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Speaker 1: So I go to lunch, and I'm going to lunch

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Speaker 1: with a former colleague of mine, right, actually not just

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Speaker 2: But my former boss, and my former boss.

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Speaker 1: because this man has done amazing work. Can't say his name,

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Speaker 1: then I went to the Berry's boot Camp twenty fifth anniversary, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Have any of y'all ever been to Berry's boot Camp?

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Speaker 1: All right, my boy said, Berry's boot camp is dope.

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Speaker 1: I got to meet the Berry. There's a Berry. I

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Speaker 1: I met Barry. Salute to Barry who lives out there

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get it in ESPN and FS one

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Speaker 1: gonna take those opportunities.

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00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: So maybe he entertained it, maybe he didn't.

438
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: But if you want to play and somebody offered me

439
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: right now, man, you know what I want to do?

440
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: Dog? For real, Man, I can't lie to you. Dog,

441
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: I just want I just want another chance to play.

442
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: Just turn that corner one more time.

443
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: Get busy, and somebody calls me, He's like, yeah, we're

444
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: thinking about bringing you in.

445
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't entertain it. I'm be like, yes, thet go.

446
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: Let go. What I gotta do? Where y'all?

447
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: Okay, we y'a address your own line off a figure roll?

448
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm over there. So come on, man, let's get

449
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 2: into this Griffin situation.

450
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people heckle him, a lot of people

451
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: think it's amusing, a lot of people know that it

452
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 1: is genuine, but still he's the butt of some jokes.

453
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: I even posted something I saw where he was talking

454
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: about it. They cut it up and pipulated it. I

455
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: didn't do it in any male intention. But to me,

456
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: if something funny, I'm I'm gonna put it out there.

457
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: Ask Stephen Jackson, asked Matt Barnes, who are my dogs?

458
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: But when Kwame Brown was at their head, I was

459
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: posting and talking about it too. I'm that friend like

460
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm clowning you too, And if you don't like it,

461
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: then we may not be the same friends because.

462
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm not changing.

463
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: But I'm also not gonna stop laughing at the joke

464
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: because you the butt of the joke.

465
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Speaker 2: You ever see that. That's what Will Smith did.

466
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Speaker 1: That's what Will Smith got caught up into. Wait, man, man,

467
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Speaker 1: I've been like this my wife. Maybe you know what

468
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you might start laughing. It got you

469
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Speaker 1: get him.

470
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Speaker 2: Back, It's all good. I'm a comedian too, let me

471
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Speaker 2: shoot at him.

472
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Speaker 1: So anyway, his openness about this is put a bullseye

473
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Speaker 1: on him. At the same time, it's been three years

474
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: and that's where part of the ammunition for this bulls

475
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Speaker 1: eye is coming from.

476
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk through this story right here. Let

477
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Speaker 2: me get his quote again.

478
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Speaker 1: His quote was, there are a lot of players that

479
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: are afraid to say they want to play.

480
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: That's what he basically.

481
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: Said, I can't say no to that, But I disagree

482
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: with that because I've seen more.

483
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: A lot of players that are more scared.

484
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: To let it go than actually want to go and

485
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Speaker 1: play again, and they can be looked at as the same.

486
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Speaker 2: You can confuse those two.

487
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Speaker 1: I should say, But being real, I know more guys

488
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: scared to let it go than scared to say, oh,

489
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Speaker 1: I want to go back.

490
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: Cats die in that locker room. Some of them cats be.

491
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Speaker 1: On their last leg, can't play that well whatever, don't

492
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: want to go home, don't want to go back, don't

493
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 1: want to go to the real world, don't know what

494
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Speaker 1: they gonna do next.

495
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: I've had way more of those conversations, Cass.

496
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Speaker 1: When I left Jacksonville my tenth year I retired, I

497
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: was like dog one, I'm sorry, and I was still

498
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Speaker 1: making run plays, but I'm a DN and long story short,

499
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: in my day, you gotta get them sacks and that

500
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: running game they were hyping up that wasn't doing it.

501
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: They were saying that, but they ain't care.

502
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: Who are the best d ns, Bruce Smith, Reggie White,

503
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: sack sacks right, But then in that era, they kept saying,

504
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, go play the run, go play the run.

505
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: It's all good. I was playing the run still, I

506
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: wasn't getting no sacks.

507
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: And guess what I wanted to leave because I was like,

508
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: better days are ahead somewhere else, because my best days

509
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: are behind me playing football. Every single dude in that

510
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: Jacksonville locker room, to a man, was arguing with me,

511
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: where you going, Wiley.

512
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: What you're doing. You don't gonna stay paying you. You're

513
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: still chilling, You're still good. They were to my run man,

514
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: what you doing? And I was like, Oh, I gotta

515
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: do something else. It's time to move on. What you're

516
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: gonna do then, I don't know, but I got enough

517
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Speaker 2: to say. I got enough say where I ain't gotta

518
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: be forcing something and then I'm gonna figure it out

519
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: when I get into the real world. Won't you figure

520
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: it out? Yeah? This is kind of a painful way

521
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: to figure it out.

