1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Friday, 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: August eighteenth. It is a weekend. We have a phenomenal 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: guest guy I worked with at the Big Lead. Longtime 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: listeners probably remember him. He was on my radio show 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: back in the day, and then I think we had 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 2: him on the pod last year or two years ago, 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Ryan Glaspiegel. He's at the New York Post. I try 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: not to get in trouble because you know now that 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm back when I covered the media it's the Big Lead. 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't really get in trouble. I was covering the media, 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: but now I'm in the media and the media writes 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: about my place of employee and occasionally about me, and 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: I've got to steer clear of it. So I do 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: steer clear of that as much as possible. But I 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: still think it's an illuminating talk out of NFL as 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: well some gambling stuff. Just a quick programming note. So 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: we've been doing every Friday NFL divisional previews. I'm gonna 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: punt on this Friday, mostly because of this voice issue. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: It's not major. I'm gonna have to have a minor, 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: very minor, very minor surgery on the throat, and I 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: just got to dial back a little of the chatter. 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna keep this intro brief, and when i'm 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: back closer to one hundred percent here and next week 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 2: and then the following week or whenever, I will rattle 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: off the division previews, I've got a lot. I'm actually 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: gonna be going to Vegas soon to be laying down 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: the season long bets. I probably usually do about ten. 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: I think I went six and four, seven and three 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: last year, and so it's good to go into Vegas 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: with some winning tickets. I'll sign up for the big contest. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: And then that's when you know it's like on and popping. 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I'm spending a thousand or fifteen hundred 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: bucks whatever the intro fhe is, and every week I'm 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: gonna be locked in like that's you know, that's the 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: football season right there. And then you got the weekly 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: bets and the fantasy setting fantasy draft dates. It's getting exciting. 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, Listen, I'm sure there's a lot of 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: NBA fans here who don't love the NFL, and I 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: get that. That's fine. Hey do you think, guys I 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: can love them both? And I do. But yeah, we'll 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: be doing a lot of fun and exciting stuff leading 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: up to the NFL season. Got some guests. I know 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: some of you have requested mister Baker to stop by 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: opening week. I will be reaching out soon. He's the 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: guy who won this contest three million dollars, whatever it is. 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that's retirement money. It's funny when you're 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: a kid, you think, oh, I won five million bucks, 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: I can retire. I don't. That's not even close to accurate. 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think five. I'm sure you guys 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: have had this discussion with your buddies. What's the number 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: you need to get to in your account? Where you 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: think you're good and you could just live off the 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: interest and be still not have a massive life drop off. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: You can still try and do whatever you want. I 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: don't have to worry ten, fifteen, twenty, I don't know. 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: It depends where you are, what you got, how many 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: kids you got, what you got poppin' you know. I 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: don't know. Do you have alimony payments? Do you have 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: multiple wives? I don't know. I don't know your situation. 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: So everybody's different anyways, Man, I was a ramble. Let's 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: get to our guest from the New York Post, Ryan Glaspiegel. 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: You know a guy Jason likes to think he knows 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: fans want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a 67 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: guy who does. 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy. 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy I've 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: known for probably about a decade now. He was at 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated, and I brought him over to the Big 73 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: Lead and we started chopping it up. He's a media reporter, 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: and as luck would have it or unlucky for me, 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Ryan Glaspiegel just happened to break a big story Thursday 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: before we started recording for The New York Post. Let's 77 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: welcome in him and Ryan Glasbiegel. 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: How are you, Ryan, Good to talk to you, Jason. Yeah, 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: it's been ten years, just about in January, It'll been 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: ten years since I joined Big Weed full time. Time 81 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: is fun. 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: Ryan has an amazing memory for stuff that I don't remember. 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Me. 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: I barely remember what I had for lunch last week. 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: Like it's a problem. I just remember the important stuff, 86 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: like the gambling losses and Ryan and I and another guy, Vic, 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: who will have on the pod. He's over at Fox Sports. 88 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: We do college basketball, gambling, text threads, NBA, NFL. Ryan 89 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: is a diehard Packers fan, so obviously I would like 90 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: to start with the Aaron Rodgers stuff. You guys lost Rogers. 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: He is the New York Jets gain Ryan. It feels 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: like post darkness retreat Aaron Rodgers as a new man. 