1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: And welcome back to Hannity. This is Jordan's secular for 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the ACL JAMP and co hosting Sean's show with my dad, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: Jay Secular, our chief counsel with the American Steer for 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Law and Justice. We're about to be joined by Congressman 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, but we have breaking news to announce right now, 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: add Hannity. President Zealinsky of Ukraine will be in Washington tomorrow. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean he's traveling right now to meet with Congress 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: and we know now President Biden just now breaking and 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: we've got cargress from Jim Jordan, who's joining us right now. Yeah, Congressman, 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: this is Jay. I wanted to ask you if I 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: don't know how much advanced notice you all had on this, 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: but what what you read on the situation with President 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Zealinski arriving in the United States. No, we just found 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: out about it a couple of minutes ago as well, 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: so you know, I'll be there. Look, there's a there's 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of money in this crazy omnibus bill for Ukraine. 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: I think I think what I saw forty some billion dollars. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's any connection to that 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: or not. You know who knows. What I do know 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: is I'm I'm tired of sen an all American tax 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: dollars to Ukraine. We we understand and we support Ukraine, 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and and we understand that Presidents Lynsky is one brave 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: leader and that Putin is the aggressor here. But but 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: come on, Europe needs to step up and pay for this, 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: not the American taxpayer, particularly when we got the debt 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: burden we have and in the interest payments that we've 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: now seen in the first two months of this discal year. 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: You're right, so anyway, well, we'll see. But all I know, 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I know as much as you do right now. Yeah, 30 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting you said the thing about 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the Europeans because we have an offsite in Strasbourg, France. 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: We have a European Center for Law and Justice and 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the ECLJ has been looking at the issues. And the 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: question that arises is why is not Europe stepping up. 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: They're the ones that are going to have the heating 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: oil shortage, They're the one with the grain shortage that's 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna because of what's happening in Ukraine. And again the 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: United States having to lead all the way with barely 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: participation by I mean, it's not that it's interesting giving it, 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: but it's nowhere near the percentage that the US is giving. 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: But we want to get right to some other news. 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: At your former colleague, Devin Uniez, who headed up the 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee, finds out and we've not found out, that 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: staffers that while the Department of Justice and we know this, 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: had had spied on the former president's campaign. And when 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: you all in Congress began to exposing what they were doing, 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: then DJ under Robert Mueller, during the Special Council Probe, 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: decides that they would spy on you all, or at 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: least your staffs and the staffs on the Intelligence Committee, 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: because you know you were about to find out what 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: they were up to. What you're reacting, Devin is noted, 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: obviously concerned, as is his staff. But I think this 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: if it's a horrible violation of separation of powers. But 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: your reaction to this, well it shouldn't surprise this in 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: mind of what we've learned about was the d O Jane, 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: how politically they had become. Devon was on TV last 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: a great job, but he talked about they were spine on. 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: He thinks his lawyers and some of his staffers. Correct, 59 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: they're on the Intel Committee, looking at their emails, looking 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: at their phone records. Is my understanding, Rod Rosenstein had 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: to approve this, I assume. Um. And and remember the 62 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: timing here, guys, this Jay this was when remember Devon 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: released a memo. It didn't get released until January of eighteen, 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: but he was working on that memo. And so my 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: understanding is when this spying took place is when they 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: realized he was putting together this memo that was going 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to expose what they did it to fight the court, 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: what they did with the Doskier, what they did on 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: spying on President Trump's campaign, and that's when they went 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: in and spied on his death. So the Tony thing 71 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: I think is hugely significant. Um So, this this just 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: adds more more reason why we have to investigate the 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: DOJ or why we have to find every find out, 74 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: every fact, every tooth can get it to the American people, 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: because they've become so political and they're operating in a 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: political fashion. And you coupled this with what we learned 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: from the Twitter files, what we already knew about the 78 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: fourteen whistleblowers should come talk to us from these from 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the FBI, it just underscores how bad that place is 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and why they need investigated. Harrison Jordany said for the 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: break before this that we were just so excited that 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the House went Republican. One of those reasons it is 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: to get you re empowered as a committee chair to 84 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: investigate this this kind of information. And we look at this, 85 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the subpoenas that we're obtained by Just the News, seans 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: friends over there and our friends at Just the News 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: show that the dj went to Google it said turn 88 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: turn over personal email, personal phone data from senior staffers. 