1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back again. We are talking about, well, what else 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: are we talking about? The NBA playoff? The n B 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: A oh sorry, I was supposed to say playoffs, not 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: the NBA. We'll be talking about obviously, that and very 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: very fun conversation with our guest. Writer, producer, ESPN personality 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Justin Tensley is in the building. I'm Miles Gray, I'm 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles and Jack got I 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: love it, I love it, I love it. All right, 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: we've got to welcome our guests. One of the foremost 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: and sought after voices. Look, whether it beyond sports, hip 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: hop or things directly pertaining to the culture, We've got journalist, 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: producer and ESPN personality Justin Tensley, Justin Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: What's going on, fellas man, It is a true pleasure 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: to be here. I don't know where this conversation is 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: gonna lead to, but I'm I'm We're talking to NBA, 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: we're talking the playoffs. I mean, it's only great time. 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean it. We'll have to talk about your work too, 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: obviously you did, uh the fantastic thirty for thirty King 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: of Cranshaw. I think for most people in Los Angeles 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: who know you know the importance of Nipsey Hustle. Uh, 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: sure you don't know. Please please check that out. And 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: also we'll have to talk about you're writing a little book. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: You got a little book coming out called Little Book 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Notorious Big, a little something on this largely unknown rapper 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: named the Notorious b I G. Biggie Smalls. I'm not sure. No, 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I've not heard of him. Is that the same as 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: that young man Christopher Wallace? I've heard about that? Yes, 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: that is right. Okay, Now I didn't know he was 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: called that. Who knew? Right? Who knew? I mean, look, 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: let's let's just get right into it. I mean we'll 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: we'll get to all that stuff obviously in due time. 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: But I think the thing that is at the top 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: of our minds the NBA playoffs are in full swing. Now. 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: How was everybody feeling after that first weekend? How you feeling? 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm excited speaking of that. A thing that 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: we've talked about on our other shows that guys just 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: like randomly came across my desk was how young Big 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: he was, like just throughout everything he did, he was 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: like so shockingly young, like It's like, what how he 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: was twenty one when he released Ready to Die, Like yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: and yeah he was. He was gone by the time 42 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: he So that ties into what I think has been 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the most exciting thing about the first weekend, which is 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: the young players, particularly Anthony Edwards. Uh yo. Like we 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about Anthony Edwards here and there, but like 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we devoted the first episode of this show 47 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: to Jah and Anthony Edwards came through and his playoff 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: debut put up put up a cool thirty six third 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: most ever for a player twenty year under in a 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: playoff game, third most ever for a player of any 51 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: age in a playoff debut. And I don't know, it's 52 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: watching this happen like it kind of feels like you're 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: watching someone's game come together in real time, like in 54 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: front of our eyes. Like I don't know if it 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: just feels like that because I haven't watched every game 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: this season, but like I remember when he came into 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the league, everyone was like, well, he's shooting, Like he's 58 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: not a good shooter. Like that's that's the first thing 59 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: you have to understand about this man. Let's check back, 60 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Let's check back in like a season and a half 61 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: um obviously, you know, like athleticism and strength are are 62 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: like unparalleled, and then confidence is just unfakeable and incredible. 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: And his playing game and his playoff debut. I don't 64 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: know this is like an old head thing, but it 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: reminded me of the Lebron Sston series where he was 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden unstoppable, like he'd been good, but 67 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it was like, wait, is the 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: is somebody like is that a college player playing against 69 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: a j V high school team? Like, all of a sudden, 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: it just looked like he could do whatever he wanted 71 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: if he chose to. Every time down the court, He's like, 72 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: I will take whatever shot I want to with ease. 73 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: It is showed a one point lead two minutes into 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: the third sending away Towns headwards step back mid range 75 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: is money. The confidence just stripping off of Anthony Edwards 76 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: with seven. Here here's the thing, and for one, John 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: Morant is deserving of all the praise and adulation in 78 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: the world. Like and I went down to Memphis earlier 79 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: this year to kind of really report on not necessarily 80 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the ex exces and ohs of like Jozz dominance, but 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: like when you look at the history of the Grizzlies 82 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: like franchise, they've never had a superstar quality player like 83 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: a job Moran. And when I mean superstar quality, I 84 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: mean even things like Off the Court. Of course, you 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: know Zach Randolph will always be the heart and soul 86 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: of that franchise for for for a lot and deserving reasons. 87 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: But Jaw is different, and you get what I'm saying 88 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: when I say he's so, he's well deserving of having 89 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: his own episode. Like I love the fact that he 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: posted like that clip from the Last Dance Jordan with 91 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: the baseball bad It's just one game. I love it. 92 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. I love that, And I think only bring 93 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: up the fact that we devoted the first episode to Jah, 94 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: not not to be like and then like Anthony's better 95 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: more to be like. We we struggle to not make 96 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: every episode about Jah. Uh. That is my struggle. He's 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: so cool and so like the things he does, like 98 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: even in Game one, which they dropped, it was awesome. 