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Speaker 1: of the program. What a newsday this is? Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: basically said, oh, of course we're gonna honor the flag
Speaker 1: as an organization, but he's not gonna do anything to
Speaker 1: stop the players from doing what they're doing. Okay, then
Speaker 1: the people are gonna be fed up and people are
Speaker 1: going to continue to walk. Now it's I guess what
Speaker 1: happened with the Cavaliers last night. They didn't kneel, but
Speaker 1: they locked arms and and basically they're trying to do
Speaker 1: the same thing during the anthem and they want to
Speaker 1: send a message. I did they say what the message was?
Speaker 1: You know, King James nothing. We didn't hear from him anything. Jason,
Speaker 1: did you here inequality? Okay? Um? And you know, well,
Speaker 1: I listen. I'm just saying that if everything in the
Speaker 1: sports world which unified everybody of all backgrounds, all races,
Speaker 1: it was a ashion. It was a distraction. It was fun,
Speaker 1: it was entertainment. Now it's become political. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: a political result and you're gonna get a divided audience
Speaker 1: and some of it. If this just continues, it's they're
Speaker 1: just blowing their whole season in the NFL. Other sports
Speaker 1: that follow I suspect are gonna see the same results
Speaker 1: at the NFL, like seeing lower viewership. They're gonna see
Speaker 1: less revenue, less money. And then at some point I
Speaker 1: think it'll backfire and then they'll say, well, maybe we
Speaker 1: should stand and respect those that fault blood and died
Speaker 1: under the under the flag. All right, so we've got that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that today. There is So there's
Speaker 1: a congresswoman named fred Riico Wilson. She wears a cowboy
Speaker 1: hat and so you can recognize her, and she has
Speaker 1: been one of the most outspoken vitriolic critics of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So if you believe what happened, um and believe her story,
Speaker 1: and I guess friends of hers because it's actually a
Speaker 1: sad story because anyway, you have the mother of an
Speaker 1: army sergeant was killed in Niger earlier this month. Anyway,
Speaker 1: and on Wednesday, Democratic Representative Fredrika Wilson gave an account
Speaker 1: of what President Trump said on the phone following her
Speaker 1: son's death. I don't know what was said on the
Speaker 1: phone call. But what they're saying is is that, well,
Speaker 1: he knew what he signed up for. It made it
Speaker 1: seem as cold and callous. Maybe those words were used.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was inarticulate what the President said. Maybe if
Speaker 1: none of us know. President says it was it was
Speaker 1: a call to comfort the mother. And now you have
Speaker 1: a congresswoman out there trying to say that it was
Speaker 1: something other than that, and and it was insensitive, and
Speaker 1: he was trying to joke, and he knew what he
Speaker 1: signed up for. And apparently then the friend of fred
Speaker 1: we the congresswoman Frederick Wilson. Now they're saying what they're
Speaker 1: saying and that he you know, well he knew what
Speaker 1: he signed up for. Now, there's a couple of things here.
Speaker 1: I I don't doubt anybody in a moment can be inarticulate.
Speaker 1: That's possible. I don't know what happened in the phone called.
Speaker 1: The President denies it. President says he has proof. Here's
Speaker 1: what I do know. You would have to believe that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wanted to be mean to a woman who
Speaker 1: lost her son, and he purposely picked up the phone
Speaker 1: and tried to insult her and aggravate her and upset
Speaker 1: her and make her feel bad. Now, there's so many
Speaker 1: ways you can interpret. I mean, this is what Now, though,
Speaker 1: if you're on the crazy left, you're gonna believe Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is evil. He has nothing Donald Trump can do
Speaker 1: in his life that is right in the minds of
Speaker 1: Frederica Wilson. And I've got all the sound to prove it.
Speaker 1: So I'm suspect based on her hatred of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the mother. The mother's distraught. Nobody
Speaker 1: should be even asking the mother questions. But the media
Speaker 1: is is just wanting to politicize this and turn this
Speaker 1: into the biggest thing in the history of the country. UM,
Speaker 1: I can give you some details. For example, General Kelly,
Speaker 1: and I've had an occasion where I did speak once
Speaker 1: to General Kelly, and I said to him, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry what happened to your son. And I read the
Speaker 1: story that three days after his son died, General Kelly,
Speaker 1: of course the White House Chief of Staff. He said
Speaker 1: he was given a speech. I just asked that you
Speaker 1: not mentioned my son, because I don't want to single
Speaker 1: him out to be any different than the fifty other
Speaker 1: people that have fought and died in the battle in
Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan, which is a stunning story. Now it
Speaker 1: has been confirmed that President Obama never made a condolence
Speaker 1: called to General Kelly, who by the way, was working
Speaker 1: for Obama as a relationship is a general after his
Speaker 1: son was killed in Afghanistan seven years ago. And anyways,
Speaker 1: and you know, Trump said, as far as other presidents,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You can ask General Kelly, did he
Speaker 1: get a call from Obama. I don't know what Obama's
Speaker 1: policy was. But this is what you're gonna have to believe.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to believe that Donald Trump purposely called
Speaker 1: a woman in distress and took time out of his
Speaker 1: day as president and purposely wanted to insult her. Or
Speaker 1: you can take it. Now, let's just assume that the
Speaker 1: words are correct. These guys know what they sign up for.
Speaker 1: It could also be interpreted these incredible brave men know
Speaker 1: that there is such danger when they sign up to
Speaker 1: serve their country. And I would gather and I would
Speaker 1: guess pretty much everything I have that Donald Trump did
Speaker 1: not want to insult the mother who lost her son
Speaker 1: and take time out of his day just to do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was inarticulate. I don't know. He's a pretty
Speaker 1: articulate guy. Maybe it was just taken the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just miscommunication. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: doubt the president of the United States of America of
Speaker 1: any party, is gonna ever call a grieving mother to
Speaker 1: put salt in a wound. And that's how the media
Speaker 1: in this country is spinning it. And I just don't
Speaker 1: believe it. I don't believe what you're hearing. And I
Speaker 1: think the media lies to us all the time. And
Speaker 1: I suspect if the President said anything like that, If
Speaker 1: the President in fact said he knew what he signed
Speaker 1: up for, I think he was probably referring to I'm
Speaker 1: amazed at the quality of men and women in this
Speaker 1: country that no, they're risking their lives for their country
Speaker 1: and their fellow country men, and they do it anyway.
Speaker 1: There's a way to look at that and say, you
Speaker 1: know what you're saying, that they are the best of
Speaker 1: the best, and that they know the danger that they
Speaker 1: will be facing, and they do it anyway, which is
Speaker 1: the truth. So now let's go to Frederica Wilson. And
Speaker 1: this is why I think this is a a a
Speaker 1: cheap shot at the president. This is my gut, and
Speaker 1: I refuse to talk about the parents except to say this,
Speaker 1: My thoughts and my prayers are with his mother and father.
Speaker 1: My thoughts and prayers are with them. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything worse in life than losing a child. As
Speaker 1: a parent, they are suffering today. I don't think the
Speaker 1: news media ought to be calling them. I don't think
Speaker 1: they ought to be doing interviews. They can do whatever
Speaker 1: they want, that's up to them. But I think they
Speaker 1: ought to be left alone. And I think they're suffering enough.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's sad. And if the President didn't say
Speaker 1: it the right way, I'm sure he probably would want
Speaker 1: to do it, you know, want to do over. There
Speaker 1: are times, I look, there are days words can flow
Speaker 1: from me, and then days I'm on the air and
Speaker 1: I'm it just doesn't come out the way you wanted
Speaker 1: to come out. And that's just the way it is
Speaker 1: in life, And especially if you're talking every single day
Speaker 1: to so many different people. I'm sure that the president
Speaker 1: knew who we was calling. He knew that this was
Speaker 1: a grieving mother. He knew that she had lost her son.
Speaker 1: So you'd have to believe he's so mean that he
Speaker 1: did this to be the meanest human being on earth,
Speaker 1: or that he could have been in articulate, or he
Speaker 1: was really calling with the best of intentions. And I
Speaker 1: believe it's probably I believe it's the latter. That's what
Speaker 1: I believe. And yet we've got all right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Frederica Wilson. I have proof Trump told the widow
Speaker 1: of the fallen soldier he knew what he signed up for.
Speaker 1: I know this is the first time that you're hearing
Speaker 1: the president's tweet read to you. So when he says
Speaker 1: that you've totally fabricated what he said to the wife
Speaker 1: of this soldier and he has proof, what's your response, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of proof he could be
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm not the only person that was in
Speaker 1: the car. And uh, I have proof to this man
Speaker 1: is a sick man. Uh, he's cohearted, and he feels
Speaker 1: no pity or sympathy for anyone. This is a grieving widow,
Speaker 1: a grieving widow who is six months pregnant. This is
Speaker 1: a young woman She's only twenty four years old. She
Speaker 1: weighs maybe a hundred and ten pounds, and she has
Speaker 1: two other kids, two years old and six years old.
Speaker 1: And when she actually hung up the phone, she looked
Speaker 1: at me and said, he didn't even know his name.
Speaker 1: So now that's the worst part. So Consina, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that. What did you hear tell us about this phone?
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's go on. Now, let's take a
Speaker 1: look at the past of Frederica Wilson. And when she
Speaker 1: said Donald Trump is on the brink of impeachment, so
Speaker 1: she doesn't realize that he is on the brink of
Speaker 1: impeachment and people will begin to call for him to
Speaker 1: be impeached and the Republicans will have to join in
Speaker 1: because they need to be on the right side of history.
Speaker 1: That was May of this year. She's not a Trump fan.
Speaker 1: She's also somebody that has a history of rushing to judgment,
Speaker 1: like in the Trayvon Martin case. Mr Speaker, this is
Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin's murderer is still at large. It's
Speaker 1: been one month, thirty days with no arrest. I want
Speaker 1: America to see this sweet young boy who was hunted
Speaker 1: down like a dog, shot in the street, and his
Speaker 1: killer is still at large. We went through a case.
Speaker 1: There was an eye witness in the case that put
Speaker 1: trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, grounding and pounding
Speaker 1: his head into pavement, and it was George Zimmerman's scream
Speaker 1: and a jury found him not guilty. She rushed to judgment.
Speaker 1: The real enemy, she says, is the Tea Party. She
Speaker 1: said this in August while we discussed real concerns. Real
Speaker 1: enemy is and the real enemy is the T So
Speaker 1: she's got a political agenda and she changed her story slightly.
Speaker 1: There was a story saying that, well hang on us.
Speaker 1: At first she was talking about the death of US
Speaker 1: soldiers in Niger could be trump'spen Ghazi. Here's what she said,
Speaker 1: do you is it your impression from what you've heard
Speaker 1: from the Pentagon or just in Congress that on this mission,
Speaker 1: did these soldiers have the necessary cover From the mission
Speaker 1: they were on. It doesn't seem as if they had
Speaker 1: sufficient cover. It doesn't seem they had sufficient vehicles, the
Speaker 1: appropriate armored cars. It feels it is as if they
Speaker 1: were outnumbered. It seems as if he was missing for
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, but his transmitter was still beeping, and
Speaker 1: it seems as if they could have found him. This
Speaker 1: might wind up to be Mr Trump's been ghazi. So
Speaker 1: he needs to investigate this very very closely, because I
Speaker 1: will be making sure that Congress does that. She also
Speaker 1: claimed two different versions of this story here in the
Speaker 1: conversation with his mother. One story said her driver was
Speaker 1: with her, but in another story, she said her press
Speaker 1: secretary was with her. Issue changes a story slightly had
Speaker 1: him say, uh, well, you know this is what he
Speaker 1: signed I'm sure he knows that this is what he
Speaker 1: signed up for, but it still hurts. And the fattest
Speaker 1: part of this he kept referring to the David as
Speaker 1: your guy. I'm not the only person who had the
Speaker 1: conversation in the A d uh, my driver, some gentlemens
Speaker 1: from the army and the driver of them. And then
Speaker 1: she says it's a press secretary. She's after Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: She said that the president was throwing paper towels at
Speaker 1: the crowd, saying it was terrible and abominable. She went
Speaker 1: on to say, uh, we have the Trayvon hunted down
Speaker 1: like a rabid dog and shot in the street and
Speaker 1: racially profiled. She said President Trump on the brink of impeachment,
Speaker 1: and many more, many more instances she hates President Trump.
