1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. I am in New York. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Fox has the Yankees Red Sox series opener tonight. But 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: we're not just going to talk about the Yankees in 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Red Sox. We've got realignment, We've got Kyle Tucker, We've 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: got dudes in dorks. We've got your questions as well. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: So Alana, greetings, I hope you're doing well. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: It's good to see you. 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: You're in New York, I'm in Boston. Do we have 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: a rivalry? I am not sure, but Ken, the rivalry returns. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: How much juice is there with this series beginning? 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Alana, It's a really good question, and I like the 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: way Chris Kirshner put it in The Athletic this morning. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: In his mailbag. He thinks that this is the most 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: meaningful meeting between the Yankees and Red Sox since the 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Wildcard game, and I would tend to agree. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Both currently in wildcard position, Yankees at the top of 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the standings based on their recent run, and the Yankees 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: have closed by winning seven of eight too, with a 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: four games of the Toronto Blue Jays in the Al East, 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: so things are heating up. The Red Sox need to 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of start getting going again. They're three to seven 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: in the last ten, have not played well of late. 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: They've made some moves in advance of this series, some 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: pretty interesting moves. They send down Isaiah Campbell, bringing Richard Fitz. Now, 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Richard Fitz has been a starter his whole career, but 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: it appears for now the Socks are going to use 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: him out of the bullpen at least in this series. 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: And then just today it was reported that the Socks 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: also have designated Abraham Toro for assignment. He gave them 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: some good playing time at first base until kind of 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: fading after the All Star break, and they've brought back 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: David Hamilton. Now, David Hamilton gives them additional speed for 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: this series so they can pressure the Yankees. And David 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Hamilton also plays second base, and perhaps that will enable 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: the Socks to move to Don Rafaela playing more in 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: center field, where he is so brilliant. Rafaela has struggled offensively. 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's related to moving back to the infield. I 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: don't know, but this is going to be a really 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: interesting series for sure. Alana. 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: Does it solve their issue? 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Though? 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: At first base, Ken we're talking about the Boston Red Sox. 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: Obviously there was a platoon situation there between Abraham Toro 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: and romy Gonzalez, especially when you know there was a 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 3: left hander on the hill. Romey Gonzalez, though, is starting 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: to play against right handers as well. Rob Refsnyder is 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: on the il. What is the plan for the Socks 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: at first Well. 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: The signing of Nathaniel Low changes everything for the Red Sox, 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: and that really is what led to the move with Toro. 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: So the other night, Low at the game tying home 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: run in the ninth inning, it would have been a 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: huge moment if the Red Sox had won that game. 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: They did not, So now going forward, they've got Low, 56 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: They've got Rome Gonzalez in the mixed. Roman Gonzalez also 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: play second. Once ref Schneyder is healthy, he'll be in 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the equation as well. What they are clearly trying to 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: do here as we enter the final six weeks of 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: the season is put their best team on the field, 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: and that is the goal here and with these moves, 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: that is clearly the intention, and it's going to be 63 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: interesting to see the lineup tonight. It's going to be 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this plays out going forward, both 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: at first base, at second base, and in center field. 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: There shouldn't be a both there. There's three positions, all 67 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: three of those positions, and. 68 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: You know Roman Anthony ken is going to be in 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: that lineup for the Red Sox, a big extension for him. 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: He wrote about it currently in the Athletic This kid 71 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: is way beyond his years in terms of maturity and 72 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: specifically played discipline. 