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Speaker 1: that's one thing I understood from early on. It's like

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00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: the emotional connection with music to me, which is always

427
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: the most important thing, which is why I love on

428
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: and be like you feel that connection. But but but

429
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: then it was just more like back to like being

430
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: a kid of going to your friends and being like yo,

431
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: check out, check this out and like who's this, Like yeah,

432
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: that's Jermaine, Like oh light skin Jermin't really rapped, like

433
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: it was a strike to be able to put niggas

434
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: own ship. So that's kind of what I was doing.

435
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: And I think as I was doing that, he just

436
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: started trust in my ear because that's really all work relationship,

437
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm his manager, but like all work relate ship

438
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: was really like we spent years and years like putting

439
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: projects together like he would he would trust me to

440
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: be like yo, remember that verse you had on that beat,

441
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: Like you should try it on this beat, but like,

442
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: oh God out there, Like that's kind of like when

443
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: my love really came in. As the years grew and

444
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: I was working with him, it kind of allowed me

445
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: to gain my confidence on how to like, um, you know,

446
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: communicate with artists and producers on like how can this

447
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: can be better? You know without without exactly without being

448
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: like this trash like nigga, who are you to tell

449
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: me that trade? You should make the music? Like so

450
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: I understood that, and I think he he trusted that,

451
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: and he don't trust a lot of people. So so

452
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: we just kept going to the studio and building and

453
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: it was just fun, like it was mad fun, like

454
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: just he would make songs and send it to me

455
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, damn, this is fine, Like you know,

456
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: he enjoyed. He enjoyed getting that air and their feedback.

457
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: And then I was like, yo, we should do a mixtape.

458
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: So we did, like to come up mixape, just kind

459
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: of put it together like you know, try like went

460
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: to A and T and was selling it at home coming. Yeah,

461
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: we pressed them up with whatever little money we had

462
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: together because at this point too, like he's now graduated

463
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: that he's dead broke because his whomates moved out, so

464
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: he's staying in Queens and he's like he's dimned that

465
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: begging his landlord like y'all gonna pay you back, like

466
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: his landlord with the man he laying money pile up.

467
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: And during that time co would literally have like he

468
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: honestly just had money for one meal a day and

469
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: he used to time his meal for like five pm

470
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: because he's like that. So he was just saying home,

471
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: make beach whatever, and like and I would come home.

472
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: My pops were still like holding me down with Brad.

473
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't really have a job. So I'll make sure

474
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: he good, you know what I mean. We'll split the sandwich,

475
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: keep it moving. So we would find money to press

476
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: the CDs up and Uh, his best friend r J

477
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: went to Uh he used to go to North Carolina

478
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: at that went to U n CG. So he he

479
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: co went to North Carolina anti home coming every year

480
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: like in North Carolina that ship that's religious, like you

481
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, So I went with him

482
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: one year and and and we had to come up.

483
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: We pressed it up and and the whole thing was

484
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: like that was our sales pitch was like, Yo, if

485
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: I try to sell you this for five dollars, you're

486
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: not gonna buy it. If I give it to you

487
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: for free, you're just gonna throw it away. Just give

488
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: me a dollar at least. I know if you give

489
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: me a dollar, you gonna listen to one song that

490
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: was kind of a whole a whole dollar in the

491
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: dream thing. That's how it started. So we was like

492
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: on the strip trying to sell ship for a dollar

493
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: and uh, and girls will be like and it was

494
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: fun because it's like you're talking to girls. You're talking

495
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: to these niggas like trying to convince him because it'll

496
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: be like, how do I know he could rap? I'm like, yo,

497
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: come overhead me him. Mike, the same nigga is you

498
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: know now, like he'll rap for you right now. He

499
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: started rapping it, but like, oh he nice, he's five dollars,

500
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Like it was fun, Like every we found fun and everything,

501
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: even though niggas was broke in not knowing where it

502
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: was gonna end up twenty two, I'm like, I'm probably

503
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: like twenty three. He's probably around now because he had

504
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: just graduated. Um, I didn't finish school, but I had.

505
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: I was already out of school, and I was I'm

506
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna year older than him. So it was around that age, Um,

507
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, young enough and we can still go to

508
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: home coming and not looking like the creeps, you know

509
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: what I mean. So so it was cool and m

510
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, we just kept going from there.

511
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: That's kind of how the music relationships store. Even then,

512
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna like work in music

513
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: because I had no everyone I know that that's in

514
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: the music industry had like an internship at the label

515
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: or like you know, kind of came up under someone.

516
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm just here to help my nigger,

517
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Like I just want to see you win. So what

518
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: you've been from Queens though, was ch in hip hop. Yeah,

519
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: we can go down of how many amazing artists have

520
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: come out of Queens. You knew none of these people though, No,

521
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: not one. Queen's bich know, nobody's manager, nobody's I knew

522
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Irv Gott So remember I told you when I graduated

523
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: high school, my my high school team coming up, it

524
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: was like it was like the second best league in

525
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: like America. At that time. We were like towards the

526
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: bottom of the league. But I was right saying, Raymond's

527
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Cross the kid. You know, I played at Holy Cross.

528
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: So like when I graduated, I went back and was

529
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: like assistant coaching for the team. And our point guard

530
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: who played with Blaze Blaze French my Dog and um

531
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: Sylvan Landisburg. They don't want that like got us. Our

532
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: first city Chip point guard was IRV Gotti's nephew, so

533
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: they came to every game, Irving Chris. They came to

534
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: every game so I would see them. I even gave

535
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I think I think it was Chris Gotty that I

536
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: gave a CD two of Colds like to come up

537
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: when we was just trying. So like that's like the

538
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: only thing I had seen I had seen like growing

539
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: up are when I was in high school, our star player.