Speaker 1: She seems to have an agenda, and people are gonna say, well, well, Sean,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what was said or not said,
Speaker 1: but Sheba wants to believe the worst in the president.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe that this president. I don't believe
Speaker 1: any president whatever call a grieving mother her and be
Speaker 1: as insensitive as she is describing. And I believe we're
Speaker 1: being told a lie by this congresswoman. And I feel
Speaker 1: like she is taking advantage for political purposes. And that's sad.
Speaker 1: And she has a history of rushing to judgment, a
Speaker 1: history of not telling the truth. That's really sad. Obama
Speaker 1: could have called General Kelly's son, he didn't even pick
Speaker 1: up the phone. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: cast judgments on the Obama about why he did or
Speaker 1: didn't do it. I'm sure he reached out to other
Speaker 1: military families, but to say that, well, you knew what
Speaker 1: he was buying into and therefore he knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna die. I don't believe that it happened that way,
Speaker 1: and this congresswoman is trying to make this the biggest
Speaker 1: issue in the country, and I'm just based on her
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Speaker 1: you my perspective. Words don't mean as much to me
Speaker 1: as actions. That's just me. You know, when my son
Speaker 1: was killed, he was killed in the are just loss
Speaker 1: of life in the history of naval special warfare. And
Speaker 1: we had thirty family, thirty families at Dover Air Base
Speaker 1: waiting for our sons to be our son's bodies to
Speaker 1: be returned from Afghanistan. And you know what we experienced
Speaker 1: there was And I'm not just trying to I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to draw a contrast. I'm not trying to bring
Speaker 1: up old news. But you know what we experienced there is.
Speaker 1: The families unanimously asked Barack Obama to not bring any media,
Speaker 1: to not make this a media event, that he was
Speaker 1: welcome to be with us, but no media. And you know,
Speaker 1: he showed up with cameras and the next day our
Speaker 1: pictures are His picture saluting the caskets of our boys
Speaker 1: was plastered over every every outlet in America, I guess.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just saying, you know, if you're gonna,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna just be outraged that one person says
Speaker 1: something that that could be construed as a flippant remark
Speaker 1: without a lot of thought put behind it. You know
Speaker 1: what about the outrage over the things people do? All right?
Speaker 1: That was the Karen Vaughan, she's the mother of former
Speaker 1: Navy seal air In Vaughan. She wrote a book it's
Speaker 1: called World Changed, Her Mother's Story. I can't think anything
Speaker 1: worse than losing your son. And anyway, Aaron was one
Speaker 1: of thirty American servicemen who died on board a helicopter.
Speaker 1: The helicopter was called Extortion seven Team when it was
Speaker 1: shot down in Afghanistan. That happened back in August, and
Speaker 1: many who were killed were members of Sealed Team six,
Speaker 1: the largest loss of military life in a single day
Speaker 1: when the War on Terror began. What you had heard
Speaker 1: there was Karen Vaughan explaining that, yeah, the president and
Speaker 1: they were invited to come. They could come, but they
Speaker 1: were specifically told not to bring cameras. And Karen Vaughan
Speaker 1: joins us, Now you all the families that agreed they
Speaker 1: didn't want cameras there when the bodies came. That's correct
Speaker 1: or wrong that that's what we were told, sewn absolutely
Speaker 1: what we were told and promised. Now, did you ever
Speaker 1: get a call from President Obama? No, for crying out loud, no,
Speaker 1: we sure didn't. You know, got an invitation to the
Speaker 1: White House. We've been invited to the White House by
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I mean, the difference, the contrast is startling.
Speaker 1: But no, never a call from President Obama. Well, we're
Speaker 1: getting more information by the hour. I'm sure that you've
Speaker 1: heard of this congresswoman Fredrika Wilson, and she's making all
Speaker 1: these horrible charges. Well, he knew what he signed up
Speaker 1: for anyway. And I don't believe this congresswoman because this
Speaker 1: is the same person that has called the president a racist. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is the person that said if Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: a student at a school I served as principal and
Speaker 1: behaved so crudely, he'd be expelled. She said, President Trump
Speaker 1: just waived the white flag, and he's you know, so
Speaker 1: many of them. I refused to stand by and let
Speaker 1: Trump succeed in his assault on working families. A president
Speaker 1: Trump has nothing to hide. He should do this and
Speaker 1: that he's on the verge of impeachment, and it goes
Speaker 1: on and on from there, and she has insulted him
Speaker 1: the entire time she's president. And now we know that
Speaker 1: General John Kelly was in the room, that several other
Speaker 1: people were in the room when the President was having
Speaker 1: the conversation with this poor mother, who my thought, heart
Speaker 1: and prayers go out to. And everybody in the media
Speaker 1: is running wild because a woman that hates the president
Speaker 1: is spreading this story like wildfire, and nobody seems to
Speaker 1: want to hear the fact that there are witnesses that
Speaker 1: are heard from the President's side, several people in the room,
Speaker 1: including John Kelly, and that nobody heard what Congresswoman Frederica
Speaker 1: Wilson said. And I just wanted to call you and
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it. You know what I can
Speaker 1: tell you from my experience with this president that he
Speaker 1: is is compassionate towards families of the fallen. Is any
Speaker 1: human I've been around in the past six years since
Speaker 1: Aaron left this earth, he has been unbelievably gracious to
Speaker 1: the gold Star community. Shawn opened up an entire wing
Speaker 1: of the White House. I think it's happened more than once.
Speaker 1: I've been invited once, my daughter in law was invited,
Speaker 1: My grandchildren were invited by grandchildren literally got to play
Speaker 1: in the White House theater. I mean, he basically told
Speaker 1: everybody that we spoke to that night said that, He said,
Speaker 1: this is their house tonight. They have free access to
Speaker 1: every single thing in They're in here, and we ditch on.
Speaker 1: That's the reverence and respect that Donald Trump has for
Speaker 1: the gold Star community. I just find this astounding that
Speaker 1: somebody is twisting his words like this to to manufacture
Speaker 1: a problem out of out of a president who has
Speaker 1: enough respect and love and passion and come passion for
Speaker 1: fallen heroes to make a phone call to a family
Speaker 1: member to tell them how sorry he isn't And you
Speaker 1: know what, Sean, The thing is is, I don't even
Speaker 1: care if you said what he said. Do you know
Speaker 1: President George W. Bush said those very same words to
Speaker 1: Billy and I when we met with him last fall,
Speaker 1: and we weren't offended by those words at all. Those
Speaker 1: were even if you said those words, I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't know what was said. But even if he said
Speaker 1: those words, that he knew what he was getting into.
Speaker 1: But it's still very tragic. Those words have spoken to
Speaker 1: us full sentence. All all the media is reporting is that, well,
Speaker 1: he knew what he signed up for, but the sentence
Speaker 1: goes on. But the sentence, who goes on? But when
Speaker 1: it happens, they know the risk that but when it happens,
Speaker 1: it hurts. That doesn't sound offensive to me. I've had
Speaker 1: admiral say that phrase to me. I've had another president
Speaker 1: say that phraise to me. I've had dozens of people
Speaker 1: in leadership make that phrase to me. Sean, that is
Speaker 1: just a common thing that people say. We all agree
Speaker 1: that our sons are war fighters. They were heroes, they
Speaker 1: were warriors, and they did what they were that, they
Speaker 1: did what they loved doing, and Aaron died doing what
Speaker 1: he loved doing. So for anyone to say that to me,
Speaker 1: it's not offensive at all. And like you said, the
Speaker 1: end of that sentence is that but it's never easy
Speaker 1: or something to that effect. And we all understand that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is no father, he's a husband, he's a
Speaker 1: good man, and this is a ludicrous issue being dragging
Speaker 1: his name through the mud over something. This woman has
Speaker 1: talked about impeaching him, She has called him a racist.
Speaker 1: This woman rushed to judgment in the in the Trayvon
Speaker 1: Martin case and used the most cindiary language. He accused
Speaker 1: him of Puerto Rico of throwing paper towels of people
Speaker 1: who are suffering. It's horrifying that he's throwing paper towels
Speaker 1: at them. That Trayvon Martin was hunted down like a
Speaker 1: rabid dog and shot in the street and racially profiled, Well,
Speaker 1: that's not what the evidence in that case proved. It's
Speaker 1: a tragedy. It's I wish it never happened. You know
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is on the brink of impeachment. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just the young woman that lost her son is
Speaker 1: twenty four years old, and I think, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be I'm not trying to be crude or
Speaker 1: insulting here, but really it's this simple. Mrs Wilson is
Speaker 1: looking for attention. You can tell that by the kind
Speaker 1: of hats you put on every day, that the kind
Speaker 1: of you know this is. She's just a woman looking
Speaker 1: for attention. And now she says it's sex if you're
Speaker 1: if she wants the rules changed about the hat um. Karen,
Speaker 1: we love you, We're You're always in our prayers. As
Speaker 1: is this mother. I mean, it just is sad. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: let me go back. I appreciate your time, Thank you
Speaker 1: for taking your time. As always, we appreciate it. Getting
Speaker 1: the true doubt is what we like to do on
Speaker 1: the show. The media won't do it. They're just gonna
Speaker 1: run with Oh, Frederico Wilson said it. They won't give
Speaker 1: any context. He hates Donald Trump. Now. They tried to
Speaker 1: create the same image of President Trump as it relates
Speaker 1: to Vegas. Remember we went out to Vegas and watched
Speaker 1: the media like try and push people that met the
Speaker 1: president that had loved ones that were injured, and I
Speaker 1: was at the hospital. Hospital loved them, the people that
Speaker 1: worked there, the families loved him. He went and talked
Speaker 1: with everybody. They're spent like two hours more than he
Speaker 1: was supposed to, and that didn't get reported. They tried
Speaker 1: to portray him as having no empathy. Here's what they
Speaker 1: did in Vegas. The one in Vegas. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: we played it. I't want to play it again. Do
Speaker 1: you remember when he asked, Yeah, he was ask him
Speaker 1: like who playing and what we like? He he knew
Speaker 1: that a lot of people knew. It sounded like fireworks
Speaker 1: which a lot of people did. And so he was
Speaker 1: asking what I did where I went? Did he offer
Speaker 1: you words of comfort? Did he say anything that stands
Speaker 1: out to you? He said he was amazing. Where was that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was like super nice. He wasn't who we see
Speaker 1: on social media. He was much more comforting. What did
Speaker 1: he say that was so comforting? I don't know, kissed
Speaker 1: her invoice and just the way he was. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: I went there the day after the president was there,
Speaker 1: and I met many of the same people the President met,
Speaker 1: and they were ecstatic. Oh, you mean he is empathy
Speaker 1: cares with all due respect, Barack Obama didn't pick up
Speaker 1: the phone for General Kelly and Jessica Vaughan story a
Speaker 1: carrot Maud story rather is even more disturbing. Thomas Gunderson
Speaker 1: is another case. You know, I just I'm just sick
Speaker 1: and tired of people that so hate this president. I
Speaker 1: want to believe something that is almost impossible for any
Speaker 1: good human soul. Well, he's not good, Hannity. He he
Speaker 1: used those words on the Bush locker room talk. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he has compassion has children. You don't think
Speaker 1: he has empathy for a parent that lost their child.
