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Speaker 1: This is the Chief's official podcast network, taking Vantage on

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Speaker 1: the day. When you get opportunity this game, you make

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Speaker 1: a play her Michael touchdown, Kansas City. The Chiefs all

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Speaker 1: right in the thick of a baby, and hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome once again to defending the Kingdom. We get

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Speaker 1: this much closer to training camp. We know it is

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Speaker 1: going to be at the Chiefs training facility in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: not Saint Joe. We now know at least that much.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, that's about all we know. Mitch

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Speaker 1: Holters with you, the Voice of the Chiefs, along with

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Speaker 1: the man that we call the Shop, the Spider, the

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Speaker 1: Barber Shop, Sean Barber, ten year National Football League veteran.

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Speaker 1: So we get ready for camp. We're gonna jump into

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Speaker 1: the linebackers, but before we do, we do know everybody's

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Speaker 1: gonna have camp at their home facility, and that creates

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of business going on to figure out

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Speaker 1: how this is going to work. Man, it's so strange

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Speaker 1: that that have uh training camp where you can get

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Speaker 1: know from you know the end of July to early

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Speaker 1: Most of the guys gonna be right at home. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna have guys having practice at their own facilities.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a little bit different than UM than

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Speaker 1: most teams are used to. I think there might have

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Speaker 1: been four or five teams that currently did that mean

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Speaker 1: the NFL would always take advantage of getting away UM

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Speaker 1: to create that that camp atmosphere because you needed those battles,

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Speaker 1: you needed that that time for for for bonding, for

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Speaker 1: teammates to bond with one another, and they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to kind of miss out on that. So another another

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Speaker 1: opportunity I think to take advantage in the Chiefs Kingdom

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Speaker 1: because we have so many returning starters, I think we're

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Speaker 1: already starting with some of that that that bonding already

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Speaker 1: have taken place last season. Andy Reid not only been

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Speaker 1: doing this twenty seven years shop so this would be

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Speaker 1: in my twenty seventh year. Hopefully I got a twenty

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Speaker 1: seventh tier. Honestly, the seven best camps, maybe six of

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Speaker 1: the best seven in my tenure, have been Andy Reid camps.

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Speaker 1: No wasted time. He uses that he loves, Saint Joey

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Speaker 1: uses it. But now I'm curious to see what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do in this COVID environment to create what he

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Speaker 1: has done, the magic he has built in the seven

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Speaker 1: years prior, no wasted time. Every team is separate. He

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Speaker 1: talks about every team being different, but he molds that

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Speaker 1: team like the Clay starts to get molded in training

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Speaker 1: camp in those precious weeks. And so I'm just curious

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Speaker 1: to see what Big Red will do in this new

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Speaker 1: environment where the NFL has said you're staying at home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think every team starts off with a blueprint, and

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Speaker 1: I think the two nineteen Chiefs team won a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl as the championship level, that's just the blueprint to

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Speaker 1: start with. I think we're still gonna make some tweaks

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Speaker 1: and some adjustments. It's like when you get that new Ferrari,

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious about what kind of upgrades we make

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Speaker 1: to the two thousand and twenty Chiefs offense and defense. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's jump into this focus on camp battles and that

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Speaker 1: is with the position that you played for ten years

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Speaker 1: in this league right in your wheelhouse. That is the

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Speaker 1: linebacker position for the Kansas City Chiefs. Before we get

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Speaker 1: engagers listens Washington's watches loves it is a dude named

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Speaker 1: Paul Hanson. And I saw him. Actually he COVID and

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Speaker 1: friendly that he said, I listened to your DB's one.

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Speaker 1: He said, I loved it because you kind of redefined

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Speaker 1: camp battles a little bit, because you talked about Gavarius

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Speaker 1: get even better. That he took it a level higher

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Speaker 1: and that's what he has to get done in this camp.

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Speaker 1: This position, to me, is also reflective of that same thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to jump in here in a second, but

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Speaker 1: what about that first, let's redefine that battles. It isn't

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Speaker 1: to become a way better player than you even thought

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Speaker 1: I know that sounds like a very tough decision and

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Speaker 1: what players are are challenged with on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: Do not let yesterday be better than today. Don't let

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Speaker 1: your good prevention from being great. Continue to have a

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Speaker 1: growth mindset and everything you do when it comes to

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Speaker 1: have to do all that stuff in a split second.

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Speaker 1: There is there is no learning curve. No one's waiting

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Speaker 1: for you. This championship train is going to keep rolling

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Speaker 1: from stop to stop to stop, and it's about which

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Speaker 1: already achieved. We've achieved so much over the last three

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Speaker 1: have players that are willing to come into camp challenge

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Speaker 1: detail their work. Those are the kind of conversations you're

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Speaker 1: seguents nicely into where I'm gonna jump into first, and

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Speaker 1: it's a peculiar place, and it's Damien Wilson. Now hear

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Speaker 1: First of all, here's why he's intriguing to me in

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Speaker 1: this conversation. Damien Wilson out of Minnesota was drafted by

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Speaker 1: is called playoff Damien. You could argue Damian Wilson on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side became playoff Damien to me in watching him.

