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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Holleh for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith state is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoo? And now Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome back to the solid verbal. Of

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Speaker 1: course this is Dan's voice, because this is Dan speaking.

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Speaker 1: Tye was attending to much more important things yesterday, so

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Speaker 1: he was unable to watch games. He was spending time

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Speaker 1: with his family. Yesterday was, of course his father in

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Speaker 1: law's funeral, so he was celebrating a great life and

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Speaker 1: a great man. And he really does appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: your support. So there's no easy way to transition, but

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Speaker 1: we're very grateful that are pal. Andy Staples is once

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Speaker 1: again able to join us to talk Week five. Andy,

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Speaker 1: how's life, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: It's good, it's good. I'm I'm old and uh but

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Speaker 2: it didn't feel any different watching football as a forty

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Speaker 1: So good. I was going to really lean into the

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Speaker 1: thirty five. It's a big one. You can run for president.

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Speaker 2: No, I've already passed one election where I could run,

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Speaker 2: and I just forgot. I didn't get enough signatures on

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Speaker 2: the ballot. The ballot so.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, so you were able to watch games yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was yesterday, your actual fortieth.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was yet nine oh three am yesterday, so

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Speaker 2: and you celebrated with vomiting, the true way to turn forty.

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Speaker 2: I went a little too hard on Friday night. Now, now,

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Speaker 2: yesterday was very relaxing. I just watched a lot of

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Speaker 2: football all day. And it's one of those things where

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Speaker 2: because I've worked, I always work on my birthday and

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Speaker 2: usually am at a game. We usually celebrate some other day.

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Speaker 2: The only reason why I didn't do it this time

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Speaker 2: is I knew it was Ohio State Penn State was

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Speaker 2: Games in state college are so hard to get to. Yep.

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Speaker 2: They takes so long. You don't get back to your

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I don't think they'll

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Speaker 2: mind if I just watched that one on TV. And no, honestly,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I I like those weekends where I

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Speaker 2: You know, there's so many games that you like if

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Speaker 2: I was at Penn State Ohio State, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: seen a second of Notre Dame Stanford, which I thought

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Speaker 2: was pretty valuable to watch because I have a very

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Speaker 2: different opinion about Notre Dame now that I had a

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Speaker 2: week ago. That's a big deal. And then I also

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Speaker 2: got to watch some Kentucky South Carolina somehow su ole

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Speaker 2: miss stuff that I just wouldn't have been able to see.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, before we go on, let's do something we

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Speaker 1: do every week to start this recap show and hit

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Speaker 1: you with the reverbs.

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Speaker 3: Books are made from the carcases of dead trees. You

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Speaker 3: had no chance Stanford.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Scott from Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: HI.

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Speaker 5: This is Patrick from Lovely Hayward, California.

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Speaker 3: This is Red from Texas.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 5: This is Trevor and Ishaca.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 2: This is Jack in Indiana watching my Stanford Cardinals getting

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Speaker 2: told a very very unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: Story from an annoying but very good book. My only

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Speaker 4: consolation as a Stanford fan tonight is that the Cardinal

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Speaker 4: will not face another defense as.

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Speaker 6: Good as Notre Dames the rest of this year.

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Speaker 3: Can you drop that big, steaming shimmy, sweaty hounding Jerry Tillery.

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Speaker 4: Is Brian Kelly secretly decent at head coaching.

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Speaker 5: My heart goes out to Hence State fans everywhere. You

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Speaker 5: clearly looked like the better team on the field for

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Speaker 5: a good portion of the night.

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Speaker 3: And I cannot.

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Speaker 2: Believe the call that they made to run that play

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Speaker 4: To the Bucks and I don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 4: The line blew it again. And it's a team that

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Speaker 5: This is a bummer.

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Speaker 4: I've got to say that fourth in five tall is

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Speaker 4: probably the worst play calling that I've seen since Dale

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Speaker 1: Michigan comes back from seventeen down and beats Northwestern.

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Speaker 7: What are the Wolverine? You know, if college football only

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Speaker 7: lasted thirty minutes, Northwestern would be three and one right now.

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Speaker 3: Kelly Brackton Beck you can blame Dado Sweenie, Tever Morris.

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Speaker 7: Getting knocked out great job managing the quarterback situation. That

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Speaker 2: Nice job calling on behalf of my friend Kelly, just

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Speaker 2: wondering if it's possible to on transfer.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, the Hockeyes beat the fighting Cutcliffs.

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Speaker 7: Today is the University of Texas four and one beat

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Speaker 7: Kay State. I don't know how we beat kay Steak

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Speaker 7: because they always beat Texas in Manhattan, Oklahoma, You're next.

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Speaker 7: It was ugly, but hey, you don't go into Bill

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Speaker 6: I need that.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee dramatic drive chart reading.

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Speaker 6: I really thought Tennessee was going to be able to

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Speaker 4: Go dog Florida football, new coach and yet still winning

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Speaker 4: in the same Oh god, it's so boring way.

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Speaker 3: I feel pretty confident that Mississippi State.

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Speaker 6: Is not ten to fourteen ports better than Florida.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so is Auburn? Okay, what does Auburn? Who is Auburn?

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Speaker 6: Sorry, b y U.

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Speaker 2: This version that you did like to murder.

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Speaker 7: All teams names cougars interesting As a Void State fan,

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Speaker 7: it's a lot more fun when we blog punts instead

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Speaker 1: This week, I'm calling to tell you that I will

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Speaker 1: be bathing and since Addie Chile tonight as the bear

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Speaker 1: Cats are five.

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Speaker 5: In oh And, I just want Dan to acknowledge the

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Speaker 5: disrespect that he had for the Brown Bears and acknowledge

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Speaker 5: the beating that they put on the Hoyas away from

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Speaker 6: I just gotta say, as a Notre Dame fan, I'm

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Speaker 1: Damn. I love it, and I understand the emotions. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't criticize anybody for digging deep, needing to talk

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Speaker 1: and love all of that's I suppose let's start with

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Speaker 1: and that's that Ohio State penn State game. And it

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Speaker 1: really marries nicely with you talking about perhaps questionable decisions

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Speaker 1: with a perhaps questionable decision.

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Speaker 2: And your controversial opinion you may okay. So my initial

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: That's the best they could come up with after two timeouts.

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Speaker 2: the right choice. Ohio State defended it perfectly. They had

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Speaker 2: out of there and gains fifteen yards. But they had

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, So if you didn't see the play, I

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Speaker 1: imagine by now you probably have. But Penn State, driving

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Speaker 1: after an uneven game by both teams offensively, both going

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Speaker 1: Penn State moving the ball on that huge fourth and five.

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Speaker 1: our Trace McSorley gives the ball to Miles Sanders in

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Speaker 1: that one this play has worked in the past with

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Speaker 1: what good teams have shown, like what Ohio State showed.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State did a great job looping around to cover

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Speaker 2: Well, and I don't think that was a case of

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Speaker 2: that's Greg Giango going shoot. That was glad I had

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Speaker 2: going to happen. But yeah, they had Chase Young doing

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Speaker 2: blow up that play because honestly, if he's not doing

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Speaker 2: that stunt, if they're just coming straight ahead, that play

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Speaker 2: probably gets blocked and Sanders has a really good chance

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's also a spot in which, if you

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Speaker 1: give it to Trace McSorley, yes, you have the opportunity

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Speaker 2: And you know they had it against Appalachian State and

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Speaker 2: State play, McSorley recognized where the soft part of the

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Speaker 2: with the guy who played high school ball with McSorley,

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Speaker 2: fourth and three. This was a fourth and five. So

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Speaker 2: you know, again, I'm not going to kill the play

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Speaker 2: call on that. I'll if we want to talk about

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Speaker 2: Bobby Petrino throwing the ball up three with ninety seconds left,

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Speaker 2: that's a different story. But I'm not killing this play

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Speaker 2: call in particular because again, if they hadn't had the

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Speaker 2: even more than Chase Young did. Because if McSorley can

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Speaker 2: probably a lot more.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and on all three levels, you know, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: If yeah, if Notre Dame goes even if they're eleven

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Speaker 1: In conclusion Ian book, sometimes the best ability is dependability.

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Speaker 1: Can I put that on a pillow?

