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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast I'm Josh, and there's

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Speaker 1: Chuck and Jerry's here too, and we'd like to welcome

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Speaker 1: you to what will certainly be the greatest episode of

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, this one, I love it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Stuffing the Jaws show.

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Speaker 1: Bukowski and Hunter Thompson and Jim Morrison is also like,

438
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: upon reflection, very cringey. It seems like a lot of

439
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: times too.

440
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm cringing right now whatever that means these days?

441
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: What cringey?

442
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: Did you say? Like me right now?

443
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cringing right now just thinking about it, all right,

444
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: But American Prayer was good. I'll stand by that.

445
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: Was that? The the song? The book? What was that?

446
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: It was? It was essentially like a sonic book of

447
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: his poetry. At the doors I think put together after

448
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: his death the years and years later, and it was

449
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: like they played snippets of some of their other songs.

450
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: It was like stuff mixed in. Yeah, and the whole thing,

451
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: from like start to finish is essentially one long thing.

452
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: There's obviously like discrete like read poems that Jim Morrison's reading,

453
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: but the whole thing, like as a single package, was

454
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: really well done if I remember correctly. I don't want

455
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to it because I just

456
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: want to I just want to keep it as is

457
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: in my memory.

458
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: No, totally. I mean, why ruin that for yourself exactly?

459
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: That's why I urge you not to go back and

460
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: read Hunter Thompson.

461
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Ok, okay he's dead to me, Well he really did. Yah.

462
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: You want to take a break now, Yeah, let's take

463
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 2: a break and we'll do are or should we? Now

464
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: let's take a break. We'll do our top three because

465
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: they're a little more robust stoffy jaws sh shop.

466
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: Soff your shore.

467
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: All right? Next up on the list at number three,

468
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: we have one rubin. I'm gonna say, zaraate.

469
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I took it.

470
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: Serati, Yeah, this is in two thousand and eight. He

471
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: was eighteen years old at the time, and he tried

472
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: to ribe to ribe to rob a muffler shop.

473
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: It's like bribing and robbing at the same time.

474
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, a muffler shop in Chicago. But here's the hook

475
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: is that when he got there, the person working and

476
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: this was the manager, jose Ceda sid A. He said,

477
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: the cash is here, but the cash is actually in

478
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: a safe and only the opener knows the safe code combination.

479
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: And he's not going to be here for a few hours.

480
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: And hey, let's stick it to this guy. You come back.

481
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: I'll let you know when he's here if you give

482
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: me your number and you give me a cut of

483
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: this thing. Brilliant plan to think of on the fly.

484
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: It really is. So Zarati is like, oh, okay, well cool,

485
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm in cahoots with this guy. Here's my number. Call

486
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: me when the owner comes in, and then I'll come

487
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: back and rob the muffler shop.

488
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

489
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: I'll give you a taste of the money that I

490
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: take from here, right uh huh. So he did, he laughed,

491
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: and then jose Ceda called the cops and tell them

492
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: what was going on. He waited twenty five minutes for

493
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: some reason. But he did call the cops, and the

494
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: story starts taking some dark turns around now because the

495
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: cops are like, this is great. We're going to use

496
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: you as eight. It's decoy and you call the guy,

497
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: but let us get there first and hide in the

498
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: back and like the garage, the workshop of the garage.

499
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: He said, it'll be so great, you're gonna love it.

500
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna he's gonna be so surprised.

501
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: So he got it like an engine block I can

502
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: hide behind. Oh yeah, okay, perfect.

503
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna pretend like I'm changing oil. I've

504
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: always wanted to do that.

505
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: Do you have a jumpsuit for me?

506
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: So, so Ruben Zarati or Jose sid It calls Rubens variety.

507
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, the owner's here, come on back and

508
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: rob the muffler store that I'm the manager of. And

509
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: so Rubens Zeroty comes back to rob the store. And apparently,

510
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: he said because he sued the City of Chicago after this.

