Speaker 1: Hey, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. And you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people go to like the Pollen
Speaker 1: Count and things to see how bad allergies are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just turned to Ashton over there to see if
Speaker 1: he's sneezing. Yeah, regularly sensitive redheads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I feel like you sneeze your around, but
Speaker 2: it gets a little worse at.
Speaker 3: If his eyes are puffy.
Speaker 4: We know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly seven and eight am on the Dot.
Speaker 1: It's the Ashton Count, And if you suffer from allergies,
Speaker 1: we're really sorry. But yeah, either way, Jeff's got a
Speaker 1: great song for you. I don't know if you realize
Speaker 1: we do parody songs. Jeff writes them every week and
Speaker 1: you can see them live, not live live to tape.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say when the filmed. But you
Speaker 1: can see him on our YouTube, which we love it.
Speaker 1: When you check that out. It's at Brook and Jeffrey
Speaker 1: and we are working on getting some more video for
Speaker 1: second dates. It's a process.
Speaker 3: Soudio stick with.
Speaker 1: I saw that one, but right now we're going to
Speaker 1: do some back to back classic Yeah.
Speaker 3: Have fun when you're on a really good first date
Speaker 3: and the chemistry's on you're feeling the butterflies, but you
Speaker 3: look across the table and notice there's something on your
Speaker 3: date's face that shouldn't be there. H Do you a
Speaker 3: silently lick your finger and rub it off yourself? Oh, oh, no,
Speaker 3: birthmark or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a risk. That's a risk.
Speaker 3: Do you be pull the fire alarm and hope the
Speaker 3: water from the sprinkler washes it away.
Speaker 1: That's a good solution, jeff or so option CE.
Speaker 3: Do what our listener did when he found himself in
Speaker 3: that situation. Oh no, we're gonna find out if Option
Speaker 3: C contributed to him not getting a call back. You'll
Speaker 3: find out what happened in your second date update next.
Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update.
Speaker 3: Brooke, did you know the first time that you met
Speaker 3: your husband, Michael, that's something was special? Not saying that
Speaker 3: you knew like you were going to get married in
Speaker 3: the first fifteen seconds of talking to him, But was
Speaker 3: there anything that happened with you instantly that lets you know, WHOA,
Speaker 3: there's something real, like something actually special going on.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I just felt so good around him, and I was
Speaker 1: so excited about him.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're drunk, so that's probably.
Speaker 1: I mean, I did have like five glasses of wine
Speaker 1: to make an off color Uti joke in.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, yeah, Uti jokes, and he still liked me. Okay,
Speaker 3: Pet explains it. I mean, I remember the first time
Speaker 3: that I met Jose and I noticed his fly was
Speaker 3: down and I thought, ooh special.
Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't tell me x y z though.
Speaker 3: No, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: He asked you to put it down further.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, we don't talk about this all
Speaker 3: the time, about that first ten to fifteen seconds when
Speaker 3: you meet your date and something happens inside you know,
Speaker 3: that's real. Apparently that happened to one of our listeners
Speaker 3: gram recently, at least that's what his email said, and
Speaker 3: we should learn a little bit more about it. Graham,
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 5: Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear about this chance meeting. Maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, without getting overly descriptive, how did your body
Speaker 3: let you know that this was special?
Speaker 5: Well, she didn't ever fly open. I can tell you that,
Speaker 5: Oh dang it.
Speaker 3: So what's her name, by the way, and how did
Speaker 3: you meet her. Her name is Aura, Aura, How did
Speaker 3: you meet her?
Speaker 5: We met on one of those dating apps and we
Speaker 5: decided to meet at a wine bar.
Speaker 1: All right, So going into meeting her at the wine bar,
Speaker 1: were you expecting something special?
Speaker 5: Well, you know how you always have your hopes up.
Speaker 5: But I knew when I walked in that I was
Speaker 5: going to be in so much trouble. Why she immediately
Speaker 5: recognized me and started from a crawl the room, waving
Speaker 5: both of her hands over her head like a total door.
Speaker 3: Just one of those people like me. She's got no shame.
Speaker 1: I love and you loved that right.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. She was just so like effort, was cute,
Speaker 5: well free spirit over there.
Speaker 1: Well, her name's Aura, it comes that's adorable. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it sounds like she was excited to see you.
Speaker 5: It was one of those like initial meetings where in
Speaker 5: the first five seconds I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: this is just like a dream. It was fast.