540
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: He's from south Side, so like, yeah, yo, thanks. Then

541
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: used to come to the game and it would see

542
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: me on the av and be like, oh, number twenty

543
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: two was good like that. It was just like I

544
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: seen him from Afar. But I didn't know your Queens

545
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: is huge, you know what I mean. Like Queens, I

546
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: remember seeing something like if it was a city, would

547
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: be the seventh most populated city in America. You know,

548
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: like these boroughs got like two million people in them,

549
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like when I'm

550
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: from it's like you know people through basketball, but I

551
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: didn't really know, Like I didn't know fifty in them.

552
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know NAS's team, you know what I mean.

553
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: NASA is in Queens birth. That ship is so far

554
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: from where I'm at, you know what I mean. It's

555
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: like it's like a different world, damn there. So so no,

556
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone um. The closest I would see

557
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: it was maybe like stack Bundles and like the deather

558
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Storm dudes, because I grew up like really loving that

559
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: era of music. But I didn't know nobody, you know

560
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you have nothing at this point,

561
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: Like you said, you have no sights on being in

562
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: the music business. Even though you out there it's just

563
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: you and your guys slanging mixtapes, You're still not like

564
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm on the label, I'm about to be No.

565
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: What it was was just like it's what you was

566
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: talking about, what I was saying. I connected with that.

567
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: It's like I just want to see him when I understood,

568
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: like how can I help you get to what you're

569
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: supposed to get? And I found joying that, you know

570
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I didn't care. I knew that

571
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: if I did those things, like I would be rewarded somehow,

572
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like I would be

573
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: taking care of if I really put my my thoughts

574
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: into something, and you know, like that's like it's not selfish,

575
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. For me, it was like, yeah,

576
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: I see what you're trying to get. If I can help,

577
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to help. That was like the basis

578
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: of it, Like if I get help, I'm trying to

579
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have a blueprint, you didn't have a way in,

580
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: nobody knew where to go. We we're gonna sell these

581
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: thanks for a dollar. See what happened and eventually Cold

582
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: was like I think it was cold and would be like, Yo,

583
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna do label, like once we get on,

584
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because because at that point

585
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: it's like we grew up, you know, rocket fill of love,

586
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: bad boys, so like that's just what you do and

587
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: you get on and you started label. Are you feeling

588
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: any of the African pressure? You gotta go be a doctor?

589
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: I always get that. I always my best friend. I

590
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: always get my dad, some my mom a lot of

591
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: props because they never really forced like those weights, like

592
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: they will be disappointing, like yo, what are you doing

593
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: with your life? But like I'm gonna trust you, but

594
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't really know if this is gonna work, but

595
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust you. It was never like you have

596
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: to do this like you have to. Of course, I'm

597
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: sure it was disappointed when I didn't finish school, you

598
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, or like when I tell them

599
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be doing this. But they also knew

600
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Cold Cold used to be in my crib, so they

601
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: know that this is a good it's a good kid.

602
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: It's not like some dumb ship. But um, it's funny

603
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: because I remember you were at the garden one year

604
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: I Boss was opening up. It was either the theater

605
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: or the actual arena, and my dad was like he

606
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: came to the show and he told us, man that

607
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: did they grow up? Was like, I guess you'll was right,

608
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: was right, but he never It was never the feeling

609
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: of like you have to do that. It was kind

610
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: of like, I don't think you should be doing what

611
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: you're doing, but like you don't have to pick your

612
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: own destiny kind of thing. And I think that gave

613
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: me enough of a leeway to be like, you know,

614
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: let me try this out, um, but that that pressure

615
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: is definitely there. Did you have that, because you know,

616
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: my my my father wanted me and music very very

617
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh if I don't if I do music,

618
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: y'all think I'm crazy, Like did that happen for you?

619
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: My pressure was church. You're from like a church from

620
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: from church. So my pressure was just whatever I do

621
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: to be in church, you know, whatever you want to do,

622
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want to come back to the church. But

623
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: I see, I'm so you know, venturing out into r

624
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: and b land, you know, even going back and saying

625
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: saying the sports in the sports world like my parents

626
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: first generation everything, you know what I mean. So my

627
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: parents were just very like you know, you playing basketball, okay,

628
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: good luck with that. Playing football? Cool, good luck with that.

629
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: Like my parents didn't come up. No, I think my

630
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: parents senior night where you gotta like show up with

631
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: your parents. My parents, it's not like you said, that's

632
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: not there, that's not their culture, it's not where they're from.

633
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I broke my collarbone. When the day I broke my

634
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: collarbone in football, my father was at that game, right,

635
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: So father comes out of the feelings that you think

636
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: it's broke, I don't know what. Probably let's get you

637
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: into the hospital, like very matter of fact, that's what

638
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: it is. Like what else you want me to tell you?

639
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna fix it. I So, you know, when

640
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: it came to the music and things finally happens, like

641
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: what you said with your father, like I think with

642
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: my father, we connected more when when I accepted my

643
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: responsibility of myself. You know what I'm saying, When I

644
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: became a man, then my father was like, Okay, now

645
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: we can have real conversations because you're a man now

646
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying. And then It's like,

647
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: are you come from the household of grown men don't

648
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: talk to kids? That's how I came up. I was

649
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: having this conversation actually with cod was Cole got to

650
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: a space where he was like, basically he got to

651
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: a point at one point it was like we just

652
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: wanted to ask questions. He started really like diving into

653
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: asking his mom questions and his dad question and why

654
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: they say, you know, trying to get an understand of everything.

655
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: I remember being like, I've never really asked my dad

656
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: any questions to me. It was like, you're my dad.

