WEBVTT - Behind the Scenes in San Francisco | BONUS  

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Stephanie back with the bonus episode. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play you some behind the scenes tape from my

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<v Speaker 1>two reporting trips to San Francisco. The first one is

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<v Speaker 1>from the night of the continuance. After Laura filed and

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<v Speaker 1>Americans with Disabilities Act accommodation with the court and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>was told his hearing would be continued in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Spirits were low. People who had been following the case

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<v Speaker 1>felt defeated, and so did Mike. The evening of the continuance,

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<v Speaker 1>I met up with journalist Megan Fox to hear how

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of her day unfolded.

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<v Speaker 2>Start recording.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're ready, yep, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was around eight thirty pm. Meghan and I sound

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted because we were.

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<v Speaker 2>The first question I have for you is what was

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<v Speaker 2>your reaction to what happened today?

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<v Speaker 4>It was awful. I couldn't process it until after I

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<v Speaker 4>did some exit interviews with Omar and Clayton. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>process it for a while. I'm not even sure I

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<v Speaker 4>still have. I'm not even sure that I have. But

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<v Speaker 4>there was a moment when Omar and Mike walked out

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<v Speaker 4>of the courtroom and I could see that they were

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<v Speaker 4>both crying. That was hard, really hard, and my heart

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<v Speaker 4>just fell to the floor. And after I heard what happened,

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<v Speaker 4>I went to Danielle, who was sobbing, and I hugged

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<v Speaker 4>her and she fell on my shoulders and sobbed. And

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<v Speaker 4>that was awful. But there was something inside of me

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<v Speaker 4>that was keeping me from having any emotion whatsoever. All

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<v Speaker 4>I said to her was we're not going anywhere, We're

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<v Speaker 4>not leaving you, and we'll be here, and she was

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<v Speaker 4>just sobbing, and it was It was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>We now know that after the alleged life threatening circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>that caused Laura to miss the hearing, she showed up

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<v Speaker 1>at a horse competition that very same week, where she

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<v Speaker 1>was show jumping and winning ribbons. The online community banded

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<v Speaker 1>together on live streams. They launched a fundraiser to help

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<v Speaker 1>Mike with the expenses of having to come back to

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<v Speaker 1>court again in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>It was insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I didn't intend for it to be

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<v Speaker 3>a fundraising stream. I just wanted to tell them what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to have a better stream than yesterday. Because

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<v Speaker 3>the WiFi went down, the power went out. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a nightmare. My computer died. It was just a shit show,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to have a smooth stream and just

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<v Speaker 3>tell them what happened and prepare them for a fact

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<v Speaker 3>that there would be a fundraising stream, because I had

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<v Speaker 3>already called Dave and like, we got to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think we would raise any money today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to direct them to the fundraiser and

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<v Speaker 3>I tell them, if you have it, give it, he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to need it. They started donating to the GoFundMe

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<v Speaker 3>so fast and furious that in the first hour of

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<v Speaker 3>the stream, it was like four thousand dollars was raised

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<v Speaker 3>in an hour. And that's when it started to hit

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<v Speaker 3>me that, oh my god, we thought we weren't going

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to raise thirty five hundred for the

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<v Speaker 3>court reporter. We just passed four thousand and one hour.

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<v Speaker 3>The community is just going nuts, and it kept going.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time I was done with two hours of streaming,

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<v Speaker 3>they were at ten thousand dollars. Ten thousand more dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think that that that what happened today

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<v Speaker 2>sparked that with everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's giving up here. This is not what she thinks

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<v Speaker 3>it is. She didn't stop anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks later, I went back to San Francisco for

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<v Speaker 1>the continued hearing. Like I said in episode eleven, it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like deja vus. The continuance threw a wrench into

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<v Speaker 1>things for everyone, most of all for Mike and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife Danielle, but also for the court system. Space is limited,

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<v Speaker 1>and that time could have gone to someone who would

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<v Speaker 1>have actually shown up. Even Mike's attorney, Omar Serrato, had

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<v Speaker 1>a family vacation planned that had to be rescheduled due

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<v Speaker 1>to the continuance.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's Omar, So I had a vacation planned, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I come home and I tell my wife that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it got continued in Hazel bad news, bad news, and

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<v Speaker 5>then she's like what what?