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: And is this again it should send a shockwave through 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: the American people that we're seeing again and yet another 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: example of the tech industry working in line with like 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: they are a subsidiary of our law, federal law enforcement. Yeah, 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: they ran an information operation. If you look back in 94 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and focus on just a Hunter Biden story, 95 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: they ran a misinformation operation on we the people. You 96 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: remember those fifty nine former Intel officials. Fifty one former 97 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Intel officials sent that letter saying, oh, this the Hunter 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: by the story has all the earmarks classic ear marks 99 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: of a Russian information operation. Well, the truth is they 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: big tech, big government, big media ran in information operation, 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: misinformation operation on the American people, on we the people, 102 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: on the citizens, literally days before, weeks before the most 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: important election we have election for president the United States. 104 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: That is what is so frightening, what is so egregious, 105 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: what is so such a violation of the First Amendment, 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: again underscoring why we have to do everything we can 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: to get the truth to the country, because you can't 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: stop this stuff if you first don't fully expose it. 109 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: And that's what we're committed to doing. You know, the 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: only reason, Congressman, that we know this happened was that 111 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Google had a policy that when they had a request 112 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: or subpoena for documents of a customer in this case, 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: the two staffers with the Congressman then Congressman Nunez, that 114 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: they wait five years. So this was in twenty seventeen 115 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: before they let the customer know. Hey, by the way, 116 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: I mean, did you imagine this, By the way, five 117 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: years ago, your documents were requested by the United States 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Department of Justice and the criminal probe by Special Counsel 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: Robert Muller. I mean, it's it's mind boggling, but that's 120 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the way it's set up, but with the timing. And 121 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: believe me, and you know this. I know the timing 122 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: because I lived it in Jordan and I worked that 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: case from beginning to end. The fact of the matter 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: is the thing that I'm concerned about is the Department 125 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: of Justice thinking they can react to oversight by going 126 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: after members of Congress or their staffs, I mean, especially 127 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: a lawyer an investigator, and thinking they could have basically 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: a free for all and do what they want. As 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: if you remember Rod Rosenstein and a meeting shortly as 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: this was going on, made the statement that he was 131 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: going to if this happens, if Congress continue this investigation, 132 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: there's going to be an investigation of Congress and lo 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: and behold, congressman, he did it. They did it. I'm wondering, 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: you know, there's there was some one news account if 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: he could talk about this. I'm wondering, did Paul Ryan 136 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: know about this? Did the speaker then know about this? 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Because there was always when you go clarback to I 138 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: think the Jefferson when Willia Jefferson had the Cassidans that 139 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: they're opposed to at least informed the Speaker of the House. 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: If they're doing something relative to a separate and equal 141 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: branch of government, I either legislative branch. Did he know? 142 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: And because I mean, I don't know that, but this 143 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: is wrong. Regardless of whether they told him or not, 144 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: this is as wrong as it gets. And I don't 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: know if it was done for retribution, if it was 146 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: done to find out what Devon was going to release 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: in the memo, or probably both. I mean, it could 148 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: have been both reasons, but any or all of those 149 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: reasons are wrong. It should have never happened. Carson Jordan, 150 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: what can we do about this now? What can you 151 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: when you come back in January and you are in 152 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: the majority and a chairman of a committee, what can 153 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: you do about this now? I mean, whether it's the 154 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: origins of COVID, whether it's these breaking stories that we're 155 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: just learning about with the DOJ subpoenaing this information from 156 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Google on independent saffras, what can Congress and the House 157 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Republicans do well? The big thing you have is you 158 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: have the ability to come tell people to come testify. 