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Speaker 1: That's paraphrasing our pal Ben Golliver also at SI saying,

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Speaker 2: That's that's actually my my mantra, that's my professional mantra.

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Speaker 1: It's it's staying on schedule. Let's move to another quarterback

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Speaker 1: And all that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, well, you're killing it because I wanted

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So Dabo and Nick Saban have figured out

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Speaker 1: Yes he did.

439
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Speaker 2: But that's the thing that that Dabo and Nick Saban

440
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: got right that you know, you look at some of

441
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: these other coaches, they haven't quite figured out. They just

442
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: try to get, you know, the four and five stars

443
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: and then they all leave and then you've got nothing. Well,

444
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: Chase Bryce was was very important yesterday. It was because imagine,

445
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: imagine if they'd only had four stars, because all the

446
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: four and five stars have left other than Trevor Lawrence.

447
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: They lost what four in the past six to eight months.

448
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: Now, Kelly Bryant was that three star, but once he

449
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: became the starter for a year, you can kind of

450
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: add a star to him, right, But yeah, you got

451
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: to have that guy who isn't expecting to be the starter.

452
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Speaker 1: You're Ian Book for example.

453
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. And Ian Book was a guy that Notre

454
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: Dame came in on kind of late, and you know,

455
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 2: he just they they're willing to wait it out, and

456
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: they're not afraid of competition, because why would they sign

457
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 2: there if they were. You know, they may be signing

458
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: there for other reasons, or they may have this belief

459
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: in themselves that they are better than people think they are,

460
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: and here's this chance to prove it and Chase Bryce

461
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: on fourth and six yesterday, he proved it. Well, that

462
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: was that was an unbelievable throw because if you think

463
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: about the situation that they were in Syracuse shows that

464
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: they're bringing six on that play. So if you were

465
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: a red shirt freshman playing in your first real action,

466
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: you know he'd gotten in some mop up duty. But

467
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: first real you know, teeth of the game action. Fourth down,

468
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: your team will lose and your national title hopes may

469
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Speaker 2: go down the toilet if you don't make this play

470
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: and looks like they're bringing six and then all of

471
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: a sudden they only bring three and they drop eight.

472
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Typically a young quarterback will throw an interception in that situation,

473
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: he looked off the safety and dropped it right in

474
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 2: the bucket perfectly. That was a veteran play by a

475
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: guy who wasn't supposed to be playing, And that's kind

476
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: as one of those things you want to like. That's

477
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: why we watch like to see stuff like that because

478
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: because that was pretty amazing, and you know, you have

479
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: to you just have to feel good for the kid,

480
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: because you know, here's a guy who was not one

481
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: of those five star guys. Was not I'm gonna be

482
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: the man. He signed with Clemson because he wanted to

483
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: go play for a really good team and he knew

484
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Speaker 2: there was a chance he may never get in.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if, funny how life works, even if

486
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State Penn State doesn't come down to a specific moment,

487
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: you knew watching this game, eventually Chase Brice is going

488
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: to have to make a play with his arm, that

489
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: Syracuse was going to force him to make a big

490
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: throw at a big moment. So there was that that

491
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: feeling leading up to whenever that was going to happen.

492
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: If Clemson has a chance they need to complete a

493
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Speaker 1: significant pass.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now here's my issue with Clemson period. Forget who's

495
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: playing quarterback, the rest of the rosters should be so

496
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: good that they should be dominating most of the teams

497
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: on their schedule, right, and it concerns me that they

498
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: can't seem to always do that like that. As good

499
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: as they've been over the years, they've never evolved into

500
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: the killing machine that Alabama is.

501
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: It is.

502
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Speaker 1: It's something that you would have figured at this point

503
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: with as many top three classes, with it being the

504
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: best school to develop receivers, they've developed pretty good running backs.

505
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: The line has great Dan.

506
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: Great great d Lineman that you'd figure that eventually they'd

507
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: force enough three and outs and that they'd essentially do

508
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: what Ohio State did in the second half last night.

509
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Just give it to t Higgins, just give it to

510
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: Marteves Priyant, just give it to whoever and let them

511
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: make a play. But you get those Furman games, you

512
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: get the Syracuse games. You get they do enough to win,

513
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: but not enough to separate, which it can't be all

514
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: that exciting. But the fan base has a national championship.

515
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: But still it has to be frustrating.

516
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And the thing is, you love the national championship,

517
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: but they are a team that talent wise, they're one

518
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: of the few that can actually compete with Alabama. Yes,

519
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: so you want to see that. You want to see

520
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: them do that. And here's the other thing with Clemson

521
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: that is no fault of their own, but something they

522
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: must deal with. The ACC is not good this year, no,

523
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: and so they may have to go undefeated. You know,

524
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: they may not. They may not be able to afford

525
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: to have that weird random loss that they seem to have,

526
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: and so they just may have to keep you know,

527
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: keep winning these things, and they should be able to

528
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: buzz saw some of these teams, and they're not always

529
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: doing that, like Alabama. It's going to be shocking if

530
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: somebody's within two touchdowns of them. Clemson, I'm not shocked

531
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: if anybody on their schedule plays him in a tight game.

532
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. They have NC State in a couple of weeks

533
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: at home. They go to BC which looks to have

534
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: more life than usual, especially on offense. South Carolina looks

535
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: like the ultimate South Carolina team this year. They are

536
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: aggressively above average if that's and you know, Florida State's

537
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: on the road, and Florida State showed some life yesterday

538
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: in the second half thanks to Louisville. I think they're

539
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: gonna get that, Like thank you Bobby Patrino for that one. Yes,

540
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, short of that NC State game, there's no

541
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: team on this schedule, especially after how Duke looked against

542
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech yesterday, that should be able from a talent

543
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: and coaching combination perspective to hang with Clemson. I don't think,

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: but so. It depends on Trevor Lawrence's health though as well.

545
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: I think so. And look, they can they can work

546
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: this with Chase Brice. Now, they got to be careful.

547
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: I noticed that they were running Chase Bryce plenty yesterday,

548
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: So it may be that it's a certain point they

549
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: have to be Hunter Renfro running the triple option because

550
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: that's their that's their next option right now. But it

551
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: how amazing would it be though, if let's say Lawrence

552
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: isn't back yet, Bryce, you know, gets stinged up for

553
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: a game and t and and and Renfro has to

554
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: come in and win them a game at quarterback. I

555
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: think that would be probably the most fitting thing that

556
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: could happen his senior year.

557
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the ultimate Dabos story to the guy who's

558
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: been there, yeah for ten thousand years. All right, We've

559
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about three games when

560
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: they were like fifty quickly West Virginia Texas Tech got

561
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: super out of hand, and then Texas Tech's defense fully

562
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: shut down West Virginia's offense in the second half. But

563
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't quite enough because starting quarterback Alan Bowman gets hurt.

564
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Jet Duffy is a complete wild card, as you'd expect

565
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: from somebody named Jet Duffy Man.

566
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: I just I want to see Jet Duffy running that offense,

567
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: except they include more like just half of it is

568
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Reid option, yes, and half of it is air raid.

569
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: M hmm. Like that. That's all I want to see,

570
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: the red ring. I want them to run Oklahoma's offense

571
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: is what I want with Jet Duffy.

572
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're very I'm here for that. There are

573
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: very few coaches that could probably shift to something like

574
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: that on the fly. I feel like Cliff Kingsbury probably could.

575
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think so too, So I'm here for that

576
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: if they want to do it.

577
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Yes, West Virginia is aggressive all over the place. The

578
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: only points they score in the second half as Texas

579
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: Tech climbs back into this game, was a pick six

580
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: to sort of seal things. They have an amazing first

581
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: quarter and then are ultimately very ordinary on both sides

582
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: of the ball after that. Is that is that cause

583
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: for concern with the West Virginia team, who has pretty

584
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: high upside because of Will Greer.

585
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it's cause for concern. I still think

586
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: they're learning how to how to win like this. They've

587
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: never really been in this position before, so now they're

588
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: gonna get a month to kind of work the kinks

589
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: out before the November from Hell starts. Yes, and it is.