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's found Jesus or he's found 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: a new batch of ayahuasca. But something's up with him. 95 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: He does not sound like the guy who was in 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: Green Bay the last couple of years. 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: Well, let's see what happens the first time, Garrett Wilson, 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: this is one of his hand signals before we'd say 99 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is a whole new man. But yeah, 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: to your point, he's carrying himself in a whole different manner. 101 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: He since he got to the Jets, it's been gratitude 102 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: and he's been bringing the young teammates around and Knicks 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: games and all that stuff. You remember, like last year 104 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: there were like Romeo Dubbs, like, yeah, I don't talk 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: to Rogers at all. And now I think Rogers seems 106 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: to have had some introspection learned from that he's getting 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: along with all the young teammates. Now. I do want 108 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: to see what happens if the Jets face on a 109 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: little bit of adversity. But yeah, training camp, it is 110 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: the honeymoon period for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. 111 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you go to a lot of Packers games. 112 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: Were you at any games last year as it was 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: starting to unravel in the end scene year? 114 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: I was. I went to one last year and I 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: don't remember what game it was off the top of 116 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: my head, but you know, it's crazy, Jason, and they 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: had a Sunday night football home game against the Lions. Winning, 118 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs. That's losing, You're out. And I've 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: stunned that they squandered that decision. And you know, it 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: did feel like it was the end for Rogers in 121 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: Green Bay right then. There had been two straight off 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: seasons of questions and I think that really, just at 123 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: least in my mind, got me ready for the transition 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: to Jordan Love. 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, But like I don't know Jordan Love. He's sat 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: around for three years. Do we think he's any good? 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the only people that know were in that 128 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: locker room, and all we can tell is like they 129 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: didn't pick up his fifth year option. They kind of 130 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: gave him a new deal that's not as lucrative. It 131 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: feels like he's still got a lot to prove. Is 132 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: that fair? 133 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: It's fair to say he has a lot to prove. 134 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say that just because 135 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: he sat for three years means he's gonna be bad. 136 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: If you remember, in two thousand and eight, Rogers sat 137 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: for three years, and there was a much more controversial 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: changing of the guard from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: than there was from Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love. Like 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Farv retired, then he unretired, and a big swath of 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: the Packers fan base wanted far back, but Ted Thompson 142 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy had already, you know, moved on to Rogers. 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: If Farv didn't retire that first sea time, I'm not 144 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: sure that he ever, that Rogers ever gets the chance. 145 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: But Rogers did sit for three years behind him. He 146 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: got booed at family Night in training camp when the 147 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Packers fans had the open practice and the Packers went 148 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: six and ten. Now, I really like, I swear this 149 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: isn't revisionist history. I was a gas at the way 150 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: that Packers fans were treating him at the time. I 151 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: went and I bought a Rogers jersey his first year, 152 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and they signed him to an extension. So even though 153 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: the Packers were six and ten and missed the playoffs 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: that first year, and by the way, Farv was lighting 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: it up for the Jets until he injured his forearm. 156 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: He was like eight and three. He was the odds 157 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: on favorite in the gambling odds to win MVP. It 158 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: was dark times in that Backers season, but even then 159 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: you saw glimpses that Rogers would be good, and they 160 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: gave him an extension even though the team wasn't winning, 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: even though the front office was getting battered for letting 162 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Farv go as he was just killing it for the Jets, 163 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and clearly that wound up working out. So you know, 164 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: i'd advise giving Jordan Love some time before we just 165 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: say that it's not going to work. 166 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: Do we know if Matt Lafleur is a good coach. 167 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: We don't know, but I do think he is because 168 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: the year before he was head coach, you know, it 169 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: was a disaster with Mike McCarthy, but Rogers wasn't unhealthy 170 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: or anything. In that year they missed the playoffs, fired 171 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: McCarthy before hiring Lafloor, and then he ripped off three 172 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: straight thirteen win seasons. 173 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: So who did Lafleur or Rogerson? 174 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, Rogers, Like you know, there were questions is Rogers 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: a league average quarterback? Heading into the relationship with Matt Lafleur, 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: people didn't think that that was going to work. People 177 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: thought that Rogers might be washed up at that point. 