657
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I love you, you you take care of the kids. I

658
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: respect you, but it's like we're not friends. Were like,

659
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I can have that conversation like how was it back

660
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: when you was growing up? Like I don't know any

661
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 1: of them, and my father was sit on the same

662
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: couch for a whole Saturday. Exactly. Didn't I say to

663
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: now that I got kids? I got kids, But but

664
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: it's just like they our fathers were iron man exactly.

665
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like there was an actual

666
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: kids table. Yeah, you know what I'm saying about my house,

667
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: there was a kids like the kids did you say that?

668
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: Over there? Always end up eating. It's not a small

669
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, yea for it too. It's just what they

670
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: learned kids, and like the adults, you didn't. We wasn't

671
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: an adult conversation. But like I said, again, with us

672
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: being first generation everything, once I finally became a man,

673
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: then it became okay, now we can build, and now

674
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: I can ask your questions. Like I remember one time

675
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: my father like, so, how's your publishing treaty? I said, Dad,

676
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that's not your publishing publishings. Yeah, yeah, how's your publishing.

677
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: They talked, they talked to you, tell you anything, but

678
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you. Yeah, publicIt, public publishing, published. And

679
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: my grandmother being a pastor. You know what I'm saying.

680
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: You know you you expect certain blowback. When my grandmother

681
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: was just like, that's my grandson. You know what I mean.

682
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm so proud. My mama, same thing. Yeah, I see

683
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: your boy, I see you doing your thing. They didn't

684
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: know what it was. They just showed up on the

685
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: video set the stuff blowing up, so they never got

686
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: a chance to see you with genuine Yeah they did. Yeah,

687
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: they got to see because I remember was on TV.

688
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: We was on TV. We did the Keen and every

689
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Way and show, And that's the famous time where I

690
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: licked my lips when they put the camera in a

691
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: it was it was trash, right. I was still working

692
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: on it, but the camera caught me. And when I

693
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: got back off to and went back to the church,

694
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: just all people's time about we saw you licking your lip. Yeah,

695
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: past it was like we got we got derailed back.

696
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: He's back from off the TV screen being provocative a man,

697
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: He's back. I'm thinking of like the first time they've

698
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: seen that that maybe I deserve video on one those

699
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: six it was like yo, what because that was such

700
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: a big moment, you know what I mean, like like

701
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: everyone remembers that moment. I'm pretty sure it was kind

702
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: of like oh, this church in with no shirt on

703
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: this ship, like you know what? Different? It was different.

704
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: It was, but like I said, from from your family,

705
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: have us having a certain expectation and my family having

706
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: a certain expectation. They were they were They were very

707
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: lenient with how they oppressed it. I'm saying. So it

708
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: wasn't like direct support of what I was doing, but

709
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: they weren't fighting on it. But when you get older,

710
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: you realize that point that is because if somebody fights

711
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: you on it, ship probably doesn't even happen, you know

712
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, that's a good as question

713
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: because because it's just it's just everybody has their path

714
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: and how it plays out, and which leads to my

715
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: next question. Man like, and this is something that's I

716
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: think it's the reason why you and I have always

717
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: been so cool and so close and have an understanding

718
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: with each other because I know you faced this best

719
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: friend management. That's just tough, right, It's I would never

720
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: trade it for anything, No, not at all. But coming

721
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: up you understand it's like it's a different like you're

722
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: not here, right, it's a different you are my manager.

723
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: Best friend management, It's it's a different. Um it really

724
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: best friend management wasn't as hard as like running the

725
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: company with your friends. That was a little harder. But

726
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: with Cole, I think, I think when I when I

727
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: got to that manager, because I didn't really get like,

728
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: became officially manager until before force it was drive. You know,

729
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: he was managed by Mark Pint, But I think, what

730
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: what that would Having their relationship with Cole and being

731
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: so close allowed him to give me room for error,

732
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: which somebody else might not you know what I mean,

733
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Like he allowed me to learn on the job, and

734
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: I will I can get a call from like hey, nigga,

735
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: you can't do this, or like hey, then you need

736
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: to answer these people. I don't want them hearing me. Alright, cool,

737
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: let me let me adjust, you know what I mean.

738
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Somebody else might have been like a bro, I got

739
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: time for this ship, you out of here, you know

740
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was honestly just having that

741
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: conversation with we're all about something like you know, if

742
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: if cole decided to fire me the first time he

743
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: didn't like something, then I would have been out the game.

744
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: When the reality is always look at it like you

745
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: know when managers, I really look at it. With any

746
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: relations in life, it's like, ain't nobody perfect. So if

747
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: you if somebody has a lot of good traits and

748
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: they have some traits you don't like, just be willing

749
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: to work through that instead of being like, oh I

750
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: don't like how you do this, You're you're gone, you

751
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I feel like having that

752
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: relationship with cole Um allowed us to like allow me

753
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: to be able to grow, you know what I mean,

754
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and then also allowed me to be able to say

755
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: things to him that maybe somebody else wouldn't be able

756
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: to say, you know what I mean. So it was like,

757
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: it's tough because you're you're in a position where you

758
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: don't want to let your client down, but you also

759
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: don't want to let you nigger down. That's a different like,

760
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: that's a different perspective, but to me, it's definitely way

761
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: more pluses than negative. Now, running a company with your

762
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: friends is a little tougher because it's tougher to you know,

763
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: like when I say run the company with with your friends,

764
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: it wasn't just cold. Like Adam was Cole's roommate as

765
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: freshman year. You know Derek who manages Boss, I've known

766
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: since he was a kid in high school. Felton was

767
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: one of the first people we met, and Industry Maddie

768
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: and you know him and MK manage are Maddie I

769
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: knew since he was like fourteen. You know, MK we

770
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: met because she was like interning at with more pits

771
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: in the wh we first. So like that dynamic is

772
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: a little tougher because you really love these people, so

773
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to do anything that can you know,

774
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: so accountability because of those relationships right, because in our community,

775
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: which is terrible, we're talked to go outside of ourselves

776
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: where we gotta go, which ultimately is self defeating because

777
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is that if we do this,

778
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: if we do this thing together, we're that much more

779
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: powerful for sure, and we're going to hold each other down.

