1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome it's verdict to a center. Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: with you. And if you are excited that Joe Biden 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: might be going to prison for classified documents found in 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: an office, well you've got to be disappointed. I just, senator, 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: is this whole story? I'll give you my theory. I 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: think that they have set this up to say, look 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: at how you should handle this. This will be used 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: as precedent to then say Donald Trump, as a horrible person, 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: deserves to be indicted and even go to jail for this. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: This has been done too perfectly. And I'll ask you, 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: as a former i'd say former lawyer, practicing lawyer, when 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: was the last time you hired a lawyer to move 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: your office like a as a mover. And he's like, oh, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: my lawyers were packing up an office, an old office. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't buy that for a second. Well, to be fair, 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: my wife Heidi has used me to move office more 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: than once, but that's more a matrimonial thing. Get a professional. Yeah. Look, 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: let me start out by saying, when this news broke, 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: I immediately jumped on Twitter and tweeted a very simple tweet, 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: convene a grand Jury's like it now I don't actually 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: mean convene a grand jury. But the reason I tweeted 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: it is because if you're a leftist, if you're a journalist, 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: if you're a Democrat, if you're an operative, if you're 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: one of the gazillion Twitter trolls that are out there, 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: and you see that convene a grand jury, make your 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: head explode. So you've got to say, no, f and wait, 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: do not convene a grand jury because and I really 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: wanted to hear the becauses. I really wanted to hear 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: why Lefty's explaining why we should not convene a grand 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: jury and listen, this episode I think demonstrates absolute and 31 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: complete hypocrisy. This episode demonstrates one of the things that 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: you and I said on this podcast when the Marlaga 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: raid happened, when the media was hyper ventilating over Oh 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: my goodness, there were documents and Trump's archives. Every president 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: of modern times has had documents, and there's been an 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: ongoing back and forth. When presidents leave, they take documents, 37 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: They write autobiographies, they write memoirs, they write books. This 38 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: has been true with George W. Bush, This has been 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: true with Bill Clinton. This has been true with Barack Obama, 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: and you know what, this is true with Joseph Robinette 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Biden Jr. The problem here, so you suggested they're doing 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: this is like a it's just too perfect. This story 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: is too perfect. My lawyers are packing at my office. 44 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: We then contacted the authorities immediately. We then went to 45 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: the DJ We followed the protocol. We let them have 46 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: them within twenty four hours. It's too perfect. Okay, So 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, all right, then, please explain 48 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to me what I'm missing. Look, I don't think it's perfect. 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I think the Biden guys are crying and like, oh crap. 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: I think they were packing it up and they discovered 51 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: and they said, oh crap. And they did decide to 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: turn it in. So look, that's the right thing to do. Sure, 53 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: but I don't think this was orchestrated at all. I 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: think this hurts them profoundly. Okay, So where were these documents. 55 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: They were at an organization that is entitled the Biden 56 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement at the University of Pennsylvania. Now, 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: what is the Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, 58 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: among other things? In an institution that has received fifty 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: four point six million dollars in donations from communist China. 60 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: So I want you to think about this, Hunter Biden 61 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: is out doing business with China, making millions of dollars. 62 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: He's earning of dollars and loans on top of that 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: ten percent for the big guy. That big guy would 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: be Joe Biden the president right now. And at the 65 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: same time, China is giving fifty four point six million 66 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: dollars to the Joseph Biden Center at the University of Pennsylvania. 67 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: And it just so happens this center that is being 68 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: funded and very significant part by communists, China has classified 69 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: documents there illegally. I gotta say, if you're a Democrat, 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't care how machievellen you are. I don't care 71 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: how much you're like, Okay, I'm trying to think not 72 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: four dimensional chess, but nine dimensional chess. This is zero 73 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: dimensional chess. This is just a frigging mess. So the 74 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Democrats are not happy about this. But the beauty of 75 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: it is it illustrates the utter and complete hypocrisy of 76 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: the press and all the Democrats because if they explain, 77 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: if they try to dismiss it away, well look, he 78 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: was vice president. He had lots documents. He at things 79 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: in there. You know it. It's part of the natural process. 