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<v Speaker 6>And you could imagine how that conversation went. She was

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<v Speaker 6>very supportive, she was angry, she was really sad. She

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<v Speaker 6>has some choice words for Laura, but she understood the

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<v Speaker 6>mission and she's like, if I'm gonna miss my vacation,

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<v Speaker 6>you better just fucking finish this. It costs US thirty

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<v Speaker 6>three hundred dollars for the cancelation, fear whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, well, I just gone to the wind, huh, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Guess, and I just prompted, Look, look, we will go

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<v Speaker 6>on a better vacation. I promise somehow we're gonna make

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<v Speaker 6>this right.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 6>I will make it up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>This example might sound small, but it just proves the

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<v Speaker 1>ripple effect of Laura's actions. On my second reporting trip

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<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco, the energy was markedly different. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom with everyone when the domestic violence restraining

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<v Speaker 1>order against Mike was dismissed. I left the courthouse that

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<v Speaker 1>day with Mike's attorneys, Omar Serrato and Rachel Warrez. We

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<v Speaker 1>called a WEIMO, one of those self driving cars.

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<v Speaker 7>It's my first weaylow. It's like a celemation, WEYMO.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear the energy and relief in Rachel's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>We all piled in and debriefed the DVRO dismissal.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me how it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, it went as well as it possibly could have gone.

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<v Speaker 6>It was literally best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, in every respect.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I should start with lit. Yeah, the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>we didn't have to say anything. It was exactly what

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<v Speaker 6>we were hoping for and what my fear was. And

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<v Speaker 6>I was starting to get nerves, like, hey, it's like

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<v Speaker 6>almost nine thirty. We're still not in the courtroom, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was telling Rachel, Hey, they might be having like

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<v Speaker 6>another end camera. I'm having flashbacks. I'm telling them. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>telling Mike, uh, don't get your hopes up. Be prepared

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<v Speaker 6>for everything. Because when they called us in and let

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<v Speaker 6>everybody in and they basically started just conducting it as

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<v Speaker 6>if they're going to start a trial, I started to

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<v Speaker 6>feel better about it. Yes, and then they make note

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<v Speaker 6>of the time it is. It is nine thirty. We

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<v Speaker 6>were scheduled for nine o'clock. I don't see lower Owens

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<v Speaker 6>here in the lobby or even here on zoom. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to dismiss the case. But before that, she

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<v Speaker 6>cracked a joke with the court reporter. Oh, I guess

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<v Speaker 6>this is gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Be a quick one.

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<v Speaker 3>She did.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was what I felt much better. A sigh

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<v Speaker 7>of relief. Yeah, And this really was as gratifying as

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<v Speaker 7>it would have been to, you know, present her with

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<v Speaker 7>all the evidence that Laura was at a horse show,

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<v Speaker 7>and she's done all these other things to other courts

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<v Speaker 7>before like this. Any additional evidence that got presented just

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<v Speaker 7>creates more possibility for chaos, which is I think what

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<v Speaker 7>Laura thrives on. So the fact that the judge kept

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<v Speaker 7>it so simple. She was ordered to be here, she

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<v Speaker 7>did not appear. I told her the consequences it's dismissed

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<v Speaker 7>is really the best result I think in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>trying to minimize the work and chaos going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>What are her options after this appeal?

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<v Speaker 7>She can appeal. I don't think she has a good appeal,

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<v Speaker 7>but she can appeal. She can also she can seek

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<v Speaker 7>another restraining order. She has lots of options to make

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<v Speaker 7>sure this doesn't end.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think she will continue on with that knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that there's the criminal case going on in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, because.

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<v Speaker 4>There was no hesitation.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, she would have.

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<v Speaker 6>She would have never brought this if that was going

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<v Speaker 6>to be a determ.

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<v Speaker 7>The only thing Laura seems to have any fear of

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<v Speaker 7>is testifying in person. Yeah, and being subject to cross examination,

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<v Speaker 7>which is not smart because in many ways submitting a

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<v Speaker 7>written declaration is more potentially dangerous than having in person testimony.

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<v Speaker 7>But she does not seem to be fully aware of.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess the consequences of submitting a written declaration that's

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<v Speaker 7>a lie?

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<v Speaker 2>What grounds would she even have to file a new one.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, yeah, she would say that Mike is behind

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<v Speaker 7>the JFC account. She would say that Mike walked by

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<v Speaker 7>her house, but she can't prove it. Or she could

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<v Speaker 7>just say she wants one for all stuff that has already happened.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean she will win that way, but she can

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<v Speaker 7>say whatever she wants. Yeah, and so I really think

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<v Speaker 7>she'll go the Appellet route frankly, and then only if that.

