1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is a name and Samantha, and welcome to Stefan. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Never told you a protection of iHeart Radio. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: And today's feminist around the world. Yes, we're here. We 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: are talking about feminist political activists an engineer. I feel 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: like that's important to add because she is an engineer, 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: Amara Asman Ahmed. And of course I'm just gonna put 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: that caveat or doing our best with pronunciations. If you 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: have a correction, please let us know and we'll give 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: you information on how to do that later. Huh. Yes, 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: And I will say most of the articles that we read, 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: they reference her as Amera Osman. So Ahmed is not 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: often used, but we are going to reference her as 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Hahmed because that's how I found her. Just with that 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: as well. So Ahmed is a Sudanese women's rights activist 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: and has been under scrutiny under the current and previous 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: regime for her stance on women's rights and just in 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: our activism. In twenty twenty two, she was arrested in 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: detained for her activism, but was released later. She is 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: still subjected to prosecution by the government, according to different reports. 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure as to what and I will 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: say most of the reports and information we've gotten are 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two or earlier, so I'm not really 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: sure where she's at today. I think that needs to 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: be said. We know there's a big war happening and 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: a lot of dangerous situations, especially for a lot of 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: the activists there, which is also while we're talking about them. 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: So if someone on here may know more information or 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: more updated information, please let us know. But we don't 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: want that to stop us from celebrating what she's already done. So. 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: She was born in nineteen seventy six and studied computer engineering, 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: and her activism began at an early age. In an 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: interview with a Nobel's Women's Initiative, she talks about her 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: time in high schoo and her refusing to follow something 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: that she didn't believe in, and how she felt supported 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: by her mother and her family. She talked about knowing 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: she couldn't let herself be forced by others, and she 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: said this, looking back at it, if I did, I 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: would have been broken for the rest of my life. 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: The article continues on. It was nineteen ninety two in 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Sudan under the authoritarian regime of Omar al Bashir, though 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: she had joined the Democratic Front at school, Amara was 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: more interested in sports than activism until that night, A 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: snowball of anger was born inside me. That anger has 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: spurred Amera for three decades to campaign against authoritarian and 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: military rule, for democracy, freedom of speech and assembly, and 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: to challenge patriarchal laws in Sudan that denied dignity and 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: restrict women's freedom. 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: And again, with all of this, she has had the 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: support of her family. She talked about her mother's support 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: for her involvement with different protests. She said, whenever I 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: went out in a protest, my mother always used to 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: tell me, don't let them terrify you. Don't let the 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: military in Alkaizan or Islamist terrify. You stay together. You're 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: stronger when you're together. I miss her so much, and 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: with those words, Osmond has actively been fighting for equal 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: rights in her country for decades. In two thousand and two, 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: she was arrested for daring to wear pants. Then later 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, she was detained for refusing to wear 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: a headscarf. I believe she also was again arrested in 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty for wearing pants, and then once again for 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: refusing to wear a headscarf, and she has repeatedly been arrested, 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: threatened and detained and she is disabled. Believe her back 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: and even during this time they still mistreated her and 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: abuse her. She has gone on hunger strikes and protest 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: and called on the world to see what was happening 66 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: to her community. 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: And in two thousand and nine, she with a group 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: of Sudanese people started the No to Oppression against Women's Initiatives. 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Here's some information from Peaceinsight dot org. Note to Women's 70 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Oppression Initiative was established in two thousand and nine in 71 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: the aftermath of increased police and security harassment against women 72 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: in Sudan. In particular, the initiative was sparked by the 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: incident of police forces arresting Sudanese female journalists Lovna Hussein 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: for wearing trousers and accusing her of a violation of 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: the Sharia based Public Order Act. In response to that 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: incident and several other women rights violations, women activists in 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Sudan organized to fight against the public Order law and 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: unlawful abuses against women in Sudan. The Note to Women's 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Oppression Initiative was formed to advance cooperation and solidarity through 80 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: collective response to violations of women's rights in Sudan and 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: fight all kinds of abuse facing women because of their 82 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: gender right. 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: And it should be noted that during this time women 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: were being flogged for violating these laws. Amara herself was 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: threatened with being flogged for refusing to wear a headscar. 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: I believe the human rights organization actually stepped in to 87 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: prevent that from happening because there was a huge outcry 88 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: around the world when they found out about the sentencing. 89 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: But it still occurs, and so that same sitepiece, Insight 90 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: dot org continues on their team monitors the women's human 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: rights violations in the country, particularly the incidents of public order, 92 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: law based police violence, violations of rights in Sudan's conflict regions, 93 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: and other unlawful violations against women. They take immediate actions 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: supporting and standing with victims of incidents, supported through our monitors, 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: and this is about that. Organization continues on the initiative 96 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: organizers advocacy campaigns, supporting victims through protests during the court hearings, 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: press releases and reports. They also conduct outreach and workshop 98 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: empowering women to exercise their right and resist the unjust 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: laws They provide volunteer lawyers to present victims in court 100 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: and support their cases. They also conduct fundraising with their 101 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: network to provide any Nagel requirements to certain cases. They 102 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: also visit prisons and monitor the situation of women, particularly 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: the victims of public or law, such as local alcohol 104 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: brewers and tea sellers. 105 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: And with all of her amazing work, she still talks 106 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: about solidarity and kindness. She is quoted as saying when 107 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: the accident happened, I was paralyzed in my bed. The 108 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: love and the solidarity that I felt during this period 109 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: of my life from my friends and family and even 110 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: people who I didn't know, is heartwarming and showed me 111 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: what the Sudanese people are made of. I remember on 112 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: a rainy morning, a distant relative of mine who I 113 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: had never met, came from a different city. He said 114 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: he wanted to pray al Fayr and apologies if I 115 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: got that wrong, just let me know in our home, 116 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: because it's a blessed time and the prayers are answered. 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: I will never forget this. This is what keeps me 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: going and motivated. The Sudanese people deserve to live with 119 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: dignity and freedom in twenty twenty two, she was awarded 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: the Frontline Defender's Award for Human rights Defenders at Risk 121 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: and here's what they wrote about her, her and their release. Nevertheless, 122 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: Amara never deterred from her mission and actively participated in 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: peaceful demonstrations disregarding her personal safety to stand at the 124 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: helm and bring forward such progression right. 125 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: And we want to end with her own words for solidarity, 126 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: she says, let us unite for our rights, for our dignity, 127 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: for our free will, for a peaceful world. Let us 128 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: unite to defend our causes all over the world, to 129 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: condemn the violence against women under the name of customs, 130 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: traditions and religion. Let's make our main course of action 131 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: so that every human can live with honor and dignity. 132 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: And again, we don't have a lot of updates necessarily. 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: I do know that the organization tried to hold the 134 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: protest but was stopped by the government and regime in 135 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: August of this year. There's a lot happening. There's a 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: lot happening all over the world, and we definitely want 137 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: to keep looking and talking about the people who have 138 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: been working so hard and so desperately to create equality 139 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: honestly just safety for themselves and their people. So again 140 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: with all of this, if you have people we should 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: highlight or information, or if you have someone that you 142 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: want to write about, wonderful and we can read it 143 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: for you even better because it is that's a lot 144 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: of stuff going on and to try to find the 145 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: best information, the most update information can be difficult as 146 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: they are in a difficult situation. 147 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and yes, if you would like to contact 148 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: us about any of that, you can. You can email 149 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: us at Stephania Momstuff at iHeartMedia dot com. 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