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: So we've sent countless letters, We've asked the preserved documents, 160 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: we've asked the preserved information, We've asked people to come 161 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: in and talk. We basically get that, you know, the 162 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: we get the you know note, we're not common, we 163 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: get we get nothing from people. But in the majority 164 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: you have greater ability to get them there because you 165 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: can subpoena folks, and some people use subpoena aren't people 166 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: in government, So you're it's a real good chance that 167 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: you get those on the Fauci COVID issue and the 168 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: origin issue of that, and all the things that that 169 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I think they told us that weren't accurate. Um, we 170 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: really want to start with these eleven virologists who were 171 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: on that that initial phone call, that conference called that 172 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Fauci and Colin tav on February at first, twenty twenty, 173 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: when I think they got these virologists on the call 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: and got everyone to get their stories straight there, get 175 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: their story straight on where this thing started, get their 176 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: story straight on telling people it wasn't gaining a function 177 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: when we know it was, or sure it looks like 178 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: it was. So those are the people we want to 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: start with on that investigation, those eleven people, and then 180 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: of course on the on the DOJ. You want to 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: start with Elvis Chan, you want to start with Tim 182 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: t Bolt. Um, this guy who's left the FBI who 183 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: was both a whistle blower, and I went to Senator 184 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Grassley said Keboat was one of the guys at the 185 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: FBI involved in depressing the Hunter Biden's story. We had 186 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: a different whistle blower come talk to our office until 187 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: us Timothy T. Bolt is involved in just the overall 188 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: political nature of the Washington Field office. So we want 189 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to start with that guy on the political nature of 190 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: the Justice Department investigation. Let me talking about investigations that 191 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: became political, and that's the January sixth Committee issued their 192 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: report yesterday. I've said this before, I'm going to say 193 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: it again, and this is my view on this. What 194 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: happened in January six obviously was horrific, But the Department 195 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: of Justice, if they're pursuing a crime, can't base it 196 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: on hearsay and the committee's acknowledge it's and lawyers even 197 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: on the left have said, you know, it's got to 198 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: be admissible evidence. But your sense of this report, which was, 199 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anything was earth shaking in here. 200 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: They made these criminal referrals. Again, the Department of Justice 201 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: is going to do what they're going to do, but 202 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: your your sense of this January sixth report total political endeaver. 203 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: First time in American history you had a committee where 204 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: there was no cross examination ability because there was no 205 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: one allowed on with an imposing point of view. All 206 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: nine people were voted to impeach President Trump. The first 207 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: time in American history the minority leader was not allowed 208 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: to place on a select committee the individuals he or 209 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: she had selected. Never happened in the history of our country. 210 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: We caught these folks in so many lives. I caught 211 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: him in two lives about me. Just give you one 212 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: cook example of how they misrepresented things, how they lied 213 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: to the American people. They played a video clip of 214 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: me in a hearing once where they showed a clip 215 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing, I think an interview in Fox or something, 216 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: and I said, January sixth is the ultimate dative significance 217 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: and a presidential content. And what they failed to include 218 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: was the very sentence before that where I said, the 219 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg said January sixth is the 220 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: ultimate dative significance and a presidential content that sort of 221 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: changes its meaning. So that was just one of the 222 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: lives we caught him in and we didn't get to 223 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: be a part of it. We didn't get you said 224 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: it on the deposition since crossing Dame and witnesses see 225 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: the transcript, and we caught him in i think eight 226 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: different lines that we counted. So imagine how many other 227 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: things they told us that wasn't true because we never 228 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: got to see the HAPs that they got to see. 229 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: For goodness take So this is how bad it is. 230 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: They've been out to get President Trump from the get go. 231 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: It's now been seven years running where they've been after 232 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: this guy, and they go after him because he fought 233 