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: And the first year he didn't like play great. It 179 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: was weird. They went thirteen and three, but it wasn't 180 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: MVP er in Rogers. Then they drafted Jordan Love and 181 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: he ripped off the two consecutive FU MVP years. And 182 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: so I do think laflor is a good coach, But 183 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: you're right, we don't know that yet. 184 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Realistic expectations, putting aside your fandom for Rogers in New York, 185 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: no that the schedule is very front loaded. Their first 186 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: six games are the toughest in the league and they 187 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: lose to Buffalo at the opener. Short week, go to Dallas, 188 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: and Dallas has a good defensive line. The Jets offensive 189 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: line is the biggest weakness. It could be owing too early. 190 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: And we know how the New York media can get. 191 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm in the New York media now. 192 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: It's just kind of crazy because I live in Chicago, 193 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: but I'm very versed in the New York media. I 194 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: grew up on the East Coast, reading the post, listening 195 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: to WFA on et cetera, et cetera. The I think 196 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the Jets make the playoffs. I mean, they really should. 197 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: There are seven teams that make it in the conference. 198 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: I get it. The AFC East is one of the 199 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: toughest divisions in football. The Bills are bona fide Super 200 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Bowl contenders every year that they've got Josh Allen at 201 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: this point forward until further notice. The Dolphins are you know, 202 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: much improved over the Dolphins of several years ago. And 203 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots, like, you know, we have some questions about 204 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: what they've been doing on offense the last couple of years, 205 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: but that's a ferocious defense and I don't think that 206 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: it's a gimmey that like the Jets would go to 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: and zero against some you know, Belichick always saves his 208 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: craziest stuff for the Jets. But they should make the playoffs. 209 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would say that they should 210 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: win the division. I'd say that the Bills are still 211 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: the favorites there. But I think it's a disappointment Jason 212 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,479 Speaker 1: if the Jets don't reach the second round of the playoffs, 213 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: like they just thinking in I don't think he's good 214 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: enough with like the expectations of this year. 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like, let's say the Bengals get the 216 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: number one seed and the Jets have to go on 217 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: the road to Kansas City. No, but they're not expected 218 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: to win that. 219 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but that's putting. I mean that, I think 220 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: it's a disappointment if they're the seventh seed in the AFC. 221 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: I think they should be you know, five or six 222 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: and then have to yeah, maybe go on the road 223 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: and win a playoff game, but still. 224 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 2: So getting to the playoffs. Salah and Joe Douglas keep 225 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: their jobs the coaching GM and they're like, hey, this 226 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: was year one with Rogers. We're building up towards year two. 227 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: We still don't have to panny of our young stars. 228 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: We got cap room. You could make excuses to bring 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: him back, but you missed the playoffs and their toast 230 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: for sure, like there's just no way to now. A 231 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: Rogers injury could change all that. I want to pivot 232 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. You're a big stock guy. I know 233 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: your dad talks stocks. He LISSI reads that he used 234 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: to read the Big Lead, and we've been on some 235 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: emails with him. If you could buy stock in Jordan 236 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Love or any of the three quarterbacks who are expected 237 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: to start this year, the rookies Stroud, Young and Richardson, 238 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: I think those are the only three ore they I think, so, Yeah, 239 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: who would you rather buy stock in love? With the 240 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: three rookies from this year? 241 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: I'd buy stock in Love and then the second one 242 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: would be Richardson. You know, I think that running quarterbacks 243 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: translate better to their rookie contract than maybe traditional pocket 244 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: passers do. We saw that the prototype for this began 245 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: when the Seahawks won with Russell Wilson on there on 246 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: his rookie deal. I do think that we'll was, you know, 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: a more polished passer coming into the league than Richardson, 248 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: even though Wilson, who you know, played at my alma 249 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: mater Wisconsin, slipped to the third round because of his height. 250 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, even as weird as things 251 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: seem with the Colts, with you know, this battle that 252 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: Jim Ersay and Jonathan Taylor are having, I think that 253 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: Richardson could win on some games with his legs. Yeah, 254 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: and then you know the Texans and Panthers. Maybe you 255 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I think, I you'd wait to buy stock on Stroud 256 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: or Young see if there's like a situation like when Rogers' 257 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: first year as a starter, where I see flashes of them, 258 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: but the team isn't really ready to win yet, and 259 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: I think I can maybe get their stock at a 260 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: lower price while evaluating. 