the third, the

1162
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: start of the point quarter, Hey, go to State Warriors,

1163
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: Stall playing Draymond Day on the sideline. They'll build up

1164
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: a thirty point lead. Our team's trying to build up

1165
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: those thirty point leads on bass. Yeah, and and he

1166
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: ain't going on without a fight, obviously, I said, man, yeah,

1167
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: it's it's Uh, it's it's a very unfortunate situation. But

1168
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: my thing is the Warriors. The only problem I got

1169
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: with this girl. Yeah, Draymond was wrong, but the Warriors.

1170
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: Draymond has been this exact way. Now, all of a sudden,

1171
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: you want to intervene. Now that you want to have

1172
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: an intervention, it's like, okay, drey mind, we're gonna put

1173
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: an armored throw.

1174
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 2: Y'all.

1175
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Should have stopped this, y'all. Y'all let the man clip

1176
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool. No matter what Jordan Poole said. He didn't

1177
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: deserve what Draymond did. But I fought Jordan Poole because

1178
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, when you argue with a man, as long

1179
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: as you on one side, then we argue it. We fine,

1180
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna let you close the distance.

1181
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: Gill. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1182
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting that first one off and I'm not gonna

1183
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: let you walk up on me and then you shut Now,

1184
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna shove because the moment you see it at

1185
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: your peripheral and you could tell the different tone. I

1186
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: don't I don't know out of this, but you could

1187
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: tell the tone when somebody like Okay, dude, dude, might

1188
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: want to do so Okay, So now I got to

1189
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: go to a different place mentally, because all of a

1190
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: sudden that on fun level, hed, you ain't gonna do thathing,

1191
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna do thathing you do it on that

1192
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: talking Now, all of a sudden, I gotta let Okay,

1193
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get.

1194
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: What you're looking for. Yeah, we ain't. We ain't like that.

1195
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: Uh ain't that. We ain't. We ain't like that.

1196
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: And you right, you know what? Gain I keep you

1197
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: know what? And I've heard I've heard NBA players say that,

1198
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: But being in the NFL locker room, it's a different

1199
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: level of testosterone than machiesemo because even if a guy

1200
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: has to take an ass cutting, he's not gonna let

1201
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: you punk you. He's not gonna let you walk up

1202
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: on it because he first of all, he can't.

1203
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: He can't. You can't, you can't. I don't care.

1204
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a d lineman and the

1205
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I don't care if it's a running back

1206
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: of the linebacker.

1207
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: Respect is everything.

1208
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, see, when you only got fifteen players

1209
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: and really you count.

1210
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: On eight, right, for the most part, most.

1211
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Of the stuff is not personal right right. You know,

1212
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: it's rare where I hate you on the court and

1213
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: off right, Like like me and Karan on the court,

1214
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 1: we bumped right off the court. Boom, we go right

1215
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: right off the court. Me and Antoine never hung out

1216
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: on the court. That's my goal to guy, you know

1217
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you know it's rare that you

1218
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: don't like each other off and off that and when

1219
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: that happens, you need to get traded.

1220
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Well, first of all, you punched me.

1221
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: Somebody got to go either I'm going to a different

1222
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: team or I'm going to jail, because we got to

1223
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: fight every day till.

1224
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm win in. Hey, how do we like you? Huck

1225
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: bro Gil You not finna?

1226
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: Let no man, just punch you in your face and

1227
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: y'all go back and like, Okay, we're gonna play eighty

1228
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: two games together.

1229
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: That's why I had that thing in the locker room.

1230
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay, they told you, Hey, listen, that was That wasn't

1231
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: the first time I remember Karen wanted to have a

1232
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: meeting with me.

1233
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: I had to thank on me in the locker room,

1234
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: just in case, just in case of Bob the case

1235
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: back up, back up.

1236
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: But I mean but kil I mean you had to feel.

1237
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, you brought a desert egle. I have

1238
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: a desert ego, and I don't know what You gotta

1239
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: got the forty four mag while you got the fifty

1240
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: cown bro man, I think you pulled that bag. I

1241
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: liked the joke in the first Batman he called that

1242
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: they kept coming. Is that a shotgun with a pistol grip?

1243
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: I went that a head gun. Hey lady, I couldn't

1244
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: shoot him. I didn't shoot him. I just had him.

1245
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: You just tried to care. You just tried to scare

1246
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: him off.

1247
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: On scare. We ain't trying to fight out. We ain't

1248
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: gotta listen.

1249
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: We ain't got muscles like that to be trying to

1250
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: fight nobody. So he Hey, I just got the muscle

1251
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: to scare him off. I ain't really trying. I got

1252
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: old now. I have got too old a tumble girl.

1253
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lit to you. I got too old

1254
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: the tuncle. I woulda get my car drive away. This

1255
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: might help clear up the ball situation. Rick Carlile said

1256
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: in his postgame interview. He said there was a misunderstanding

1257
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: about the game ball. It was Oscar she be she

1258
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: Bei's Tahibi, right. I think It'shibi, the guy from Kentucky.

1259
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: First official NBA points and we are always get the

1260
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: game ball, so we're not thinking about Yanni's franchise record.

1261
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: Unfortunately in that situation, So the guy that scored sixty

1262
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: four points, he gonna lose the ball to.

1263
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: A guy that scored two. Oh, so they gave it

1264
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: to their own.

1265
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: Y'all is gonna hey, hold on, hold on, check this out, Gil.

1266
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: The game was in Milwaukee. How the hell do you

1267
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: think Indiana you get to keep the ball?

1268
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: I just thought about that. How the hell did they

1269
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: get to keep you gonna get to keep them? Rick?

1270
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: You you bull? That's what he rick. That's some bull jobs.

1271
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: But hey, hey that.

1272
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I can tell you this right now, that

1273
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: bus ain't leaving. I'm not leaving. They probably ain't listen.

1274
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: They probably donna switch that ball anyway. So the one

1275
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Yanni's got eighty, the real one if he didn't get

1276
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: a man, Yann is dirty like that.

1277
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: Listen, because it's the same thing. My first my first.

1278
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Two points, especially that tradition, my birth points. I said,

1279
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: because you can't take that back. That's my career But

1280
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: to be honest, I never heard no shit like that before.

1281
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: I never heard nobody. Hey, hold on, you know that.

1282
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: First of all, I've been in a lot of games,

1283
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: and I know when running backs had great one hundred

1284
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: and fifty two one of your games. I know when

1285
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: receivers had two under your games. I know when quarterbacks

1286
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: threw for three. I understood. And now, obviously the balls

1287
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: are different because every team got their ball. It's not

1288
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: like basketball, when everybody you know, the basketball is the basketball.

1289
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: You shoot with that ball. We shoot with that ball.

1290
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: But in football, the Broncos got their ball, the Raiders

1291
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: got their ball.

1292
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: But you mean to tell me that you you didn't

1293
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: know Joannis had sixty four points. The man dropped twenty

1294
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: six on you in the fourth alone.

1295
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: Come on, Rick, they didn't care.

1296
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: He they want him and he they want him to

1297
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: pay footback.

1298
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1299
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: Hey, they wanted to pay food back. That's all that is. Hey, well,

1300
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: hold on up. The NBA is gonna get that ball.

1301
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: What the hell they getting the.

1302
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: Poor do they get the ball or the shoot? They

1303
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: get one of them. The NBA gets one of them

1304
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: for the okay for springfield.

1305
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get they get one of them they gonna

1306
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: get something like, I'm trying to figure out it was

1307
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: my jersey they got on my I should have been

1308
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: at that game. I should have been at Milwaukeer. I said,

1309
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, can I have your jersey? Him not realizing.

1310
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: One of them the NBA gets one of those.

1311
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, do you believe Zion

1312
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: has been overly criticized? No, because if if, if we

1313
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: do not criticize him, that means we.

1314
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: Accept what he's gonna be. If he keeps up the same,

1315
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: if he keeps gaining weight.