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: for us. He shook up that town. He was one 234 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: of the best presidents we've ever had, certainly the one 235 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: who did more of what he said he would do 236 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: than any president in my lifetime. And that's why I'm 237 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: so so hopeful he's gonna gonna win this next one 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. You know, well, we hear what 239 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Carrisman Jordan said. That reminds me during the impeachment trial 240 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: during Mueller the Shift show, Yeah, there was always they 241 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: play half the clip with the email. They show you 242 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: a quarter of the speech and no context, and you 243 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: can make anything sound like anything you want and that 244 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: we caught that with the shift of staffords over and 245 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: over and over again. But they do it without embarrassment 246 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: now they do. They do. But you know, Congressman, were 247 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: thrilled you are now going to be the incoming chairman 248 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: of the Judiciary Committee. It's important for the a c. 249 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: L J's the important for our country. Thanks for being 250 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: with us on Seawn's broadcast, and have a merry Christmas 251 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: and a good new year, and we'll talk to you soon. 252 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Look forward to working with you. All right. Thanks guys, 253 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: God bless me. Rick, thank you you too. All Right, folks, 254 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: we've got a lot more ahead. On Hannity. That was 255 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: a fascinating interview because this is the guy. He's been 256 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: through it. He's been through it. He's going to be 257 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: controlling it as the chairman of the Judiciary command is 258 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: a big, big position, and I'm going to tell you 259 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm encouraged that Jim Jordan is going to be leading 260 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: that committee. You know, the Republicans won by a little, 261 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: but a little as all it took to switch the 262 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: control of that House, that chamber of the Congress. So 263 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: that's great. All right, We've got a lot more ahead. 264 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Our friend Rick Brunell, who's also our senior advisor for 265 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: international issues as well as national security. You got a 266 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: lot to ask him. He's gonna be joining us a 267 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: lot more ahead on Hannity. Check us out at at 268 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: j Seculo, at Jordans Secular and of course a CLJ 269 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: dot org, the American Center for Law and Justice a 270 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: CLJ dot org. Back with more Annity in just a moment. Hey, 271 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: welcome back to Hannity. By the way, good drummer in 272 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: that tune. I have to say I'm kidding it, but 273 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Really, it was a great tune by 274 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: our band. I appreciate Linda getting all that together for 275 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: us and our folks that got some of that up, 276 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: and i'd appreciate you playing it. It's Jay Secular. Ban 277 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: on Facebook and go there and check us out of 278 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: a Christmas CD out as well. That you can not 279 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: see these where they I guess stream wherever you get 280 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: your streaming. All right, we've got our friend Rick Arnell, 281 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: our colleague Rick Wearnell coming out. But if you're just 282 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: joining us, we had a little bit of breaking news here, 283 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: and that is that a President Zelinski arriving in the 284 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: United States late tonight or tomorrow morning. Yeah, he's gonna 285 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: be I don't know if it's addressing Congress or meeting 286 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: members of Congress. We'd dout know for the White House, 287 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be meeting with President Biden. But as 288 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: we talked to Cargress with Jordan, he had just found 289 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: out about to do is just like we did. So 290 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: there was not broad notice given to members of Congress, 291 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: even though the leadership kind of positions. But I think 292 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: what we heard from COGSM George was the pressure. I 293 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: think this is a pressure move. The financial prosopative spill 294 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: forty billion dollars to the said to ukraide in a 295 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: war that doesn't seem like it has an idpoint. Yet, 296 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like there's an endpoint. It seems like 297 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: there's an impass. Uh. There's been some people who try 298 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: to broker some type of resolution to this, which would 299 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: be I think great for everybody. The Europeans who are 300 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: most at risk with this expansion and this conflict and 301 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: need to in my view, step up to the play. 302 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: We're not saying that we should not be helping Ukrainians. 