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Speaker 1: one point two Tennessee seven tackles in that game, six unassisted.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four, thirty eight plays, Damian Wilson had

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Speaker 1: third quarter, San Francisco's got the Chiefs on their heels.

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Speaker 1: touchdown later, but that deficit to overcome was twenty to ten,

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Speaker 1: not twenty four to ten. And I want to start

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Speaker 1: this conversation with Damien Wilson because he entered the league

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Speaker 1: the league. He to me is a tivarious ward discussion

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Speaker 1: because his camp battle is you now proved that you

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Speaker 1: next year? Yeah? And d dub is a special guy

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Speaker 1: that your availability is one of your best abilities. You

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Speaker 1: only get so many opportunities. And that's what he does,

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Speaker 1: I think better than any linebacker we have when our rosters.

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Speaker 1: He makes the most of every play, whether it's a

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Speaker 1: always in the mix. He always has a great nose

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Speaker 1: we share a lot of things. You know, we share

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Speaker 1: He's very similar in that in those in those in

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Speaker 1: definition of camp battles is a little bit. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: is guys like Tavaria Sward we talked about last week

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Speaker 1: played at a higher level. Now can they go to

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Speaker 1: even a higher level? Anthony Hitchens is probably most talked about,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is out of here. He gets two sacks in

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Speaker 1: that game and the biggest force fumble of the year

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Speaker 1: arguably when he hacks it out from Flacco, Raglan runs

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Speaker 1: it in and they get a defensive score. Hitch, where's

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Speaker 1: the green dit? So now all of a sudden, that

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Speaker 1: dude's got a lot of responsibility. What about Anthony Hitchins

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Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty man. He's like a man professor man.

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Speaker 1: He understands his football knowledge is way beyond his years,

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Speaker 1: in an aspect that he is playing well beyond his

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Speaker 1: years is the biggest compliment I can give any linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He plays like he's a ten year vet. He plays

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Speaker 1: with so much calm and poise, and he understands the

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Speaker 1: ebbs and flows of the game. You never see him

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Speaker 1: out of control. It's it's a controlled insanity. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's a wild man's mentality. But

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Speaker 1: be the guy that accepts it. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of linebackers are our league that act like they're the nail.

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Speaker 1: They allow the offensive guy to dictate how they're gonna release,

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Speaker 1: and how they're gonna run the routes. But then you

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Speaker 1: have a set of linebackers that they bring it. They

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Speaker 1: bring that pressure on that quarterback just enough to make

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Speaker 1: that running back hesitate because that running back and tighten

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Speaker 1: always responsible for your linebackers. There's always a blitz pick

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Speaker 1: up or a hot pickup where those those running backs

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Speaker 1: have to check right before they leave um and and

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the intimidation factor that a guy like

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Speaker 1: Willie Gay can bring to a defense where the offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator in that running back room, in the opponent's running

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Speaker 1: back room are always going to be like, we can't

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Speaker 1: let this guy have a free shot on our quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If he has a free shot on the quarterback, he

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Speaker 1: might put him out for the year. And so every

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Speaker 1: running back we play has to check Willie Gay before

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Speaker 1: he leaves. He has to check the hit man before

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Speaker 1: he before he goes out on his route. He has

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Speaker 1: know that those two guys aren't coming free to kill

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Speaker 1: our quarterback before they get out in their routes. And

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Speaker 1: usually that hesitation allows the defensive line to get there

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Speaker 1: and it allows your pass coverage, angles and everything to

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Speaker 1: be so much easier. So the intimidation factor, the nastiness

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Speaker 1: that he plays with the amount of ground he can

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Speaker 1: cover with his forty time, and then he has such

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Speaker 1: an understanding of proper angles and fits and how to

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Speaker 1: stay between the ball carrier, I mean, the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the receiver coming out in the backfield. All of those

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Speaker 1: things mold together to be one of the most impactful elements.

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Speaker 1: I think where our defense can really take a big

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Speaker 1: leap in the twenty twenty season. Then I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: on the rest of the guy's share in this room.

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Speaker 1: Manuel Smith, Darius Harris, who are both veterans and the

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Speaker 1: rookies Amari Cobb who played the defensive player of the

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Speaker 1: Year at Marshall as a free agent, and then also

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Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati linebacker Brian Wright. So those guys kind

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Speaker 1: of all lump together the camp. Now here's where we

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Speaker 1: go with a traditional camp battle, because to me, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs kept six linebackers last year. Remember Reggie Ragland's gone,

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Speaker 1: he went to Detroit, and we've mentioned five here. If

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Speaker 1: they keep six, depending on how the numbers flow with

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Speaker 1: this COVID environment, see what the league allows, there could

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Speaker 1: be a spot open for a race of the guys

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Speaker 1: that I mentioned. That is a camp battle. Not only

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Speaker 1: then we'll talk about this too as camp proceeds with

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Speaker 1: you and me and also with BJ and Matt and Nick.