1316
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: Right, if he keeps gaining weight, then we we we've

1317
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: accepted it. So we're like, all right, we're fine, We're

1318
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna call you a bus and just move on to

1319
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: the next start. So the fact that we're still talking

1320
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: about me, we still see the potential of what he

1321
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: can be. Right, I agree, But I think I think

1322
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: the problem is more people care than he does, because

1323
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: at the end of it, at the end of the day,

1324
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: gil is a personal choice. I can't and I just

1325
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: want used to tell my kids all the time, I

1326
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: can't want something more for you than you want it

1327
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: for yourself. And right now there are people that want

1328
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: Zion to and get his training, and it's eating under

1329
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: control more so than the Zion wants to get it

1330
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: under control, because that's.

1331
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: What it is.

1332
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: And if even let's just say, if even if he

1333
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: has an eating problem, no matter what your demons are,

1334
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: we create those demons, we must chase them away. So

1335
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: and the thing with Zion I understand. But again, Gil,

1336
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: when you look at him and he's doing what he's doing.

1337
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: He's given you thirty and twelve and he's two three

1338
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. What incentive does he have now if he

1339
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 1: was giving you six and at six and eight Now

1340
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: he's like, man, I need to lose weight. But because

1341
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: he's having these outbursts, but he should have said, you

1342
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: know what, look how many games i've done missed. That's

1343
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: a direct reflection of my conditioning. And I'm too heavy.

1344
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: Let me do so about it. You know what the

1345
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: problem is. Have you noticed he's heavier now than he

1346
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: was in training camp? See he's heavier now. Yeah, then

1347
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: he wiched out. They're not because of training camp. You're

1348
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: doing a lot more running as opposed to now because

1349
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: all you get the game and then shoot around.

1350
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing really going on? Yeah?

1351
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: And see, and that's the problem is it's he's trying

1352
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: to be normal in this ain't football where you're coming

1353
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: to practice.

1354
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: At six am and you leaving, you know, six pm.

1355
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: He probably, to be honest, he probably not even burning

1356
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: a thou not even five hundred calories working out every day.

1357
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: So that means he consciously, at twenty three years old old,

1358
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: have to sit at go home and.

1359
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: Do two hours of cardio.

1360
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: So he has to really just I'm gonna diet, I'm

1361
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna work out, and that's that's not what he was

1362
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: built on.

1363
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: He wasn't built on that type of discipline.

1364
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna take that's gonna take like real self check,

1365
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: like as soon as the summer hit and he has

1366
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: to lock in and say, all right, I'm gonna go

1367
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: into the summer and I'm gonna lose sixty pounds. He

1368
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: can't do that in the no way in the season. No, no, no, no, no,

1369
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: it's done right now. What's going on is done. The

1370
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: season is over. You can't expect him to lose thirty

1371
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: pounds right now. No flying, partying, eating, traveling, sitting. No,

1372
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: he ain't losing no weight right now.

1373
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: That is right. Stamn near impossible. He better get on

1374
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: some AfterAll, he better is if they check off, they

1375
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: better check off that drug. Tessey. Hey, if.

1376
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: I think the thing gil is is what I tell

1377
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: what and people as well, Shannon's disciplined. To you, it

1378
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: would wires you to do your best when no one

1379
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: else is watching. You see the problem. I bet you

1380
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: when Zion when giant, when people are around Zion eating

1381
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: chicken breasts, eating little posta, you know he eating you

1382
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: know he eating fruit. But then we listen, Bro, you

1383
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: can't fool people like but Shanna elephant eat all he

1384
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 1: eat is grass.

1385
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he eat five hundred pounds of grass, so yeah,

1386
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 2: you can. You can overeat even if you eat nutritious,

1387
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: which he's not.

1388
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: And big, I've never seen someone be big yung a

1389
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: big a big big. Young people normally grow to be

1390
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: big old people, and big old people don't live long. Now, listen,

1391
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: everyone killed me when I called it out, and luckily

1392
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: me and him are still.

1393
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: Cool because I called it out. I called it out

1394
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 2: when he was in college. I said, eighteen years old,

1395
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 2: nineteen years old.

1396
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: At two eighty five, that's not good. So what you

1397
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: thinking if he's two eighty five? At eighteen and you know, eighteen, man,

1398
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: I can eat anything I want to. Yeah, it kept.

1399
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: I kept a twelve and I ain't talking about in

1400
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: the frieze. Hey, I mean I couldn't even really walk

1401
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: around into something.

1402
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: I would lock up. I had so many muffs.

1403
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: But as I started the age, you have to work

1404
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: because as you start to get older, Gill, you either

1405
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: have to work out harder or eat cleaner. And sometimes

1406
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: you got to do both ye or both b O

1407
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: A L both both both. But but the thing is,

1408
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: people say, well, Zion need a personal a personal chef,

1409
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: Zion need personal accountability. You don't They acting like he

1410
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: don't have a show. He got a chef he got.

1411
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: You can't. But you can't be cooking at you faith.

1412
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: You can't be cooking jump alive. You can't be cooking gumboat.

1413
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: You can't be be cooking that he got. Hey when

1414
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: a chef league he got uber.

1415
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: Eats, Yeah, that's what you can't. You can't be heat

1416
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: a dove. And Ben yates that it's just.

1417
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: He might eat when he's sad, he might eat when

1418
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: he's happy, like you know what I mean, It's just

1419
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: it might be his sting like you know, it might

1420
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: just be his singing. He's just gonna have to lock

1421
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: in one day. And yes, listen, I don't want this

1422
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: no more. I don't want this from my life because

1423
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: to get something you've never had, you got to.

1424
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: Do something you've never done before. Always, you know, to

1425
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: be an NBA champion, I want to be that next level.

1426
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: I got to get rid of this.

1427
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Food happened, yes, and it's not really it's not taking away.

1428
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: The food is taken away at certain times of the day,

1429
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: right or the portions.

1430
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 2: Portions, that's the thing.

1431
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: And so I just wish, I just wish I could

1432
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: sit down and talk to us, say, Zion, people are

1433
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: like this because they care. Because they didn't care, they

1434
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: would let you do what you would continue to do

1435
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: that you're gonna do what you want to do. But

1436
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: don't think people are taking shots at you, because if

1437
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: they thought you were bummed, they wouldn't care. In fact,

1438
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. And but people love you and they see

1439
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: what you can be. Sometimes people can see things in

1440
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: us we can't see in ourselves. And I think this

1441
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: is a this is a prime example. Uh, he thinks

1442
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: everybody is coming down. Well, if it's coming if it's

1443
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: coming from a good place, where's would it come from?

1444
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: Zoons laughter.

1445
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: Jokes, Like we've been laughing at it for a while,

1446
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: Like it started in Summer League when he was sitting

1447
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: on the bench after his first game, had that belly.

1448
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: He just he just he's just packing a lot of weight.

1449
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: And I think they have to make it at twenty three.

1450
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: They have to make losing weight fun. They gotta treat

1451
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: him like a little kid. Right, Hey, come on, baby,

1452
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: good job, you lost two pounds. Keep going well, like

1453
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: it's one of those you're gonna have the baby until

1454
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: it becomes a routine form where he's happy doing it. Yeah,

1455
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: I believe the first person giving his body type, the

1456
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: first person he should have contact.

1457
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: Once he decided he was going pro.

1458
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: With Charles Barkley because Charles Barkley had a very similar

1459
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: situation and Charles, he said, Charles said, Moses Malone to him,

1460
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: say you fat. Yep, it's simple as that, you fat fat,

1461
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: Hold up, no, no, no, no, you fat fat, and

1462
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: you lazy. So sometimes it takes blunt, harsh criticism for

1463
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: it to resonate and stop, because maybe that's the problem.

1464
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, come on, you know, drop a couple of no,

1465
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: tell him the hard truth and hopefully it resonates. But

1466
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: I want the guy to get it because we've never

1467
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: seen somebody that size that explosive. He has a Ferrari

1468
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: engine and a Matt truck body. Yes, and he's and

1469
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: he's moving it. The fact that the fact that we

1470
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: are laughing and talking about it, and he's averaging twenty

1471
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: three six and five. And the thing is the guy

1472
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: can win mel But you know, but here's the thing.

