WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: The Micah Effect 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:18.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.239 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:33.360 Star in Frisco, and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:45.839 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's help. For 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.440 the first time in twenty twenty one, it is a 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:54.920 Victory Monday on Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos. The official 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.000 chip and tip of the Dallas Cowboys is the Cowboys 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.560 way Ship and dipped out with a win over the 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.039 Los Angeles Chargers. Twenty to seventeen was the final score 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.680 on the road as the Cowboys get back to five 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.279 hundred one and one through two weeks of the NFL season. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.399 We're gonna talk about it here over the next couple minutes. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.200 We've got Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, kick My Harrison, 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.520 I'm Kyle Yeomans, and I don't want to waste any 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.280 time getting our thoughts because this was a gritty win 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.720 for the Dallas Cowboys, and man, it was beginning to 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.679 end gritty. It wasn't pretty. You were missing five of 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.000 your starters. But Rob Phillips. The Cowboys got the job 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.240 done and they converted when they needed to real quick. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.480 I just looking up. The last victory Monday for the 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.520 Cowboys was December on this show was December twenty eight, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.160 twenty twenty. So it's been a wild pellas it's been 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.960 a while, way too long. Yeah, I'm gonna steal Isaiah's point. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.640 We know each other so well doing this show. I 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.960 think by this point it's a character win for the 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:56.240 Cowboys going on the road opposite coast, all the guys 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.240 that they had missing a real chance of being O 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.600 and two. I mean, that's a good Charger team. I 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.080 look forward to seeing a lot of Pat Mahomes justin 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.800 Herbert battles in the AFC title game in the coming years. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.920 Maybe Lamar Jackson has something to say about that, but 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.400 that's gonna be a team to deal with over the 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.480 next few years if they continue building right and they 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.600 found a different way to win this game they than 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.799 they almost won in Week one, and I think that's 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.840 a credit to the players obviously, but the coaches as well, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.120 specifically Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore, for making adjustments from 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.200 week one and based off the guys they were missing. Yeah, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.440 I mean these guys coaches use their personnel, you know, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.240 they used the personnel that they had and ensted up. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.840 They're making excuses about all we're missing this guy, this 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.400 guy's down, this guy won't be back for five more weeks, 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.160 whatever the case may be. They use their personnel. Not 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.760 only dan Quinn did he do it like we knew 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.480 he would, right, that's what he got, That's what he does. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.560 But Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore is continuing to find ways 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.560 to get his playmakers the ball. Now people want to 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.040 argue and say, well, this playmaker is getting paid this much. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.560 It's about match ups. This game is all about matchups. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.760 You can give the person who has the most, who 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.200 gets the most money, the most playing time, and all 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.160 that jazz, But guess what if it results in a loss, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.200 then then what is it for? Right, It's about winning games. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.240 So if it's if it's about dog On Pollard getting 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.280 getting the ball more than Zeke that game, and guess what, 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.639 that's what it takes. You heard Zeke after the game. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.560 Whoever has a hot hand, that's who we're rolling with. Defensively, 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.920 Michael Parsons, guess what we dropped him as a linebacker. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:25.880 But guess what else, That boy went down there and 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.400 played like a dog at defensive end and gave some 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.920 dog on problems and gave Herbert some happy feet when 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.680 we need him to have some happy feet, and forced 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.080 some incompletions overall, special teams. We still got some work 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.480 to do. We still got some work to do. But 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.600 great delay. Like I said in the post game show, 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.040 that boy dusted off that the old old little you know, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.080 a little dust off the lawn more and he fired 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.760 that thing up. And after you fired that law more up, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.600 you know, it just keeps turning right, you know, the 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.280 old faithful after that, so he was good to go. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:59.320 So overall, great win to sponsor. Ye no idea, No, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.400 I love the balance. I love the balance from Kellen Moore. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.640 We've talked about him, and the red zone walls solved him. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.600 You know, we saw the first two red zones came out, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.760 got scores, I mean, and it was and again it 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.680 was the balance for me, incorporating the run with the past, 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.160 it looked like a healthy balance of this offense. But defensively, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.280 you're you're right, dan Quinn was dialing it up. Then 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.360 he was dialing up the entire game. And you know, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:27.880 I think there was a point in the game where 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.560 you were seeing Michael Parsons he was like, oh man, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.000 this is you know, it looked as though he wasn't 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.040 winning those battles, and then all of a sudden, like 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.560 he must have heard the whispers and he poured it on. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.720 I mean, getting that pressure. And there are a lot 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.280 of people that are going to be saying, you know, look, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.640 let score aheadn't put him at the defensive end position. No, no, no, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.760 we did that out of necessity. But boy, isn't it 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.400 good that in necessity you have a player like that 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.120 on your roster that can actually get it done and 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.520 get those pressures. We still didn't get the pressure up 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.760 the middle that we wanted from our defense, and that's 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.280 whe of the things that I think is going to 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.240 torment us as the season goes along. But again, it's 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.400 a great win, team win. And Greg the leg boy, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.160 you had a sitting on the edge of our seat. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.720 I don't think the fifty six yard touchdown was the 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.920 one that they were trying to do, but hey, I'm 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:20.000 just happy legatround came through. Yeah, fifty six yard game 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.159 winning field goal. As time expires to win it twenty 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.600 to seventeen, and there weren't I mean, there were positives 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.840 and negatives. It wasn't all good for the Cowboys, and 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.960 we're certainly going to break that down throughout the week, 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.279 But I want to start with the positives on offense. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.159 Oh yeah, you mentioned it. I think both of y'all 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.520 mentioned it. Balance. We were questioning it going into the week. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.120 You can't go into every football game and throw it 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.960 fifty eight times with Dak Prescott and expect to win. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.320 And not only did they have balance, but they share 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.600 the love. I mean Tony Pollard, sure he had a 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.160 great game thirteen carries, one hundred and nine yards and 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.880 a touchdown. But Ezekiel Elliott sixteen for seventy one and 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.960 a touchdown. That's a much better game than he had 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.679 last week as well. Talk about CD and his one carry? 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:08.600 What if I tell you CD would What's going on? 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.720 You saw some different looks the play calling? Was there? 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.320 Rob in the tenure of Kellen Moore? Have you seen 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.919 this level of creativity and effectiveness from the play caller 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:22.880 at come offense? The only one I can think of 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.680 is when Benda Nucci started against the Eagles, and that 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.800 was out of like, look, man, we gotta empty the 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.800 bag because we got to help this young guy out. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.960 I thought that was this. I'd have to really think 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.320 about it because I said last week that was Dak's 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.159 best start ever. And then I went back and yeah, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.400 I think it was against Tampa Bay. I think that's 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.040 the best play calling we've seen from Kellen Moore so 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.360 far in three seasons. As the oc here and Mike 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.120 McCarthy mentioned, it was a patient game too. He was 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.720 patient and they they flipped the game plan from what 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.760 they did against Tampa Bay. That's the sign of a 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.839 good offense, and that's the sign of a good play caller. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.960 You look at the coverage. It was at Tampa's coverage. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.960 They played kind of shell stuff playing back and we 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.720 saw it. We talked about it during the week. There 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.880 were some gaps in that in that almost said San 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.160 Diego that La Chargers defense to run on, and they 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.280 just went with the hot hands. He got his touches. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.360 He actually had three more carries than Pollard, but Pollard 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.640 was was cooking last night. And man, it helps to 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.160 have Zack Martin back. I mean, one of those touchdown drives. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.280 It was just like I just run behind seventy. You 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.760 know he was. He was fantastic in the game. It 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.600 just shows you the difference that Zack Martin makes on 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:35.240 our offensive line immediately. But my man T Steele. I 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.400 think we all went in nervous about Terrence Steele, and 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.080 he literally showed you that with a little bit of help, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.120 he can be a serviceable swing tackle. And so let's 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.200 put that maybe for now, let's put that whole conversation 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:53.400 to bed. But I remember Michael Irvin on the game 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.960 that one of the pregames that we had talking about 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.720 Terren Steele and likning him to big Big E, you know, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.280 just saying that big E when he came in Eric Williams, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.520 former tackle for the for the Dallas Cowboys, and how 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:07.680 you know, look at his rookie year. He was just 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.840 getting baptized by Reggie White guys like that. And finally 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.680 it started to, you know, see that confidence building for him. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.840 And I think this was a confidence building game, And 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.840 so I want the next four games for Terrence still 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.360 to be just like this. We did a lot of 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.760 a lot of good things on the right side, and 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.640 a lot of good things were helping him. Yeah, absolutely right. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.800 And you know, I think I mentioned this a while back, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.000 but you know, Kelly Moore, I think he watched The 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.160 water Boy. I'm convinced he watched The water Boy because 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.880 he remember that little green booklet. He poured that green 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.400 bucklet out. He poured it out, and he went straight 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.319 to that joining he called up some stuff that we 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.760 never expected. I know, when I saw CD in the 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.360 back of it, I was like, what in the entire 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.199 heck is going on? See what I did there? And 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.640 I was concerned because they weren't giving the ball Zeke 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.240 at that time, right, and we're really I know, we're 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:54.960 having a little discussion in the studio. I was like, man, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.440 what the heck is going on right there? Giving Zeke 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.440 the ball? And I was like, oh, okay, balance right. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.920 I don't really I don't think this really just terminally applies. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.760 But you know, he did a heck of a job. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.400 I want to go to Heckman's dude, the schultzen Nigger, Yes, sir, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.439 the Schultzenigger Scholtz bald out Now, whether you gotta see 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.000 it show up in the stat sheet or not, which 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:17.040 it didn't. It did not. The boy bald out let 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.600 me tell y'all from the analytical perspective, he was putting 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.840 his hat in there. He held Bossa at bay when 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.319 he had had his opportunities. He was putting his head 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.199 in there. He was gritting it out. He was grinding 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.560 these boys, was working up front hard. Up front. They 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.800 took not only the first level out the game, but 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.760 there is a dude named Murray who just happened to 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.640 be at the second level. Took him out the game too, 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.560 and I personally thought that he was going to present 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.719 a major problem for us at that second level. And 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.280 I think he ended up getting injured for a good 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:44.959 portion of the game. He was hurt, but he was 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.480 a non factor. He was a non factor, absolutely. Yeah. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.280 But Darren James, man, I mean just seeing him live 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.160 as well, just seeing him all over the field. You 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.520 love it when you see you have a free safety 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.520 that can do that. But look, man, Malik Hooker boy, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.839 I saw twenty eight splash so at the line of 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:05.200 scrimmage about twenty seven seven. Hey, I'm going out, Let's 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.480 go down the line. Let's go. I mean because we 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.520 had really good safety help over the top. Now there's steal. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.960 Some things that we need to do in the secondary. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.920 But this is all positive today. But Aiden's dad is 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.920 pretty good. Oh yeah, I'm gonna stick with offense. We're 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.719 gonna go defense in the SEC segment, So staying with 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.400 the offensive side. And I want to keep this conversation 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.880 on the offensive line going as well, because you could 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.080 give a game ball to Tony Pollard, you could give 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.880 a game ball to Dak Prescott in the way that 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.520 he worked. But there was concern around Terrence Steele. And 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.720 then of course the return of Zach Martin. No concern 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.480 there because my goodness, he's as good as he's been. Well, 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.599 what about Tyren Smith on the left side, because I 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.800 thought he was just as good as he's been prior 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.400 to his injuries as well. Had I guess you could 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.560 say one hiccup where he gave up the sack there 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.000 at the end of the drive. That's one. And and 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.160 Kyler Facker, if you watched him in week one, he's 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.880 a pretty good rusher off the edge for them. He's 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.280 Joey Bosa. But that was the one play where you 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.400 noticed Tyrn Smith in terms of oh, this didn't go well. Yeah, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.199 so he was fantastic, But I think you have to 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.079 give the game ball to Terrence Steele. Yeah, and I 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.120 think you have to give the Cowboys credit for they 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.000 were right. I mean, they felt better about Terrence Steele 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.520 than then a lot of people did, you know, And 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.719 if Niseki had been healthy and he's okay after that 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.400 heat exhaustion episode he had, which is scary as heck. Yeah, 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.599 he's discharged from the hospital. But but um, you know, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.439 it would be interesting to see what they would have 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.599 done there, you know, I know Jerry said during the 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.200 week it would have been Terrence Steele. Maybe we would 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.200 have seen Tiniski. I don't know, but yeah, I mean 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.520 he's a much better player than he was last year. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.920 It's it's clear. I mean you could see it. And 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.240 look Zack Martin being there. I can't stress enough because 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.720 you mentioned the tight ends helping out there. You saw 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.000 some combination blocks to Zach kind of getting over to 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.160 help there too and move inside on the edge. So 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.200 it was just a good performance overall. By the old line. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.680 You think, whenever Dak Prescott gets up there and he's 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.400 in the shotgun and he's got those guys in front 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.920 of him, it doesn't really matter who's outside at the tackles. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 A whole lot as long as seventy is there, And 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.360 I mean, you would like having seventy seven and seventy 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.560 one sure the tackles, and we saw that last year. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.679 If both of them are missing, then it's gonna be 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.080 at least at times a problem. But man, having seventy 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.760 up there, I feel like just gives Dak Prescott so 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.640 much more confidence. It gives Ezekiel Elliott, gives Tony Pollard 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.199 confidence because then they have holes to run through. And 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.560 we saw that all day yesterday, the entire offense. Kyle 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.800 when number seventy swits over, I mean, because you understand 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.480 that you have one of the best in the league 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.280 that's doing it. But I just love to change a 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.920 pace between Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott and just the 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:54.720 coaching staff's ability to recognize use your playmakers. I almost 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.240 thought in the first half that maybe Zeke had gotten benched. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.640 It's like, well, you know what's going on because of 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.439 the way that Poler was hitting the hole. But that 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.959 was just the whole game plan and mixing these guys in, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.240 and I think it paid dividends. Like Dallas Cowboys are 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.240 eleven and old when they go for one hundred and 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.160 seventy five yards rushing eleven and old that that is 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.120 something that is I mean, come on, I'm just I'm 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.800 just saying that is something that we can build on 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.560 with this running game. And no matter how it looks 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.600 on the stat sheet. Look, man, it doesn't matter how 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.080 many guys you have doing it. Keep this up because 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.719 it works, especially Tony Poler catching out the backfield and 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.079 also Zeke. Man. I just think it got to a 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.640 certain point point in the game where the Chargers was 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.040 just like having to honor everything that we did. There 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.680 was a point in the game kind of like you said, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.440 where I was like, I wonder if they even if 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.120 they win this game. I wonder if the talk is 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.199 gonna be well, Zeke's still not getting enough touches, you know, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.640 because he's not. He's doing well, but he's not. Poler's 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.760 the guy. What's his role on all stuff. I don't 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160 think it really mattered. This is what they want, This 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.800 is perfect. They talked about this during training camp, like, 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.880 Zeke's got a couple three hundred carry seasons on his resume. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.040 Let's get him to December and get him totally fresh 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.920 for the stretch run. And by the way Tony Pollard 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.800 is really good. We need to play him, damn you know. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.360 That's and that's what they got. So I think that's 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.040 a great point. There were points in that game when 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.719 you're looking at it and if you look at the 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.640 stats and you're gonna see, yeah, they put up four 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.559 hundred yards, there's only twenty points on the board. This 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.040 is the lowest scoring win for the Dallas Cowboys. It's 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.120 what twenty seventeen. I think. I think this is as 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.120 for a victory for a victory, I don't know that 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:28.920 that's that's interesting. I think it is one of the 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.640 lowest scoring wins in multiple years. I have to go 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.560 and double check that stat in the break, but it's 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.400 not gonna look like it was an offensive explosion. But 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.800 my goodness, it was so efficient down the field, play calling, 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.560 spreading the love. It wasn't even just balanced between the 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.520 offense and excuse me, rushing and passing. It was the 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.000 fact that you had two rushers over seventy yards, you 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:54.360 had seven different players catch multiple passes. Yeah, the spreading 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.760 of the love was there. And then Isaiah, I'm curious 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.720 to hear what you think about what Dak Prescott looked 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.920 like yesterday as well. I think Dak did a great job. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.080 And we said in the post game yesterday, you know, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.920 he was a game manager. I don't care how much 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.600 he gets paid. You know, his job is to put 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.520 the team in the best position to win games. And 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.000 that's what he did yesterday. He didn't make bad decisions, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.960 you know, obviously at one interception, got sacked a few times. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.160 That wasn't his fault, but I thought he did. He 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.520 distributed the ball well, you know the fact that he 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.360 went to seven different receivers. Let you know, he's going 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.400 through his reads. He don't give a dog on who 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.840 gets the ball. Go ahead. I was just gonna say, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.640 you set game manager there. That is a negative term 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.080 to a lot of people out there, But you're not 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.320 meaning that in a negative way, right, No, not at all. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.160 I mean game manager just means that that's what you 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.040 want as a quarterback. So let's go ahead and put 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.960 that out there. You want somebody who's gonna put your 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.640 team in the best position possible. If that's calling a run, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.640 that's calling a run. If that's check into something that 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.880 gives us, you know, five yards instead of you know, 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.960 something that body gave US forty yards, So the heck 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.760 what that's managing the game. Just being smart about your 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.520 decisions that you make and not taking those risks. That 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.760 is a game manager. And that's what Russell Wilson was 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.760 early on his career, and that's why Russell's loved everywhere. Right, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.120 Dak is starting to do the same exact thing. He 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.720 doesn't have to be the fifty eight passes the game 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.960 type of guy because he has help. And I think 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.680 he's realizing that he has help everywhere. You see some 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.360 quarterbacks get locked into one or two receivers. They get 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.040 locked into one or two guys and that's all they 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.120 see and they really can't come off of that, right, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.360 whether they have the running ability of Dak. Sometimes they'll 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.240 check one, sometimes they'll check two, and they guess what 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.120 they're doing, they're taking off, right, That's not what Dak's doing. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.720 Dak is literally going through his progressions and if he 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.880 works his way one, two, three, all the way down 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.720 to four at his running back, that's who gets the 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.360 ball or guess what throw the ball away? He does 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.600 that too, So that's what I mean by game manager. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.680 He's putting you in position. Sometimes second down is a 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.920 great down instead of instead of you sitting on the 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.840 bench and watching the other team go for first that 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.600 the negative cunotation that you're looking at is is bus driver. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:48.040 He didn't say is a bus driver. Nadown connotation is 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:55.120 uppercase GM game manager. This is lowercase. Yeah, I like that, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.920 but honestly, like this is what they wanted. Like Kellen 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.480 Moore was ready for that question last week about balance, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.520 and he talked about how they checked that you mentioned 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.560 it last week. They checked out of twelve runs and 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.120 they had thirty one attempts in this game. They didn't 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.399 check out of those runs because because the looks were 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.720 favorable for you. Kellen Moore was a man of his word, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.040 you know, he said, if you know, if it depending 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.280 on the looks, and if it's what we want, we're 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.440 gonna go to it. And this was a very twenty 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.920 sixteen Dak Prescott stat line. Twenty seven attempts, two hundred 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.639 and thirty seven yards, eighty eight percent completion rate. Like, 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.040 I don't know what else people want. I don't care 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.160 if you threw the ball thirteen times in a game. Yeah, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.399 as long as we were successful on offense. We were 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.000 sixty percent conversion on third down. That's a positive eighty 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.520 eight percent completion passing the ball. That's amazing. I don't 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.320 care if you're throwing a ball, you know in six 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.480 seven times a game, that's amazing. That's a great stat 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.560 It doesn't matter long as you're moving the ball. We 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.240 managed the freaking clock. We were in control of the clock. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.040 We were having six seven minute drives. Are you kidding me? 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:54.920 We talked about during the week how you had to 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.959 control this game because offensively, for the Chargers, they were 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.639 going to try to control the game and control the 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.480 clock right they want. They had the West Coast, they 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.359 were gonna dink and dunk, get the five yards here, 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.480 ten yards there, running the ball with Eckler, they were 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.000 gonna move the ball down the field. So you know, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.119 they were gonna have sustained drives. In order for us 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.480 to have be in a position to win the game, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.560 we needed to be great on third down and we 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.000 needed to be able to move these chains. And I 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.159 think we did that. 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We're about to have 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.439 a collision I think in studio between heck Ma Harrison 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:39.119 and isaiahs Damn back today and starting to escalate a 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:40.879 little bit. We'll see if it gets there all right. 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.320 Defensive side of the football, couple turnovers fors nine straight 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.520 games now for the Cowboys with a turnover that's the 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.240 second longest active streak in the NFL, only behind the 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:55.080 Miami Dolphins. So they continue to take the football away, 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.320 but they did give up some pretty big numbers in 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.560 the passing game throughout the course of this one. Rob, 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.840 I'll let you start this off. What did you think 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.480 about the defense and was it a positive outing for them? 