511
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: He said that he got through the door and opened

512
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: it and before anything, before anyone said anything, the cops

513
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: just started shooting at him. So he turned and ran.

514
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: They shot him in the back. It inflicted a life's

515
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: life threatening injury that apparently only surgery would have would

516
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: have saved his life with He did have the life

517
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: saving surgery and then lived to sue the city. I

518
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: could not find out what happened, but his story was

519
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: actually backed up by one of the people who worked

520
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: at the shop too.

521
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically they sort of god always they agreed and

522
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: said that I was like my porky pig moment that

523
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: the cops didn't even announce themselves that they were cops

524
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: before they started shooting, right.

525
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: So, yeah, this is a world class Ruben Zerati story.

526
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Everybody that you just heard like this was real research.

527
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: If you read the Ruben Zarati story, all you hear

528
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: is about a criminal who was dumb enough to leave

529
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: his number, yeah, so he could be called to come

530
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: back and rob the place. And now it makes a

531
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: little more sense and you find out that rubens Arrity

532
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: was shot in the back by the cops.

533
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: It also featured, for my money, one of your best

534
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: jokes in a long long time that was very under

535
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: the radar, which one the one he said the guy

536
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: the cops said, I would have pretend like I'm changing

537
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: oil wanted to do that.

538
00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: I'm glad you liked.

539
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh that was good.

540
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay, so that was number three and we're

541
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: going to one zero. So this is the top four.

542
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: I forgot that was a zero.

543
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: All right, I'm you really you're mad about the zero,

544
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: aren't you.

545
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's just just really threw me.

546
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: Hey man, we've gotten twenty eight minutes out of this

547
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: so far. I'm amazed.

548
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Albert Bailey. This was in

549
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: twenty ten. Bailey and this was had an accomplice, but

550
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: it was a juvenile, so we don't know the name

551
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: of the accomplice. Said all right, let's rob this bank.

552
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: It's Fairfield, Connecticut. It's a good place to rob a bank.

553
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: And to make this happen quicker, what Bailey did was

554
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: call the bank ahead of time and said, I'm coming

555
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: to rob this thing, so get all that money together

556
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: so it doesn't take us very long while we're in there.

557
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Like this is one of the stories. This is legit

558
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: like it legitimately happened, just like this CT Insider, which

559
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm guessing is short for Connecticut Insider.

560
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

561
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: They did a story on it after I think shortly

562
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: after it, and that's exactly what happened. Like, Albert Bailey

563
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: called the bank and said, get the bunny together. He

564
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: said some other things too that made the bank really worry.

565
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: He's like, we're not afraid to take hostages and turn

566
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: the place into a blood bath. So the bank's like, okay, well,

567
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: we're just going to hang up now and call the cops.

568
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: Well also said this is key, don't call the cops

569
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: because we're going to be monitoring the police scanner.

570
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, typically banks don't listen to you when you call

571
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: them ahead of time, but also tell them not to

572
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: call the cops. So they did. They called the cops immediately,

573
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: and as they were calling the cops, they went to

574
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: go lock the doors, which is another thing that you

575
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: would do as a bank. But Albert Bailey was one

576
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: step ahead of them because his unnamed juvenile accomplice, who

577
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: turned out to be his sixteen year old cousin, was

578
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: already in the bank and happened to be carrying a briefcase.

579
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: And when they locked the doors, he said, do you

580
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: see my little accomplice over there, Give him the money.

581
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: So it kind of takes a turn. Yeah, this guy's

582
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: calling the bank ahead of time, but he's he's thought

583
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: a little further along than you might give him credit

584
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: for initial totally.

585
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I got to that point in the story,

586
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, all right.

587
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: All right, I may have misjudged you over Bailey.

588
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. So the cousin's already in there,

589
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: because immediately when the bank was like, well, let's just

590
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: go lock the door. But like that kind of solves

591
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: the problem right there.