590
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: It is awful, like their November is brutal. So they

591
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: need to win all these games and win them big

592
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: because just stay healthy, roll and then get into November

593
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: and that's when you kind of figure out what you

594
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: are because you're gonna need to go probably three and

595
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: one in November if you want to play for the

596
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: Big twelve title. So that is a the schedule. It's

597
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: as bad as the end of it is. They we

598
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: now have a chance to whatever issues they've found in

599
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: the first month, should be able to work them out

600
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: these next few weeks.

601
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Speaker 1: The other games between ranked teams were Oregon Cal and

602
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you that there is more positive to

603
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: take away from this Oregon win over a Cal team

604
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: with I think a pretty good defense, but there are

605
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: still some concerns, some sloppiness and play calling concerns on offense.

606
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: In the second half, Oregon wins the turnover battle five

607
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: to one and the offense scores twenty eight and this

608
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: is a game late winning the turnover battle five to one,

609
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of that goes to Cal

610
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: for calling a good game without really a passing quarterback.

611
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: But Oregon in a good position just basically because they

612
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: bounce back and get into the bye week after that

613
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: Stanford loss with more positivity than not.

614
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't think Oregon should be worried about anything. Okay,

615
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: I realize they're frustrated about the way the Stanford game ended,

616
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: and they should be. That's a horrible way to lose

617
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: a game. But they are in really good position because

618
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: they're kind of a year early, and I realize the

619
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: issue now is Herbert gonna stay or go? Because of

620
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: all the guys who look like first round quarterbacks next year,

621
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: he has the most incentive to actually stay another year.

622
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: So it would be nice for them if he would,

623
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: because I think they'll be ready for all of this

624
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: next year. But if this is gonna be the last

625
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: year they get with him, they can still make the

626
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: most of it because if they they're going to open

627
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: date this week, if they go to Washington and win,

628
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, they get Washington Austin. If

629
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: they beat Washington, Washington can beat Stanford. Sure, so you

630
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: can get into that three way tie deal and then

631
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: then it just comes down how you play against everybody else.

632
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: I think they should feel pretty good about that.

633
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Herbert was dropping dimes. The defense from where

634
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: they were a couple of years ago, it's hard to

635
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: be unhappy with much there. Turning cal over like they did.

636
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: The offensive line looks totally new and rebuilt. And you

637
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Washington. That was the other game between ranked teams.

638
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: They just completely destroyed BYU. They're opportunistic with turnovers. Jake

639
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Browning looks efficient and accurate like we expected him to

640
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. And this defense is

641
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: so by and far clear best defense. Essentially. I guess

642
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: West of the SEC that it's not really worth delving

643
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: too far into they're just that excellent they are.

644
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: But I do wonder how they're going to look when

645
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: they play Organ, because I don't think they've seen anything

646
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: as good as Organ. And I'm including Auburn in that bunch. Yes,

647
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: you know, you look at Auburn the way what they've

648
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: been since that Washington game. They got some problems offensively,

649
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure Washington has been tested like the

650
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: way they're going to be tested when they play.

651
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Organ indirectly doesn't reflect super well on Wisconsin. I guess

652
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: last night.

653
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: With b Yo it certainly doesn't.

654
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: BYU was not. I mean, just as soon as they

655
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: had a little momentum, they would turn the ball over.

656
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: They gave Washington short fields. They played like a totally

657
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: overmatched team that they're probably something like a seven and

658
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: five team that just you know, had a had a

659
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: very nice day against Wisconsin. So you can't take that

660
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: away from them. LSU demolishes ole Miss. I don't know

661
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: much about what to take away from this game beyond

662
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Ole Missus defense is still terrible and LSU did what

663
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: we believe a good team should do against this Ole

664
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: miss defense.

665
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Ole Missus defense is the best confidence boost for an

666
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: offense that needs one. Yes, that's when they are medicine

667
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: for an offense that that just needs a little bit

668
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: of confidence. And that's what LSU needs going into this

669
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: meat grinder that they're about to go into because you know,

670
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: they're at Florida, Georgia comes to see them, and then

671
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: although Mississippi State hasn't looked good, that's not the team

672
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: you want to see on the back end of at

673
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Florida and Georgia. No, they needed this and they're gonna

674
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: go play a Florida team in Gainesville that Florida's going

675
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: to be a lot confident after these last two wins,

676
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: uh and and should be. You know, Florida's defense has

677
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: looked really good the last two weeks, and LSU's offense

678
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: is going to be tested and they're gonna have to

679
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to perform because while I don't think

680
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Florida's gonna score a ton of points, they're not gonna

681
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: give up very many either. So Joe Burrow is gonna

682
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: need to be opportunistic and you know, crazy legs Burrow.

683
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: It is almost one hundred yards on the ground. I

684
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: just I think I think they have a pretty good offense.

685
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: They tend to be very conservative. We'll see what their

686
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: offensive line can they can they because I think what

687
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: they'll what will happen against Florida is they'll just kind

688
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: of push on each other and push on each other

689
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: and eventually somebody's gonna break through. They may be very

690
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: similar to that Mississippi State Kentucky game a couple of

691
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: weeks ago, where you know, for a half it was

692
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: just you know, back forth, back forth, push, push, push, push, push,

693
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: and then eventually the dam breaks. And I think the

694
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: dam will break on on LSU will be the one

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: doing the breaking, but it's gonna take a while, and

696
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: they can't make mistakes in the meantime, because, as Florida

697
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: showed against Tennessee, it can capitalize on your own on

698
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: your mistakes.

699
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Yes, or it can keep teams close when you keep

700
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: making your own mistakes, as Florida and Mississippi State sort

701
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: of grooved. Florida does a decent enough job on offense,

702
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: but not scoring. You know, Felipe Franks was fine. He

703
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: hit some receivers with some nice looks in rhythm, but

704
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that's about all the positive you can take away. They

705
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: get the one touchdown on a double pass, Mississippi State

706
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: taking three giant steps back from where they we thought

707
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: they were going to be after that Kansas State win

708
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: and Florida doing really I learned more about frozen Custard

709
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: by the way leading up to this game than I

710
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: ever thought I would. And by the way, dan Mullen's order,

711
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: Ross Solinger, Yes, dan Mullen's order pretty good all things considered,

712
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: with all the options on the table at Bops and Starkfelle,

713
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: pretty good order.

714
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: Can I offer another potentially controversial opinion, I'm ready, Nick

715
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: fitz Your may not be a very good passer.

716
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's I think that's like sec Cannon

717
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: at this point.

718
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: Now to the point where maybe Keton Thompson is the

719
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: better option.

720
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mississippi State's offense looks severely limited. And maybe that's

721
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: more credit to what Dan Mullen was able to extract from.

722
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: Him because he because he knows them. Well, that's true

723
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: what Mullin was able to exp But here's the thing.

724
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: Morehead is good with you know, has been good with

725
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: multiple quarterbacks. I realize nobody knows what he did at

726
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: Ford him, but he did. He was really good with

727
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks at Fordham too. But I'm just surprised because I

728
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: figured he would just because Fitzgerald's running ability obviously his

729
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: is his strong suit. And you're supposed to be so

730
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: afraid of what he's going to do running the ball

731
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: that you leave receivers running wide open, right, And it

732
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: just hasn't happened that way. And I wonder, you know,

733
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: Keton Thompson had the entire spring because Fitzgerald was recovering

734
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: from the injury. You know, perhaps the offense might run

735
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: better with the guy who actually knows it a little

736
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: better because he's had more time in it. I don't know.

737
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: I figured we would see more of what Mississippi State

738
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: looked like last year against LSU. That they were less

739
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: talented than a lot of the teams, a lot of

740
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: the better teams that they were going to face, but

741
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: there were going to be those opportunities for Nick Fitzgerald

742
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: to pop a couple of RBO passes deep.

743
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about that that Mississippi State LSU game,

744
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: which is truly a lot of what we base what

745
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: we think about Missippi State on.

746
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and keeping it close against Alabama.

747
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, LSU in that game, if you or I had

748
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: been there, they would have put us in on the

749
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: d line. Yeah, that's how thin they were at D

750
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: line that game. Arden Key had just come back. He

751
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: was way overweight, out of shape. They they they were

752
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: going to get destroyed in that game. And we're basing

753
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: a lot of what we think about Missippi State on

754
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: that game. And you're right. The game they played against

755
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Alabama was close. That was the one where Alabama. Had

756
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: you or I been at the game, we could have

757
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: played linebacker for Alabama.