Speaker 1: This is what the media has been running with all day,
Speaker 1: all day. This is what because they don't like him,
Speaker 1: they won't give you the context. Who is Frederica Wilson?
Speaker 1: What has she said? What's There's not one thing I
Speaker 1: can think of that she hasn't said about this president
Speaker 1: for crying out loud. By the way, we've got congressional
Speaker 1: conservatives now rightly are pushing back against the proposed Obamacare compromise,
Speaker 1: which would be basically the government funding Obamacare. And because
Speaker 1: Lamar Alexander and Patty Murray made a stupid deal good
Speaker 1: for the Congress. I hear Paul Ryan said, no, we're
Speaker 1: not doing it good for him. By the way, in
Speaker 1: Great Britain, their version of Obamacare, the Health Services Plan,
Speaker 1: it bands surgery if you smoke or you're overweight. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's half of America. We're all overweight a little bit.
Speaker 1: I know I'm in that category. Ethan, you're in a
Speaker 1: too so shush up, Jason, maybe not so much. You're
Speaker 1: not overweight. Stop saying you are. Yeah, because you guys
Speaker 1: made me take pictures today. You're all full of flattery
Speaker 1: that I haven't taken pictures in fifteen years, and you
Speaker 1: finally said it doesn't even look like you anymore, and
Speaker 1: then made me take some shots some whatever. They I
Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about it. Oh get this,
Speaker 1: Samantha Powers. I was so good today. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I get a hundred today. I was so good. I
Speaker 1: didn't complain once that I complain one time about taking
Speaker 1: the photos that you made me take today that I
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I'm not exactly sure what you mean
Speaker 1: by complain. Okay, was I not a You were definitely
Speaker 1: on good behavior. I just okay, I'll do it. And
Speaker 1: then you said, put your chin down, put your chin down,
Speaker 1: put you chin down. I'm thinking, why I have five chins,
Speaker 1: so you want me to put it down and hide it? No?
Speaker 1: I don't, Thank god, they can. You did so, you said,
Speaker 1: put your chin down, put your chan look this way,
Speaker 1: fold your arms, move your head to the side, move
Speaker 1: it up down sideways. This that sound nice? You looked
Speaker 1: in those pictures. Oh my gosh. I did not complain.
Speaker 1: I just I sucked it up. And everyone said that
Speaker 1: you were a rock star in your photo shoot. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Samantha Powers is now claiming that others used her name
Speaker 1: to unmask Trump officials. You have one prominent attorney now
Speaker 1: is moving to have James comey this part. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I can't believe I have to spend all
Speaker 1: of this time on this whole thing. I'd rather be
Speaker 1: raising money for the for the this poor woman that
Speaker 1: lost her husband and has a child on the way,
Speaker 1: I'd rather raise money for them. If there's a place
Speaker 1: that we can go that I can donate money to
Speaker 1: our I want to donate some money to her instead
Speaker 1: of the media doing all of that. And then, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'll challenge everyone else in the media. They're
Speaker 1: all rich, spoiled brats. I'll offer I'll start a fund.
Speaker 1: I want everybody in the media, let's all give them
Speaker 1: ten tho dollars to the to the wife of this
Speaker 1: poor guy. They can afford it. Let's see how many
Speaker 1: CNN and MSNBC people come up. That's it's all put
Speaker 1: in ten grand each and and for that child and
Speaker 1: for that for that poor woman, instead of trying what
Speaker 1: do you think was he what did they say it
Speaker 1: the wrong way? Did he say it the wrong way?
Speaker 1: You know it doesn't have any compassion. And I love
Speaker 1: these people in the media. You know, you get to
Speaker 1: go up to people that just lost their loved ones
Speaker 1: or just had their everything they own wrecked, And in
Speaker 1: the moments after, they don't care if they're crying or anything.
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, how do you feel? Why do
Speaker 1: you think I feel? You, jackass? I feel great. My
Speaker 1: house just got destroyed. They never offer money to help
Speaker 1: them out. What do they do? I'm just sick of it.
Speaker 1: So I want to see these spoiled brats in the media,
Speaker 1: you know, CBS, NBC, ABC, every news anchor, Matt Lower, everybody,
Speaker 1: give ten grant. They can all afford it. Or if
Speaker 1: you really want to be generous, we can go up
Speaker 1: to fourteen grand tax free and give fourteen grand tax
Speaker 1: free to this this poor woman who lost her husband.
Speaker 1: And I'm giving the first fourteen grand. All right, Linda,
Speaker 1: You'll figure out how to send the money to her.
Speaker 1: And I'd like to see other people in the media
Speaker 1: do it. By the way, Mueller is accused of covering
Speaker 1: up we have so much on this news story. Well wait,
Speaker 1: do you hear the next hour of this program, because
Speaker 1: we've got part two of the story we broke yesterday.
Speaker 1: We told you all about the bribery and the extortion
Speaker 1: and the kickbacks and the money laundering and the uranium
Speaker 1: one deal and how the FBI had all this evidence
Speaker 1: and guess what they let the deal go through anyway
Speaker 1: they let it go through. Well, now we find out
Speaker 1: that the FBI had an informant, and the FBI informant
Speaker 1: wanted to tell Congress about the Russian nuclear corruption case
Speaker 1: and he was forbidden from doing so. I can't even
Speaker 1: believe how corrupt this country is. One Shawn is a
Speaker 1: toll free telephone number. You want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the program, you know, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: The media in this country makes me nauseous. They're just
Speaker 1: they're sickening. And all those I don't mind that you
Speaker 1: hate Donald Trump, go ahead, I hate him all you want.
Speaker 1: But you know, now we're gonna say is no empathy
Speaker 1: and you're gonna take a lot. Maybe it was in
Speaker 1: articulate at the worst, but every witness that heard him says,
Speaker 1: no Obama never called John Kelly after General Kelly after
Speaker 1: his son died. And we just heard from Mrs Mrs Vaughan,
Speaker 1: Aaron Vaughn's mother. She didn't want cameras when her son's
Speaker 1: body came back, but they were there, you know, photo shoot,
Speaker 1: photo opportunity. You're not gonna believe today's development of the
Speaker 1: story we were following yesterday. You know that little old
Speaker 1: story about bribery, kickbacks, extortion, money laundering for the uranium
Speaker 1: one deal. Well, now we find out that, in fact,
Speaker 1: the FBI informant that knew all about it, just like
Speaker 1: the FBI and the Eric Holder Justice Department, was blocked
Speaker 1: from telling Congress about the case of Russian nuclear corruption.
Speaker 1: You talk about a cover up, We've got the details.
Speaker 1: What are you doing to find out how the Ratian
Speaker 1: takeover of the American uranium was allowed to occur despite
Speaker 1: criminal conduct by the Ratian company that the Obama administration
Speaker 1: had proved to make the purchase. Mr Chairman, Uh, we
Speaker 1: will hear your concerns. The Department of Justice will take
Speaker 1: such actions as is appropriate. I know, and I would
Speaker 1: would offer that some people have gone to jail in
Speaker 1: that transaction already. But the article talks about other issues,
Speaker 1: So without confirming or denying the existence of any particular investigation,
Speaker 1: I would say, I hear your concerns, and they will
Speaker 1: be reviewed. I think I know why you're probably reluctant
Speaker 1: to go into some detail on that. But I would
Speaker 1: like to remind you that Deputy Attorney Rosenstein directly supervised
Speaker 1: the criminal case when he was U S attorney in Maryland.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be proper for him to
Speaker 1: supervise a review of his own conduct, do you? It
Speaker 1: would be his decision. He's a man of integrity and ability.
Speaker 1: If he feels that he has a UH inability to
Speaker 1: proceed with any in this investigation, it would be his
Speaker 1: responsibility to make that determination and should consult as I
Speaker 1: told you I would, and as I have done with
Speaker 1: the senior ethics people at the Department. Reports suggest that
Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation received millions of dollars from interested parties
Speaker 1: in the transaction. UH. Bill Clinton received five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: for a speech in Moscow June from the Ratian government
Speaker 1: a line bank. The same month as a speech, Ratia
Speaker 1: Gate began the uranium acquisition process. This fact pattern raises
Speaker 1: serious concerns about improper political influence by the Clintons during
Speaker 1: the Obama administration. Has the Justice Department fully investigated whether
Speaker 1: the Rasians compromised the Obama administration's decisions to smooth a
Speaker 1: weight for transactions, and if not, why not? Mr. Chairman,
Speaker 1: We're working hard to maintain discipline in the department. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on any ongoing investigation,
Speaker 1: all right. That was earlier today during a hearing with
Speaker 1: Senator Grassley and the Attorney General of the United States,
Speaker 1: Attorney General Sessions. Now, he was being grilled over the
Speaker 1: story that we went into great detail yesterday that was
Speaker 1: broken by Circa dot Com Sarah Carter and the Hills
Speaker 1: John Solomon. And that's the story basically about the FBI
Speaker 1: had all this evidence, documents, emails, financial records, I witnesses
Speaker 1: proving that Vladimir Putin and Russia Moscow was using bribery, kickbacks, extortion,
Speaker 1: money laundering all to influence and secure the uranium one deal,
Speaker 1: and that millions of millions benefited Bill and Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: and the Clinton Foundation. This is now the trail that
Speaker 1: we had been waiting for that proves corruption in this case.
Speaker 1: And the Attorney General he hit it from everybody. And
Speaker 1: on top of that, they all knew before they signed
Speaker 1: off on giving of America's uranium to Vladimir Putin and Russia,
Speaker 1: which makes no sense whats whatsoever except it's one of
Speaker 1: the dumbest things that could ever happen and likely illegal. Well,
Speaker 1: now we have a new development today, and it's really simple.
Speaker 1: There was an FBI informant that knew all of this information.
Speaker 1: This FBI informant wanted to Congress about the Russian nuclear
Speaker 1: corruption case. An American businessman who worked for years undercover
Speaker 1: for the FBI confidential witness was literally blocked by the
Speaker 1: Obama Justice Department from telling Congress, which is what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to do, about the conversations, transactions, the things that
Speaker 1: he witnessed as it relates to this Russian nuclear industry
Speaker 1: effort to win over favor from Bill and Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: and influenced the administration's decisions, which they successfully did anyway.
Speaker 1: From Circuit dot Com, Sarah Carter is back with us. Also,
Speaker 1: legal analyst Greg Jared has now written to outstanding columns
Speaker 1: UH summing all of this up as it relates to
Speaker 1: the legal aspects of all of this. Uh, Sarah, why
Speaker 1: don't we start with the details and we'll go to
Speaker 1: Greg for the legal side of this. UH. Explain exactly
Speaker 1: where we are and what the how profound this is.
Speaker 1: These developments are very fern Shawn, you know, I can
Speaker 1: tell you that when uh, the informant came to through
Speaker 1: his attorney, UH, right at the beginning, he had seen
Speaker 1: actual sum me on your show on Fox and was
Speaker 1: desperate to tell his story. There's some circumstances in ad
Speaker 1: life that are pushing him in that direction. Uh. And
Speaker 1: now we can see that after this story came out.