780
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: It's something that you said earlier about how you were

781
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: like man when when Cole was trying to figure out

782
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: he was eating once one meal a day, that you

783
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: would make sure if y'all got to split the sandwich.

784
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: Me and him talk about this all the time, Like

785
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: we jokingly were like, bro, we would split a happy meal. Yeah,

786
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: if we had, if we had to know that's right, bro,

787
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: come on to give you these six fries. And we

788
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: used to we we used to want to go first

789
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: of all, A big part of me and cold relationships.

790
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: We both love to like go to the club, like

791
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: that's really how we bond it. We used to like

792
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: the New York clubs. We used to go for the

793
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: free before twelve and you get like one drink before

794
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: twelve and then and then we have enough money, We're

795
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: about one long hall of night sea because we knew

796
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: it was a short and split like yo, like yo, God,

797
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: like you know you got to split a low key

798
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: p yeah, but like you know, that's like it was always.

799
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that obviously y'all have that when

800
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: you're when you're working with someone that close to you,

801
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna figure it out. You're gonna be willing to

802
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: figure that. And that's what it was with It's like

803
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: we're gonna figure it out because it means more then

804
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: dollars and cents, you know what I mean. It's like, bro,

805
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: like this ship means a lot more to it. So

806
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: so I think that's the beauty of it, you really,

807
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely way more plusant than anything because

808
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I feel like you're willing to run through a wall

809
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: for someone like that, you know what I mean, like

810
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: somebody else you might be like. And that's because it's

811
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: like the the the intent of a human right when

812
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: it come when it pertains to somebody, you know, you

813
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you can bet on that

814
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: more than you can bet on anything like this is

815
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: I know this guy for sure, what I'm saying, I

816
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: know him exactly. You know what I'm saying, And you

817
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: know we know we know our friends that are bullshitters,

818
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that that we like, Okay,

819
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: all right, just just make him the janitor. We know

820
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: where to put those guys are. But our our friends

821
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: that we know are hard workers, you know what I'm saying,

822
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: and and and smart people and just need the time

823
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: to figure out. This conversation with so many artists I've

824
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: had because like I calls the only artists I've ever managed,

825
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: and that our plan on ever managing, Like I've all

826
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: the artists I sign, I've like played whatever role I can't.

827
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: It's like the facto managing they turned artists. See. It's

828
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: because to me, like managing is also like you know,

829
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: you gotta be really dedicated, you know what I mean.

830
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, how can you dedicate yourself to nine

831
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: different acts? Like I don't, I don't understand it. I

832
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do it, but I always

833
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with artists that we're on an

834
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: artists that are starting. I'm like, yo, if there's someone

835
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: on your team that you feel like even has something

836
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: that they will that they like, they work hard, and

837
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: they're willing to figure it out, you better off empowering

838
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: them then looking for that manager because to me, it's

839
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: like I've seen it a million times, like y'all managed

840
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: by Blah blah Blah's management company, and then it's like

841
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: now you managed by nigga at work there if that

842
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: nigga don't give a funk that nigga is like you

843
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he like, you know whatever

844
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: exactly he's on the golf course. Yeah, yeah, Mike about that?

845
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: What does he get out? I don't think we should

846
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: do it. I'll show up when he when he when

847
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: he's getting out of jail his paperwork. Yeah, I don't

848
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: think we should do it. But it's always a j uh.

849
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: Are you for taking on, undertaking anymore or the endeavors?

850
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even really know. I can't say

851
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: it and be like, I know what the future of

852
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: our label holes, because if I'm gonna be honest, I

853
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: don't actually even want to sign any more artists, Like

854
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to dedicate what I can

855
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: to these artists, to give them as far as they

856
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: could or as far as they want to. But you know,

857
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: to take on more is just taken away from them,

858
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I feel like it's

859
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: a team and so like we already got a lot

860
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: of artists, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah,

861
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: it's unfair to not only the artists, but it's unfair

862
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: to our staff to just have to so so to me,

863
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: it's like I haven't even thought of any any more artists.

864
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: I know. Cole's the saying, Um, it's just more so

865
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: like just putting these artists in the position. Because also,

866
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: like we really treat everybody has come through our doors

867
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: like family, and it's been it's but so much love,

868
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's tough to like really

869
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: just in and um and I truly genuinely love everyone

870
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: on our label, Like I want to see them win

871
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: so much that I'm like, I don't know if adding

872
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 1: more to that is fair, you know what I mean.

873
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: So there's there's just the reality of it. All right,

874
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna but I do love working on R

875
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: and B, like you know, Cole. I think Cole specifically,

876
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I always tell him the next phase of his career

877
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: is really producing and get in with artist. He loves that,

878
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: like he's going in with l Man, He's gotten in

879
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: with you know, um, just he loves that space him

880
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: watching him work with Ari, I see like that and

881
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: this is like you really love this, you know what

882
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Like on her on the Introver album, like

883
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: he wrote that with her, and like and like, you know,

884
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: even just the conversation he's had with throughout a career.