522
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: Let's just say not just physically my knees start hurting,

523
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: but more than that, I had a torn growing off

524
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Speaker 1: the bone. I was like, I swore to myself, one

525
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: more surgery, one more major injury.

526
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm done. Tore my growing off the bone. And I also.

527
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Said this, it didn't feel good being in the locker

528
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: room where you're not held in high esteem when you

529
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: used to be right now, that's meaning that I didn't

530
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: want it. That's why this whole entertaining stuff.

531
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Speaker 2: When you ain't happy being number fifty three, you don't

532
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: want to play football no more, not to that level.

533
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: You gotta want it, like.

534
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: Like a ray Lewis, like I've seen Junior say out,

535
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: like I've seen them great ones, like dog, just give

536
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: me anything and I'll tear it up. I'll go at it,

537
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: I'll beat it one. I was like, mine gotta be

538
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: convenient now. And when it wasn't convenient, I was out

539
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: literally that summer, literally that offseason. The Giants were calling

540
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: Marcel's come on, stop playing who leads the NFL?

541
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: What do you do? You ain't even on TV doing nothing.

542
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: You just chilling getting fat, probably and hanging out with

543
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: all them girls and running errands, riding around the rolls. Royce,

544
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: you're right, and it doesn't hurt. So I didn't take

545
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: their calls. I mean I respected them, but I was like, no, no, no, no.

546
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl that year out you beat dumbing.

547
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: You thought it was gonna be a good ending to

548
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: that story. Hell no, I should have kept playing. But

549
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: that's my point. Most guys want to keep playing, and

550
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: they do, but when it's over to r G three's point,

551
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: it's a lot of them that want to go back.

552
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot more that realized, oh,

553
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: ain't nothing left back there, but I'm scared to go here,

554
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: so they don't want to admit that they can't let go.

555
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: It's funny.

556
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: I thought that was an interesting conversation that RG three

557
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: was having and being candid. I respect that man for that.

558
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: RG three and I've been cool over the years. I

559
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: haven't seen them forever, but you know, him and his

560
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: ex wife. I don't know what else, but yeah, RG

561
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: three and his wife. Yeah, good people's man. Always been

562
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: a great god, big heart. So let's see what's gonna

563
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: happen with this. Y'all think that RG three should be

564
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: back at the NFL. I will say this no, as

565
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: an evaluator, this is how it goes. Sorry, even RG

566
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: three to hummy, I'm not picking up somebody who used

567
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: to do it, who stopped doing it, who wants to

568
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: do it again?

569
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: You know why?

570
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: There are a lot of other talents on that conveyor

571
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: belt way. Younger than you, way more spry than you,

572
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: way more spongy than you in terms of taking this

573
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: information and this culture in. And I'm a vesting them

574
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: because they cheaper too. You may come cheap, but they

575
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: got all these VET minimums and all that stuff. Would

576
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: you would you gonna get a rookie undrafted?

577
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Would you a couple bucks? All right?

578
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I got you. So I just think that it's not

579
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I'm gonna be interested. If the gando, I

580
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: would love to see him go, but then he gonna start,

581
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: So he's just holding the clipboard clipboard. What's better? That's

582
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: a question? Be them in coming? What's better? Third string

583
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL or WLL. RG three has a ESPN

584
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: and his podcast right now, what would you take?

585
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: I want to see what that is?

586
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: And is RG three gonna get an opportunity to get

587
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: back in the league. If so, which team is the

588
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: best fit? Whoa one of my hypists? Maybe my hypists

589
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: all the way through high school? This got me through it.

590
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: I wish I wish I could do y'all.

591
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: The whole thing.

592
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: I have this thing black. It'd be pitch dark in here,

593
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: and then all you will see is nothing but like

594
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: the stage, you'd be like squinting trying to see that,

595
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: and then you hear brothers assist us. I don't know

596
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: what this brother is coming to. And then I literally

597
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: would do this with the likes I if it yes,

598
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the rhythm the rebel, Oh my god. All right, y'all, man,

599
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Speaker 1: I need a moment for that one. That is insanely

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Speaker 1: hype right.

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Speaker 1: let's talk about what Skip is doing not for the community,

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Speaker 1: well maybe for the black community. According to Dion Sai,

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Speaker 1: we know that he recently thanked Skip Bayless when he

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Speaker 1: was in Bold of Colorado for providing opportunities to black

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Speaker 1: former athletes in sports media, and Skip Bayless expressed how deeply,

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Speaker 1: deeply meaningful Deon Sanders' words were to him and why

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Speaker 2: All right, it was a cry fest out there.

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Speaker 1: We saw, you know, Dion and Michael Irvin giving it

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Speaker 1: up real love.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing all of that.