Speaker 1: But there is a new push on the Hill right
Speaker 1: now with Senator grass Lee to investigate this. And I
Speaker 1: think this is very important. And the fact that Attorney
Speaker 1: General Session couldn't talk either way, that's that's how it goes,
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not there was an ongoing investigation
Speaker 1: right now into this is also highly significant. And I
Speaker 1: think it tells us that they're taking this seriously, that
Speaker 1: they're going to be looking into this. When the Shippius
Speaker 1: Board approved in October of that year, in two thousand ten,
Speaker 1: to allow these Russian entities to purchase US uranium supply,
Speaker 1: d fb I had already for fifteen months been investigating this,
Speaker 1: and they were investigating the Starns because the informant for
Speaker 1: the FBI when he went to take on that contract
Speaker 1: with the Russians and found out that they wanted him
Speaker 1: to launderer money to launderer money to buy access in
Speaker 1: the United States. He went straight to the Justice Department
Speaker 1: department and said, this is my duty as an American,
Speaker 1: my duty as an American to tell you this is
Speaker 1: what I'm being asked to do. And then he decided
Speaker 1: to stay and do this, do this investigation with the
Speaker 1: FBI because they asked him to, and he was providing
Speaker 1: all of that information to the Justice Department. He was
Speaker 1: providing everything, much more, much more than we have already reported,
Speaker 1: by the way, some things which he considers classified and
Speaker 1: does not want to discuss with anyone, especially with reporters.
Speaker 1: He would like to talk to someone in the Justice Department.
Speaker 1: But right now he was threatened. He was threatened under
Speaker 1: the Justice Department at that point. Um he was under
Speaker 1: Eric Holder when he originally started this, and then it
Speaker 1: went to Loretta Lige and then was threatened with his liberty,
Speaker 1: which means jail time or his reputation would be destroyed.
Speaker 1: And I've seen the documents myself, and I've talked to
Speaker 1: him about this personally with his attorney. If he said anything,
Speaker 1: but now this is no old bars. He wants to
Speaker 1: come out, He wants to talk to someone. He's hoping
Speaker 1: that somebody was in the Justice Department will lift his NDA,
Speaker 1: which is his nondisclosure agreement with the FBI, which by
Speaker 1: the way, the FBI won't give him a copy of.
Speaker 1: So basically, what we're learning here is they knew all
Speaker 1: about ribery, they knew all about kickbacks, they knew all
Speaker 1: about extortion, they knew all about money laundering. They knew
Speaker 1: all about Vladimir Putin's efforts to get into our our
Speaker 1: our nuclear our nuclear arsenal, basically through uranium because it's
Speaker 1: the foundational materials for that. They've FBI had all of
Speaker 1: this evidence. You have this whistleblower that wants to tell
Speaker 1: the truth, but they hide the truth and then they
Speaker 1: end up giving Putin everything he wanted. Is that I
Speaker 1: can I sum it up that way? Is that what
Speaker 1: really happened? You can definitely sum it up that way.
Speaker 1: And we well, the answer thought both the Senate, as
Speaker 1: a reporter wants to know, I'm sure the Justice Department
Speaker 1: is looking into now is what did the SITHIUST members know? Now,
Speaker 1: According to the people I've spoken rich very high level
Speaker 1: of former officials with the FBI that were very well
Speaker 1: aware of what needed to be done. During that cythiust process,
Speaker 1: they were required each entity, each of the third key
Speaker 1: entities of government, to do their own investigations to reveal
Speaker 1: everything that they knew about these companies before the purchase
Speaker 1: went through. So, according to the people I've spoken with,
Speaker 1: those and that information should have been delivered. It should
Speaker 1: have been delivered by then in Maryland, UH the Attorney General,
Speaker 1: Rod Rosenstein, and then UH Andrew McCabe who was working
Speaker 1: in the cage as the head of the Washington FBI
Speaker 1: Field Office. This is really should have all been delivered,
Speaker 1: and there was so much more information because this inform
Speaker 1: it gave information. And apparently, and this is what I
Speaker 1: was told through his attorney, that his FBI handlers delivered
Speaker 1: the information directly to the White House, that he actually
Speaker 1: made President Obama's White House briefings a number of times.
Speaker 1: Can you explain those from the legal side. You've written
Speaker 1: great columns, Greg, I don't want to sum it up
Speaker 1: for you because you've done all the work, and explain
Speaker 1: those for everybody, well as for Hillary Clinton. If the
Speaker 1: evidence is as reported and great reporting by Sarah and
Speaker 1: John Solomon at the Hill, but if it is as reported,
Speaker 1: and there are these documents, then it would constitute pay
Speaker 1: to play, which is there are all kinds of anti
Speaker 1: corruption statutes, bribery fraud, wire fraud, and so forth. But
Speaker 1: as I pointed out a year ago, it looks like
Speaker 1: she has committed violations of rocketeering, which is using a
Speaker 1: business for a corrupt and illegal enterprise. That business is
Speaker 1: her charity, and so it seems to me there should
Speaker 1: be a new special prosecutor to investigate that. As for Muller,
Speaker 1: Come and Rosenstein, all three of them were privy to
Speaker 1: this information over all these long years. They never told
Speaker 1: Congress about it, They didn't stop the iranium deal with
Speaker 1: the Russians, and Mueller, Komi, and Rosenstein are all involved
Speaker 1: now in the investigation of Trump. So it looks like
Speaker 1: they covered up Hillary Russia collusion and now we're determined
Speaker 1: to bring down Trump for alleged Trump Russian collusion. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't make this up. Shut alright. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to understand does this now is there a prime of
Speaker 1: facial case here to build against Hillary and the Clint
Speaker 1: and the Clinton Foundation that shows that it's a quid
Speaker 1: pro quote, that it's a kickback, that they had knowledge
Speaker 1: that all of this was going on, and did they
Speaker 1: put national security at risk knowingly? Listen, when you're selling
Speaker 1: an enormous of idal asset like uranium to Russians, who
Speaker 1: are for the most part our enemy, um, yes, you
Speaker 1: are jeopardizing national security. And Eric Holder, who sat on
Speaker 1: the committee that unanimously approved this, presided over by Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 1: he knew of all of the bribery and money laundring
Speaker 1: UH and kickbacks associated with is. He had the evidence.
Speaker 1: He was, you know, the attorney general overseeing it all,
Speaker 1: and apparently he kept quiet about it, and he participated
Speaker 1: in the approval of this sale. It's absolutely unconscionable, and yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's knowingly and deliberately selling out America's national
Speaker 1: security to the Russians. I can't even believe the level
Speaker 1: of corruption here Legally. What needs to happen next? I
Speaker 1: don't get back to Sarah Well, I would say two things.
Speaker 1: First of all, Congress needs to question Holder, Muller, Comey
Speaker 1: and Rosenstein. Comy, or rather Muller and Rosenstein should either
Speaker 1: be fired or recuse themselves, and a new UH special
Speaker 1: prosecutor should take over to investigate the Trump collusion. There's
Speaker 1: no evidence after you know, a year or more, that
Speaker 1: there was any collusion. And the second thing should happen.
Speaker 1: And Congress has already demanded this a second special prosecutor,
Speaker 1: and Jeff Sessions needs to get off his duff and
Speaker 1: he needs to appoint a second special prosecutor to investigate
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. And and by the way, while you're at it,
Speaker 1: don't just investigate corruption within our foundation, but the email
Speaker 1: scandal as well, because there is more than enough evidence
Speaker 1: to bring charges under the Espionage Act. Last word, Sarah,
Speaker 1: where are we going next? I think we just keep
Speaker 1: digging and we look at the evidence as we see it. Um,
Speaker 1: do you think the money when we talk about money laundering,
Speaker 1: is there any chance the money came from Russia to
Speaker 1: the foundation of the Clinton's I believe, based on the
Speaker 1: evidence that I've seen and the sources that I've talked to,
Speaker 1: that there is a significant amount of evidence sean to
Speaker 1: show that that was definitely a possibility. And I can
Speaker 1: tell you, and I'm telling you in a roundabout way
Speaker 1: because I think it's going to be up to the sources,
Speaker 1: It's going to be up to the to the Justice Department,
Speaker 1: and to the Senate to talk to the right people.
Speaker 1: We see this evidence on its face. We have the
Speaker 1: lawyer for this, this witness that wanted to tell Congress
Speaker 1: tonight that if we lift the n DA, the world
Speaker 1: can know the truth. We're gonna blow this wide open tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll see you then and we'll have more. We'll have
Speaker 1: an update on this story tomorrow because nobody else in
Speaker 1: the media is covering it because they just suck. They
Speaker 1: just are so lazy, it's disgusting. And they're trying to
Speaker 1: literally use a crazy congresswoman as a means of hurting
Speaker 1: the president. That's absolutely vicious and vile and a new
Speaker 1: low for them if it's even possible and real Russia collusion. Hey,
Speaker 1: all of us here in the Hannity Show, sweet baby, James,
Speaker 1: and and Linda, and Lauren, and and Ethan and Jason.
Speaker 1: Jason is very angry today. What do you mean as
Speaker 1: you're in a bad mood today? What did I do?
Speaker 1: Do I do something? What do I You don't look
Speaker 1: happy today? What's the matter? Do I ever look happy?
Speaker 1: That's actually a good point. No, you're great at your
Speaker 1: job and you're focused on your job, but just you're
Speaker 1: looking at me with Daggers today. All right, So we
Speaker 1: got a story. We're gonna it came with our buddy
Speaker 1: Dr Josh Umberg. When we get back. As it relates to,
Speaker 1: congressional leaders came up with a bipartisan deal. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: want to extend Obamacare subsidies. Now, thank god we have
Speaker 1: congressional conservatives. Uh, that's only justifying what is wrong with
Speaker 1: what happened in terms of Obamacare. We're not going along
Speaker 1: with it, even the President at the Heritage Foundations and no,
Speaker 1: that's not the right Now, that's not the right idea. Uh,
Speaker 1: you can't bail out insurance companies as a means of
Speaker 1: not keeping your promise to repeal and replace Obamacare. Also
Speaker 1: tell you the benefits of the executive order that the
Speaker 1: President signed, of course, that allows individuals to form associations
Speaker 1: as like corporations have been able to do since nine four.
Speaker 1: And that means you have purchasing powers of big groups,
Speaker 1: buying across state lines, buying into cooperatives like Dr Numbers,
Speaker 1: or even setting up your own health savings accounts, and
Speaker 1: getting catastrophic care. All right, So we'll get to all
Speaker 1: of that when we get back. And then at the
Speaker 1: top of the hour, We're gonna talk to Dylan Howard.
Speaker 1: We have the latest on how Hollywood knew everything, the
Speaker 1: media knew everything as it relates to Harvey Weinstein and others.
Speaker 1: And then well, I'm gonna talk to my friends that
Speaker 1: helped create this movie that is out in nine days.
Speaker 1: Let there be light. It's all coming up this edition
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Shawn is our number here in America.
Speaker 1: We are strengthening our own freedom by appointing judges to
Speaker 1: the bench who will support and defend the Constitution of
Speaker 1: the United States. With your help, we have not only nominated,
Speaker 1: but confirmed the new Supreme Court Justice who is doing
Speaker 1: a spectacular job, Neil Gorsuch. We have taken action to
Speaker 1: repeal the e P A so called Clean Power Plan,
Speaker 1: and we have ended, finally the war on clean Beautiful
Speaker 1: call people going back to work. They're going back to work.
Speaker 1: Over the last nine months, we have removed job killing
Speaker 1: regulations at a record pace. In fact, in nine months,
Speaker 1: we have done more, they say, than any president in history.
Speaker 1: And when nine months and there's more to come. We
Speaker 1: have statutory guidelines we have to go by a period
Speaker 1: of time, but there's much more to come. And I
Speaker 1: believe in regulation, but it has to be limited to
Speaker 1: what we need. We want clean water, we want clean air.
Speaker 1: It has to be fair. We also want, by the way,
Speaker 1: jobs to restore opportunity and freedom. We must continue our
Speaker 1: campaign to repeal and replace the disaster known as Obamacare.
Speaker 1: And I've been hearing that phrase for seven years. Seven years.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing it, so have you. And I got
Speaker 1: here and I thought, maybe when I sit down at
Speaker 1: that desk the first day January, I'll have something to sign.