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I wrote about Alana. And it's interesting 74 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: to me that this kid just turned twenty one in 75 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: May and is unphased by everything that he has encountered 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: so far. And I am sure quite certain he will 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: be unphased by playing at Yankee Stadium. He's going to 78 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: be a centerpiece of this rivalry for the next eight 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: or nine years at least, and Yankee fans, I'm sure 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: are going to come to dislike him. But it's hard 81 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: to dislike this guy. He's kind of quiet on the field, 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: doesn't show much emotion at all, just plays really well 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: a really high level and yes, play discipline. In this column, 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I wrote Alex Cora compared him, Wait didn compare him 85 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: to Barry Bonds. He said, I can't compare him to 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, but he kind of thought maybe like an 87 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: early Wan Soto. And that's high praise obviously for Roman Anthony. 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: And I love the fact that you talked to Alex 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: kra about this, and he said that when they told 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: Roman Anthony Ken that he was going to start the 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: season in Triple A, he shook Alex Korra's hand. He said, 92 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: I'll see you soon, and Alex Corr was like, I'm 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: sure you will, and sure enough, Roman Anthony had to 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: wait until June. But it's been a good change ever since. 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: Aaron Boone and Aaron Judge, what more can you tell 96 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: us about the disagreement, if you will, in the throwing 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: ability of Aaron Judge right now? 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Well, it seems that Aaron Boom when he said that 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: Judge might not throw the way he normally throws for 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, was kind of getting ahead 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: of himself, and Judge quickly corrected him. I don't know 102 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: that this is going to be any issue. Those two 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: are very close. But the real question is when does 104 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge get back into the out field. And I 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: don't know that it will happen this series. I would 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: not be surprised if it did. He has been throwing, 107 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: and clearly, when you're playing with some kind of elbow issue, 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit dicey at times. 109 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: But fully, the full expectation of the Yankees, I should say, 110 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: is that he will be back in right field. Then 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: you have judge and right Grisham and center, Bellinger and left. 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: That's a really good defensive outfield. And that's where the 113 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Yankees are heading with this. 114 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the New York Yankees a 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: little bit more. Can their schedule stiffens beginning this weekend? Obviously, 116 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: the Red Socks are trying to make the postseason team. 117 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: The Yankees obviously are doing the same. It's not going 118 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: to get much easier for them going forward. 119 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: It won't for this particular period, but going forward totally. 120 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: When you look at Fangrafts and the remaining strength of schedule, 121 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: they actually have the Yankees as the easiest remaining strength 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: of schedule based on a couple of different factors. Now, 123 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: other websites Alana don't have them with the easiest, but 124 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. And they end the season with 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: a pretty easy schedule with a number of non contenders. 126 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: So the Red Sox after this series, play I believe, 127 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: five straight series against non contenders and they're going to 128 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: have some different teams that they play to that are 129 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: more competitive. So well the Yankees. The Yankees play each 130 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: of the division leaders one series each remaining this season. 131 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: So it's funny we talk about schedule all the time. 132 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I talk about it constantly, but it really depends on 133 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: which teams are playing the best at that particular time. Now, 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: it certainly helped the Yankees to beat up on these 135 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: three sellers as they did in these last three series, 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: but they've got to play well to win games. We 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: know that. We've seen that with them, So that really 138 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: is their challenge here to play at a high crisp level, 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: something that they haven't always done, regardless of who the 140 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: opponent is. 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about that. It's going to be interesting 142 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: to see how many teams in the Al East can 143 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: get into the postseason. As far as that picture is concerned, 144 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: Let's talk about another topic here, unfair territory with Ken Rosenthal, 145 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: where there is a lot to unpack, and that is 146 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: realignment and a lot of folks have been talking about 147 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: this ken for a long time. 148 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: What is the latest. The latest day is Rob Manford 149 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: went on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball and of course talked 150 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: about the possibility of expansion, which would lead to realignment. 