Speaker 1: On Nini. I want to talk about that interview because
Speaker 1: it was really so meaningful. I contacted Nini after a
Speaker 1: while of thinking about it. Before it was that she
Speaker 1: would have been a good guest, like that would be
Speaker 1: a good guest. I had no idea what was going
Speaker 1: on in her mind or inside her head. I had
Speaker 1: no idea that she hadn't worked in four years. I
Speaker 1: did not know that she wasn't getting callbacks from Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 1: Everyone's not always watching. Everyone else's bored. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just watched Nini from Afar. She had
Speaker 1: a lounge, she's posting, Nini always survives. I didn't think
Speaker 1: she's making the same money as on the show because
Speaker 1: it's a different paycheck, and i'd heard about her lawsuit.
Speaker 1: But like, she's just a person that I've always found entertaining.
Speaker 1: I talked to her about doing a show a while ago,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to have her on, but I don't
Speaker 1: like to have someone on, and this is a really
Speaker 1: good reason. And just recently I just got the feeling
Speaker 1: that she should come on. It just felt like it's
Speaker 1: time for her to come on. I just got the
Speaker 1: feeling inside of my body within this reckoning. All of
Speaker 1: it just came to be, and I had the courage
Speaker 1: to really ask her, and I wanted her to come
Speaker 1: on because she commented on one of my posts and
Speaker 1: it was courageous of her to comment, and it was
Speaker 1: correct of me to hug her on that post. And
Speaker 1: it just was an interesting moment between us. And she
Speaker 1: was very nervous, very scared. She hasn't worked. She was
Speaker 1: scared it might not help her. And Rachel was very
Speaker 1: scared too. And if you call Rachel and ask her,
Speaker 1: she's very happy she came on because it gave her
Speaker 1: a new chapter. It was like a cleansing sorbet like
Speaker 1: she was stuck in the middle of the impact zone
Speaker 1: and couldn't go back to shore or get out to
Speaker 1: the big waves, and she needed to do something. And
Speaker 1: I recognized that. And now she's in a different space
Speaker 1: from headspace, and Nini is the same exact thing. She
Speaker 1: told me. She thanked me, her team thanked me. She
Speaker 1: trusted me. She was nervous. I was nervous. I took
Speaker 1: it very seriously. She wanted to make sure that I
Speaker 1: wasn't like sort of hanging her out to dry and
Speaker 1: just asking her a bunch of like fired off questions
Speaker 1: that I was going to explain my experience too, and
Speaker 1: I was going to hold her hand in what we've
Speaker 1: both been through. I definitely did not agree with everything
Speaker 1: she said, nor did she me that wasn't what it
Speaker 1: was about at all. I wasn't coming on to be
Speaker 1: a yes person, just meaning that I wasn't. There was
Speaker 1: no gotcha, which isn't what the show is about anyway,
Speaker 1: which you already know. And afterwards she asked me if
Speaker 1: I would manage her. I've already helped her with a
Speaker 1: couple of opportunities. She really is a workhorse, wants to
Speaker 1: work way harder than I actually want to work. My
Speaker 1: brain is always working and my strategy is always working.
Speaker 1: But physically Nini is a workhorse, and I think it'll
Speaker 1: have been good for her. I think already she said
Speaker 1: she was being seen and heard by different people. She
Speaker 1: was in Vegas, and she was a proached in a
Speaker 1: different way, you know, using your voice and being calm,
Speaker 1: and the way that she handled herself was people saw
Speaker 1: her in a different way. People who never even think
Speaker 1: about her thought about her. So I think it was
Speaker 1: very wise of both of us and we're both really
Speaker 1: happy we did it and more to come on our relationship.