Speaker 1: Not as easy as we thought, but we're going to
Speaker 1: get it done. You watch, and I'm pleased the Democrats
Speaker 1: have finally responded to my call for them to take
Speaker 1: responsibility for their Obamacare disaster and work with Republicans to
Speaker 1: provide much needed relief to the American people. While I
Speaker 1: commend the bipartisan work done by Senators Alexander and Murray,
Speaker 1: and I do commend it, I continued to believe Congress
Speaker 1: must find a solution to the Obamacare mess instead of
Speaker 1: providing bailouts to insurance companies. Well, we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: the bipartisan We're going to see the bipartisan and Lamar
Speaker 1: Alexander's working on it very hard from our side, and
Speaker 1: if something can happen, that's fine. But I won't do
Speaker 1: anything to enrich the insurance companies because right now the
Speaker 1: insurance companies are being enriched. They've been enriched by Obamacare
Speaker 1: like nothing anybody's ever seen before. I am not going
Speaker 1: to do anything to enrich the insurance companies. Now in
Speaker 1: the House, we've been extraordinarily productive. We've passed our agenda,
Speaker 1: we passed all of our appropriation bills. I had to
Speaker 1: schedule this year for the first time a Republican majority
Speaker 1: since two thousand four. So the House. You believe the
Speaker 1: House is tainted by the inaction in the healthcare is
Speaker 1: perfect example. We passed our repeal and replaced healthcare bill
Speaker 1: in May. How frustrating was it was John McCain who
Speaker 1: promised a hundred times to repealing up because I'm frustrated.
Speaker 1: We're the ones who passed it. We're the ones who
Speaker 1: said we would do this and then to see it passed,
Speaker 1: said it was by the way, it wasn't easy. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy, but it's extremely frustrating. This a few moments,
Speaker 1: I will sign an executive order taking the first steps
Speaker 1: to providing millions of America with Obamacare relief. It directs
Speaker 1: the Department of Health and Human Services, the Treasury, and
Speaker 1: the Department of Labor to take action to increase competition,
Speaker 1: increased choice, and increase access to lower priced, high quality
Speaker 1: healthcare options. And they will have so many options. This
Speaker 1: will cost the United States Government virtually nothing, and people
Speaker 1: will have great, great healthcare. And when I say people,
Speaker 1: I mean by the millions and millions. First, we aim
Speaker 1: to allow more small businesses to form associations to buy
Speaker 1: affordable and competitive health insurance. This would open up additional
Speaker 1: options for employers to purchase the health plans their workers want.
Speaker 1: I'm also directing Secretary Accosted to consider ways to expand
Speaker 1: these associations and these healthcare plans all across state lines.
Speaker 1: This will create tremendous competition and transformative in so many ways.
Speaker 1: Change aimed at creating more and lower prices for millions
Speaker 1: of Americans, but the competition will be staggering. Insurance companies
Speaker 1: will be fighting to get every single person signed up
Speaker 1: alright till the top of the hour. New urgency since
Speaker 1: the President when I had on his own executive orders,
Speaker 1: allowing now individuals to create associations where they like corporations
Speaker 1: able to buy across state lines. Uh. For example, let's
Speaker 1: say you work in the in the restaurant industry and
Speaker 1: you want to have a restaurant association. Okay, that means
Speaker 1: anybody that works in the restaurant business from all fifty
Speaker 1: Stage could buy to, could join together form an association,
Speaker 1: have the purchasing power of as many people as they
Speaker 1: put in their association. And then all of the burdens
Speaker 1: of state laws and mandates of whatever state you happen
Speaker 1: to be in, and all the burdens of a c
Speaker 1: A or Obamacare would be taken away, and the subsidies
Speaker 1: for Obamacare from the federal government also go away, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't cost the taxpayers a penny. Now, with that said,
Speaker 1: then you have, of course Congress feeling a sense of urgency. Oh,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is gonna really give us a free market solution.
Speaker 1: So you had a compromise being offered and negotiated between
Speaker 1: Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Patty Murray of Washington, a
Speaker 1: big liberal and authorizing payments for two years in exchange
Speaker 1: for granting the STAGE greater flexibility to regulate health coverage
Speaker 1: under the a c A. But we don't need them
Speaker 1: for this in any way shape matter reform. That's the
Speaker 1: whole point. And Paul Ryan just earlier today put an
Speaker 1: end to it and in terms of the last ditch effort,
Speaker 1: and apparently the House is not happy with it because
Speaker 1: that means that they would be tacitly approving Obamacare and
Speaker 1: as subsidies, which I agree with Paul Ryan on in
Speaker 1: this case. Anyway, here to discuss it, Dr josh Umber,
Speaker 1: I mean he ought to be charging us now to
Speaker 1: be on the program. And also Michigan State Senator Patrick
Speaker 1: Kulbeck is with us. He is the original supporter of
Speaker 1: the Atlas direct care model, and we've been pushing on
Speaker 1: this program for however many years we've had you on.
Speaker 1: Dr Umber. You're like my favorite doctor that I never
Speaker 1: met except once. Um and I'm just thinking, all right.
Speaker 1: So Trump was able to find a way to use
Speaker 1: his executive authority to do what Congress wouldn't do, and
Speaker 1: that is give individuals that want to form associations the
Speaker 1: purchasing power ability to buy across state lines, not be
Speaker 1: subject to the mandates of the a c A, not
Speaker 1: subject to state mandates, and they could be doing what
Speaker 1: corporations have been doing since nineteen seventy four, which would
Speaker 1: be great for your business, great for the health care
Speaker 1: industry alone, and even great for the insurance industry because
Speaker 1: they get all these customers. Well, you said it absolutely, UM,
Speaker 1: and I find it, uh unbelievably frustrating that as soon
Speaker 1: as Trump decides to move forward and do something beneficial,
Speaker 1: that only after that are they able to come up
Speaker 1: with a bipartisan plan that then reinstates the the giant
Speaker 1: checks back to the insurance companies UM, not to help
Speaker 1: the citizens, not to help people, not to advance healthcare UM,
Speaker 1: but to reinstate UM checks back for bailouts. All right now,
Speaker 1: Michigan State Senator Patrick Kolbeck, you you're the original supporter
Speaker 1: of what Dr Josh Umber is actually doing, and that is,
Speaker 1: you know, he has his own cooperative, which is basically
Speaker 1: concierge care for anybody. It's fifty dollars a month for adults,
Speaker 1: ten dollars a month for kids. It's all the care
Speaker 1: you want. It's twenty four hour, seven three healthcare doctor availability,
Speaker 1: and everything is included in the fifty bucks a month
Speaker 1: except for maybe whatever medicine you need, but he negotiates
Speaker 1: directly with the pharmaceutical companies, so that's at a discount,
Speaker 1: and most of the care that people need on a
Speaker 1: day to day basis, well that's going to be taking care. UM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why aren't more people and more state supporting this good question.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other pressures when you get into
Speaker 1: a legislative environment from different lobbyists that don't benefit from
Speaker 1: this arrangement. Because the one ingredient that you uh that
Speaker 1: was not listed in that list of ingredients you provided
Speaker 1: was government insurance regulation and it wasn't UM and it
Speaker 1: wasn't any of the private insurers as well. It gets
Speaker 1: back to that free market principle of getting the third
Speaker 1: parties out of the equation and focusing on the relationship
Speaker 1: between the doctor and the patient. And let's just say
Speaker 1: a lot of those other entities like private insurers and
Speaker 1: the government wants to get back in between that relationship
Speaker 1: and DOC or DOCM. There's found a way to keep
Speaker 1: them out of the relationship, and we're happy to promote
Speaker 1: that here in the State of Michigan because the cost
Speaker 1: stating from that approach, I'm doing a direct primary care
Speaker 1: based Medicaid pilot here in the state of Michigan. So
Speaker 1: if we pop back up to the bigger picture where
Speaker 1: all our healthcare costs are nationally, UM, Michigan spent eighteen
Speaker 1: billion dollars on Medicaid every single year. With this direct
Speaker 1: primary care based delivery system, we could say this as
Speaker 1: the Michigan about three point six billion dollars every single
Speaker 1: year by adopting this approach and that people get better care.
Speaker 1: It's not by rationing the care. Well. I mean, this
Speaker 1: to me would be the perfect answer, you know, just
Speaker 1: like health care savings accounts. To me is another great idea.
Speaker 1: We've had people like Dr Umber on this program for years.
Speaker 1: How many times now have you been to Washington to
Speaker 1: talk about healthcare? Doctor number several times? And then I
Speaker 1: even had a senator called this morning, well just recently,
Speaker 1: former senator now working for a think tank to um
Speaker 1: take this and maybe you try to move the dial
Speaker 1: on this conversation. So it's it just continues to grow.
Speaker 1: Why why would Lamar Alexander support the idea of funding
Speaker 1: Obamacare because that's basically what he's He's he's gearing up
Speaker 1: to do with Patty Murray. I think because they honestly,
Speaker 1: they don't know. They haven't heard about direct primary care
Speaker 1: despite as much attention as it gets, you know, from
Speaker 1: being nice, I think it's hard to get good ideas
Speaker 1: into the bubble that is DC. If being more critical,
Speaker 1: I think they have perverse incentives to support the uh,
Speaker 1: the insurance companies right now, and and that's a bigger threat. UH.
Speaker 1: And everybody's waiting to see kind of how this, uh,
Speaker 1: this goes off the cliff here with the open enrollment
Speaker 1: starting next month. Yeah, it's pretty unbelievable to me. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you. All right, So explain how many other
Speaker 1: practices have you helped or at least maybe given some
Speaker 1: guidance to that are up and running around the country.
Speaker 1: We've helped over three fifty the doctors in just the
Speaker 1: last two or three years open these kind of practices.
Speaker 1: There's probably between five hundred and a thousand doing this model. UM.
Speaker 1: I know there's thousands of patients that want it, because
Speaker 1: our phones ring off the hook after every time you
Speaker 1: talk about it. UM. And then there was just a
Speaker 1: big conference put on by patient Doctors for Patient Care
Speaker 1: and Wonderful organization just last weekend Orlando over three doctors
Speaker 1: showed up to learn how to open their own direct
Speaker 1: care model. So this continues to get momentum. So in
Speaker 1: other words, you're are you actually like doing ceremony a
Speaker 1: ceremony seminars for for doctors to teach them how to
Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, well, we have all of our material
Speaker 1: online for free for doctors to you know, just download
Speaker 1: the starter kit. Would it work in a big city
Speaker 1: like say New York, Oh, absolutely, have it in urban areas.
Speaker 1: We have it in um Buena Vista, Colorado is a
Speaker 1: town and they have two doctors like this, so it
Speaker 1: can work from um the high to the low. Now,
Speaker 1: the Soviet Republic that is New York doesn't allow doctors
Speaker 1: to dispense wholeso meds or to get the discounted labs,
Speaker 1: but there's still a lot. Why why are you mocking
Speaker 1: my home state? Oh, let me count the waves now listen,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you right now, like for example, that
Speaker 1: I'll have a reduction in taxes, but when they get
Speaker 1: rid of the deduction of state and local taxes on
Speaker 1: your federal income tax, I'll have a much lower rate,
Speaker 1: but I'll be paying more money. And you know why,
Speaker 1: because I have such stupid neighbors that put in stupid
Speaker 1: politicians in New York. That's the only reason why. Yep, exactly, um,
Speaker 1: And so they're driving up the cost of care, but
Speaker 1: yet patients still respond to the rest of the value.
