WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Metalstorm 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:15.760 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.400 is Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And today we're 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.080 gonna answer the question what do you get when you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.680 throw Mad Max, Star Wars and three D in a 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:30.639 blender with copious dirt road driving sequences. The answer is 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:35.720 Metal Storm The Destruction of Jared sin uh I. Uh So, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.240 I'm very excited to talk about this movie today because 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.320 it's not only uh one of those great blender movies. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.680 You know, we're just kind of chucking in elements from 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.279 everything and you mix them all up into a cinema smoothie. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.920 But it's also a great example of something that I 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.400 think a lot of listeners will will have experience with 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.200 from their day to day jobs. This movie is a 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.800 great example of the boss had an idea and now 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.400 it's our job to make it work. Yes, to bring 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.679 it to life. That the boss in this case, for 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.720 the most part, is Charles Band. So yes, we are 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.640 returning to band Camp. I don't think we we necessarily 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.080 intended to return to to the cinematic world of Charles 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.320 Band so soon after transfers too, but then you ended 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.680 up I mentioned it in the Transfers episode, and then 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.039 you ended up watching it. And here we are. Right 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.280 last weekend, I was visiting with an old friend of 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.039 mine who I hadn't seen in a long time, and 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.800 we ended up going out to rent some discs and 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.200 and one of the disks that was just glowing on 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.679 the video store shelf was metal Storm The Destruction of Jaredson. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.200 It was fresh in my mind from your mention on 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.039 the Transfers two episodes. I was like, well, we got 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.480 to pick it up and we had a blast watching 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.600 this thing. Though I will say, for uh, for a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.680 really pretty dumb movie, a really enjoyable but dumb movie, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.560 this one definitely took me to go around to understand 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.960 the plot. I look. I look forward to that. I 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.960 I have seen it twice as well, but those viewings 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.440 are separated by by many years. Uh uh. Now, speaking 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:05.920 of the disc, I will just go ahead and mention 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.120 right now that this is the we both watch the 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.880 Shout Factory Blu Ray edition that I think came out 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.560 in pretty awesome, has some neat extras, and it's two discs. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.720 One disc is your typical Blu Ray two D format 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.440 and any other one is in three D. For those 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.280 of you who have the equipment to make three dimensional 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.120 cinematic viewing possible. Yeah, well, what what would it require? 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.639 Would be red blue glasses even at home. I'm not sure. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.920 I'm not up enough on this technology. Um So I 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.880 was afraid to even put it into my xbox. That 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.760 was like, I don't know what will happened? Could be 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.640 this devastating. But what like other three D movies, this 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.360 movie has a lot of shots that don't make sense 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.280 at all when you're watching it in two D. So 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.560 characters just shoving things towards the camera here, you know, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.959 like here's a squirt of goop into the camera lens, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.440 here's a here's a thing flying at you. It's very 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.280 much like you know, uh, Friday thirteen, Part three in 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.919 three D, where there will just be characters like holding 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.959 out a mug towards the screen. Why yeah, I mean 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.080 most of these moments you probably would. I mean, I 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.880 don't know, it depends. I guess I went into it 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.960 to this second viewing knowing it was filmed in three D. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.799 So the sequences where people are reaching at the screen 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.560 like they really stand out, uh to stand out to me. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.080 I don't know if if they would seem out of 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.480 context to other viewers, But there is one terrific sequence 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.120 in which a truck drives off into the distance and 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.280 then we pan over to a bush that has like 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.160 like or like you know this you know stick tree, 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.200 and we we kind of zoom in on a branch 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.600 that's pointing at the camera and we just linger there 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.560 for for several seconds. And of course, the whole reason 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.120 is like, all right, we're shooting in three D. We 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.680 gotta get something in there, get something pointing at the camera, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.360 something jutting at the audience so they can marvel at 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.200 it and reach out and try to touch it. But 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.840 this is actually three D theology within the world of 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.520 the movie, because that tree has religious significance in the 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.360 world of the waste land of Jared sin right, because 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.160 he has the vision with the tree in it. It's 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.880 a tree that looks like that one. Yeah, yeah, we 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.480 have we have some some there. There are. There are 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.960 a lot of ideas in this film, many of them 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.000 kind of you know, not completely formed and kind of ethereal. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:19.080 But there's definitely some Old testamentisticism, uh, you know, floating 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.960 around somewhere in this picture. Yeah, it's the Old Testament 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.919 if it involves cyborgs in a crystal mask. Yes. Uh. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.560 Like a lot of the you know, sci fi mashup 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.320 movies of the nineteen eighties, this one, I think is 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.800 some of its strongest elements are sort of the meta 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.560 of the movie rather than the movie itself. Like this 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:42.160 movie has a killer poster, it has a killer trailer, 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.440 will let you hear a little bit of and it 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.679 also just I mean, you can't deny that name metal 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.159 Storm the Destruction of Jared Sin, which is funny on 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.039 on many levels. I mean, number one, I love the 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.640 combination of like the tech Viking vocabulary metal Storm, but 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.159 then with the name Jerry Red's utterly mundane names. So 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.320 I was trying to think variations on it, Like did 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.719 they also try out Bone Crag, the Scaton of Cyber Jimmy, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:13.159 or blood Blizzard the Annihilation of Cody Tron. I don't know. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.120 I don't know, Jared sounds a little more regal than 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.280 some names. I don't know. Maybe it makes me think 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.880 of Jarreed, that the Goblin King or something. I don't know. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.320 It has I don't know that there's this there's a 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.560 certain bit of of of mystery to the name Jared, 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.800 and then you combine it with sin s y n uh, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.120 you know, and then it takes on other worldly qualities. Okay, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.680 maybe we have different associations. I mean when I think Jared, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.000 I think kids I knew in Tennessee in the nineties. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.680 Oh well, I mean yeah, I mean I can also 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.840 think of of people I've known with the name Jared. Um. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.080 They they're just regular people. They don't seem like space 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.480 goblin kings or anything. But I don't know. Yeah, I 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.520 can't explain it. But maybe it's because ultimately the Jared's 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.560 and the Jariff's that I know best are the cinematic ones. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:57.640 I was trying to think of a real good nineties 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.560 Tennessee name, and I was coming up short. I don't know, 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:05.040 it'd be like like Braden Tron or something, you know, 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.239 Braden's I is noting with Jim Bob and it maybe 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.800 Jim Bob is a solid nineties Tennessee name. Oh, I 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.800 think you're thinking a little more by you than than 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.000 I am. I don't know. These were these were Tennessee names. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.800 Jim Bob Okay, no, no, no. The other thing. The 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.479 other half of what's really amazing about the name though, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.240 so you got the tech Viking vocabulary, the name Jared. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.400 But also, this is a movie that promises the destruction 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.240 of Jaredson and does not come close to delivering on 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:37.920 that promise. Jaredson escapes this movie completely intact. Yes, yeah, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.960 this is this is hilarious because it's not just us 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.320 the viewers making this comment, like, apparently this was a 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.560 concern of the screenwriter at the time, uh talking to 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:51.200 uh the producer and Charles Band's father, Albert Band and saying, hey, 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:52.960 this this title makes no sense. Can we call it 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.440 the escape of Jaredson because that's what happens at the end, 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.400 He's not destroyed. And our Band's like, no, that's that's 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.600 that's not a good title. The destruction of of Jaredson. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.360 I think they were trying to set up like Jaredson 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.600 in Beverly Hills sequel. Yeah, Jaredson trilogy. I don't know 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.560 if I if I'm being generous, I might say, well, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.280 maybe the idea is it's the destruction wrought by Jared 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.760 Sin kind of like the desolation of Smog in the 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.640 Hobbit trilogy. But I don't think anyone actually interpreted it 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.840 that way. Um And as we'll get to the ending, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.400 obviously towards the end of his episode. But the thing is, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.440 there are plenty of other films that managed to give 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.880 their hero and actual victory over a villain while preserving 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.800 said villain for a possible sequel. You know, I think 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.680 of there's so many examples, you know, where at the 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.160 end of the villain rises up. Oh they're not dead 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.720 after all, hand comes reaching out of the lava or whatnot. Um, So, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.720 I don't know, it seems weird that he just completely escapes. Yeah, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.920 he just zooms off into a world of triangles. Yeah, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.760 he will actually know what we were saying that. So 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.080 maybe the sequel they were setting up as he comes 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.000 to Earth and he you know, is around Beverly Hills 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.800 or something. But the other option is Jaredson goes to 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.640 flatland and it's an Edwin Abbott kind of thing. You 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.520 have to figure out, like how Jaredson would fit in 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.520 this world of two D shapes. Or maybe it's like 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.920 he just transcends. He he becomes part of another dimension 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.720 and he just gets away. I don't know. Our heroes 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.400 seem to think they can catch him in a sequel. Uh, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.800 but that sequel never came to be. Okay, elevator pitch 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.520 on this movie, Jaredson, the tyrant of the Waste Land, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.760 wants to become even more tyrannical with the help of 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.360 a large magic crystal, and it's up to Mad Max, 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.559 Han Solo and Kelly Preston to stop him. Ah. This 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.880 is an absolutely wonderful trailer. This is This is an 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.640 amazing trailer. You should you make sure you check this out. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.760 I'll include the trailer at the the blog post for 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.080 this at Samuta music dot com. But this is the 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.760 voice of God himself in this. This is Don Lafontaine, uh, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.760 who narrated so many wonderful movie trailers back in the day. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.840 In a future that grows ever closer, the fate of 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.760 our earth will lie in the hands of one man, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.079 a solitary warrior of great courage. His name is Dot 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:16.000 and he is called the Finder. His enemies will emerge 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:21.040 from the underworld to test his strength. Eurok, the Cyclopean 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:27.440 warlord of the One Eyes, the Assassin Balls, Half Man, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:34.200 Half Machine, and Jared sin leader and mastermind of the 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:43.040 Sinister Renegades Metal Store the destruction of Jared sin in 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.240 three D. I would also say this movie is very 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.800 well suited for a clip show style trailer because it 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.880 has a lot of great elements in it that are 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.160 only in the loosest possible way strung together by plot logic. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.280 It's mostly just how can we fit together these set 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.080 piece ideas that that the Boss had. Yeah, and the 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.480 trailer try, you know, like a lot of trailers. It 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.920 shows you all the cool stuff in the film, but 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.079 it does a great job of selling it, and ultimately, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.160 the story of metal Storm is a story of successfully 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.600 selling an idea, even if the idea hasn't completely been 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.920 developed yet. Okay, well, let's explore that story of metal 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.480 Storm by getting into the cast of characters. All right, Um, well, 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.679 we've already mentioned the director. The director is Charles band 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:33.319 Born One. We've discussed his bio on two previous episodes 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.680 because he he directed Transfers to and he was the 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:40.320 producer on Robot Jocks. Yeah, so go back and listen 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.320 to those if you if you want to hear more 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.199 about the band family. But just in brief, he's the 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.400 man behind first Empire International Pictures and then Full Moon 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.880 Features and Full Moon Features is still going strong today. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.360 So this movie came out in what year was it? Three? 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.600 That seems about right, that's right, eighty three, a big 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:05.440 year for three D films as well. To discuss here shortly. Now, 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.040 um the again that Blu ray edition of metal Storm 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.600 from Shout Factory or maybe it is a screen factory 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.880 on this one. Sometimes it's screen Factory, sometimes the Shout 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.200 Factory at any rate, one or the other same company. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.120 It's really good. Has some wonderful behind the scenes stuff 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.360 and they get into a little bit into how this 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.520 film came to be and basically Band had this basic 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.959 idea for the film that was brought to him by 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:31.080 screenwriter Alan j adler Um. And then Band had some 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.280 effective posters and one sheets put together, you know, hired 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.839 an artist and so forth, and then he started pitching 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.719 the movie um to a certain extent, like they were 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.720 it was already in production, you know, like like metal 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.920 Storm is happening, do you want in on metal Storm? Okay? 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 This reminds me very much of the Cannon films approach, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.440 or at least what would happen with a lot of 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.320 the canon films of this era, which is a very 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.600 poster first production process, you know, you're kind of leaning 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:00.600 into the marketing before the creative product is really been finished, 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.760 or sometimes before it's even begun, right. Yeah. So and 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.000 you know, I think that that was also like part 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.640 of bands um strength is that he was really good 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.360 at it's selling this kind of stuff, so um, you know, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.080 in in some areas, I think this this totally shows 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.040 with the with the finished picture. You know that a 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.280 lot of it ended up coming together in real time 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.959 or at the last minute on an extremely tight budget 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.160 and schedule. Um. Maybe not tight schedule by like modern standards, 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.160 but at the time this was a tight schedule considering 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.720 all the practical stuff they were having to do. Uh. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.560 In other cases, watching this, I don't know it it 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.199 I was really impressed with what they were able to achieve. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.679 You know, it would make makes the results all the 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.520 more impressive. But at one point band pause productions so 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.440 that he could take he could go to kind of 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.959 film festival and basically pitch the film so they could 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.280 get enough money to finish filming it. And so just 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.800 about everyone involved, especially in the effects and the music department, 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.000 they seem to have stories about like how little sleep 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.680 they got how down to the wire everything is and 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.080 having to sort of roll with like sort of last 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.520 minute changes in requests. This is hilarious, like that he's 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.400 getting investors at con where the people are there to 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.680 watch the you know, the big like art films of 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.839 the year. Yeah, well, I don't know, I mean this 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.400 and and since this is maybe it played well at 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.679 the festival, I don't know. Um. So Again, this was 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.679 one of the big reasons that this film they made 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.480 it out not only you know, was completely finished, but 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.760 also ended up on a number of screens across the 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.319 country was that it was a three D film. Um. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.319 And this is obvious if you watch the trailer. Even 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.679 the trailer was released in three D in in theaters. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.240 I believe it was shown at the front of Jaws. Three. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.080 So Band was an early adopter to the early eighties 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.120 three D boom. Um. He actually used it in his 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:56.280 first film, two Parasite, which starts Jimmy Moore. Um. And 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.080 the fact that he he went with three D on 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.160 this pictures and one of the major reasons that it 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.520 was picked up and widely released. So of course this 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.079 was not the first big three D movie boom. At 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.800 least one other wave of three D movies had come before, 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.960 maybe multiple waves, but this was a revival of the technology. Yeah, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.520 I mean basically, three D films have been around for 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.079 a while. I think the first three D film was 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.120 actually The Man from Mars m A R. S. I'm 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.600 not sure where that stands for, but a silent film 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.640 that used a three D process called Tell of You. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.480 So there are technological changes over the years, obviously, but yeah, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.480 there's there seems to be this ebb and flow of 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.640 the three like three D goes away and then uh, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.680 filmmakers returned to it as a way to try and 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.960 attract audiences into the into the theater. You know, it's 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.560 it's a it's a novelty. So if it's always there, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.400 people maybe get tired of it. They decided they don't 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.880 want to wear grubby glasses and get a migraine while 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.960 they watch a blockbuster, or at least that's that's my 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.880 approach to it. Um. But yeah, we still see this today. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.000 You know, three D will come back three D you know, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.640 Imax three D or whatever it happens to be. What 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.520 year was wasn't like Avatar was around the time, there 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.560 was another big three D fad and then that went 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.880 way again, and it will be back another fifteen years 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.360 after that. It seems like fifteen twenty year cycles. Maybe yeah, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.320 and I'll and I'll fall for it and go and 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.080 watch something and I'll get a headache, you know, end 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.160 up watching half the film in uh, you know, brain 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.800 twisting three D, and then watch the last of it 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.400 with the glasses um just folded up beside me and 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.480 just watching like the weird way that the screen looks 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.880 if you're not wearing the glasses. But anyway, this was 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.280 again we're talking about the early eighties and eight two 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.680 and eighty three were pretty big for three D. And 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.160 part of this whole thing was that you had at 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.960 least three different film franchises that were about to hit 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.040 their part three in their their series. And so I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.320 mean that's perfect, you know, Friday the Thirteen, Part three 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:51.400 three D, Amityville three D, Jaws three D. So that 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.880 those were eight two and eight three films often the 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.680 nadir of a series that in many cases wasn't good anyway, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.760 Like there there are Friday the Thirteen films that are 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.400 like good movies, but some of their some of them 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.280 are enjoyable trash part three is just is just the 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.040 bottom of the barrel, like you cannot get worse. But 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.440 there are a lot of stabs at the camera. Yes, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.720 you know, a lot of not just stabs though that's 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.280 what you'd expect, you know, the knife going towards the camera, 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.400 but a lot of it is also just like people 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.160 adjusting a clothes line and the pole at the end 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.200 of the clothes line is poking into the camera. Things 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:31.200 at that level of mundanity. Now, there were other pictures 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.840 that came out in three D, and we're not certainly 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.320 not going to list them all, but one was the 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.880 the film Space Hunter Adventures in the Forbidden Zone, which 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.560 I love to come back to on the show at 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.840 some point because it's kind of metal Storm with a 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.680 much bigger budget. Oh I don't think my heart could 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.800 contain it. I mean, like, what if, what if? What 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:55.120 if metal Storm had both Ernie Hudson and Michael Ironside 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.560 in it. Just prepare yourself for such a possibility. I 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.000 love those actors. All right, Let's move on to the 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.159 writing on this film again. We mentioned their name. Alan J. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.160 Adler born eight He was one of the writers on 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.159 Bands two film Parasite. He also wrote his nine eight 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.720 three film The Alchemist, and he went on to ride 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.399 an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation and the 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.560 filmation Ghostbusters cartoons. So not the one, not the real 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.600 Ghostbusters with the characters from the film, but that other 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.359 Ghostbusters show that had like a cartoon guerrilla in it. What. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.719 I don't even remember this? Yeah it exists. Uh okay, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.720 I always forget that it exists. But is it a 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.120 ghost gorilla? I don't know. I've never watched it because 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.080 I always just I looked at it and I would 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.560 instinctively know These are not the Ghostbusters, though I think 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.040 they actually pre date what we think of as the Ghostbusters, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.840 like it was an earlier property. Anyway. Adler was also 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:56.760 a toy consultant on the Robin Williams film Toys Wow, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.639 which is uh what a much but loved phil I 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:05.320 don't know it. It's an extremely weird and alienating movie 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.840 about the military industrial complex through the guys of a 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.320 children's movie about toys. I think the premises that Robin 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.560 Williams plays somebody who like is the the heir to 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.560 a toy factory fortune, but then like his step brother 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.040 or something comes in and he's like this gruff military 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.120 guy and he wants to use the toys to train 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.800 children to be soldiers. And there's also like a sea 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.719 monster in it. Yeah, it had a good cast. As 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.040 I were calling, Tory Amos did a song for it. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.920 So ha's that going for it? That's interesting? Well, shall 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.080 we move on to the cast? Oh? Yeah, we got 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.160 some Jeffreys in this movie, right, Uh so starring Jeffrey 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.560 Byron as is it Dogan or Doggin? I can't remember. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.399 It's Dojin that we were calling him. So because the 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.800 main character of this film, Dojin is dressed exactly like 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.800 Mad Max. It's not like a little bit of a 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.359 he's like they were just like dressing him like Mad Max. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.000 And I guess costume department said okay, and uh so 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.800 he's mad Max. So we were calling him mod Mocks 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.440 or sometimes doge Coin because we couldn't we couldn't hear 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.399 exactly what his name was, but we knew it started 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:14.080 with doge. Yeah, yeah, he is. He is basically Mad 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.479 Max in this very Mad Max esque in the same 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.880 way that this whole movie is Road Warrior esque. Um, 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.760 but I think we would we should say that. I 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.800 think the leather outfit he's wearing is tighter than Mad 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.240 Max's outfit, and so we ultimately have a sexier mad Max. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.280 I think so. And it is Road Warrior esque, but 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.800 I would say nerve a little bit. So whereas The 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.320 Road Warrior is a hard our action movie, this is 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.239 like The Road Warrior, but PG with a bunch of 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:44.720 Star Wars thrown in with it. Yeah, and also the 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.800 the I didn't really notice this when I was watching it. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.120 I enjoyed all the cars driving around and chasing each other. Um. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.399 But but when I was watching the behind the scenes stuff, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.000 they were talking to Uh, they were talking to Richard 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.639 Band who did the me music, and I believe it 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.400 was it was he was the one who pointed out 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.560 he had the car chases really slow in this um Like, 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.159 I think they meant to speed them up, speed the 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.480 film up. But then they realized that the movie wasn't 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.520 quite long enough to do that, that if they did that, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.760 it would be too short. Um. But I didn't have 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.160 any price. I enjoyed all the car chases I've seen enough, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.880 like Road Warrior asked car chases that I can take 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:28.000 like any quality level there that though that's a terrible instinct. 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.359 I mean, if you're thinking, like, oh, people won't think 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.000 that this trashy movie is long enough, we've got to 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.560 pad it out. That that is the sign of that 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.199 you're you are thinking about making a B movie in 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.240 the wrong way. Embrace the spirit of Attack of the 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.199 Crab Monsters, a movie that is sub seventy minutes and 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.679 it's still and it's great trash. I agree, I like, 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.840 I like a good short film. They can they can 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.399 get everything done and get me in bed, you know, 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.800 in an hour and some change. But so Jeffrey Byron 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:03.400