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Speaker 1: to Giant safety Logan Ryan, and this Giant support is

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Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. Hey, Logan, it's Mussa, Maggie.

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Speaker 1: How you doing today? Doing great? How do you know

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Speaker 1: we're doing okay? And you know, obviously I want to

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Speaker 1: It was Mamba Mentality, the Kobe Bryant autobiography and Relentless

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Speaker 1: we gotta just play UM less mental errors, UM, execute

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Speaker 1: Did you like Judge without the hat, Logan, or did

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that, but I like the hat

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Speaker 1: you under the radar cut is our surprise coming next?

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