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Speaker 1: So here's a quote watching last Friday, when Dion said

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Speaker 1: what he said to me in Boulder, Colorado. Somehow, that

633
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Speaker 1: moment to me just felt so meant to be. Somehow

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Speaker 1: to me, that moment felt like it had been in

635
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Speaker 1: the making since I was three or four years Oh. So,

636
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Speaker 1: Bailey shared this upbringing growing up in a challenging environment

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Speaker 1: with alcoholic parents and a significant role played by Katie

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Speaker 1: Belle Henderson, a black woman from Chicago who helped raise

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Speaker 1: him and taught them valuable life lessons. He said, quote,

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Speaker 1: I did grow up in Oklahoma City. I was the

641
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: oldest of three children in a broken home, wrecked by alcohol.

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00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: From the start, Katie Bill Henderson taught me right from wrong.

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Speaker 1: She taught me about the evils of alcohol. She built

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00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: the foundation in my life that to this moment benefits me.

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00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: What Dion thanked me for came from Katie Belle Henderson. Okay,

646
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: now we all know. Skip Bayless emphasized how Katie Bell

647
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: was more of a mother figure to him than even

648
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Speaker 1: his biological mother and how she got him on the

649
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: right path because his father was a functional alcoholic.

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Speaker 2: And his mother would drink till she was drunk. Drunk.

651
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: A tough sledging for Skip Bayles's growing up, and he

652
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: said he learned how to be on the right path.

653
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Values wisdom all from Katie Bell. Okay, so now let's

654
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: go all the way back to his ESPN days. If

655
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Bayliss has an invited everybody on the show, including me.

656
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I used to be on Cold Piece, used to be

657
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: on first take at ESPN, Keyshawn Johnson, Michael Irvin, Jalen Rose,

658
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp, etc. Richard Sherman now Lil Wayne, Now I

659
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: chose it man, you I chow there. Now he comes

660
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: across and I've always said this, listen, Skip baylist on air,

661
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: comes across, not too respectful, you know, stubborn, etc. But

662
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: then off air, I've always said he's a bubble, like

663
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: just gentle, like a cloud, like, Oh he's so cool,

664
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: super real. But this takes a little turn for me.

665
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: So let's talk through that turn and that twist of

666
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: how this story is. Because Dion was giving him his flowers,

667
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: and on that level, we should get him his flowers.

668
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: At the same time, there's something about this story that

669
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: just doesn't sit well with me, right, and I'm gonna

670
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: talk through it. So Skip Bayless had an example of

671
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: growing up white family, etc. Oklahoma say all that with

672
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: a black housekeeper basically, and she taught him not only life,

673
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: but she taught him, I guess some empathy and respect

674
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: for a different culture, different experience, different race, different that's

675
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: nicity a black person gotch I experienced the exact flip.

676
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: It's crazy and it wasn't in the same respect as Skip.

677
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: But I was a young kid and at my grandmother's house,

678
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: which I would live there until I was age five,

679
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: age six, and then was there every single weekend.

680
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: We had two white families that stayed with us.

681
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: My grandmother would get extra money, she was in the

682
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: medical field. She would get extra money take care and

683
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: being a caretaker to these two older white people, an

684
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: old white man and an old white.

685
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Woman, Uncle John and Anti glow Right.

686
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: So I grew up with a different dimension of looking

687
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: at race as well, kind of like how a Skip

688
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: is talking about and it was weird. So Skip is

689
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: hearing on the outside, what black people are, you know

690
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: in this country obviously from slavery all the way through

691
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: the era where Skip was growing up in the South,

692
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: what a black housekeeper, let's say, in the fifties or

693
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, sixties, Civil rights era. You know,

694
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: you're hearing about the inferiority of black people versus white

695
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: people and their superiority, especially at that time, and they

696
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: were trying to level the playing field and make it equal,

697
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: equal rights.

698
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: Civil rights era.

699
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Now flip it to when I'm in the seventies, in

700
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: the eighties and you know, we having a lot of

701
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: different issues, but still some of the issues and the

702
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: remnants of that.

703
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: But now it's morphed into gang violence.

704
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: And there was a war on the streets and the

705
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: war and drugs and crime, et cetera. And black people

706
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: are largely the reason is happening, and largely it is

707
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: happening two black people all in this little tight local

708
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: called the hood the ghetto, and then white people are

709
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: protected and white people are synonymous with the.

710
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: Suburbs and peace and harmony and safety.

711
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing, and that's why I watch throws

712
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: like the different strokes, and I'm watching different strokes.

713
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute.

714
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: The kids from Harlem go all of a sudden to

715
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Manhattan and to the Upper West Side, and next thing

716
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, they're living lavishly. And I remember seeing that

717
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like wow, and then you mix into that bam.

718
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: But I got two white people right here who need me,

719
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: And then people telling me that they're they're they're more

720
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: powerful than me, they're superior to me, they have it

721
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: better than me, they they they And I'm looking like, well,

722
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: aren't they part of them?

723
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: Aren't they a part of them?