303 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I think they've look they've been under siege. But the 304 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is Europe plays a decisive role 305 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: here because the heating oil that they need and the 306 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: grain that they need from Ukraine is imperiled and it's 307 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: imperiled because of Russian aggression and were understand it. But 308 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: the Europeans need to be carrying their fair share of 309 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: all of this. Yeah, it's Linda wrote. You know, so 310 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: forty five billions of ukrate in this new budget. Zelidski 311 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: is now in the United States for the pressure campaign 312 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: right now, you know that's what this is. Of course, 313 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: what about Afghanistan and leave them behind? But what we're 314 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna do this, I don't This is pretty unpreceded at 315 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: a country at war to have their leader show up 316 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: on our soil to pressure us in deciding more buddy, 317 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: Like we haven't been already doing that. Yeah, and it's 318 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: like not like the United States hasn't been supportive. All right, 319 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined coming up by our friend Rick Rannell. 320 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about, including we'll throw 321 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: in Ukraine as well. Now that that is a breaking 322 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: news item. But again, Supreme Court Title forty two stayed temporarily. 323 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: More Hannity when we come back. Welcome back to Hannity. 324 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: This is Jordan's Seculo from the Americans Are for La 325 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: and Justice. Been hosted Sean's show today with my dad, 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: j Secular Chief Council at the a c LJ, and 327 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: another team member at the a c l J joining 328 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: us now, Rick Rannell, for We're acting Director of National Intelligence, 329 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: an ambassador to Germany's joining us now. He's the a 330 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: clj's Senior Advisor for National Security and Foreign Policy. Rick. 331 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: We've had this breaking news developed while we've been on 332 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: air on Sean's broadcast about Zelenski making a trip to 333 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: the United States as we speak to at least meet 334 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: with President Biden. There's been some conflicting news here. There's 335 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: also been news about meeting with Congress. I don't know 336 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: about addressing Congress. We also know there's forty million dollars 337 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: at stake for Ukraine in the Omnimus spending bill. What's 338 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: your reaction to the Ukrainian leader heading to the US. Well, look, 339 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: first of all, let's be clear, Zalinski is no dummy 340 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: to come the week of Christmas, the week of Hanaka 341 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: to try to have for these big presidents and Americans 342 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: and Americans, legislators, our representatives need to understand that we 343 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: must demand first that Europe pay their fair share. We 344 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: are keaching Europe to sit back and do very little 345 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: when the Americans rush in and try to lead on 346 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: these issues, when the reality is this is a European issue. 347 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: It's in their yard, it's right in there in the 348 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Germans region. The Germans are the largest economy in all 349 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: of Europe and they must do more. Why is it 350 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: that we have to immediately come to the Americans, the 351 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: American people who have been incredibly generous, We have been 352 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: at the forefront. But the reality is is that this 353 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: Biden administration has already overpaid for Ukrainian funding when our 354 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: border is suffering, when our people need programs. This is 355 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: a true outrage, and any legislator who is voting on 356 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: this in the Lame Duck should be barred from voting. 357 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: This is future spending. This is spending that should not 358 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: be voted on when we've already had elections, and we 359 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: should hold the people to account who are elected, already 360 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: elected and waiting to be sworn in and just a 361 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: week or so, you know, rick I said something very 362 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: similar earlier on the broadcast, and that was you know, 363 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the United States has been very generous with Ukraine. We've 364 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: done a lot of work in that region at the 365 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: American Center for Law Injustice and our global affiliates. But 366 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, I mean, I handle 367 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: the whole impeachment about Ukraine, but the truth of the 368 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: matter is the Europeans are the ones directly in harm's way, 369 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: and I mean harms way. I'm not talking about that 370 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: the war it's going to spill over into more of 371 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: Eastern Europe, although who knows, but the fact of the 372 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: economic impact, whether it's grain, whether it's heating oil, the 373 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: Europeans are you know, winter is here now, is about 374 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: to get very cold through a lot of the country 375 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: in the United States, same thing in Europe, and it 376 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: is time for them to carry their their weight of this. 377 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: And like I said, the American taxpayers has got a 378 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: problem on our own border. And Title four two, as 379 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I've mentioned earlier in broadcasts, has been allowed to stay 380 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: in place for an order from John Roberts, the Chief 381 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: Justice in the United States, but it is temporary. When 382 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: we're finished in the next few minutes on this broadcast, 383 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: you're going to see the Supreme Court could refer this 384 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: to the entire all nine justices. John Roberts could lift 385 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: the stay, he could leave it in place. I've handled 386 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: dozens of these days at the Supreme Court. I've had 387 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: him last a couple of hours. I've had him last 388 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: four months. But when you look at the border, and 389 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: you're the director of National Intelligence, so you know what 390 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: was going on on the border, and it's certainly not 391 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: gotten any better than ju been inside of government. This 392 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: is a national security issue for the United States. Well, 393 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: there's no question about it. When you look at who 394 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: is coming through the southern border. It's not just immigrants 395 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: from Mexico. It's not just immigrants from Latin America. It 396 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: is now proven that these are immigrants from around the world. 