1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: So we're not to get right to this story because, um, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: we don't have much time. So we're talking about a 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: school there was a Nazi flag in the classroom. The 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: teacher has been suspended. Uh, we're thinking the flag was 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: just there to teach World War two? So what the 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: hell is the deal? But we've got missed a couple 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: of other German flags. RAJ Ray, who's a spokesman for 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: the school, Is that what you are? Yes? The communications. 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Is there anything we're missing from this story because it 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: seems pretty nutty to us? Yeah, you know, Um, the 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: issue that we have here is we have several students 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: concerned about the flags being in the classroom, one of 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: them featuring a swastika, and at least one of those 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: students was a passer by, so they didn't know the 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: context of the flag being there. So why didn't somebody 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: just tell them what the context was and this would 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: be over? It's how the student felt uncomfortable, Um, you know, 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: not seeing a symbol of hate on their school campus 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: at place where they're not I'm not trying to be argumented. 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: We're just short on time and I want to get 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: the information. So so why didn't somebody just explain to 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: the student. Look, it's for teaching world. Were two specifically 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: propaganda propaganda symbolism which is legitimate, and then the and 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: then that's it. Why why was the teacher suspended? It 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: could have been a conversation, but once they did hear 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: from one student, they did hear from others and then 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: had cony total. We understand it's too Yeah, you know, 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. The investigation is ongoing, which is why 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the teacher involved is currently on administation. The investigation of 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: what the investigation into if the flags were used before, 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: in what context? If they were used before, why didn't 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: you just ask the teacher? I mean that would take 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: literally seems like this all could be solved in five minutes. Yeah, well, 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, we have to go through our processes and 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: making sure that we look at timelines, talk with site 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: administration that may have had conversations with the teacher in 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the past, so it does take time to gather those 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: details and also talk with students about the impact that 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: it had on them of seeing doesn't matter what the 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: impact was on the students, that doesn't matter their children. 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: If it's a legitimate lesson being taught in the legitimate way, 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: which again, now listen and runch with all due respect. 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on. It's good of you, um, 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: and we understand that you don't make the policy. You're 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: the spokesperson, so again, this is not coming after you. 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: This strikes us as anti intellectual, nearly superstitious cow towing 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: to the overreaction of children. That's no way for an 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: institutional learning to act. Right. What where we're coming from 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: is there is a way to be teaching these very 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: important topics and history lessons to students without prominently displaying 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: a symbol. You wouldn't You wouldn't want to use the 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: most successful piece of propaganda in the history of the 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: planet to teach about propaganda, obviously, right, there are other 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: ways of going about it. There's other ways of you know, 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: sharing history without having the flag in the classroom making 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: students feel uncomfortable. Interestingly enough, there are real parallels between 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: this policy and the policies of Nazi Germany, are there? 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Really are. We appreciate greatly you coming on and know 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: we're out of time, so but yeah, yeah, it's it's 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: thank you. It's very nice to you to come on, 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: very nice to come on and Joe's absolutely right. She's 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: just doing her job right, although it sounds like she 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: buys what she's saying. Yeah, well she's supposed to. That's 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: her job, folks. I don't think any comment is needed. 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: We all heard it together. This is the best display 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: of this that I've heard anywhere in America yet. It's 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: it's superstition mixed with fear of being called out yourself 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: by the woke mob. This is scary, and the teacher 69 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: has been suspended. We're still doing our investigation. Yeah, I 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: was teaching about the symbols of the Nazi regime and 71 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: how powerful they were. Okay, no problem, go back to work. 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: But that didn't happen. Who