WEBVTT - How Medical Marijuana Works 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.320 It's ready. Are you welcome to you Stuff you Should 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:16.160 Know from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.720 to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. This is Charles W. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.640 Chuck Bryant, who is seated across from me. Hello, and uh, 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.319 you put the two of us together, you get a 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.680 podcast called Stuff you Should Know? Like it or not exactly? Um, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:36.280 how are you doing? I'm well, I'm glad. Uh, Chuck, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.240 We're going to talk today about why don't think is 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:45.600 a pretty important issue. Uh, medical marijuana. We've spoken for 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:56.240 about the potential health benefits a plenty of other drugs, ecstasy, LSD, psilocybin, mushrooms. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.400 I feel like it's high time. Did you do that 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.560 on purpose? Sadly not interesting that we did medical marijuana. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.200 This article had a couple of those little puns that 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.600 I thought were one strain of research man that silverman 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.120 thought he was so funny for getting that in there 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.080 and just like freaking the man out. So where do 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.560 we start? Do you have an intro? No? I don't 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.880 have an intro. I feel like this, uh, this subject 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:30.919 itself needs no intro. It's using pot marijuana for medicinal purposes, 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:36.119 and apparently there is a pretty extensive body of research 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.119 showing that it does in fact help, that seven hundred 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:45.440 and thirty thousand UH people who have grave diseases and 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.440 illnesses aren't really just faking so they can smoke pot, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.600 that the stuff is helping. UM. There's a lot of 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.600 diseases that Jacob Silverman lists that this UM that medical 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.960 marijuana has been shown to howl with. Do you know 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.280 what they are? You recite them in alphabetical order. Well, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.080 I have two lists UM. The list in the article 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:17.359 says nausea, especially chemotherapy, nausea, loss of appetite, chronic pain, anxiety, arthritis, cancer, AIDS, glaucoma, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:23.600 MS or multiple sclerosis, insomnia, A d H D epilepsy, inflammation, migraines, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:28.840 Crohn's disease, and if you're terminally ill, to improve your 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.880 quality of life. This is a list on the sign 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:38.760 outside of the Cush Doctor at Venice Beach, California. And 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.920 there's a lot more things on this list. Do you 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:49.440 suffer from? UM? They also include in here sickle cell anemia, UM, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:56.120 psychiatric disorders basically anything autoimmune, sleep, disorders, and it says, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:04.120 I think either sleeplessness or too sleepy? Does it say that? Yeah? Um? 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.320 Any any well? At list about twenty more things, and 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.040 then at the bottom it says, or any chronic or 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.680 persistent medical symptom. Write anything fingernail hurt right now. So 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.040 that's what the cush doctor will And that is an 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.040 actual I'm not just making that up at Venice speech. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:25.320 I saw the picture. It says, cush doctor, and um, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.959 you can go in there with your little card and 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.160 get you some pot. So what you've just gotten at 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.040 is the heart of this problem. Like there is plenty 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:39.080 of legitimate, bona fide medical research that shows that marijuana 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.840 does help ease symptoms. It does a special double weighamy 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.480 on people who are nauseated and don't have any appetite, 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:51.360 which is a terrible symptom of several diseases, cancer AIDS. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.240 So you have this part of the medical establishment saying yes, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:01.600 pot helps, and then you have the drug warriors, the 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:06.000 d e A, lots of US district attorneys, plenty of 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:14.080 the square Americans, um saying now it's a drug, and um, 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.599 there's gonna be plenty of guys like the cush doctor 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.240 who are just gonna sell it to anybody they can 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.480 and use any medical marijuana laws that you enact as 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.680 a shield to operate criminally from behind, like don't don't 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:34.120 take that drug. So um. For a long time, the 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.400 medical marijuana idea has been taken up by states. It's 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.520 been a state's rights issue also, um. But the federal 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.839 government apparently was the first ones to ever legalize um 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.200 or sell or supply legal medical marijuana from a program 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.679 that ran from nineteen seventy. UM. It kind of petered 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.800 out in the states, starting with California really took up 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.279 