397 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: The world. The word is out. You want to get 398 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: into the United States, you fly into Mexico City and 399 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: you make your way up and there is an open border. 400 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: And it's outrageous. We must stop paying and asking the 401 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: American taxpayer to pay for all of these crises around 402 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: the world when we've got our own crises going up. 403 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's the Iran or China. We 404 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: are training the Europeans to sit back. Look at NATO 405 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: j We have NATO members who are not paying their 406 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: fair share. We just added new NATO members who are 407 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: unwilling to pay their fair share immediately. And this is 408 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: a European problem. We are training europe to sit back 409 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: and wait for the United States because we're way too 410 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: jumpy to start spending on other people's issues. And this 411 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: is an outrage. And the American people should call their 412 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: representatives and demand that we vote on this in the 413 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: new Congress. Since we have elected leadership, we have new 414 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: elected leaders that are just waiting to be sworn in. 415 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: We should wait for those leaders who were held to 416 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: account on the Ukrainian funding issue in November. You know, Rick, 417 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: another issue we've seen and I know that this is 418 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: a forefront for you, is this collusion. Just call them 419 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: what it is between and what Elon Musk has exposed 420 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: and what you have to imagine. After we've heard from 421 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: people like Mark Zuckerberg talking about their discussions with the 422 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: FBI and federal law enforcement. You tweeted out just to 423 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: one of the new Twitter file releases about the number 424 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: of FBI employees who were at Twitter and the fact 425 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: that they had their own slack channel their own crib 426 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: sheet to onboard their new arrivals. I mean it was 427 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: over a dozen that had been identified who went right 428 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: from Jim Comey's FBI literally some of his deputies, right 429 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: from Jim Comey's FBI to Twitter to start suppressing conservatives 430 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: and Republicans. Well, look, they brought over their secret ways. 431 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: And that's really what's scary to me is we had 432 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: too many people who were trying to censor almost exclusively conservative, 433 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: doing it in the dark, not wanting there to be 434 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: any type of government regulation over it, and it happened 435 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: in a very serious ways. I can't overstay the concern 436 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: that we should have as Americans when your intelligence agencies 437 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: are working to crush dissenting viewpoints, it is a very 438 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: scary place to be, and we are catching and we 439 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: should have media that are much more interested in stopping 440 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: this bloke of government intelligence agencies trying to crush the 441 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: American people and crush the sense. It's a very scary 442 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: place to be. Yeah, we just got word just now, 443 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: and this is interesting. I mentioned that the Chief Joshua 444 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: addition an administrative stay so that Title forty two could 445 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: stay effected because we was set to expire today and 446 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: the government then had to file a brief and then 447 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: it would be the Chief Justice we either keep the 448 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: stay denied the stay or refer to the court Rick. 449 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: This is fascinating, And you know, with our work at 450 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: the American Center for Lawn Justice, you're part of our team. 451 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of experience at the Supreme Court 452 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: for I mean, I've done a lot of stays and 453 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: a lot of merits cases as well, over twenty three 454 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: I think now merit's cases, but we've done dozens of stays. 455 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: Interesting here, the Biden administration just moments ago asked the 456 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Supreme Court today for a delay in the termination of 457 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: Title forty two immigration Polly policy, asking for the program 458 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: to conclude no sooner than next week. So they've asked 459 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: for they've asked for a week for this to go. 460 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: You know what they're afraid of if the judge, if 461 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: the Chief Justice would have lifted the stay. Rick, they 462 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: were afraid that they had nothing prepared to go and 463 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: there would have been no enforcement. It's really once again 464 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: showing a national security issues, which the Porter crisis is 465 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: a national security issues. Once again that the Biden administration 466 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: doesn't know what they're doing. They are ill prepared. They 467 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: celebrated in Afghanistan that they brought ninety percent of the 468 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: people home. They dropped the Russian thanksans that President Frump 469 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: had on Putin's pipeline and created this war in Ukraine. 