261 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: I want to talk about how the sausage gets made, 262 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: specifically in the NFL. It's you know, you and I 263 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: have talked about this a lot. I don't know how 264 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: much readers care, but we both covered the sports media, 265 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: and you know you got to stay on it to 266 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: break stories. You got to really, you know, badger pester 267 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: these the sources, whether sources in the front office, on 268 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: the team, players, whatever. Yeah, I just I'm curious as 269 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: to your thoughts on exactly. Are the journalists sometimes perceived 270 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: more as middlemen where there's simply handed stuff, you know, 271 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: the guys at the top, from the coaches and the 272 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: agents handed and here here you can go report this 273 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: because often when we hear about trades, it's totally out 274 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: of left field, like there was no speculation this was 275 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: going to happen, and look, bam, it happened. And I 276 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: don't know, I feel like we get that more in 277 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: the NFL than any other sport. And basketball you hear 278 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: stuff in the in the in the what do they 279 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: call that the grist, You just hear that churning constantly, 280 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: Hey Joel and beating the next Jeel and being the 281 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: next it's out there. In the NFL, we don't hear 282 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: any of that, And I just sometimes. 283 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: They do drop Easter eggs sometimes I'll give me rear. 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: Albert Breer is a guy like you know, during coaching 285 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: interviews or whatever in the off season. If you read 286 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: his s I call him closely, you can kind of 287 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: tell which way teams might be leaning. And he could 288 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: be like a month in advance of a coaching hiring 289 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: or something, and it wouldn't surprise me. And that's happened 290 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: a number of times, although since you put me on 291 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: the spot, I can't think of it off the top 292 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: of my head. Fair Schefter had the time that like 293 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: he he was on top of how Brady would retire 294 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: months in advance or no, he was on top of 295 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Brady leaving New England, remember that, like last season in 296 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: New England, and like in October, Schefter knew it was 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: going to happen. And Rappaport will get stuff, you know, 298 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: months in advance as well. It's but yeah, in terms 299 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: of these trades or a signing, a lot of times 300 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: the front offices which really operate under cloak and dagger, 301 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of they you know, bestow it on the 302 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: news breaker at the last, like eleventh hour, and then 303 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Schefter and Rapaport might be you know, thirty five seconds 304 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: apart for like who is first and who is second? 305 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that stuff overblown now? I mean it 306 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: used to seem like it matter fifteen years ago. You 307 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: get a scoop. Hey. Now with social media it's like, hey, 308 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: you got a text, you just put it out there. 309 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Everybody got the text. Whoever's quick ast to their phone, 310 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: they put it out there. 311 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: I think though, I don't know that that's totally the case. 312 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: So I think that one of them like may get 313 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: it first and then you know, confirm really fast once 314 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: they see that the other one has gotten it. It's 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, people are way more into the Woj versus 316 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Shams rivalry than they are Schefter versus Rapaport for whatever reason. 317 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Like obviously Chams was like the protege and Woj was 318 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: the ment tour. Yeah, but like you know, during like 319 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: NBA free agency and the draft and stuff, you see 320 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: people making memes with like one dunking on the other, 321 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: and it takes on much more of a life of 322 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: its own than Chefter versus Rappaport. But Schefter versus Rappaport 323 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: is a feisty battle too. Like there's you know, interesting 324 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: friendly thoughts. They are friendly, yes, they. 325 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: Are friend Yeah, wel Jin Johnson not friendly. 326 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I know. 327 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not bashing one or the other, 328 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's weird. You should you brought up the NBA. 329 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: I went for whatever reason this weekend. I looked on Instagram, 330 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: and the NBA Instagram account has like eighty two million. 331 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: The NFL has like twenty eight million. And then if 332 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: you go to Twitter. It's another massive discrepancy. And I 333 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: know this has been talked about a lot. Any thoughts 334 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: on why the NBA is so much bigger on social 335 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: media than the NFL, is it? And it can't just 336 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: be because it's a global game and nobody outside of 337 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: America really cares about the NFL. I mean, we know 338 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: they care in Germany and London a little bit. But 339 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, the NBA online dominates. Why is that? 340 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, they put a lot more focus into it 341 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: over the last ten years. But I will say, you know, 342 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: we remember when we used to talk about this like 343 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: eight years ago, where because we would look at the 344 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: traffic meter of how many followers somebody allegedly had on Twitter, 345 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: and we would see how many like page views it 346 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: sent to the big lead when they tweeted, and that 347 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: kind of made us overly skeptical of like, okay, social media, 348 