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Glad you with us right down 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.240 our toll free telephone number, it's eight hundred nine four 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:11.920 one Sea. And if you want to be a part 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.600 of the program. What a newsday this is? Roger Goodell 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.640 basically said, oh, of course we're gonna honor the flag 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.800 as an organization, but he's not gonna do anything to 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.600 stop the players from doing what they're doing. Okay, then 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.280 the people are gonna be fed up and people are 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.760 going to continue to walk. Now it's I guess what 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.000 happened with the Cavaliers last night. They didn't kneel, but 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.840 they locked arms and and basically they're trying to do 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.360 the same thing during the anthem and they want to 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.280 send a message. I did they say what the message was? 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.560 You know, King James nothing. We didn't hear from him anything. Jason, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:51.200 did you here inequality? Okay? Um? And you know, well, 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.080 I listen. I'm just saying that if everything in the 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.840 sports world which unified everybody of all backgrounds, all races, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.200 it was a ashion. It was a distraction. It was fun, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.360 it was entertainment. Now it's become political. You're gonna get 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.480 a political result and you're gonna get a divided audience 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.920 and some of it. If this just continues, it's they're 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.280 just blowing their whole season in the NFL. Other sports 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.520 that follow I suspect are gonna see the same results 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.960 at the NFL, like seeing lower viewership. They're gonna see 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:27.160 less revenue, less money. And then at some point I 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.360 think it'll backfire and then they'll say, well, maybe we 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.880 should stand and respect those that fault blood and died 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.360 under the under the flag. All right, so we've got that. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.200 We're gonna get to that today. There is So there's 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:44.280 a congresswoman named fred Riico Wilson. She wears a cowboy 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.880 hat and so you can recognize her, and she has 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:55.000 been one of the most outspoken vitriolic critics of Donald Trump. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:01.360 So if you believe what happened, um and believe her story, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.440 and I guess friends of hers because it's actually a 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.880 sad story because anyway, you have the mother of an 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:14.639 army sergeant was killed in Niger earlier this month. Anyway, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:20.360 and on Wednesday, Democratic Representative Fredrika Wilson gave an account 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.560 of what President Trump said on the phone following her 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.440 son's death. I don't know what was said on the 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.639 phone call. But what they're saying is is that, well, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.720 he knew what he signed up for. It made it 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.839 seem as cold and callous. Maybe those words were used. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.720 Maybe it was inarticulate what the President said. Maybe if 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.520 none of us know. President says it was it was 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.640 a call to comfort the mother. And now you have 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.480 a congresswoman out there trying to say that it was 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.240 something other than that, and and it was insensitive, and 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.560 he was trying to joke, and he knew what he 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.760 signed up for. And apparently then the friend of fred 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:05.119 we the congresswoman Frederick Wilson. Now they're saying what they're 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.280 saying and that he you know, well he knew what 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.120 he signed up for. Now, there's a couple of things here. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.440 I I don't doubt anybody in a moment can be inarticulate. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.280 That's possible. I don't know what happened in the phone called. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.719 The President denies it. President says he has proof. Here's 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.479 what I do know. You would have to believe that 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:30.560 Donald Trump wanted to be mean to a woman who 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.240 lost her son, and he purposely picked up the phone 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.520 and tried to insult her and aggravate her and upset 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.440 her and make her feel bad. Now, there's so many 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.360 ways you can interpret. I mean, this is what Now, though, 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.760 if you're on the crazy left, you're gonna believe Donald 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.120 Trump is evil. He has nothing Donald Trump can do 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.040 in his life that is right in the minds of 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.440 Frederica Wilson. And I've got all the sound to prove it. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.440 So I'm suspect based on her hatred of Donald Trump. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.719 I don't know about the mother. The mother's distraught. Nobody 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.880 should be even asking the mother questions. But the media 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.120 is is just wanting to politicize this and turn this 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:16.800 into the biggest thing in the history of the country. UM, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:21.960 I can give you some details. For example, General Kelly, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.000 and I've had an occasion where I did speak once 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.640 to General Kelly, and I said to him, I'm so 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.160 sorry what happened to your son. And I read the 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.839 story that three days after his son died, General Kelly, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.799 of course the White House Chief of Staff. He said 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.839 he was given a speech. I just asked that you 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.720 not mentioned my son, because I don't want to single 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.360 him out to be any different than the fifty other 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.240 people that have fought and died in the battle in 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:51.080 Iraq and Afghanistan, which is a stunning story. Now it 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.240 has been confirmed that President Obama never made a condolence 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.680 called to General Kelly, who by the way, was working 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.839 for Obama as a relationship is a general after his 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:07.760 son was killed in Afghanistan seven years ago. And anyways, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.479 and you know, Trump said, as far as other presidents, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.560 I don't know. You can ask General Kelly, did he 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.440 get a call from Obama. I don't know what Obama's 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.480 policy was. But this is what you're gonna have to believe. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.520 You're gonna have to believe that Donald Trump purposely called 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.280 a woman in distress and took time out of his 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:31.080 day as president and purposely wanted to insult her. Or 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.120 you can take it. Now, let's just assume that the 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.360 words are correct. These guys know what they sign up for. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.479 It could also be interpreted these incredible brave men know 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.400 that there is such danger when they sign up to 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:50.280 serve their country. And I would gather and I would 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.400 guess pretty much everything I have that Donald Trump did 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.520 not want to insult the mother who lost her son 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.560 and take time out of his day just to do that. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.880 Maybe he was inarticulate. I don't know. He's a pretty 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.080 articulate guy. Maybe it was just taken the wrong way. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.480 Maybe it was just miscommunication. I don't know, but I 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.520 doubt the president of the United States of America of 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:20.520 any party, is gonna ever call a grieving mother to 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.480 put salt in a wound. And that's how the media 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.760 in this country is spinning it. And I just don't 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.720 believe it. I don't believe what you're hearing. And I 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.800 think the media lies to us all the time. And 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:39.480 I suspect if the President said anything like that, If 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.040 the President in fact said he knew what he signed 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.000 up for, I think he was probably referring to I'm 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.760 amazed at the quality of men and women in this 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:54.320 country that no, they're risking their lives for their country 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.160 and their fellow country men, and they do it anyway. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.080 There's a way to look at that and say, you 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.600 know what you're saying, that they are the best of 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.360 the best, and that they know the danger that they 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.120 will be facing, and they do it anyway, which is 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.840 the truth. So now let's go to Frederica Wilson. And 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.760 this is why I think this is a a a 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.600 cheap shot at the president. This is my gut, and 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.320 I refuse to talk about the parents except to say this, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.320 My thoughts and my prayers are with his mother and father. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.839 My thoughts and prayers are with them. I don't think 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.920 there's anything worse in life than losing a child. As 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.520 a parent, they are suffering today. I don't think the 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.679 news media ought to be calling them. I don't think 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.200 they ought to be doing interviews. They can do whatever 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.760 they want, that's up to them. But I think they 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.440 ought to be left alone. And I think they're suffering enough. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:57.040 And uh, it's sad. And if the President didn't say 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.240 it the right way, I'm sure he probably would want 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.079 to do it, you know, want to do over. There 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.080 are times, I look, there are days words can flow 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.240 from me, and then days I'm on the air and 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.080 I'm it just doesn't come out the way you wanted 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.360 to come out. And that's just the way it is 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.839 in life, And especially if you're talking every single day 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.120 to so many different people. I'm sure that the president 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.120 knew who we was calling. He knew that this was 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.280 a grieving mother. He knew that she had lost her son. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.520 So you'd have to believe he's so mean that he 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.640 did this to be the meanest human being on earth, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.040 or that he could have been in articulate, or he 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.480 was really calling with the best of intentions. And I 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.880 believe it's probably I believe it's the latter. That's what 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.480 I believe. And yet we've got all right, let's talk 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.480 about Frederica Wilson. I have proof Trump told the widow 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.960 of the fallen soldier he knew what he signed up for. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.600 I know this is the first time that you're hearing 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.640 the president's tweet read to you. So when he says 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.600 that you've totally fabricated what he said to the wife 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:04.120 of this soldier and he has proof, what's your response, Well, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.640 I don't know what kind of proof he could be 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.520 talking about. I'm not the only person that was in 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.360 the car. And uh, I have proof to this man 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.960 is a sick man. Uh, he's cohearted, and he feels 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.880 no pity or sympathy for anyone. This is a grieving widow, 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.120 a grieving widow who is six months pregnant. This is 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.560 a young woman She's only twenty four years old. She 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.640 weighs maybe a hundred and ten pounds, and she has 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.800 two other kids, two years old and six years old. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.800 And when she actually hung up the phone, she looked 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.439 at me and said, he didn't even know his name. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.480 So now that's the worst part. So Consina, let's talk 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.400 about that. What did you hear tell us about this phone? 