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Speaker 1: John Schmelt, Tony Pauline from sports Keta with You is

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Speaker 1: always win of A guest for today's show, Rick Saraatella

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Speaker 1: from NFL Draft Bible All Access Football. Rick is great

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Speaker 1: on the small school guys. So this is a very

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Speaker 1: tenuous time in the National Football League, folks. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot changing we're recording this. I'm gonna just level set

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Speaker 1: for everybody. It is eleven oh seven am on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks could go who knows where in the next half

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Speaker 1: an hour when we're recording this for forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to do something that was gonna be

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Speaker 1: unaffected by free agency. We like to do a small

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Speaker 1: school prospect show every year, so we decided to do

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Speaker 1: that now because what we talk about today is gonna

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Speaker 1: be impacted zero by free agency. And Rick is great.

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Speaker 1: He scouts, He's got up for the CFL, so he

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Speaker 1: goes all these small school guys. Tony, of course is

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Speaker 1: great on as well. And Tony's curated a list here

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Speaker 1: of small school prospect as he's interested in, and I

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Speaker 1: love to get him and Rick going back and forth

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys Vias. Frankly, I don't know

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Speaker 1: because they were at the combine and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm here to learn. Hopefully you guys could learn

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Speaker 1: as well. Tony, why don't you lead us off? My friend?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the interesting thing is of all the

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Speaker 2: small school guys, only seven were invited to the combine,

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Speaker 2: and there were some surprising notables who were left off

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Speaker 2: Elijah Ponder, cal Poly, Carter Runyon, who we saw at

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Speaker 2: the quarterback from North Dakota State, Camden Miller. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these guys were, in my opinion, really deserving of combine

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Speaker 1: Rick, were you surprised by that too?

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Speaker 3: You know, yes and no. I think that the small

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Speaker 3: school bias label has grown now with the NIL the

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Speaker 3: transfer portal, it's almost gone complete opposite where you're almost

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Speaker 3: saying that, well, why didn't he transfer up, Why didn't

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Speaker 3: he move up? Why didn't he take the NIL money?

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Speaker 3: Like what's going on there? But you know, unfortunately, finding

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Speaker 3: and digging in the crates and Tony throughout some good names.

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Speaker 3: I think the one player that stands out from that

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Speaker 3: down at the East West Shrine Bowl, he outplayed Kyle

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Speaker 1: Hi, Tony, why don't we start rolling through? It's funny

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Speaker 1: Tony, Well, let's go through it. The first three guys

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Speaker 2: there's some believe that Gray's Abel could slide into the

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen, but that opinion

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Speaker 1: About that way real quick. I don't mean they dropped you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Jackson Slater, I mean a guy an

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He was one of those guys at the Senior

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Speaker 3: But I mean, this guy's tenacious. I mean he's as

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Speaker 3: And you know that Charles Grant brings it. I'll give

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Speaker 3: So he's one of those Day three undrafted free agent types.

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Speaker 1: I think I like it. And then another guy at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, Tony that it'll jumped out to both

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Speaker 1: of us, mostly because like he lined up in these

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Speaker 1: of these guys doesn't belong And it's David Walker. Because

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Speaker 1: he's six to one, he's kind of squatty. He looks

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's not even six to one. I was kind

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Speaker 2: But I mean, Walker is a great story. He enters

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Speaker 1: Two other defensive players, Tony, that that you have here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the Villanova kid. I had a chance

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe have some starter caliber traits. Like Villanova

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Speaker 3: the cal poly player. I think when you talk about

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, I'm gonna pair or I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: Well, Carter Running is a former receiver who moved to

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Speaker 1: Another guy who was two hundred and thirty three pounds, right,

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Speaker 2: The creative wall carrier makes defenders miss improvisers when plays

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Speaker 1: Which one of those guys jump back to you right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I couldn't help but to think of

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Speaker 3: You know, I agree with the Alabama A and M.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I liked Carter Runyon down there. I

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Speaker 1: He was like the next guy on Tony's list, An, Tony,

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Speaker 2: Chishom was a guy I wrote about September Sports skeid.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you watch the film Munches them. No one

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Speaker 2: he catches everything. His production was off the charts in

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Speaker 2: Has that ability, so I will see how he runs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was estimated to run into four sixes.