99 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: It was so funny. Lot. Look, I'm to ask him 100 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: for too much. I want both to seven matchups this year, 101 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: to go seven games like whoever wins, like I mean 102 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I'll be fine, but I 103 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: need both of those to go seven. We exactly, we 104 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: all win, now, Jack, to what you were saying about 105 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, I mean, there's there's no I'll say this 106 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: if you find a reason to dislike Anthony Edwards. The 107 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: issue with you Anthony, right, that guy, that guy is 108 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: everything we want from Like obviously you mentioned the fact 109 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: that he came into the league and people were saying, like, oh, 110 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: he needs to improve the shooting, and then he suddenly 111 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: becomes a terrific three point shooting Like he's he's setting 112 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: records for for people, you know, you know players his 113 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: age in terms of like making threes and his offensive game, 114 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: Like I think it's at some point in his rookie 115 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: year he got known for like dunking on people because 116 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: he would put you he will put you on the 117 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: poster quick, fast and easy. But like his game is 118 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: so polished offensively that you know, in a way that 119 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: in a way that like Vince Carter, he would dunk 120 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: on people all the time, but his offensive game was 121 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: extremely well polished. And you know, but the thing about 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards that even sets him apart from Vince Carter 123 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: it's like this guy is extreme. You know, he gives 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you a lot in terms of like media interactions, so like, 125 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, I will say that like he's like a 126 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: six seven version of shock in a lot of ways. 127 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Like you know, he's gonna dominate on the court, but 128 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: like he's gonna give you a sound bite like he 129 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: had to. He had the quote of the weekend, Like 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, it was the kids that talked the 131 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: most trash at the Memphis game. And I love it, 132 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, like I love this guy's game. I love 133 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: everything about it and the fact that, like he's twenty, 134 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: we could potentially have thirteen and fifteen more years of 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: this right, you know, like it's it's ridiculous, man. So 136 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: like shout out to Anthony Edwards. I love that guy. 137 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a star, a superstar 138 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: for a long time. And if I had to pick 139 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: one player, that that one player, one storyline, or whatever 140 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: terminology you want to use. From the first weekend, it's 141 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. Man, Like that guy's must see TV. He 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: specialized early in his uh, like you were talking about 143 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: when he became numb for dunking on people. First of all, 144 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: he had a dunk where he jumped over somebody's head 145 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: and dunked on them, and unfortunately they called an offensive 146 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: foul because the defender like reached up and touched his 147 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: leg and then like fell back. But he also specialized 148 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: on dunkey people with his arm at like a ninety 149 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: degree and like just straight out in front of him 150 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: because he was that high over the rim and like 151 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that that made me realize, Oh, that's the thing you 152 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: have to unlearn when you're like that athletic is like, oh, 153 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that's very dangerous what you're doing right there. You're too 154 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: high above the basket. Like you need to just go 155 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: as high as you need to dunk, and I need to, 156 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: But what about us high as I can? Well, then 157 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: you will jump out of the building. Then when you're twenty, 158 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: you can still love live on the edge and reckless. 159 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't even him doing that. When he's I 160 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: can't believe him. He'll still be young. He'll be a 161 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: ten eleven year vet at that point. But uh no, 162 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: that that that guy is phenomenal man, and he is 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: exactly what that franchise needs. And I look, I don't 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen in this series. But they've proven 165 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: and he's proven that, like no stage is like too 166 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: big for him. I'm not saying he's gonna come up, 167 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, on the right side every time, because that 168 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: just never happens to anybody. But like even his coach, 169 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, Finish, he's he's even said that, like he's 170 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: he's proven, he's he's improved dramatically on the defensive end 171 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: from year one to year two. So like, this is 172 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: a guy for as as entertaining as he may be 173 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: in like a postgame press con for a situation like this, 174 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: dude is a dog. He's a dog's after it and 175 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: any basketball fan and I know y'all are like you 176 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: love dogs. Yeah, Well his mentality is it's so elite, 177 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: you know. And that's what's so And like what you're saying, Jack, 178 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I think you're saying you can't fake that confidence, right, 179 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: And you can tell in the game that he plays 180 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and the words that he speaks. And I think to 181 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: your point to what makes this series so great is 182 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: like you have on one side and saying I'm ready 183 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: for this, I'm energized by the challenge. In fact, I 184 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: this is all I ever really wanted, Like you can 185 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: tell that's that's where he's coming from. And then the 186 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: other end you have Jaw also saying, yeah, that was 187 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: a good game, but I honestly felt that we lost 188 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: that for ourselves. And so you're putting up these two 189 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: mentalities together and like it's only going to deliver some 190 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: of the best competition that you know that we've seen it. 191 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: And we're recording this right before Game two tips off, 192 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: so you guys know more about what happened in this 193 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: series than us. But there's one thing that is not 194 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: going to change, and that's how excited I am about 195 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. One more thing I do want to say 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards, and I think you all said it earlier, 197 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: just like leading up to like this discussion. He wants 198 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: this moment, Like if you if you go back to 199 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the one year he was at Georgia u g A, 200 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: they weren't good, so he didn't really get a chance 201 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: to play in like big time, prime time games and 202 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: his first year in Minnesota, you know, they didn't make 203 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Where some people might be like, all right, 204 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: well I'm a little nervous going into this game, and 205 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: it's naturally feel nerves. You could tell he's not only 206 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: he's not only embracing the moment, he's bear hugging. Yeah, 207 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: you know it's it's beautiful to see that, like the 208 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: times when they fall behind or gets close, like that's 209 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: when you're gonna see some ridiculous highlight from him. And 210 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: also like right at tip when everybody's damped up, he's 211 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: just the most stamped up. He's just like the one 212 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: who's like, all, I don't gonna score the first seven 213 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: points here, hold this real quick to be young and 214 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: spry again what I do? So we we're going to 215 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: get some of his postgame greatness a little later on. 216 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Just from the past couple of years. I do want 217 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: to workshop with you guys in just mainlining highlights of him. 218 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Over the course of the past couple of seasons, I 219 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: have realized that, um, the I think it's the Minnesota 220 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: broadcasting team, but like nobody has quite figured out what 221 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: to say after he does something incredible. They have tried 222 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: answer deadly, answer deadly, uh, and once even tried ants 223 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: bury they're dead, which is like a cool fact. Like 224 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: you ever see aunts like going out like Harry and 225 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: a fallen soldier, and you know, sometimes there will be 226 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: a whole line of them. I don't know, like, can 227 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: we workshop something for that? It doesn't need to be 228 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: right now, but like you know something right because is 229 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: an ant too small too fully encapsulate? Know that your no. 230 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like either because I feel like 231 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: ants are just hard, too small to encapsulate, and a 232 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: name too insufficient to fully embody all of the colleges 233 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: that he contains. Just dunked it. Like that's too wordy. 