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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Play held down the Fort

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Speaker 1: no Keg parties. I'm told probably well behaved, everything very good.

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Speaker 1: While I was gone play thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 1: And I was in New York City my dad's seventy

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Speaker 1: eighth birthday. There might have even been play a singing

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Speaker 1: Trump card involved for his birthday, not actual.

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Speaker 2: Trump, but it was pretty fun. Yes, like I've heard

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Speaker 2: it's your birthday. I've heard it's your birthday.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, So we had a good time up in New

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Speaker 1: York City, and you know what, I still love I

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Speaker 1: love New York.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wear one of.

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Speaker 1: The T shirts because I'm not a tourist ever there,

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Speaker 1: even though I don't live there anymore.

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Speaker 2: But I do love NYC.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's they're gonna fight back on this

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Speaker 1: mom Donnie madness. We'll dive into all of that, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was very nice to spend some time with the family.

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Speaker 1: Little baby Speed got baptized.

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Speaker 2: Which is very important, very important.

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Speaker 1: We were the lovely Catholic church there with the family baptized,

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Speaker 1: so I appreciated the ability to do that. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: bring him into the church and Clay, we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of news. The big thing actually all morning I

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Speaker 1: was watching the real time press conference, the live press

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Speaker 1: conference going on with Kerr Starmer, the UK Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, where they were announcing a UK US

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Speaker 1: deal on trade, big trade deal, legitimately huge. And then

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Speaker 1: also the EU has announced a huge trade and I

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Speaker 1: remember the EU was actually the largest economy in the world.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not a country, so we are still the

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Speaker 1: number one country, but if you add all the EU together,

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Speaker 1: it's the largest economy in the world. And so it's

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Speaker 1: meaningful to say the least that these deals went through.

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Speaker 1: And Clay, before we get into the we have to

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Speaker 1: get into the Trump was right, and we said, guys,

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Speaker 1: give it time, give it time that you go back.

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Speaker 2: You listen.

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Speaker 1: The great thing about this radio shows if you ever

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Speaker 1: were curious, when do the market tank, Clay, when we're.

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Speaker 3: April April, it was in the absolute tank. Everybody was saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: the economy's in trouble, recessions coming. Your four to oh

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Speaker 3: one k's are worthless. Trump has no idea what he's doing,

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Speaker 3: and we said, hold your stocks. If you happen to

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Speaker 3: have additional money. Now is the time probably to put

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Speaker 3: more money in buy and hold long term. And as

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Speaker 3: we are speaking to all of you this Monday, another

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Speaker 3: all time high in the s and P five hundred

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Speaker 3: in the Dow. If you just never checked your four

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Speaker 3: to oh one k year starts and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm only going to check it halfway through, you're up

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Speaker 3: big on the year. If you bought in April, you're

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Speaker 3: up nearly thirty percent from where those lows were when

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Speaker 3: all the so called experts were telling you that the

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Speaker 3: world was falling apart.

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Speaker 1: So it is a huge victory laugh moment for Trump

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Speaker 1: because we said at the time, and this was a

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Speaker 1: moment where the so called consensus was very much going

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Speaker 1: against Trump, right the economists, the CNBC watchers, and the

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Speaker 1: CNBC hosts, that that whole crew was, well, we all

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Speaker 1: know the trade deal, that this is going to lead

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Speaker 1: to trade wars and higher prices, and the stock market's

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Speaker 1: going to tank and it can lead to a recession.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, and this is why I said,

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Speaker 1: you can go back and listen, we said, we do

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Speaker 1: not know that actually that Donald Trump has earned the

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Speaker 1: right to have the trust of the American people on

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Speaker 1: the economy and on negotiating trade, I think more than

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Speaker 1: really anything else. Maybe immigration too, but on the economy

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Speaker 1: and trade, he knows more than the people criticizing him.

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Speaker 2: He truly does.