1473
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: When you that size and you that explosive and you

1474
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: jump up and down in an NBA game over the

1475
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: course of a season, the body wasn't made A body

1476
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: that size wasn't made to do that. Gil nobody would

1477
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: made to do that six six times six times a

1478
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: weight coming down every POUNDY gains, that's six times yea.

1479
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: He needs to be.

1480
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: Realistically, if he can get back to he's only twenty three,

1481
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: so if he can get back to.

1482
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: To fifty two sixty.

1483
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: To fifty two sixty, because he'd be that'd be that'll

1484
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: be him, like right before he went to a duke. Yeah,

1485
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: like if if, if, if I'm him, I'm gonna I'm

1486
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell Lebron James. Hey, hey, I'm sorry, but I'm

1487
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: spending the whole summer with you. Yeah, for sure, And

1488
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know what you normally pay your chef. Don't

1489
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: pay up, because I'm gonna pay up. He's gonna cook.

1490
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live. I'm gonna live in the guest house. Yep,

1491
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live in the guess house. And I want

1492
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: to see that man. Got twenty one years and he

1493
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: going strong, and it looked like he's gonna be going

1494
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: for twenty two to twenty three. Knock on wood, nothing

1495
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: unforeseen happen because he's gonna get the call. He's gonna

1496
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: call his shot. He's gonna walk away when he wants to. Yep,

1497
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the luggage.

1498
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: Ain't no, ain't no a. Lebron ain't gonna be able

1499
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: to tell me. No. Hey, hey, I woulda do. I'm

1500
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: gonna do.

1501
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Lebron like Kobe did Jordan. I'm gonna

1502
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: nag this. I'm gonna nag the s h t out

1503
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: of them, and you go, hey, come on boy, come

1504
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: on son, and I want to take a liking to it.

1505
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: Check this out, life and love Gil.

1506
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: What's the simplest thing someone can buy for you that

1507
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: would make you happy, the simplest thing.

1508
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: That they can buy for me.

1509
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: Yes, man, un at this age, man, I don't want

1510
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: nothing that that costs right.

1511
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: The things that I won't don't cost nothing. Right.

1512
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: That's peace, loyalty, honesty, love, right like I hope I

1513
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: thought you set up for some potato chill man like respect.

1514
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: Like the things we're looking for out of out of

1515
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,440
Speaker 2: just a partner themselves and people that's around their trust, dignity, loyalty.

1516
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: That's what I want because you can't buy that. No gilt,

1517
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: you can't buy That's why.

1518
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: What about a shirt? Can we get you a shirt?

1519
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: Can we get you can? Can we get your pair

1520
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 2: of teeth?

1521
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: Can we get your pair of advantage of agent zeros?

1522
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: You can buy me some sand dudes? Hey and be

1523
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: a cheet right there? No thank you, I won't. I won't.

1524
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: What's freighted? I won't what was free?

1525
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: A I done got the sweaters and all that stuff.

1526
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: And then find out the kid. You already already know

1527
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: what the kid you know? And look, give me a car,

1528
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: my kid, don't buy me anything, just give me a car,

1529
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: because they already told me, daddy, what can we buy

1530
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: you that you don't already have?

1531
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: And you can't get yourself get your daddy a car

1532
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: if we could.

1533
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: They gonna stick some movie tickets, but they don't do

1534
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: the movie tickets anymore because I don't go to the

1535
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: movies like that.

1536
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: But just give me a card. But you know what

1537
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: I have.

1538
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: I was, I was dating this young lady and I

1539
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't tell her anything. But she was just

1540
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: very observant. And when I came home. I came home

1541
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,919
Speaker 1: one Friday, because what I do. I go to practice

1542
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: and then I would, you know, go get my hair

1543
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: cut and then I come come home.

1544
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: So I didn't. I wouldn't get home until about probably

1545
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: about four o'clock, five o'clock.

1546
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: And she had watched me over the course of life,

1547
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: and I've never said anything. And she had three zero

1548
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: bars candy bar zeros.

1549
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: You like the zeros bad she had.

1550
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: She had three zeros. I've always drank ginger real and

1551
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: she had the honey barbecue corn chips and so and

1552
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: she had she had to you know, obviously ginger was

1553
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: in the refrigerator. But the zeros and the and the Honey

1554
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: barbecue corn chips were sitting there and when I walked in,

1555
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: because she had never fought me this before, but she

1556
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: just saw I would and I just walked there and

1557
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: walked there and I just gave her her I said, thank.

1558
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: You, because I like, I like, I like observe it.

1559
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I was having was having a conversation, me and

1560
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: some of my teammates and they were talking about you know,

1561
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: their wife and all this, and talking about sharp you

1562
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: ain't even married. I said, I tell you what. I

1563
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: bet you. I bet you, and I bet you. I

1564
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: bet each of you a hundred thousand. I said, I

1565
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: want you all to do. This is what I want

1566
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: you to do. Pick any fast food restaurants, Burger King, McDonald's,

1567
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: there's a restaurant called Black Eyed Pea, or some borrow

1568
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: with a piece of place.

1569
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: I said, tell you what, call your wife.

1570
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: Tell her to gold there, go to one of these

1571
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: places and don't tell her what to get you and

1572
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: you tell me what she gonna get. Now, I'm wonna

1573
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: call my girlfriend and I'm won't tell her to go

1574
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: to one of those places. And I'm gonna bet you,

1575
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: you and you a one hundred thousand apiece. I bet

1576
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: you she'll come back with whatever I told you.

1577
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 2: She gonna get.

1578
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: No man, y'all talking about y'all marriage and your wife

1579
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: know you so well. I want to take my girlfriend

1580
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: of two years, and I bet three of you are

1581
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand a piece.

1582
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: Guess what, gil Ain't nobody want to take the bell naw?

1583
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: But I say, I tell you what I'm gonna do

1584
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: to show you how you you're lost your day of money.

1585
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: I've called him, go to black eyed p and I

1586
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: hung the phone up, I said, I hung the phone up. Now,

1587
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: I said that she gonna come. She gonna bring me corn.

1588
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: She's gonna bring me a chicken breast, clean rice, corn,

1589
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: green beans and two rolls.

1590
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: And that's what that's what you're broung. I know she

1591
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: did absolutely.

1592
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: This is this this when when women asked me, and

1593
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: I told women stop asking this god damn question to men, stop.

1594
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: Asking what do you see me? What are you looking for?

1595
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: Don't you We don't know until you give it to it.

1596
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: Like we have a vision, but you need to bring

1597
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: something that I saw something.

1598
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm here on her.

1599
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I like, bring me Like men never been loved.

1600
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: We don't know how to receive love. Yeah, right, that's

1601
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: that's one thing we we're not taught how to receive it.

1602
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: So when someone like I don't know what I'm looking for,

1603
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: but when I see it, god damn it, I know

1604
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: that's it.

1605
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's what it is.

1606
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: You you doing the things that you you're looking at

1607
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: my life and you're beating me to it. You know, Hey,

1608
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: you know I put my clothes in the hamber boom

1609
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: it's clean the next day, like, oh, my sandals boom

1610
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: is clean. The water's running at five thirty am, because

1611
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: that's when I wake up. You woke up, turned it

1612
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: on because you know I'm gonna be getting up in

1613
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: thirty more minutes, like you're doing the things before, and

1614
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't have that ask I fask Lord. Yeah, but

1615
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: my thing was gil. I've I've had a couple that

1616
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: knew me, knew me better than I knew myself. And

1617
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: because I ruined it because I was afraid, I'm like,

1618
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: how did she know me?

1619
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: But she just watched.

1620
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: Everything that I did, everything that I said. Shannon, is

1621
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: this one's birthday? Shannon, is your mom's birthday, Shannon is

1622
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: Livy's birthday? Shannon, you need to do this well such

1623
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: and such. It was just like clockwork. And it scared

1624
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: me so because I had never had anybody that took

1625
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: the time to get to know me like this and

1626
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: to know what I liked, what I didn't like, and

1627
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: to you want me to pick this up.