the cause. Yeah, for a while, they did not sit 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.400 very well, especially during the Bush years. That did not 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.640 sit well with the federal government, and the Feds used 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:15.680 to routinely raid uh legitimate uh medical pot dispensaries that 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.559 were operating within the letter of state law because federal 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.000 law supersede state law. So the d A can read 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.960 you anytime they want, because according to the federal government, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.520 pots still a drug. It doesn't matter what your state says, 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:31.200 right right. UM. With Obama, he came into office saying, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.320 you know what, I'm not going to waste the resources 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.480 of the d O j on cracking down on legal 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:43.520 pot operations. Yeah, that was in two thousand nine, um 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.440 and memo. Yeah, and things really launched after that, like 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.920 more states pass legislation and more dispensaries like in l A. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.640 At the time, after that passed, they say there could 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.679 have been up to a thousand dispensaries in l A proper, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.120 but then they and said no, it was more like six. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.800 But what happened recently, well, UM, the the head of 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:14.440 the d A, UM, a woman named Michelle Leonhardt was 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:20.680 She was appointed by Bush and Obama reappointed her and 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:26.080 shortly after her reappointment, she rewrote the d a's position 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.440 on medical marijuana, saying like no, it's a drug and 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:34.279 we're gonna go after it. And her, let's see leon 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:40.360 Hart with the help of the district attorney no USA 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.080 U S attorney UM by less name of Hague. I 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.400 can't remember first name, Melissa Hague maybe she Um. She 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:53.520 started basically prosecuting we're sending sending the d e A 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:58.280 to medical dispensaries, and everything just totally changed, like it 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.040 just went backwards by years when it looked like it 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.800 was all about to change. Yeah, and um, the media 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.800 and especially the liberal media have held Obama's feet to 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.560 the fire, and they're like, dude, what is up with 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:16.120 this reversal? And um, isn't this probably just election year 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.720 campaign strategy And they're like, no, it's not a reversal. Really, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.240 it's sort of the same as it always was. Really 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.800 but not really No, And apparently with so this is um. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.560 Chuck and I both thread a really good article called 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:35.680 um Obama's Warm Pot in Rolling Stone. It's very thorough. Um. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.840 But the the there there has basically been a step 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.800 up in the way that medical marijuana and the people 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.880 who use it and prescribe it are being treated by 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.600 the federal government. Um. With there there's been a hundred 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.840 raids so far, at least a hundred rates carried out 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.920 under Obama's watch. So if it keeps if it keeps 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.560 up with this pace, then um, he will be worse 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:06.320 than Bush as far as medical marijuana raids. Uh. And 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.240 this one guy, Rob Campia, who was executive director of 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.880 the Marijuana Policy Project, said that Obama is the worst 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.680 president on medical marijuana. Crazy. It is just totally crazy 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.880 because that's not what he said during the campaign. And Uh, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.320 the I don't know, no what need astorney. I'm one 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.720 of the residents of Colorado that was campaigning hard to 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.440 you know, to keep this going against Obama even though 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.720 he voted for him, said he needs to watch it 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.800 because quote, medical marijuana is twice as popular as he is. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.360 So he says he's already lost that vote no matter 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:47.920 what happens. So we'll see how this shakes down, all right. So, uh, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.640 California has been studying this since about two thousand. In 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:56.320 earnest um, they were given about nine million bucks to 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.160 do genuine medical research on the effectiveness of marijuana for 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:07.240 different usually pain causing and nausea causing diseases. And um. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.640 It's always been hard to do these studies though, because 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.360 the federal government, if they're gonna give you money, they're 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.120 gonna regulate like where the pot comes from. And this 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.120 at the time was that you see San Diego. They 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.240 would only let them get it from one place, one source, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.280 and then they would visit them. Federal agents would in 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.200 uh the Medical Cannabis Research Center to verify that it 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.079 was kept in a vault that was bolted to the floor, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.920 so they would, you know, they want to come by 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.160 and make sure they were all sitting around smoking joints 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.760 and like playing ping pong. You guess which I mean. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.280 I guess if you are kind of hung up on 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.400 testing with medical marijuana, that's cool. That's your right to 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.320 drop by and make sure that everything is here and 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.480 it's not being Yeah, I'm not liking that. Um. The 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.040 federal government started, like like the the head of the 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.720 Bureau of Alcohol to back on firearms. Then a lighter 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.680 to firearms dealers saying it's um, it's illegal to sell 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.800 afire are armed to a person addicted to marijuana. So 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:07.520 if you are, if you are receiving medical cannabis, you 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.920 just had your Second Amendment right strip from your banks 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.600 are worried about getting prosecuted for money laundering by dealing 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.840 with dispensaries medical marijuana dispensaries. So now it's starting to 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.480 go to a cash only I eat, more dangerous business 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.160 for prone to robberies and tax evasion. It's just like 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.520 definitely going backwards, huge huge steps backwards. It's crazy, and 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:34.079 by backwards, I should say, if you're pro medical marijuana, sure, 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:39.400 let's talk about why um pot might help. Okay, th 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:44.680 HC is in um it's a cannaba cannabinoid in marijuana, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.480 and that's what makes you feel high, and it's also 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.400 where you find your medicinal properties. They're all locked in 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.120 there together because we produce our own cannabinoids in the 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:59.640 form of indo cannabinoids naturally. Yes, so we have endocannabinoid receptors, right, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.760 an abinoid, Yeah, cannabinoid. I like the way you said, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.560 it's kind of pleasing phenomena UM in our body. And 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.920 when they are when they receive something, when something is 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.839 recepted to them, uh, they release things like pain relievers, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.480 reduced anxiety. It has a whole just a whole lot 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.280 of effects on us mood, memory, appetite. Well, it has 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.920 a negative impact on memory. I think, well, it's it's 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:31.040 just to regulates these responses whether or not there makes 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:35.320 you sleepy or hungry or not. So with some with 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:40.840 some diseases, UM, this combination of UM introducing THHC to 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:45.000 the ENDO can now I can't say it correctly. Endocannabinoid 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:51.120 receptor UM results in increased appetite, results in UM lesson 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.040 muscle spasms. If you have multiple sclerosis, UM or if 0:11:55.040 --> 0:12:00.720 you're quadriplegic, UM results in just a greater outlook a 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.520 sense of well being if you're dying. All these things 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.800 that have been studied and document it is actually working. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.480 I got one for you. Uh. They did a study 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:15.800 in mice that showed that the cannabinoids may protect against 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.560 development of certain types of tumors, both benign and cancerous. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.280 And not only that, listen to this. It appears to 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.760 kill only the tumor cells and may even protect the 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.280 healthy cells from cell death. That is some pot That's 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.840 pretty rad. That's all I'm saying. So on the other hand, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.280 you've got people saying, Okay, all right, I'm going to 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:41.040 take the medical establishment at face value, and um say, yes, 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:46.800 THHD hit your endocannabinoid receptors and produces it alleviates a 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.800 lot of symptoms of certain diseases. Can we just not 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.240 come up with something that doesn't get you high? And uh, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.080 some drug companies have been like, yes we can, and 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.840 they introduced um shiny black pills called marian All, which 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:04.240 is synthetic THHC. Josh, I have had a Marino pill? 