80 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, this kind of undermines our narrative that 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a master spy committing espionage. By the way, 82 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: you want to know someone who actually committed serious crimes 83 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: with classified documents. Have you ever heard of Sandy Burger? Yeah, 84 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Sandy Burger was Bill Clinton's National security advisor. He went 85 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: into a classified dance, right, classified skiff, which is so, 86 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: have you ever been in a skiff? I've not, Okay, 87 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I've been in a skiff many times. A skiff is 88 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a big secured room with like big heavy metal doors, 89 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: and it's a skiff is designed so like you can 90 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: have you can take no electronics in there. So when 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: you go into a skiff, you gotta give your cell phone, 92 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: you gotta give. I wear a fit bet on my 93 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: rich you gotta give your fit bet. You gotta give 94 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: like everything you have no electronics you go in there, 95 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: and it's designed so the Chinese, so the Russians, so 96 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: no one can penetrate and do surveillance. It's basically a 97 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: steel and concrete box. It's a big room Sandy Burger 98 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: went to a skiff of the National Security Council and 99 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: he found some classified documents that apparently he found problematic. 100 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: And what he did you referenced it. He took the 101 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: documents and stuffed them down his damn pants, literally stuck 102 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: them down his damn pants, and he walked out of 103 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the room and he got caught. Now, listen, if Joe 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Biden were caught with classified documents in his underwear, that 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: would be a bigger problem. To be clear, I'm not sure, 106 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: but okay, only because I know the system's rigged. To 107 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: be clear, we don't necessarily know whether Joe Biden has 108 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: classified documents in his underwear now or not. I don't 109 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: think he would know either. But this is a different scenario. 110 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: And when the Marlaga raid happened, we did a podcast 111 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: where you and I talked about it, and all of 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: the media was clutching their pearls and saying, oh, my goodness, 113 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: is the most horrible thing ever. And I made the point. 114 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: I said, listen, Presidents, when they leave the White House, 115 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: they go to wherever their next location is, they move 116 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of documents out. They are preparing for their 117 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: presidential library. So if you want a library, the Ben 118 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Ferguson Presidential Library, the monument to old Miss Tennis. I 119 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: love it. See now you're making me think of running 120 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: one day. Just for that. I'm kissing up to you 121 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: big time. But look, you take your papers with you. 122 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Now do you take the nuclear codes with you? Know? 123 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Because you're not a moron, right, But you take a 124 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with you because it's your presidency, it's 125 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: your legacy. It is your legacy. You're looking at writing stuff, 126 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: you're looking at history, you're looking at creating a library. 127 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: That's what all presidents do. Now, much of the overheated 128 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: concern I think about Trump was taking what all presidents 129 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: do and exploding it. Why I think this news development 130 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: is so problematic for the mainstream media narrative is, well, 131 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: if Joe Biden did it, either it's a big deal 132 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: and throw as ass in jail, which they're not willing 133 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: to do, or everyone does it and it's not a 134 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: big deal, which we mean Donald Trump's documents are not 135 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: actually a big deal. So that's their problem, and so 136 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: it's why I'm not given to This was a plan 137 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: to show, look how moral we are. I think they 138 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: were like, oh, crap op op o, crap o, crap. 139 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: I think that that was their reaction when they found it. 140 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Did the lawyers pack it up? No, of course not. 141 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: That was my question about the big lie. It's not 142 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: the big lie. It's usually the little lies to get 143 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: you in trouble. I don't believe I had a far 144 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: a boss. It was a very senior lawyer in the government, 145 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: and when I was a baby lawyer fresh at a 146 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: law school. He said, Okay, when you're a senior lawyer 147 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: in the government, often people will come to you and 148 00:08:51,720 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: they'll say, okay, so I've got a dead body. Is 149 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: that a problem? And you're sitting there as the lawyer, what, Yeah, 150 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: We're not a problem, are you? Where are you out 151 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: of your frigging mind? Yes, that is a problem. I 152 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: think what happened here was the same that they had 153 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: people packing up. They're packing up, they're open a box 154 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, oh wait, this says classified at 155 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the top. That's kind of a problem. Let's call somebody. 