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Speaker 1: He understands these dynamics better than the people out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, the peanut gallery, the cheap seats, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying oh, he's going to ruin everything. We have huge

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Speaker 1: trade deals announced. Here's just a little overview of some

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Speaker 1: of this. Okay, this was you had Trump yesterday in Scotland, Turnberry, apparently.

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Speaker 2: A lovely golf course.

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Speaker 1: Here was Trump in Scotland talking about how look at

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Speaker 1: where the American economy is. Look at all this enthusiasm

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Speaker 1: and play this has cut seven play it every leader.

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Speaker 4: When I went to NATO the other day, every leader said,

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Speaker 4: you have the hottest country in the world. We have

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Speaker 4: the hottest country in the world, and we're taking in

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Speaker 4: hundreds of billions of dollars. We have the highest stock

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Speaker 4: And by the way, one year ago our country was dead.

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Speaker 4: We had a dead country because of an incompetent president

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Speaker 4: and incompetent democrats. All they know how to do is

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Speaker 4: talk and think about conspiracy theories and nonsense. If they'd

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Speaker 4: waste their time talking about America being great again, it

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Speaker 4: would be so much nicer, so much easier play.

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Speaker 1: A big part of this, too is people looking at

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Speaker 1: these negotiations, these trade not now these deals right, negotiat

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Speaker 1: have come to a conclusion it's a great deal for America.

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Speaker 1: They can't get around this that this has improved the

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Speaker 1: economic landscape for the American people. And this is in

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Speaker 1: so many ways the manifestation of an America first trade

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Speaker 3: Finally, what Trump is a master of is leverage. It's

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Speaker 3: the number one thing that he recognizes. If he gets

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Speaker 3: an inch on you, he will turn it into a mile.

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Speaker 3: And his thought and this is one of the things

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Speaker 3: that you can go back and watch Trump talking about

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Speaker 3: this for generations if you so desire, even on Oprah,

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Speaker 3: what he understands is this market is the most valuable

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Speaker 3: market to have access to in the world. And his

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Speaker 3: perspective on that is there should be a cost that

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Speaker 3: we extract from other countries to be able to access

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Speaker 3: the richest market of consumers in the world. Everybody said,

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Speaker 3: this is unbelievable. There's no way this is going to work.

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Speaker 3: We had a balanced budget last month that nobody's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I understand that it can be somewhat of a calendar quirk,

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Speaker 3: and look, we've got to get better and better. But

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Speaker 3: there's almost zero doubt that we are going to have

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Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars in terras. And what Trump

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Speaker 3: has said so far has been true. The American consumer

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Speaker 3: is not fronting those costs. It is being eaten largely

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Speaker 3: by manufacturers and other countries that have cut back prices

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Speaker 3: to try to remain competitive. Now, we still have a

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Speaker 3: deal to do with China, but as we near August,

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Speaker 3: and if you just didn't look at your stocks and

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Speaker 3: now you suddenly decide, hey, it's getting close to August.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll go look at the index funds that I hold.

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Speaker 3: You've got record money, and I think people are feeling

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Speaker 3: that you are not seeing skyrocketing inflation, inflation remains low

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Speaker 3: growth outgrowing cost of goods. If you had to synthesize

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Speaker 3: what makes you feel like you're doing better in general,

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Speaker 3: it is when your income as a worker is growing

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Speaker 3: faster than the cost of the goods that you purchase

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Speaker 3: with your income. And we have a situation where Trump

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Speaker 3: has reversed the downturn of Biden, and your incomes are

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Speaker 3: growing faster than the things that you have to buy now,

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Speaker 3: I think this is important. The prices are never going

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Speaker 3: to come back down, and this is the toxicity of inflation.