Speaker 3: That must be a lot to process, right when you're
Speaker 3: first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling where
Speaker 3: often just getting to like a normal date after that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it
Speaker 5: was normal. It was just I mean there was a
Speaker 5: jazz trio playing fun and we were both into jazz music,
Speaker 5: and she was like, oh, let's make up names for
Speaker 5: the guys, and so yeah, Handy Fly guitar playing and
Speaker 5: Dennis the drummer, Yeah, funny, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: We were just cracking each other up the whole time.
Speaker 3: You guys were in your own world right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and they're already making almost inside jokes with each other,
Speaker 1: you know, like just a fun, fun thing.
Speaker 3: Now, anytime any song goes on the radio, you can
Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, this is my favorite drummer, Yeah,
Speaker 3: lington drummers, you know whatever. Well, clearly the vibes are there,
Speaker 3: so keep taking us through how the rest of the
Speaker 3: date goes.
Speaker 5: It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of
Speaker 5: like humor was just so like simpatico, I guess to
Speaker 5: use that word. Like at one point, she had like
Speaker 5: some lipstick on her front teeth. Huh, So I started
Speaker 5: like signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth.
Speaker 1: Good, I'm glad you told.
Speaker 5: Her, yeah, And she just looks at me, she goes,
Speaker 5: what do you having a stroke.
Speaker 3: Just rubbing your tongue on your teeth?
Speaker 6: Exactly?
Speaker 5: I was just laughing so much, and then it was fun.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah it was.
Speaker 5: It went so well, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: This sounds like it.
Speaker 1: Why are you calling us for help? Then? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing, it didn't really end poorly. When
Speaker 5: we said goodbye, she just came up to me and
Speaker 5: gave me like a really long, tight hug.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 3: Some of those are.
Speaker 5: Nice exactly, And she says, we have to definitely do
Speaker 5: this again.
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 1: That seems so sincere.
Speaker 5: I texted her twice, one time to see if she
Speaker 5: wanted to go out for coffee, the second time to
Speaker 5: see if she wanted to go to a trivia night,
Speaker 5: because I think she'd be great at that. Wait, how long.
Speaker 3: Did you wait before you texted her? Was this like
Speaker 3: thirty minutes after the date or was this a couple
Speaker 3: of days?
Speaker 5: I waited two days.
Speaker 1: I think that's good. I'm too long too. I think
Speaker 1: when you have a connection like that with someone that
Speaker 1: you just go with it, You just follow. You got
Speaker 1: to play the game of wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that blew that it took too long?
Speaker 1: Have you read that?
Speaker 3: Boy? You just got to grab your luggage and move
Speaker 3: in with sounds like so connected.
Speaker 1: Have you not heard from her at all?
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing, is like, when I was texting her,
Speaker 5: she did reply, but both times she said that she
Speaker 5: was busy, and the worst part was like she didn't
Speaker 5: offer an alternative time or date or anything like that.
Speaker 5: It was like, no, I'm busy, I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes these free spirits they really suck at
Speaker 1: text out.
Speaker 3: I mean, Alexis, if you wanted to see a guy,
Speaker 3: would you tell him like, I'm just busy, or would
Speaker 3: you offer up a little bit more?
Speaker 7: I would offer something else. I'd probably over offer, Honestly,
Speaker 7: I'd probably mention all the times I'm free.
Speaker 1: Times to apologize for being busy a lot in all caps.
Speaker 3: It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm
Speaker 3: busy and no explanation and no other follow up to
Speaker 3: it exactly. That could feel like that she's trying to
Speaker 3: brush you off. I understand it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's had such a thing happening. It's just hard
Speaker 1: to imagine she wasn't right there with you feeling the
Speaker 1: exact same thing.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her
Speaker 3: pay for the dinner that night. You made her pay.
Speaker 3: I'm just assuming.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I am a popper, gentleman. I pay
Speaker 5: for everything. Okay, I just need I need you guys
Speaker 5: to find out for me. How the hell did I
Speaker 5: blow this?
Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna find for you. How do keep it going?
Speaker 1: Because I've got faith in this one.
Speaker 3: Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could
Speaker 3: be something totally unrelated.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to get her on the phone.
Speaker 3: Let's find out. We're gonna come back call Aura and
Speaker 3: try and get you your second date update coming up
Speaker 3: right after this. Okay, thank you, all right, man, hold on.
Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning second date updates.
Speaker 3: Whenever. I'm stuck on hold with customer service for four
Speaker 3: straight hours, and the automated message keeps replaying over and
Speaker 3: over saying we're busy right now, but don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Your call is very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I believe them, they really really care. Yeah, we're not understaffed.
