1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: On Nini. I want to talk about that interview because 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: it was really so meaningful. I contacted Nini after a 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: while of thinking about it. Before it was that she 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: would have been a good guest, like that would be 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: a good guest. I had no idea what was going 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: on in her mind or inside her head. I had 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: no idea that she hadn't worked in four years. I 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: did not know that she wasn't getting callbacks from Ryan Murphy. 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Everyone's not always watching. Everyone else's bored. I had no idea. 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I've just watched Nini from Afar. She had 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: a lounge, she's posting, Nini always survives. I didn't think 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: she's making the same money as on the show because 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: it's a different paycheck, and i'd heard about her lawsuit. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: But like, she's just a person that I've always found entertaining. 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I talked to her about doing a show a while ago, 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted to have her on, but I don't 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: like to have someone on, and this is a really 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: good reason. And just recently I just got the feeling 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: that she should come on. It just felt like it's 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: time for her to come on. I just got the 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: feeling inside of my body within this reckoning. All of 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: it just came to be, and I had the courage 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: to really ask her, and I wanted her to come 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: on because she commented on one of my posts and 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: it was courageous of her to comment, and it was 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: correct of me to hug her on that post. And 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: it just was an interesting moment between us. And she 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: was very nervous, very scared. She hasn't worked. She was 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: scared it might not help her. And Rachel was very 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: scared too. And if you call Rachel and ask her, 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: she's very happy she came on because it gave her 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: a new chapter. It was like a cleansing sorbet like 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: she was stuck in the middle of the impact zone 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: and couldn't go back to shore or get out to 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: the big waves, and she needed to do something. And 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: I recognized that. And now she's in a different space 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: from headspace, and Nini is the same exact thing. She 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: told me. She thanked me, her team thanked me. She 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: trusted me. She was nervous. I was nervous. I took 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: it very seriously. She wanted to make sure that I 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: wasn't like sort of hanging her out to dry and 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: just asking her a bunch of like fired off questions 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: that I was going to explain my experience too, and 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I was going to hold her hand in what we've 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: both been through. I definitely did not agree with everything 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: she said, nor did she me that wasn't what it 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: was about at all. I wasn't coming on to be 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: a yes person, just meaning that I wasn't. There was 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: no gotcha, which isn't what the show is about anyway, 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: which you already know. And afterwards she asked me if 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: I would manage her. I've already helped her with a 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: couple of opportunities. She really is a workhorse, wants to 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: work way harder than I actually want to work. My 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: brain is always working and my strategy is always working. 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: But physically Nini is a workhorse, and I think it'll 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: have been good for her. I think already she said 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: she was being seen and heard by different people. She 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: was in Vegas, and she was a proached in a 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: different way, you know, using your voice and being calm, 60 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: and the way that she handled herself was people saw 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: her in a different way. People who never even think 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: about her thought about her. So I think it was 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: very wise of both of us and we're both really 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: happy we did it and more to come on our relationship. 65 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: But again, I did not know Nini at all. I 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: thought I did because of what I've seen in the 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: press and on the Housewives, and I'll watching What Happens 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Live the ten thousand times she's done that show. But 69 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: that's a character, Nini's. That's clickbait SoundBite Nani, not human woman, mother, daughter, 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: person who's lost a husband, person whose son has gotten 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: himself into trouble, person who danced to subbortive family. Like, 72 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's just not that just wasn't the real 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: and whole Nini. And I just my eyes opened up, realizing, Wow, 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know any of these women. So now my eyes, 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: my eyes are open and thinking, maybe a lot of 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: these women I would like. And I've thought that before 77 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: on my show, Like there are people like Jewels that 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: I could apologize to because we were on the battlefield 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: and every quick comment of mine could hurt someone else's feelings. 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: So I'm just seeing women as human beings instead of 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: as characters on a show that I can spar with 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: and say the funniest last line that the audience is 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: going to laugh at. And again if I say a 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: funny line that the audience laughs at, I'm winning, that 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: person's losing, and that's how I lasted and that's how 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: I succeeded. So I'm seeing things very differently now, And 87 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating that the last thing that Ninie 88 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: answered about her regrets was about her children, because what 89 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: you don't think about are the children on these shows. 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: They are exploited. As Dina Manzo her daughter, I saw 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: her on TikTok saying that she said things at thirteen 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: that she still has to regret. The people still hold 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: against her Toda. Anyone ask Dina's thirteen year old daughter 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: if she wanted to have a microphone on her and 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: be working for free, or Anini's kids what they wanted 96 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: when they have to do a scene with their parents, 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: or any of these kids. You know, people kids don't 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: get the choice, and they're exploited and not compensated. So 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: the kids are really exploited. The reality reckoning is so 100 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: massive and it's taking on a life way bigger than 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: what I even started. It's a credit. It's waves after 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: wave after wave, and it's going to be the fucking 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: biggest tornado you've ever seen, So Andy, have as many 104 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: housewives as you want on the show to get them 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: to say that I'm unhinged or that I've gone off 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: the rails. Whatever you want, Honey, I'm right here anytime 107 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: you want. You don't have to use women to shield 108 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: your patriarchal method of trashing me. I'm right here anytime. 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Take you on any day, and Andy Cohen, if you're 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: going to take a shot at this bee, you better 111 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: not miss so. In the wake of the Housewives storm, 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: I've come to like Nini. I've come to enjoy Jill 113 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: because for someone like Nani to sit on my show 114 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: and say that she was canceled, to have the courage 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: to say that she hasn't worked in four years, that 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: takes pride that Nini that was on that show would 117 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: never have said that because she would have been made 118 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: fun of for it. It would have been a great 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: poll question. I'll watching Rappins live. It would have been 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: a great reason for someone else to trash her. But 121 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: what happens on these shows is they beat you down 122 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: to a point where then you go to the bottom, 123 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: and then they want to build you back up because 124 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: otherwise it becomes too dark for the audience, so there's 125 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: a real dance and how all this is produced. And 126 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I now enjoyed Jill And we're not best friends. We 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: speak a lot and we don't speak about the housewise. 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: We speak about her dog, we speak about Ali, we 129 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: speak about Gary, we talk about nonsense, we talk about stupidity. 130 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: But it never really gets to that toxic point. It 131 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: doesn't feel competitive, it doesn't feel like I'm wondering what 132 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: the subtext of what she's saying on the phone. Because 133 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: you can't hate the player. You have to hate the game. 134 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: It's the game, and us not playing anymore is very scary.