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:09.880 Really did it? Did it alleviate your symptoms? Uh? It 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.120 was a very mild thing, to be honest. And this 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:14.920 was this was many years ago when I was living 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.840 in Los Angeles. But um, yes, I've had a marinal pill, 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.800 and it's did you get it from Dr Couch? Now 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.319 I didn't. But it is funny how you just pointed 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.240 out because that kind of debated off air. I was like, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.959 should I say that I've had a marinal pill. We're like, well, yeah, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.800 it's an FDA proved drug, Like you can say that, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.520 but you can't say, yeah, I smoked pot and not 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.679 get you know, the cross side stairs. Sure, it's just interesting, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.480 Yeah it is. That's I guess that's at the heart 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:44.960 of all this. It's kind of like this this drug, 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.920 the synthetic drug, yeah, uh, that you can get through 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.640 a prescription right and go to your pharmacy and they'll 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.640 give it to you. Um, you can have that, but 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:00.480 this this drug gros in the ground, right, Yeah, that 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.880 actually works better than this other drug, the synthetic version 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:08.600 of it, supposedly. That's the big um complaint against marian 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.000 all is that it's like it's a synthetic teaching, but 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.640 it's lacking some really important parts. Yeah, well, and it 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.720 absolutely is lacking. I mean chemically it's it's lacking. But um, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.400 but you can't have that and I'm really reminded of this, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.400 Like this is where like witches and doctors came from 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:29.080 from the struggle of like the I guess some Middle Ages, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.160 so where science was really starting to kind of come 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:41.200 about and um, to basically maintain a foothold or create 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.680 a foothold for itself over Western society, it had to 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:49.080 get rid of its rivals, which were um traditional healers 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.400 who very quickly became witches and outcasts and were ostracized 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.880 as backward and possibly even evil. So don't go to them, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.840 come to me, because I'm the guy with the beat on. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.120 We can protect you from the plague. Look at you, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.760 Arthur Miller. But isn't that Isn't that kind of analogous? Yeah? 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.160 I think so. Um. There's also, uh, that's very astute, Josh, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.080 thank you. Um. There's also a tv X which is 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:22.160 um a pain reliever, and it is actually an extract 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.640 of real marijuana administered by spray and I think they 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.080 have that's in England, Spain, and Canada, and it's in 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.440 trials here in the US. Yeah, so that's not synthetic, 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.560 that's actually an extract. Yeah. I'll bet everybody who uses 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.720 it goes oh, I can't. I don't feel any pain, 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.960 but you might as well just use this. Uh what's 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:46.320 the stuff you spray when you have tonsillitis? Oh? Yeah, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.400 might as well just use superl That's not the one 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:53.400 I was thinking of, though, is the uh so, Like 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.600 you said, most experts agree that mare and all um 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.880 and it's at vax actually in clinical riles show to 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:06.040 have less of an effect than actual the marijuana plant itself. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.360 But the d e A points out t S this 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.920 is what this is legal that and they make a 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.040 pretty good point here that um may and all is 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.600 the THHC what morphine is to opium. Like, yeah, you 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.280 might need morphine. We're not gonna tell you it's okay 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.440 to go smoke opium for your pain. There's morphine. Go 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.080 use the morphine. It's legal, it's regulated, it's taxed, and 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.280 it's not gonna get you landed in jail unless you 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.800 get your hands on it illegally. So the Feds are 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.400 the ones who are definitely blocking this right now. UM 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.360 this I should say in in a lot of states, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:47.480 there's eighteen states, including d C that have UM laws 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.880 on the books that say, yeah, man, you you we've 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.200 got legalized medical marijuana to some degree. Yeah, and Oregon 0:16:55.360 --> 0:17:01.520 is the king Daddy of medical marijuana. California was Yeah, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.960 I mean there's probably more dispensaries and things like that. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.800 But in Oregon you are allowed to possess up to 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:12.000 twenty four ounces of you what they call usable marijuana, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.679 or twenty four plants um, six of which can be mature, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.240 eighteen of which can be immature, which means they're like flowering, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:26.880 budding plants. They were Jeane jackets. So Washington's right behind them. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.280 You can possess twenty four ounces or fifteen plants, and 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:35.480 uh not surprisingly, there are no states in the Southeast, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.720 and Michigan is the only state in the Midwest. Uh 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.920 So yeah, in these in these Bible Belt areas, you're 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.520 not finding any pro marijuana medical marijuana states going on 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:53.480 and insert your own Detroit joke here. Uh we should. Yeah, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.040 we don't have to read through just all those other 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.359 hippie states plus Iowa in New Jersey. Yeah, that's so 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:04.720 surprised thing have them Maryland. The thing is, though, is 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.320 a lot of these, like you said, a lot of 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.720 them rushed to um get laws on the books. Delaware. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.040 I think Delaware just wanted to be like he remember us, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.360 we're really a state. UM, but a lot of them 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.160 have backed off, like Rhode Islands UM Governor Lincoln Chaffee 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.680 is a vocal supporter of medical marijuana and a big 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.960 critic of the federal government for using like goon squad 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:39.800 tactics to like fight it and basically over rule state law. UM. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.520 But even he's back down because federal prosecutors have been like, hey, 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.199 don't make us come after your your state employees who 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.240 are running these these dispensaries, because we'll put him in 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.720 jail and they can do it. Thirty four states, Josh, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:58.280 have UM laws passed that recognized marijuana as having medical value, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.879 and I think New Mexico was the first one actually 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:07.680 in the oh yeah, yeah, even before California and UM. However, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.239 you know, you know how these laws go. It's like 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.640 the gay marriage laws. It's like it's legal and then 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.120 it's repealed, and then it's legal, and then it's repealed 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:17.920 and you can do it here, and now you can't. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.080 So there's been a lot of back and forth over 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.119 the years with the states. UH, sort of on a 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:29.919 roller coaster that duke in it out with the federal government. Interesting. So, um, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.800 let's talk about California. Let's take California as a state. Yeah, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.879 I love that place. I love California. So California is 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:41.480 I think they were the first state with legal medical marijuana, right, 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.280 I think so. I think it's properly to fifteen. Uh. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.400 And they said, hey, if you have a doctor's recommendation, 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.800 because we should point out there's no doctor that can 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:56.680 legally prescribe marijuana, because exactly if you walk into your 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.720 local drug store, they'll be like, get out of here. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.639 We got marrin all. You want some of that, but 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.720 we don't have any pot. Um. So a doctor can 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.400 recommend it in a state where you have legal medical marijuana, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:14.760 that it can say, I doctor feel good, UH, say 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:19.000 that Chuck Bryant uh suffers from glaucoma and to relieve 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.840 the interocular eye pressure associated with his condition, I recommend 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.840 that he um use medicinal marijuana. And then that's that 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:35.639 signed Dr Kush right, and you, being a medical pot recipient, 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.360 would keep that letter on you at all times, depending 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.720 on if you were in California, which also passed the 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.359 supplemental um law, saying you know what this is, you 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.760 can lose your doctor's note or whatever. So let's just 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:53.239 issue I D cards to people who have a doctor's recommendation. Uh, 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.280 if you have an ID card or doctor's recommendation, you 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:02.359 can grow and you can um buy pot and possess yeah, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.840 and ostensibly use it. You know what Senate bill that was, yes, 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:11.080 I do. Can you believe it? I could not believe it. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.639 Two thousand three. Um, they passed Senate Bill four twenty 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:19.240 in California which um stipulated the cards and um that 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:23.520 you could have eight ounces of usable marijuana, six mature plants, 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:28.560 or twelve imager plants. Senate bill. That's crazy is that 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:33.520 the two thous three bill? Okay? Um, apparently even more 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.960 than that. The state said, by the way, uh, let's 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.640 take this down to the county level. You counties, if 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.280 you feel like you want to expand upon this, go ahead. 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.960 So some counties have been like sure, Like the Humboldt 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.240 is one that definitely expanded the amounts that you can 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.720 have in the situations in which it's not. Okay, boy, 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:59.840 I had some Humboldt fog two days ago. What cheeze, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:04.760 it's cheese. But it sounds like marijuana doesn't it does. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.680 And now that you mentioned that, I think I've had 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.400 that before too. Is really like yummy blue cheese. Um. 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.399 And we got some of the store down the street. 