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: Now it's important to note as Jason Starke did this 152 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: morning in The Athletic in a really good article that 153 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: gave a lot of context to the situation. Basically, Jason 154 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: starts by saying this isn't close. None of it is close, 155 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: not expansion, not realignment, and not, as he mentions here, 156 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the possibility of the schedule shrinking. And Jason makes some 157 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: very good points in that article about why the schedule 158 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: could shrink if the sport indeed goes to thirty two teams, 159 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: That too, is a discussion to come. But the realignment 160 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: conversation is one that got fans really excited or I 161 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: would say intrigued, because obviously it would lead to major implations. 162 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: It might lead to the sport looking unlike the way 163 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: it has looked for quite some time now. So there 164 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: have been a couple of proposals thrown out there. Let's 165 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: get into them, all right. 166 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: So if you think about the proposal from Jim Bowden, 167 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: two years ago. Let's look at that one first, because again, 168 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: this has been talked about for quite some time, and 169 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: there's a bunch of realignment when it comes to where 170 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: teams are going. But moreover, where are the new teams going. 171 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: To be housed? Right? 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: Is it going to be Nashville? Is it going to 173 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: be Charlotte? Like, that's a whole other picture too, in 174 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: terms of another piece of this puzzle. 175 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Can a lot? It sure is, And you make a 176 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: great point, we don't even know who the expansion teams 177 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: are yet. Is it Charlotte? Is at Nashville in the east? 178 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Is it Salt Lake City? Is it Portland in the west? 179 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Are there other cities that are perhaps in the mix 180 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: that we don't even think about or haven't even considered yet. 181 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe so. But all of this will depend 182 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: on where those expansion teams end up. Games proposal, what 183 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: he brought about a couple of years ago, basically is 184 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: done purely on geography and natural rivalries. So you see, 185 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the Midwest division would have the Cubs, White Sox, Brewers, 186 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and the Twins. They're all rivals. Even the Brewers and 187 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: the Twins have a rivalry. Southwest Astros Royals, Cardinals, Rangers, 188 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Pacific Coast down that Rockies don't belong on this Pacific coast, 189 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: but it doesn't always work perfectly. Colorado, the Athletics wherever 190 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: they might be, Seattle, San Francisco. Then the Western Division Arizona, 191 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: the Angels, the Dodgers, and the Padres. That makes a 192 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: ton of sense. And then you go to the East. 193 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: This would be an amazing division. The Red Sox, Mets, Yankees, 194 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and Phillies, the North Reds, Guardians, Tigers, Blue Jays, and 195 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: you see the others as well. Mid Atlantic with the Orioles, Charlotte. 196 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe it's Nashville, Pittsburgh and Washington, and the Southeast Atlanta, Nashville, 197 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Miami. Another one that makes a lot 198 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of geographic sense. Now that's that's an interesting proposal, no 199 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: question about it. But what I liked a little bit 200 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: better because it kept the leagues kind of more intact, 201 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: was what Stephen Nesbit suggested in the Athletics the other day. Now, 202 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: what Stephen doesn't have that Jim does are the Mets 203 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: and Yankees and the Dodgers and Angels and all those 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: teams necessarily in the same divisions. He did it more 205 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: like the way the leagues are currently constructed. I'm not 206 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: going to read all the names here, but you can 207 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: see them. And in the East, for example, he doesn't 208 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: have the Mets and Yankees together, but he has the Mets, Phillies, Pirates, 209 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: and Nationals. And then another example for him that would 210 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: be interesting would be in the West the Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Padres, 211 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: and Giants. No Angels, but you have the four natural 212 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: remaining n L West rivals. It's sort of the same 213 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: in the American League the way Steven has it laid 214 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: out East kind of preserved the way it is now 215 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: without Tampa Bay, every other team is in there. And 216 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: in the West it's a little bit different. The A's 217 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: wherever they might be, the Angels, saw Lake City or Portland, 218 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: plus the Mariners, and you can see the North and 219 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: South divisions there too. Now the question is going to 220 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: be if this all comes to pass, and again we're 221 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: not close yet. We're not close to expansion, we're not 222 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: close to realignment. But if it does come to pass, 223 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: then at that point Rob Manford, whoever is Commissioner of 224 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: Baseball at that point, will have to decide, Okay, do 225 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: we want to sort of preserve the leagues or do 226 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: we want to go just pure geography and natural rivalries. 