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.840 All right, let's let's go on. Now, let's take a 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.200 look at the past of Frederica Wilson. And when she 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.280 said Donald Trump is on the brink of impeachment, so 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.240 she doesn't realize that he is on the brink of 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.280 impeachment and people will begin to call for him to 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:06.280 be impeached and the Republicans will have to join in 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.720 because they need to be on the right side of history. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.480 That was May of this year. She's not a Trump fan. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.680 She's also somebody that has a history of rushing to judgment, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.920 like in the Trayvon Martin case. Mr Speaker, this is 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:27.920 Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin's murderer is still at large. It's 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:32.840 been one month, thirty days with no arrest. I want 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.720 America to see this sweet young boy who was hunted 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:42.800 down like a dog, shot in the street, and his 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.120 killer is still at large. We went through a case. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.640 There was an eye witness in the case that put 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.959 trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, grounding and pounding 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.760 his head into pavement, and it was George Zimmerman's scream 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.439 and a jury found him not guilty. She rushed to judgment. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.040 The real enemy, she says, is the Tea Party. She 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:13.040 said this in August while we discussed real concerns. Real 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:20.680 enemy is and the real enemy is the T So 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:25.320 she's got a political agenda and she changed her story slightly. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.400 There was a story saying that, well hang on us. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.680 At first she was talking about the death of US 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:36.040 soldiers in Niger could be trump'spen Ghazi. Here's what she said, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.040 do you is it your impression from what you've heard 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.559 from the Pentagon or just in Congress that on this mission, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.679 did these soldiers have the necessary cover From the mission 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.360 they were on. It doesn't seem as if they had 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:55.760 sufficient cover. It doesn't seem they had sufficient vehicles, the 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:00.600 appropriate armored cars. It feels it is as if they 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.440 were outnumbered. It seems as if he was missing for 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:09.679 twenty four hours, but his transmitter was still beeping, and 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.680 it seems as if they could have found him. This 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.520 might wind up to be Mr Trump's been ghazi. So 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:21.800 he needs to investigate this very very closely, because I 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.840 will be making sure that Congress does that. She also 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.800 claimed two different versions of this story here in the 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.880 conversation with his mother. One story said her driver was 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.840 with her, but in another story, she said her press 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.960 secretary was with her. Issue changes a story slightly had 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:44.040 him say, uh, well, you know this is what he 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.439 signed I'm sure he knows that this is what he 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.600 signed up for, but it still hurts. And the fattest 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.840 part of this he kept referring to the David as 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.360 your guy. I'm not the only person who had the 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:10.079 conversation in the A d uh, my driver, some gentlemens 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:15.560 from the army and the driver of them. And then 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.480 she says it's a press secretary. She's after Puerto Rico. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.360 She said that the president was throwing paper towels at 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.160 the crowd, saying it was terrible and abominable. She went 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.520 on to say, uh, we have the Trayvon hunted down 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.000 like a rabid dog and shot in the street and 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.440 racially profiled. 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You know, when my son 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.600 was killed, he was killed in the are just loss 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.520 of life in the history of naval special warfare. And 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.919 we had thirty family, thirty families at Dover Air Base 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.679 waiting for our sons to be our son's bodies to 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.480 be returned from Afghanistan. And you know what we experienced 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.919 there was And I'm not just trying to I'm just 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.840 trying to draw a contrast. I'm not trying to bring 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.080 up old news. But you know what we experienced there is. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.679 The families unanimously asked Barack Obama to not bring any media, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.040 to not make this a media event, that he was 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.000 welcome to be with us, but no media. And you know, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.360 he showed up with cameras and the next day our 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.840 pictures are His picture saluting the caskets of our boys 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.240 was plastered over every every outlet in America, I guess. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.840 And you know, I'm just saying, you know, if you're gonna, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.360 if you're gonna just be outraged that one person says 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.199 something that that could be construed as a flippant remark 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.520 without a lot of thought put behind it. You know 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.760 what about the outrage over the things people do? All right? 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.879 That was the Karen Vaughan, she's the mother of former 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.600 Navy seal air In Vaughan. She wrote a book it's 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.760 called World Changed, Her Mother's Story. I can't think anything 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.639 worse than losing your son. And anyway, Aaron was one 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.440 of thirty American servicemen who died on board a helicopter. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.240 The helicopter was called Extortion seven Team when it was 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:19.199 shot down in Afghanistan. That happened back in August, and 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.119 many who were killed were members of Sealed Team six, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.320 the largest loss of military life in a single day 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.280 when the War on Terror began. What you had heard 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.199 there was Karen Vaughan explaining that, yeah, the president and 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.639 they were invited to come. They could come, but they 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.480 were specifically told not to bring cameras. And Karen Vaughan 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.280 joins us, Now you all the families that agreed they 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.280 didn't want cameras there when the bodies came. That's correct 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.440 or wrong that that's what we were told, sewn absolutely 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.120 what we were told and promised. Now, did you ever 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.399 get a call from President Obama? No, for crying out loud, no, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.480 we sure didn't. You know, got an invitation to the 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.479 White House. We've been invited to the White House by 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.800 Donald Trump. I mean, the difference, the contrast is startling. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.280 But no, never a call from President Obama. Well, we're 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.360 getting more information by the hour. I'm sure that you've 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:12.080 heard of this congresswoman Fredrika Wilson, and she's making all 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.439 these horrible charges. Well, he knew what he signed up 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.879 for anyway. And I don't believe this congresswoman because this 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.320 is the same person that has called the president a racist. Uh. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.480 This is the person that said if Donald Trump was 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.879 a student at a school I served as principal and 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.760 behaved so crudely, he'd be expelled. She said, President Trump 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.280 just waived the white flag, and he's you know, so 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.400 many of them. I refused to stand by and let 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.280 Trump succeed in his assault on working families. A president 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.200 Trump has nothing to hide. He should do this and 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.280 that he's on the verge of impeachment, and it goes 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.199 on and on from there, and she has insulted him 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.640 the entire time she's president. And now we know that 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.160 General John Kelly was in the room, that several other 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.000 people were in the room when the President was having 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.440 the conversation with this poor mother, who my thought, heart 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.520 and prayers go out to. And everybody in the media 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.400 is running wild because a woman that hates the president 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.000 is spreading this story like wildfire, and nobody seems to 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.720 want to hear the fact that there are witnesses that 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.960 are heard from the President's side, several people in the room, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:25.400 including John Kelly, and that nobody heard what Congresswoman Frederica 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.720 Wilson said. And I just wanted to call you and 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.080 get your thoughts on it. You know what I can 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.359 tell you from my experience with this president that he 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.080 is is compassionate towards families of the fallen. Is any 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.600 human I've been around in the past six years since 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.840 Aaron left this earth, he has been unbelievably gracious to 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.399 the gold Star community. Shawn opened up an entire wing 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.240 of the White House. I think it's happened more than once. 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.679 I've been invited once, my daughter in law was invited, 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.119 My grandchildren were invited by grandchildren literally got to play 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.280 in the White House theater. I mean, he basically told 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.680 everybody that we spoke to that night said that, He said, 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.159 this is their house tonight. They have free access to 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.240 every single thing in They're in here, and we ditch on. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.359 That's the reverence and respect that Donald Trump has for 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.679 the gold Star community. I just find this astounding that 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.000 somebody is twisting his words like this to to manufacture 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.400 a problem out of out of a president who has 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.760 enough respect and love and passion and come passion for 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.359 fallen heroes to make a phone call to a family 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.840 member to tell them how sorry he isn't And you 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:32.920 know what, Sean, The thing is is, I don't even 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.600 care if you said what he said. Do you know 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.280 President George W. Bush said those very same words to 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.240 Billy and I when we met with him last fall, 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.880 and we weren't offended by those words at all. Those 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.879 were even if you said those words, I'm not I 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.120 don't know what was said. But even if he said 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.200 those words, that he knew what he was getting into. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.399 But it's still very tragic. Those words have spoken to 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.760 us full sentence. All all the media is reporting is that, well, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.480 he knew what he signed up for, but the sentence 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:01.160 goes on. But the sentence, who goes on? But when 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.960 it happens, they know the risk that but when it happens, 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:10.560 it hurts. That doesn't sound offensive to me. I've had 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.520 admiral say that phrase to me. I've had another president 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.480 say that phraise to me. I've had dozens of people 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.359 in leadership make that phrase to me. Sean, that is 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.880 just a common thing that people say. We all agree 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.879 that our sons are war fighters. They were heroes, they 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.920 were warriors, and they did what they were that, they 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.600 did what they loved doing, and Aaron died doing what 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.879 he loved doing. So for anyone to say that to me, 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.919 it's not offensive at all. And like you said, the 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.359 end of that sentence is that but it's never easy 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.000 or something to that effect. And we all understand that 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.679 Donald Trump is no father, he's a husband, he's a 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:49.680 good man, and this is a ludicrous issue being dragging 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.000 his name through the mud over something. This woman has 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.800