234 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Ants can lift three hundred times their weight, but like 235 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that's again to word So if it's on the Discovery Channel, 236 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Um, you know who we need 237 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: to consult on this is the Charlotte Hornets broadcasting that 238 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: because they go in every time. So I'm trying to like, 239 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: what could you what could you do for Anthony? So 240 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: this is what I'm not a broadcast something like there 241 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: are more than ten thousand known species of van around 242 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: the world, but the deadly ist just right here in Minnesota. 243 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: Like that's also wordy. I feel like Jack, we always 244 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: talk about how you get mixed up with his name 245 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: for the actor Anthony Edwards from e Er, So maybe 246 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: we my brand will not hold it. I I like 247 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: when we were talking about him on Zeke Guys the 248 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: other day and I was like like I couldn't. I 249 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: couldn't do it because Anthony Edwards. And also I think 250 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: there's like something with like John Edwards like that, like 251 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: just his name needs to be cooler or something. I 252 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: don't know, like we need to brand him so like 253 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: somehow Dr Mark Greene sent this person to the e 254 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: er tom Dr Mark green the character's name, I don't know. 255 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: And maybe that's too washed of a reference to people, 256 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: like I get that one. My mother would appreciate that reference, 257 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, because she was the biggest R fan. But 258 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Natsy got me thinking about, oh, my goodness, is that 259 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: George Clooney on the bench because Anthony Edwards has pulled 260 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: up as his co star. You're like the early seasons 261 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: of the are not many people know that George Clooney 262 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: actually started on her. Like, now we're getting too wordy. 263 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we have to move on from 264 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: aunt Man as the like ant Man is a solid 265 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: heist movie, like its deals it and then dunks it 266 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, especially to ask Anthony Edwards, Yeah, I know 267 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: exactly what were you talking about? He just needs he 268 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: might even just like top of the Martin to you 269 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: because he loves the Irish accent. So maybe that's what 270 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: it is. The anttagonist is that that's not good, right, 271 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Antie easy Buggets, task force what we'll come up with something, 272 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: We'll come he's deserving. Yeah, um, what any anything else 273 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: you guys want to call up from the first weekend 274 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. I mean, obviously Boston Brooklyn was all 275 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: time classic. Yeah, I mean from I mean a small moment. 276 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: I just you know, I like, I like a good block. Um. 277 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: And I would be lying if I said it didn't 278 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: to see Rudy Gobert against Josh Green, that that that 279 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: didn't warm my heart just a little bit. That would 280 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: be a lie, because I just I just love I 281 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: love the clip. It's everything about basketball. You have the 282 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: confidence of Josh Green being like, okay, watch me spin 283 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: off of you. Here we go, and then Rudy Gobert 284 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: being like, you don't think I'm work on my footwork 285 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: constantly in the gym too for this exact situation exactly. 286 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: So let's we'll just we'll play this one quick, because 287 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's it's I don't know I 288 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: think it warms everybody. Sorry, it was unfortunately to be 289 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: a playmaker always shot makes no shots like oh yeah, 290 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: that's everyone. I mean, look, I know Rudy Gobert man 291 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: like he he hears it a lot from a posting 292 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: fans and sometimes the posting players. Man. But that was 293 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: an incredible play right there, Like that was an incredible play, 294 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Like there's no other way around that. That was an 295 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: impressive the recovery and then just also like there was 296 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: something about Green's confidence where he really felt He's like 297 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm out of the wood. Yeah I got And I 298 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: think that's what I also love about a great play 299 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: like that where you're just like, I will denar this moment. 300 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: It reminds me of like those moments when Lebron is 301 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: doing a chase down and you know before the person 302 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: with the ball knows that they're about to get blocked 303 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: because he's like you can see him counting his steps 304 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and like doing the thing that it's like, okay, in 305 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: one point five steps, that's mine and Gilbert, and with 306 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Gilbert they're like that's you know, that was a trap. 307 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: That was a trap that he said. He was like, 308 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go over here, you won't see 309 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: me and then I'm going to uh snatch the Yeah, 310 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: it's like that meme where the guys like call an 311 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: ambulance and then the person is like trying to rob 312 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: them and then they pull out their own life. It's like, 313 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: but not for me. That is one of the all 314 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: time great Internet right there. It's wild because like what, 315 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: there's seven billion people on the plane, yea, what is that? 316 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Like point o two percent of people could ever make 317 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: that play because one, you gotta be tall enough until 318 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: you gotta be athletical. Now there's only a handful of 319 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: people on the planet right now they can make that play. 320 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: So it was it was impressive. Man. You know, it 321 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: was good to see Crusoe back defending like that his 322 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: D on Middleton, even though Milwaukee one game won his 323 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: d like that. That's just somebody who loves to defend. 324 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: This podcast for casual NBA fans is all about defense. 