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Speaker 1: Is that you're not only competing against the other linebackers,

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Speaker 1: you're competing against how that roster is going to be formed,

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Speaker 1: how many dls this team is loaded at DL. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into that next week. We talked about the corners.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the safeties in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But there may be a spot here for one of

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Speaker 1: those guys to flash out of nowhere. But they're also

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Speaker 1: competing against Hey, they got a show and particularly Dave

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Speaker 1: Tobe that they can be the kind of players that

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Speaker 1: Pringle was and Nieman was in the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: making those coverage plays. Yeah, and you know the guy

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Speaker 1: I jumped in my mind, a guy like Danny Clark,

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Speaker 1: a guy like the Honey Jones. These are guys that

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Speaker 1: were super verse, though extremely effective on special teams. Not

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Speaker 1: only could play outside linebackers, maybe a middle in sub packages,

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Speaker 1: but also could put their hand in the dirt and

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Speaker 1: bring immediate pressure off the edge. That is exactly what

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Speaker 1: Reggie Ragland was last year. Yeah, he counted as a

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Speaker 1: linebacker as far as the roster spot, but he was

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Speaker 1: all over the place. He was able to wherever we

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Speaker 1: needed him to be for that package for that game

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Speaker 1: to be effective. He was able to go on there

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Speaker 1: and play at a very high level. So when you

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Speaker 1: talk about these guys, they are all around six two

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Speaker 1: sixty three two thirty five to two forty five. Could

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Speaker 1: put on ten pounds if needed to play a rush

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Speaker 1: end type position, could lose a little bit, wait to

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Speaker 1: play sub package. They could fluctuate into so many different

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Speaker 1: categories that I would love to see what these guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna do come training camp, what kind of body

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Speaker 1: of work they come. You know, when it's time to

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Speaker 1: check in and then when it's time to get after

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Speaker 1: that camp, We're gonna see who can kind of separate

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Speaker 1: themselves from the men and the boys, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you that's what's so exciting about that upcoming season. In

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Speaker 1: these preseason games and the camp battles is sometimes you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have guys, five guys fighting for one seat at

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Speaker 1: the table, and we're gonna see which dog can go

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Speaker 1: hunt the hardest and which guy wants it the most,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the guy that actually asks to

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Speaker 1: your roster. But as we close it out in this

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Speaker 1: edition of Offending the Kingdom camp battles to the linebackers,

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Speaker 1: I think we can suffice it to say this. If

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna run it back, are they're going

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Speaker 1: to be the first repeat since the Patriots of the

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Speaker 1: three four season? It might very well be this room.

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Speaker 1: If this group singularly collectively takes a jump from here

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Speaker 1: to here, the way they wait, the way they played

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and especially like the Super Bowl at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, this team will have a

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Speaker 1: shot at running it back because of these linebackers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the linebackers are position that I think that there's anything

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Speaker 1: that can take leaps and bounds is our cornerback play

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Speaker 1: just needs small improvement. We know where our safeties. Our

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Speaker 1: safeties was that that position was one of the best

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Speaker 1: in the league. But our linebacker group is a group

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Speaker 1: of there's some natural born leaders there, and I think

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Speaker 1: that they feel like over and over again they get disrespected,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of like that. I want to see

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Speaker 1: them come to camp with a little edge on their shoulder,

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Speaker 1: a little chip on their shoulder, thinking that, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: doubted us last year, but now we're gonna be the

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Speaker 1: lead dogs. We're gonna lead these this this pack of wolves,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get after your quarterback. So I'm really

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Speaker 1: excited to see what this this crew of linebackers does

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Speaker 1: when we in the training camp and get ready for

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Speaker 1: that twenty twenty seasons. All right, you mentioned up here

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Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna go next week. That's the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: and they are quickly becoming one of the best groups

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League shop. I hope you and

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Speaker 1: your family enjoy the Independence Day holiday weekend, and blessings

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Speaker 1: to you as we continue to move on M and

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Speaker 1: H in the COVID environment. As week also continue to

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Speaker 1: work for equality in this country, uh and and just

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Speaker 1: to make it a better place to live. For everyone.

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Speaker 1: So thanks my friend, and we'll get after the defensive

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Speaker 1: line next week. Let's go. We are Casey man. We

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Speaker 1: always can do it together. The community comes close together.

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Speaker 1: We got to stay safe or stay safe. Either way,

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Speaker 1: we gotta bring the community close and keep it that communication.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep talking about. Let's keep talking about. He's the barbershop,

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Speaker 1: He's the shop, He's the spider Man. I'm at chouldis

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Chiefs. Next week we'll open the

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Speaker 1: barbershop again as we go to the defensive line on

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Speaker 1: defending the Kingdom. Thanks for listening to the Chief's official

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Speaker 1: podcast network to touch down down and the celebration begin

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Speaker 1: to their own head