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.359 But I laughed, Emily, I was like, it always cracks 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.040 me up because some both Fox sounds like one of 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.200 those marijuana streams. It definitely does. Yeah, you got me 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:24.760 with that one. You're like, you can't say that, chuck. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:29.840 Uh so if you so. California also has um what's 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:34.120 called a caregiver law. Yeah. A caregiver is somebody who 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.520 basically takes care of you if you're sick, right. Uh. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:42.080 In California, a caregiver can also refer to a person 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:49.960 who supplies medical marijuana to people who have docutors recommendations. Right. Um, 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.240 It's like your grandmother has glaucoma, she didn't know where 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.800 to score, right, So you could be her caregiver and 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.560 get this for her, or you can be the guy 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.440 who's growing it for her. Right. Did you ever see 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.920 the Curb your Enthusiasm where Larry got pot for his dad. 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.400 He got medical marijuanta for his dad because he had 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.720 I think it was glaucoma, And he smoked with him 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.200 and showed him how to do it and everything, and 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.000 like went in the bathroom and freaked out. It was 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.679 pretty funny. Yeah, and the whole buying process. So it 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.920 was the guy from Lost. Hurley from Lost was the 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:28.359 pot dealer. It was really really funny. It was good. 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.320 Oh yeah, did you ever see the Mr. Show sketch 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:37.840 about medical marijuana. The pharmacist who has the brownies? Yeah, yeah, 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.359 and he always wants to play like the music he 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:44.880 recorded on his four track Yeah for everybody. Well, it's 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:46.800 it's funny. You mentioned that though, because at some of 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:50.280 these dispensaries, um, you can buy things like brownies and 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:54.080 butter and cookies and smoothies and yeah, because not everybody 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:58.679 wants to smoke pot. Who has a medical cannabis exactly? Okay, 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.040 so you have a recommended and you have a caregiver 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.719 that you go to, and the caregiver, um, so this 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:07.359 is where it gets really cloudy. They the Feds don't 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:13.119 go after patients, even during the Bush years um and 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.320 now which is worse than the Bush years. Um. They 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.960 they have never gone after patients. It's basically, don't go 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:25.000 after patients. Caregivers used to be protected, but because caregiver 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:29.159 is also basically synonymous for pot dealer in medical marijuana 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.280 states that that's no longer you're if you are one 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.480 of those caregivers who's really like spending your You live 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.920 with your elderly grandmother and you're taking care of her, 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.359 and she has medical marijuana that she takes and you 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.520 go get it for you're in jeopardy now too, because 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.680 a lot of these operations have gotten very, very big, 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.919 and though they may be bona fide and legitimate, they 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.800 may not be making any profit, which is part of 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.040 the law. Um, they are considered caregivers rather than like 0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.000 dispensaries or anything like that. So that's what's clouded the issue. 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.720 You that's where a lot of the protections for regular 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.800 people who are caregivers are being stripped away. It got 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.800 out of hand and it was people like Dr Cush 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.400 sprung up and all of a sudden there were dispensaries 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:17.359 that weren't co ops where you have actually members growing 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.160 the weed for the co op. That's just say weed 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:27.720 stead of marijuana, medical weed, medical weed. Um. They supposedly 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.520 a lot of them were buying it illegally, making profit 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.600 off of it and kind of screwed it up. For 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.200 the legitimate ones. It is a cloudy issue. That's where 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.680 we're at right now. Basically, it sounds like some there 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:46.000 were either um, some groups who just want pro or 0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.800 decriminalization of marijuana altogether, who were using this issue to 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:54.120 just force it through, hammer it through, or probably more realistically, 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.199 there were just a bunch of hoot dealers who found 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:02.640 like a lot a very easy cuss immers by supplying 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:07.880 these co ops. Americans, by and large, if you believe poles, 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.440 are in favor of medical marijuana for people who really 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.760 need it. Um CBS News did a poll last year 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.240 UM seventy seven percent of Americans thought doctors should be 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.240