Speaker 1: Not a break somewhere.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, if you're on the other end
Speaker 3: of a potential relationship with somebody you really like and
Speaker 3: you get too sorry, I'm just busy right now, in
Speaker 3: a rowse. It's hard not to be a little bit
Speaker 3: skeptical and feel like you're being blown off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine
Speaker 1: for a different day to date meet exactly.
Speaker 3: And that's where our listener, Graham is. After a really
Speaker 3: good date at a jazz bar with a girl named Aura.
Speaker 3: He has turned to us because those two busies just
Speaker 3: aren't equaling a second meetup, and.
Speaker 1: They're not equaling the vibe that they had going when
Speaker 1: they were hanging out. It just sounds so I can't
Speaker 1: believe I haven't said it sooner, but negative our points.
Speaker 3: For her, Yeah, Graham, I mean, before we call her here,
Speaker 3: how you feeling I'm.
Speaker 5: Feeling a little nervous, to be honest, but how's your Aura?
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, I'm feeling nervous for you.
Speaker 1: I mean you just sound so excited and I want
Speaker 1: this to happen for you. I think we all do.
Speaker 3: Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this
Speaker 3: out there, but has to be shocking, like whatever the
Speaker 3: excuse is, you're not gonna see like, oh wow, I
Speaker 3: didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.
Speaker 3: We can change that right now. Let let's see if
Speaker 3: something went wrong. I'm gonna dial her number right now.
Speaker 3: Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go, Hello, Hey,
Speaker 3: is this Aura?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: This okay, this is a we're a radio show. We're
Speaker 3: called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning the Show. Thanks
Speaker 3: for being on with us.
Speaker 7: Uh Okay, Hi, I didn't I don't think I signed
Speaker 7: up for anything. I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't know.
Speaker 3: You didn't, but one of our listeners kind of signed
Speaker 3: you up for something called a second Date update. Okay,
Speaker 3: So if you're not familiar with that, it's a segment
Speaker 3: that we do on our show where we try to
Speaker 3: help people who've gone out with somebody one time but
Speaker 3: they're not getting that second meetup and they're not sure why.
Speaker 3: We can call and try to figure out if there's
Speaker 3: a reason for it. Yeah, does that make sense?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I guess.
Speaker 1: We know you're really busy, so we won't keep it.
Speaker 3: That's what we've heard. We're really good at these by
Speaker 3: the way, we'll be efficient. Okay, we'll get through this.
Speaker 3: Because we're calling about a guy that you went out
Speaker 3: with recently named Graham.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm like super confused.
Speaker 1: Like, what is this great? Question.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no, It's the thing is, we spoke to
Speaker 3: Graham about your date, and we're just trying to figure
Speaker 3: out if there's a reason that the two of you
Speaker 3: haven't gone out again because you keep saying to him
Speaker 3: that you're busy.
Speaker 1: But not offering any solutions on wind to meet up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I like it. I already texted him,
Speaker 7: like I said, I was busy during the times he
Speaker 7: wanted to hang out.
Speaker 3: I think in his mind when you say I'm busy,
Speaker 3: that's just like it can be a word that people
Speaker 3: use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting
Speaker 3: to see them, but you don't want to come off
Speaker 3: as being rude.
Speaker 7: Like I meant what I said, I'm just really busy.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but there's no way. I mean, like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we're all really busy, but like when you meet somebody
Speaker 1: that you feel like you have this crazy connection with,
Speaker 1: you'll make time for them.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 7: But I'm not like canceling my plans, Like.
Speaker 3: I know we're not we're not asking you to do that.
Speaker 3: But he just asked us to call because it was
Speaker 3: unclear to him if you actually wanted to meet up.
Speaker 7: But it's what's unclear, I'm saying, okay, but I am busy.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's uncle if you like. I'm honestly still
Speaker 1: unclear whether you actually like him or not.
Speaker 7: I like him, but like I don't understand why, like
Speaker 7: he needs a third party interjecting. That's I said that
Speaker 7: I'm free. I'm just busy during the times he mentioned.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, I hear you, and I don't want to be
Speaker 3: the third party interjecting whatsoever. In fact, it's just like weird. Well, no, listen,
Speaker 3: Graham is actually the one I want you to talk to.
Speaker 3: And it's perfect because he's right here on the other
Speaker 3: line listening, waiting to jump in, hey or what.
Speaker 7: I'm so confused, like what is happening?
Speaker 3: What's like?
Speaker 7: What's the deal with these like jobbers you hired to
Speaker 7: like grow me about us? Job said job jobbers. I
Speaker 7: called you jobbers. It was like, I don't know what
Speaker 7: you guys like we are?