1628
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to such and such a what do you

1629
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: need do your mom? And it? I aft it up

1630
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: because I didn't know.

1631
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know because growing up, that's not that's not

1632
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: how look like. My grandmother never said she loved me.

1633
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: My grandfather never told me that they loved me. Love

1634
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: where you got a roof over your head, you got

1635
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: food in your stomach, and you got clothes on your back.

1636
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: That was love to me. And they didn't tell me.

1637
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: But I knew it that I could feel it. But

1638
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: as I got older, that's like I didn't know my

1639
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: my my gifts is my love. That's that's That's the

1640
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: way I show you that I love you. I'm trying

1641
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: to get you things that everybody can't have, and and

1642
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: and my therapist says, Shannon, the problem that you have

1643
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: is that you and your partner speaks two different languages.

1644
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: You speak Mandarin, she speaks Spanish. Now one of you

1645
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: guys need to learn the other words language or it's

1646
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: not gonna work. And that's that's my problem. And plus,

1647
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: the thing is, it was easy to say, you know

1648
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: what during my career, gial, it was easy to say, ef, it.

1649
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: Ain't working on nothing. The only thing I'm working on

1650
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: my game. You ain't a part of the game. Are

1651
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:43,520
Speaker 2: you go buy?

1652
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: It's easier, it's easier to give up when when you

1653
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: when it's foreign to you, yes, if if if you

1654
01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: loving me, this is foreign yes, never received it before.

1655
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: And that's that's one thing in that capacity, yep. And

1656
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: that's one thing that men we have to do a

1657
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: better self Like ask your father and he be like.

1658
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: Hey, like how were you loved? Right?

1659
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: So I know what it looks like, like was it

1660
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: rubbing your feet saying this? And because we don't know,

1661
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: we we think when we're young, breaking.

1662
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: My window, killing my cars? Love? Oh yeah, yeah, hell

1663
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: now she loved me.

1664
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: I got served, Listen, I got served on basketball court

1665
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: and like why you have four kids with her?

1666
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: Should I thought it was love?

1667
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was love, not just motherfucker's just crazy. Yeah,

1668
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean, I mean it is a

1669
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: little love. You ain't got no you ain't got no

1670
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: bleach on your clothing. You ain't got no bleach on

1671
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: your pothing love. You gotta do it and leave one time.

1672
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: You gotta. You gotta bleach about stuff up one time.

1673
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: But that's what we think it's loved when today right,

1674
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: we got to learn.

1675
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: We got to learn as men how to be loved.

1676
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: We know how to a woman, we know how to

1677
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: be loved from a woman. So we're getting it. And

1678
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: we see a rough patch we taken off.

1679
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: Gone. Yeah, oh it's easy. I can get that.

1680
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: I can get six mold just to do this thing.

1681
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't need this love shit. I can just do

1682
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: this part. Hey, how you doing? Get you that's easier

1683
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, sitting there and just taking the responsibility

1684
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: sometimes Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the thing is,

1685
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: I wish I'd have had the mindset, the mentality that

1686
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: I have now in my fifties. I wish I'd have

1687
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: had that in my in my twitters gial, because I'd

1688
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: have saved a lot of money and a lot of

1689
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: heartbreak from myself and some women. Because I know, not

1690
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,440
Speaker 1: only have I been heartbroken and disappointed, I'm sure I've

1691
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: done the same. And I've let some good women go

1692
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 1: in my life. I know two for one thousand percent certain,

1693
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: one thousand percent, one thousand and if I had it

1694
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: to do over again, things will be a lot different

1695
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 1: in my life. But hindsight is a magnificent science because

1696
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: I have the luxury of knowing.

1697
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Today, Hey, ain't too, ain't too. But I didn't know

1698
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: yes what I didn't know yesterday? Ain't two got away?

1699
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: Two more coming? That's all you gotta look at too

1700
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: more coming. They're coming down fideline. But you only need

1701
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: one of them. But but but here's the thing. But

1702
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 2: how much time do I have? The vet? But the

1703
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 2: thing kill gil.

1704
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: I look at my life in summers, bro I got hopefully,

1705
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: if I'm lucky, I got twenty five. I got twenty

1706
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: five good summers to go. How about I mean you

1707
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,879
Speaker 1: got to spend at least five of them beating somebody.

1708
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: You Obviously, whatever vet and routine you got didn't work.

1709
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: God damn it. Did you know it wasn't no vet

1710
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: processing back then? Oh you look good.

1711
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: You you stacked up like laundry in the dorm room.

1712
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 2: Come on, you'll work. You know. Back then everything everything

1713
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: was based on aesthetics. Huh, you look good curving.

1714
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: That works, but then all of a sudden wants the

1715
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: allure of the curves and that face. Now, what what

1716
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: am I stuck with you?

1717
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: Hell? All you do is are you? Is? It's never

1718
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 2: good enough?

1719
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: I hate the one thing that I hate worse than

1720
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: a woman is ungratefulness, because I've had women. No matter

1721
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: what I did is it wasn't good enough. And that

1722
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: irks me because I'm i'm, I'm, I'm I'm I'm giving

1723
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: you all. I'm giving you all, and maybe that's my

1724
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe that was my problem give is that what I

1725
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: was giving they didn't want or I didn't know what

1726
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: they wanted, or I couldn't give them what they needed.

1727
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: But I gave them what I thought because that's all

1728
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: I can do. I mean, I can't do. I can

1729
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: only I can only be or give you what I

1730
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: think you want. And you told me at the time

1731
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: that's what you wanted, what you want it so and

1732
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: that's why, like for me, I hate buying gifts for

1733
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: my for my significant other, because I really want you

1734
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: to have exactly what you want. I would just rather

1735
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: go write you a check or give you cash and

1736
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: let you go get it, because what I hate gift

1737
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: is that I get something like ooh, and you could

1738
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: tell what they don't really want it or they don't

1739
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 1: really like it.

1740
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 2: I'm crush. You know. We all have the same problem.

1741
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 2: We all have the same problem.

1742
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: Like if I go out and buy something I thought,

1743
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: especially with the time we have, yeah, man, thought to

1744
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: go get you something, and I come back and give

1745
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: it to you, and it's like, oh, okay, this was up.

1746
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: No damn, will I know you you came by what

1747
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: I just bought you? First of all, you you can't

1748
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: give me what I just got.

1749
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: You think whatever gift you gave me is gonna be good.

1750
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 1: I have to say yo, because we don't get gifts.

1751
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: So whatever gift you give me, I'm going to love

1752
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: and appreciate.

1753
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I mean I'm expecting the same thing.

1754
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: So when when you don't like this gift.

1755
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Or I give you this gift and you eat it

1756
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: and all that, all you break my heart. All you

1757
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: doing is breaking my heart a little by little breaks

1758
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: my heart because man, gil I bought I bought this

1759
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: young lady a cardiac. Great, because here's the fact, this

1760
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 1: was like Durdan like pandemic time maybe short a little

1761
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: bit after and and it was hard that the Cardier

1762
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: store you just got, you know, back in the day,

1763
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: you just roll up on the Cardier store. But I

1764
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 1: had to make a reservation. Okay, I made a reservation

1765
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: and I'm standing outside. Yeah me, I'm standing outside waiting

1766
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: to get in the Cardiac store. So I bought it this.

1767
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this would be nice. I mean,

1768
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, hey, gona be, I've seen it. I saw

1769
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: it on him one time. Hey man. And then women

1770
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: think we like see that's what said. Women think like

1771
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: we play us And I realize our actions now are

1772
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: because of something that happens. Like same thing I bought,

1773
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Burking bags, right, yeah, and I had

1774
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: one custom. It took one year to make it custom,

1775
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: her favorite.

1776
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 2: Color, custom, just for her. Yeah.