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Speaker 2: f than that. But a real fun guy to watch,

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00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be a place for Chisholm at the

432
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 2: next level. I agree with Rick other receivers on there.

433
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 2: Montana's got another smaller receiver, Junior Bergen, who's sort of

434
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 2: like Chisholm in the sense that he's a little bit smaller.

435
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 2: He's not super fast, but it's a great route runner.

436
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: He's got returned potential as a as a punt returner

437
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: and he catches everything in sight. And then Sacramento actually

438
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: has a pair of pass catchers to keep an eye on,

439
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 2: Jared Gibson, who is a well built guy, more of

440
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: a possession type receiver. And Anderson Grover transferred from Washington State,

441
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: who's a little bit taller. I'm tall. I talked to

442
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Slater about these two guys, and he said, if

443
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: there's a receiver you want on your team who's gonna

444
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: be help you in a locker room, he's gonna produce

445
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: for you on the field, it's gonna be Anderson Grover.

446
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 2: But again, all of these guys unlikely it's gonna be drafted,

447
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: but keep an eye on them if your team signs

448
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 2: them as PFA's once the draft is over.

449
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: Right, I'm definitely gonna have to earn their keep on

450
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 3: special teams right as a maybe kick returner, and then

451
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: worked their way into rotation. That's how you think got

452
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: to get in in the back end of those you know,

453
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: wide receiver four, wide receiver five spots.

454
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on those wide receivers, Rick or anyone else

455
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position that that you liked that maybe, yeah, No.

456
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: I think the Montana kid has some burst and explosiveness, acceleration.

457
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: I think he can make an impact in the return game.

458
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: You know, he's probably the other one that stands out

459
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 3: to chisholm uh. But yeah, good, good, good call there.

460
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's an interesting group and Tony, I'm

461
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: trying to remember. I'm going back at the looking at

462
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 1: the rosters. Wasn't there another I thought it was Sacramento

463
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: State wide receiver that was a converted quarterback or was

464
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: it San Jose State. I'm thinking of Nick Nash at

465
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: the Shrine Bowl. He was there, and I believe he

466
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: also ran at the combat I'm not mistaken too converted quarterback.

467
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: I think he ran in the four or fives at

468
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: the comb I rig you're you're not in your head

469
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. I enjoyed talk. I talked to him

470
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: about five or six minutes that the Shrine Bowl. Really

471
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: nice smart kid.

472
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he led the nation and receiving right,

473
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: So I gotta like that. You know, acrobatic guy, tall target,

474
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: good body balance, works the sideline well. I think he

475
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 3: has a nose for the end zone and just makes plays.

476
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: So you got to like that about him. I think

477
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 3: you know you mentioned that the time speed is going

478
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: to probably come into question. He's right on the fringe

479
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: of that Day three priority free agent.

480
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, introduction was off the charts this year. I off

481
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: the charge. He doubled almost every category from twenty twenty three,

482
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: so he really stepped up. Didn't play in the in

483
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: the team's bowl game, which I thought was a bit

484
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: of a mistake. Would have been a nice way to

485
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: cap off his career. But he's you know, he is

486
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: your excuse me, your late round possession type receiver. He's

487
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: not a speechter. He's not gonna be anybody in the

488
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: foot race, but he's gonna run discipline rounds. He's gonna

489
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: find the open spot in the defense, and you know

490
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: when you throw the ball to him, he's going to

491
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: catch it. Yeah.