Speaker 1: Small businesses still need this. Like you mentioned earlier, the
Speaker 1: risks A plan that allows small businesses to shop over
Speaker 1: state lines. We've had that and the direct care model
Speaker 1: has been using that for years. Have long said we
Speaker 1: have our magic one scenario of a solution, but only
Speaker 1: for small businesses right now. So the more that Trump
Speaker 1: can do to empower and and and strengthen those Ariska
Speaker 1: type plans, the more everybody benefits. Well, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I hope you can get this done, and I hope
Speaker 1: there are more state senators and assemblymen and legislators that
Speaker 1: will follow your model. State Senator Patrick colbeck is whether
Speaker 1: it's from Michigan and Dr Number I think at some
Speaker 1: point you're gonna have to start charging me fifty bucks
Speaker 1: a month just just for the consultations we get from you.
Speaker 1: By the way, good luck in your race, Patrick, I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope you win. You have a full complete endorsement,
Speaker 1: but only if it helps you. If it hurts you,
Speaker 1: I'm against you whatever you want. That's what I tell
Speaker 1: all my friends and me on this political journey journey Sean,
Speaker 1: I was at a young engineer out in hunts Ll, Alabama,
Speaker 1: listening to you. My God, So this is my fault
Speaker 1: that you got into politics? What did I do wrong
Speaker 1: in my life? Well, it's not your fault that I
Speaker 1: lost committees recently for fighting Obamacare. But no, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate everything you've done to get some conservative swamp drainers
Speaker 1: out there, and that's exactly what we're gonna do in Michigan.
Speaker 1: We'll do me a favorite. Get to Washington, will you,
Speaker 1: because I know you can do a lot in the state,
Speaker 1: but you can do more damage in Washington. We need
Speaker 1: you in the Freedom Caucus. Hey, we've helped up a
Speaker 1: lot of states promoting this direct primary care policy at
Speaker 1: JASS with other legislators, and and if we continue on
Speaker 1: that track, I mean, if you're a governor, I like
Speaker 1: to stay to Michigan, where there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of eyeball on the next presidential election. You can shape
Speaker 1: a lot of policy discussions, and if you want to
Speaker 1: help me shape it, please go to principal solutions for
Speaker 1: Michigan dot Com and there's a lot we can do.
Speaker 1: And um, I appreciate you getting the word out because
Speaker 1: Josh is one of those selfless servants that's trying to
Speaker 1: make it better for everybody. There's no financial interests, there's
Speaker 1: for him to go off and do this. He's the
Speaker 1: first guy to pick up the phone and advise legislators,
Speaker 1: advised doctors on how to make this happen. And it's
Speaker 1: going to make a difference in a lot of people's life. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you both for being with us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Got to take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll
Speaker 1: continue one. Shaun is on number I can tell you
Speaker 1: that the number one problem in Hollywood was, and is
Speaker 1: and always will be pedophilia. That's the biggest problem for
Speaker 1: children in this industry. The casting couch even applies to children.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not in the same way. It's all done
Speaker 1: under the radar. Nobody talks about pedophilia. It's the big
Speaker 1: secret and it's widespread. Oh yeah. I was surrounded by
Speaker 1: them when I was fourteen years old, surrounded literally didn't
Speaker 1: even know it. It wasn't until I was old enough
Speaker 1: to realize what they were and what they wanted and
Speaker 1: what they were about in the types of people that
Speaker 1: were surrounding me until I went, oh my god, they
Speaker 1: were everywhere like vultures. There's one person to blame in
Speaker 1: the death of Corey Ham, and that person happens to
Speaker 1: be a Hollywood mogul, and that person needs to be exposed.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately I can't be the one to do it.
Speaker 1: But the person that knows who did it and knows
Speaker 1: who he is is watching right now. I guarantee you, yeah, intriguing.
Speaker 1: There was a circle of older men that surrounded themselves
Speaker 1: around this group of kids, and they all had either
Speaker 1: their own power or connections to great power in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. You know, there's a lot of good people
Speaker 1: in this industry, but there's also a lot of really,
Speaker 1: really sick, corrupt people in this industry. And there are
Speaker 1: people in this industry who have gotten away with it
Speaker 1: for so long that they feel they're above the law,
Speaker 1: and that's got to change. That's gotta stop. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that there are people that were the people that did
Speaker 1: this to both me and Corey that are still working.
Speaker 1: They're still out there and there's some of the richest,
Speaker 1: most powerful people in this business, and they do not
Speaker 1: want me saying what I'm saying right now. Are you
Speaker 1: saying that there pedophiles. Yes, that's what and that's what
Speaker 1: you're saying in your book when you talk to when
Speaker 1: you talk to parents here right now. There there are
Speaker 1: a lot of parents out here who want to put
Speaker 1: their kids in this in this business. Their kids are cute,
Speaker 1: they're great actors. To do that. What would you say
Speaker 1: to a parent who just has the best of intentions,
Speaker 1: who's coming here with their child. You're saying that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of predators in this industry. It's a many
Speaker 1: feathered bird. Okay, be careful what you wish for. That's
Speaker 1: what I'll tell you, you you know, don't go into it
Speaker 1: with naivety. Don't go into it thinking that it's all
Speaker 1: roses and sunglasses industry. I'm trying to say that. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to say that it's a very important, serious topic,
Speaker 1: all right. That was from an interview that was a
Speaker 1: series of interviews going back many years. That was Corey Feldman,
Speaker 1: child actor, child star, revealing even to the police that
Speaker 1: he had been molested more than two decades ago, but
Speaker 1: they did nothing to investigate the sexual predator who had
Speaker 1: systematically raped this guy and joining us to discuss news
Speaker 1: round up information overload. By the way, eight nine for one,
Speaker 1: Shawn is our toe free number. Is Dylan Howard, who
Speaker 1: is the chief content officer when he's president for am I,
Speaker 1: the parent company of the National Enquirer. He published a
Speaker 1: story for Radar Online in detailing the child sex abuse
Speaker 1: of actor Corey Feldman, and his report detailed that many
Speaker 1: many knew, as I've been saying, a lot of people
Speaker 1: knew all about this, about the attacks on children and
Speaker 1: ongoing pedophilia in the industry in Hollywood. This is on
Speaker 1: top of the casting couch scenario that we've been laying
Speaker 1: out for everybody in the in recent days. Uh, Dylan,
Speaker 1: it's good to have you back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 1: Very well? Thank you. Um. I hear all of this,
Speaker 1: and I hear Corey's interview and he's like pleading for help,
Speaker 1: and nobody paid attention. Well, not only did the industry
Speaker 1: not pay attention, Sean. In fact, police did not pay
Speaker 1: attention to what Corey Feldman had suggested that he was
Speaker 1: sexually molested along with his close friend Corey Hayne. At
Speaker 1: one particular point, as part of my ongoing investigations into
Speaker 1: this particular case, I obtained audio recorded in three while
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara Sheriff's detectives were interviewing Corey Feldman about allegations
Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson had abused boys. Now, let me say
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman said that Michael Jackson did nothing improper with him.
Speaker 1: But at this particular interview, Corey Feldman named names. He said,
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to go through those feelings
Speaker 1: and believe me the person who molested me. If this
Speaker 1: was him that did that to me, this would be
Speaker 1: a different story. This is what he told two detectives.
Speaker 1: Despite that, though, the conspiracy of silence remained, and this
Speaker 1: superstar sicko was never brought to justice and still to
Speaker 1: this very day remains working in the industry. Unbelievable, and
Speaker 1: we know who these people are and they're still doing
Speaker 1: it right. Well, that's the frightening thing. And in fact,
Speaker 1: many people have asked me on social media why I
Speaker 1: won't particularly name this individual. The reality is this particular individual,
Speaker 1: when confronted with these allegations, has threatened to sue a
Speaker 1: doomsday scenario and says that indeed he will sue regardless
Speaker 1: of whether or not the story is true or not.
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman says that he too is in the same circumstance.
Speaker 1: But the reality here is that California police can file
Speaker 1: a charge of aggravated rape one that involves either a weapon,
Speaker 1: more than one person, or seriously injures the victim at
Speaker 1: any time, with no statute of limitations. Other cases are
Speaker 1: somewhat problematic. Normal sexual assault as it's classified in California
Speaker 1: has a statute of limitations for six years, which is
Speaker 1: a roadblock that many people encountered with Bill Cosby's alleged victims.
Speaker 1: So Corey Feldman really is not in a position to
Speaker 1: come forward and name this person for fear of the
Speaker 1: legal repercussions and the fear that the legal and justice
Speaker 1: system won't stand behind him and take a hardline approach
Speaker 1: to this particular individual. You have heard about the casting
Speaker 1: couch stories as now Harvey Weinstein is. It's just the
Speaker 1: the opening of Pandora's box here. Um, I think it's
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. I think this is now
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna have revelations coming out for a long time.
Speaker 1: How long have you heard about this and known about
Speaker 1: this about No, not about Harvey Weinstein. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: the reality was that there were the whispering campaign about
Speaker 1: individuals in Hollywood has been going on for some time.
Speaker 1: That said, it's been very difficult for many to publish
Speaker 1: because of the sheer weight of the power of those
Speaker 1: in the industry and what they threatened to do. If
Speaker 1: you're about to expose them, you will remember, of course,
Speaker 1: we at the National Enquirer exposed that Charlie Sheen had
Speaker 1: contracted HIV and was continuing to have unprotected sex with people.
Speaker 1: It took three years before we were able to publish
Speaker 1: that expose a under the threat of serious litigation. So
Speaker 1: many individuals in Hollywood moguls have used their power, used
Speaker 1: their money in attempt to silence the Fourth Estate from
Speaker 1: exposing these two. Pray that antics. But what I must
Speaker 1: say is to you, Sean, is that over the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, since The New York Times published its
Speaker 1: explosive story into Harvey Weinstein, that there has been a
Speaker 1: ground swell of support to expose these types of individuals. Already,
Speaker 1: in the wake of this, we have seen that a
Speaker 1: top executive at Amazon Studios, Roy Price signed if you like,
Speaker 1: and I say resigned in inverted quotations after a supposedly incident,
Speaker 1: A supposed incident, I should say, on the Man in
Speaker 1: the High Castle, which he was a producer of for Amazon.
Speaker 1: And we're starting to see that many other people are
Speaker 1: coming forward and bravely telling their stories. In many ways,
Speaker 1: it could well be a cleansing of the Hollywood industry.
Speaker 1: But at this at this particular point, I must say
Speaker 1: it's dog eat doc. I'm talking to individuals behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: many whom are lawyering up at this point for fear
Speaker 1: that they are going to be the next target of
Speaker 1: a wide ranging investigation. They don't moguls that fear it
Speaker 1: let me. So you think that this is going to
Speaker 1: spread and spread like wildfire, no doubt, no doubt. I
Speaker 1: continue to investigate another particular story, Sean about two movie
Speaker 1: moguls who settled a case with a woman who made
Speaker 1: allegations that she was used by these moving ogals almost
Speaker 1: tantamount to a sex slave. And as part of that settlement,
Speaker 1: this woman was offered multiple roles in multiple different films
Speaker 1: in order to secure or by her silence, It's a
Speaker 1: story that I continued to investigate I have do you
Speaker 1: have documents on you ever find instances where people make
Speaker 1: false charges against famous people because they know it's a
Speaker 1: quick way to make a buck. And then people are
Speaker 1: likely to settle because the cost of litigating is too much,
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Indeed it is, and
Speaker 1: let's face it, the reality of that situation was all
Speaker 1: too common. For Brian Singer, who of course is the
Speaker 1: famous director behind the X Men franchise, who was accused
Speaker 1: as sexually assaulting an individual, and that individual later recanted
Speaker 1: his claims um and said that he wasn't that that
Speaker 1: that that Brian Singer had not assaulted him. So all
Speaker 1: too often we have seen many allegations come forward only
Speaker 1: not to materialize. But one thing I can say with certainty,
Speaker 1: the situation around Corey Feldman and Corey Haim ultimately led
Speaker 1: to the death of Corey Haim. Here's somebody who uh
Speaker 1: died of a drug overdose because his life is tormented
Speaker 1: and haunted by what happened to him as a young teenager.