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: raw follower account did like they buy followers. Did someone 349 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: buy them on their behalf or they gaming some algorithm 350 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: that picks up you know, non human followers or bots 351 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. And so when you just mention that, you know, 352 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: Entity A has more millions of followers on Instagram than 353 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: edity B I don't know what you can do with 354 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: that information until you start distilling it into like, oh, well, 355 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: how many views are they getting? And even views and 356 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: likes and stuff can be gamed too. But I would 357 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: say that the NBA likely as a more younger digitally 358 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: savvy fan base than the NFL. But yeah, as far 359 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: as like the wide discrepancy, it's difficult to kind of 360 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: pinpoint what variables versus globalism, you know, versus they're better 361 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: at digital or whatever. And it's crazy because it doesn't 362 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: translate into TV viewership. The NFL like wipes the floor, 363 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: not just with the NBA, but with everything else on 364 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: television other than like presidential debates and occasionally the Olympics. 365 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 2: So, I mean, NFL's only what seventeen games. NBA has 366 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: like eighty two, you know, hockey has I don't even 367 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: know how long the hockey see. 368 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, also eighty two too many. 369 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like there's so many games. Game 370 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: seventeen doesn't matter in the NFL. Game nine is like, boy, 371 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: you can't you go three and six season pretty much over? 372 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: You know, It's true, Yeah, there's so much urgency to them. 373 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's nothing I don't think the NBA or 374 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: baseball or hockey can do. What do you shorten the 375 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: season and lengthen the Can you. 376 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: Imagine if the NBA was like a seventeen week season 377 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: like the NFL, and then the playoffs were, by the 378 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: way elimination. 379 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: Do you think that this in season tournament will do anything? 380 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Uh? I mean I think I'm you know, twenty eight 381 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: percent more likely to watch one of these tournament games 382 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: than I would be, like, you know, Lakers Suns on 383 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: a Wednesday night. So the thing is is that we 384 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: need to see that there is like playoff intensity in 385 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: these games. If these games are you know, load management 386 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: opportunities or whatever, and the players are playing at three 387 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: quarter speed like you kind of observe in a lot 388 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: of these regular season games, then I'll decide, Okay, this 389 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: doesn't really have stakes, But if it's presented like these 390 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: games are meaningful and the players buy in, then yeah, 391 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I think I'll be a little bit more likely to watch, 392 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: especially when we get to the Semis and the finals. 393 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, one being shoulder shrug, 394 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: doesn't care, don't care, it doesn't matter. Ten is defcon one. 395 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: We're panicking. Yankees are in last place and in dager 396 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: of missing the postseason. Major League Baseball and Fox cannot 397 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: be happy with that. What's their level between one and ten. 398 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I'd say it's somewhere around a five. Like, obviously they 399 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: prefer the Yankees in it, but the Yankees haven't been 400 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: a World Series threat in a while, Like they make 401 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: the Alcs, but they haven't won a World Series since 402 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. Now, and baseball is just it's 403 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Braves went public like the Packers did, 404 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: and so you could, for the first time recently start 405 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: to see the the numbers bear out, and the Braves 406 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: meets something like seventy percent of their revenue from like 407 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: ticket sales and concessions and merchandise and like thirty percent 408 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: from TV. And if you look at it at the NFL, 409 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: that would be like flipped. So with the MLB, the 410 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: local like broadcast rights and the gate are so much 411 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: more of an important part of the business model than 412 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: the national TV package. Like, yeah, Fox Sports wants the 413 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Yankees in the World Series, that's not a secret, But 414 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: just in terms of like how baseball works business wise 415 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: in the aggregate, it's not like as much of a 416 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: disaster as you may think. 417 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: I would just think, like, you know, Women's World Cup 418 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: US gets knocked out early, it's like you know spin 419 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: in England. Okay, that'll be good. But are you waking 420 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: up at three in the morning West Coast time here 421 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: this weekend? 422 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: What? 423 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't probably I got a men's 424 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: league basketball game later that day and I have to 425 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: take a nap. But I don't know. Anyways, I guess. 426 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Brave team in baseball is dynastic, and so I guess 427 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: we'll find out how they are going to be watched. 