758
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, that's what they were working in, Like Dylan

759
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: Moses True freshman.

760
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, So I mean that that's Unfortunately, we may

761
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: have picked the wrong sample size there, because there are

762
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: games like last year's game against Georgia for Mississippi State

763
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: that you saw them against an elite team that was

764
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: at the height of its power and it didn't go

765
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: so well. So maybe we just overestimated what they are.

766
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep underestimating Kentucky though, because.

767
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh Man picking against Kentucky.

768
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: They are the clear number two team in the SEC East.

769
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: The schedule shapes up after beating South Carolina, which I

770
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: would still consider to be a pretty major hurdle in

771
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: the SEC East for a team like Kentucky looking to

772
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: continue making a leap. Kentucky slows down in the second half,

773
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: but that's not you know, scoring is not how Kentucky wins.

774
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: What are Kentucky's losses the rest of the year.

775
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: So they have they have re losable games.

776
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: Georgia, maybe Missouri, right and.

777
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: Well, if text A and M looks like they did yesterday,

778
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: probably not text A and M. But that game's on

779
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: the road. Kyle Field is a tough place.

780
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: To go, So I think worst case scenario, we're talking

781
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: nine to three yes, which is an case scenario. We're

782
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: talking eleven and one. Medium case scenario, we're talking ten

783
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: and two. You know what that means. That means a

784
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: full Peach Bowl. Oh my gosh, Yeah, it means Gary

785
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: Stoken at the Peach Bowl is doing cartwheels right now.

786
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Because that stadium we sold out in solid blue.

787
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I can also see an extension from Mark Stoops that

788
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: is regretted in like four and forty six days.

789
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly, but they're gonna have to because he's

790
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: gonna be He's gonna be one of the hot names.

791
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, no, it really is incredible. Benny Snell, I mean,

792
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: by his standards, doesn't have an enormous game, but Kentucky

793
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: does enough. Defensively, they completely shut down South Carolina and

794
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: especially up front, Josh Allen is an All SEC defensive player.

795
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: That's yeah, just a factor right now. I think Kentucky's

796
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: defense is the one that is not getting the credit

797
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: because you know, we love Benny Snell because he photoshops

798
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: trash talk and right, he's just a joy to watch,

799
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: and we love their offensive line. They have a guy

800
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: named Bunchie. Who doesn't love a guy named Bunchie and

801
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: then Terry Wilson's fun to watch. But their defense, I mean,

802
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: that's what's shut down Florida, that's what shut down Misissippi State,

803
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 2: and that's what shut down South Carolina. They weren't playing

804
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: now South Carolina they did. They scored twenty four points

805
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: in the first half Mississippi State. They needed that defense

806
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: to keep him in them in the game. So I

807
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: just you know, I'm so impressed by how far this

808
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: team has come. And again, you know, we look down

809
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: that schedule, where are the losses? Yeah, and the way

810
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: they're constructed. If there's a team in the East that

811
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: can even challenge Georgia, they're it because they they don't

812
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: mind going toe to toe with you. They don't mind

813
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: playing a very tough game in the trenches that does

814
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: not bother them. So that actually could be a fun game.

815
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, winning without good quarterback play is one of those

816
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: secret sauces where oh, your quarterback has a bad game,

817
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're used to winning without needing that, right,

818
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: there's something special I guess about that. Georgia eventually runs

819
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: away from Tennessee, though, I think they're if we're going

820
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: to complement Tennessee going through a pretty rough stretch right now.

821
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: Upfront against Georgia's run game, I thought there was a

822
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: good amount of energy and buy in and they forced

823
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: Jake from to beat them.

824
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee was not as bad as we saw in

825
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: the Florida game, which you know, of course they weren't

826
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: going to be. You can't be as bad as six turnovers,

827
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: so I think maybe it's not as dire, although them

828
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: getting called for the same illegal formation on a punt

829
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: three times was truly magical, Yes, truly magical, and they

830
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: show they're like the last one, Gary danlis is like

831
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: maybe they got it wrong, and they show the replays

832
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: like nope, nope, they had five guys in the backfield.

833
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: So I do wonder, you know where that's headed. But

834
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that they were not as bad

835
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: as they showed against Florida, and so maybe it's not

836
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: an er to eight season in the SEC upcoming.

837
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a fair question. At least, text

838
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: A and M does not look very good against what

839
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: looks to be probably the worst SEC West team in

840
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Arkansas on a neutral site. The game is probably going

841
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: to be best remembered for Jimbo Fisher grabbing and shoving

842
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: a face mask at the end of the game, which

843
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: seemed excessive.

844
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, that stuff doesn't fly anymore.

845
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: No do that, And a bunch of NFL players are

846
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: tweeting out that, like, come on, what are you doing?

847
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: This doesn't Yeah.

848
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: Well, and here's my thing. You can yell at somebody

849
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 2: all you want. Keep your hands off of them. Yeah,

850
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: because once you put your hands on them, they have

851
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: permission to put their hands on you. And Jimbo Fisher

852
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: is going to do that to the wrong guy and

853
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: find out he's really small.

854
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Yes, it's true, but I guess good for text A

855
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: and M for winning when not looking all that good.

856
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Arkansas does a good job against Kellen Mond. Auburn is

857
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: putting Auburn is four and one with a We know

858
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: that there's a facade of a good team. We have

859
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: no idea what's holding up this four and one? After

860
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: they struggle again on offense against Southern mess.

861
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they were shuffling their offensive line again.

862
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: They had some injuries on the offensive line again. And

863
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: here's the thing. They so they're playing Misissippi State and

864
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: it's two teams that are not what they hope to

865
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: be mm hmm. But the thing is, if Auburn can

866
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: get through that, they're still five and one, correct, you

867
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: know that they're still in better shape than you'd think,

868
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: and all that other stuff can maybe get worked out

869
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: as guys get healthy. But I don't know. I mean, eventually,

870
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: Mississipi State's got a breakthrough too. And this is a

871
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: game where Auburn, you would think, well, uggle to run

872
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: the ball because of Mississippi State's front and Southern missheld

873
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: Auburn tore like two point seven yards of carry yep.

874
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: So logically you'd think Mississippi State will be able to

875
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: do at least that. And if you if that's the case,

876
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: then Jared sittambitter have a great game.

877
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're really starting to feel not having those

878
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: two receivers who I think they were counting on, who

879
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: look like they're going to be redshirting now, even with

880
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,239
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Speaker 1: not much talk about with Alabama. They were up forty

936
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Speaker 1: nine to nothing and they could have won. They could

937
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: have dropped one hundred and fifteen on Louisiana.

938
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: And they can probably drop one hundred and fifteen on

939
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: almost everyone in their schedule. Yeah, it's I mean, that's

940
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: the fun little game of what get what team on

941
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: Alabama schedule will make it a game?

942
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: It probably has to be LSU with that defense, But

943
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't LSU has the manpower on defense to run

944
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: with most of what Alabama will offer. But is that

945
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: for two and a half quarters exactly?

946
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: And the other is I don't I have no confidence

947
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: in LSU's offense right to score enough to keep up.

948
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the two and a half quarters thing, because

949
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: then you force the defense to be on the field

950
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: a ton.

951
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's and that's the difference between this Alabama

952
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: team and other Alabama teams. You know, in the past,

953
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: you weren't having to keep up on the scoreboard if

954
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: you're if you're like an LSU you know the ten

955
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: nothing game a couple of years ago. Hm, you know,

956
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: LSU's defense is playing, playing its hard out and LSU's

957
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: offenses is scoring, but the game still within reach. One

958
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: mistake might turn the thing. You know, this time, Alabama's

959
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: gonna be up to touchdowns and that mistake doesn't mean

960
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: as much.

961
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn a whole lot about this LSU offense

962
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: when that game happens. And the good thing is, I

963
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: guess they both have a buy So LSU will have

964
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: no preparation excuse because they should be ready to go.

965
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: No, and and then they're gonna be pretty banged up

966
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: after this stretch, but they will they will get the buye.