724
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: So now makes sense to this reconcile that cause it

725
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: must be deeper than just white people have that. And

726
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: then Skip had to go through, well, it must be

727
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: deeper than just black people are all that because look

728
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: at this beautiful black woman raising me better than my

729
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: white mother. Okay, I love all that. And then what

730
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: does that do to you? It can make you go

731
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: two places. It could go make you have guilt if

732
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: you ever harbored some of that negativity and then had

733
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: it corrected.

734
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Through that experience. People always talk about white guilt, etc.

735
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: Or whatever.

736
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Or it can actually magnify what you already know about

737
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: this world, that it's way deeper than skin color, and

738
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: that you really need to look at people. If you

739
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: want to give out and see equality, you have to

740
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: display and emit equality. That's where I think Skip falls

741
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: short in the understanding that's the only issue.

742
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: Let's talk to this issue.

743
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: We have similar experiences, but he's taking it to a

744
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: different place. When he says he gives out opportunities, or

745
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: they say I should say they say he gives out opportunities,

746
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: he accept that and says, yeah, I give out opportunities

747
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: for black people because I was raised by a black woman, literally,

748
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: that is not actually showing equality.

749
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Literally, that is not actually.

750
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: Taking the great things that you learn from that experience

751
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: and putting them on full display.

752
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: Because now that would seem like.

753
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: The black guy gets to go to the plate and

754
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: get four strikes where the white guy gets three being

755
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: one of the black guys that got an opportunity. And

756
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: it didn't come from Skip, but it was on Skip's show.

757
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: So let me give him his credit and it's due.

758
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: Yes, I never ever thought, and I never want to think.

759
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: That Skip looked at the pool of ESPN candidates and said,

760
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: you had that young woman that just retired. Marcella's bring

761
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: him over here because he's black. Because I was raised

762
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: by a black person, so therefore, let me look out

763
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: for him.

764
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: I believed enough in me.

765
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: I believed enough in what my powers were that I'm

766
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: gonna be here regardless black, white, orange. I didn't want

767
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: to get in because of the color of my skin.

768
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: And I know he's well intended, and I also know

769
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: that he's well he's coming from a great place. At

770
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: the same time, the road to hell is paid with

771
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: good intentions. And boy, this conversation is getting hot because

772
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: as much as everyone's giving them props. It always comes

773
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: off to me as if black analysts and personalities that

774
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: are saying this, including Deon Sanders, that we're buying into

775
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: an inferiority complex that we're buying into, like thank you

776
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Skip for hooking us up, like we want to go

777
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: hook ourselves up, like we couldn't get hooked up no

778
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: other way other than you're good and you're black, not

779
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: just good enough. I just don't want to have that

780
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: circulating through me. I don't want to digest that. Skip

781
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Bayless with intention is looking out for black people because

782
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: they're black. These are key. Shot Johnson is a personality.

783
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: Khawn Jonson wrote a book as a rookie sucker. Just

784
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: give me the damn ball. He's a nut, he's funny,

785
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: he good, dude, does his job well right, Dion Sander's

786
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: next level. Come onst I'm playing.

787
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: Michael Irving lights up every room. Richard Sherman better broadcaster,

788
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: would have help it than he is without and he's

789
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: great without but with one. Oh my god, Like admit it.

790
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: When Richard Sherman's saying, you're like, I don't who is

791
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: like Charles Barkley, move over, like you know what I mean?

792
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted to stop down on that because what

793
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: that means to me is like, oh, it makes me

794
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: think is SKIP coming from a place of guilt. So

795
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: therefore he's trying to overcorrect because I had the flip

796
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: of it.

797
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: And guess what, I'm not trying to do.

798
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: Seek out all the white people and you say, oh,

799
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: cause they ain't got it, No, they don't.

800
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: I just I raised two that didn't.

801
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: I grew up in the neighborhood with few others, many

802
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: others who didn't. There are more poor white people in

803
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: this world than and wether in this country to stay

804
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: in this country, in this country than black people.

805
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: More. Yeah in the numbers. Yeah, not in the percentages,

806
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: but in the numbers. Yes. Man.

807
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: We get caught up in this twist sometimes y'all thank

808
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: you for the job and opportunity, like and I know,

809
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: and I get disgusted, and I know, I get really

810
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: disturbed perturbed when people are like, well, you're in an

811
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: affirmative action case. I'm like, boy, you ain't seen my

812
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: test scores, you ain't see my grades, You ain't listening

813
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: to me.

814
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: You weren't gonna get into Columbia unless you were black.

815
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: You weren't gonna get in Columbia unless you play ball,

816
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: all right. So that's where that conversation goes for me.

817
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 2: I wanted to let that out kind of RG three style.

818
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: I want to go back and play, you know, let

819
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: it out, because I heard it and I kept hearing it,

820
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: and I wonder if other people hearing.

821
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: That or I'm just like rabbit he or it like ah, man,

822
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: you're hearing too much.