428 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: They are they are going to be so like they 429 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: they already won two years ago, and I think they 430 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: should be like greater than even money like favorites this 431 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: year the way like they're just electric with their bats, 432 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: and I think when it's like said and done, they 433 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: might rival like the nineties Yankees in rings, like they 434 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: might win four of them with this core. And so yeah, 435 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: the Braves, Like I think it's gonna be good for 436 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: baseball to have them as this like years long indomitable threat. 437 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: Do they still do the tomahawk chopper? 438 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: No, they do it sometimes, but I don't think it's 439 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: like regular. 440 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't know I confess to really liking that when 441 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: FSU does, it just has the vibe from my youth. Anyways, 442 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: you said something about even money and gambling, and I, uh, 443 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm curious. You know, the gambling is starting to happen 444 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: more and more. It's getting what twenty five thirty states, 445 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: and we're seeing a lot of movement. Recently, Barstool kind 446 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: of got dumped by their connector, and that connector conn 447 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: then linked up with ESPN. I think we saw win 448 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: met recently shut down. Just a lot of movement. Where 449 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: are you on what's happening? Should should sports fans care? 450 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: I know you and I shop around for the best price. 451 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but not everybody's doing that. They're just like, oh, 452 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: I love the Titans as we I'm going to go 453 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: bet them, but they're not checking like seven different sports books. 454 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: It's just your thoughts on gambling as we head into 455 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three football. 456 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the consumer wants more of these sports 457 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: books for like absolute certain that's the case, because I 458 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: don't know if most people are shopping the line or something, 459 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: but if you're getting a q or three percent edge 460 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: difference every time you make a bet, it adds up 461 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: to a lot of money in the long run. And 462 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: then the thing that I'm most interested in in the 463 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: gambling marketplace now, so Fandol and DraftKings have built especially 464 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: Fandel is the leader. DraftKings is also the queer number two. 465 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: They built a duopoly almost you know, Caesar's and MGM 466 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: are in the game. Pen is in the game. But 467 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how Fanatics entering this marketplace changes everything. 468 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: Because they have every sports fan in America's email address, 469 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: and they're picking up a bunch of live states by 470 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the acquisition of Points Bet. That would have been like 471 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: very difficult for them to get licensed one by one 472 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: by one, and so like they're gonna come out like 473 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you're watching the Kentucky Derby and it's 474 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: taking forever to start. The horses are like walking up 475 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the last horse gets 476 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: to the gate and they're off. That's what Fanatics is 477 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm interested to see how they fare 478 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: in this horse race. You know, they're gonna have to 479 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: make up a lot of market share, but they who 480 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: would have thought ten years ago that this one company 481 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: could come along and gobble up all of sports apparel 482 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: across all professional sports, and then all of trading cards 483 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: all across all professional sports for good measures. So you know, 484 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: no pun intended. I wouldn't bet against Fanatics, but they're 485 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: gonna have an uphill climb with what Fando and DraftKings 486 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: and the other books have already built. So that's gonna 487 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: be really interesting, and that's happening very soon. 488 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever bought anything from Fanatics. 489 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: You absolutely have. 490 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: I probably just don't remember. Right there, there is a. 491 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: Million verse chance you bought something from finished. 492 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. 493 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious do you think your email when you when 494 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: you get that's. 495 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: A good point. Do you think Fanatics ends up going 496 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: the route of some of these failed companies where they 497 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: just were like, hey, sports media person, I'm gonna throw 498 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty k your way and we're going 499 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: to leverage your social media audience to sign up people. 500 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: Because a couple of these companies have tried that with 501 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: some very curious decisions, and I believe it's like a 502 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 2: one hundred percent failure rate. I'm not certain of that. 503 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: It's not one hundred percent failure rate LIKEAFEE, for example. 504 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Quay Travis. We're both big affiliate providers for FanDuel, 505 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: like and you know Fox bought out Kick as a 506 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: result kind of partly of OutKick as like an affiliate 507 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: driver for gambling sign ups. And then McAfee's big deal 508 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: with ESPN is because he was proven as somebody who's 509 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: drove a lot of sign ups for fanduels. So and 510 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you know this Levatar deal, like he he's re upped 511 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: with DraftKings, so they clearly think that that's going well. 512 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: And what do you think volume, I know you love buddy, 513 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna say yeah. 514 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't know that. I wouldn't say. 515 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard say, but the yeah, I think there 516 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: there are. If you're going to go after media personality, 517 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: you have to go after once to actually have, you know, 518 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: a devoted individual audience who are hanging on their every word. 519 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask ask Ryan. Devoted audience hanging on 520 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: their word. But you didn't mention anything about gambling. What 521 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: if they decide I don't want to mention a specific 522 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: person's name, but trust me, there's a lot of them 523 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: in my head. This person over here has never talked 524 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: about gambling and seven years of covering the NBA, all 525 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: of a sudden we want her audience. She's got nine 526 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: hundred thousand followers, and that's just not gonna work. They 527 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: think it's gonna work. They keep banging their head against 528 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: the wall. It's not gonna work. 529 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to well, I don't know what Fanatics 530 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: is going to do. It's incredibly valuable, Like I said that, 531 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: they have everybody's email address and credit cards already. 532 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: Side on, dude, you've got to get them and talk 533 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: knowingly and knowledgeable. 534 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that there aren't that many 535 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: degenerate sports gamblers in America. For the amount of like 536 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: marketing and promotion all of. 537 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: These sports give out, I don't know. 538 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a low margin business. Though. You 539 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: look at like in Las Vegas when it when it 540 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: was the only place in the country that you could 541 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: bet on sports, and you look how much more of 542 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: those casinos made on penny slots that on sports gambling. 543 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: And it's just, you know, we're in this bubble where 544 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: we're obsessed with it. It's not as like widespread as 545 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: we might think. Like for how many women do you 546 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: know that bet all the time on sports. 547 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 2: None. 548 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know any either, like in person. I know 549 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: there's some online that like I know their personalities and 550 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: they do, but I haven't met any that. 551 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are. 552 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Obsessed with that. I'm sure there are, but I like 553 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: there are. 554 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: First of all, Listen, gambling on sports is not something 555 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: you should be obsessed with. Let's be real, right, would 556 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: you agree with that it's not helping Ryan? I would like, obviously, 557 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be going to Vegas soon, I'll enter a contest. 558 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: I will have season long bets like I'm gambling every 559 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: week on the NFL and college football. That being said, 560 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: I don't think being obsessed is healthy. That's not with 561 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: anything you know, whether it's working out. 562 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: How many do you know that even bet like NFL 563 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: every week though it's. 564 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: Not Listen, I'm a married guy. I don't talk to 565 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: a lot of women who bet on the NFL. I 566 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: don't know any bro none. But I'll say this, more 567 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: guys talk to me about sports gambling than they do 568 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: fantasy football. 569 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: Yes. Absolutely, I think there's no question that over the 570 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: last three or four years, as gambling has become legalized, 571 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: that fantasy football has lost some of it's luster. 572 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still do fantasy. I think I'm in four 573 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: or five leagues this year, my sons and a couple 574 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: like I love, I love fantasy Football's football is great. 575 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of the gambling, I am curious where you are 576 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: on you know these insiders who will work at a 577 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: major network that has a gambling connection. We saw Cham's 578 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: during the NBA kind of lead everybody down the ditch 579 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: with information about the number one pick. A lot of 580 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: people listen to him, and it was a bad whiff. 581 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal wrote about it. Have you given much 582 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: thought to that? 583 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the same thing happened last year with Woj 584 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: and like Paolo Boncerro too, Like I don't think that 585 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: they anything was like nefarious with. 586 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: Did Woj wasn't like being paid by a gambling company, 587 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: was he? 588 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: No, No, he wasn't. 589 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: But Chalms is connected with one though, that's the big difference. 590 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: Yes, Chams works for FANDUOL. But like, I just think 591 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: it was like the case of getting something wrong. Like 592 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: I think he probably like read the wrong tea weaves 593 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: or something. I doubt that he, you know, put himself 594 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: out there and got the number one over or there's 595 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: the number two overall pick or wrong, so that like 596 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: FanDuel could take a bunch of dumb bets because the 597 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: betting limits on like draft stuff is pretty low anyway, right, 598 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: I doubt because like that, it wasn't that meaningful a 599 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: swing for like the gambling company. So I think that 600 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: to your point, though, there's going to be a lot 601 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: of fixation on it. Anytime a reporter gets anything wrong, 602 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be under a magnifying glass for it 603 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: for that reason. 