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Speaker 3: By and large, we never hit negative inflation. There are

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Speaker 3: all sorts of negative connotations economically that would occur. So

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Speaker 3: the pernicious, awful, dastardly part of inflation is it does

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Speaker 3: not ever go back. You're wanting to buy a hamburger

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Speaker 3: for three dollars instead of five, it's never going to

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Speaker 3: always compare it to putting on weight. If you're continuing

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Speaker 3: mean you're not going to be fat. And so all

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Speaker 3: of those are major issues that unfortunately are going to

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Speaker 3: stay with us from the Biden regime. But Trump, Look,

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Speaker 3: he ran on a economy, border crime, and six months

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Speaker 3: in buck I can't remember a president who has more

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Speaker 3: delivered on the things he said he would deliver on

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Speaker 3: he ran on. Economy, border crime is infinitely better than

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Speaker 3: it was under Biden.

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Speaker 1: And we're not even doing the comparison you could do,

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Speaker 1: which is imagine I Kamala Harris was president, right, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: none of this and you know that would be the

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Speaker 1: thing that most people would go to. If Trump had

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Speaker 1: underperformed a little bit the first six months, ran into

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Speaker 1: some stumbles or whatever, you could always do the well,

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Speaker 1: at least it's not Kammala in this case. It's like

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Speaker 1: comparing the top student in the class to the worst

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Speaker 1: student in the class. Right, I mean, the difference is

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Speaker 1: night and day between the administration that you are getting

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Speaker 1: right now and what could have been and what forty

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Speaker 1: eight percent forty nine percent, No, it was more than that.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine percent of the American people voted for in

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Speaker 1: this last election, which is insane, which is to have

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris in charge of this economy, none of these

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Speaker 1: trade deals would have gotten done Trump. This is just

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Speaker 1: one of these moments where remember we said we learned

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Speaker 1: a lesson from the first term, which was everyone quote

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Speaker 1: unquote everyone said Trump is wrong on China. He's wrong

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing again is Trump will be

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Speaker 1: right on trade negotiations when quote unquote everyone said that

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Speaker 1: he would be wrong. Here he is on the trade

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Speaker 1: deal with the EU. We didn't even talk about this

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Speaker 1: in specifics. Yeah, this is cut eight play it.

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Speaker 4: This started months ago, this negotiation, so we knew pretty

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Speaker 4: much what we were getting into, and we were able

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Speaker 4: to make a deal that's very satisfactory to both sides.

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Speaker 2: So it's.

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Speaker 4: Tremendously it's a very powerful deal. It's a very big deal.

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Speaker 4: It's the biggest of all the deals. It will be

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Speaker 4: the biggest of all the deals. So we're very honored

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Speaker 4: to have done so.

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Speaker 1: And it's a huge deal with the EU, as I said,

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Speaker 1: the largest actual economic zone on the planet because it's

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Speaker 1: all those countries put together. And now clay American producers

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Speaker 1: trade partners like the EU. There's hundreds of billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars of investment that's agreed to from the EU. Here

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of US energy that's going to be bought.

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Speaker 1: Additional energy is going to be bought by the EU. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is it's so good that they can't

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Speaker 1: with a way to tell you it's bad. I think

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Speaker 1: that tells you everything. Yeah, look, I think they're running scared.

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Speaker 1: I mean I talked about this a little bit over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. I think Trump has been proven right on

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Speaker 1: the Epstein stuff, which I know people are still somewhat

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Speaker 1: fired up about. But Democrats, and I think there's audio

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Speaker 1: So we had Trump talking about the big trade deals,

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Speaker 3: from Ohio, shared this video. Over the weekend. Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: asked this question, I zero stories. End wokeness on Twitter

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Speaker 3: posted zero ap news stories about the attack. Zero Fox

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Speaker 3: news stories about the attack. I have seen one Fox

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Speaker 3: News story this morning, so that has changed at least

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Speaker 3: zero PBS news stories about the attack. Zero New York

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Speaker 3: Time news stories about the attack. Zero NPR news stories

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Speaker 3: about the attack. Zero ABC, zero NBC, zero CNN. Basically,

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Speaker 3: it's as if it hasn't happened. And what Jade Vance

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Speaker 3: particularly reference there is what you referenced as well, this

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Speaker 3: woman just getting laid out. And I would point out

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Speaker 3: that this is all on video, so there is a

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Speaker 3: certain but there's a certain cultural decision that's being made

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Speaker 3: when you see someone who is innocent getting beaten up

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Speaker 3: and your first thought is, hey, I'm going to get

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Speaker 3: my phone out and record it. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: many of these people recording are men, but if you're

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Speaker 3: a man and you see a woman get punched, your

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Speaker 3: thoughts should not be, oh, I want to make sure.