592
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: But now they've locked themselves in with the bank robber.

593
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So the bank robber's in there, which is

594
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: the sixteen year o or the accomplish or whatever is

595
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 2: in there? I guess bank robber. Sure, And the teller

596
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: actually puts money in the briefcase and the kid left

597
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: the bank. The sixteen year on left with this money

598
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: because I guess it just it still took the cops

599
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of time to get there. Police said

600
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: that they when they got there, he was walking out

601
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: to the car outside to where Bailey was waiting in

602
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: his car in a nearby apartment or kind of minim complex.

603
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: But they really did have a police scanner. They surrendered,

604
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: but they had walkie talkies, They had a robbery list

605
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: of things to do, and they had a working police

606
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: scanner tuned into that frequency, so that was not a bluff.

607
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: There was something else that stood out to me. The

608
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: CT Insider story says that the sixteen year old cousin

609
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: wordlessly put the briefcase on the teller's counter, and I

610
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: suspect it is weird. I'll bet it was creepy, but

611
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: I suspect that. I guess Albert Bailey was maybe looking

612
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: out for his cousin, because first of all, he's a juvenile,

613
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: so he's underage.

614
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: So don't say anything yes.

615
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Don't say put the money in the bank, don't say

616
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm Robin the bank, don't say anything. And essentially, as

617
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: far as a judge is concerned, this kid was basically

618
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: a tool and extension of Albert Bailey, who you could

619
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: argue is being used against his own will. That stood

620
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: out to me. I'm supposing here, but it seems like

621
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: that might have been the idea behind his cousin not

622
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: saying anything in the bank.

623
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if they said do you want large bills

624
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: and he said, damn right, it's a gun.

625
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, let's press the alarm. They're like

626
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: this seems uncannily familiar to a story I've heard around

627
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: the campfire making s'mores on.

628
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: So there was one more little point to this one

629
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: that you found though, that was pretty good. First of all,

630
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Bailey had just gotten out of prison seven year stint

631
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: for robbing another people's bank in Bridgeport, Connecticut. But the

632
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Bailey said this time, he said, you know, I was

633
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: kidnapped earlier, and some guy kidnapped me and he put

634
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: a bomb in my pocket. Yeah, and said that he

635
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: was unless I robbed this bank for him, he was

636
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: going to blow me.

637
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: Up, which sounds very strangely familiar compared to remember the

638
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Brian Wells story the pizza man, the pizza delivery man

639
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: who really did have a collar bomb put around him

640
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: and forced to rob a bank.

641
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the collar bomb heighst episode exactly.

642
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: That happened the same year that Ronald Bailey said it

643
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: happened to him. That was not a widely known story,

644
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I think at the time, was it?

645
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: It sort of was. I mean, I don't know if

646
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: it was national. Where was that? Do you remember Eerie Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Connecticut,

647
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: same side of the country.

648
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so people talk between those two states, right, sure, Okay,

649
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: but I just thought that was very odd, same year,

650
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: so I guess he was either inspired by the story

651
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: or it's just coincidence he came up with the same idea.

652
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that man, that was a good one.

653
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: It was poor Brian wells Man, good lord, like the

654
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: whole thing, that whole if I remember correctly, that whole story,

655
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: the way it's going, it's just so mad cap and

656
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: nuts that there's no ways actually gonna die. And then

657
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: he dies. Yeah, it's just so said. He's just such

658
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: a hapless dude. That just that that happened to Gil.

659
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: He is very much so. And then did you see

660
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: I think it was called Mastermind, the Netflix special on

661
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: the woman who devised that plan.

662
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it back then, I think, yeah, when

663
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: we recorded.

664
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: It, that was good. And while we're talking about I

665
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: just want to shout out, I don't remember the director's

666
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: name well enough to try to pronounce it, but the

667
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: guy who directed The.

668
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: Lobster, Oh yeah, sure.