227 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: That's the decision. But again, we're talking about something that 228 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: is years away. A lot of fun for us to 229 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: talk about, no question, but we're not there yet. 230 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: Okay, do you have a different opinion or different solution? 231 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: Do you or do you have a preference and how 232 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: important is it to you, Ken Rosenthal to preserve the rivalries. 233 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a preference. I would lean a little 234 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: bit toward Nesbitz, but I understand Boden's And I understand 235 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Bodens because if you're a met Yankee fan, if you're 236 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: a White Sox Cubs fan, if you're a Dodgers Angels fan, 237 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: you want to see those teams and you want to 238 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: see them in the same division. I assume not everyone 239 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: would agree. No one ever agrees entirely on anything, but 240 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: that would be the appeal of Jim's proposal. I kind 241 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: of lean towards Stevens a little bit, and that's where 242 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: I am with it. I don't have my own proposal. 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I've not sat around thinking about this too much, but 244 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: it is cool to imagine what might be and then 245 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: of course, if you have a reduced schedule, as Jason 246 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: suggests this morning, what would be the point of that, Well, 247 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: mathematically it might work better with thirty two teams, and 248 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: the other point would be more playoffs. I don't know 249 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: that we need more playoffs. I don't know that Baseball 250 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: agrees with me on that. 251 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to have to find a way to 252 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: make up the revenue if it is only one hundred 253 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: and fifty four game regular season, so perhaps expanded playoffs 254 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: are the play I do think it's funny, though, that 255 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: Colorado would be in the Pacific Coast Division if it 256 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: were to be new divisions, because some would argue Ken Rosenthal, 257 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: me not you, that Colorado doesn't even belong in Major 258 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: League Baseball. 259 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay, boom boom, we don't have relegations. If we ever 260 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: get your relation. 261 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, although they have taken two of three so 262 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,359 Speaker 3: far from the Los Angeles Dodgers, but that's for another conversation. 263 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: All right, get your questions in for Grill and Ken. 264 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: It's fair territory continues here on all of our different networks. 265 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. We're going to take a quick break 266 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: and we'll be right back ft FAM. 267 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: When you're playing games, you kind of have some stress anxiety. 268 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 4: Teammates need somebody something to help. 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I 293 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: don't trust and believe in my Mets. Armond is obviously 294 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: a big Met fan. 295 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: Armand might have a point. Now. The Mets lead the 296 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Reds by one game for the final wildcard spot. If 297 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: you had to pick this based on starting pitching, you 298 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: would pick the Reds Winter Green, Lindolo, everything that they 299 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: have Andrew Abbott. That's a stronger rotation than the Mets 300 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: are offering right now. Single last night again not great, 301 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: and David Peterson really has been their only consistent starter. Now, 302 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: perhaps Norm McClain, will Nolan McClain not Norm, will give 303 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: them something that they've been looking for, and perhaps they'll 304 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: bring up some of their younger prospects as well in 305 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: addition to McLain to kind of fortify themselves. But they 306 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: still have the lead. They don't have as good a 307 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: run differential as the Reds. For whatever that is worth. 308 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I just trust that their players, their position players. In 309 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the end will carry them, but I'm not convinced of that. 310 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: And the Reds rotation is dangerous, and if the Reds 311 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: get in, they're dangerous for that reason. And their offense 312 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: has been a little bit better of late, so armand 313 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: I would say that I cannot give you words of 314 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: comfort here. I'm not so sure this is going to 315 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: go exactly the way the Mets want it. 316 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: Is that the biggest collapse in your opinion of the season, 317 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: ken considering if they don't make the postseason, considering all 318 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: that was put into in the offseason, obviously Wan Soo, 319 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: all of the different things. I mean, that would be 320 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: an epic fail, would it not? 321 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: It would? And in fact, my friend Joel Sherman and 322 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: your friend as well, Alana, wrote a column recently basically 323 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: asking the question, would this be the most disappointing Mets 324 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: season in history? Now there's some competition there for most 