1777
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: I seen it on eBay like four months later. Because

1778
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: they need to rent money.

1779
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: Never get.

1780
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 1: Not that I ain't getting you a gift card. You

1781
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: can't even get a Starbucks twenty or no more from me.

1782
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: It happened to me because I got, you know, because

1783
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I buy I used to.

1784
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: I used to.

1785
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I still buy some stuff occasionally from LOUI everyton so

1786
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the guy would call when they get exclusive stuff in,

1787
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: They're like, mister Sharp, you know we got this in

1788
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: you would you like to take a look at it?

1789
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I run down there and take a

1790
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: look at it, Like, yeah, I like to get it.

1791
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Man.

1792
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,799
Speaker 1: I probably bought probably had twenty five of those bags

1793
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: between Gucci and Lewis, and probably the cheapest bag twenty

1794
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: five hundred most expensive out of ten bads.

1795
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: We broke up. She pawned them all by last one

1796
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: of them. See uh.

1797
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, we it wasn't instead of that,

1798
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Instead of that, Gil, I would have rather her say,

1799
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: you know what I really need the money? Times have

1800
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: gotten tough. These bags that you out of bought them

1801
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: back from exactly, Oh my god, yes, out of brought

1802
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: them back from him. Uh my daughters, I got a

1803
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: daughter I got, I got two daughters, and I got

1804
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 1: a sister.

1805
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: Could have gave bag. I got a hold.

1806
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: I got a Hallway homeboy I got, I got two

1807
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: homeboys that got wives. Hey, pick one for your wife.

1808
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: I could have bought him back. That's out of bought

1809
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: them back, I wouldn't hold. I would have already spent them.

1810
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: And that's the funny part. We already spent the money.

1811
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: We would spend more money just to get back what

1812
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: we It's what all flooded sweat was into it because

1813
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: I would I would rather my daughters, my sister, my

1814
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: mom would have got a bag. My mom probably my

1815
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: mom doesn't really want no bag like that, my homeboy wife.

1816
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: They because at the end of the day, at the

1817
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, forget the end, in the middle

1818
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: of the day, in the morning. All I want you

1819
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,440
Speaker 1: to do is appreciate what I've given you, because.

1820
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 2: I bust my ass to get you that. And that's

1821
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: I think.

1822
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to how we obtain our money,

1823
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: it's easier when you don't make it to spend it

1824
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: for us.

1825
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: So when we come out and we buy you stuff

1826
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 2: and we we we.

1827
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Are willing to open up the pocket, but you have

1828
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: to really understand we're open up years of our work

1829
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: ethic for you. This is years of our worker These

1830
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: are lines drills I'm giving you, right, I'm willing to

1831
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: give you these lines drills and for you.

1832
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: To just be like, it's cool, thank you, appreciate it,

1833
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: throw it in the closet. It hurts, That's what hurt. Us, Yeah,

1834
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: for sure. Let me.

1835
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's another question. Bial would you take before?

1836
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Not now?

1837
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Because I already know the answer. Now, would you take

1838
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars why to you right now? Or

1839
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: a coin flip for ten million? So so before before before?

1840
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: So you're from Cali, right, yeah, So let's just say

1841
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: twenty years twenty years ago, twenty five, twenty years ago. Okay,

1842
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: somebody says, okay, I'm gonna wire you one hundred thousand

1843
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: or a coin flip for ten million.

1844
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:41,759
Speaker 2: I got a flip.

1845
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: Only the only reason is it's fifty fi. I got

1846
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance to win ten million, because you

1847
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: got a fifty fifty chance to go home with your

1848
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: hands in your pocket, just like you can't with nothing.

1849
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, since twenty years ago, I'm a high school kids. Shit,

1850
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:57,879
Speaker 2: my dad gonna take that money anyway.

1851
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. I said right now, I'm

1852
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: talking about right now. Oh it's a no brainer for me.

1853
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: But you talk about me in high school or college,

1854
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: damn that coin. As a matter of fact, I would

1855
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: put the coin in my pocket and say give me that.

1856
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: That makes you get that a hundred thousand. I don't know.

1857
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: It's two ends. It's an oh in, I don't believe it.

1858
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, no, no no, I could oh, Gill, Gill,

1859
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: you have to understand. I didn't have indoor plumbing. I

1860
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: didn't have running water. Do you know what a hundred

1861
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: thousand dollar would have did for me in the eighties?

1862
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: I know, but that athlete, the athlete gonna kick in. Yeah,

1863
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna kick in ten million, just to flip. I

1864
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: got heads.

1865
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I could have had somebody got some indoor plumbing in

1866
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: my grand house. I could have got some padeling. I

1867
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 1: could have fixed that roof. Oh no, oh no, I

1868
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: was sorry. I was middle class.

1869
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about no hell, I'm not

1870
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: middle Yeah, I was middle class. On hell. I almost

1871
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 2: didn't make it in middle school. Oh my middle class?

1872
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah guy? How no? Oh no, gil, Hey, I went

1873
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: to school with Tim Tamira. Yeah, Brandy, Oh yeah, yeah,

1874
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 2: you showed up middle plans? Damn kill? Is it okay?

1875
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 2: Hold to just say a gil? All right? What's up? Shot?

1876
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: How y'all doing out there? Everybody good? A Sunnyside? Yeah,

1877
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: I've never been on Crenshaw. You right, Hey, gil, Uh,

1878
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: someone just donated five bucks and they said, would you

1879
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: guys level of fame and money, how do you know

1880
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: if someone is genuine or just wants you for your money? Oh? Man,

1881
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna always be our achilles hell because

1882
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: it is there's no real engagement of uh finding out

1883
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: if somebody wants us for us, right, you know that's

1884
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: not I think turmoil determines that throughout the relationship. Yeah,

1885
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: we can determine that during or at the beginning, there's

1886
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: nothing that person has to be conflict. Yeah, it has

1887
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: to be conflict to see what happens. You know, even

1888
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: though we don't want the conflict. It has to be

1889
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: to see if that person's gonna dip on us or

1890
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: cheat on us or whatever.

1891
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be.

1892
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: We have to go through something as a couple because

1893
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: I know when it's smooth sailor it's kind of like

1894
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: in the Bible when the Devil's told God today, the

1895
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: only reason Jove serve you is that you give him everything.

1896
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: He said, if you remove this head, he will curse

1897
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 1: his berry baker. And he said, look, you could take everything,

1898
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: but it's like so if everything is always good, I

1899
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: mean if you in the Roles or you in the

1900
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: bill Ley. You got the BMW and we got the

1901
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: six eight ten million dollar home. We get to fly

1902
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: private three or four times a year. We get the

1903
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: bill of that's fifteen thousand of the night for a week.

1904
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: What's the complain about. I need to see some choppy waters.

1905
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: I need to see some bumps in the road. I

1906
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: need to see some turbulence and to see if you're

1907
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna walk, if you're gonna walk with me, because now

1908
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: if I only see one set of footprints, ye, when

1909
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: it gets rough, that's gonna be a problem because I

1910
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 1: know you left me alone, and you left me to

1911
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: do this by myself.

1912
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 2: And a lot of NBA players, a lot of athletes

1913
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: themselves are finding that out when they're done playing, when

1914
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 2: they're done playing, because that's when the road gets choppy,

1915
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: because that's when.

1916
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 1: The player himself is trying to find out who he is. Yeah,

1917
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 1: you're not the NBA or the football player no more.

1918
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 1: You are yes, a husband and a father, and we're

1919
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: trying to figure.

1920
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 2: Out who we are.

1921
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: And those women leave without that because at the end

1922
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: of the day, deal, you're absolutely right, because at the

1923
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: end of the day.

1924
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: Who are we No, you're not an NBA player. You're

1925
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: not an NFL player. That's what you did. Who are

1926
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 2: you well?

1927
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: No, No, Glennville, george is where you're from. Who are

1928
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: you well? For the longest time, I was from Glennville, Georgia.

1929
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I was an NFL player. That was my identity. So

1930
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: at this present time, I don't know who I am.