492
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: You almost see him being next quarterback right knowing where

493
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: to find the holes in the zone and be in

494
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: a smart wide receiver. He blocks a little bit too,

495
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with you. I think he's I

496
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: think will be a fun Day three pick. All right, Tony,

497
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure I don't miss anybody here.

498
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: Southern arc and saw is Melvin Smith cornerback. What do

499
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: you like about him.

500
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw him at the Shrine Ball. He

501
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: was a guy who came in the season with a

502
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: lot of hype. He's a measurables guy. Five to ten,

503
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety pounds, runs four four to three.

504
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: Needs a lot of work on his ball skills, needs

505
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: to polish his game. Didn't get a Combine invite. You know,

506
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: if he runs well during Pro Day, what happens is

507
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: in the later rounds, teams start to trend towards those

508
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: size speed guys. So when you get a cornerback that's

509
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: five ten, one hundred and ninety pounds, he runs in

510
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: the fourth force. He had a high preseason grade. He

511
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: was okay at the Shrine Ball. Really didn't blow and

512
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: stand out like some of the other DBAs. Did you

513
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: know a guy likes Smith who also has a productive

514
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: background as a kick returner. That's a guy who could

515
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: be a surprise pick as the draft is closing out

516
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: in the late seventh rounds.

517
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: Rick thoughts on him or any other defensive backs, then

518
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: you might like that we haven't touched on yet.

519
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely, he definitely looked the part I agree

520
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: with Tony. I don't know if you play the part

521
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: throughout the week. So he's a guy that you got

522
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: to go back circle the film on. But you know,

523
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: at the end of the draft, you want to bet

524
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: on guys with trades. You want to bet on guys

525
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: with upside. You know, in terms of smaller school guys

526
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: at the UH at that position, I.

527
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: Wonder safety or linebacker, even anyone on that second level

528
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: defense that you might like.

529
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if he's a small

530
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: school guy per se. He came from the small school ranks.

531
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: It might have been Sacramento State the school slipping my mind,

532
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: but today Buchanan at a cow the linebacker. This guy

533
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: is really I think one of the more underrated players

534
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: in this year is draft. And maybe because he only

535
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: has one year of FBS experience, but I think this

536
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: is a linebacker that can play any linebacker spot. He

537
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: can line up on the edge and be used as

538
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: an occasional pass rusher. They dropped them into coverage, they

539
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: moved them all around. So Tedday is a guy who

540
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: caught my attention.

541
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, Tony, I'm looking at your list here there's

542
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: another Sacramento State guy. Did was Sacramento State? Like the

543
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: best team in the country and I missed this somehow.

544
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: This year they're they're littered with sacrament those state players here.

545
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was best the running back Elijah tal Tolliver.

546
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Actually he's in next year's draft. I didn't take the

547
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six guys that I apologize, but he is.

548
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: He is a nice size between the tackles, downhill ball

549
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: carrier and no Sacramento stated. I mean, Rick could probably

550
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: talk to this better than I can. I know they

551
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: had they had gone through the quarterfinals in the semifinals,

552
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: I believe in twenty twenty three, but last year I

553
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: don't even think that they were in the FCS tournament.

554
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yeah?

555
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: I think they were one of these teams that have

556
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 3: been up and down, up and down. You know, we

557
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: had a guy at the NFL PA Bawl for like

558
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: a couple of years in a row, then they fell

559
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: off the map, then they came back around again. But

560
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of talent out there in California.

561
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 3: So when when you're one of these small schools and

562
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: you know, they got some Juco springboards out there in

563
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: Cali that these guys bounce around to, and you know,

564
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: I am looking at a list He's not He's not

565
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: necessarily a small school guy, but I think the listening

566
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: audience should be aware about him because he is kind

567
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: of in our backyard at Temple. Had a chance to

568
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: see Dewan Black up close in the person right, and

569
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: that was back in August. He was suspended. Now at

570
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, had some academic stuff going on,

571
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: but he brings a big time pedigree, a transfer from Florida.