156 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: They probably first person they calls, not a lawyer, and 157 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: they say, okay, we've got a bunch of documents to 158 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: say classified or top secret or say sci code code. 159 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: We don't know what they said. We don't know what 160 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: they were. I do actually believe them when he says 161 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea what they were. Okay, that believe it. 162 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: But I also believe Joe Biden has no idea what 163 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the classified documents are. They showed him yesterday in the 164 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Oval office. So absolutely believe there's no idea what was 165 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: it penned? But somebody found them. Somebody called someone higher up, 166 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: and at some point someone higher up in the Biden 167 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: organization said, we had a call lawyer, and they call 168 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: lawyer and the law layer says, you've got a dead body. 169 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: What do you mean. Is this a problem? Yes, it's 170 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: a problem. You got a bunch of classified documents. And 171 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: so the lawyers said, okay, we're gonna come over, we're 172 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna look, and we're gonna unpack it. And oh, we 173 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: have classified documents. And by the way, this is what 174 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: lawyers do to fix things, is when they discover it, 175 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: they go call and try to turn it in. So look, 176 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: I get the sort of media narrative of we want 177 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: to show the right way to do it. I mean, 178 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: it's clear it's too perfect. But nobody in their right 179 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: mind would do this this so complicates If the Biden 180 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: Department of Justice tries to indict Donald Trump, they will 181 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: deal with a thousand questions of why are you indicting 182 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Trump for doing what Joe Biden literally the exact same thing. Yeah, no, 183 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: it's so they might say, oh, it's different, it's more, 184 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: and maybe it's true. But at the end of the day, 185 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the broader point that they're trying to criminalize they hate 186 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They don't want him to be elected president. 187 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: They want him permanently ineligible. They are willing to say 188 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: that again because I think people may forget this. The 189 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: whole reason why the FBI, in my opinion, went into 190 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Marlago and the Democrats want this and the dj wanted 191 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: this is because they want to charge him with a crime, 192 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: so that therefore, if he's charged that crime and convicted 193 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: that crime, he would be ineligible to run for office. 194 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: So look, let me be clear, Joe Biden and the 195 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: elected Democrats in Congress and the Democrats in the White 196 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: House hate Donald Trump. They loathe him. They think these 197 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: the embodiment of evil, the deep state that has burrowed 198 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: into the Department of Justice, the FBI, to the CIA, 199 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: to the entire alphabet soup of the federal government hates 200 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, as we've talked about on this podcast a 201 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: bunch of times. My most recent book, Justice Corrupted, talks 202 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: about how the left has weaponized our legal system, how 203 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: they burrowed into it. By the way, for the folksleist 204 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: this podcast. If you haven't bought the book, go buy 205 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: the book Justice Corrupted. It'll walk you through. Look. I 206 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: revere the Department of Justice. I revere our legal systems, 207 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and I am angry that these partisans, starting with Barack 208 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: Obama and even worse under Joe Biden, have turned them 209 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: into political weapons to go after their enemies. But the 210 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: problem is they hate them so much that the ends 211 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: justify their means. So, for example, one of the things 212 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: we know about the ridiculous Russia prosecution as there was 213 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: a senior lawyer at the FBI who fraudulently created a 214 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: fake document and submitted it to a federal court. He 215 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: was prosecuted for this. So this this federal lawyer was 216 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: going after Carter Page, who was a kind of ancillary 217 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: foreign policy advisor the Trump campaign, and the FBI was 218 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: investigating Carter Page because he had talked to suspicious Russians. 219 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: Now you talk to suspicious Russians. That's not unreasonable for 220 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the government to say, why are you talking into suspicious Russians. 