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.639 How do we start this without talking about Micah? Is 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.400 that possible? Can I just go straight to that? Yeah? 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.280 I couldn't believe. I was looking at the stats again 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.520 this morning. I didn't realize he only played thirty nine 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.320 of seventy one snaps. I felt like the way his 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:18.959 impact on the game, I thought he was out there 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.159 every single snap, and I know he wasn't because there 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:23.520 was times where they just kept him off the field. 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.840 And Isaiah said this in the break man when he 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:32.240 wasn't rushing off that left edge and just given Storm 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.000 Norton everything he could handle, Justin Herbert had time, and 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.520 when Justin Herbert had time, he was delivering like that. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.480 That was a dangerous, dangerous game because he is the 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.440 truth that is one of the best young quarterbacks in 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.399 the league, no question, Maybe one of the best quarterbacks 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:51.040 period right now in the league. But Mica was what 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.920 do you say? I mean? I sat there last week 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.320 and talked about not having to Marcus Lawrence, what kind 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:57.920 of impact that was going to have on this defense? 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.119 And I think they missed him some in the one 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.520 game defending setting the edge and Gregory two not being there, 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.640 but his pass rush was incredible. I mean to ask 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.640 a rookie to come in and basically change positions from 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.480 what he did in week one, uh and you know, 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.840 and do what he probably did best at Penn State though, 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:20.080 really really really impressive. If Michael parsons it doesn't play 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.520 defensive end for us this game, we lose straight straight 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.600 playing a simple the reason being, you know, to to 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.119 your point rock justin Herbert was delivering the rock. We 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.159 had all kinds of gaps in our in our zone coverage, 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.960 and they held. They were finding every nook and cranny possible. 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.240 They were just running five six yards, sitting, finding a 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.159 little gap in between linebackers, get the easy paths. First down, right, 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.280 They were just over and over again, Eckler boom, first down. 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.320 And then there is a dude number eleven who just 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.159 happens to go out there and provide a rush off 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.800 the right end right now is to Herbert's open side. 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.080 Luckily for him because he was able to see a 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.240 lot of it. But you know, Parsons was getting upfield 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:58.960 and then he got caught inside a couple of times 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.280 on a little spin back inside rush. Sometimes it worked 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.280 out in our favor, sometimes it didn't. Sometimes they were 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.440 able to escape the pocket and get the ball off, 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.440 and that's on coverage. We gotta figure that out. But 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.280 if he did not make Herbert uncomfortable back there, they 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:13.840 would have picked us apart and they would have won 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.560 that ball game. He is the one of the major 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.600 reasons why our defense was able to hold their ground 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.120 against it against the Church question. Yeah, you're just happy 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:23.879 that you have a guy like that, and it's just 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.480 a dog. He's coming after the quarterback. He's got four 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.199 quarterback hits and the sack that was questionable, but hey, 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.800 we'll take it. Let's talk about that. We will take 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.360 that that sack. But you know what happened was basically, 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.840 instead of calling a grounding call, which would have had 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.360 they were in the red zone, which took them far 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.879 out of position to score, but they awarded Micah with 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.960 the sack, which I think everybody in Cowboys Nation was 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.800 happy about it, but Chargers were not happy about it. 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.159 But you know, I think the linebackers played well and 0:24:55.640 --> 0:25:01.159 like Jalen swipe if you want to come swipe if 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.240 he's holding that swipe back with everything he's got. But 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.080 defensive line wise, man, we've got to get some pressure. 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.000 Internally we had just hadn't got there. Those stunts guys 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.840 are still getting bottled up up front. But Osa Diggis 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.480 or number ninety seven, man, he had a really good 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.960 game as well for the D line group. He's starting 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.560 to find his own. Yes, he is starting to get 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.280 in there and get his feet underneath him. But talking 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.000 about the sack, was it a sack because that was 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.320 probably outside of maybe the past interference call that was 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.520 on Jamn Curse in the first half, that was an 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.679 interception that very well could have been should have been 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.880 an interception that was probably the most controversial call. Each 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:41.119 team had one that benefited them. But did you think 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.920 that was a sack on Justin Herbert in the fourth 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.760 I did not. I didn't either, But as Chris pointed 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.199 out to us in the break, it would have been 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.760 intentional grounding either way either way. So we'll have took 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.160 him back to the twenty five. Oh yeah, that being said, 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.680 Cowboy fans that want to say it's it's it's rigged 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.480 against them every single week. It's not. It's not that 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.119 that was a very beneficial call for them. But you 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:03.960 know what, as well as Mica played, I'm glad he 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.400 got the sack because he, like Isaiah you guys said, 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.479 he was the difference in this game. And that's that's coaching. 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.480 That's coaching for dan Quinn to say, we have to 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.720 do something. Our first round draft pick is really good 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.240 at this let's just change it up. And because he 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.520 only rushed like twelve times in the in the opener, 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:23.879 that's coaching, and that's a that's a great job by 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.560 the young player. But it's a testament to what dan 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.480 Quinn said he was going to do and he's actually 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.640 carrying it out. We talked about these matchups. It's matchups. 