967
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: So all right, let's go to the big ten. As

968
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: we've spent a lot of time on these ranked games,

969
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: Michigan needs every second to crawl and scratch back to

970
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: beat Northwestern on the road, which is both telling with

971
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: the old adage of like how good is your bad,

972
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: because Michigan's offense was not great against Northwestern, but also

973
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: Michigan with this defense should be better than average teams

974
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: by fourteen to twenty two points.

975
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Yes, And I would say that Shape Patterson is probably

976
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: the reason they pull that out yesterday because there were

977
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: some plays he made with his legs that just kept

978
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: kept the chains moving where drives would have just stopped before.

979
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: So that's good. Unfortunately, when they play Penn State and

980
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: when they play Ohio State, and maybe when they play

981
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: Michigan State, those aren't first downs. You know, you saw it,

982
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: Trace McSorley. There was a play where what's the linebacker

983
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: who used to be a safety for Ohio State runs

984
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: him down from behind? Right, Okay, Shape Patterson gets tackled

985
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: that situation too. You know, if you can do that

986
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: to Trace, you can do that Shape Patterson. So they've

987
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to to put teams

988
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: away like that, because if they can't, they're not going

989
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: to be dealing. They're not going to be in the

990
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: game with a Penn State or with an Ohio State.

991
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michigan. Michigan has an eleven and one defense with

992
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: an eight and four offense.

993
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're okay, Karan Higden is not having that

994
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: game against their better opponents. No, And that's been their

995
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: problem is they'll have those games where they run the

996
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: ball against inferior opponents and then everything looks okay, and

997
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: then they get you know, get to a good team

998
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: and they just cannot run the ball and everything else

999
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: breaks down. So I hope, you know, maybe maybe they

1000
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: build on this game though, in terms of blocking and

1001
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: play calling and everything and figure out a way to

1002
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: run against those teams. But that's the part I worry about,

1003
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 2: because when they needed to run, you know, a lot

1004
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: of the running they got was shape Patterson scrambling around.

1005
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: That won't work against Ohio State because they're too fast. So,

1006
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, I worry about Michigan. I was sort of

1007
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: in the mode of they're fine, they just lost to

1008
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: a really good note to name team, it's gonna be okay,

1009
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: and then that game yesterday kind of put me back

1010
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: in the mode of I just don't know if they're

1011
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: offensively on the level of the better teams in the

1012
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: Big Ten.

1013
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with escape rooms?

1014
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: No?

1015
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So an escape room is sort of like a

1016
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: group outing for like corporations and stuff, and you basically

1017
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: are locked in a room with a team of like

1018
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: four or five of your friends or coworkers or something

1019
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: like that, and you have to solve a bunch of

1020
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: puzzles to get out of to escape the room in

1021
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: like an hour. And so it's about teamwork, and it's

1022
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: about creativity, and it's about focusing and when you solve

1023
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: all the puzzles, you get to leave the room. Sometimes

1024
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: it's like you're trying to detonate a bomb. It's just

1025
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: a fun activity that people do. And I feel like

1026
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: if you put this Michigan staff in an escape room

1027
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: to be creative and solve puzzles in an hour, they

1028
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: would just try to throw equipment through the door. Like

1029
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: that is where they're at. Like the problem solving in

1030
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: creativity is so far behind other teams with this talent level.

1031
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: Probably a good example was you saw Ryan Day solve

1032
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: a problem for Ohio State last night, correct, and you, yeah,

1033
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: you didn't really see any any problems get solved for Michigan.

1034
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: They just kept doing the same things and it worked

1035
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: out for them yesterday. I'm not sure it would keep

1036
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: working out down.

1037
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: The road elsewhere. Nebraska loses again. There's not much to

1038
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: take away from this game other than it's still going

1039
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: to take a lot of time. Scott Frost is getting

1040
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: a little more impatient, it seems, and Purdue isn't particularly good.

1041
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: They score forty two on this pretty woeful Nebraska defense.

1042
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the produce moved the ball against everybody.

1043
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, you had to expect that was gonna happen. Yeah,

1044
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know what you do if you're

1045
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: in Nebraska because you look at schedule. Sure, there's a

1046
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: winnable game until Minnesota on October twentieth.

1047
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Minnesota is fine.

1048
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: They're fine, And it's not it's not. It's not a

1049
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: slam dunk win either. It's no, you're gonna have to

1050
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: fight for it and then you're gonna get killed at

1051
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

1052
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: You better have Illinois late, I believe.

1053
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better beat Illinois. But then so, I mean,

1054
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: this could be like a two win season.

1055
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Yes, Scott Frost and Chip Kelly, who obviously were joined

1056
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: at the hip, they might win a combined two to if.

1057
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: I like, if the over unders two and a half

1058
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: combined wins probably, which is pretty crazy. Indiana beats Rutgers,

1059
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: which Indiana for and one you know the goals ball

1060
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: eligibility for Indiana, and they look like they're on on

1061
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: pace to do that. Michigan State, that Michigan State Michigan game,

1062
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what the over under is. I don't

1063
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: know that somebody scoring a point in regulation. Michigan State

1064
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: comfortably is ahead of Central Michigan before the chipwas comeback late.

1065
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Michigan State. The offense is not there. It's just it's

1066
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: a below average offense and a team that's that's wasting

1067
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: a very good side of the ball with this spartan defense.

1068
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you wonder if it'll click and come around

1069
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 2: or if this is just what it is. I'm leaning

1070
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: towards this is just what it is.

1071
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: I think at this point it is what it is.

1072
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: Let's go back to offense, because, as mac Brown calls him,

1073
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Coller Murray has a wonderful.

1074
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: Day against she He's a cheat code.

1075
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: He is unlike when things aren't there, he throws something

1076
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: there and it's it's super fun to watch. It's kind

1077
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: of sad we only get one year of him, but

1078
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: he does make the clear, correct decision to go play baseball,

1079
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: because the correct life decision is always take the baseball money.

1080
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: Fifteen million dollars a year guaranteed to play center field,

1081
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: which is what he'll be making in about five or

1082
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: six years, is the way to go.

1083
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baylor, for all that it's worth. You know, they're improving.

1084
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: The clear formula to beat Oklahoma is sort of what

1085
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: if you don't have the talent is to do something

1086
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: along the lines of what Army tried doing. Baylor throws

1087
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: the ball sixty times, probably not going to work to.

1088
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: Try to outscore Oklahoma's built to beat big twelve teams. Yes,

1089
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 2: so if you play like a big twelve team, you're

1090
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: you're in trouble. Here's the thing. Texas doesn't play like

1091
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: those teams. That's correct, right, But you know, even okay,

1092
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: So over the past five years, when Texas has been

1093
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: the clearly inferior program, Texas has still won two of

1094
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: them and then played close the other three. So this

1095
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 2: game was probably gonna be close whether Texas was good

1096
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: or not. It just turns out Texas might be good.

1097
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know what that what that means necessarily,

1098
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: but I'm excited to watch it because I think I

1099
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: think Texas's offense will look a little bit more capable

1100
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma's defense. And this will be the biggest test

1101
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma's offense so far, because no one's actually stopped

1102
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's offense. Army kept it off the field, but Army's

1103
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: defense didn't stop them when they had the ball.

1104
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: They prevented big plays. I think that's what it is

1105
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: when Olklahoma does have the ball, make them earn it downfield.

1106
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what Texas will do. I

1107
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: mean yea. And the question is can Texas make Kyler

1108
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: Murray make mistakes because we haven't seen him make many

1109
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 2: mistakes yet.

1110
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: Correct. So Texas themselves on offense mistakes against Kansas State.

1111
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: They get shut out in the second half, but they

1112
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: step up and prevent probably a very Texas loss from

1113
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: happening to Kansas State as the Wildcats come back and

1114
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: make it a game late, but Texas still a little

1115
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: bit sloppy in places. Sam Ellinger makes a cup. Sam Ellinger,

1116
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: excuse me, makes a couple of big enough throws, but

1117
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: this was a relatively flat day for Texas, but you know,

1118
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: when you win and your relatively flat ahead of a

1119
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: huge rivalry game, it's not the worst thing.