Speaker 1: The reality is, yeah, all of silence needs to come down.
Speaker 1: When the whole Michael Jackson thing happened. And I know
Speaker 1: Corey said that that Michael Jackson did not molest him.
Speaker 1: But there was this tape, this interview that Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: had done prior to his case, and I want to
Speaker 1: play it for you and get your thoughts on it,
Speaker 1: because to me, it was really weird and creepy, just creepy.
Speaker 1: Listen when you see that, and then we'll get your
Speaker 1: sexual They make that sexual. It's not sexual. We're going
Speaker 1: to sleep. I tucked them in. We put I put
Speaker 1: a little music on, into a little story to I
Speaker 1: read a book. It's very sweet. Put the fireplace on,
Speaker 1: give him hot milk. You know, we have the cookies.
Speaker 1: He's very charming, very sweet. Sure, what the whole world
Speaker 1: should do? What's wrong with sharing a love? You don't
Speaker 1: sleep with your kids or some other kids? Who needs
Speaker 1: a love? Talking about hot cooco milk, music, a fire
Speaker 1: and put it sleeping with other people's children. It was
Speaker 1: the most bizarre, creepy thing in the world. I heard
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, what do you say to that?
Speaker 1: I think anybody in their right mind would suggest that. Uh,
Speaker 1: that interview explained Michael Jackson. He may not have been
Speaker 1: convicted of child molestation, but certainly his closeness to children
Speaker 1: was worrisome to so many. The allegations against Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: were stacked. Uh. He most certainly was the subject of
Speaker 1: lurid claims by many many individuals. However, he escaped justice,
Speaker 1: if you like. He avoided being convicted of any criminal
Speaker 1: activity and avoided a lot of civil litigation at the
Speaker 1: same time. But I don't think anybody if you're a
Speaker 1: young parent out there listening to this show right now,
Speaker 1: and you subjected your child to what Michael Jackson just
Speaker 1: described that he enjoyed doing, then I don't think he
Speaker 1: would be a red blooded parent, because that's frightening to
Speaker 1: think that Michael Jackson viewed that as some form of love.
Speaker 1: All right, stay right there, We'll have a few more moments,
Speaker 1: closing moments with Dylan Howard. He is the chief content
Speaker 1: Officer vice president for a m I, which is the
Speaker 1: parent company for the National Enquirer. Look, break right back,
Speaker 1: we'll continue. I can tell you that the number one
Speaker 1: problem in Hollywood was, and is and always will be pedophilia.
Speaker 1: There was a circle of older men, and they all
Speaker 1: had either their own power or connections to great power
Speaker 1: that surrounded themselves around this group of kids, and it's widespread.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was twelve years old and my publicist,
Speaker 1: he um, basically talked me into doing things that I
Speaker 1: didn't really want to do. I was hading had sex before,
Speaker 1: and he kind of convinced me that this was the
Speaker 1: right thing to do and kind of told me like,
Speaker 1: don't tell your parents, you know, and bought me a bicycle.
Speaker 1: He always kept doing things for me. He seduced me,
Speaker 1: and he started at eleven years old to twelve. We
Speaker 1: have to make people realize that children need to be
Speaker 1: safe on these sets, and they're not safe because parents
Speaker 1: want their kids to be in show business so bad
Speaker 1: that they wanted to do anything, and they'll send them
Speaker 1: off with strange people. You know, time that you just
Speaker 1: shouldn't do. When when a child was molested. For me,
Speaker 1: I can't speak for every other child, but when I
Speaker 1: was molested, it made me feel shane degradation. Uh, made
Speaker 1: me feel less than average. I mean, I spent from
Speaker 1: from twelve and thirteen years old trying to figure out
Speaker 1: whether I was homosexual. And I didn't know because because
Speaker 1: I liked the feeling, but I didn't know that that
Speaker 1: was wrong. You know. He was like, did you ever
Speaker 1: see an old man's piece before? And I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: that's kind of odd. And I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: disrespectful and just get out of the car and I
Speaker 1: told him no, I never saw an old man's piece before.
Speaker 1: And you know, we got out and you were walking.
Speaker 1: We got to a park and there was a train.
Speaker 1: He pushed me to the tree and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: show you what is and the director asked me to
Speaker 1: sit with my legs apart. The camera was positioned where
Speaker 1: it could see up my skirt to put my leg
Speaker 1: over arm of the of the chair. And before I
Speaker 1: started my dialogue, think about the character that I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be having the dialogue with and how it
Speaker 1: felt to be made love to by this person. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, this is so strange. Why would I
Speaker 1: need to do that? But this is the director he
Speaker 1: is talking, you know, this is as there's the casting directors.
Speaker 1: There must be normal, it must be normal. There's I'm
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, you know, and I'm thinking, this is
Speaker 1: obviously something that I was in a protected any of
Speaker 1: there were boundaries. And it turned out that the director
Speaker 1: who had who went on to make the film, and
Speaker 1: who I was auditioning for used to show that video
Speaker 1: late at night too interested parties at his house, a
Speaker 1: video of me touching myself with a camera. So you
Speaker 1: were so as we continue with Dylan Howard, he is
Speaker 1: the chief content Officer of vice president for a am I,
Speaker 1: the parent company National Choirer. All Right, so this is
Speaker 1: you follow a lot of these stories you hear now
Speaker 1: all of these allegations and Harvey Weinstein and others. Where
Speaker 1: do you see this going? Well? I think that the
Speaker 1: reality here is that there has been a society of
Speaker 1: fear and culture that has walked the streets of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: The demise of Harvey Weinstein signals a new change, a
Speaker 1: change that will bring honesty and truth about the industry
Speaker 1: and we'll root out the evil. And I got to
Speaker 1: tell you, Sean, I for one hope that Corey Feldman
Speaker 1: and others who were subjected to this pedophilia racket will
Speaker 1: be brave enough to come forward and name names. At
Speaker 1: this particular point, this individual that perpetuated these crimes on
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman and Corey Haim is a household name and
Speaker 1: revered by millions around the globe. He's enjoyed the success
Speaker 1: of a Hollywood career, but one that really shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been due to his depraved actions and the actions that
Speaker 1: he took against two individuals. All Right, Dylan Howard, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for being with us again. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: One of the few people I've gotten to know in
Speaker 1: the media that is actually a person of their word.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Anyway, I appreciate it. Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1: When we come back. We're nine days away from releasing
Speaker 1: the movie that I think is going to move you
Speaker 1: and your family in ways that you can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: The reaction has been amazing to Let there be light,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk to one of the stars
Speaker 1: and the writers of that movie. Coming up next. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm coming. You're drunk, Oh yeah, full of over here.
Speaker 1: The basic tenant of Christianity, whoa, whoa, whoa? Don't you
Speaker 1: dare tell me about the love and the compassion that
Speaker 1: you're so called God. What do you think it does
Speaker 1: to the voice to take the death of their brother
Speaker 1: and use it as part of your carnival act? The
Speaker 1: clinically ted in the end four minutes. It's a miracle
Speaker 1: I saw Davy. Now I want to put my hearts
Speaker 1: around them. I don't. You've got the best scientific explanation.
Speaker 1: It hasn't brought you any comfort which you consider consulting
Speaker 1: a different sources. Your God, and he's holding out his hand.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do now just take it and Jesus
Speaker 1: gets wat right. I've never exactly herd to put that way,
Speaker 1: but yeah, follow me. This shain't brains hurge. Do you
Speaker 1: believe that God hears? God always answers prayers. Sometimes we
Speaker 1: just don't understand the answers. It's better because that's what
Speaker 1: I said. I don't want to lose you. So my
Speaker 1: first question is are you guys ready for the amount
Speaker 1: of heat that will be coming your way with us?
Speaker 1: All right? That is from the movie that I am
Speaker 1: the executive producer of. It's called Let There Be Light,
Speaker 1: and it debuts in nine days and we've been playing
Speaker 1: trailers and telling you all about it, and we have
Speaker 1: a list of theaters up on my website, Hannity dot com.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's you know, in light of everything that's
Speaker 1: been going on with Harvey Weinstein, and you know the
Speaker 1: reason I got involved in this project. I think it
Speaker 1: was started about two years ago. It feels like two years.
Speaker 1: Um bringing a movie to a theater is a is
Speaker 1: a massive ordeal. Is I'm sick of Hollywood. I'm sick
Speaker 1: of their disdain and hatred for all things Christian, all
Speaker 1: things conservative. It's just a fact, you know. If it's
Speaker 1: sex and violence and it's formulaic, and it's Spiderman, Batman, Superman, Superwoman,
Speaker 1: all of the superheroes, it's it's just it's so old.
Speaker 1: Great creative movie making is just it seems like a
Speaker 1: bygone error. And movies that actually are entertaining that you
Speaker 1: can take the whole family to, that inspire you, that
Speaker 1: move your soul are few and for are between. And
Speaker 1: so I literally sat down at a table with Kevin Sorbo,
Speaker 1: who stars in the movie, with his wife Sam Sorbo,
Speaker 1: and this crazy guy that I got to know, that's
Speaker 1: a nice guy, Dan Gordon was sitting around the table.
Speaker 1: They explain the movie to me. In thirty minutes, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm in. I want to do this. I want to
Speaker 1: do something different. I like the message it. This movie
Speaker 1: will take you on an emotional roller coaster ups and downs.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to predict where it's
Speaker 1: gonna go, which I think is the perfect movie. Let's
Speaker 1: put it this way. I have now shown the movie
Speaker 1: to a number of friends and almost all of them
Speaker 1: have cried. It has touched their hearts that deeply. Um
Speaker 1: joining me now. Now we have a book version of
Speaker 1: it out. It's called Let There Be Light for Those
Speaker 1: in Darkness. I wrote the forward for the book and
Speaker 1: it is written by Dan Gordon, and uh, Dan Gordon
Speaker 1: and Sam Sorbo, they put the screenplay together. Welcome both
Speaker 1: of you to the program. So we're nine days away
Speaker 1: from my big movie debut as the executive producer, and uh,
Speaker 1: we're excited. Uh, welcome both other, both of you to
Speaker 1: the program. It took a long time to get here.
Speaker 1: It actually was very direct time by Hollywood standards. But
Speaker 1: thank you for having us go ahead. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know what was it that we first, but maybe it
Speaker 1: was a year ago. I don't even remember. It's typically
Speaker 1: it's five years from start to finish. I think Dani'll
Speaker 1: back me up on that. Is that true? Much less? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean when I did Murder in the first which
Speaker 1: was quite a while ago, it took twenty two years
Speaker 1: to get it made so um you were you guys okay,
Speaker 1: Well you surprised that because I actually had talked to
Speaker 1: Kevin once. I said, you know, I might want to
Speaker 1: get involved in one of these movies. Now I know
Speaker 1: you have. You know there are a lot of movies.
Speaker 1: For example, how many movies have you been involved in
Speaker 1: that we would recognize immediately? Dan Gordon, Uh, this will
Speaker 1: be my seventeenth Hollywood feature and probably got about three
Speaker 1: hundred hours of television. Yeah, I mean serious, serious stuff.
Speaker 1: Kevin Sorboe known, of course, best known for his role
Speaker 1: in Hercules and one of the mega breakout hits. Uh
Speaker 1: is is God's Not Dead? Um? That he did? And Sam,
Speaker 1: I mean, was it hard because you're playing you are
Speaker 1: his wife and you're playing his wife in the movie.
Speaker 1: So I thought the fight scenes seemed particularly real. They were.