669
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: I finally saw The Lobster, Chuck, And I asked you

670
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: about it, and you're like, yeah, like eight years ago,

671
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: but you did agree it's a good movie.

672
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's Yorgis Lanthemos.

673
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: I think, I think so, Yes, that sounds right.

674
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: He's great, Yeah, he is.

675
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: And the thing that turned me on to him was

676
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: I just took a chance and watch the Killing of

677
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: a Sacred Deer Boy and it is just really good.

678
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely different than The Lobster. But Colin Ferrell

679
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: is just perfect as this just dead pan, bone dry

680
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: character that he plays in both those.

681
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's great. He also did the favorite in the

682
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: Academy Award winning Poor Things from last year.

683
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that. I didn't know about that.

684
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh, hang on to your hats and watch Poor Things.

685
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Yeah, I want everything that guy's doing.

686
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Yea, yea. I wouldn't even tell anything about it. But

687
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: you should also go back and watch his early foreign

688
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: language film out Dog Dog Tooth.

689
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I started Alps, which is another one.

690
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: I have not seen Alps, but from his early work,

691
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: the only one I've seen his Dog Tooth, which was

692
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: also disturbing. And he's great, like he's one of the

693
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: sort of brilliant directors working today. I think.

694
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I think brilliant is an excellent word to describe him.

695
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: And you were kind of bagging on Colin Ferrell Colin

696
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: Farrell a little bit, and I think he's he's great.

697
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: You need to see some more of his good stuff.

698
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: What's his good stuff?

699
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: Well? Did you see in Bruges or.

700
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't make it too in Bruges?

701
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Yeah, Well then you probably didn't watch the

702
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: recent one, the with Brendan Gleason, the same one, the

703
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: same guy he was in Bruges with the Bansheese of

704
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: Inna Sharon.

705
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: No, but I saw that served up to me on

706
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: whatever streaming service I was watching it on. No.

707
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's great and it's actually got Berry.

708
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't know you pronounce name Keegan, I guess or Cogan.

709
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: That kid is good. He's in killing of his Sacred deer.

710
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you'd probably you'd probably like this, I.

711
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: Think, Okay, all right, well I'll give it a shot.

712
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: Great quirk, quirky Irish movie. Yeah.

713
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: And then I also went back and watched Black Swan

714
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: again last night, and.

715
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that is such a good movie.

716
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

717
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: I saw that in the theater and I haven't seen

718
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: it since.

719
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: I saw it because you me and I went to

720
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: go see Swan Lake at Kennedy Center in Stree. It

721
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: was amazing. We stayed at the Watergate and then walked

722
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: over to the Kennedy Center and watched Swan Lake. It

723
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: was I was like, this is probably the most cultured

724
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: thing I've ever done in my entire life. It was great,

725
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: great well.

726
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Also staying at the Watergate and going to see Swan Lake.

727
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: That was the very seventies esque experience.

728
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Super for sure. But I like having seen it now

729
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: and then watching Black Swan it just makes you appreciate

730
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: it that much more. It's a good movie.

731
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: All right, here's what I say we do. I'm gonna

732
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: have a quick recommendation of something I've been watching. Okay,

733
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: and I say that in that time, you pick one

734
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: of these two to do.

735
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: Ah, it's like picking between my two children.

736
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: Do we have to do them both?

737
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: No, we can just do one. I already I already

738
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: know which child I'm going with.

739
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: I know. But before we get to that, since this

740
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: is just a sort of a free wheeling episode, I'm

741
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: going to recommend the great great show Ripley. Oh really

742
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: that is on Netflix.

743
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: Right now, The Tom Ripley stuff.

744
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the talented mister Ripley. The Tom Ripley story,

745
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: but it is told over eight episodes. It is in

746
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: the most gorgeous black and white that I may have

747
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: ever seen. And I want to show out the DP

748
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: the cinematographer Brendan Gleeson. That's very funny, but no, it

749
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: was the legendary cinematographer Robert Elswit, who besides shooting all

750
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: of pt Anderson's movies, he's shot another forty other like

751
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: major movies you've heard of. But he did the great

752
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: black and white work in good Night and good Luck.