1931
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: I need time to find out who I am. Are

1932
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: you gonna stay with me while I go on this

1933
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: I go on this trick and so it's tough, and

1934
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell anybody that's not But the thing

1935
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: is with me again for me is that I've been very,

1936
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: very fortunate. Is that if I got it, you know,

1937
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: if it's with a reason, I'll help. I'll help the

1938
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: person that I'm with because I've always believed that I'm

1939
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 1: gonna get it back. But I'm gonna get it back threefold.

1940
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it back tenfold. So whatever I gave

1941
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: you fifteen hundred thousand, I'm gonna get it back.

1942
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. If then what I'm I'm I'm I'm all.

1943
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna win because I'm always moving in a

1944
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: place with a good heart.

1945
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: No ill intent. Yep, that's just that's just the way

1946
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: I am.

1947
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 1: And if I can help somebody, I've been very fortunate

1948
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: that God has blessed me, giving me the ability, uh

1949
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,520
Speaker 1: not only play the game that I love, of football,

1950
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: but to transition into my second career. The same thing

1951
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 1: with you, Gil, God gave you the ability to play

1952
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: at least a decade in the NBA, transition to your

1953
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: second career, and pretty soon people are gonna forget that

1954
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: you were an NBA player, and then all of a sudden,

1955
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,560
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be your celebrity old I was. I was,

1956
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I was a pretty good you know, people forgot that,

1957
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, he I did play in the NFL, and.

1958
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 2: I was okay, I did okay. But and so but

1959
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 2: for me, it's it's it's hard. I don't know.

1960
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't really know if what the answer is without turbulus,

1961
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 1: without conflict, I don't know if we can never find

1962
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 1: that diamond, because that's what makes diamond.

1963
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: The pressure. You're right, and he said it, yes, sir.

1964
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 2: So if.

1965
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: Someone donated ten bucks, I think JJ the King Shannon

1966
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: does does does Shannon?

1967
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 2: And Gill?

1968
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: Does money make you happy with yourself? The tangible product

1969
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: itself doesn't do anything for me. I love money for

1970
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: what it allows me to do. I can do things

1971
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: for my family. I can only have dreamed of my kids,

1972
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: my mom, my sister, my brother, my homeboy, that they

1973
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: need something I can help.

1974
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: I honestly, I buy very very little. My agent last year, yeah, there.

1975
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: Was this car because I hadn't bought anything for myself

1976
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 1: for a very very long time, and this was gonna

1977
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,879
Speaker 1: be the last year they were gonna make the Challenger

1978
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: in a gas model. They're going to the EV model

1979
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: And I was short it to my agent and he's like,

1980
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: get it. I was like, Nah, I think I'm okay.

1981
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: He said, Noah, get it. He said, you haven't gotten anything.

1982
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: He says, every time I turn around, you're doing stuff

1983
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: for your kids, doings for your mom, doing stuff for

1984
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: your sister. At what point in time are you gonna

1985
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: do something for yourself? Shannon, I was like, but it's

1986
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 1: like no, he says, And you can only save so

1987
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 1: much and not be happy because all you doing is saving.

1988
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 1: He says, what you think is gonna happen. We got

1989
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: your trust in it, We got your trust in your

1990
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 1: state squared away. You think they're gonna save this money,

1991
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: or they're gonna enjoy it. Were you making it, you

1992
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: probably should enjoy some of it yourself while you're here.

1993
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 2: So in't got it?

1994
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: Got it?

1995
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Like like when people say money

1996
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 2: don't make you happy, Hey, this shit don't make me sad.

1997
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: I can tell you that, Gil. You know what I say, Gil,

1998
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 2: It ain't no crying on the yacht Yachi.

1999
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: He where you're fart and when you're set, when you're

2000
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand feet up in there, Thank you.

2001
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

2002
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: You reach the comfortable cruising altitude of thirty five thousand feet,

2003
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: sit back, relax and enjoy your flight.

2004
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,759
Speaker 2: We got a travel time of four hours and thirty minutes.

2005
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 2: Oh I'm pretty good. I hate cried.

2006
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: But for me, it's it's what it's what money allows

2007
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: me to do. That it puts my mind, It puts

2008
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: my family mind at ease. That health care and things

2009
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: of that nature, Gil, things that I worried about as

2010
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: a child, things that my family worried about as when

2011
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: I was a child, or having to make ends meet,

2012
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: or we gotta you know, we can't pay the phone bill,

2013
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: but we got to play the light bill. We can't

2014
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: pay the light bill. We got to pay the gas bill.

2015
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 1: There ain't no more worries. And I tell you, I say, y'all,

2016
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: and even do. I tell my kids, I'm I'm I'm

2017
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: last option, not first choice. I said, well, you guys

2018
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: should not have anything to worry about. Do what you're

2019
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and everythings gonna take care of itself.

2020
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 1: My mom, I said, Mom, why you worry, I mean

2021
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: worried about. What all you gotta do is spill up

2022
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the phone and call my sister. I've given her the greenlight.

2023
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Whatever you need, it's done. It's taking care of my sister. Hey,

2024
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: I've given her the green light, whatever you need, take

2025
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: care of it. Everything is taking care of my brother

2026
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: the same thing.

2027
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: He gonna call it.

2028
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: Hey, bro, just wait, bro, you good. So that's what

2029
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 1: the money does for me. I mean, have it like

2030
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: to know I got it, But no, it's what it

2031
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: allows me to do. It's the peace of mind that

2032
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: it gives me. Gill because like I said, I ain't

2033
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: really spending no money on me. I'm spending money like

2034
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: my family. I want to see them happy because my purpose,

2035
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 1: I found out. My purpose is to work is to

2036
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: see people. To see it is to see my family

2037
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 1: and the people that I care about happy.

2038
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: That's that's that's I think. I think the real, the real,

2039
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 2: the real thing behind. Does money make you happy? Are you?

2040
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 2: Are you making the money doing what your gifted at

2041
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 2: ryes when I'm if I'm doing, Like when I when

2042
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 2: I retired and I got all the money in the world,

2043
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 2: I was not happy because I didn't I didn't do

2044
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 2: what was I'm doing. I don't know who I am.

2045
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm not playing.

2046
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm not playing what I know since twenty eighteen when

2047
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I got into podcast.

2048
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 2: And this is what makes me happy. And if I

2049
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 2: switch to my the best of.

2050
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: My ability, the money's coming. But I'm not doing it

2051
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: for the money, right, you can get ten shows. I

2052
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 1: can be in here a second. I'm happy. Yes, I'm

2053
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I can't wait the Monday come. Yes, but

2054
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: damn when Monday ain't around here, come on Monday.

2055
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm switching.

2056
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to sleep early so I gona wake

2057
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: up on Monday to dude, to do what I'm doing.

2058
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: These are the fastest years out of I played basketball. Yeah, Yeah,

2059
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: that's that's your your purpose of my person's saying is work.

2060
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: That's our calling. That's where we get that's where we're

2061
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: most at peace, that's where we're most And I element

2062
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: is to do this is to talk about, like you said,

2063
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: to do what you love and to get paid.

2064
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.

2065
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 1: Most people don't get an opportunity to do it they love.

2066
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: They're working a job that they don't love. Man, Man,

2067
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 1: I can't wait, Man, I can't I can't wait till

2068
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:36,799
Speaker 1: the weekend.

2069
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 2: Bro, it's Monday. You just came off the weekend. You

2070
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 2: just came off the weekend.

2071
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: What the hell you gotta do this, baketball You got

2072
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: another six hours and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and

2073
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:49,839
Speaker 1: you talk about.

2074
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 2: You can't wait till the weekend.

2075
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: But to get up and to do something that you

2076
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: love and to do it for the people that you

2077
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: love and the appreciation that my fans and my subscribers

2078
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 1: and my listeners, that's what That's what makes it worthwhile.

2079
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 2: That's that's really what makes it worthwhile. Man. You can

2080
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 2: see it. I'm not even gonna lie.

