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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm to

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Speaker 1: bling a chalk reboarding and I'm stared out and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start today's episode with a discovery. In two thousand seven,

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Speaker 1: a snorkeler off the southern coast of the Dominican Republic

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Speaker 1: stumbled across a group of sunken cannons and immediately alerted

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Speaker 1: Dominican officials, who in turn contacted a team of underwater

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Speaker 1: archaeologists at Indiana University that had been doing research in

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Speaker 1: the area for several years. So when the Indiana team

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Speaker 1: checked it out, they realized that it wasn't just a

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Speaker 1: bunch of cannons down there, It was the wreckage of

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Speaker 1: a ship, and not just any ship. Because of the

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Speaker 1: location of the find and the arrangement of the cannons,

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Speaker 1: the Indiana researchers believed that they had found the remains

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Speaker 1: of the car A Merchant, which is sometimes also called

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Speaker 1: the quit A Merchant, a ship once belonging to a

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Speaker 1: seventeenth century pirate of notorious repute, Captain William kidd Are.

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Speaker 1: So this find was obviously significant, not just because of

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Speaker 1: its connection to a pirate. But because of the legend

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Speaker 1: of this particular pirate supposed it lost treasure that's circulated

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Speaker 1: throughout the years. It's a legend that started up around

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Speaker 1: the time of kids death in seventeen o one and

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Speaker 1: persisted in the following centuries. The legend, of course, has

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Speaker 1: been the motivation behind numerous treasure hunts throughout the years,

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Speaker 1: from America's eastern seaboard to the Caribbean, to Madagascar to Asia.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Barry Clifford, who discovered the remains of the

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Speaker 1: Widow One, said quote, everyone who has ever walked a

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Speaker 1: beach from the Dominican Republic to Maine has looked for

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Speaker 1: the pirate treasure of Captain Kidd. It's even inspired works

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Speaker 1: of literature, from Daniel Dafoe's Pirate Writings to Robert Louis

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Speaker 1: Stevenson's Treasure Island and post Story The Gold Bug. But

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Speaker 1: over the last century or so, historians have debated not

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Speaker 1: only the existence of anis dent of this lost treasure,

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Speaker 1: but whether Kid was ever really a pirate at all.

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Speaker 1: Crushing yeah, I mean, some believe that he acted only

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Speaker 1: as a privateer, who is a person legitimately hired by

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Speaker 1: a government to attack enemy ships, so basically kind of

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Speaker 1: a pirate catcher or a wartime legitimate pirate sort of. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we're going to take a look at what's known

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Speaker 1: about kids life and how exactly his adventures on the

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Speaker 1: high seas went down to try to see how likely

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Speaker 1: either of these scenarios are. It's sort of tough, though,

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Speaker 1: looking for any pirate tendencies and kids early life, because

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Speaker 1: believed to have been the son of a Presbyterian minister

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Speaker 1: born in Sixtet in Greenick, Scotland. So a biographical article

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Speaker 1: about Kid by Richard Mean suggests that it might have

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Speaker 1: been because his father's death and his mother's subsequent remarriage.

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Speaker 1: Other sources suggest that maybe it was just because he

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Speaker 1: grew up in a port town and had pretty easy

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Speaker 1: access to the sailor's life. But either way, it seems

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Speaker 1: that Kid left home and took to the sea at

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Speaker 1: a pretty early age, and according to the Encyclopedia of

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Speaker 1: World Biography, though, the first verifiable record of him doesn't

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Speaker 1: pop up until about six eighty nine, when Kid was

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Speaker 1: already forty four years old, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: lost years in there. At that time, he was a

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Speaker 1: that Mute Need ditched their captain and went to the

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Speaker 1: island of Nevis, an English colony. While they were there,

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Speaker 1: they renamed the ship the Blessed William and Kid was

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Speaker 1: made captain either by a vote or by the governor

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Speaker 1: for the governor of Nevis. France and England were at

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Speaker 1: spoils they got from those ships that they attacked. Soon though,

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Speaker 1: of course that meant there isn't a lot of treasure

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Speaker 1: first he was intending to hunt down his mutinous crew

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Speaker 1: Apparently somewhat mysteriously, Kid and Sarah applied for a marriage

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Speaker 1: did set up a very nice, comfortable life together. Sarah

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Speaker 1: he became the father to Sarah's two daughters. So a

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Speaker 1: very different life for him. Right. Suddenly it's this former

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like a pretty sweet set up. But

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Speaker 1: kids still wanted more or something a little different. At least,

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Speaker 1: the sea still called to him. He still had the

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Speaker 1: even while living in New York, Kid would get called

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Speaker 1: upon from time to time because of his background as

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Speaker 1: his friend Robert Livingston hatched a bigger and potentially more

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Speaker 1: Kid needed them investors and of course, some sort of

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Speaker 1: to a group of key people supported kids plan. The

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Speaker 1: He'd also be hunting down pirate ships who were causing

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Speaker 1: divided up among his investors. According to an article by

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Speaker 1: hunting pirate doesn't sound so bad, right, That sounds like

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Speaker 1: that Kid and his investors were technically proposing stealing stolen

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Speaker 1: So thanks to that influential group though behind him, Kid

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Speaker 1: First off, he passed a Royal Navy ship without dipping

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Speaker 1: doing so was a real sign of disrespect. And who

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Speaker 1: It was just that he couldn't find any ships to attack,

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Speaker 1: much on certain occasions. So for example, on August fourteenth,

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