604 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: But I want to ask you, my buddy sent me this. 605 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: Damn I forgot to bring it up. I don't know 606 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: if I texted you this. This is from August sixth. 607 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: Fairfax County teacher wins two hundred and fourteen thousand dollars 608 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: in bets, but claims none of it after bet GM 609 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: cited obvious error. Yes, he had bet on the Women's 610 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: World Cup and hit all the bets, and they were like, WHOA, 611 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: something's fishy here. We made a mistake. Sorry, you can't 612 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: get paid. Let's just a minute. The books don't want 613 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: winning betters, right, they don't. 614 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: No, they do not. They do not want winning better. 615 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: It's not even a little bit. And you have to 616 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: think that it's going to be like a poor long 617 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: term strategy from them, if you like, think of this 618 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: as like a tilted carnival game that if you ever 619 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: do get lucky and win, it's game over. And this 620 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: teacher story, I'm really surprised that they wouldn't just eat 621 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: the two hundred grand and not getting all of that 622 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: bad press, and like, I bet you the gaming board 623 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: because of all that bad press is going to pressure 624 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: them into paying it out anyway. So they're going to 625 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: get the bad press, and they're probably I think, still 626 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: going to have to pay the money because I don't 627 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: think that they have a queer cut case that these 628 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: lines were obvious mistakes other than the fact that I what, teacher, 629 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: do you know that is like betting twenty five hundred 630 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: dollars on like middle of the night women's soccer parways 631 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: about like how many corners Vietnam is gonna kick? Like 632 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, that's the evidence. But I do 633 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: think that it was an obvious mistake. Otherwise this teacher 634 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have like risks so much. But the teacher did 635 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: a risk on these bets. It wasn't something like will 636 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: there be a corner kick in this game. It wasn't 637 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: something that like obvious of a miss price. It like 638 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: required the expertise of a math teacher to figure it out. 639 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm going to be very interested to 640 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: see how this winds up. 641 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: We'll wrap up with any season long bets in the NFL, 642 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: and then your Super Bowl picks. 643 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna piggyback on Jason Less here, our other guy 644 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: from the Big Lead. He likes Shane Steichen, Coach of 645 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: the Year. He makes the case that this isn't a 646 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: war that is like set up for like rookie head 647 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: coaches to win. Brian Dabole won it last year, and 648 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: so you know they they could surprise some teams just 649 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: by winning games. As I said earlier with Anthony Richardson's legs, 650 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: I like that pick. My super Bowl pick is Bills 651 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: versus Eagles, and I'm gonna go Eagles to win. 652 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: Eagles. Okay, Buffalo. 653 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: I have a hot take that I don't like the 654 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs play with their food. So we saw, you know, 655 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: they came out and won last year and then they 656 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: got their victory parade with the Netflix Quarterback series. Everybody 657 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: knows Mahomes is the best player on the planet. When 658 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: when they are like, you know, winning, winning, winning, all 659 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, they like take their foot off the gas. 660 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna win consecutive Super Bowls. So 661 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: that's why I'm picking the Bills out of the AFC. 662 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: Interesting, what about my y you said second round loss? 663 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Yes to the Bills. 664 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: Do your Packers make the playoffs? 665 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Yes? You know, I think if I were betting the 666 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: NFC North, I know you're been high on the Bears, 667 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: I'd be doing like the Vikings at plus two seventy 668 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: five and the Packers at like plus four something. I 669 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what their number is. I saw ESPN 670 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: Analytics gave them a twelve percent chance to win the division, 671 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: which is like very low. You know, I don't I 672 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: don't buy into the Lions hype and I don't buy 673 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: into the Bears type. I think one of the Backers 674 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: or Vikings will win that division, and I'd say that 675 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: I would I'd put the Packers at over fifty to 676 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: fifty to make the playoffs. They have a lot of 677 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: good players behind Jordan Love. I know you're our guy, 678 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: call and call Jordan Love a game manager. This week 679 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember Jason when a guy named 680 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was referred to as a game manager, and 681 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: I think you're old enough to remember that too. That 682 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: term gets through grown around a little bit too derisively. 683 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: The Packers at two to fifty three, very talented roster 684 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and I think a game 685 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: manager might actually be just what they need. 686 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: Run the ball, win with defense, assuming the defense shows 687 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: up this year. All right, Ryan Glasspiegel The New York Post. 688 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Ryan enjoyed the weekend. Thanks for taking the time, buddy, 689 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: Thanks 690 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: For having me anytime.