885
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: So I know that's something that it's fun to us,

886
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like work wise, being able

887
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: to get in with artists and kind of like craft

888
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: like yo, this, you know, like this this would sound

889
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: dope or whatever. So I do think there's there's always

890
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna be something there. I just don't know what yet,

891
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Okay, definitely, Okay, we were

892
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: going there. We're gonna go to your R and B mind.

893
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you. Yeah, come on, come on, come

894
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: on from Yeah it was it was just a killing

895
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: money little We're not gonna shout their name. You're not

896
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: gonna get of them. Yeah they got. They got to

897
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: send that check before we start saying their names. It's

898
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: really good though. I'm not gonna say your name. But

899
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: if y'all want to know, hit up Tank, you put

900
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: me on. Hurt nobody. Nobody will hurt ship hip too

901
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: really explore. Mm hmmmm. We're good now, h m hmm.

902
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: All right, mm hmmm mm hmmm. Let's get in chips

903
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: and ship. But I'm meeting drips. Mhmm. You're going to

904
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: edit it? Yes, I want to know. I already know one,

905
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: but I don't want to know your top five R

906
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: and B artists of all time be all our female.

907
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: All right, well, Joe to see I gotta be up there,

908
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I grew up a huge

909
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Jodice fan, so we gotta put that up there. Um

910
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, I would sure, yes, you know what I mean.

911
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: Like Man Confessions, you put that up against any album

912
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: in the genre time. You know what I mean. I

913
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: think Confessions in Miseducation is like two of the best albums.

914
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: Just listening to that the other day, Um, Erica, could

915
00:49:46,440 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 1: I do Eric? I love you too, Erica, er I'll

916
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: risk Yours was different, though, Erica, We're gonna leave some

917
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: people out because they didn't you know. Now, we're not

918
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: love not wronging me money podcast if you would like to,

919
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: that's on you. We don't leave nobody out. They don't

920
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: did too many whiles ship we can. That's not true,

921
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: she told my music to my music brother on music. Yeah,

922
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: you can't to raise your influence. Yeah, try to send

923
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: me up a set up you don't. Yeah, but y'all

924
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: know something is just incredible. They're just terrible people, and

925
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave it in what we say. You can

926
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: say if you, if you, if he was just a

927
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: good nigga, he would be topic number four. Now I

928
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: can't put them before. I gotta I gotta raise him

929
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: out of the history books. Now. I mean maybe on

930
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: my own time I listen to It's your five, Um,

931
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: damn five, it's just so many kod ones. Mm hmmm.

932
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: I think just like as far as music, like songs

933
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna love forever, I'm gonna throw a lee

934
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: in there because is gonna you know, it's like it's

935
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: where it's where you add in your life when you

936
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: first heard them, you know what I mean. It's like, Um,

937
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to count anybody. That's like, I'm only

938
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: counting people I grew up on. I don't want to

939
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: count like the newer people because I feel like there's

940
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: like a whole list of people. But um, who's last

941
00:51:53,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: Who am I missing? Mm hmm. I feel like I mean,

942
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: I was honestly huge. I'm gonna put Alicia in there

943
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: because them first like that the first two albums when

944
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: I was growing up, Like, man, I spun the funk

945
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: out of them ship, So you know what I mean.

946
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a strong five, very strong five,

947
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: very strong on the show early with Alicia Sacramento and

948
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: and I came out and I'm doing my whole singing thing,

949
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: and I got my band down on it, you know,

950
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: a leather suit whatever, and I'm just trying to dazzle

951
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: them with all of my all of my newfound sex appeal.

952
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: You know. That's what I was on shirt off tank change,

953
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: just so they know my name didn't make sure if

954
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta be right, just the case you didn't

955
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: know right here, um, And that's what I'm trying to

956
00:52:53,960 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: dazzle them with. It was Jimmy cozyer Me Records comes

957
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: up there and starts singing and playing the piano, and

958
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can do that, right, why not do that?

959
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: I think I do that? And she was up there killing.

960
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: I was like this, we gotta we gotta rearrange this man,

961
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: because she's and I never changed it, you know what

962
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: you know what it was with Alicia. It was like

963
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: being because I was in high school around that time.

964
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: It felt like and I'm from New York, so it

965
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: felt like that that little like streets that she had

966
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: along with the beautiful chords and made it feel like

967
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: a DJ. It didn't look like she was like like

968
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: when I played the piano, I'm like playing the piano,

969
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I've learned from you know,

970
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: Brian mcnight and baby Face, and you know, I'm a

971
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: church musician. But when she played that, she was she

972
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: was up to it and like just her lean and everything.

973
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: I was like, this, that's mine. Don't come off like that.

974
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: Well you know I did forget though that I do

975
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: want to mention is t Pay one of my favorites.

976
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: He's just ever getting to argue with me. He's it

977
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: was just like and it's just introduced the new style

978
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: R and V two people, you know what I mean,

979
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: Like I appreciate people. It's like I'm just gonna do

980
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: it my way. Like and then later you found out

981
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: that he was actually vocally strong, like he didn't know

982
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: what you know, we didn't know, Yeah, we didn't know

983
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: at the beginning. Well, you know, I mean for me

984
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: what I used to try to do the auto tune heavy.

985
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: I was like, why don't I sound like t pay?

986
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: I just I didn't sound like him, you know what

987
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hit The texture in his tone and all

988
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: of that made all of the difference. And he was

989
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: also another one to the point we're talking about with Drake,

990
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: but in a different way, like he was writing from

991
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: a place of like like we're not supp used to

992
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: it used to be uncool to say, like I'm in

993
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: love with a stripper, like like he made ship that,

994
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: he made it fun. He didn't he didn't put too

995
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: much on it. I love that. So I do want

996
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: to put him up there too. Top five R and

997
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: B song. That's gonna be hard. That's gonna be hard.