Speaker 3: I okay, talk to her.
Speaker 5: Yeah I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a
Speaker 5: radio show and they, you know, help people get in
Speaker 5: touch if they're having trouble getting together.
Speaker 7: So yeah, but like I told you, I was busy.
Speaker 7: A couple of times, like, don't you think it's a
Speaker 7: little extreme to like go in a radio station and
Speaker 7: who honestly, whoever that guy was I've been talking to,
Speaker 7: like did not seem prepared at all.
Speaker 4: We don't know what I was talking about.
Speaker 7: And he like trying to nail down a gate for
Speaker 7: you about Jeff.
Speaker 1: That's fine sometimes people need to comment. Enemy gonna comelty.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing it. That was
Speaker 3: pretty crap. I give myself a D.
Speaker 1: Or can't you think of this as like a kind
Speaker 1: of a romantic gesture, like he really wants to see
Speaker 1: you and he went to all this effort.
Speaker 7: No, it's super weird.
Speaker 3: You said, you guys have so much chemistry. I feel
Speaker 3: like you're so angry.
Speaker 1: Does this feel like the same person you went out
Speaker 1: with Graham?
Speaker 5: Well maybe not a little bit. But you guys have
Speaker 5: been kind of grilling are pretty hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can take the fall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, that's okay. I mean your intentions
Speaker 5: are great, and that's fine.
Speaker 3: I did have some bad intentions when I dialed Onyond.
Speaker 3: I brought some negative energy into this, and that's what
Speaker 3: I felt negative. That's right.
Speaker 2: You're so guilty and you shouldn't be, Laura.
Speaker 1: Is there is there anything we can do to come
Speaker 1: back from putting you out or making you feel weird?
Speaker 8: Like you keep saying you can stop asking me questions
Speaker 8: and can just ask me out.
Speaker 7: How about that?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: I think that's perfect, that's perfect. I'd love to hang out.
Speaker 5: And how about this weekend? Are you free? Like on Friday?
Speaker 7: I'm busy Friday?
Speaker 5: Okay, keep going, well, we'll have how about Saturday? Then?
Speaker 8: I've got something that day? But like you should, you
Speaker 8: probably need to notice. But I'm in like two other situationships.
Speaker 1: Oh that's.
Speaker 3: Okay, now you.
Speaker 5: Know why she's so busy.
Speaker 1: Oh Graham, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Is that okay with you?
Speaker 6: Graham?
Speaker 5: Or let me ask you? You said you're already in
Speaker 5: two situationships? So really, what does that mean?
Speaker 7: It means a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: Up. Do you even have time for me then? Or what?
Speaker 7: I'm free Sunday afternoon? Like I can squeeze you in.
Speaker 5: I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed
Speaker 5: in between two other dudes.
Speaker 7: And beggars, campy choosers here, like you're the one who
Speaker 7: plays the party. But it's still a party.
Speaker 3: She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're gonna.
Speaker 1: But she's offering you not much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm single, Like I don't have to like.
Speaker 6: Kind of you.
Speaker 1: You're kind of single.
Speaker 3: I think we're all jealous of you are. If anything, so, I.
Speaker 1: Think, Graham, I don't know, Graham, I feel like you
Speaker 1: deserve more than this.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. Look, guys, I think I should
Speaker 5: just go with my gut and say, you only live
Speaker 5: once and let's do it.
Speaker 3: So you're over to a possible third situationship with Aura.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well,
Speaker 5: maybe they'll just turn into a single situationship.
Speaker 3: Okay, really optimistic.
Speaker 8: I mean that's the point of like dating, Like you're
Speaker 8: supposed to try new things and see what sticks.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well great, now we're running out of time here.
Speaker 3: So I'm just curious though, Aura, if he does go
Speaker 3: through with this, does that put him like in the
Speaker 3: third seat like the last place guy, or does he
Speaker 3: need to do a trial run And does he have
Speaker 3: to meet the other guys?
Speaker 5: Why would they.
Speaker 7: Meet the other I don't know how that's so weird?
Speaker 8: No, Okay, if it works out, it works out, and
Speaker 8: if it doesn't, we had fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're
Speaker 3: setting our guy up for success here. So we would
Speaker 3: like to offer to send you guys out on a
Speaker 3: date and we would pay for it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm down, thank you.
Speaker 1: Not the romantic eddie I was looking, but more realistic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, boking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: Oh was that like the yes that we've ever gotten
Speaker 3: to a second date?
Speaker 6: Ever?
Speaker 3: Not where I.