823
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: But the props that Skip Bayless deserves is he has

824
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: a show, and on that show he is looking for

825
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: the most talent, the best talent. But this plays into

826
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: what I hear people when you hear criticism of Skip

827
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: Bayless in this respect, in terms of race, you hear

828
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: that he's a culture rture vulture, culture vulture, culture vulture.

829
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: He needs a black person to go against. And if

830
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: Skip is saying, nah, I just need a black person

831
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: because of how I was raised by a black person,

832
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't think either one of those is good like kIPS,

833
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm trying to put

834
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: this in this proper place because I know he's doing

835
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: a great thing in terms of stocking and staff in

836
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: his show with the best talent, but is it the

837
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: best talent or is it just the best black talent?

838
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols says like, Hey, I'm over here for but

839
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: y'all get the point.

840
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: Let's beat this up in the comments. Man, I'm trying

841
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: to learn from this one.

842
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: I want to condemn him, because, boy, the last thing

843
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: you should do. We used toart Max and I used

844
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: to always say that is never clown the fat girl

845
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: once she comes back from the gym with the sweaty wristbands.

846
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: That is a weird way of saying. If somebody trying,

847
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: let him be, though, right, he trying, so I should

848
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: let him be. But something about this doesn't set well

849
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: with me.

850
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: And I wanted to see what you.

851
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: Guys thought about it, all right, because the ain't no

852
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: firmative action over here.

853
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: Damnit. Everybody's like, yo, it ain't me, it ain't me.

854
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it is, it's you. It's you.

855
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: So let's beat that up in the comments. Tell me

856
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: what you think of this whole situation.

857
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: Did it sting you a little bit like that too,

858
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: like oh, thank you Skip for the opportunity, or did

859
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: he was like, nah, do you just reaching forward?

860
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Let me know, and what role has Skip basis really

861
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: played in promoting diversity and giving voices to athletes different backgrounds,

862
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: et cetera. Right, because it's weird people giving them all

863
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: the projects. But the first time I got on first

864
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: take wasn't because Skipped wanted me on first tape. It's

865
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: because the boss was like, Yo, we need to have

866
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: marcels on it. An audition more, Jamie Horowitz, if you

867
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: want to know, because Marcellus is good, let's see how

868
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,520
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00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: speaking of Senning somebody somewhere and no, thank you for

900
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: your support. Chase Claypool gotta go, We gotta go, We

901
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: gotta go. Chase Claypool is out of Chicago, and talk

902
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: about like all right, y'all, peace Sucker landing in Miami

903
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins.

904
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: God. First of all, Miami a better city than Chicago.

905
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: I know what y'all gonna say. Don't tell me about

906
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: the damn lake in April. Once the spring, it's amazing,

907
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: but it's about four months of great Chicago. The rest

908
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: of that time.

909
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: Come on, man, it's thirteen months of great Miami.

910
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: Devin, you better stop playing. And he played on the

911
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: Dolphins with that receiving corps in Tua. He better be right.

912
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: He better get right.

913
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: If he don't get right now, he can't get right

914
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: if he doesn't go back go for bad. A bad

915
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: situation in terms of what he made Pittsburgh, because Pittsburgh

916
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: was right for him. I know, quarterback change, young quarterback,

917
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. But bad over there. Then

918
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Chicago bad over there. First game memory when viral for

919
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: how bad he played, bad clips, everything all bad, and

920
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: they were done with him. So they got a sixth

921
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: rounder out of him, which is good because they were

922
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: done with him and he's still a big, fast, talented kid.

923
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: But something ain't right. So let me talk about what

924
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: ain't right because we don't don't know the incidents. I mean, look,

925
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: everybody seen him end of the game Minnesota doing this.

926
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: That was bad.

927
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: But there's an attitude that must be present that is

928
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: just turning people off. And I know those type of

929
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: attitudes because when it's not incident, it is attitude. It

930
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: reminds me of Antonio Bryant, if you guys remember him,

931
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: but Letting the cough winner. Talented, he didn't have a

932
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: bad attitude in terms of like what I think Chase

933
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Claypool has. He had an attitude like he just was

934
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: about I'm a ball and that's it. I don't want

935
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: to hear nothing else I got. Let me be like

936
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: that kind of attitude like I'm good.

937
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: And he was good. He was damn talented, but didn't

938
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: know the buy in.

939
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the streets were a little louder for him,

940
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: but not you know, I would just say he was like,

941
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, you know, one of those kind

942
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: of casts a little iso on his and it didn't

943
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: do well for him, and in terms of it didn't

944
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: support him in his career. You know, he didn't get

945
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: all that he could have got out of that, even

946
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: though he asked some good years in there. And we saw,

947
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: especially in Tampa, I saw man Antoni was silly. Silly,

948
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: well he was silly. Oh I gotta tell y'all One

949
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: day I'm gonna tell y'all story about Antonio. I'm gonna

950
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: protect the guilty, but it's gonna be Antonio.

951
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: This sucker. He did something amazing. One time.