998
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll just go by like the artist that I

999
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: already loved. You can do that, but go ahead, yeah,

1000
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: because not because it's hard to make five, because like

1001
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: I would, I wouldn't want to throw I'm gonna give

1002
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: it a shot. Carl Thomas, I wish up. Can't go

1003
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: wrong with that. It's just can't go wrong with it.

1004
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: It's just an incredible song. Um, I don't know if

1005
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: it's like a top five favorite of all time, but

1006
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: an R and B song. I've been listening to you

1007
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: a lot lately is kick You White? First Love? First Love.

1008
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: Me and my sisters literally have sing offs every family reunion, everything.

1009
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: One of my favorites the whole house. You split it up,

1010
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: y'all sing kicks part, I'm Gonna see her face part.

1011
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: I've been on that heavy like the last year, just like,

1012
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, I got so mad when there came out.

1013
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: It was still a little bit of a hater. Y'a

1014
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: was playing the same y'all was both trying to get

1015
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: on the tea. I'm trying to get in and I'm

1016
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, get in the game, and

1017
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm watching the vant cook. And at that time, I couldn't.

1018
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't completely appreciate a Vont's vocal because I was

1019
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: a church kid just running all over the place. I

1020
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: couldn't appreciate simple man the game like it was. It

1021
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: was just right. Everything about it was right. Nothing was

1022
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: missing man, Oh yeah, joint and it. And it took

1023
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: me a minute to just, you know, just just learn

1024
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: to get out of myself and understand what that way

1025
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: it took me, took it took me going into a

1026
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: session with the producer and you know, I'm a singer,

1027
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm singing, athing, I'm singing, sing sing sings and failing

1028
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: at the session m hm, and having to go back

1029
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: and listen to the song some more. Two get the song,

1030
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: the style of the song. The song was so simple,

1031
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: and the song required so many just subtle nuances that

1032
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: pull it off. Like that's a real talent to know

1033
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: when to baby face when the simplified things. It's like

1034
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: a talent even as producers. I remember when you know,

1035
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: being in producers, like when you overdo it, it's like, well,

1036
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: where's the room for the actual artists? You know what

1037
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean? Like who you know, you're trying to impress

1038
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: yourself exactly. So I think I think that's that's a

1039
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: good That's something all artists, you though, Like, Yo, there's

1040
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: a time when you got to know how to dig back.

1041
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: Is when I say a monster straight ahead vocal. Yeah

1042
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: that's Kiki. I love that. Um M. You know, I

1043
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: got to put a show to see jointing there. I

1044
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: got which one though, Uh, that's tough. You can run

1045
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: off the rest of your list with yell to record.

1046
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, yeah, but I gotta pick one just to

1047
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: be be able to like include other people. I might

1048
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: have to go my harbor on see you Bopp who

1049
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: does that joo? Whatever you want, whatever you want. And

1050
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because he was He's in a group,

1051
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: not wass in a group, and from a family with

1052
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: such a powerhouse, which case he is. That a lot

1053
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: of times it doesn't get mentioned the greatness of Jojo.

1054
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: I literally I went on live one night and I'm talking,

1055
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm arguing with people, I'm talking about where I'm and

1056
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: I learned to not argue with people who don't do

1057
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: R and B, but I just had one of them nice.

1058
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: I was literally going, I was losing my mom. I'm talking,

1059
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm arguing online like this about JoJo's vocal and I'm like,

1060
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: it's two guys. There's Joe Joe Haley and it's Sean Stockman,

1061
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: who both are in groups with ultimate powerhouses that that

1062
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: their voices are so strong and they just they're just

1063
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: so incredible that you don't realize that there's a master

1064
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: right next to them, master that will cook any and everything,

1065
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: and big boy to a rap. It's like yes, y'all

1066
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: don't realize how fucking fire big boys because you know,

1067
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you just there's a

1068
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: reason why the Nigga is all group because they respect

1069
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: their times. And one when when Casey could take my mom,

1070
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: he coming crazy house in co He's just coming earlier.

1071
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: And then what it is and then Jos, I don't

1072
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: never ya, I said, why would he do that? Why

1073
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: would he break it down like that? Exactly? It's the

1074
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: compliment of you know what it was to when I

1075
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: was a kid. It was again it was like and

1076
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: I love boys to man, but it was like this

1077
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: that genius stuff, like it's like y'are not you're y'all

1078
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: are unique. Y'all are doing your own ship, Like you

1079
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was always telling like people,

1080
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: I think it's so weird that for some reason as

1081
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: a kid, I was always like yeah, but I and

1082
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is fully true or not,

1083
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: but I always be like, yeah, but Joe, see, they're

1084
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: producing write all their own stuff. I don't think boys

1085
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: the man right, like, who gives a funk? I'm like

1086
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: arguing about the fact that DeVante is doing all his

1087
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: work like it like it makes them that much better.

1088
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: Crazy thing is, boys, the man was right. No, I

1089
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: didn't know that. In my mind. I was like, oh,

1090
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: y'all were like, you know, like like everything didn't write

1091
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: every single butt and I found out. I mean, there's

1092
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: other people taken from your guy. I know you will

1093
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: jump over the table about Devonte's keep it fulk key though,

1094
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: But when we get into the Diary of a Man band, yeah,

1095
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: that album is we're talking about Devonte. That's fair me

1096
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: so so Timberlin don't got no hand and none of that.

1097
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. Here's what I gotta say. You have

1098
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: to think of think of it like this DeVante sound

1099
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: has not in any way, shape or form been replicated,

1100
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: and it hasn't got no and it hasn't got and

1101
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: it hasn't got nobody can do it like so you know,

1102
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: it's fair. It's fair. It's fair, it's fair. Fairr Okay,

1103
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: my heart belongs to you, yes, Jesus Christ. So the

1104
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: fourth one is, this is quite the hardest one is

1105
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: to pick a song off Confessions because I gotta get something.