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.080 Our team, our defense is very versatile, very versatile. We 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.680 have all we got safety depth, right, we got we 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.480 got range it, we have a range in corners. We 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:41.480 didn't use it seemingly. Wait wait wait wait wait wait 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.040 wait wait wait did you say we have safety which 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.879 is crazy? Is that I mean? I mean, honestly, no, 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.760 no disrespect Donovan Wilson. Did we miss him this game. No, no, 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.920 no disrespect. Can you say it again? We didn't miss 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.600 the president and so yeah, so we have safety depth. Okay, 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.439 so that's the thing. Whenever you have depth at a position, 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.520 when you have one of your main guys go out. 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.159 We had a starting safety out. We had two of 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:08.760 our two defensive ends, our book ends us out. I 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.200 don't feel like we missed them. I don't feel like 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.800 we missed them in the game. Now what we have 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.800 liked to have had them, salutely, but missing them and 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.560 liking to have had them is two different things. Right, 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.680 we had a rush. We would have expect it to 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.640 have a rush with those guys. We had physical play 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.600 and we had playmakers in a safety position. We would 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.280 have liked to have Donaldan Wilson, But guess what are 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.399 other guys that stepped up may plays. That's what it 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.560 means to have depth. You will rather you like to 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.480 have your guys there, but if they're not there, the 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.440 guys behind them step up and make the same type 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.719 of plays. So that's what I'm talking about. And dan 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.160 Quinn said, from week to week, this is what you're 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.720 gonna get whatever you have. I said this before we 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.919 saw they're gonna line up and we do the same thing. 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.080 On offense, we have to do the same thing officers. 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.440 You're seeing it in Kelly Moore's play calls. You're seeing 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.480 it in dan Quinn's ability to put Michael Parsons wherever 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.399 the heck you might be. Guess what Michael person might 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.720 be at dog on safety, he might be at corner. 0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.000 Right David Boston comes back and lines up out there. 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:01.560 We might have put Partson to that corner because he 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.480 was too sixty receiver. He was lighting up to the 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.240 sideline against Fournette and week ones, he kind of so, 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.680 I mean, so, I mean, that's that's what I love 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.920 about this defense. And I knew this about dan Quinn. 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.040 I know I have some history with him, but we 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.360 have the personnel now to go do that from week 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.920 to week. Yeah, that hybrid versatility that we have in 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.240 multiple positions is paying off and being able to scheme 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.320 it up is what dan Quinn is his strength that 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.719 he has. But man, you talk about safety, you talk 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.760 about curse. Man. I just I just think he had 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.360 one hell of a game. And I heard him say 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.520 that about Dono. I wouldn't have said that about Wilson. 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.119 I know that's your Texas and him brother, and I 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:46.920 saw you, I would I missed uh kind of going 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.040 along with curse. I mean, you needed you needed guys 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.480 to step up. You mentioned it, missing your two defensive ends. 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.640 You're you're missing your safety. And then of course we 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.280 talked about the offense already, but you're missing guys on offense. 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.240 This is the first time in two maybe three years 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:07.240 that injuries haven't derailed a team and you didn't feel like, 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.480 oh my gosh, there is a gaping hole in this 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.040 game plan because we were missing this guy here or 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.360 that guy there. This is the first time I felt 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.240 like there was still some cohesiveness and complimentary football played 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.200 in on three phases whenever there were guys missing on 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:27.040 multiple levels. The expectation is different. The expectation of this 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.240 team is different, not only in just the three phases 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.440 of the game, but cohesively as a as a unit, 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.800 as a team. We expect, they expect. We already have 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.600 our expectations. Sure, they expect to win. Last year, they hoped, 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.440 they hope to win last year. Now they expect to win. 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.640 A reason being, it started with the competitiveness in practice, right. 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.320 It started with no one guy being greater than the 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.920 other guy that starts. And that's a culture that we 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.320 talked about. That's accepting your role. Right. Guess when you 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.200 play a key role on this team. But guess what 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:58.880 when I put you a musician to make play, this 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:00.880 is what you do. I'm not gonna ask you to 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.880 do anything outside of yourself, right, Robbie, you rush the passer? 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.600 Guess what? Freaking rush the passer? Right? Right, Michael, guess 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.120 what you normally playing. But I need you to be 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.000 a dog and make this dude uncomfortable. Get to him 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:13.880 every single play. Even if you don't get to him, 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.400 make him get out of the pocket. I don't care. 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.680 Just make him not set his feet. Okay, Coach, I 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.440 got you. You know what I'm saying. Guess what, curse? 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:20.920 Guess what? Donovan is gone? I need you to step 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.280 up and make some dog on big plays. Digs shut 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.160 down Allen Man didn't shut him down. But guess what 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.520 we made some plays? Yeah? Right? And the same for 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.720 like guys like Layton vander Esch, who we talked about 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.640 last game that didn't have a whole bunch of reps. 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.600 He comes back this game and has one hell of 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.760 a game. Sack, big, big sack, you know, I mean, 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.600 it shows up and I love that's a great point 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.000 that you just made, Isaiah, because you see this team competing. 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.760 It not only if there's a guy missing, like you said, 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.680 Michael comes in, but there was a point in the 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:49.480 game where I was just like, boy, Tank would have 0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.920 killed this guy. Tank would have been all over this dude. 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.840 You know that those were those are the production numbers 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.640 that Tank would have definitely exercised the demons on this 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.479 And it was almost like they they had Micah Russian 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:06.240 off the other side against Rashawns later Na immediately, you 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.240 know what, let's let's exploit the match up on the 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.040 other side, and that was Later just just held him 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.000 up like a little kid. That's a good adjustment. But yeah, 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.560 I mean defensively, Kyle, you referenced it like they gave 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.040 up chunks of yardage justin Herbert had a good day. 