572
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: This guy, I mean, he is explosive, he's physical, he's cut.

573
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: He I think he's going to test well at this

574
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: Temple Pro Day. And if you're looking for a guy

575
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: on Day three or even undrafted free agent with the

576
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: off the field stuff that might be able to come in.

577
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: And we talk about a situational pass rusher down there

578
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: in Temple, Dwan Black and I do believe they got

579
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: the best kicker in this year's draft. Starts with a T.

580
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: He was at one of these All Star games, Max Trulio,

581
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: something to that effect. I mean, the kid has got

582
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: a boot and he hit one from seventy split the uprights.

583
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: Now Jim Shortz and T shirt and no defense, but

584
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: the kid hitted no problems seventy Maddox Trihilio I believe

585
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: is the name.

586
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dewan Black is a David Walker type undersize, but

587
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: he's probably more athletic and more explosive than David Walker.

588
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: Talking about FCS teams at the top of the game,

589
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: got to mention Marcus ware Reguard from Montana State, who

590
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: was at the Shrine Bowl, wrote about him a couple

591
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: of times. Big, tough, small area blocker, fundamentally sound, had

592
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: some moments at the Shrine Bowl where he just really

593
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: stood out. Came into the season as a potential late

594
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: round choice. I don't think he's going to get drafted,

595
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: but again, I mean an offensive lineman that's not going

596
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: to cost a lot of money, has the ability to

597
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: make a either a power gaps blocking scheme or his

598
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: own blocking scheme. He's got that versatility, and he's got

599
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: a real good resume behind him at State.

600
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: And he's not He's not the only offensive lineman, Tony.

601
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: You have Evan Bernstein at the South Dakota which you

602
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: know North Dakota, South Dakota State just you know breed

603
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. It's unbelievable.

604
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: Well in South Dakota State had the kid that's starting

605
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers that they took in the in

606
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: the in the fourth front, who was all sort of

607
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 2: shrine Go Shriane Ball. And Bernstein is sort of that

608
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: six three, three hundred pounds, you know pound your type

609
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: of offensive lineman that just moves people for the running game.

610
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: He's not bad in the blocking game, sort of stuck

611
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: in the middle. He's got zone blocking size, but he's

612
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: a power gap scheme, a power gap type of player,

613
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: a style. But that's what McCormick was. And then look

614
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: how well he's doing with the Steelers.

615
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Rig your thoughts on those guys? Are any other offensive lineman?

616
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: And I say, small school. Let's be honest. Anything that's

617
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: not like the power for now is kind of like

618
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: a sport, right with the way the world works out.

619
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know you get a lot of guys

620
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: that that jumped down your throat if you say, like

621
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina, who's really a mid major. But let's talk

622
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: about the center there. What's his name, Lampkin? Is it

623
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: Willie Lampkin? I mean yeah, five ten, five eleven eighty

624
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: inch wingspan. I mean, this guy is just cut from

625
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: a different Cloth. I don't know, you know, if he's

626
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: gonna last in the NFL, But I can tell you this,

627
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: he was a freaking wall at the Senior Bowl. I mean,

628
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: this guy just shed the block defenders like no problem,

629
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: and you know he probably comes up to my chest.

630
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: But I don't know, like the align a guy like

631
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: that up in the in the full back role? Do

632
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: you play him at center? Can can a five ft

633
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: ten center last in the NFL? I think he's the

634
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: ultimate case study in the year's NFL draft.

635
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree he Yeah, you watched him when

636
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: they got into the huddle and everyone else is six

637
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: four six', five and then you see this shoes expression

638
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: midget in the huddle that would Be, lampkin and then

639
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: he goes out on the next rep and he just manhandled,

640
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: Everybody Dion walker all those other. Times you, know no

641
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: one From. Mississippi he handled. Them and it's you, know

642
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: you got to give him a. Chance you've got to

643
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: give a chance to prove that he can't play On.