Speaker 1: Wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But at least we got an answer to why she
Speaker 3: was busy.
Speaker 1: And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking into, right, Like,
Speaker 1: there's no mystery here anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it is really clear, because we
Speaker 3: never really asked whether the like situationships know about each
Speaker 3: other or how serious they really were with anything.
Speaker 1: She seems pretty blunt, jeff And she.
Speaker 3: Seems like she enjoys it for sure. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 3: one thing that made her smile during that entire call.
Speaker 1: And get like a weird sexy voice thing.
Speaker 3: How can you not when you're thinking about your harem
Speaker 3: of guys waiting for you? But I just have a
Speaker 3: feeling our boy Graham is going to be happy settling
Speaker 3: for Sunday afternoon hangouts.
Speaker 1: Well, he's Sunday boy.
Speaker 3: Now I might in a four way marriage if it
Speaker 3: goes well enough. So good for you, Graham. Keep us updated.
Speaker 3: But if you want hell up with your dating life,
Speaker 3: you can always email the show. We'll call that person
Speaker 3: who isn't calling you back and go check out all
Speaker 3: of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at
Speaker 3: Brook and.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: What's the perfect setting to have a romantic first kiss?
Speaker 3: Maybe during a candle at dinner, or on a moonlit
Speaker 3: walk down the beach, or under the flickering fluorescent light
Speaker 3: and Stall four of Saint John's truck stuff flickering set
Speaker 3: in the moon. I'm just saying everyone has a different
Speaker 3: idea of what that perfect moment looks like. But for
Speaker 3: one of our listeners, her first kiss happened out in
Speaker 3: broad daylight, probably with children watching, and even though they
Speaker 3: arranged a second meetup, that meetup never happened. It's like
Speaker 3: Stall number four all over again. So we're to do
Speaker 3: everything in our power to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3: In your second Date update right after.
Speaker 2: This, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning second Date updates.
Speaker 3: We've all heard of dating ultimatums where they put it
Speaker 3: all on the line and say, either you put a
Speaker 3: ring on it or I'm gone. Okay, you have to pick.
Speaker 3: Is it me or your mom?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't have You're gonna get dumped
Speaker 1: every time on both of those occasions.
Speaker 3: I feel like, well, if they really love you, they
Speaker 3: choose you. But it is pretty rare to give yourself
Speaker 3: a dating ultimatum, like that's it. If I don't find
Speaker 3: somebody by August, I'm just marrying my weighted blanket and
Speaker 3: calling it a life.
Speaker 1: Well, there could be worse options that way to blanket.
Speaker 3: Really, it really like to hug you the right way.
Speaker 3: But I bring it up because one of our listeners
Speaker 3: says she's on the precipice of giving up on dating
Speaker 3: forever unless we can make this call work.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that is so much on us. Why would
Speaker 1: you do that to us, Jackie?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's completely right.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jaggie, don't come in all cheerful like you weren't
Speaker 1: just doomsday and that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't I'm not cheerful. I'm just letting you
Speaker 4: know that if this doesn't work out, I'm done. I
Speaker 4: am done.
Speaker 1: Aren't very high?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm that desperate. I'm with you guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're all starting off on the same page.
Speaker 3: So yeah, starting at rock bottom can only go up
Speaker 3: from here. Let's begin by learning the name of the
Speaker 3: guy that you met recently.
Speaker 4: The guy's name is Steve. We went on a date
Speaker 4: like last Thursday.
Speaker 1: Thursday, And is there something that stood out about Steve
Speaker 1: or was it just not horrible and that's why you're
Speaker 1: okay with it? Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. So in the last couple of months,
Speaker 4: I've been trying to say yes to anyone that asked
Speaker 4: me out.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, cast a wide net sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm putting myself out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, like everybody tells you.
Speaker 4: To, right, and most of them have been okay. With Steve.
Speaker 4: It was actually a really good date.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I could even see the hope in
Speaker 1: your voice when you say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not super hopeful, just like not the worst thing ever.
Speaker 3: Where was that date?
Speaker 4: It was really fun. We went to a farmer's market
Speaker 4: and we were just walking around like sampling the foods
Speaker 4: and talking, laughing and having fun. For it was an
Speaker 4: hour and a half.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this is good. It's a day date. Nobody's
Speaker 1: like drinking too much. I mean, did you meet there?
Speaker 4: Yes? We met at the farmer's market and then at
Speaker 4: the end he walked me back to my car. And
Speaker 4: you know, normally I don't kiss someone on the first date,
Speaker 4: especially a day date, but the connection was really strong.
Speaker 1: So kiss after a farmer's market date?