325 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: Part of the game. It is. It is like when 326 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: you're truly watching, like Alex Cruso or Matistabel for the 327 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: Sixers play defense like that. Those are two people who 328 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: I highly recommend when you're watching when they're in the game, 329 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: just follow them around on defense. Just watch stay watching 330 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: them on defense. They love it and they like it's 331 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: kind of ingenious, like the ways they find to disrupt 332 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: whatever the opposing teams doing. I tell you something else 333 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: that I really enjoyed from uh this first weekend playoffs. 334 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, Willie Green doing a great job down in 335 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: New Orleans. And I know he and Chris Paul are 336 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: friends that used to be former teammates and they're really close. 337 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: And I thought Chris Paul's comments after the game where 338 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: they were basically sending people under the screen on Chris Paul, 339 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: basically daring him to shoot, you know, and it's just like, 340 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: do you really want to dare Chris Paul to shoot? Like? 341 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Chris Paul has been one of the best shooters in 342 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: the NBA for pre Obama era, you know, he was 343 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: knocking down buckets then. So it's I don't expect that 344 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: series to be too long, but I do expect New 345 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Orleans to keep it competitive. But Chris Paul at thirty 346 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: six man incredible to watch in the shocking after the 347 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: season seventeen games, Now we defends the freeze the hats, 348 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: the hats sure three four three, Yeah, he plays with 349 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: like the true efficiency of someone who is you know, 350 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: like just seeing the matrix. Now he's like I can 351 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: just you know, I just love anybody like whether it's 352 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: your kisch or other players are just super efficient with 353 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: their body movement. Just like, let me orient myself one 354 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: way and that's enough to give me some space, thank you. 355 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't need to be I'm gonna be gassing myself 356 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: out here. Super producer Jabari asked the question that I 357 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: was actually had this same conversation very recently, like is 358 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: this the best version of CP three? Like is the 359 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: best he's ever been, even though you know his athleticism 360 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: was supposed to have fallen off like three years ago. 361 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: He's on that plant based diet that seems to extend 362 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: people's careers by a number of years. But like he's 363 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: only getting better at like the thing that he's best at, 364 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: which is like knowing exactly how to defeat you, like 365 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: with just like where he puts his body and where 366 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: he puts the ball. I think it's a fair question, 367 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: at man, And you know what I'll say it, I 368 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: think so yeah, I think so man, because obviously one 369 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: you just mentioned how he takes care of his body 370 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: and that he's spoken at length about how that's changed 371 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: his career. And I don't I don't think you can 372 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: short change that. Like, obviously, taking care of your body 373 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: is I mean one even for non athletes, that's huge. 374 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Definitely for athletes it's huge. So uh and then you 375 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: couple that with the fact that like he's playing with 376 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: the best wing player that he's ever played within his 377 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: career and Devin Booker, and uh you I mean, look, 378 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, We've seen how his career in his game 379 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: has flourished alongside alongside Chris paul I injuries notwithstanding cause 380 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: CP three has for the most part battled that throughout 381 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: his career. But I think this is the best version 382 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: of him because he's always going to be a psychopath competitor. 383 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: We're always going to see that, So I mean, and 384 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: and again, his game is not really predicated on being 385 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: the most athletic point guard in the league. You know, 386 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: my as you mentioned it in terms of like efficiency, 387 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: bro like that that dude sees the game. Yeah, unlike 388 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: nine point nine of people who have ever played the 389 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: game of basketball. And literally the only thing he's missing 390 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: from his career is basically being the first to sixteen 391 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: wins in the playoff. Right there, it is all right, 392 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 393 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: talk about the dopest things we've ever seen on a 394 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: basketball court. And we're back and so justin this is 395 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: the point in the show where we like to ask 396 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: our guests a little bit about their relationship to basketball 397 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: and specifically, like what is the dopest thing you've ever 398 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: seen done on a basketball court, NBA or otherwise that 399 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: that's a really good question I can I can kick 400 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: us off with just like the thing that is occurring, 401 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: So Jordan's pool coming through right now and being like 402 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: a third splash triplet, like is it might not be 403 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: like any individual play is the dopest thing I've ever seen, 404 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: or like one of the dopest things I've ever seen, 405 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: But his development and like that franchise is development, like 406 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: raises some questions for me that are like really interesting, 407 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: like because I I feel like he's just learning like 408 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: that they have or you know, they're superstars have figured 409 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: out like how to create themselves, create new players in 410 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: their mold. Like he looks like he is just like 411 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: right on the trajectory of Steph and Clay like that 412 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: might be a bit much, but I don't know, man, 413 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: It's just it's one of those undefinable like qualities that 414 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get picked up when people, like a lot of 415 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation around basketball in the off season, 416 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: like that gets a little tiresome to me. Is like 417 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: when people act like they know what each player is 418 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: worth and like, well, you can't win with that team. 419 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: You have to like move this guy over here, you 420 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: need like three blue chips, and it's like, well, you 421 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: don't know, or like Steph could just like teach Jordan 422 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Pool like every one of his workouts and suddenly Jordan's 423 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: Pool is like thirty points a game and the playoffs 424 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: and just like it's I don't know, it's just really 425 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: cool to see that team developed into the Splash Triplets, 426 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: not at the thirty two Rivers speed the South Park. 427 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: You know. It was I was watching uh game to uh, 428 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: you know, Golden State in Denver and they were kind 429 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: of having a similar conversation about this, So I'm glad 430 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: that you brought it up, Jack, And it's just like 431 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: when people talk about player development in basketball, all too 432 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: often it's about what is the coaching staff gonna do 433 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: for this player? When in reality, yes, the coaching staff 434 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: is important, but like, who are these young players veterans? 