325 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: disappointing season in Met's history, but the mere fact that 326 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: Joel would be asking that question in Juan Soto's first 327 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: year with the team and a year when they've resigned 328 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo, that is troubling alone. And we'll see what 329 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: happens here. I still expect the Mets big players Alonzo, Sodo, Lindor, 330 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, to step up, and certainly the loss of 331 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Alvarez for however long it is behind the plate, hurts them. 332 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: I just see their position club as being stronger than 333 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: the Reds, and that's the question I have with the Reds. 334 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: Will they score enough to support that rotation? Now? 335 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: The fact that the Reds are even in the conversation 336 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: is fun. I'm not certain that I would have put 337 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: the Reds in the postseason picture. Good for Cincinnati. Another 338 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: question on Grill and Ken in regards to realignment. Of course, 339 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: a lot of folks want to talk about this because 340 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: it's been a topic of conversation for some time. Bernie Suarez, 341 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: in what world would it make sense to have the 342 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: Dodgers and Giants in different divisions, preserving those rivalries? Bernie 343 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: wants to. 344 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: Know, Bernie, not my world that I don't believe in 345 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: Alana's world either would that makes sense. So I don't 346 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: know which proposal had that, but I hear you, man, 347 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: and certainly the balance here. The trick here, if we 348 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: ever get to this point, will be for major League 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Baseball to preserve what is good Dodgers, Giants, Dodgers Padres 350 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: for that matter, while still doing this realignment, which basically 351 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: is all revolving around geography anyway, So why would you 352 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: not have the Dodgers, Giants, Padres, and Diamondbacks all playing 353 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: each other. I would rather have that than Dodgers' Angels, 354 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: for instance, in the same division. So I'm with you 355 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: on that. Put it that way, I agree. 356 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: I think the rivalries are important for the sport and 357 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: obviously just for the history of this great game of ours. 358 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: Next question on Grill and Ken is from Craig Osterberg. 359 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Craig, Well, pitching or decide these divisional races. 360 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: That's a good one, asking a general question here, and 361 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: it's a good one. I'm not exactly sure how you 362 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: can break down each one along these lines, because I'm 363 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: sure pitching will decide some. It may decide the NL 364 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: wild Card, for instance, as we just discussed, and I 365 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: would imagine hitting will decide some others. For instance, if 366 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: the Yankees slug their way to the Aleast title and 367 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays don't start playing better again, that could happen. 368 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: A lot of things gonna happen, So I'm not exactly 369 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: sure how to answer that, but basically, put it this way, 370 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: the team with the best combination is going to be 371 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: a really good shape. 372 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: Who do you think has the best combination? 373 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: Milwaukee has had a good combination, There's no doubt about that. 374 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: And they're pitching, in my view from a national standpoint, 375 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: gets a little overlooked at times because we all dwell 376 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: on their offense and the cool things that they do, 377 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the way they generate and manufacture runs. But if they 378 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: get mis going again and he struggled a little litle 379 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: bit yesterday again, then there will be a formidable combination 380 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: for sure. And then you look at the Phillies as well. 381 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: The Phillies had an incredible offensive series against Seattle. Trey 382 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Turner is ridiculously hot, seven straight three hit games. Match 383 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Gel wrote about that today in The Athletic and the Phillies, 384 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: even without Wheeler, if Ranger Suarez pitches the way he 385 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: did the other night, if Christopher Sanchez keeps it up, 386 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: you have the makings of a dynamic playoff rotation with Lozardo, 387 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: with Aaron Nola possibly getting back in things too. So 388 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: they've got some possibilities there. They're going to be an 389 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: interesting team in the playoffs. 