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:21.720 I think I think you have to look at the 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.920 fact that they faced two top ten quarterbacks, top five, 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.840 top whatever in the first two games. I think that, 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.200 you know, the competition was really tough, but look, they 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.320 affected him and La was five of twelve on third down. 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.560 That was that's good. And some of their conversions were 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.280 like third and ten, third and fifteen, whatever, so they 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.960 made it hard on him. I mean I was I 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.040 wasn't for what they were missing. I thought that was 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.440 a good performance, even though they kind of they dodged 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.920 a couple they're they're late, for sure, they definitely dodged it. 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.480 And Herbert got his phil three hundred and thirteen through 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.880 the air, I mean, only ninety five on the ground, 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.880 which is phenomenal compared to the run defense that you 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.040 saw a year ago with this Cowboys defense. But Trey 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.320 Von digs another interception. He's now had five interceptions in 0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.720 his first thirteen career games or fourteen career games. I 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.960 can't remember which that second number was, but he's the 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:18.200 first player to have five interception or excuse me, an 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.720 interception in the first two weeks of the season since 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.520 nineteen seventy five when Leroy Jordan did it. That's a 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.840 long time ago, say long time. I think they amended 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.000 that in the postgame notes. Did I think they went 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.000 back and saw Roy Williams did it. No. Six, okay, 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.120 but still still a long time fifteen years and you 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:35.920 were asking is he the best corner they've had. You 0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.400 gotta do it like he would have done it to 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.000 you or me if I had said that, well what, 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.440 I don't think I would have done anything outside of 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.680 what he'd be giving you the frat boy vibe. You 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:51.200 know that was If anything, That's not my fault that 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:52.960 the stat was wrong. I'm just come on go with 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.800 But anyways, the um what were you saying about? Well, 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.360 I was, I was going back to your teas. Is 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.000 the best corner they've had in ten years? Is he? 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.600 I don't think. I mean, this is the best start 0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:07.720 I've seen from a corner in two games. I mean 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.200 even you know Keenan Allen got his but two picks 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.000 to have the confidence for a second year guy to 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.720 just say, hey, we're gonna stick you on the best 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.440 receiver and we're gonna travel you no matter what. I mean, 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.040 they haven't done that in ten years. No. Four catches 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.880 one hundred and eight yards, and that one ball that 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.520 Herbert threw to him in between the safety and corner, 0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.800 I just think that's what put him over a hundred yards. 0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.560 It's just an excellent throw yea by Herbert, and I 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.920 think we all came away from the game saying, yeah, 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.920 Herbert is a dude. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, he's a baller. 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.000 What do you think, Isaiah, he's a boss and I 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.560 think he also think not only is he a good player, 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.320 but at his office, ave coordinator Lombardi does a great 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.600 job put him in position to be successful. I mean, 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.680 I mean you expect that from every office of coordinator, 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.280 but every office of coordinator doesn't do that. Their system 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.080 allows for them to be very efficient, very efficient, And 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.720 he doesn't have to make these crazy throws. Now, he's 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:00.560 gonna make one or two a game, but he's not 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.000 forced to do that, you know, ten plus times a game, 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:04.800 just chucking this thing down the field they hit me 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.000 his rosor high percision. What do you think about Treyvon 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.799 Diggs and his his day overall? I think Diggs had 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.319 a good day. I think he had a good day. 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.040 I think he's I mean every game, I feel like 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.080 he's like he's like the He's like like a video game, 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:19.600 very video game character that just keeps learning all the 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.200 different moves, you know what I mean, Like every time, Yeah, 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:30.279 he's exactly processing exactly and keeps learning new techniques. I 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.520 saw that last week. But no, I think he's doing 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.000 a great job. Man. I think he'll continue to get 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.800 better obviously, I mean, is he the best corner in 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.200 the last ten years. I don't know. Man, He's he's 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:40.839 off to a great He's off to a great start though, 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.920 and I think, you know, the confidence that you're going 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.440 to gain, the confidence that the coach is instilling him. 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.000 He has an amazing coach and Harris Um and then 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.880 he also has Dan Quinn calling and plays and trusting him, 0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.080 telling him, Hey, no matter who we play, you're sticking 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.040 their number one. Yeah. Right, So going into this next week, 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.279 I think he's really confident, you know, going into this 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.560 next week, having just face freaking Evans and face Allan, 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.520 I think he's gonna be pretty confident going against Smith, 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.400 you know, coming up this week, Jalen Rager and DeVante Smith, 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.280 whoever ends up being the quote unquote number one receivers. 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.040 I think you're pretty confident going to thank you feel 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.799 pretty good after having to face Allan Sans in weeks 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.200 one and two. It's the lowest scoring w for the 0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.920 Dallas Cowboys since November twenty ninth of twenty eighteen against 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.600 the New Orleans Saints. That game was thirteen to ten. 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.520 This is the lowest scoring win since that point. 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An appointment at your 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.880 local Esselore experts and see what or can do for you. 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:07.800 See more, two more. It's a microphone twirl. That's a 0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.319 new one. That's a new touch. Yeah, I've been doing 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:14.280 that one. Okay, swings the microphone away. Yeah, my bulging 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.640 shoulders might block you from being able to see it. 