Speaker 1: It seemed like it was a very natural moment for
Speaker 1: both of you. You know, we we we work out
Speaker 1: our differences on screen. It's it works really well for
Speaker 1: the marriage. It's like therapy, you know. It is interesting
Speaker 1: though we're debut in this movie Let there be Light
Speaker 1: in nine Days and again, I hope people will go
Speaker 1: see it. It's at Hannity dot Com. And and we're
Speaker 1: gonna be adding theaters, as I understand it, every week.
Speaker 1: It's not like a quintessential Hollywood roll out because it's
Speaker 1: not it's not by one of the major studios, although
Speaker 1: we do have Lionsgate as one of our partners and so,
Speaker 1: but the bottom line is is that this is a
Speaker 1: movie that is different and there is now a new
Speaker 1: business emerging because I think a lot of us are
Speaker 1: sick and tired of what Hollywood gives us. Is that
Speaker 1: a fair statement, I think absolutely. I think that people
Speaker 1: are so hungry for this type of film, and I
Speaker 1: think you see that in in people's reactions to almost
Speaker 1: every thing that's going on in the culture. And and
Speaker 1: they're really we had, none of us really had any
Speaker 1: ideas when we sat in your office how prescient this
Speaker 1: movie was. Just how much darkness was spreading across the world,
Speaker 1: and and that was one of the themes of the movie.
Speaker 1: And I think people are just not just hungry, desperate
Speaker 1: for light in their lives. And I don't mean, you know,
Speaker 1: in a little way. I mean deep, spiritual, meaningful, purposeful
Speaker 1: light and hope in their lives, and redemption and forgiveness
Speaker 1: and and something uplifting as opposed to degrading. And I
Speaker 1: think you set it up perfectly with the the example
Speaker 1: of Harvey Weinstein. Let me. Let me set the movie
Speaker 1: up a little bit without giving the movie away. The
Speaker 1: movie opens with scenes of just how chaotic and insane
Speaker 1: and dark and evil this world can be. And years
Speaker 1: ago I wrote a book, Deliver Us from Evil, and
Speaker 1: I tried to get people to understand that in the
Speaker 1: last century a hundred million human souls were slaughtered. And
Speaker 1: and it's hard, I think for good people to wrap
Speaker 1: their arms around. There is true evil. What Harvey Weinstein
Speaker 1: did was evil. When you abuse a child, it's evil.
Speaker 1: The Holocaust was evil. What happened under Stalin and Russia
Speaker 1: was evil. The killing feels evil, nine eleven evil, Radical
Speaker 1: Islam evil. That's all evil in our time. So you've
Speaker 1: got it's like a college campus setting when the movie
Speaker 1: actually opens, and Kevin Sorbo it had is an author
Speaker 1: who wrote the book Aboarding God, and he's debating a
Speaker 1: man of faith, a pastor, and the crowd loves the
Speaker 1: Kevin Sorbo and has contempt for the pastor that has values.
Speaker 1: And then we're taking on a roller coaster ride in
Speaker 1: a journey? How did how did he develop this hatred
Speaker 1: of God, this atheism? And how does he evolve as
Speaker 1: a human being? And Sam is a big part of
Speaker 1: the road for him back to redemption. And that's about
Speaker 1: as far as I'm gonna go, because then it takes
Speaker 1: you on so many twists and turns you can't believe
Speaker 1: what happens. Is that a good summary? Sam? I thought
Speaker 1: that was excellence. And I have to say, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're your pre Dan, Dan said it also your preciens
Speaker 1: in sort of jumping into this kind of project. Look,
Speaker 1: we can go to a hundred million dollar movies, but
Speaker 1: we always leave the theater a little bit um thirsty
Speaker 1: because because our real appetites, our souls appetites, aren't really
Speaker 1: sated by the blow them up, bang them up, shoot
Speaker 1: them up kind of stuff. And this is a movie
Speaker 1: that talks to your soul, that that feeds you, that
Speaker 1: uplifts you, and that gives you hope. And that's and
Speaker 1: we need hope. That's what we need when when we
Speaker 1: see bullies getting away with bullying year after year. I
Speaker 1: think the American public has shown at this point that
Speaker 1: they're fed up with that and that they want to
Speaker 1: return to values, and I'm hoping that that they show
Speaker 1: their support for this kind of movie in the theaters
Speaker 1: this fall. Well, it's the only way you're going to
Speaker 1: get more of them, let's be honest. Otherwise, you know,
Speaker 1: movies like this, And it was a leap of faith
Speaker 1: I think for all of us. I mean both of
Speaker 1: you co authored the both the book and the and
Speaker 1: the screenplay, and I'm just you know, and somebody who
Speaker 1: believed in the project. And it is my great direction.
Speaker 1: Of course, in my scene, I'm actually in the movie
Speaker 1: that I think it's going to really pop out on
Speaker 1: the screen very convincing. I don't think I could ever
Speaker 1: break cast. I'm type cast for the rest of my career.
Speaker 1: But let's just say, no one else could have done
Speaker 1: you better than you did. Well. I appreciate that. Here's
Speaker 1: what surprised me since the movie, since we got our
Speaker 1: first cut and I've shown people and I did my
Speaker 1: own focus grouping, if you will, ninety eight percent of
Speaker 1: people cried a lot, not a little, a lot, And
Speaker 1: that surprised me. Why, without giving the story away, why
Speaker 1: do you think this movie touches so deeply? I think
Speaker 1: you know, the main thing that sets us apart, not
Speaker 1: just from Hollywood films, but also quite frankly, from an
Speaker 1: awful lot of faith based film is that this shows
Speaker 1: people facing real you know. People think that people of
Speaker 1: faith don't have to face tough situations in life, and
Speaker 1: they do. They have to deal with the most horrible
Speaker 1: situations imaginable, that challenge their faith, that break their face sometime.
Speaker 1: And just because you have faith doesn't mean that you're perfect.
Speaker 1: We have a character in the in the film who's
Speaker 1: based on a dear friend of mine, Michael Francis, who
Speaker 1: Michael Francis was a mobster who found religion and Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ while he was in jail, and now he's a
Speaker 1: real life pastor and he plays the pastor in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was as mobbed up as you could
Speaker 1: possibly be. He was second generations. He was. He was
Speaker 1: a captain in the Colombo family. At one time, Forbes
Speaker 1: magazine listed him as this most successful mobster under thirty
Speaker 1: since al Capone. That's how huge he was. And he
Speaker 1: was put in the hole for three years once he
Speaker 1: went to prison, by the way, and his father and
Speaker 1: his father wanted to kill him. Yeah, his father put
Speaker 1: a hit out and he was that was that was
Speaker 1: the reason they put him in solitary, was they couldn't
Speaker 1: protect him in the art because they said, there's a
Speaker 1: contract on your life, and your father okayed it. And
Speaker 1: here's a guy who adored his father's So he went
Speaker 1: into the went into this solitary completely broken, completely and
Speaker 1: nothing left in his life. He's in a ten foot
Speaker 1: box in the dark, and one guard had compassion on
Speaker 1: him and snuck in one book to him. And that
Speaker 1: book was the Bible. And for three years all he
Speaker 1: did was read it and he made notes in it.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I've seen, you know, the Bible, and
Speaker 1: we've talked for hours about it. And that's where he's
Speaker 1: not one of these guys who said, oh I found God,
Speaker 1: give me parole. He found God in solitary. He wasn't
Speaker 1: coming before any parole hearing. And he's been out for
Speaker 1: twenty five years now, you know, and he's a real
Speaker 1: life pastor. Yeah, and he over and you know, I
Speaker 1: just want to say that the movie deals with grief,
Speaker 1: and I think that that is one of the things
Speaker 1: that really sets it apart. And it shows somebody who
Speaker 1: has no faith and how they are handling their grief.
Speaker 1: And it shows in juxtaposition somebody who who has faith
Speaker 1: a Christian woman who is handling the grief in a
Speaker 1: different way. And and so it juxtaposes those two, those
Speaker 1: two ohades, and we all will deal with dref and
Speaker 1: the question is how will we handle it? And one
Speaker 1: way gives you hope and the other way gives you
Speaker 1: nothing but a black abyss. And it's a choice, it
Speaker 1: really is. I don't know anybody in life also that
Speaker 1: that that skates through. I don't know anybody in life
Speaker 1: that doesn't have something, challenges something at some point sometime,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks, oh, if you're rich, you're you're happy. I
Speaker 1: know more miserable rich people than anything else. Being honest, well,
Speaker 1: and and and that I think that's why the movie
Speaker 1: affects people. There. You know, this movie came out of
Speaker 1: Sam's heart, It came out of my life experiences, and
Speaker 1: it came out of your courage and putting it together.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing in that in the darkest hours that
Speaker 1: the hero faces that I didn't live through. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's why people respond to it. It's not
Speaker 1: some guy who's theoretically saying oh, this might be a
Speaker 1: challenge that a person of faith faces. No, there's nothing
Speaker 1: in that movie that that I didn't go through. There's
Speaker 1: nothing he does that I didn't do. No mistake he
Speaker 1: made that I did. View thought. And you're a top
Speaker 1: rank officer in the idea. How many wars and conflicts
Speaker 1: have you been in. I've been in six horse five
Speaker 1: of them have been in the last fifteen years. And
Speaker 1: you know, I know what PTSD is real up close
Speaker 1: and prince and personal. And a lot of the humor
Speaker 1: in there that is dark humor of this poor guy,
Speaker 1: you know, being zonked out, unable to sleep because he's
Speaker 1: on pain medication and what have you, and he's just
Speaker 1: a total zombie. Um. I know exactly what that is,
Speaker 1: as does almost every soldier who's been in combat. So
Speaker 1: I think what people respond to is is the reality
Speaker 1: both of the situations that the character's faith and the
Speaker 1: reality of their faith. And I'm a big believer that
Speaker 1: if you you meet good, creative, hard working people and
Speaker 1: you leave them alone. I'm one of the things I
Speaker 1: think if I did anything, I left you guys alone
Speaker 1: to do your job. The movie business is harder than
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. And there are more meetings
Speaker 1: than I ever had in my life. I don't do meetings,
Speaker 1: so that that became a little bit of a comp location.
Speaker 1: But in the end, I'm very proud of the project
Speaker 1: and being a part of it. It opens in nine days.
Speaker 1: Theaters are listed and they're gonna be changing every week now,
Speaker 1: and we're putting it up on Hannity dot com. We'd
Speaker 1: like you to go out in the debut week, and
Speaker 1: that means we'll get like probably five theaters based on
Speaker 1: the initial success. So it's opens on the October and
Speaker 1: there's going to be a big airing out in Vegas
Speaker 1: on Friday, and then I'm gonna be at Pastor Jeffer's
Speaker 1: Church in Dallas on for both services on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be in Cleveland at Darryl Scott's Church
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. And uh, it's it's listen. I'm very excited. Listen.
Speaker 1: If people want to go to Let There Be Light
Speaker 1: movie dot com, they can see testimonial videos. We took
Speaker 1: videos of people who are exiting the theater. People are
Speaker 1: really moved by this movie. This is the movie, ladies.
Speaker 1: If you want to bring your the guy in your life,
Speaker 1: your son, your husband. This is the movie to bring
Speaker 1: them to They will thank you for it. Men love
Speaker 1: this movie even more than women, and women adore this movie.
Speaker 1: So go check out the ups. All right, thank you both.
Speaker 1: Fantastic job. Nine days, my first movie as executive producer.
Speaker 1: Let there Be Light. It's on Hannity dot com. Let
Speaker 1: there Be Light movie dot com. All right, that's gonna
Speaker 1: wrap things up for tonight. All Right, we have a
Speaker 1: big show tonight. We are gonna take on the media
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