952
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: I was like, god, Lee, I've told you guys about

953
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: the story of him beating up Bill Parcells. That's to

954
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: my point, Chase Slake, who ain't beat up Mike Tomlin.

955
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

956
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: He ain't beat up the Bears coach. But something to

957
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: us be wrong with his attitude. Right, So Antonio Bryant

958
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: one day, give it to you real quick, because I

959
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: get the story. A lot was running nine routes. Key

960
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: Shawn there, Key Shane like, yeah, keep running them, youngster,

961
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and he like running them. Finally he just got pissed.

962
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: He was like, men, well, Key Shan, do some of

963
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: these routes. Ain't like he don't need him or something

964
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: like that. Key showing Bill Parcells this type.

965
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: So he keep shining Bill Parcells looking back like he

966
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: ain't running nine round.

967
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Shut up, you know what I'm saying. And then finally

968
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: he he was like, I ain't doing no more, took

969
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: off his jersey, threw it on the ground, was walking off.

970
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm out deuces. I was like, damn suck.

971
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: First thing I swear, the first thing I thought was

972
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: made me laugh on the inside, was like where are

973
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: you going? You gonna quit the NFL today? Thursday? Whatever

974
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: the hell? Thursday, October seventeenth, Like where you're going? Like

975
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: it's one thing, the flex, one thing, the front, one thing,

976
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: the stunt. But where you're going? Like you quit the NFL? Anyway?

977
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: Philp ourselves follow behind him, Grab the jersey. Where you're going?

978
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: You known who you go?

979
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: Grab a jersey catching up to Antonio? That less you know,

980
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Antonio want to go nowhere? How the hell Bill Parcells

981
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: catching up to you? He don't want to go so anyway,

982
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: finally grab the jersey, throws Antonio talking you know you're

983
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: talking like you kid, Hey, hey, AI.

984
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: And throw it at him. It's a jersey. Ain't on him.

985
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 2: This sucker got in the matrix. He threw the jersey

986
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: while the jerseys in there. This suck. Antonio went down young,

987
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: grab the jersey, threw it back at him and they

988
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: hit it with a wh wh what all in one motion,

989
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: like I just did put parcels parcels stumble back like

990
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: Charlo and Canelo.

991
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: Stupid but boy being man, ah my god, dang, it's

992
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: real today. It's real NFL right here. And you know

993
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: what the NFL stands for. It stood for him not

994
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: for long. Yo, ass ain't gonna be there, but parcels

995
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: end up cutting them on the midnight on random Wednesday,

996
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: six eight weeks later.

997
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: But the point is he never got all he could

998
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: out of him because of his attitude.

999
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: Attitude is altitude how high you will fly right your attitude,

1000
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: because that's gonna help you rebound, respond and also give

1001
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: you what you need to recharge to do the task.

1002
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: Your attitude. So the pros is so crazy. I only

1003
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: brought this story up because.

1004
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: So many people always come up to me talking about

1005
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: how good somebody is, you think they could go pro.

1006
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, the pros is way more than just talent.

1007
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: Like for real, it's like attitude, professionalism, perseverance, perseverance is huge.

1008
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: You just gotta last through the process.

1009
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: When you're the man. At eight years old, you're a man.

1010
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: You're getting recruited at the snack bar. You're gonna have

1011
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: nil deal. When you're fourteen, you're gonna be eighteen. Everybody

1012
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: getting gifted cars and trucks and girls think you the cutest,

1013
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: and these girls are so pretty and they everywhere and

1014
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: they don't matter. You got money. You just gotta make

1015
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: it to the NFL. Forget how good you are. Everybody

1016
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: good that's gonna qualify, But are you gonna cross.

1017
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: That finish line?

1018
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: And when you cross that finish line, let me just

1019
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: tell you hard to reset, because it's starting over again,

1020
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: only on a greater grander level.

1021
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 2: These cats, all black belts, these streets all tempted. What's

1022
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: your attitude? You locked in or not?

1023
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: So when people want to know, how do you get

1024
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: to the NFL, to the NBA, you gotta be insanely

1025
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: talented and frankly have a great character in terms of

1026
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: finishing what you started, which is all of that talent

1027
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: in that sport, that endeavor manifesting.

1028
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: You gotta finish. And then when you get there, that

1029
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: ain't good enough. Chills, Oh you fast, good for you?

1030
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: And and what else you got?

1031
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh you're big and strong? Good and meet him too,

1032
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: him to him too, So Chase kaypool Man. I hope

1033
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: it works for him because I've been fascinated with his game,

1034
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Like a few plays, you know a few of those

1035
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh players. I was like this boy, he could be special,

1036
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: but something between here is sabotaging him.

1037
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: So what y'all think the situation is with him?

1038
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Cause I haven't heard of the incidents, and help me

1039
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: if there are incidents, I don't know did my homework.

1040
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: I was like, that ain't enough.

1041
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: The attitude is, though, and they don't always put that

1042
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: out there because they don't want to ruin the youngster.

1043
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: They don't want to give them that label all the time.