390 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: Man, the National League is so interesting because there's so 391 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: many good teams. You just don't know which way it's 392 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: going to go. I think a definite easier path is 393 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: in the junior circuit. All right, much more to come 394 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: here on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. We appreciate the 395 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: questions on Grill and Ken, but next we are talking 396 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 3: dude and dork of the week. 397 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: Right after this, Okay, Kratz. I opened up Arena Club, 398 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: put my own money in there, and I wasn't gonna 399 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: go big. 400 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: I know. 401 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: We went over the Ruby pack a week ago. This 402 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: time I just went for the low level pack, where 403 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: it's an easy entry point twenty five bucks. You can 404 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: get yourself a big boy card. The Grail has many 405 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: good options. I slice open the pack. We're looking at 406 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: it if you're watching us right now, and I pull 407 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: a card from the nineteen fifties. Super cool. I enjoyed 408 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: the experience looking at it. It's Jim Gilliam, It's the 409 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: top set from the mid fifties. 410 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: It's cool. 411 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: It's a Brooklyn Dodger. But it's worth more than the card. 412 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm going to sell it back. 413 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: I got twenty eight bucks instantly, so I can buy 414 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: another one of those packs and try and get what 415 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: I want. 416 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, the excitement I heard Kip say before. The excitement's 417 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 4: in the chase. You sold it back. Now you get 418 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: to open another one. I enjoy when you slide it 419 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: across the screen there and the pack opens. 420 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: You know where to go. Arenaclub dot com slash foul 421 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: twenty percent off your first slab Packer card purchase. Get 422 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: after it, dude, dude, dude. 423 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: All right, where You're nearing the end of the month 424 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: of August, almost to September. The tide is turning, the 425 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: calendar is turning, the leaves are changing a little bit. 426 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: Who is your dude of the week this week. 427 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: Holana, It's going to be the Yankees for hitting nine 428 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: home runs against the Tampa Bay Rays on Tuesday night. 429 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: They came within one of the major League record. But really, 430 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm only naming the Yankees dudes so I can get 431 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: into another story. And the other story is the record 432 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: that actually was set in nineteen eighty seven, in my 433 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: first year on the beat at Toronto's Exhibition Stadium by 434 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays against the Orioles ten Homers and Hank Peters, 435 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: and the Oils general manager later made an instructional video 436 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: out of that night for the Oriols minor leaguers. He 437 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: called it the Barrage. He said, this is the lesson 438 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: on not how to pitch, on how not to pitch. 439 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: So that is a very distinct memory for me. The 440 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: next day, I'm twenty four years old. I'm on the 441 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: beat against Tim Kirkhi and Richard Justice, two of the 442 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: great beat writers in the country. Tim, of course, still 443 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: one of the most formidable baseball experts in our game. 444 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: And I walk into cal Rican Senior's office. He's the 445 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: manager at the time. I was terrified and I asked him, Cal, 446 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: after last night, the team's on its way to ninety 447 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: five loss, as it turns out, are you worried about 448 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: getting fired? I was terrified of what he might say, 449 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: and he said, we just put on one of the 450 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: most embarrassing displays in Major league history. Of course, I'm 451 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: worried about getting fired. That record still stands. The Yankees 452 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: challengehip but didn't get there. But they're the dudes of 453 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: the week. 454 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad that Cal Ripken Senior was kind to you 455 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: in that moment, He's like, of course, I'm worried about 456 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: getting fired. What a story, Ken, And you've been doing 457 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: it at the highest level ever since. Okay, my dude 458 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: of the week is another journalist to have a tremendous 459 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: amount of respect for Nick Pikoro, who of course writes 460 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: for the Arizona Republic. He has covered the Diamondbacks for 461 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: two decades, you know, doing all of the necessary dirty work, 462 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: and unfortunately he's getting dragged in the process a little bit. 463 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: He recently had an article in the Arizona Republic on 464 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: Katel Marte about how there was a little bit of 465 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: discourse perhaps and seemingly katel Marte asking for some time 466 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: off in a various in certain times of the season 467 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: where perhaps there was a little bit of discord amongst 468 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: his teammates. Obviously, Ken, I don't think a story like 469 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: this comes out without basis, and certainly with a tremendous 470 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: amount of research and the need for it to come out. 471 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: This is not something that Nick, I would imagine, just 472 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 3: heard about in terms of rumblings or without legitimate sources. 