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Speaker 2: I get this on video.

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Speaker 1: Well, that happened at the end, right, that happened at

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Speaker 1: the end. I just want to point out that there's

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Speaker 1: a guy who's on the ground, who's on the concrete,

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Speaker 1: who's being stomped by while people are videoing it. While

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Speaker 1: people are video Yeah, but by four or five different

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Speaker 1: people running up stomping him as he's defenseless on the ground.

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Speaker 1: You can kill somebody doing that. And then anybody who

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Speaker 1: says only though you can't doesn't know what the hell

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Speaker 1: they're talking about. You can actually kill somebody by stomping

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Speaker 1: them when they're on the ground on concrete. It is

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Speaker 1: not that hard for them to get a brain hemorrhage

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Speaker 1: and to die, right. It's just a horrific thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Here on how common this has become for and look,

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Speaker 3: I understand if it's like a twelve or thirteen year

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Speaker 3: old somewhat, but for society, for people just to stand

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Speaker 3: around while someone is potentially getting murdered in front of you,

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Speaker 3: and your first Oh, I'm gonna make sure I get

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Speaker 3: this for the GRAM, like I'm gonna make sure I

476
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Speaker 3: get this for TikTok. What is the culture that we

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Speaker 3: have created where somebody's on the ground getting stomped on

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Speaker 3: and a huge percentage of the American public's first thought is, oh,

479
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Speaker 3: let me make sure I get a good video of this,

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Speaker 3: not let me stop the fight from happening, Not let

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Speaker 3: me stop the person on the ground from potentially being murdered.

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Speaker 3: In cold blood right in front of you. But hey,

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Speaker 3: I want to take this video so I can make

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Speaker 3: sure that it goes viral. I just I don't get it,

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Speaker 3: and particularly if you're a man and your first thought

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Speaker 3: as you see a woman getting beaten up by a

487
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Speaker 3: man is let me make sure that I get this

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Speaker 3: on video. I look, sometimes maybe people are thinking, hey,

489
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Speaker 3: this is a crime, let me make sure that I'm

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Speaker 3: getting some video of that crime occurring and being very lenient.

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Speaker 3: Maybe sometimes, but it doesn't based on the sound and

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Speaker 3: the the laughter and everything else, it doesn't seem like

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Speaker 3: people are thinking, hey, I to make sure I preserve

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Speaker 3: some form of evidence of this violent act.

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Speaker 1: The media is, broadly speaking completely Like I said, I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in the story. The first I did a Google search,

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Speaker 1: just a straight up Google search on this, and the

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Speaker 1: first news coverage that came up is the Hindu stand Times.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's weird they covered this story. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of reportage the Hindu stan

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Speaker 1: Times is generally known for, but I wouldn't think it

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Speaker 1: will be the top of my Google search results, but

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Speaker 1: it was. There's some local coverage of this, like local

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Speaker 1: TV news. But you know, if it bleeds, it leads

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Speaker 1: local news. They still generally adhere to that maxim And

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Speaker 1: and then there's the other part of this play, which

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Speaker 1: is anybody and I'm sure we could have some some

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Speaker 1: district attorneys or for former Ada's call in and tell

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Speaker 1: us the same thing. Nobody involved in this is going

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Speaker 1: to get any really serious punishment. I appreciate the jade vance.