644
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: Sunday because he was so good at The Senior bowl

645
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: and handled so much. TALENT i wanted to write about,

646
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: him But i'm, like but the guy's five ten and

647
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: so MAYBE i fell on that mindset as, well but

648
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: he deserves a chance to, play no doubt about.

649
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: It well one more, point one more point About lampkin

650
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: Is i'll say this because you, know not everybody might

651
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: be in, tune who's listening in the avid football fan

652
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: might not be aware of how the combine process. Works

653
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: it's a voting scale and each team has a. Vote

654
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: and you, know the fact that he wasn't invited to

655
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: the combine tells me there's a lot of you, know

656
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: there's more questions than, answers or more teams that are

657
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: wary than willing to believe in A Willie. Lampkin and

658
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: THOUGH i thought it was a travesty quite, honestly because

659
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: those are the guys you need to have under the

660
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: microscope In indianapolis to figure out is he real or

661
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: is he? Mirage SO i thought it was disappointing that

662
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: he wasn't at the. Combine that's gonna be one of

663
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: the pro days THAT i have circled on the. Calendar

664
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: or or.

665
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's just that the guys don't go past

666
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: the grades they see in front of them and do

667
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: a little research on their. Own and Since Willy lampkin

668
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: really wasn't grated before the. Season they're not doing the

669
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: research and that's Why Willie lampkin didn't get the votes

670
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: needed to go to the. Combine that's what's one of

671
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: my pet peeves about the whole.

672
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: PROCESS i think to some teams like to try to

673
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: keep these guys. Secret they might think that only they

674
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: know About Willie lampkin and no one else. Does they

675
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: don't want to everybody knew about.

676
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: It to see you, ball you couldn't miss, them so.

677
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: True all, Right i'm going to open up the floor

678
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: to both of.

679
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: You.

680
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Guys, tony i'm'na let you go. First you need to

681
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: go to the small. School, guy you can. Go you,

682
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: know guys that you hear either rising or falling anything

683
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: you're hearing about the, draft the floor is. Yours and

684
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: then start thinking because you're up.

685
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Next, WELL i MEAN i already mentioned Grades abel and

686
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: you guys confirmed it about you, Know rick said he's

687
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: the top twenty five. Guy you're talking other people saying

688
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: he's the top twenty. Guy Gray zables got a lot

689
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: of momentum going and he deserves. It and it's not

690
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: just A Senior, bowl not just a combine where he

691
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: was actually outperformed by other. People but you go back

692
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: and you watch the. SEASON i encourage people if you

693
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: can watch that first game Against colorado because he In.

694
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: Colorado they don't have a great, defense but they do

695
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: have some speedy edge rushers And zabel shut them. DOWN

696
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 2: i think the big question is Watch Charles. GRANT i

697
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: believe his pro day is the end Of. March for some,

698
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: Reason march twenty sixth sticks out in my. Mind it's a,

699
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: huge huge day For Charles, grant who was invited to

700
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: The Senior, bowl couldn't, perform didn't perform at the. Combine

701
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: And Charles grant was the guy who came into the

702
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: season great as A day two pick by, scouts so

703
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: a lot was expected of. Him and it wasn't a major.

704
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Injury it was a strained, meniscus is what he told.

705
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: Me so it's a real huge. Day and, again one

706
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: guy we didn't talk about Was Alan larrason OF Uc,

707
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: davis another terrific third down, back entered the season with

708
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: fifth round grades from. SCOUTS i know he was injured last.

709
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: YEAR i believe he's originally on The Senior bowl roster

710
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: and then maybe he had to pull back because of an.

711
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: Injury But alarison goes five ten and a half two

712
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: hundred and nine, pounds runs in the four or. FIVES

713
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: A Marcus yarns type in the sense that he's good

714
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: running the ball on the. Inside he has enough agility

715
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: to turn the. Corner he's an exceptional pass catcher out

716
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: of the. Backfield you, KNOW i still have a draftable

717
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: grade on. HIM i have a seventh round. Grade he

718
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: may fall out of the, draft but if he, does

719
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: he could be a, major a major steel as a

720
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: priority free agent signing.