Speaker 4: Yes. And then he looked at me in the eyes
Speaker 4: and said, I had a really great time and I
Speaker 4: want to see you again soon.
Speaker 3: You don't, You don't want eye contact when that happens,
Speaker 3: what you want.
Speaker 1: To look away in shame, don't look at me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you want eye contact. Eye contact is so intimate
Speaker 1: and nice.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: You believed him, right, I did.
Speaker 4: And I told him that I had an amazing time
Speaker 4: and I would love to see him again.
Speaker 3: And there it is again. What it's too much?
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything, not too much, he said, I
Speaker 1: want to see you again. She said, I want to
Speaker 1: see you again. That's not too much.
Speaker 3: I can see how maybe you would think that prefer
Speaker 3: a guy saying I really like you. It's the most
Speaker 3: terrifying thing in the world. He said that to me, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're not supposed to say it back to him.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes, Brook, I've done enough of these
Speaker 3: to know how to play the game, and being honest
Speaker 3: and open with how you really feel is the absolute
Speaker 3: worst thing you can see.
Speaker 4: I disagree that was not the problem, because that same
Speaker 4: day he texts me yep, and he said, Sunday, does
Speaker 4: that work? I'll pick you up for dinner and maybe
Speaker 4: he can grab a drink.
Speaker 3: App Okay, I stand corrected, possibly, thank you?
Speaker 1: So what happened Sunday?
Speaker 4: So so I texted back yes, one hundred percent, I'm in,
Speaker 4: and gave him a little high five emoji. And on
Speaker 4: Saturday he texts me and says, Hey, I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to cancel on Sunday. Sorry.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: Did he try to reschedule?
Speaker 4: No, he didn't say anything else, doesn't explain nothing, And
Speaker 4: so I just texted back no problem. Let's figure out
Speaker 4: another time.
Speaker 3: Did he respond to your no no response?
Speaker 1: Steve, Come on, how many days has that been?
Speaker 4: It's been a week now, Okay. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4: So this is the only guy that I've connected with
Speaker 4: and now he's ghosting me. I mean, it's so unbelievably frustrating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds like you're doing this not
Speaker 1: just for Steve, but to make up for every other
Speaker 1: badding that has happened, Like you need this to.
Speaker 4: Go right, And I really just wanted to which I mean,
Speaker 4: like what happened right?
Speaker 3: Well, you said it's been a week. Maybe he's learned
Speaker 3: something about you in between that period of time, Like
Speaker 3: you don't have to answer this, but have you served
Speaker 3: time in prison.
Speaker 1: That could be hot though I.
Speaker 4: Have not.
Speaker 3: Okay, is there anything that's available online to the public
Speaker 3: that somebody could come across and might be like, oh god,
Speaker 3: this is a red flag.
Speaker 4: Seriously, there's nothing that I can think of.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this is definitely a mystery.
Speaker 1: Maybe he just had a bad reaction to the Baba
Speaker 1: ganoosh you guys had the farmer's market wasn't able to recover.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just a hummus stand last weekend.
Speaker 3: So hot, so let's come back. We're gonna definitely got
Speaker 3: kisses from her husband to We're gonna come back and
Speaker 3: call Steve for you here and hopefully get an explanation
Speaker 3: for why he isn't a aging a second date or
Speaker 3: let you give up on dating forever. That's what she wants,
Speaker 3: all right. I'm hopeful push you back from the cliff
Speaker 3: and when we get your second date update right after this,
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 2: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date updates today.
Speaker 3: The entire future of a woman's dating life lies inside
Speaker 3: of our tender throats, because if we don't say the
Speaker 3: right thing and get Steve to agree to another date,
Speaker 3: Jackie has already said she is ready to give up
Speaker 3: on finding love forever.
Speaker 1: Definitely don't need to tell Steve this, but.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that won't happen anyway, because they went to
Speaker 3: a farmer's market hot, you know, walked around, had a
Speaker 3: great eye contact the whole time.
Speaker 1: Soups hot, hot and organic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they laughed, even planned out another date after telling
Speaker 3: each other they both wanted to see each other again.
Speaker 1: You forgot the great first kiss. That was such a
Speaker 1: big deal. That was like the moment, right.
Speaker 3: I thought when I said farmer's market kissing was implied
Speaker 3: because who doesn't. But yeah, it was all going according
Speaker 3: to plan. Until the day before their second date, when
Speaker 3: Steve texted canceling with no explanation and then went dark. So, Brook,
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the situation at hand?
Speaker 1: Good? I just feel like it's not going to be
Speaker 1: good if he's in a different relationship, like if.