221 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: The FBI sent an email to the CIA and said, Hey, 222 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: is this guy, Carter Page one of your guys source? Yeah? Literally, 223 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: is this guy one of your guys and working for you? 224 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: And even to ask that question, they had to have 225 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: been tipped off by somebody. You might want to check 226 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: with the CIA because Carter Page may be their guy. 227 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: And he sends the email, and what does the CIA say? Yes, 228 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: he's our guy, he's our guy. He's doing this for 229 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: the United States of America. He is helping us by 230 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: talking to sketchy Russians. So what does this lawyer for 231 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: the FBI do. He takes the email from the CIA 232 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: and he alters it. He creates a fraudulent counterfeit document, 233 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: and he takes the sentence he was he was a source, 234 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: and he adds the word not to say he was 235 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: not a source. Now, let me tell you this, Ben, 236 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: if you did this in civil litigation, if you took 237 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: a document, a piece of evidence, you altered it to 238 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: make it one hundred and eighty percent one hundred and 239 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: eighty degrees the opposite of what it was, and you 240 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: submitted it to a federal court, you'd be doing hard time. 241 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: And someone would be saying, Benjamin, don't bed over for 242 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the soap. That's just the simple reality. If I did that, 243 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: you don't get to create fraudulent documents and submit him 244 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: to a federal court and get busted and not be 245 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: held accountable for it. And that's what the deep state 246 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: was doing. And so when you look at this their 247 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: degree of loathing for Donald Trump when they went after him, 248 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: the reason for the Marilaga raid is they hate him 249 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: so much they wanted to go They wanted to prove 250 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: him guilty of a crime. But in particularly they want 251 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: to prove him guilty of a crime that renders him 252 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: ineligible to run for or be elected president. Now listen, 253 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: if you're a Democrat, you don't want Donald Trump to 254 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: be elected. Okay, fine, there's a democratic process. You can 255 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: go and try to win at the ballot box. But 256 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: but they're trying to do here has corrupt the justice system. 257 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: And the day of the Marlaga raid, you and I 258 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: did a podcast where I said it ain't gonna work 259 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: if they think some federal Court is gonna say Donald 260 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: Trump can never be president again. The chances of that success, 261 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: I believe are zero point zero percent. Maybe true, you 262 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in the system that when 263 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: you say that there's gonna be good that listen, go, 264 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: how can you say that when they just they just 265 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: rated mar Lago. How can you say that when they 266 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: they made fraudulent documents against Carter Page. How can you 267 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: say that when the FBI director knew that the Steel 268 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: dossier was a source document from the Democrat National Committee 269 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: in Hillary Clinton, and the lawyer was lying to the FBI. 270 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: You got to understand why people are gonna listen to you, going, 271 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: how can you have such confidence that this is never 272 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen when we just witnessed all the things I 273 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: just mentioned. Because at the end of the day, the 274 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: federal courts have not been thoroughly corrupted. Okay, So there 275 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: have been hard partisans that are burrowed into the FBI, 276 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: that are burrowed into the DJ that have correct up 277 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: to justice. That's why I wrote the last book. Look, 278 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I was in two thousand and one. I was what's 279 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: called an Associate Deputy Attorney General in the US Department 280 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,479 Speaker 1: of Justice, and the Department of Justice is an institution 281 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: I respect deeply. It has an incredibly long history of 282 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: being a political I've said before, I don't want a 283 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Republican Department of Justice. I don't want a Democrat Department 284 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: of Justice. You don't want to right leaning or left leaning. 285 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: You want a non party that follows the damn law. 286 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I want an FBI that follows the damn law. If 287 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: you're a child predator, the FBI how to catch you, 288 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: the dog, how to prosecute you. If you're a mobster, 289 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: if you're if you're a money launderer, if you're a 290 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: crack dealer, the DOJ, how to go after the FBI 291 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: go after you. But if you are of the wrong 292 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: political persuasion, and I don't care if whether that is 293 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: right leaning or left leaning, it's not the DOJ and 294 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: FBI's job to go after people on either side. They 295 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: ought to stay the heck out of it. And I 296 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: will tell you, with an enormous frequency, I talk to 297 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: people who are either currently at the FBI of the DOJ, 298 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: or who are alums of the FBI and DOJ. They 299 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: come to me, and particularly the current folks, they're really 300 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: upset because they've spent imagine, Ben, You've spent ten years, 301 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: twenty years, thirty years devoting your life. You believe in 302 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: so life mission, the rule of law. You believe in 303 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: protecting people, you believe in protecting kids. I mean, there 304 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: are so many heroes that work is these institutions, and 305 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: they've seen these rabid partisans take over the senior career 306 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: positions and just corrupt them from within. It's fundamentally wrong. 