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Speaker 1: The Vice president says that he hopes they're punished to the

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Speaker 1: fullest extent of the law.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you they won't be.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that from friends of mine who

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Speaker 1: have worked for the New York District Attorney's office. There

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Speaker 1: is a sense that, you know, violence unless somebody is

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Speaker 1: killed or paralyzed, or there's something really horrific that is

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Speaker 1: the outcome of it. Like that, there's a hesitancy to

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Speaker 1: punish violent acts as severely as they can be punished

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Speaker 1: because there's a disproportionate amount of violence from some communities,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to run.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to deal with those statistics.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to say, well, we already have a

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Speaker 1: quote unquote mass incarceration problem in certain low income communities.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to make that situation even worse by

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Speaker 1: punishing violence more severely. They should punish violence more severely, though,

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Speaker 1: This should be the top of the list of what

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Speaker 1: district attorneys go after and say you can't do this.

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Speaker 3: The mayor of Cincinnati has finally issued a statement eleven

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Speaker 3: minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: This came down.

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Speaker 3: He had prior to now not said anything, so I

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Speaker 3: suspect that jd Vance addressing this viral video likely motivated

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Speaker 3: the mayor to put out a statement again. This came

535
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Speaker 3: from his Twitter account just eleven minutes ago. I'm outraged

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Speaker 3: by the vicious fight that occurred downtown. Let me start

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00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: with this, calling that a fight is not what I

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00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: saw right. That was a melee of a It was

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Speaker 3: a mom assault.

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Speaker 1: It was It was a ten on one beatdown of

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Speaker 1: somebody who was very clearly defenseless after the first shoved

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Speaker 1: to the ground.

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Speaker 3: A fight is like one guy and another guy throwing

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Speaker 3: punches at each other. We all know what fights were

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Speaker 3: if you watch this video. This was not a fight.

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Speaker 3: It was a mob beating the crap out of one person.

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Speaker 3: It's horrifying to watch the mayor continues of Cincinnati. Unacceptable

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Speaker 3: and disgusting behavior, intolerable in any part of our community.

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Speaker 3: That's not who we are as the city. Since the

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Speaker 3: fight occurred, I've been in consistent communication with the Chief.

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Speaker 3: Our police have been working around the clock to investigate

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Speaker 3: and bring perpetrators of violence to justice. Based on the event,

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Speaker 3: instigation and the urgent work of our police, I'm confident

554
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Speaker 3: arrests are forthcoming. For that reason, we're making every effort

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00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: to allow our officers to do their jobs and present

556
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Speaker 3: formal results to the public rather than engaging with early speculation.

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Speaker 3: And then that is the statement. So this statement has

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Speaker 3: just been put out in the last eleven minutes, but

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Speaker 3: this has gone megaviral.

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Speaker 2: It will be we all know. Look, here's the reality.

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Speaker 3: If if this had been a black couple that was

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Speaker 3: beaten by a white mob, it would be the number

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Speaker 3: one story in America. It would be everyone saying, oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness, every it would be leading every newscast. It

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Speaker 3: would be a sign of white supremacy sweeping through our nation.

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Speaker 3: But white couple gets the crap eating out of them

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Speaker 3: by a black bob by the.

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Speaker 1: Numbers, by the way, a Jada, that scenario you described

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Speaker 1: by the numbers would be incredibly rare. But the media happens,

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Speaker 1: would would not treat it as incredibly rare. They would

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Speaker 1: go the opposite to actually and act like, this is

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Speaker 1: the same thing with police violence. You know, if it's

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Speaker 1: against a if it's against the black guy, we're told

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Speaker 1: this happens all the time. It's actually incredibly rare, you know,

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Speaker 1: excessive police violence. The same thing would be here if

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Speaker 1: you had a white mob beating up a black guy,

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Speaker 1: we would be told this is the this is the

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Speaker 1: like the new face of America, this is what's happening

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Speaker 1: all the time. They would exaggerate it in the in

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Speaker 1: the direction of lies, per uh. And so we will

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Speaker 1: see what more comes out of that. Maybe some of

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Speaker 1: you in Cincinnati. We have at times the number one

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Speaker 1: radio show in Cincinnati, in Columbus and in Cleveland. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you all over Ohio listening, but some

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Speaker 1: of you may know more about this or the investigation

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Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati area. You're welcome to call in. And

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Speaker 1: I also just think that there should be I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there are, Clay, I think that there should

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Speaker 1: be laws that specifically target or specifically punish if you

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Speaker 1: are if you are part of a group that's kicking

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Speaker 1: somebody who is on the ground. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: punch somebody in the face, that's one thing. If you

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Speaker 1: break a beer bottle on a table and stab somebody

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Speaker 1: in the neck, it's another. Like we do this with violence.