1120
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: Well that and I think that is the sign of

1121
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: progress is that, yes, this would have absolutely been a

1122
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: loss for Texas before they get to come away with

1123
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: a win. So they are they are making progress. I'm

1124
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: not gonna say Texas is back, and if they beat Oklahoma,

1125
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna say Texas is back, but they

1126
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: are looking like a team that could compete in the

1127
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: Big twelve, which is not something I would have said

1128
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: about any of the Texas teams in the past three

1129
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: or four years.

1130
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: I believe twelve, no ten offensive points because they have

1131
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: a punt return touchdown in a safety. Yes, so ten

1132
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: offensive points against Kansas State. I'm not going to sound

1133
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: the alarm, but gonna need more than ten again, so

1134
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: you's now.

1135
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 2: And I think they're gonna get more than ten against

1136
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: so you.

1137
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I would assume. So I think they will be prepared.

1138
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: Tom Herman has shown himself to be at the very

1139
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: least a good big game coach, and he beat TCU

1140
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: last week. Who Hey, TCU is now on a one

1141
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: game winning streak against Iowa State. They pull this game

1142
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: out late. TCU is probably pretty good, but not where

1143
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: they've been these past three or four years.

1144
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: Right, and you saw Ohio State's offense, like them up,

1145
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: but that Ohio State is going to do that to

1146
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: a lot of people.

1147
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Yep.

1148
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: The Texas thing was interesting to me though, because the

1149
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: way Texas them was not what you've expected from Texas.

1150
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: And no, yesterday tc ugas i Aowa State looked like

1151
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: what a game Gary Patterson would enjoy, you know, right,

1152
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: seventeen thirteen. So maybe the defense is okay, and oh.

1153
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: I think the defense is fine. I just I don't

1154
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that Sean Robinson is confident downfield even

1155
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: with you know, he's got two good running backs, he's

1156
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: got two or three good receivers. This this felt like

1157
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: it would have been a thirty one to fourteen game

1158
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: with Trevon Boykin.

1159
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely would have. It definitely would have.

1160
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: So but Seawn Robinson's the first year starting quarterback.

1161
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see. I mean, you know, TCUs in

1162
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: a bad position because they've already lost to Texas, they

1163
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: still have to play Oklahoma. You know that they just

1164
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: this might not be their year where they're they're competitive

1165
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve.

1166
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's go out West Friday night. Colorado, even

1167
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: though it's close at halftime, runs away from UCLA. Steven

1168
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Montes looks like he's one of the best three or

1169
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks in the conf friends, if not higher. And

1170
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: they have maybe one of the best five or six

1171
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: receivers in the country and Laviska Chanalt's hard to tell.

1172
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: With who Colorado has played thus far. Nebraska and UCLA

1173
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: probably not the best measuring sticks.

1174
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this on the radio last

1175
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: week and we had Mike mcintyren and he said it.

1176
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: He's like, we don't really know what we are yet

1177
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: because we just we have not had that that kind

1178
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: of test yet. And I think the problem is they

1179
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: still haven't. You know, u C l A is not good.

1180
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: UCLA is going to be bad all year, and he's

1181
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 2: not going to tell you very much. But the good

1182
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: news for Colorado is the tests do begin soon. So

1183
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: you get you get a visit from herme this week,

1184
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: and you know that that will test that offense because

1185
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, I think I think Arizona State defensively, they

1186
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: got some dudes I love Renel Wren in the middle

1187
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: of that defense. He can blow up some stuff. It.

1188
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: It makes makes your running game very difficult to operate

1189
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: with him around. And then obviously his defense will have

1190
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: to deal with nik Kill Harry Uh. The Nikhil Harry,

1191
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: Leaviska Chanlt matchup that No, obviously they're not playing on

1192
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: the field at the same time, but that's two of

1193
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: the best receivers in the country going at it.

1194
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: The Pac twelve has right now they've developed between j

1195
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: j Arisaga Whiteside, Leaviisca Chanal, Nikhil Harry, Aaron Fuller at

1196
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: Washington has been a quiet revelation, and Uh and Dylan

1197
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Mitchell at Oregon. They're putting together a nice class of

1198
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: receivers this year.

1199
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they got some guys to throw on the

1200
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: ball too.

1201
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that makes it. That makes a big difference.

1202
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: Because like Montese and Manny Wilkins, we weren't talking about

1203
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: as being great quarterbacks coming into the season, but they

1204
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: get the job done.

1205
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: Yes, they are above average quarterbacks, which is not always

1206
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: common in college football.

1207
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: Let's stay in Gainesville, Florida. Did I mention it?

1208
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: Yes, you did mention that. So UCLA right now, there

1209
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: were no real expectations going into the season, but they

1210
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: sit at ZH to four. Cincinnati is better than we

1211
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: thought they'd be. They've played good two decent teams, so

1212
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: it's not fully say UCLA is blowing it against bad teams.

1213
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: They have the Arizona schools. Arizona is worse than Arizona State.

1214
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: Utah's offense is still not all that good, but they

1215
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: have a really good defense. UCLA. Where's the win is

1216
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: now becoming a question and I.

1217
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: Don't know where it is. Yeah, maybe maybe it's Arizona, but.

1218
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Well you listen, usc will play down to you. That's

1219
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: like they're.

1220
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. But I mean, I can't see

1221
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: them beating Oregon now. I can't see them beating Utah.

1222
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: Cal looks like the type of team now, like Justin

1223
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: Wilcox is like mister maddening consistency.

1224
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1225
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: So even though they don't have the quarterback they want

1226
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: right now for what they'd like to do, they're still

1227
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 2: going to be a consistent, good defensive team.

1228
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't they're super well coached.

1229
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So I don't like their chance against them Eitherbviously,

1230
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't like their chances. He was Washington. Yeah, the

1231
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: Arizona game on the twentieth is probably the most winnable

1232
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: game there because this could be oh man, this could

1233
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: be ugly. I hadn't looked all the way down the

1234
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: schedule at how bad it could be. But fair point

1235
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: by uh by the folks at Espionation after they lost,

1236
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: Morgan Moory already wrote about how Chip's probably gonna have

1237
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: more losses this year than he had in the entirety

1238
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: of his tenure as an Oregon head coach.

1239
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Chip Kelly, I believe if you look back

1240
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL time, he's two and eighteen in his

1241
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: last twenty it's something crazy like that. So I think

1242
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: UCLA will be okay. But as there's nothing that tells

1243
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: me one Ucla is going to become a nine win

1244
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: team with him, I just right now I can't say that,

1245
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: but we'll see.

1246
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: He's got to change the culture there. The thing people

1247
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: forget when he took over at Oregon was Mike Volotti

1248
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: had things going pretty good.

1249
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: Oh it was White Glover.

1250
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: Yes, so this is this a little bit different. This

1251
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: is an overhaul.

1252
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: Yes, Washington State Utah gets very weird. At the end,

1253
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: Washington State comes back, pulls it out with a long touchdown.

1254
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: Utah in position to win this game, but keeps shooting

1255
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: themselves in the foot with penalties and ultimately can't. Would

1256
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: have been a pretty great win for Utah to go

1257
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: to Washington State, but Wazoo goes to four and one,

1258
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew and his mustache are totally good. Yeah,

1259
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they're great, but they're pretty good.

1260
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: No, they are pretty good. They probably should have won

1261
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: at USC And you know, it's this is a team

1262
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: and I think it's probably gonna wind up being this

1263
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: is a team that is formidable in the Pac twelve North.

1264
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: That that, and now that three way tie we talked

1265
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: about earlier. Let's say Oregon beats Washington and Washington beat Stanford.

1266
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: Washington State may be the team that breaks the three

1267
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: way tie, that somebody to the championship game because they

1268
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: beat somebody that they're not supposed to be.

1269
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or I think Oregon goes to Washington State.

1270
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know where the other matchups are, but that's significance.

1271
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: In the styles make fights side of things, m H.

1272
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: Washington seems to be the safest here, like, yeah, I

1273
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: never worry about Washington and the Apple Cup.