Speaker 3: He's cheating or well, hold on, Brook, how can he
Speaker 3: cheat if they've only gone on one date?
Speaker 1: No, not cheating on her, cheating on whoever he's dating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're saying Jackie could be the
Speaker 3: other woman.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's just like a day date, Jackie.
Speaker 3: Are you cool with being the other woman? That we
Speaker 3: didn't say that? Okay?
Speaker 1: It is good to check. All right, Hopefully that's not
Speaker 1: what the situation is that I don't.
Speaker 7: I hope it's just busy at other farmers' markets scoping
Speaker 7: out the best spots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the best Ober jeans or whatever Brook likes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: does he work?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: We've ruled out a couple of possibilities. Let's just call
Speaker 3: him and see if he picks up. I'm dialing his
Speaker 3: number right now here we go. Hello, Hey, is this Steve?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ay man, good morning. You're you're on a radio show
Speaker 3: called Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1: Oh great, we're going to take that without any sarcasm
Speaker 1: attached to it.
Speaker 3: But I like your style already.
Speaker 6: You can tell what's going on.
Speaker 3: Well, what's going on is this is a segment that
Speaker 3: we do called a second date Update. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've ever heard of that before. Nope, Okay, keep going.
Speaker 3: But it's actually kind of a fun thing that we
Speaker 3: do where we help out listeners who are confused after
Speaker 3: they're not getting a call back for a second date.
Speaker 3: We try and help them figure out the reason why. Okay,
Speaker 3: there's a woman that you went out with recently. Actually
Speaker 3: you planned a second date with her but canceled the
Speaker 3: last minute. Her name's Jackie.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: I don't really want to talk about this.
Speaker 3: Sensitive to you.
Speaker 6: I feel bad?
Speaker 1: Did I ask? Are you single?
Speaker 3: Brooks? It with so much hope?
Speaker 6: Here's the deal, here's the deal.
Speaker 3: What's the deal.
Speaker 6: I did have a strong connection with her, but if
Speaker 6: she knew what was going on, it would probably hurt
Speaker 6: her feeling.
Speaker 3: What's trying to protect someone's feelings hurt some more. I
Speaker 3: think they want to be.
Speaker 1: Direct, that's true. I think her feelings already hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she was really looking forward to that second
Speaker 3: hangout and when you canceled with no explanation. Now she's
Speaker 3: just kind of confused. She was excited, doesn't know where
Speaker 3: she stands. We're just trying to give her a little
Speaker 3: bit of information.
Speaker 6: It's just I had a stronger romantic connection with somebody else,
Speaker 6: and I didn't think it would be fair to her.
Speaker 6: Continue my jod.
Speaker 1: That's normal.
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, Okay, everybody's on the call right now. Let's
Speaker 3: try and be respectful and here, Steve out anymore.
Speaker 1: Jackie's on the phone.
Speaker 3: Hold on, you knows me.
Speaker 4: He knows it's me, and I know a cheater when
Speaker 4: I smell one, you smell him.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, I think that's my fault, Jackie,
Speaker 1: hold on, what I feel like I put that idea
Speaker 1: in your head. He didn't say he cheated. He just
Speaker 1: said that he went out with someone else and had
Speaker 1: a stronger connection.
Speaker 4: He didn't Yeah, whatever, he was going to cheat on
Speaker 4: me eventually.
Speaker 3: You're making a lot of assumptions here, Jackie, and I
Speaker 3: know you're definitely hurt by what you heard, but let's
Speaker 3: give Steve a chance to explain himself.
Speaker 6: I spoke my piece. I don't have much else to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you're just to say, oh good, oh god.
Speaker 4: So when we were walking around the farmer's market and
Speaker 4: I didn't want to drink some water fountain because it's
Speaker 4: like public in guoth, he never offered to buy me
Speaker 4: a drink. What about that? Here's that come from fish?
Speaker 4: He's selfish and he'd probably be selfish in bed.
Speaker 1: Whoa jackie? You are all over the place right now.
Speaker 1: I understand your feelings are hurt because this didn't turn
Speaker 1: out how you wanted it to. But this is not
Speaker 1: the reaction that you are gonna want to have.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I've never made that correlation before. Guys not
Speaker 3: being good in bed, that don't buy water for women.
Speaker 4: Well, you know you're also a guy.
Speaker 3: Oh well that's fair, and I am, oh yeah, you're
Speaker 3: going to keep it all to myself, Jeremy. Can you
Speaker 3: confirm that you're a selfish guy? I'm sorry, Steve, can
Speaker 3: you confirm that you're a selfish guy?