435 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Who's teaching them the game? In a sense? And with 436 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: Steph and Clay and Draymond, you say whatever you want 437 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: to about the Warriors, They've always been open and willing 438 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: to be like, Yo, let's let's get this person in 439 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: here and lets you know, this is how we do things. 440 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: How does that mesh with how you've done things? And 441 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: what can we do to bring the best out of 442 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: you as a player. I mean, look, Andrew Wiggins just 443 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: made the All Star team, you know, and so like 444 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: we could say whatever we want to. If you're Jordan Pool, 445 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: you gotta think you're in the best possible situation. Like 446 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm playing alongside arguably the two best shooters of all 447 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: time and a guy who just doesn't mind being a 448 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: hound on the defensive side of the ball but can 449 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: initiate the offense. And Draymond Green, you know like that 450 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: that like you're always going to be open because they 451 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: can't double you, because if they double you, then Stephford 452 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Clay is gonna be left wide overright, And we've already know, 453 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: you can cancel Christmas when that happens. So I agree 454 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: man Jordan's pool. A lot of people either don't know forget. 455 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: I believe it since March one. He just led the 456 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: NBA in three points, you know, like that, and and 457 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: this is a three point heavy league that we're talking about, 458 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: We're saying earlier off Mike Jack is like watching game 459 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: too even and knowing that what the Warriors scored seventy 460 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: points in nineteen minutes and then like and within that 461 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: situation is like, oh, here's six Man of the Year 462 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Steph Curry coming off the bench, like to add insult 463 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: to injury. And it does feel like I play a 464 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: lot of video sports video games for anybody who plays, 465 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: like Career Mode, it's like that part in Career Mode 466 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: where like the star players have to age out and 467 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: they retire, but then you get the region players that 468 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: come up that like replaced the retired ones. It's almost 469 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: as if they just brought a like a region onto 470 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors without any of the the players retiring. 471 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: You're like, wait, but that's so this is just gen z. 472 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, now, who who said video games can't be realized? Yeah, exactly. 473 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I'm like that Leonardo DiCaprio, mean 474 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: pointing at him, like that's a region from a video game. 475 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's I think that really is 476 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: something to watch, because, yeah, that environment says a lot 477 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: about the skills that you learn and the energy that 478 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: you're around, especially to to have players of that stature 479 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: who are willing to give you the space to say, like, 480 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: you know what, like you should you should feel yourself 481 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: too and play with the kind of confidence that we do. 482 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: And everybody is winning. We don't have to talk about 483 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: this year's playoffs. We can go back to Jordan's Shack Penny, 484 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: who who are your guys? Man? I mean, I think 485 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: you watch basketball in the nineties. You you were automatically 486 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: indoctrinated into the school of Jordan's, you know, and like 487 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: it'd be impossible too, And I have a ton of 488 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: memories about a ton of different players. But you know, 489 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I was actually talking to Jabari about this even before 490 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: like you started recording. I guess the most sentimental memory 491 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: that I have in terms of basketball is watching Game 492 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: six of the finals with my uncle and so my uncle, 493 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: just for like full transparency, and I don't mind talking 494 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: about this at all, honestly, it's a great memory for me. 495 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: But obviously Game six at the ninety eight finals was 496 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: what June. And you know, my uncle he passed from 497 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: poland cancer in January. That's the last basketball game he 498 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: and I ever got to watch together. And he was 499 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: the guy that like put me onto like all sports basketball, football, men's, women's, 500 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter, like if it involved competition. He 501 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: just loved to watch it. And like he put me 502 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: onto so much game so much. But you know, Jordan 503 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: was always like one of our favorite people to watch 504 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: because you know, we we were people with a heartbeat 505 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: then watching Michael Jordan played basketball, and I think we 506 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: both knew it time they're like, all right, well, this 507 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: is probably it, you know, like that we weren't saying 508 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: the last Dance at that point where we were like, 509 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: this is probably it. And you know, my uncle at 510 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: that point in time, he was he was sick. He 511 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: wasn't obviously as sick as he would become, but for 512 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: that moment in time, watching that game, for however long 513 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: it was, I think that we both forgot that he 514 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: was sick, you know what I mean. And we were. 515 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: We were just watching Jordan's and you know, like Jordans 516 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: literally carrying that team on his back in Game six 517 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: in Utah. So like whenever I see highlights from that game, like, 518 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't bring back like sad memories, for it brings 519 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: back great memory. And you know, to see Michael Jordan, 520 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: however old he was at that point, I think he 521 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: was like thirty five at that point. You know, go 522 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: fifteen and thirty five and drop forty five and like 523 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: game six and you're just literally watching the dude like no, 524 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: y'all are going across this finish line with me. And 525 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: I'll never forget like seeing that look of like just 526 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: sheer shot, enjoy and amazement and you know, w tf 527 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: is going on? Right? Like how is this guy doing 528 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: this again? And I like my uncle was charing, so 529 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: if he's cheering, I'm cheering. And it was it was 530 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: just a great memory. So like for me, that's probably 531 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: the most sentimental memory I have with with the game. 532 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: That's I mean, I think speaks to why you know 533 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: sport and basketball specifically. It draws you in, right because 534 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: that moment that shot um Brian Russell. For me, I 535 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: remember when I saw that this was like in this 536 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: era where I felt that athletes were superhuman, right when 537 