1044
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: They just say good luck to him, good luck to him,

1045
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: And what do you think his future is with the Dolphins?

1046
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: Then he gets it right here and his future in

1047
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: the NFL, because if he doesn't do it right with

1048
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I would say he would get one more chance,

1049
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: but let me tell you this, it would not be

1050
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: as good as this chance. This is gonna be his

1051
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: best chance because he goes to an offensive team that's

1052
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna throw that football, gonna have tour and he got

1053
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: the mastermind. You got an offensive mind, mastermind at coach.

1054
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, come on, bro, no mess up. And

1055
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: you in Miami, boy, you better stop.

1056
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: Playing with me.

1057
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: Let me get traded to Miami. Let me find out.

1058
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: I'll be like RG three, right, here, I'll be like, man,

1059
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I love never shut up. I love doing what I'm doing.

1060
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm good. My foundation is kicking. Oh, I ain't never

1061
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL again. You stop playing, boy, you

1062
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: know how much it hurt my knee. Y'all, ain't the Dolphins.

1063
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: I ain't lie if the Dophins, I ain't playing in

1064
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: it NFL again. But if the Dolphins call, we'll have

1065
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: to see what they talking about. All right, let's fuk

1066
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: up from comics. Let's fuk up from comics. Yeah, talk

1067
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: about McAfee from yesterday. All right, Pat McAfee. I think

1068
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: it's just a part of what kind man y'all gotta

1069
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: proof free y'all comments make me sound eating it up here.

1070
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: I think it's just a part of what kind of

1071
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: times we live in. It's just easier and more convenient

1072
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: to watch content like this online.

1073
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: You right.

1074
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: My kids do not watch TV unless it's Thursday night football,

1075
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: unless it's Saturday morning football, unless Sunday football, unless it's

1076
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: Monday night football, I swear.

1077
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: And the rest is pepper pig. And that's online too, dammit.

1078
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they watching Disney, they watching Frozen, they watching that.

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Speaker 1: But seriously, they do not watch shows, They're gonna watch shows.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of watching shows, watch me next week, I

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Speaker 1: think Wednesday, Will of Fortune, celebrity Will of Fortune.

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Speaker 2: I'm on there. Check me out see if I won.

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Speaker 2: How much I want?

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Speaker 1: All right, and let's talk about this one. I like

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Speaker 1: to watch a whole bunch of pat shows in real

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Speaker 1: times sometimes, but I really like to see the segments

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Speaker 1: I like with certain co.

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Speaker 2: Stars that show up.

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Speaker 1: Their editors are very good and serving out pretty sizable

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Speaker 1: chunks of their show. ESPN is benefiting a lot because

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Speaker 1: I'm watching actual ESPN content from their other stars, because

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Speaker 1: it's showing up at the top of my recommendation list

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Speaker 1: now and I've never.

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Speaker 2: Used to see it. M okay, cross promoting there.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's good to be on that big platform,

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Speaker 1: because you get to get all that big to help.

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Speaker 2: Make your big bigger.

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Speaker 1: That's how it goes FS one what Hell's first things

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Speaker 1: first is Wild's background as a producer, preach. It helps

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Speaker 1: with the subject choices, and the show is like hearted, yes, yes, yes, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then there's another long comment. Damn is comment too long?

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Speaker 2: But basically I give it to you like this first

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Speaker 2: things versus at the top of their game because of

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Speaker 2: a few things. The chemistry feel so organic. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Great's great. Great. The show's biggest problem is topic burnout.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. A lot of y'all like that comment. Yeah, Skip,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they always like that same ass topics.

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, dog, are the Cowboys best team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? Are the Cowboys one of the top five

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL? Will the Cowboys make the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Like if they top five? If they the best team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Alright, let's go here, Marshawan.

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Speaker 1: The wild part was Marshan tried to holler at Rush

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Speaker 1: through player personnel because he didn't have his numbers, so

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Speaker 1: Russ called him from a block number. What type of

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00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: shit was that? I know people that represent Russ too,

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Speaker 1: They the homies, real tight.

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Speaker 2: Russ different. But I knew Russ was different. I met him.

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Speaker 1: He was a rookie, and I met him at the

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Speaker 1: party we taught for a minute, and I was like

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Speaker 1: two things. Either he corny, which is fine because I'm

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00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: corny and I'm a nerd, but I'm a corny nerd

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Speaker 1: he's just corny. Or turnaround, big dog, Why why should

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Speaker 1: I turn around.

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Speaker 2: Because I see a string and you're just saying the

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00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: same damn thing, like dog, relax.

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Speaker 1: Like I just want to go up to him one

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Speaker 1: day and just go like this, grab his traps, relax, talk,

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Speaker 1: be normal, go hawks, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing. But so what, I don't mind

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Speaker 2: him being corner.