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Speaker 1: If you are stomping somebody who is on the ground,

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Speaker 1: you should get serious prison time, not I plead down

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Speaker 2: And you know I will.

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Speaker 1: How many of these individuals you think are stomping this

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Speaker 1: A society with honor would punish people for doing this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mob violence, I think again, there is no self

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Speaker 3: people out there have seen two guys get in a fight.

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Speaker 3: Not ideal, obviously, we want less violence in the country.

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Speaker 3: But you could understand a face to face fight, most

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Speaker 3: people can in a lot of different context, much more

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Speaker 3: so than to your point, guys rolling around on the ground,

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Speaker 3: all he knocked down by the mob, and then you

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Speaker 2: Running up and stomping on him. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: don't bring your crying baby to dinner. Don't bring like

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Speaker 1: a screaming baby, to a place where people are trying

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Speaker 1: to relax, and they said, just wait till you have

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Speaker 1: your child. Oh, now I do, and guess what he

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Speaker 1: behaves or if he's fussy, I or Carrie will take

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Speaker 1: him and remove him to a place where he's not

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Speaker 1: particularly in restaurants.

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Speaker 2: I've been he just wait till you had a kid.

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Speaker 1: No, I actually do not let my baby ruin everyone

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Speaker 1: else's dinner, believe it or not. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: these people are who thought that I was going to

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Speaker 1: learn some tough life lesson. Everyone just came over and

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Speaker 1: talked about how cute the baby was and how they

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Speaker 1: didn't even know he was on the plane because he

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Speaker 1: just slept on my lap like the little angel he is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, folks, just facts. You know, people could get mad.

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Speaker 3: At some point. I'm gonna be on the record here.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have a hellish travel experience and you are

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Speaker 3: going to pay penance for all of your past judgments

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Speaker 3: of parents on airplane flights.

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Speaker 1: People are you know, they're they're talking a big game

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Speaker 1: with this so far, I'm now walking the walk and

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Speaker 1: talking to talk and you could keep your kids in line.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying you can keep your kids in line.

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Speaker 3: Everybody peer in New Jersey. All three of my kids,

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Speaker 3: by the way, as infants, threw up on me on airplane.

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Speaker 2: Guys, which was a heck of an experience. Yeah, hey, Peter,

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Speaker 2: what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Listen first, First aside, I still have rush as the

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Speaker 6: contact on this number. Put that to the side. Go

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Speaker 6: into your situation with that mob and everything. You know,

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Speaker 6: the media and the government has caused this problem because

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Speaker 6: if I, as a citizen, jump in, well, guess what

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Speaker 6: the media is gonna be against me. The Government's gonna

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Speaker 6: arrest me and and I'm gonna have to expound all

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Speaker 6: kinds of money and litigation and everything else to protect

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Speaker 6: myself because I tried to help somebody.

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Speaker 3: I understand that reticence. I think if you're a man

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Speaker 3: and you see someone beating up a woman, your natural

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Speaker 3: masculinity should be like, hey, maybe I'm gonna put down

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Speaker 3: my phone and try to stop the woman from getting punched.

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Speaker 1: I would say, in that situation, they'll clay she got

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Speaker 1: sucker punched. Ye, it was one and done, and it

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Speaker 1: was some were.

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Speaker 3: Still recording it like there weren't people rushing to her, aid,

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Speaker 3: I guess I just mean that guy was getting stomped

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Speaker 3: to smithereens and no one did anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,