473 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: This is something that I'm sure he's worked on for 474 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: a period of time. But of course fans are now 475 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: upset about the story and perhaps wondering if katel Marte 476 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: is going to be traded, if Tory Lavello is too 477 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: easy on him, you know, just starting some negative conversations. 478 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: I guess about the Diamondbacks clubhouse. But that is Nick's 479 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: job as a reporter, and he has earned the right 480 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: and has the resume to write something like this, perhaps 481 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: without being questioned about the integrity of the article. I'm 482 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: interested because you, as as a beat writer and someone 483 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: that is a baseball columnist for a long time, knows 484 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 3: how difficult it is to be in the clubhouse day 485 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: in and day out. What is your take on this? 486 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Well, I said this on a foul territory the other day. 487 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you a lot of one thousand percent on this. 488 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: And here's a message to fans. You say you want 489 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: to know about your teams, Well, you can't only know 490 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: about the good things about your teams. We're not out 491 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: there to be cheerleaders. If you want a certain kind 492 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: of reporting positive for the team all the time, I 493 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: can direct you to certain websites that will do that 494 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: for you. That is not the job of a journalist. 495 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: The job of a journalist is to tell you what's 496 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: going on, good or bad. So you can't say I 497 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: want to know as much as possible about my team, 498 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: but then say, well, I'd rather not know this or that. 499 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: And you know what, what Nick wrote is not going 500 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: to destroy the Diamondbacks. What could tell Marte was doing 501 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: at the Diamondbacks and he apologized for it so or 502 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: at least some of it. So when he apologizes for it, that, 503 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: as I said on FT, further legitimize the story. And 504 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: it's a really good choice for due to the week. 505 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Nick took too much crap for this. 506 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nick is a very good journalist and he's a 507 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: colleague of ours, and I stand behind that when I 508 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: say that he is an unbelievable professional. Okay, time now 509 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: for dork of the week. All right, Ken, who do 510 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: you have for your dork? 511 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: This troubles me a little bit because I like this guy. 512 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: I know him a little bit, Victor Roblos, and he's 513 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: dork of the week for throwing the bat and getting 514 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: the ten game suspension. Now, there were extenuating circumstances, as 515 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: he pointed out in his statement of apology. He's coming 516 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: off a left shoulder separation, he's missed most of the year. 517 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: He's been very frustrated about that. He recently lost his mom, 518 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: and he was hit in three of his first four games. 519 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: And he also had a history with the pitcher Joey Estes, 520 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: who had hit him in the So all of these 521 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: things are true, and all of these things help explain 522 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: why you see Robust reacting the way he did. There 523 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He still can't throw a bat. And I 524 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: don't know that Victor Robos would disagree with me naming 525 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: him dork of the Week. 526 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Mine is a guy that decided that he couldn't 527 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: get enough either fantasy football or he really needed to 528 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: make sure that his boss could reach him at all time. 529 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: Mine man at the game at Wrigley bringing his laptop, 530 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: and not only can did he bring his laptop, he 531 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: brought his mouse. Do you not have a computer that 532 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 3: at least has a mouse on the keyboard itself? What 533 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: are we doing? I mean again, if he's working on 534 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: his fantasy baseball league or getting ready for his football draft, 535 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: no problem. But if you're actually working, maybe you should 536 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: not be in a place where your boss can find 537 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: you on the JumboTron. It's like going to a cold 538 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 3: play concert. 539 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: All right. 540 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: Thank you everybody for being a part of Fair Territory 541 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: with Ken Rosenthal. 542 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. 543 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching. 544 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 4: Ken. 545 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: We'll be back on Sunday night with the brand new episode. 546 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 3: Bet MGM is giving you the chance to win a 547 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: prize every day during the baseball season. Step into the 548 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: batter's box for betmgms Swing for the Fences, free to 549 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: play game. 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