470 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: We have to have an administration that thinks through these 471 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: consequences of not enforcing the border. We can now see 472 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: these Democrats. They're peeling off. They're beginning to say this 473 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: border is a crisis and the Biden administration isn't doing 474 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: much about it. When you're losing your own party, you 475 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: know you've got a lot of trouble and the policy 476 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: is failing. Let me ask you a question, Dad, because 477 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: this is the way it is. Big report. Is interesting 478 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: is the administration they've made their Supreme Court filing that 479 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: was due at five pm, so right before or five 480 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: pm Eastern time, and they say they want a delay 481 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: in the termination time forty two but just a week 482 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: or so. Yeah, so they don't want to keep title 483 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: for you two. No, I want to make that clear. Correct. 484 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: Why a week because a lot of things could happen 485 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: in a week. They could come up with a new plan, 486 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: they could come up with no plan. It signals to 487 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: the Court something else. If it's such, if it's so urgent, 488 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: not because you're willing to say let it go for 489 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: another week or so, well, then the Court may say, 490 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: you know what, there's a real constitutional issue here, and 491 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna leave this day in place until 492 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: we have the case addressed on the marriage. I think 493 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: they just upped the enny of the Supreme Court granting 494 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: review which case we're going to get involved as meekst 495 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: with the court. Our briefs, by the way, folks at 496 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, even our Friend of the Court briefs 497 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: have been cited by the Chief Justice, by Justices Bryer 498 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: when he was on the Court, by Justice Stevens, by 499 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: Justice Alito, and others. So it's a very interesting that 500 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep updating people. The Justice Department is 501 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: still seeking to uphold the lower court rulings that held 502 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: the Biden administration could eliminate the policy this asking for 503 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: delaying the programs and saying it should remain in place 504 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: until December twenty seventh if the Supreme Court decides the 505 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Title forty two case before Friday, Right, So they're trying 506 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: to dictate to the Court Yeah, it's a very risky 507 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: and bold move on the government's part, and I don't 508 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: think it's going to go over well. So we're going 509 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: to review the preform. We're done with that. More information 510 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: on our broadcast. I'm sure Sean will tomorrow on Handy 511 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: as well. Rick. One last question. You worked with the 512 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: a CLJ now for a while, and I think it's 513 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: important for Sean's audience to understand and the scope of 514 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: the things like the title forty two, like what's happening 515 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: in Europe, that our engagement on these issues really are 516 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: giving people a voice and an important voice and allowing 517 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: this to go forward. Look, one of the reasons I 518 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: joined a CLJ after leaving the Trump administration was because 519 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: of the action that we take. We don't complain, but 520 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: we actually file lawsuits, We actually try and stop the 521 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: bad stuff from happening. And I couldn't be more proud. 522 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: I hope that people do support the ACLJ. You know, 523 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: one thing, J, I just wanted to add this one 524 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: week's delay that the Biden administration was get the closer 525 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: to when the new Congress comes in, and it's clear 526 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: to me that they're playing politics here and they'd like 527 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: to blame the Republicans so that when the chaos comes forward, 528 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: it's under Kevin McCarthy's leadership and the Republicans in the House, 529 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: so that they can say, look, we didn't have this 530 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: chaos until the Republicans took over the House. Now, Rick, 531 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a very good observation, and the fact 532 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: is this is gonna It's a very bizarre single to 533 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: the court though, too. I want as a Supreme Court practice, 534 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: it's a very unusual single to say we don't want 535 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: to stay. We don't want you to grant the governments stay, 536 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: but you know it granted for a week or ten days, 537 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: so we can kind of figure out what we're gonna 538 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: do here. Meanwhile, I think that's what puts it into 539 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: a new Congress. They blame them for every name, no 540 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: plan in place. They're taking out the biggest enforcement mechanism 541 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: to have, which still isn't getting it all done, but 542 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: it was better than what they had with Title eight, 543 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: which is the other administrative process that you go through. 