2081
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: You know behind the scenes when we talk and I

2082
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: was like, man, listen, all I pay attention to is

2083
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 1: the greats.

2084
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 2: Why they're great at what they do?

2085
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, the jobs, everyone's getting, the momentum everyone.

2086
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: It's not on accident, right, you know you love this.

2087
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 2: I can see it. Yeah, you know what I mean.

2088
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: And that's and that's when when you're when you're doing

2089
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: it at that purpose, you can own you can only

2090
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: be great at it. I think the thing is the

2091
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me. Also, gilt is that I saw

2092
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Hell, I saw in print money.

2093
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 2: So why is it?

2094
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: Why do I need to be jealous of somebody else

2095
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: because they got a bigger platform. Let me work hard

2096
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: to see if I can grow my platform. Hell they

2097
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: print money, yep. And because you get some of it,

2098
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: don't mean it takes from me. We've got to get

2099
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: out of thinking that if somebody gets something, it's coming

2100
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: from me. Acts No, this is just my opportunity. And

2101
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: people like, you know, people don't. I don't think people

2102
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: see the work that goes into something like what we do.

2103
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: People just thinking that we click the button and we

2104
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: just start talking. But there's a lot of work to

2105
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 1: come up with a format, to come up with a rundown,

2106
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 1: to come up the obviously, but when we talk about

2107
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: sports and uh, and I think it's the same for yours.

2108
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: People might come for the sports, but they stay for

2109
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: the stories, Yes, sir, because of the relatability. Because you're

2110
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: talking about two guys and you're talking about myself and

2111
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: your you and oho.

2112
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 2: Is that Let's see how similar some of the things

2113
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 2: that they've gone through is what I went through.

2114
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: Because sometimes people think because you got money, it solves

2115
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 1: all your problems. No, it might give you an opportunity.

2116
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 2: You better better.

2117
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're better equipped to to get out of situation.

2118
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: It helps you solve them, but it does not absorb

2119
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 1: you of them. And so for me to do this

2120
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: and the opportunities that I've been afforded to have people

2121
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: to help me get to this point.

2122
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: And to push me and to be genuinely happy.

2123
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: Man, that's what it's about, Gil, That's what it's about,

2124
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: really though, Bro, It really is, like I just I love.

2125
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: Doing the research part of it. I just you know,

2126
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: just the media.

2127
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Itself, right, you know when people talk about TNT, ESPN,

2128
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: like people don't realize when when I go on those jobs,

2129
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: I'll call it director and say what is what can

2130
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: I say?

2131
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 2: Which words is banned, which words is the least I

2132
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:44,560
Speaker 2: want to know? It?

2133
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 1: All? Like I treated like basketball when Dwayne Wade told

2134
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: me to say, hey, listen, when you go into your

2135
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: second job, this is what you are good at. Don't

2136
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: go in there as Gilbertereni is three time Allso are

2137
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: three all NBA?

2138
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Speaker 2: You going there as a beginner? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, what the green snow? Pay attention to the grace.

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Speaker 1: They're there for a reason. Yes, you don't know what

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Speaker 1: you don't know. And that's the mistake that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people make, is because just because you're good at

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Speaker 1: something doesn't mean that you'll be good at something else.

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Speaker 2: And are you willing to put the time? Are you

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Speaker 2: willing to put the energy in it?

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Speaker 1: Because for me, I worked just as hard at this

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Speaker 1: job as I did football, even though I was better

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Speaker 1: at football, because yeah, God gave me ability.

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Speaker 2: To be able to talk.

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Speaker 1: But there's a difference between just talking when you're in

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Speaker 1: the barbershop and talking with your homeboys.

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Speaker 2: They talking with a mic at a camera in your face.

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Speaker 2: It's something entirely different.

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Speaker 1: So, Gil, you got a question, They said, hold on,

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Speaker 1: let me get this gil Tim Grover talks about how

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Speaker 1: hard how you was one of the hardest workers.

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Speaker 2: Such as training, how was it, how was it regularly

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Speaker 2: they of training with him? It all, it all depends.

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Speaker 2: So like when I was with Tim Grover in the summer,

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Speaker 2: I'll get up about five thirty, so five thirty, take

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Speaker 2: my shower, even there's still still regimend today.

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01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: Get up five thirty, shower and then get there. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there about probably about what seven fifteen,

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Speaker 1: seven thirty. So I'm on the court about eight o'clock,

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Speaker 1: eight to ten, eight to eleven, my first workout, take

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Speaker 1: about an hour two our rest, and I'm back.

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Speaker 2: In the gym round two to to five. Then I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go eat dinner maybe depending on if I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go back in probably about six to ten and then

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Speaker 2: have that final it. So I was working. I was

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01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: trying to do. I was trying to really put in

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Speaker 2: an eight hour shift.

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Speaker 1: Wow, because that's what that's what Kobe was doing. That's

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Speaker 1: what Michael Jordan, That's what I heard, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm tru when I heard Kobe went

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Speaker 1: to a special ops guy when I missed those two

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Speaker 1: free thows against them, Ron, where's toobs? Guys just go here,

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Speaker 1: I come right, like, I'm the elite, is the et

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Speaker 1: leitet for a reason, right? And if you only seeing

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Speaker 1: what you're seeing around, you can only be this right,

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01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, like they're all stars in here, you know.

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Speaker 1: But he's a superstar, right, So I want to do

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Speaker 1: what the superstars do. I went to Grover because Kobe

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Speaker 1: went to Grover. Jordan went to Grover.

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Speaker 2: Joe give me. I'm gonna give you myself. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: give you my regimen. Is it good enough? Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: You judge me? Is it good enough? So he can say, well, man,

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Speaker 2: Jordan was doing a little bit more. What else was

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Speaker 2: he doing? Right? I went there to show him my

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01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 2: work that they so he can critique it. Wow. There,

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Speaker 2: And this is what I tell guys all the time.

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Speaker 1: There's a price for greatness, and if you're not willing

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Speaker 1: to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great.

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Speaker 1: That facts, there's a there, there is a price. There's

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Speaker 1: a selfishness that you must have. There is not one

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Speaker 1: great player that's unselfish. You have to be unrelenting, you

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Speaker 1: have to be demanding of your time and give less

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Speaker 1: than a damn about somebody else's I gotta.

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Speaker 2: Be look at the greats. Look at the greats.

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Speaker 1: When you mentioned Kobe and you look at you, look Mike,

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Speaker 1: and you look at Tiger Woods, the greats of the greats.

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Speaker 1: There's a selfishness that is demanded. It's mandatory. And people like, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: And what's the first thing they say with a player

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Speaker 2: that's good, Oh you're too selfish.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to be great. Yes, yes, it's mandatory.

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Speaker 1: It's mandatory, like that you that that you don't I

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Speaker 1: can't be willing nearly with my time. That my time

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Speaker 1: is the most important. Time is the number one is

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Speaker 1: the number one currency. Don't let anybody tell you different,

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01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: because it's the one thing that you cannot recapture. If

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Speaker 1: I lose a million dollars, I can go make two

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01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 1: millions and make it up. But the one thing I

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Speaker 1: can never get back, it's the number one currency. And

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Speaker 1: then people like me and my chat were good, but

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01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 1: you know, like outside the mother chat, they'd be like, man,

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Speaker 1: you arrogant.

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Speaker 2: I work my ass off to be what I work

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Speaker 2: eight hours and nine hours in you I'm yes, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm number seven. There's six people in front of me.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it. I want to be number five

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01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 2: of them next year. The people behind me, fuck them, right,

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Speaker 2: that's not my problem. I'll kick it up. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: want my ass off to be here. I'm gonna yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: because I know that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, just like if I score sixty on somebody, I

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Speaker 1: know they come in, right, I know they come in

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Speaker 1: when they come up, and be prepared like I was

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Speaker 1: an athlete. I was an athlete, Like, I'm gonna wear

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Speaker 1: it on my shoulder because I know if I don't,

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Speaker 1: somebody gonna wear me on theirs. Yep, you're absolutely right. Humble, No,

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Speaker 1: I worked too hard. I worked too hard to be humbling. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing is now, Gil, is that we're in a

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Speaker 1: different arena of something that we got a late start.