Speaker 1: But again, I did not know Nini at all. I
Speaker 1: thought I did because of what I've seen in the
Speaker 1: press and on the Housewives, and I'll watching What Happens
Speaker 1: Live the ten thousand times she's done that show. But
Speaker 1: that's a character, Nini's. That's clickbait SoundBite Nani, not human woman, mother, daughter,
Speaker 1: person who's lost a husband, person whose son has gotten
Speaker 1: himself into trouble, person who danced to subbortive family. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just not that just wasn't the real
Speaker 1: and whole Nini. And I just my eyes opened up, realizing, Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't know any of these women. So now my eyes,
Speaker 1: my eyes are open and thinking, maybe a lot of
Speaker 1: these women I would like. And I've thought that before
Speaker 1: on my show, Like there are people like Jewels that
Speaker 1: I could apologize to because we were on the battlefield
Speaker 1: and every quick comment of mine could hurt someone else's feelings.
Speaker 1: So I'm just seeing women as human beings instead of
Speaker 1: as characters on a show that I can spar with
Speaker 1: and say the funniest last line that the audience is
Speaker 1: going to laugh at. And again if I say a
Speaker 1: funny line that the audience laughs at, I'm winning, that
Speaker 1: person's losing, and that's how I lasted and that's how
Speaker 1: I succeeded. So I'm seeing things very differently now, And
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating that the last thing that Ninie
Speaker 1: answered about her regrets was about her children, because what
Speaker 1: you don't think about are the children on these shows.
Speaker 1: They are exploited. As Dina Manzo her daughter, I saw
Speaker 1: her on TikTok saying that she said things at thirteen
Speaker 1: that she still has to regret. The people still hold
Speaker 1: against her Toda. Anyone ask Dina's thirteen year old daughter
Speaker 1: if she wanted to have a microphone on her and
Speaker 1: be working for free, or Anini's kids what they wanted
Speaker 1: when they have to do a scene with their parents,
Speaker 1: or any of these kids. You know, people kids don't
Speaker 1: get the choice, and they're exploited and not compensated. So
Speaker 1: the kids are really exploited. The reality reckoning is so
Speaker 1: massive and it's taking on a life way bigger than
Speaker 1: what I even started. It's a credit. It's waves after
Speaker 1: wave after wave, and it's going to be the fucking
Speaker 1: biggest tornado you've ever seen, So Andy, have as many
Speaker 1: housewives as you want on the show to get them
Speaker 1: to say that I'm unhinged or that I've gone off
Speaker 1: the rails. Whatever you want, Honey, I'm right here anytime
Speaker 1: you want. You don't have to use women to shield
Speaker 1: your patriarchal method of trashing me. I'm right here anytime.
Speaker 1: Take you on any day, and Andy Cohen, if you're
Speaker 1: going to take a shot at this bee, you better
Speaker 1: not miss so. In the wake of the Housewives storm,
Speaker 1: I've come to like Nini. I've come to enjoy Jill
Speaker 1: because for someone like Nani to sit on my show
Speaker 1: and say that she was canceled, to have the courage
Speaker 1: to say that she hasn't worked in four years, that
Speaker 1: takes pride that Nini that was on that show would
Speaker 1: never have said that because she would have been made
Speaker 1: fun of for it. It would have been a great
Speaker 1: poll question. I'll watching Rappins live. It would have been
Speaker 1: a great reason for someone else to trash her. But
Speaker 1: what happens on these shows is they beat you down
Speaker 1: to a point where then you go to the bottom,
Speaker 1: and then they want to build you back up because
Speaker 1: otherwise it becomes too dark for the audience, so there's
Speaker 1: a real dance and how all this is produced. And
Speaker 1: I now enjoyed Jill And we're not best friends. We
Speaker 1: speak a lot and we don't speak about the housewise.
Speaker 1: We speak about her dog, we speak about Ali, we
Speaker 1: speak about Gary, we talk about nonsense, we talk about stupidity.
Speaker 1: But it never really gets to that toxic point. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel competitive, it doesn't feel like I'm wondering what
Speaker 1: the subtext of what she's saying on the phone. Because
Speaker 1: you can't hate the player. You have to hate the game.
Speaker 1: It's the game, and us not playing anymore is very scary.