1106
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: It's so many confessions ain't a single so yeah, but

1107
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: to me, we're not here from me to me, it

1108
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: would be between Superstar and throw Back, Like those are

1109
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: two of my favorite songs all confession, but it's like,

1110
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: how do you pick one? You know what I mean?

1111
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: Like every time my head throw Back, it's like mine

1112
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: is what that's what it's made for. I haven't been

1113
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: to the show, but I'm going for sure. I gotta go.

1114
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Yeah. Just watching his fucking tiny desk,

1115
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, it makes you realize there's a level, you

1116
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like this level like really good.

1117
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm really good guys. So but you know what, I'm

1118
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna go throw Back just because, Okay, the before and

1119
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: then five that's tough because then it gets it gets

1120
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: into the reason I even mentioned the R thing, you

1121
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I really like, why don't

1122
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: we fall in love real quickly? For you? I'm sorry,

1123
01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: Seduction is my favorite. That crazy to though, that's that's

1124
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: that's that's my I'm gonna go with Throwback just because

1125
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: of like the hip hop so I love the merger

1126
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: of that. I love the merger of like hip hop,

1127
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: but like the emotion and singing on it. To me,

1128
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: that's like my favorite ship, which then leads me to

1129
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: like damn, you don't know my name? Why don't we

1130
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: fall in love? Like? I also think of like Lion

1131
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: Tigers and Bears, which is one of like one of

1132
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: the like I still go back to that song, like, Yo,

1133
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: how did she do that? You know what I mean? Like,

1134
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's impossible to pick five. Yes, you got

1135
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: to do it right. I gotta pick one of those three.

1136
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: I want to say, Oh, that's tough. I think I'm

1137
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna go with you don't Know my Name, just because

1138
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: not only was it incredible, that ship went crazy too.

1139
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: It's just like somewhere else, yo, line Tigers and Bears,

1140
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: like those songs, like damn, it's a lot of good

1141
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: songs out there. All right, Um, R and B votron,

1142
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: we're putting together the perfect R and B singer. Who

1143
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: are you taking the vocals from? The style from, the

1144
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: performance style from, and the passion. We're gonna start with

1145
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: the vocal Who are you getting your vocal from? For

1146
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: your coldest vocalist, Man, I'm gonna have to go usher

1147
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: mm hmm. I'm gonna go Usher with that because I

1148
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: feel like he can do everything with it. He's got

1149
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: all of it. Who are you getting your performance style from?

1150
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: Are we mixing like women? Because performance down? Man, Chris

1151
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: is a monster, absolute monster. But Beyonce is also like insane,

1152
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: like she don't miss a No, I might have to

1153
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: go beyont ok. That's exciting. Who are you getting your

1154
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: style from? What you want your artists to look? Who

1155
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: you want your artists look? Damn, that's a tough one.

1156
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: I feel like it was it was old before that time.

1157
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: I think there was a lot about how like it

1158
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: felt like seeing Joe that he felt like dah, yeah,

1159
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: niggas look new to me, you know what I mean.

1160
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: I was young, so maybe I'll missed like people that

1161
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: ushi that styling before them. But I just remember at

1162
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: that time. Now, I don't want Nigga's dressing like Jodie now,

1163
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like at the time,

1164
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: it felt like it was unique. So I think that

1165
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: that mindset of like I also missed groups, man, groups

1166
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: was fine, But hey, man, you're you're very rich. You

1167
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: can go ahead and do a group now because you

1168
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: have me rich to a group. They don't want to

1169
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: do it, but breaking up guys, but I don't, I

1170
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: don't know, Oh you know what. Actually I'm gonna say.

1171
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Aliyah her style was incredible. I remember

1172
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: being in school and girls showing up with like the

1173
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: Tommy Hill figure and showing their boxers, and that ship

1174
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: handily made it sexy for a girl to like be

1175
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: tomb like. I've never seen that. I wouldn't do my

1176
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: stage for sure where I saw girls and those were

1177
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: the sexy girls to me. So to me, I I'm

1178
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna go with Aliyah. So style, that's a good one. Yeah, passion, passion,

1179
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: you get the heart from whos gonna get you, whos

1180
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: gonna kick over the speaker man? You know, might have

1181
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: to go with Casey Casey see Haley what, Yeah, you're

1182
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: the first person to say that passion that It's crazy

1183
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: that he's the first person to mention Casey's passion, his passion,

1184
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: like you get hearing in his voice, somebody gave me life,

1185
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, life, life if you think you lonely? Now,

1186
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: now that niggle was going in toss it up. Yeah,

1187
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: that nig was going see baby talking. That nig came

1188
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: on like this because you know what, with passion also

1189
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: comes your flaws, Like you're times where people don't agree

1190
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: with you, but that's what passion is. It's Casey has

1191
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: Casey has a run pattern that is absolutely indescribable. It

1192
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 1: doesn't follow any technical run patterned, any rule of running.

1193
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: It's it's Casey. Yeah, it's his, it's his, it's his.

1194
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: And and whoever is followed behind him. You say, that's

1195
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: that's Casey, that's Casey. That's Casey. Now, that's that's that's that.

1196
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: We got one more thing for you, though, you let

1197
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: your body here. What's up? So we got this this uh,

1198
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: this segment it's called I ain't saying on that. Will

1199
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: you tell us a story funnier, fucked up? Are funny

1200
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: and fucked up? The only rule is you can't say

1201
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 1: no name, So this is Eves. I ain't saying on that.