544 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: But I think this is a highly This was not 545 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: an anticipated move by mode. I don't think most people 546 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: thought this is what the government was going to do. 547 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Trying to have through the solicitor Jena both plays. I 548 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: think what Rick said is right. I think it's politics 549 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: more than law, and it's not really that rational for 550 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: people to be hearing this that we're not asking for 551 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: a stay. We don't agree with the States, but don't 552 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: do away with this right now, even though it's set 553 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: to expire tonight, because they're in chos It's what Rick said, 554 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: they're in chaos, and they would rather blame that Kres chaos. 555 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: They could blame it in January third, they get to 556 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: blame the chaos on the Conservatives. Rick, We appreciate you 557 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: being with us, appreciate you being part of the team. Folks. 558 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: We've got another segment coming up on Hannity. We're gonna 559 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: while we're on break, we're gonna find out more about 560 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: this Supreme Court filing. But I will tell you highly 561 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: unusual that the way you defeat a stay if you're 562 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: the other side is to say the station nut is 563 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: not necessary. We have a plan. Instead, they say, you 564 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: know what, don't let this expire tonight because we don't 565 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: want it on our hands. Let it expire in a 566 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: week or ten days. And you know what that means, Well, 567 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: maybe it'll be on somebody else's hands, so we'll see 568 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: what happens here. It's very interesting for the court. We've 569 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: got another segment of Hannity coming up. Stay tuned a 570 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: lot more ahead. Support the work of the ACLJ American 571 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Center for Lawn Justice. You can do that by going 572 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: to ACLJ dot org. That's ACLJ dot org and follow 573 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: Jordan on Twitter or truth at at Jordan Secular at 574 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: j Seculo at ACLJ, and like our social media pasage 575 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: as well. We'll be back with more Hannity in just 576 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: a minute, and moving back to Hannity is Jay Seculo 577 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: and Jordan Seculo. We're sending it for Sean today. Of course, 578 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: we run the American Center for Lawn Juice. I got 579 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: some breaking news. We just got the brief that was 580 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: filed in the Title forty two case. That was the 581 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: authorization put forward in the Trump administration to deal with 582 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: the crisis on the border in light of the pandemic 583 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: that was going throughout the country. It's interesting the government 584 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: has asked for It's very unusual there's a stay that's 585 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: in effect. The government was expected to reject or at 586 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: least move to dissolve that stay. Immediately. Instead, they've asked 587 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: the Chief Justice to keep the stay in place for 588 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: at least a week while they figure out what to do. 589 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: And it's interesting in their brief this is what your 590 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: United States government is putting in their briefs, folks. The 591 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: government recognizes that the end of Title forty two orders 592 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: will likely lead to disruption and a temporary increase in 593 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: unlawful border crossings. The government is in no way seeks 594 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: to minimize the seriousness of that problem. And then, as 595 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: our friend Rick Ronel said, it looks like they're putting 596 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: it now, pushing it towards the Congress. That's where they're 597 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna blame for all of this. And of course if 598 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: they can extend this for about ten or twelve days, 599 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: they can blame the Republican Congress. We're gonna get into 600 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: this a lot more in the days ahead. If you 601 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: want information about this, I encourage you to go to 602 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: ACLJ dot org. We'll have more information up about this tomorrow. 603 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: And again we thank Linda, thank the whole team in Hannity, 604 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: and of course thank our friend Sean Hannity for letting 605 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: Jordan I sit in today. And again, if you want 606 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: to support work that is protecting America, protecting our country. 607 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: Go to ACLJA dot org. We're in a matching challenge campaign, 608 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: which means if you donate a gift, it's tax deductible, 609 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: but we get a matching gift and that's a ACLJ 610 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: dot org. That's ACLJ dot org. It has been a 611 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: privilege and an honor to sit in for Sean. Nobody 612 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: could do it like Sean Hannity can, but we had 613 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: a great time and appreciate you all listening to us. 614 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Have a wonderful holiday, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, and we'll 615 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: talk to you next year.