721
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Reak the floor is. Yours anything you want to?

722
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: Hit, YEAH i got a couple guys worth throwing. Out you,

723
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: Know i'll be At Rutgers Pro day. Tomorrow And Keyante

724
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: hamilton was a guy who caught my eigeh attention in

725
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: The All Star trails at The Hula bowl first and

726
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: then getting the call up at The East West Shrine.

727
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: Bowl now he's got you, know talk about short. Arms

728
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: he's an interior, defender so he can cover them up

729
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: a little. Bit but the way he stacks and shed

730
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: and can. Stuff deron hung out about six or seven

731
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: years In, rutgers so he's got some experience to. HIM

732
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: i think there's some bloodlines in the family, there And

733
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: i'm looking forward to his pro day, tomorrow so we'll.

734
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: See they also have a, Linebacker Tyrene, powell who got

735
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: The Singer bowl invite, right AND i think he had

736
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: an injury, there so we'll see how much he can

737
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: or can't. Do BUT i, mean every Year i'm going To,

738
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: rutgers it's like the first name they bring up His.

739
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: Powell he's a team. Leader he's apparently gonna test very very.

740
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: Well we'll see if he's. Healthy i'd love to see

741
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 3: him compete and. Perform you, know not a small school,

742
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: guy but a guy that's you, know been out of,

743
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: sight out of. MIND i think he's worth noting Because

744
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: Jacory krosky, merit you, KNOW i don't THINK i don't

745
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: think there's enough scouts in the league that are going

746
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: to be confident enough willing to put their reputation on

747
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: the line for this. Kid he TRANSFERRED i think it

748
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: was From. Nevada one of the other, Schools, Arizona. Arizona

749
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: he winded up At arizona and he played the first,

750
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: game and then they found out that there was some

751
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: kind of eligibility issue WHERE uh they didn't really know the,

752
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: rules so he just sat out the whole. Year he

753
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 3: didn't PLAY, uh and he looked pretty good that first.

754
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: Game now he goes TO uh The Hula ball and

755
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 3: he was maybe the top talent down there In. Orlando

756
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: AND i do respect The East West Shrine bowl for

757
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: sending scouts to The Hulla bawl and scouting those players

758
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 3: so they got the call up to The Shrine. Bowl

759
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: he wins THE mvp of the. GAME i, mean this

760
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: guy has breakaway. Speed he's showing the ability to catch

761
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: out of the, Backfield he's got. ACCELERATION i slapped the

762
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: fourth round grade on this. Kid i've got a mid

763
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: round grade On jacory Krossky.

764
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Merrit he's actually started At Alabama state BECAUSE i knew

765
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: he was AN hb looked up real quick when you

766
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: mentioned it ice In. Arizona you're, right but he Started

767
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: Alabama state at H H hbcu.

768
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: Kid, YEAH i knew it was one of those smaller,

769
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 3: schools and you, know again they just had some issues

770
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: there with the. Eligibility you, know, Listen Drew, KENDALL i

771
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: think just because he doesn't get the shine he. Deserves

772
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: he's my number one. Center. GUYS i don't know how

773
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: you guys feel about. Him From Boston. College you can

774
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: tell he's the son of A Pete kendall hit the,

775
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: fundamental the, technique the lateral. Movement this guy is really damn.

776
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: GOOD i think he's going to be a starter in

777
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: THE nfl and you might be able to get him

778
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: in the third round At Drew. Kendall so just a

779
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: guy that caught my. Attention and, again like a COUPLE sec,

780
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: guys you might laugh and, say like how do they

781
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: fall under the? Radar, again The East West shrine did

782
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: a heck of a. Job This Johnny walker junior From,

783
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: missouri AND i think he led THE sec in. Sacks it's,

784
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: like it's hard to believe this guy wasn't invited to the.