1202
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: Let me think. I do think this story is funnier

1203
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: when you know the name and it's not disrespectful to

1204
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: the person. But I do want to think that it's

1205
01:09:53,280 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: that story I'm missing. Yeah, I'm gonna to go with

1206
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: this one because the first thing I thought of, um,

1207
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: it's like two thousand and eleven, and because because you

1208
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: know what it's important to what we are and it's

1209
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: like All Star Weekend and me and Cola like, at uh,

1210
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: it's like a two you know, the two Kings dinner

1211
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: Lebron and Jayson do and then it comes no. But

1212
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: but then they're not a part of story. They're not

1213
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: a part of story. And you know, there's two people

1214
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: come up to us like, yo, y'all want to go

1215
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: y'all want to go to a party? I want to

1216
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: go to We're not gonna say this name party, and

1217
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: me and Coles like because like I feel like Nick

1218
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be like doing coke off the table and

1219
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: all types of while she like we've just seen in

1220
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: the movie. I'm good, Like I'm good on this, Like yeah,

1221
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm like I haven't heard about this nigga, Like I

1222
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: know it gets wild. But they're like, nah, I just

1223
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: come through and in and we went and it was

1224
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: honestly the most I was drunk already, So you know,

1225
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: when you're drunk and you're kind of like, I don't

1226
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: want nobody know I'm drunk, especially in this establishment and

1227
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: this person it's not even really I don't even want

1228
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: to call it a party. It's like a jam session.

1229
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: And this nigga goes up there and you just started

1230
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: playing the bass. His dances all dancing, so it's like

1231
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: basically like when the performance venue in this person's house

1232
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: and I'm drunk and I'm like, I definitely do not

1233
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: belong here, like I'm the last I'm looking around like

1234
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be here, but I'm gonna enjoy

1235
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: this night. And this nigga goes up keep playing a bass.

1236
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess at this one, it's like it's

1237
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: not best. So many things that could do this because

1238
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: the base down he starts dancing, drinking, he go back

1239
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: up plays the drums. I'm like, this nig is that

1240
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: you goes back up start singing. I'm like, what am I? Why?

1241
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: How am I here? Like and and you know, I

1242
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: see this other artist who will remain nameless he liked damn.

1243
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: They're like, are you with this girl? I'm thinking about

1244
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: to like square up. I'm like, I'm sitting here again

1245
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: like somebody I grew up on him, like I don't

1246
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: want to see this, Like I'm just like, why am

1247
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: I here? But that's one of the craziest memories I've

1248
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: ever had, because you know, the artist that way beyond

1249
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: my time is one of the greatest to ever do

1250
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: anything in music and to see that artist go up

1251
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: there on the base on the drums, on the guitar

1252
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: start singing while everybody's just dancing. I'm like, I'm thinking

1253
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to some house party in l A. And

1254
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: it's like, no, this was so the thought that I

1255
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: thought was I was gonna walk into like mounds of

1256
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: cocaine and I'm like, I'm not about that, Like maybe

1257
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: give me out of here. And just to know that

1258
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: it was like it was a jam session. That's one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite like memories that because we also never

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Speaker 1: like to see our heroes. Yeah, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: see to get to see them, yeah, bro do they thing?

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Speaker 1: It was crazy because in my mind, I'm like I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see that. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: in a place where I'm like, yo, like I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see how like that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And I don't have nothing against people that enjoy themselves

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Speaker 1: and do that. It's just like I wasn't ready. I

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Speaker 1: didn't have a good understanding of like anything in that,

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Speaker 1: you know what i mean. So my mom, I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 1: like I'm good, Like I'd rather keep them in my mind.

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Speaker 1: It's like howe but there was still a superhero's still

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Speaker 1: a good one. We want to get we want to

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Speaker 1: get pressed by ice Cube at some point. Yeah, I want.

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Speaker 1: I want to if I see ice cust tell me

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Speaker 1: to break myself. What I'm break yourself for? Why don't

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Speaker 1: tell me to break myself? Let me have the car

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Speaker 1: down the car though, you don't know why you got

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Speaker 1: out and cut put some stuff in his eyes. He's

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Speaker 1: not if you don't have to cry, escape, I want

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Speaker 1: to cry. All right, listen, ladies and gentlemen, this has

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Speaker 1: been um. This has been an Army Money podcast, a

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Speaker 1: very special Army Money podcast. Whether we thank you, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I love what you'all do, man, and getting into the

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Speaker 1: intricacies you know what I'm saying, and and and giving

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Speaker 1: us a lot of organic information. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying in terms of just um, believing in yourselves you have,

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Speaker 1: believing in your guys and rolling with it, betting on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that there's, like you said, Jay, there's something

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Speaker 1: to be said that the top of the food chain

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Speaker 1: is constructed that way. No, for sure, y'all keep going, man,

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Speaker 1: you know you got our support and man always revenge

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Speaker 1: of the dreamer's toil or something. Yeah, I know it's

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Speaker 1: a dream feel you know what I'm saying somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the forests happening at y'all need performance, you need to

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Speaker 1: come on. Man. I got it, I got it. I

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Speaker 1: got y'all. Man, we got a song, y'all. This top

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Speaker 1: five right now, number one now for sure. Man, I

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Speaker 1: got nothing but love for y'all. Um, I've appreciated that

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Speaker 1: y'all have like always been genuine from day one. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So and and like you said,

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Speaker 1: y'all building together. I know how that feels. So of

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Speaker 1: course this is yeah. I love seeing the growth from everything.

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Speaker 1: I'll do make dreams of sessions. I'm gonna call y'all love.

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Speaker 1: This has been the boss right here on the R

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