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:21.359 And I had noticed that. Yeah, it's just a little, 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:26.480 just a little to the earth. Yeah, he's got brown 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.040 get out. I like that. I gotta remember to get 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.359 it back. He's Isaiah stand back, He's off Philip tech 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.000 My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's here for talking cowboys. Glass 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.160 with us here on a victory Monday. Hope everybody had 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.279 fun I mean, that was a fun game to watch. 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.360 Did you eat a dub like Jamison Winston last? I 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.640 should have. I'm not as good about that out there. 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.120 He did not eat a dub. Yes, they lost twenty 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.360 six to seven to the Carolina Panthers. The Cowboys, by 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.840 the way, tide of top the NFC East. How about 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.920 that shaking sound coming up? Semi first place, Dallas Cowboys. 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.759 Co first place, Dallas Cowboys. We'll take it, and we'll 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.759 take it. They've got a huge matchup coming up with 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:12.560 the Philadelphia Eagles coming up this weekend. Whole matchup back 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.239 at eight, got to be loud. Yeah, that's gonna be 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:19.120 all the fans out there turn up three straight home games. 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.000 About that, Yeah, because then the Panthers come to town 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.000 and then sit the Giants after that Week five, Yeah, 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.000 because it's the same week that. You know what I 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.719 want to see, Kyle, I want to see. I want 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.759 to see at and T Stadium rocking like the old 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.320 Texas Stadium. I want to see it rocking like that. 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.640 That was a vibe. That was a vibe. I think 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.160 we've gotten a little bit, you know, you know, since 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.320 we got the new state. Yeah, I want to see Philip, 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.799 even if you're boogie out there, even if you got 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.239 some bread in the back, that's okay. Come and act 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.719 a fool this Sunday, because Monday, all right, Monday night. 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.880 Even more reason, you got work next day. So listen up, 0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:01.200 come turn up. The players need to feel you. They 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:02.920 don't need to just hear you. Needed to feel you. 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.720 There's a difference. I love doc system and a custom 0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.000 system in your car, or two different things. We need 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.000 the custom system custom Let's get it done. No pinkies 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.120 in the air, Yeah, no, that turn up. Let's let's 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.160 do something we haven't done on this show in quite 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:20.360 some time. Yes, let's give out some smelly stickers. How 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.800 about that? Bring it back a tradition from early twenty twenty. 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.719 We kind of went away from it for a little bit, 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.560 but I'm gonna have the smelly stickers for some reason. Yeah, 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:32.200 we that's true. We weren't able to get This is 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.279 basically a segment. It's kind of like helmet stickers, but 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.840 instead we go smelly stickers and we scratch and sniff, 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.120 and we placed it on those who deserve it. So Rob, 0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.000 I'll let you start us off. Who deserves your smelly 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.920 sticker for the win yesterday over the Chargers. Michael Parsons. 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:51.520 Michael Parsons said, that's so yeah, like profident, I'm surprised. 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:55.600 I was surprise he played so at least less, but 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.280 like people on the Twitter telling me, look on the sideline, 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.759 he looked gassed. That's how much she was how much 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.839 effort he was giving in trying to provide that pass 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.280 rush off the edge, you know, like different between sitting 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.080 in the box of the second level and giving an 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.480 effort out the blocks every single time for thirty nine 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.279 place that is draining. Yeah, and he got better as 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:20.320 he came along to rain pounder. Yeah, just the motor, 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.600 the production, the midweek switch and being willing to do 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:28.560 that in a second NFL game. Smelly stickery root beers? 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:33.440 Is it the root beer smell? Yeah, that's a good one. Nostrils. 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.280 All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna give my smelly sticker 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.759 to number seventy Zach Martin. What Yeah, I'm giving it 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.760 to Zach Man. Zach. Just ah, Zach Martin makes everything better. 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.359 That's just that's just what it is. And he has 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:54.120 to get my smelly sticker, Zach. Whole offense just bananas man, 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:59.800 all right, okay, banana banana banana. Um, there's a orange. 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:05.080 Huh his orange. I am going with tern Steele. Tern Steele. 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.879 He brought his his big white drawls, the old school drawl, 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.200 the work drawls. He brought those. He didn't bring the 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.960 box of briefs. Okay. He didn't bring the nice ones, 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.320 the nice ones with the little machine. He brought the 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.600 old condes, the old cotton ones that you're putting these on. 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.759 I'm about to go do the yard. He put them 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:29.200 drawls on and he came to work. Smell Aaron cow bite. 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:38.319 There's this week's cow bite. Make sure you're listening. I'm 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.320 gonna get mine to to Tony Pollard. Since we haven't 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.560 we haven't had a chance to talk about it a 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.080 whole lot. But Tony Pollard thirteen carries one hundred and 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.560 nine yards, and yes, the offensive line paved the way. 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.560 But it was kind of like what Zeke was saying, 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.160 whoever is rolling, whoever has that hot hand, they're gonna 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.640 get the football. And Tony Pollard had the hot hand 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.880 and he was able to to convert on multiple occasions, 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.800 and not only in the run game, but in the 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.520 passing game as well, and he capped off with a 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:10.239 big touchdown too, So my sticker goes to Tony Pollard definitely, Yeah, 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.759 what did it smell like? Oh? I don't know. You 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:19.719 guys took like the only three flavors, imel strawberry. I'll 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.600 give him a watermelono you to pick the work draws. 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.920 I hope that's not as I never want that sticker 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:42.040 that I want. That's Gonads on Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos. Tomorrow, 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.840 we're gonna hear from you, the fans out there, call in. 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.360 I want to hear about your thoughts on the Cowboys 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.919 twenty to seventeen win for Chris Beam in the back, 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.400 Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back and have my Harrison. I'm 0:43:55.440 --> 0:44:00.279 Kyle Yeoman's see you tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. Well. This 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.160 has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.160 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.