1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, you Leon had done a great job of 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: putting the team together and now it's time to mesh. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: And you know, in New York there's so much excitement. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you just want it now, now, now, 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: But they don't realize. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: That this is New Yorkers are like that, Yeah exactly. 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, but this is something that you know, like 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: you said, the first year, and we're going to continue 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: to build. And I think that's like, you know, it 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: takes time to everyone to mesh, and especially you know 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: with Kat coming in, you know, right before training camp. 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: It's not like we had a whole summer too, you know, 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: connect with him and build camaraderie with him. So it 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: was relatively new, so he didn't. 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: He didn't practice the first couple of practices because it 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: wasn't the trail had and gone through yet. 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean that. 18 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Put us, I don't want to say put us behind 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: the ball, but like it delayed us a little bit. 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: And you still came out of the box pretty hot. Yeah, 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: it was. 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: I mean there are games where we look like, all right, 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: this seems any good, and there were games is like 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: all right, what are we doing? 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: I think So like I think we're five and six 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 4: at one point, was. 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 5: That when the Utah loss was that early like that 28 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 5: first games? 29 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Probably yah, yeah yeah yeah. Also couldn't breathe, Yeah yeah, elevation. 30 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, going to Utah is never that's never a fun 31 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: fun game. But it was like, you know, they were 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: in that first ten fifteen games, like you could see 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: like there were spurts where it's like, okay, we see 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: what we kind of have, but like they just weren't 35 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: consistent throughout, and the consistency is the one that takes 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the time. Everyone just sees the spurts and they're like, oh, 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: this is what it's supposed to be, or just like 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: it takes time, it takes going through adversity to build 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: that that can you know, connectiveness. 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 6: I think the fans see it, h you know, a 41 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 6: little like you see it. I mean, they don't have 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 6: to do what you have to do, right, but I 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 6: think they see it. Yeah, right, and they see that. 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 6: That's why I think they're so excited, right, and yes, 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 6: they want it yesterday. 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 5: I mean you said it in the last show. But 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: this just feels, at least to you guys, like the 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 5: first season in a little while where there's been like real, 49 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: like real real expectations, and obviously you're feeling kind of 50 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: like the double edged nature of that sword, right, the 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: good and the bad. It's like when you guys win 52 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: a few games, it's like the Nexter Contenders. You lose 53 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: a few games, the next a fraud, you know what 54 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: I mean. 55 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: That's like I said that you can't either you listen 56 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: to both and that you internalize it, or like you 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: just you block out both. Like you can't just listen 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: to the positive and think all I'm not gonna think 59 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: listen to the negative. It doesn't work like that, because 60 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna build up like the negative so 61 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: much that you're gonna have it, just gonna have a 62 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, like what Josh does. 63 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: What's it? Crash out half the time? I crash out 64 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 4: that much. 65 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been even very good this year, even really 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: good this year. You almost had one last night on 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: the bench. 68 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the only they this year. Josh Last Sniper's eight. Yeah, 69 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: I think so that's that's not bad compared to what 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 4: you usually have. 71 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: Josh Last Sniper's letting his voice be heard, and a 72 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: bunch of just had to tell him like shut the 73 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: funk up because he was going to get attacked at 74 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: some point. And he came back after you know, every group, 75 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: get his emotions back, and he played well the rest 76 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: of the game. 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: He started a game pretty well. But did you know why? 78 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: Yes, trust me, I understand, I fully understand. But let's 79 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: let's just let's stay away, because. 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 6: Well, how much does the referees and the calls motivate 81 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 6: you in a game? I mean, because I've seen I 82 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 6: mean you particularly, right, I mean somebody asked to come 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 6: in practically with like you know, like an uzzi before 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 6: they're willing to call a foul. I mean how much? 85 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 6: And then how much does that make you want to 86 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 6: try harder? 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Right? How much does it distract you from from your play? 88 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: I mean play hard. I think all think it makes 89 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: us play harder. 90 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: I think depending on what the foul is, if we're 91 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: getting if we got a foul called on us versus 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: like us trying to get a call. Like sometimes you 93 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: gotta play smarter because like I have two fouls, I 94 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: can't be reckless, yeah, or they're not calling some touch 95 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: fouls like all right now, I just gotta be stronger 96 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: going to the basket or with the ball or whatever. 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: It's like sometimes it's a different mindset. Like everyone thinks 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: there's no consistency to the game, but different refs. Ref 99 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: game is different, So a different game could be less 100 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: physical or more physical than the last. 101 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 4: And so. 102 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 6: That Portland game, what the Portland Cleveland game? You know 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: how many fouls they called them the Portland clean games? 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Well last night, yeah I have this right. 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: I think they're called seventy fouls. 106 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: Really can look that up out their hacking. 107 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 7: How I feel total total, I feel like there's always 108 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 7: in terms of officiating, there's three different ways like during 109 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 7: all over the course of the season the games officiated, 110 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 7: because you have like the first beginning of the season 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 7: where it's like point of emphasis, like happens, yeah, like 112 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 7: they you know, they kind. 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 6: Of do it comes out and says we're gonna we're 114 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 6: gonna focus on on double dribbles. We're going to focus 115 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 6: on five second inbounds rightly, and all of a sudden. 116 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: Spurt you see a bunch of a whole bunch and 117 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 4: then after like. 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not it dies down. 119 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: And then usually after like all Star, like when it's 120 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: like getting ready for playoffs, they let you be a 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: little bit more physical because obviously playoff basketball, the physicality 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: is through the roof. So I think it's just like 123 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: you have to one know that, but also to have 124 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: the like the connectiveness to be able to hold each 125 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: other accountable on it, because like as JB says, sometimes 126 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: I crash out or like if I feel like, you know, 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get a foul called or something like, I'm 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: liable to like go off. And I think that's where 129 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: like we have the what's starting to get like the 130 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: connectedness of like yo, Josh, shut the hell up, like 131 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: they're not calling it, go play. 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: So I mean I had that connection correct, Yeah. 133 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: But like it's different with like cal will still have 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: it like O G. Yeah, cat cats a little bit 135 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: like me with with the crash not as bad, but like. 136 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: We have that. But fifty three foul calls. 137 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 6: Fifty three fifty three foul calls, which is absurd, seventy trips. 138 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: To the line probably probably right, but that's a lot. 139 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: I was just going to say, this is random, but 140 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: that eight second call last night against Miami is an 141 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: incredible call. Huge, Like I'm obviously I'm not I'm watching them. 142 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 5: I'm like it's it's not even occurring to me to 143 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 5: be counting because no one was pressuring Teller here in 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 5: the back court. But the fact of the ref call 145 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: that was like, obviously this huge momentum shift too. That 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 5: was a great call. 147 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was, it was right, It technically was. 148 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 149 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 150 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 6: After after you guys went up five, I was pretty 151 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 6: confident you're gonna win, right, no matter what the referee. 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we want to five. 153 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: That alex Burg hit that three, I'm like, and it 154 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: wasn't even like a clean three. It was like, uh, 155 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: it was just like hesitation. 156 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: I was at my my foul, but the misshot and 157 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: it went out of balance. 158 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, call that foul. Yeah. 159 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: The best time of the year is almost here for 160 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: all you college basketball fans. 161 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: Remember that, Josh, yes, sir two sixteen NAT of Champs. 162 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen, Uh, just cool. 163 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: But there's twenty eighteen for me for. 164 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 5: Sure, easy, easy forget twenty sixteen. Twenty eighteen. 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