Speaker 6: I don't know what's happened.
Speaker 3: I just I just want to know what's your take
Speaker 3: on this whole situation.
Speaker 6: But on a good day, I just had a stronger
Speaker 6: connection with someone else.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're running.
Speaker 4: In my face, in your face, you know what he is?
Speaker 4: He's running in my face over me?
Speaker 3: Oh went with You don't know?
Speaker 1: She was probably a lovely person.
Speaker 4: You guys, what are you doing? You're like spinning this
Speaker 4: to make him the victims.
Speaker 3: Vicim of circumstances.
Speaker 1: It's just how dating works, yea. Sometimes you meet somebody
Speaker 1: you liked more.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's in a like a committed relationship
Speaker 3: with this other person. It sounds like just a casual date, right, Steve.
Speaker 6: I really don't think I should say anymore.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what, really sad? I really wanted to
Speaker 4: see your basement. I never got to see your basement.
Speaker 1: Basement? Actually I would offer a tour in the basement.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't say yes? I was kind of thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: I wonder what's in his basement?
Speaker 4: How about?
Speaker 3: What is he talking about?
Speaker 6: I have a movie room in my basement and we
Speaker 6: talked about that.
Speaker 1: Really, she had a lot of hopes based around that
Speaker 1: movie room. Oh god, don't little popcorn maker. And I
Speaker 1: was all on Steve's side until he just poured salt
Speaker 1: in the wound, all over that bopcord making.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: Sorry, it's a dope basement and yes I have multiple
Speaker 6: flavored salts.
Speaker 3: Wow, it kind of cool.
Speaker 4: You need to go you show now, all right?
Speaker 5: Hang up?
Speaker 1: Okay, I think maybe you just need to work on
Speaker 1: yourself right now, Jackie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I'm deleting your text,
Speaker 4: I'm blocking your number. You're never going to hear from
Speaker 4: me again. I want you to know you lost out
Speaker 4: on something really.
Speaker 3: Good, really good, really stables type of relationship. So Steve,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, dude.
Speaker 6: It's fine. I feel like I dodged a bullet. It's
Speaker 6: like I'm watching the matrix and.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear from him.
Speaker 3: Okay, see you you're gone. We dropped Steve. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: okay Jackie, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, you guys. Honestly, it's fine.
Speaker 4: I know men. After that, he is definitely going to
Speaker 4: reach out to me like a little crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's actually kind.
Speaker 1: You A little is a different definition.
Speaker 3: Are you saying you put all of that on just
Speaker 3: to like get him to call you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I used it up a little bit, but
Speaker 4: I'm legitimately pissed.
Speaker 3: That was a little bit.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine blown.
Speaker 3: All right, well, Jackie, after you take your hiatus from
Speaker 3: the dating world, call us and we can reach out
Speaker 3: to that next guy for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I'm any it from Steve.
Speaker 3: You heard about that basement, right, It is pretty dope. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't blame you.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to block him, and then he's gonna
Speaker 4: call me, and you guys will end up doing an
Speaker 4: update update on me.
Speaker 1: Your healthy relationship direction.
Speaker 3: This is going to go Jeffrey in the morning, Was
Speaker 3: it me or did it feel like she definitely had
Speaker 3: a plane of attack there?
Speaker 1: What happened? Man? She said, she like what shausted up,
Speaker 1: juiced it up? She did?
Speaker 3: It was purpose.
Speaker 1: It was an emotional roller coaster. I'm exhausted.
Speaker 3: The second he mentioned a stronger connection with another woman,
Speaker 3: she completely went off the handle. Yeah, but wouldn't it
Speaker 3: be something though, if after all of this she was right.
Speaker 1: That he did call her back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, Steve thinks about it, and he's like, you
Speaker 3: know what, she's kind of unhinged, but I kind of.
Speaker 1: Like it every level. Only way Steve's calling her back
Speaker 1: is if it doesn't work out with the other girl. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: then I could see it. Maybe happening.
Speaker 2: It's sure.
Speaker 3: It's probably a less than one percent chance that it
Speaker 3: all goes the way that she's thinking.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be a wild update up?
Speaker 3: There would be? Yeah, And I really appreciate her optimism
Speaker 3: and all of your optimism in your dating lives. If
Speaker 3: you want our help, we are ready to step in
Speaker 3: and call that person who isn't calling you back. By
Speaker 3: the way, go check out all of our second date updates.
Speaker 3: They're up online wherever you get your podcasts at Brook
Speaker 3: and Jeffrey