1274
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: USC does everything they can to try and get this

1275
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: to Arizona as a win, and ultimately Arizona is just

1276
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: Arizona and can't quite pull it out. Some weird coaching

1277
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: at the end of this game, as Arizona decides not

1278
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: to just kick a field goal and give themselves as

1279
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: much time as possible to tie this game. But USC

1280
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: is I don't know how to describe this USC team

1281
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: other than they're super beat up and not good in

1282
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: the secondary and they are crazy undisciplined and basically seventy

1283
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: three percent of what they should be.

1284
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: I think that's probably pretty accurate. You know, from a

1285
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 2: roster standpoint, they're they're fine, mm hmm, but they don't

1286
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: get enough out of their roster. I think seventy three

1287
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: percent of what they should be is exactly the way

1288
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: to put it, because they just don't. They don't maximize

1289
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: their talent at all, and it shows when they play

1290
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: really well coached teams well by the way they're about

1291
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: to play one.

1292
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.

1293
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: That's that's the part that I because I look at this,

1294
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Speaker 2: I don't know what USC is gonna be I mean,

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Speaker 2: they can win most of the rest of the games

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Speaker 2: on their schedule, but they're gonna drop one or two

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Speaker 2: that they're not supposed to just because they're not disciplined enough.

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Speaker 1: This was after the Texas game, the essentially the most

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Speaker 1: ideal schedule for USC, maybe outside of having to go

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Speaker 1: to Salt Lake City, but that game is not surrounded

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Speaker 1: by tough games they miss I believe they miss Washington

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Speaker 1: and Oregon from the north, and they get Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: at home to finish the year. You know, UCLA is

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Speaker 1: always going to be in La obviously, but they get

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Speaker 1: a pretty good cal team at home. This is it's

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Speaker 1: shaping up to be, I don't know, a nine and

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Speaker 1: three team that looks aggressively seven and.

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Speaker 2: Five right right. Well, and here's the thing. Let's say

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Speaker 2: they mucked their way through the rest of this PAC

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Speaker 2: twelve schedule, reality will slap them in the face when

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame shows up. Yep, that's that's the one thing

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Speaker 2: you can kind of put in the bank at this point,

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Speaker 2: because you know Notre Dame and especially if USC is

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Speaker 2: banged up at that point, which you know their open

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Speaker 2: date is this week, so it's it's a finishing kick

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Speaker 2: from here on and how healthy will they be by

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Speaker 2: the time Notre Dame shows up, because I remember last

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Speaker 2: year when they played Notre Dame, they were completely depleted

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Speaker 2: and got annihilated. So and Notre Dame may be playing

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Speaker 2: for a playoff berth at that point, So yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: be I'll be very interested to watch that Colorado game

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Speaker 2: when they come back off their open date, because Colorado's

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Speaker 2: a pretty well coached team. You know, we'll see where

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Speaker 2: they're at because again we you know, we've talked about

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Speaker 2: we don't really know what they are yet. We'll have

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Speaker 2: probably a little better idea after they play Arizona State,

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: but that could be a that could be a fun one.

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Speaker 1: So outside of Arizona State just destroying Oregon State, you know,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin with I think three hundred plus yards on the ground,

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Speaker 1: which is good, but it's you know, within the context

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Speaker 1: of Oregon State. Gotta gotta look at it like that.

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Speaker 1: But Arizona State looks pretty good. And that's I think

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Speaker 1: a lot more than people expected. With the Herm Edwards higher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I underestimated her quite a bit and I feel

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Speaker 2: bad about that, but it's okay. The guy knows what

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Speaker 2: he's doing. I mean, he's he's made them as good

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: or better than with Todd Graham, and that was the goal.

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Speaker 2: So I think, you know, I'm interested to see what

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Speaker 2: what they do from here, because when he got hired,

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, the one thing I think

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: he'd be really really good at, just naturally is recruiting. Right,

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Speaker 2: So what if they're pretty good now and he's able

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Speaker 2: to bring in some really good players that could be

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Speaker 2: really interesting down the road.

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Speaker 1: Their schedule is about to get dicey. They go to Colorado, Stanford,

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Speaker 1: after a bye week, they go to usc they host Utah,

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Speaker 1: they have that UCLA week off, right, then they got

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Speaker 1: to go then they go to Austin. So we are

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Speaker 1: going to learn a lot more about ASU in the

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Speaker 1: coming four to six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Here here's the thing. Now, they were what seven and

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Speaker 2: five last year I believe, So yeah, if they're seven

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Speaker 2: and five again this year, is that okay? Or was

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: it not worth paying to get rid of Todd Graham?

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Speaker 1: I think it depends who the seven are and who

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Speaker 1: the five are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, I mean anything over that, I think you

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01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: feel like you, oh, yeah, that's a win, Because like

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Speaker 2: I said, I think herm's greatest natural talent we may

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: not even gotten a chance to see yet because that's

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Speaker 2: the recruiting piece of it. So m H. I think

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Speaker 2: they can get better from here real quick.

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Speaker 1: college football content should be? All right, let's go to

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Speaker 1: the ACC Miami thanks to I believe six five or

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Speaker 1: six from North Carolina. I feel bad, but man, North Carolina,

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01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: like I don't have the music cueued up, but like

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Speaker 1: you review their drive chart and it's field goal fumble, touchdown, touchdown, interception, touchdown, punt, interception, fumble, punt,

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Speaker 1: missed field goal, interception, touchdown, downs, fumble. It's North Carolina

1392
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: is not trending in a direction I think they can

1393
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: pull themselves out of. But you know what good for Miami,

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01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: new starting quarterback taking advantage of mistakes and in an

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Speaker 1: ACC with no depth, no middle class, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams swirling around, you know, the below average mark

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Speaker 1: Miami being pretty good might be within the context of

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Speaker 1: the ACC excellent.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that that might get them to

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Speaker 2: the a SEC chain. Yeah, like they should be able

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Speaker 2: to beat Florida State this week, although I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: Florida State had a win the kind of win that

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Speaker 2: helps you gain a lot of confidence yesterday, so maybe

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01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: maybe they see a different Florida State team, but Miami

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: should just be able to run over them, because I'm

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Speaker 2: guessing Florida State still won't be able to block Miami,

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01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: but I assume that. Yeah, yeah, I mean they got

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Speaker 2: I think I think they have the red Bandana game

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Speaker 2: at Boston College. I think Miami has to play that game,

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Speaker 2: so that's going to be a tough one. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: be fired up at BC for that one. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you look down on the schedule that the trip to

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Speaker 2: Lane Stadium in November is probably the Coastal championship game

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I mean, just ignore the rest

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Speaker 1: of the rest of the process to get to that point.

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Speaker 2: But yes, well that's the thing. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: there is much of a rest.

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01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying the rest of it just like the random

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Speaker 1: acc that is going to have to transpire. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if NC State can keep this up. They have a

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Speaker 1: pretty nice win. I would say, we don't fully know

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Speaker 1: what Virginia is, but Virginia has been playing decent football.

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Speaker 1: NC State wins that by a couple touchdowns Wake and

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Speaker 1: Greg Dortch. He's their highlight. They score fifty six against Rice.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right about Florida State and confidence. DeAndre

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,919
Speaker 1: Francois looked like he finally got into a rhythm. Granted,

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Speaker 1: you can get into a rhythm against this Louisville defense.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's the thing. This win, like that game

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been close. Right. As bad as Louisville is,

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 2: that that Florida State needed that to get out of

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 2: it is pretty depressing for Florida State, but they still

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Speaker 2: had the amazing comeback from I think a ninety eight

1434
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Speaker 2: point nine percent win probability for Louisville with ninety seconds

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Speaker 2: to go. So maybe that springboards them into something. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, because there's still talent on Florida State's team.

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Speaker 2: The problem is they're still so depleted on the offensive

1438
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: line that it almost doesn't matter what skill position talent

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: they have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their ceiling is so low because of that line.

1441
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: It just is a reality. Boston College in the Steve

1442
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: Dads Bowl wins by ten eighty points between Boston College

1443
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: and Temple would have seemed very strange to say that

1444
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: three and a half years ago, just like we drew

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: it up. Just like we drew it up, Virginia Tech

1446
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: with backup Brian Willis actually does a very good job

1447
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: against a duke team that has been strong on defense.

1448
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comes back, but it doesn't make a huge

1449
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: difference for Ginia Tech winning by seventeen and maybe just

1450
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: that moment to get refocused.