753
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Ah. Yeah, that was good black and white stuff.

754
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: And it's just stunning photography. And the guy who plays Ripley, Oh,

755
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: what's his name? He was in he was in Fleabag

756
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: what's his name? Emily has a real crush on him.

757
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Brendan Gleeson.

758
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: No, it's a good one though. Andrew Scott, Andrew Scott's

759
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: in it, and Dakota Fanning is in it, and it's

760
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: just really, really, really well done. And I think fans

761
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: of the book or maybe more than one book. Is

762
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: it more than one book?

763
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a series.

764
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think fans of the book series are I

765
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: think it's a lot more true to that. So they

766
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: seem to be pretty happy about it. Yeah. But the

767
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: other guy that's in it is Sting's son, Jeff Ellie

768
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: No Elliott Sumner sting son. This guy he plays Freddy,

769
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, who is this guy? Where have

770
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: I seen him? I was like, Oh, it's young Sting basically.

771
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: Oh cool, They're good.

772
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, nice, pretty good and looks like young Sting.

773
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Okay, well I will check it out. I do have

774
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: a question though, did you watch all eight episodes yet? No?

775
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm on. I think we finished six last night, so

776
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: I got a couple more.

777
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: So that's my problem with a like limited series as

778
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: they start out like like like Gangbusters basically, and then

779
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: they just peter out like a episode four or five,

780
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: six sometimes, and I like, it's just almost all of them.

781
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: Do they're so rare that they make it through all

782
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: eight episodes or ten episodes or whatever where you're not like, yep,

783
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: didn't need two of those episodes easily.

784
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: This is doesn't feel padded to me. It's it's really

785
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: really good so far, and I don't think it'll peter

786
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: out because it's just getting sort of climaxy in the

787
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: here toward the end.

788
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: I have to say, Chuck, it just struck me as

789
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: ridiculously audacious for me to be complaining about people patting

790
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: their series in the middle of this episode. That's pretty

791
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: pretty rich.

792
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: All right, So we'll finish up. But I also should

793
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: recommend Fallout, the TV show about the video game Fallout,

794
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: one of the video games I played on Amazon Prime

795
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: with the great, great great Walton Goggins, one of my favorites.

796
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, got you snuck one more in? Huh, well, that

797
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: means we're doing the last two of these.

798
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: Now, No, no, don't punish me. Let's talk about Dennis Hawkins. Hey, nope,

799
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh you want to do the last guy?

800
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't like the last guy?

801
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought you were gonna go with Dennis Hawkins.

802
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: No, I thought the last guy had a great twist

803
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: to it. But all right, let's.

804
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: Let's do it. James Washington. Everyone can look up Dennis

805
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Hawkins if they want to know about him.

806
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, great idea. Look up Dennis Hawkins

807
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: and you'll pretty much get the whole the whole thing,

808
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: just from looking at a picture of them. All right, me, So,

809
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: James Washington, is this guy who was doing fifteen in

810
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: a Clink in Nashville back in two thousand and nine.

811
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how far he was into his fifteen

812
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: year sentence, but he was definitely in there for attempted murder.

813
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: And he was pretty young, age forty seven when he

814
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: suffered a heart attack in prison and was taken to

815
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: the hospital and he was like, I don't think I'm

816
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: going to make it. And I guess his conscience was

817
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: bothering him because he had to get something off of

818
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: his chest.

819
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: He decided that's right, as happened. Sometimes you hear about

820
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: this in prison, when someone is dying or something in

821
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: jail or in prison, they will admit to other crimes.

822
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened in this case. When he

823
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: told the prison guard, Hey, come over here, and the

824
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: guy came over there and he was like, I actually

825
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: murdered Joyce Goodner back in nineteen ninety five. I'm dying

826
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: and I just had to get this off my chest.