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, he has the ball, he scores because 538 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: he is a god and that's how this works and 539 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: we are immortals. But I can almost have this expectation 540 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: as I watched that this like supernatural performance will happen 541 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: before my eyes. And it's those games like that that 542 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, make good on that promise of like what 543 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: the potential is of sport, and you can really say, 544 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: you can sit there and say, why's this gonna be 545 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: the last shot? It would be poetic if he hits 546 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: this and then that's that, and he does and you 547 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: just sit with that and you cannot believe it. And 548 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: it's like all your own hopes and dreams are put 549 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: into that moment because you live vicariously through the athletes 550 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: that we can't help that. And yeah, there is that 551 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: back quality where like, yeah, for you and your uncle, 552 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: everything melts away except just to just to sit and 553 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: bear witness to like the the absolute out of body 554 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: experience it is to watch these like top tier athletes 555 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: just you know, make it look like it's magic all 556 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: the time. Dude, I'll never forget sitting in his studio 557 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: apartment and Washington, d C. Like right off Constitution that 558 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: I never forget he had it. I used to think 559 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: the studio apartment was like the top floor of the Ritz, 560 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was it was 561 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: the coolest place in where if he lived there, I 562 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, this is cool, like and I 563 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: thought it was huge. Keep it man, that that apartment 564 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: couldn't have been no more than like five square feet. 565 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: But I'll never forget that look on his face when 566 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Jordan hit the shot. All he did was just like 567 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: smirk and just like you know, laugh like this dude 568 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: really did it again, Like he really did that. Yeah. 569 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: So it's you know, if I ever meet Michael Jordan's 570 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: after I wake up from passing out, um, I'll tell 571 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: I'll be sure to tell him that story. There are 572 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: two moments where it felt like for a prolonged series, 573 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: one player was like, actually, I'm going to take over 574 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: as the screenwriter of reality. Um. And it was Jordan's 575 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: in that series and Lebron in the Cleveland Championship series 576 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: where it was just like this feels like all right there, 577 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: like now this story would be too good, Like I'm 578 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: taking over and absolutely no one can stop me. I 579 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: know Karl Malone thinks he knows what's gonna happen here. 580 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna steal the ball from him and then 581 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: come down to hit that shot you mentioned. Obviously Lebron 582 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: in that finals. Obviously Game seven is remember because of 583 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: the block and the shot, and but like game five was, Yeah, 584 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: it was incredible what they both went forty one down 585 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: three one on the road. Yeah, like that that seen finals, 586 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: It was crazy. But like for Lebron, and I think 587 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: one of y'all mentioned it earlier, was Lebron versus the 588 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Pistons and oh seven, Yeah, I call it the first 589 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: forty eight. Yeah, I never which is crazy because we're 590 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: coming up on the fifteen year anniversary of that game. 591 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: Like the fact that that game was fifteen years ago, 592 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget speaking to Dan Yelle Marshall, who 593 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: was of course on the Calves at that point, and 594 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: that the Shauncey Billips, who obviously was on the Pistons, 595 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk to them about what was 596 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: it like playing in that game? And I also spoke 597 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: to a fan who was at the game. Chauncey would 598 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: say like, dude, we made it an intention to like 599 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: one get the ball out of Lebron's hands, but to 600 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: like beat him up, like we wanted him to know, 601 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: like there's not gonna be any easy buckets here. It 602 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: was like it was something about that game five and 603 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: like we did pretty much control the game up until 604 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: that point, and Shaun she was like, it's like the 605 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: light just came right, but for us, the light went 606 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: off and it was just like, yeah, there was nothing 607 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: we could do. It was like yo, Sun, she was like, 608 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: I got I got Lebron. I got Lebron. Then Rashid 609 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: would be like, no, I got Lebron. Then RiPP would 610 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: be like, no, I got Lebron. Then take Shawn would 611 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: be like, no, I got Lebron. The next thing, you know, 612 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: there's got straight and it's like what do we do 613 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: against this guy? And Danielle Marshall on the other and 614 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: it's saying like just play defense. You just play defense. 615 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Clear everybody else kill her play defense? Man. So like that, 616 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: which is I think that's when Lebron really became quote 617 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: unquote the king and a lot of people because he 618 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: was still a phenom at that point. But so yeah, 619 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: that's another great basketball memory of man too. As a 620 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: second over time, that's Jays Yes what oh seven? This 621 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: is uncle, this is George Nesk forty eight points from 622 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Lebron James forty eight points. We'll say it again, the 623 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: last twenty five for the Cavaliers, twenty nine of the 624 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: last thirty one of the great performances of all time 625 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: in playoff history, offered by Lebron James. I'm also class 626 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: of oh three when Lebron left high school, and I 627 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: remember at the time always being like, all right, well, 628 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm in college, but Lebron, Like there 629 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: was this subconscious thing of always comparing myself to Lebron 630 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: James because I'm like, well, this person is also graduating 631 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: at the same time. Let's see where our lives end up. 632 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: And I remember May thirty first, two thousand seven, when 633 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: his game is happening. I'm graduating college, and then I'm like, yeah, 634 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: all right, I know about history, and then like and 635 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: this guy is absolute phenomen and I'm like, okay, and 636 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: then I think that it's oddly enough, that was the 637 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: beginning of for whatever reason, I began to let go 638 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: of this very toxic comparison of like wherever I was 639 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: that compared to Lebron. Yeah, but you got a degree 640 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: Lebron about that. When I beat you, I'll ask you. 641 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: You know who Cardinal Risha Leui is as it relates 642 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: to Louis for the Sun King. You might know him 643 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: as all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be 644 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. NBA players are very funny, 645 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: you know what. One of my favorite things for the 646 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: playoffs was Terris Maxie. You know, I'm a Sixers fan, 647 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: so I was maybe paying a little ext route tension. Uh, 648 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: but he seems to be having so much fun out there. 