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Speaker 1: It's just like he locked up. He like a prisoner

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Speaker 1: of himself. He's stuck in the corn stalk. Come on,

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Speaker 1: big dog, All right, ch'all we got any more? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got Kelsey Swift right here. We have no problem

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Speaker 1: with it. We just don't want you to make it

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00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: seem like she's bigger than the game. Okay, I respect that.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one, Wiley, I agree with you. Okay, that's it.

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00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: He agree with you.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all know we finished every show we finished

1141
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Speaker 2: for the White lee Is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Coach used to always say get your head out the

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Speaker 1: parking lot every Friday, the men because he knew I

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Speaker 1: was in them streets.

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Speaker 2: I was ready to go.

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Speaker 1: All right, what you know you are still learning? Does

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00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: that make you feel good? What you know you are

1148
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: still learning?

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Speaker 2: My two biggest issues I have right now, and I'm learning.

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Speaker 2: You know me, Yeah, I know me. Dammit.

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00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: It's like them people over there trying to clown Candice Owens,

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Speaker 1: the transgender people and what was it.

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00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: By non binary gender people? They all trying to.

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Speaker 1: Cloun I know myself, I know what I am. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I know myself too. But guess what,

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00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, still learning. I gotta work on this one,

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00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: becoming more attached. I told myself this morning, attach yourself

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Speaker 1: to more things. Dick Buckets rest in peace to great

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: dick Puss Dick Buckets, who died yesterday in his sleep

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Speaker 1: at the age of eighty. And my dad is seventy six.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, attach myself to my dad now. I can't

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: lie to y'all. So there's times where I call my

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00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: dad and I'm like, go see him, and I'm like, nah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go do this, And i'd be like, you

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Speaker 1: better force yourself to go see him because hes about

1166
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Speaker 1: to die soon, right whatever soon is four years, ten

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Speaker 1: years years, it ain't fifty years. Let's just say that, right,

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Speaker 1: And then I'll be like a little scared to like

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Speaker 1: just keep the like cause one day you're gonna call,

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Speaker 1: he ain't gonna answer.

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Speaker 2: One day, he ain't gonna call.

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Speaker 1: You, you know, And I'm like, damn, be more attached,

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Speaker 1: Like deal with the pain that will come. But don't

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Speaker 1: try and distance yourself so you think you're gonna deal

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Speaker 1: better with that pain.

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Speaker 2: Catch me. I gotta work on that. Another thing I

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Speaker 2: gotta work on it. Stopped eating McDonald's late. Oh man,

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Speaker 2: I'm still learning. No matter what, you know, you still

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Speaker 2: learn it right yourself. Like you know, it ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: eat that Nigga d last and now that boy I

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00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: hate that thing. At like twelve o'clock up in the drive,

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Speaker 2: we were gonna go to Chick fil A. They were closed.

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, that sounded kind of healthy,

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 1: even though it's hell of salty on them. Damn little

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00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: little wing tips. They be having whatever they have, the

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00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: little balls. So then I'm like, damn, go home, just chill.

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Speaker 1: You ain't that hungry.

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: It just locked in.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I just came out from a party, gotta

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Speaker 1: eat something. And then Niggi Dee's was right there, bright

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Speaker 1: ass yellow down, just calling me. I sound like they're saying, Mama, Marcellas,

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Speaker 1: come on.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, here I go.

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Speaker 1: So what you know, you are still learning. I hate

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Speaker 1: a stubborn person, even though I love a person of conviction.

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Speaker 1: That's why I love this show because I don't want

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Speaker 1: to debate shit.

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Speaker 2: I want to discuss. I want to talk about both sides.

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Speaker 2: And let's move it this way a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 2: like you doing furniture. You'll go to your boy. All right, man,

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Speaker 2: let's go Okay, you can see and he can't. He

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Speaker 2: going backwards. You go to the right, a little to

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Speaker 2: the right. You're right, not my right. That's that's life

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Speaker 2: to me. Man.

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Speaker 1: We all gotta grab this damn couch and help each

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Speaker 1: other instead of like pick up the couch of drop it.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I don't want a debate. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to do it. Yes or no.

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Speaker 1: No, let's a little that way. Man, Skip is doing

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Speaker 1: the right thing helping out black people. Eh, he ain't

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01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: really helping out black people like that. He shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: just helping out black people because they're black. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: he would a gatekeeper. What is that white guilt?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. Sorry, seems like y'all

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Speaker 1: want me to do it too. You don't believe me,

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Speaker 1: don't believe me. Just watch Love for you guys. Man,

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Speaker 1: so yourself everything in this world. Man, just remember what

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01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: you know. You're still learning, all right, y'all. That'll do it.

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Speaker 1: For More to It, check the show notes for all

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Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today.

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Speaker 2: Want to keep the conversation go on, Let's talk. Find

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Speaker 2: me on all socials at Marcel's.

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Speaker 1: Wiley More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production

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Speaker 1: That Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced

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Speaker 1: by Dan Patrick, Marcell's Whially Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella.

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Speaker 1: membership to Wiley's World on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Keep it coming because there's more coming from More to It.

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Speaker 2: Talk to y'all hell a soon