785
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: COMBINE i think he's A day three pick that that

786
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: can bring something off the. Edge and the other guy

787
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 3: In mobile that didn't get the combine. Invite and again

788
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: and like how does a guy From georgia stay hit?

789
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: Him but like you go Watch Dan, Jackson like he

790
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: was a guy In mobile who was so physical jamming.

791
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: DEFENDERS i thought he held his own in. COVERAGE i

792
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: went back and watched the film On Dan. Jackson this

793
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: guy is as tenacious. SAFETY i don't, know, like what

794
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: are the questions Surrounding Dan jackson that he didn't get

795
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: a combine, in but he looks like the real. Deal

796
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: so a couple guys just from The All star scouting.

797
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: Trails you, KNOW i had a chance to talk to

798
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: a former giant In Roman. Obin his son was down.

799
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: There Rj, oben who started off At duke finished At Notre.

800
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: DAME i thought he was used a little bit out

801
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: of position, there but again you go back and, watch

802
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: like he needs to learn how to. Finish but if you're,

803
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: talking if you want to bet on a guy with,

804
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: upside who HAS nfl, bloodlines who has a pass rush,

805
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: repertoire now like he's got a, rip he's got a.

806
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 3: Dip you see him do the spin move like Rj

807
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 3: oben is a guy THAT i think people forget about

808
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: because he was out of, position but like At duke

809
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: as a double digit sack master kind of. Guy so,

810
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: again you, know not guys that are necessarily small school

811
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: or mid, majors but just some guys THAT i want

812
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: to shine a little love.

813
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: On, NO i like.

814
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: IT i lot A Pea. Kendall Pe kendell was my

815
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: number one center coming into the. Season Pe kendall initially

816
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: entered the transfer portal and then he entered the. Draft

817
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: so by the time he decided to enter the, DRAFT

818
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: i was already through my acc film where he's one

819
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: of those GUYS i got to come back around and watch.

820
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: AGAIN i could see him being the first center. Drafted

821
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: he was my first center coming in the. Season and

822
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: it's a crappy center. Crop let's be, Honest it's just

823
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: not a good. Position it's one of the worst positions

824
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: in the. Draft but he is a good. Player going

825
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: back To Tyrene, powell if you go back and you

826
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: watch the film from twenty twenty, two even the first

827
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: half of twenty twenty, Three Tyrene, powell the linebacker From,

828
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: rutgers looks like a legitimate top forty five pick six

829
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: four and a, half two hundred and fifty, pounds and

830
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: they used him as an off ball. Linebacker they didn't

831
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: use him up with the line as, scrimmage as a.

832
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: Blitzer they Had Mohammed torrey there who got injured last,

833
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: year And powell was, outstanding and you're watching, him you're

834
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: watching him play in, space and you're, like look at

835
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: the size of this. Guy you should be able to

836
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: teach him the. Blitzer they just didn't use him as a.

837
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: Blitzer what happened was he had Broke he broke his

838
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: wrist midway through the twenty twenty three, season so he

839
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 2: wasn't playing one hundred percent the end of that. Year

840
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: and then in spring boy Actually february of twenty twenty,

841
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: four getting ready for the, season he tore his achilles

842
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: in the. Gym and he came back from the achilles,

843
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: tear probably too. Soon he came back like seven months,

844
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: later began missed the first two games Of rutgers season

845
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, four played the end Of september Against Virginia,

846
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: tech and you can tell watching him on film he

847
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: just wasn't one hundred.

848
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Percent he tore his achilles In march and played.

849
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: At, February, September. February he tore it In february in the,

850
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: gym and and he was back on the field in seven.