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Speaker 1: See a lot of people that that that's in this space,

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Speaker 1: they've been doing a lot longer than you and I have.

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Speaker 1: And so in football, you know, hey, and it's the

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Speaker 1: one thing that I could do, Hey, I could determine

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Speaker 1: how successful it's gonna be. They they throw me the ball,

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Speaker 1: I catch it, I take off. I'm asking someone else

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Speaker 1: to critique me. Let that sink in now. So I

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Speaker 1: got no saying I didn't vote myself number one. Nobody

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Speaker 1: else on the list voted me number one. There was

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Speaker 1: a panel that says, you know what, we think this guy,

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01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: based on what he's done, should be the number one

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Speaker 1: on the list. And that's boy, that's that's that's that's right.

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01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, and the guys that that's

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Speaker 1: on that list that I have so much risk. Like

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Speaker 1: I congratulate all twenty five people, but there's something special

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Speaker 1: when you have a relationship where you know the guys

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Speaker 1: that's on the list. So being around stephen A for

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01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 1: the last four and a half months, to be around

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01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, like I said, I would bump into Ryan Clark,

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01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: so I kind of knew who he was. But we've

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Speaker 1: gotten a little closer and to see you and having

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Speaker 1: a conversation that you and I've been talking behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: trying to push come up with something together, and it's like, man, man,

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Speaker 1: look at us, man, look at us. Yeah, yeah, that's

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01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: this isn't our first choice. This is as in I

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Speaker 1: chose a profession. Let that see it in you ain't

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Speaker 1: going to school for this, No, we're gonna school for

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Speaker 1: this to be to be an athlete and to just

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Speaker 1: and to change over. You See, I had a professor.

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Speaker 1: A professor once told me, he said, son, those that

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Speaker 1: can do those that can't teach or talk about it.

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Speaker 1: He says, you able to do now I can no

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Speaker 1: longer do I have to talk about it and to

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Speaker 1: be able to talk about it. And because I put

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Speaker 1: so much time, I put so much energy into being

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Speaker 1: great at this like I was football.

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Speaker 2: It's it's everything. It's everything, transferring the transferring.

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Speaker 1: Your work at it over, transfer the energy to something else.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think the athletes are moving faster

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 1: because we have we have the foundation of a work

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Speaker 1: ethic right, and all we do is just have to

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Speaker 1: take it, take the work ethic part, even though we

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01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing, and just put the work

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Speaker 1: ethic and learning the information understanding like why this person

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Speaker 1: is good? Like I watched Yes, I got a TV

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Speaker 1: here here here, here, one right here back then I

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01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 1: got a jumbos trying up there that got four TVs.

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Speaker 1: I have everything going moving at one time, right, I'm

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01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 1: just exorbing information styles like there's no when you when

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Speaker 1: you're when you're launched the nightcap, there's a there's no

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01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: there's no surprise, it's successful this show.

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Speaker 2: You put the time into doing it. People.

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Speaker 1: People successful people are successful for a reason all the time, right,

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01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: because when when they're doing it, they put their.

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Speaker 2: Passion and the love into it. Yes, that's what you

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 2: have to do. And when you love something, you work

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Speaker 2: for it, you work at it. Gil, Someone asked like,

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Speaker 2: what were some of your favorite memories from the All

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Speaker 2: Star Game?

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Speaker 1: They asked me, what was some of my favorite memory

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Speaker 1: from the Pro Bowl? Well, the Pro Bowl is different

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01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: than the All Star Game. There's see, when I went

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, Gil, they actually tackled it was

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Speaker 1: it wasn't this two hand touch stuff that they did

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Speaker 1: away with it. It got so bad that, like you know,

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01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: like tackle football is like tackle football, you really not

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01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 1: need to put somebody on the ground. And so, but

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Speaker 1: it was just the fact of going over there, seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of the people that I had when I

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Speaker 1: was in high school watching seeing the j Rice Is

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01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: being over there and rested, so Reggie White and a

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Speaker 1: lot of the guys, and and and meeting of Dion

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Speaker 1: Sanders and some of the all time great players for

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Speaker 1: the very first time. But to go to the to

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Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl. Me and my brother we made it.

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Speaker 1: We went ninety two. In ninety three, we were both

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Speaker 1: starters in ninety three and uh and that was probably

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Speaker 1: that was probably my fondest making it for the very

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01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: first time in ninety two, but to go in ninety

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Speaker 1: three and he and I were both starters, that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's my crowd that's my crowding achievement for the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you're when you're selected one of the

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Speaker 1: twenty four twelve in the East, right, you'll recognize for

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01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 1: your your your talent. I mean I was, I was excited,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I know there's a video out there,

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Speaker 1: like yo, we get to keep the rope, like you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like you're getting to see all the stars, all

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Speaker 1: the elite in the same building at one time. Right,

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01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: you got the Shaquille, the Iris, and the Kobe's the

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Speaker 1: the YAO means Leab Dwayne. You know, I made my

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Speaker 1: first All Star with Dwayne, Wade, Lebron and Bosh right,

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Speaker 1: and I have a big old painting on it and

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01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: I have everybody's signature on it. Because I never knew

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Speaker 1: if I was gonna make it back again, but this

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a memory that you couldn't take from me, like.

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Speaker 2: Like a little kid. I didn't even have to play

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Speaker 2: in the game.

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Speaker 1: Just my name being called as an All Star was

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Speaker 1: everything because I remember Magic Johnson when you know he

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01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: got diagnosed and that that All Star Game two Orlando

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Speaker 1: that was and Orlando was my favorite tea. That was

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Speaker 1: That was That was my my my biggest memories for

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01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: All Stars, just the whole atmosphere. So being selected to it,

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Speaker 1: it just put me part of that crew.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Brandon, can you do it? In faber?

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01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 1: Can you stop spamming cash app stop begging people for

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01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: money because ain't nobody giving your damn broke ass no money, Brandon?

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01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: Because every time I ask put you in time out,

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01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 1: you pop up in another Brandon. So you ain't getting

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01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: no money. Nobody giving your broke ass any money. So

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Speaker 1: get out of here. Okay, Hey, is that from your

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Speaker 1: chat of mind? I think it's mine. It's from our chat, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's from my chat, Gil, Brandon, Get your broke cass

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Speaker 1: out of here, go get a job.

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Speaker 2: Damn Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Now you gotta change your name to be Wood. You

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01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: should That might be my ex sitting there begging. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's one of your exes. Get I

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01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think she's shooting that bad right now,

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Speaker 1: you don't know my exes, then.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you hit that like button.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you hit that subscribe button for a nightcap.

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Speaker 1: This is a very special basketball edition with Gilbert Arenas.

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Speaker 1: Gil you can tell them to click yours, hit your

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Speaker 1: like button, hit your subscribe button. It's Gil Arenas Arenas right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Gil's arena.

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Speaker 2: If my chat, my check can see me on this side,

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Speaker 2: was having in chat. Thank y'all for showing up. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. You know, hit the light the subscribe.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we get the four hundred and thirty thousand,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving off five thousand tomorrow. So hopefully y'all we

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Speaker 1: don't get this so I can say, my goddamn money.

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Speaker 1: But if y'all get me there, goddamn it, get.

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Speaker 2: It there by let's be cheap. Hey, I love throwing

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Speaker 2: the money. I'm not getting it. Give me the more

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Speaker 2: thirty and then they don't get me there. Cool, I

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Speaker 2: can put it back in my pocket.

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Speaker 1: Now. They they gonna get you there, They gonna get

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Speaker 1: you there. Thank you for tuning the night ladies, and

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Speaker 1: gentlemen for a very special edition of Nightcap. We did

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Speaker 1: a great collab myself and give it a renas. Oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you for joining us. I'm

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Speaker 1: your favorite sports of Shannon Shark. He's your favorite number

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