1451
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was one of those that they could

1452
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: have gone one of two directions after that ODU loss,

1453
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: and they chose to go the positive direction. And I

1454
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: think that's good for them because you know, going into

1455
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: this week, they are probably the last best hope of

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Speaker 2: anybody beating Notre Dame. Yeah, and you know, if they

1457
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: play the way they did last night, they can beat

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Potentially a letdown spot for Notre Dame after an

1460
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: impressive Stanford win. Pitt is not good, and it is

1461
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: strange to say that they're especially not good on defense,

1462
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: and I know that. You know, they've played UCF and

1463
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Speaker 1: Penn State, two of the probably best eleven offenses in

1464
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: the country. But they are the worst right now acc

1465
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: defense and sort of surprising given patn.

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01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 2: Art not easy, Yeah, I know, shouldn't.

1467
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: This is his I want to say, fourth year, he's

1468
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: had time to recruit and build his system. It's not there.

1469
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 2: It's not working. And when you lose to North Carolina,

1470
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: that's a big red flag and then UCF could have

1471
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: named it score. So I don't know what happens to

1472
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Speaker 2: Pitt going forward. Now there's probably one more just wait,

1473
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: they won that game in there, because they seem to

1474
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: have one of those every year, but yep, this is

1475
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: not what they signed up for.

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,520
Speaker 1: More importantly and more relevant, UCF is once again slaughtering

1477
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: teams and they have one of the best I don't know,

1478
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: six or seven quarterbacks in the country and Mackenzie Milton

1479
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: and Memphis looks worse after yesterday, and that's shout out Tulane.

1480
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: Good for the Green Wave and Willie Fritz, but they

1481
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: go to USF. Cincinnati appears to be improved, especially on defense,

1482
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: but when you look at where UCF is right now,

1483
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing obvious loss wise, and you get deeper and

1484
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: deeper into October November playoff rankings start coming out UCF

1485
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 1: National champion last year. It's harder to ignore u CF

1486
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: this year than it was last year.

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: Oh, they'll get ignored.

1488
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: They will eventually be ignored.

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't played anybody. The problem is they weren't

1490
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: gonna play anybody, Like what would what would they win

1491
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: against North Carolina mean not much? So it's it's sort

1492
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 2: of on them for not not scheduling anybody better. But

1493
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: you know, when you look at North Carolina when they

1494
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: scheduled them, probably look pretty good. Pitt probably looked pretty good.

1495
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just and and I think

1496
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: they're now into the into the situation where teams aren't

1497
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: gonna want to play them at all m hm, because

1498
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: you're not going to pay them to come beat you.

1499
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: And also Danny White, their ad doesn't want to do

1500
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: any paycheck games. So it's it's a strange situation that

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01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: you see F find itself in. Uh. I do think

1502
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: there's more depth in the American this year. East Carolina

1503
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: has been playing, that's true better. You know, I still

1504
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: don't think they beat UCF, even though that game is

1505
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: in Greenville. Navy is always a wild card since he

1506
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: is the one that we do it against. The spread

1507
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: picking contest on my radio show, and I've learned so

1508
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: we have we have six games that me and my

1509
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: co host Jason Horwitz picked together, and then each each

1510
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: host is allowed to pick two bonus games. So I've

1511
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: had since he as a bonus game three times, I'm

1512
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: three and zero picking since he and so I will

1513
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: be riding the Bearcats the rest of the year. Yeah,

1514
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: I would say either them or whoever plays Yukon.

1515
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the rule is just take Yukon's opponent.

1516
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 2: The rule is just Well, when I saw like since

1517
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: he was a seventeen and a half point favorite against Yukon,

1518
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 2: and I did the math on Yukon's average margin to

1519
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 2: defeat and it was forty, I was like, Okay, I

1520
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: feel I feel fairly fairly confident in this one.

1521
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: They can they can make do. There's a pretty good

1522
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: just idea of depth right now with the group of

1523
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: five teams. Boise State looks strong against Wyoming. No State

1524
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: looks very strong given that it's a pretty talented Toledo team.

1525
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: Army lays waste to Buffalo, who I think people were

1526
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: pretty high.

1527
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, Buffalo is like a seven and a half point favorite,

1528
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 2: in that game.

1529
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is there's a lot to like about what

1530
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: app State has been looking like. Especially you know that

1531
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: that Penn State game does not reflect poorly on Penn

1532
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: State nearly as much as we probably thought it would

1533
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: having watched app State play. Since there are there are

1534
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: some and then you have UCF and us F and

1535
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: since and the American there's some uh, there's some talent,

1536
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 1: and there's some some intrigue with with the group of

1537
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: five teams in Hawaii. Hawaii is going to be a

1538
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: five Hawaii goes five ots against San Jose State and listen,

1539
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: Hawaii's defense is not good, but they're gonna be a

1540
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: tough out in the Mountain West.

1541
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, So I think it's could be a fun,

1542
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: fun race. Now, I don't know that anybody comes out

1543
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: of any of this thing undefeated, because Boise State has

1544
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: already got a loss. And I think, like I said,

1545
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: I think the Americans deep enough that that UCF or

1546
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 2: us F takes a loss before they play each other,

1547
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: and then they got to play each other obviously, So

1548
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: I do think there's gonna be some some judgment call

1549
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: there for the committee on who gets into that group

1550
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: of you know, new year's six Bowl spot for the

1551
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: Group of five, but I think when it all shakes out,

1552
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: it will be whoever the American champ is.

1553
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably right. With Boise State's demonstrable demonsitibly bad

1554
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: loss against Oklahoma State, who we've probably downgraded a little

1555
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: bit quickly. I mean, that's that's every is. If there's

1556
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 1: any more action that you want to talk about, feel free.

1557
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: But I didn't pick the Patriot League games this year

1558
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: so or this week, so I'm out on that.

1559
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: I believe Colgate shut out Bill and Mary. So Colgate

1560
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: just get Tribe. Yeah, sorry, sorry about that. Get on

1561
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: board with Colgate right now. They're going to make the

1562
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: FCS playoffs, and that's that's fine quickly. Some dudes, I

1563
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: don't have the music, but is it Jacqui Polite Florida.

1564
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 4: Yep.

1565
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: He's all over the place for the Gators, and there

1566
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: when Travis Etn carries everything for Clemson, Kyler Murray makes

1567
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: every play in the world. kJ Hamler, I mean, there's

1568
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in that Ohio State Penn

1569
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: State game who you could call a dude. But the

1570
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: way he pulled away from a very fast Ohio State

1571
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: secondary is not something a lot of people can do.

1572
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: Greg George, we mentioned Chase Winovich had a nice day

1573
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: from Michigan. Durell Taylor for Tennessee very active against the

1574
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: Georgia team.

1575
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: That created a touchdown for George. Yes, shockingly enough.

1576
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: Correct, Riley Neiluh The combination of I mean Miles Boykin

1577
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: is a huge game. But I think Jerry Tillery is

1578
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: the dude from that Notre Dame Stanford game, and then

1579
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: he's worth mentioning once again. Chase Young for Ohio State.

1580
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, fau, That's that's it.

1581
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: That's your show. Andy, Thank you very much. Please drink

1582
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: fluids after destroying your body a couple of days ago.

1583
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I have been hooked in. I have been drinking

1584
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: as much water as humanly possible. I feel like I'm

1585
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: back to normal already. I feel like I'm ready ready

1586
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: to take on the week.

1587
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: Do you have a hangover. I don't even know that

1588
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: you were hungover. Maybe you just puked.

1589
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: I was fine, terribly hungover yesterday.

1590
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time. Of course, every

1591
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: week we are here. Ty should be back on Wednesday

1592
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: to preview all of week six. I don't have the

1593
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: slate in front of us, but the imagine it's pretty good.

1594
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: I can go to sleep at a normal time because

1595
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: Oregon is off and not playing a ten thirty game.

1596
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: I stayed up way too late watching that. Solidverbal at

1597
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: gmail dot com, follow us on Twitter, on Facebook, everything

1598
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: the pick'm pool is happening. Solidverbal dot com. You can

1599
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: find it there. Thank you very much for listening. Andy,

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01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time. See you soon.

1601
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: Peace,