851
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: Months AND i asked, HIM i, said you, know, wow

852
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: you feel you were rushed because we interviewed. Him BECAUSE

853
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: i Watched powell for three years now AND i, said

854
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: do you feel you were rushed? Back and he's, like, no,

855
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: NO i wanted to come. Back but you know the

856
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: way the college game is these, days they were not

857
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: these days for years. Now they put these guys on

858
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: the field with injuries when they shouldn't be. Playing but you,

859
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: know he wanted to get back on the. Field you

860
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: could tell he wasn't one hundred. Percent you could tell

861
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: he didn't have the same quickness for. Pop then he

862
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: got injured in the ball. Game somebody rolled up on his,

863
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: knee which is why he didn't play the senior ball

864
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: because he still wasn't, serious but it was still the

865
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: nicks and the bruises and getting his knee rolled up

866
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: on the ball game at the ballgame basically knocked him

867
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: out of playing in the senior. Ball hopefully he runs well.

868
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: Tomorrow the fact is, This Tyine powell is going to

869
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: be A day three pick if he's able to get

870
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: back to health and he's able to get his playing

871
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: for him back to where it was in twenty twenty

872
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: two and build upon. That somebody's going to get the

873
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: steel of the drift because that guy is a redown

874
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: linebacker with potential on the blitz and he plays in,

875
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: space and he's smartest, heck and he's very. Athletic SO

876
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: i hope he does well tomorrow regardless of what happens In.

877
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: April he's a good prospect if he's able to get

878
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: back to.

879
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: HEALTH i love, it. Gentlemen good. Stuff. Rick let's store

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Speaker 3: Out, yeah, no appreciate, it. Guys this has been an enlightening.

884
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Speaker 3: want to come inside the film. Room we're doing a

889
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Speaker 3: scouting seminar tomorrow, night as a matter of, fact breaking

890
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: down some defensive. LINEMEN i mentioned The draft. Show It's

891
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Speaker 3: Aaron friday this, week but typically it airs Every wednesday

892
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Speaker 3: at three thirty Pm. Eastern Brian baldinger and myself will

893
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: be counting you down to THE Nfl draft and you,

894
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: know just crossing the t's not in the, Eyes And

895
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: i'll tell you the name is slipping my. Mind But

896
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 3: i'm polishing up all these background reports and scouting, evaluations

897
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Speaker 3: and there is a guy in the. Draft his name

898
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: is slipping in my. Mind next TIME i, See i'll

899
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: have it for. You there's a player in this year's

900
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: draft that came back from it TORN acl in five

901
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: and a half months and played this. Year and so

902
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: they're coming back bigger and faster and. Stronger but, yeah

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Speaker 3: appreciate the, Time.

904
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Speaker 1: Tony how about? You what do you have coming up

905
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Speaker 1: on Sports? Kid any mock? Drafts what are you got?

906
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: Coming you, know it's prode months and THE prodi information

907
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: comes fast and. Furious we already have an article about

908
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: yesterday's prodees Or monday's protece Is, shae not. Yesterday's it

909
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: Was Western michigan and it WAS i forgot the other,

910
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: one whatever it. Was but if you want to know

911
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: who teams were talking, to who performed well with the,

912
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: prode's it's just going to get crazier and crazy as

913
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: we get through the month Of. MARCH i rarely leave

914
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: the That i'm sitting. In, unfortunately this is the craziest.

915
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: Month you, know who's doing, well what teams are talking,

916
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: of which players and all the other the down and

917
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: dirty stuff that the teams don't want out.

918
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: There That's Draft, season presented By, moody's a proud part

919
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,120
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Speaker 1: Com next, Week tony AND i will update team needs

922
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: after free, agency which will finally give us some guide

923
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: as to what these and mock drafts will start getting

924
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: slightly more accurate now that we know what players are

925
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: with what teams. Here so we'll update team needs next

926
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: week and then we'll hit the PRO da circuit moving,

927
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: forward and then we'll blink and it'll Be april and

928
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: we're like three weeks away from THE Nfl. Draft So,

929
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: rick thank, You, tony thank, you and we'll see you

930
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: next time On draft season