649 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I feel like he is part of this bumper cry 650 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: of point guards who grew up watching Steph and are 651 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: just like yo, like he can hit from anywhere now 652 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. And but it's also just like 653 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: pure love of the game and pure joy. And there's 654 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: like a thing like we don't think of people just 655 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: like joking around and having fun when they're trash talking. 656 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: But like Fred VanVleet, uh like pushed him and thought 657 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: that he flopped and they were talking about it, and 658 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: uh here we just have that conversation. It's like right 659 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: after the foul was called, Yeah, he felt like maybe 660 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: it was maybe he was play acting a bit, so 661 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: it pushes him gets the call did you try to 662 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: fall down? And I swear to God, I swear to God, 663 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm weak. It's like that you gotta go in the 664 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: weight room. I'm weak, man, that that dude Yismaxie, Like 665 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: it's so fun watching him play, like just for the fact, 666 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: like Jack, like you said, like you can tell he 667 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: just loves playing basketball. And obviously if you know his story, 668 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: it's a wild story. But like it's hard to root 669 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: against that guy. Like it, we're talking about Anthony Edwards earlier, 670 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: Like he has that same type of quality where it's 671 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: like if you dislike him, something is wrong with you 672 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: because this dude he plays hard. So like it, Yeah, 673 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: I love him too because he's a personality. But he's like, look, 674 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm weak. I gotta get songly my second year in 675 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: the league. Man, what you want me to do? Um? 676 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: And then just because we did spend some time with 677 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards this game in the beginning of the episode, 678 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: he's actually made it into the daily zeitgeist, where you know, 679 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: our listeners aren't huge basketball fans, but we had to 680 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: talk about uh, when he was being questioned by an 681 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: Irish dude. Oh yeah, let's play that one. And I 682 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: think again, these are those moments that add to the 683 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: loveability or just kind of like wow this there's something 684 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: so sincere and genuine about him, just from this very 685 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: very simple interaction with the journalist. If you get a 686 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: win tonight, that are re confidence going into those next 687 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: four games against teams in the similar spots. Besides you 688 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: in the table, where are you from, Jim Ireland? I 689 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: like your accents, tough. I want to learn how to 690 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: talk like that. But actual question again, I was too 691 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: much listening to your accent. Yeah, come on, man, like 692 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: you can. You can see it in his face to 693 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: the second he's speaking, he's like is accessing his brain 694 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: being like what am I hearing? Like it's like you 695 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: were hearing like a song for the first time. Straight. 696 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: He's straight out of Atlanta. You know that that comes 697 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: with a certain accident as well. Right, so I venture 698 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: to say he hadn't heard too many Irish accents and 699 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: growing up in Atlanta, And but you could tell like 700 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to be a jerky or anything about that, 701 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: Like he was just genuinely intrigued. And again, man, it's 702 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: just y'all. Y'all said this word a couple of times already, 703 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: the likability of that guy, like you just want to root, 704 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: like I want to see this guy happy because when 705 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: he's happy, he makes me happy, you know so, And 706 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: also just the the honesty to be like, all right, 707 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: ask your question again, because I was distracted by your 708 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: accent is something that I don't And that's the sort 709 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: of honesty that only comes from like just point nine 710 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: percent likability, where it's like you can just say whatever 711 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: you want. People are like, oh, man, I love you, 712 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: but also being like I like your accent and I 713 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: want to learn to talk like that, like the highest compliment, 714 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: but the highest compliment. And I also like treating an 715 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: Irish accent like a foreign language, like I'm going to 716 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: get the Rosetta stone on that accident and started talking 717 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: like that. If he just dropped an Irish accent on 718 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: us next season, like that would be incredible. Like he 719 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: comes back next season, like what was the off season? 720 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: Like he's like, I was just in the gym man 721 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: watching Angela's ashes on because I'm trying to get that 722 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: Irish section locked in. It would be incredible to see 723 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 1: him and that reporter have a conversation in an Irish action. Yeah. 724 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: Just I hope wherever that guy is, Jim, I hope 725 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: he comes back and ask him a question. We're gonna 726 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: find it follow up. That's my that's my new favorite 727 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: buddy cop movie. Yeah right. I love that Interpol has 728 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: a new case. They have to team up this Irish 729 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: detective with Anthony Edwards. I'm like, let's go. I'm there 730 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: opening night. Yeah. Also, Jim's accent is cool, Like not 731 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: all Irish accents sound like that. That's like a great 732 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: Irish accent, and like that combination of words. He sounded 733 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: really cool saying it and just having the you know, 734 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 1: poetic soul to stop and be like, hey, you sound 735 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: a really cool thing that. Yeah, those words sound cool 736 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: in your voice is wonderful. I'm really into the Irish brogue, 737 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of switch up my whole swag. 738 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: But also speaking to like his honesty. Right, we were 739 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: talking about his postgame comments too, and you can just 740 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: tell from the way he speaks he's not trying to 741 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: trick himself into believing what he's saying. You can tell 742 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: like there's just this sincerity that comes across where you 743 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: can say, oh, this person is this confident and truly 744 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: believes in himself and also again just giving us another 745 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: moment of being confident while also lovable and speaking like 746 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: my grandpa. Know, a lot was made about their pace, 747 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: their physicality. What do you think you were able to 748 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: show here about your style of play and ability to 749 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: control the game that we're the ones? Jack? Yeah that's it, Jack, 750 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: old school player for real saying Jack, all right, love it? 751 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: I mean wow, yeah, they just you can't. I don't 752 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: know how you how you get upset about that? You know? Yeah, 753 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: that's that's beautiful. The problems with you not him again 754 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: that let that be the rule from this right right here. 755 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: The problems with you not open your arms and accept 756 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: the blessing that is, we are watching somebody where if 757 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: this is we're not even close to seeing what the 758 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: ceiling is for this person. So if this is the 759 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: first floor, like where in the lobby? Yeah yeah, this 760 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: is the lobby? Big fact? All right? Justin truly a 761 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the on the show Man. Where uh, 762 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: first of all, where can people find you? And also 763 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm very excited. I am. If I sound distracted, 764 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: it's because I'm furiously pre ordering your book. It was 765 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: all a dream, Diggie and the world that made him 766 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: out made tenth. But yeah, tell us about the book 767 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: and tell us where we can find you on social media. Well, 768 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: I'll get the social media out the way first. It's 769 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: actually really easy. It's my name, Justin tenseley On. I'm 770 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: most active on Twitter and Instagram. I'm on Facebook, uh 771 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: for the professionals out there, I do have a LinkedIn profile. 772 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: I have not yet mastered how to use TikTok. I 773 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get my little cousin to teach me 774 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: how to Just that's what I do. I'm you know, 775 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: yeah that that that's all I do. I got the app, 776 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: but I don't post any But in terms of the book, 777 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, as you said, it comes out May tenth. 778 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: Beyond excited for it, man, I'm doing a lot of 779 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: traveling uh the next couple of weeks, just in promotion 780 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: for it. Uh and just in relation to what we've 781 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: been talking about here, which is just all things in NBA. UH. 782 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: When you when you pick up the book, when you 783 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: read it, you will see that there is like an 784 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: NBA influence on the book. I didn't necessarily get a 785 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: chance to interview Alan Iverson for this, but he's over 786 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 1: the course of his life in his career, he's spoken 787 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: about Biggie Smalls and about their relationship because they were 788 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: actually very cool and uh, Biggie. In the book, there's 789 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: a scene. I won't give away the entire scene because 790 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: obviously I want you to order the book, but there's 791 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: a scene where Biggie gets up he goes to a 792 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: Clippers sixers game and late February ninety seven, because Biggie 793 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: also knew the late Malik Silly who was playing for 794 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: the Clippers at that point in time, and he was 795 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: obviously close with Ai And there's a really great scene 796 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: that I think is painted in that it just shows 797 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: like the humanity of who, like Biggie Smalls was, Christopher 798 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: Wallace was. And you know, I spoke to Shock, who 799 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to be at the party at the Peterson 800 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: Automotive Museum where you know that was the final moments 801 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 1: of Biggie's life, but actually overslept because he and Shock 802 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: were very cool. They recorded the song together and on 803 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 1: Biggie's debut album, Ready to Die. He name drops Shot, 804 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: who was I believe maybe in his second year in 805 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: the league at that point with the Orlando Magic, so 806 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: they had a tight relationship for a while. And Grant Hill, 807 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: he's actually in the book because he was he was 808 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: he was actually at the party that night at the 809 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: Peterson Automotive Museum, so he he saw Biggie for a 810 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: couple of moments at that party. So in terms of 811 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: NBA connections, uh, those are definitely in there. But I 812 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: do hope this book for a lot of people who 813 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: may know obviously know who Biggie Smalls is, I do 814 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: hope this paints him in a more humanistic light, just 815 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: shows that, like his life was more than just you know, 816 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: big hit records, beef with Tupac, and then had a 817 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: very infamous death. Yes, all of that is part of 818 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: the story, but it's not the entire story. It's just 819 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: it's honestly, chap was of a very long story of 820 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: a guy who it was only twenty four years old 821 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: when you passed. I mean, he was, It's unbelievable. So Biggie, 822 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: it was all a dream. Uh, it was all a dream. 823 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: Bigge in the world that made him out on May tenth. 824 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: Please pre order. Pre orders are actually very important for 825 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: for for books. Uh so, yeah, I hope you read it. 826 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it, and you hit me up 827 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram or TikTok. I may see it 828 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 1: on there, I may not, but the definitely Twitter and Instagram. 829 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. And also too, I'll 830 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: use this this shameless plug if you go wherever you 831 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: get your podcasts, you can listen to the King of Crenshaw. 832 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: That's another project that I did with the Deep NBA 833 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: Connection that talks about Nipsey House's brotherhood with uh several 834 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: players within the NBA and how that influenced them not 835 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: not just on the court, but more so off the court, 836 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: and why that friendship will forever remain important to them. 837 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: So amazing. And you're working on something with Dwayne Wade too. 838 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So Dwyane Wade came up with a photographic 839 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: memoir It's called Dwayne and I got a chance to 840 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: work with him personally on that, which is one of 841 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: the great highlights of my career. Um, Dwyane Way, who 842 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: just happens to be uh Tyrese Maxie's favorite player, growing 843 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: up and you can kind of see in the dis 844 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: the intensity of their games. Yes, so I got a 845 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: chance to basically work with him and got you know, 846 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: tell his life story and that that was that was incredible. 847 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 1: So like it's it's a it's a great, great coffee 848 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: table material, U d wad shout out to d Waight, 849 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: an incredible guy. Love working with him, and uh, I 850 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: consider a friend now. It's amazing. All right, got some 851 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: good friends, man, trying to Yeah, miles, where can people 852 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 1: find you? Oh find me at Miles of Gray, wherever 853 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 1: there's at Symbols, You'll find me there. You can find 854 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian, you can find 855 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: us on the dailies like guys y finding this some 856 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: other way and yeah, that's gonna do it. Um, that's 857 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: been another episode of the