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<v Speaker 7>I think she wants to maximize how long this goes,

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<v Speaker 7>how involved she can be. So I think she'll pursue

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<v Speaker 7>the Appellet route, and then after that doesn't work, I

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<v Speaker 7>think we'll see another restraining order saying like Mike stalking me.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>If that happens, good luck.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't see him even granting a temporary.

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<v Speaker 6>Now if she falls in this county, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>it even have to be in Arizona, but they know

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<v Speaker 6>about her up there too, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything else that you guys want to say about today,

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<v Speaker 2>how you're feeling. Did anybody else think it was crazy

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<v Speaker 2>that it was raining all morning and then the moment

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<v Speaker 2>we walked out of the courtroom there was sun.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, you saw this sudden. Yeah, No, I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>really seeing Mike and his family there. It really reminds

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<v Speaker 7>you that this has been his life. It's been so

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<v Speaker 7>debilitating in so many ways over the last however many

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<v Speaker 7>years for him. Seeing him so relieved and seeing his

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<v Speaker 7>family so relieved, I think it was worth everything that's

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<v Speaker 7>been put into it, because he didn't deserve this.

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<v Speaker 6>And the thing is like we've experienced it like two

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<v Speaker 6>weeks ago when we were back here and we thought

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<v Speaker 6>that we had a mutual dismissal. Oh that whole thing,

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<v Speaker 6>and they were celebrating and Mike is in tears and

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<v Speaker 6>everybody was in tears. And then I'm sitting there my

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<v Speaker 6>phone is buzzing in my pocket, like what is this.

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<v Speaker 6>Laura's asking for a remote links or whatever. But she

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<v Speaker 6>says she was going to be there to whatever. And

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<v Speaker 6>then I got another one saying she asked for a

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<v Speaker 6>link for David Jingers. That's right, And I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 6>is going what's going on? And then I email Laura, Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I thought we had an agreement. I think that's still

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<v Speaker 6>the case. And then she says, no, we don't have

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<v Speaker 6>an agreement. Just like that. I'm like, he just the

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<v Speaker 6>devastation in that moment. Mike wasn't devastated in that moment.

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<v Speaker 6>He wasn't I was pissed. Yeah, I was genuinely pissed.

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<v Speaker 6>We were up until like two am that night. I

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<v Speaker 6>went back to working on my cross. People are putting

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<v Speaker 6>together the trial notebooks, you know, people were documenting stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>That whole night was just this weird blurb.

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<v Speaker 7>You can only imagine how it feels for Mike. This

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<v Speaker 7>is not nothing to him. You know, this has been

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<v Speaker 7>his life and the emotional roller coaster for us, just

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<v Speaker 7>because we're invested legally, and also because Mike has become

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<v Speaker 7>a friend, you know, who we care about. The emotional

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<v Speaker 7>rollercoaster for us and you and the people that have

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<v Speaker 7>been following this is so much that even two weeks,

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<v Speaker 7>last minute back and forth, it's not like a regular

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<v Speaker 7>trial where you're still kind of like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 7>I was ready, now I'm not. That's a lot of adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 7>This is like devastation and then elation, and then you

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<v Speaker 7>know it's circling through those emotions so quickly it takes a.

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<v Speaker 5>Toll on it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the truth.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the trials, and they get continued and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Zion whatever, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dude in a month.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but there's never like an audience are like this

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<v Speaker 6>ground swell of support for somebody. That just adds in

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<v Speaker 6>a variable that I did not account for because just

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<v Speaker 6>seeing the devastation I could handle it. I was pissed,

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<v Speaker 6>but then seeing everybody else being pissed, it just further

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<v Speaker 6>sinks you into this place. So when you ask me

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<v Speaker 6>what do you feel, I feel nothing. I was not

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<v Speaker 6>going to acknowledge any negative. I can't get too low.

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<v Speaker 6>It's look, we'll be back in two weeks. That was

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<v Speaker 6>the only thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>So time to celebrate now, yes, now I feel all

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<v Speaker 2>the things.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, yep, let's go celebrate, and we're going to toast

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<v Speaker 7>a Judge Gold.

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<v Speaker 6>I think yes to Judge Gold.

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