827
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, I killed somebody. I beat her to death.

828
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: The guard said that was James Tomlinson, who was the guard.

829
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: He just happened to be the closest person and that

830
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: would have probably been that had James Washington died, but

831
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: he actually took a turn for the better and recovered.

832
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: And when it became clear to him that he wasn't

833
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: going to die, he said, you remember that thing that

834
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: I confessed to you. I want to go ahead and

835
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: recant that.

836
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they said, no, takes these back siaes. No,

837
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: we suspected you to begin with. Apparently this was in Nashville,

838
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: and they knew that he had met with Goodner on

839
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: the day of her murder. He was a person of

840
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: interest in the case, but they just didn't have enough

841
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: to press charges against and it was an unsolved case.

842
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: But he confessed and they said, all right, I'm glad

843
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: you're feeling better. Let's just add a life sentence to

844
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: your already long sentence.

845
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he got convicted of it for his own

846
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: confession that he couldn't take back, and he didn't die.

847
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty ironic. He didn't die, So got

848
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: life in prison. That's right, You got anything else? We

849
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: want to do it? Three or four more of these.

850
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is when we were about a

851
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: third of the way through and it was not much

852
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: was happening, I was like, oh, you know what we'll

853
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: do maybe at the end, we'll just do some recommendations,

854
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: like so many podcasts do that, like what they've been

855
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: reading or watching. Yeah, I said, maybe we'll just throw

856
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: that in there for fun, and then we ended up

857
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: organically doing it kind of in the last third.

858
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you introduce the thought of doing recommendations in

859
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: the first act, you have to shoot it all in.

860
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: That's what they said.

861
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: Well done, Thanks well.

862
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: Chuck said, well done everybody, And that means I want

863
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: to finish on a high note, which means it's time

864
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: for listener mail.

865
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna call this I don't know. This

866
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: is just sort of a funny email from one of

867
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: our listeners about the white dog poop. Hey, guys, my

868
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: son is a regular listener. He tells me about your podcast,

869
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: and he thinks I would like NICs And what guy

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Speaker 2: do you know that doesn't like to joke about poop?

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Speaker 1: But not many, not many.

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Speaker 2: I never thought about the change and the color of

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Speaker 2: dog poop and the hardness until you pointed it out.

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Speaker 2: But I do remember when I was in the fifth

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Speaker 2: grade in nineteen fifty five. This is one of our

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Speaker 2: elder states persons getting in a white dog poop fight

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Speaker 2: with one of our neighbors, Jerry. He had a big

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Speaker 2: black dog and his next door neighbors had a big boxer,

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Speaker 2: so there were massive amounts of white dog poop in

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Speaker 2: both yards. I had an advantage because I wasn't wearing oh,

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Speaker 2: because I was wearing gloves, and Cherry wasn't. The dog

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Speaker 2: poop we were throwing was white and hard. I don't

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Speaker 2: remember who won. It stopped when we ran out of

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Speaker 2: white poop. The fight probably resulted in a tie. Laughing

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Speaker 2: crying emoji. And that is from dear listener Alan White

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Speaker 2: and Alan, this just struck me as very cute and

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Speaker 2: funny and kind of perfect for this episode.

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Speaker 1: That is a great, great, great email. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Who was it that was, Alan, Alan, that's a great one. Alan.

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Speaker 1: That's the great thing about growing up at that age.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: You used to be able to throw poop at one another,

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Speaker 1: and some kids wouldn't even wear gloves when they did

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Speaker 1: it like that. It was just that kind of lucy,

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Speaker 1: goosey time, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not like these coddle kids these days with their

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Speaker 2: poop gloves.

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Speaker 1: Now they wear two pairs of gloves when they throw poop. Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot. If you want to be like Alan

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Speaker 1: and reminisce with us, we love that kind of stuff.

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