307 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: And so listen, were there's some documents that should not 308 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: have been at Marlago, perhaps, and the judicial process will 309 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: play out on that. But my point is that's something 310 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: that every prior president is done that when it comes 311 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: to the documentary history and the chain of custody of 312 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: documents from the White House to the former president to 313 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: the former president's library and often their negotiations the archives. 314 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: When you think of the chief criminal law enforcement organizations 315 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: of the United States, the archivists of the United States 316 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: of America is not high on your list. Yeah, and 317 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: historically there have been negotiations and discussions back and forth 318 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: between the archives and former presidents in the libraries, right 319 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: even libraries, because they want to see this stuff, they 320 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: want to have this stuff, and there's these debates that happened. 321 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I remember when when we were I was going to 322 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: the Bush Library opening forty three. There was debate both there. 323 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: We saw each other, Yeah that I didn't actually even 324 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: know each other very well. That was such a cool 325 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: thing because, like I was, I got to be a 326 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: part of that campaign, a part of that administration, and 327 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: there's history that happened. But I remember the debates even then. 328 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: There were a lot of things that happened, specifically with 329 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: the War on Terror Posts nine to eleven that were 330 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: fought over of could the public have it, could the 331 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: library have it, could they see it? Could it be 332 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: in display? Could it be in the in the in 333 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: the library, you know, so you can look it up. 334 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Basically you could go in and see parts of the history. 335 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: And I remember some of those grand debates because some 336 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: people thought the archives were being a little bit over 337 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: zealous and like saying no too often when he's like, look, 338 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: this is part of the history of my administration. This 339 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: needs to be on display for the America. Even every 340 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: foreign president wants to tell that narrative. And they hold 341 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: on too documents and I will say, listen, in my 342 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: time in the Senate. I've read a lot of classified documents, 343 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: and one of the virtues of being the Senate, I 344 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: haven't had this issue because I don't take classified documents 345 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: out of a skiff, so there are no classified documents. 346 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I gotta pull back the curtains so people understand how 347 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: this works, because everybody's gonna want to ask a question 348 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: about to ask you when you become a senator, do 349 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: they teach you the pro to call of classified documents? 350 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: Like right away? Do they explain to you they got 351 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: to stay in the in the in the skiff? Is 352 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: there a skiff in the Senate side? Where can you 353 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: talk about that? And then and then what is the 354 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: protocol for that? Ever? You can't make copy like this 355 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: is pretty simple, okay. So in the Senate at least, 356 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: there's a skiff down in the basement of the Capital, 357 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: so if you're going down there, we go down there 358 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: fairly regularly for briefings, and there are hearing rooms. So, 359 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: for example, I spent six years in the Center Arm 360 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: Services Committee. I'm currently on the Senate Formulations Committee. So 361 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: we regularly have classified hearings in the skiff, and there's 362 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: a hearing room and you go in and they have 363 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: lots of it's actually very funny. They have lots of 364 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: posters that are sort of scary World War two eras 365 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: of somebody talked and people died, and they're sort of 366 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: posters about protect classified information. And you go in and 367 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: I and Evan, maybe I take my iPhone, I hand 368 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: it to Gray, who is with me at all times. 369 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: I handed my iPhone, I handed my AirPods. I don't 370 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: know if air pods are questionable or not, but I 371 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: just give them to them anyway, why not? And I 372 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: give them a fitbit. So you just want no electronics 373 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: because I don't want the Chinese hearing me. Sure, you 374 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: go in and you sit. So if it's hearing, you 375 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: sit in a room and the room is I don't know, 376 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: thirty feet by fifty feet, so it's sort of like 377 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: in a hearing room. It's not that bit. It's not huge, 378 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: but on purpose though, design that way, right. It's down 379 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: in the basement of the Capitol, and it's designed so 380 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: that no listening, no penetration of anything. And you'll have testimony. 381 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: I've been in that room with testimony from the Secretary 382 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: of State at the head of the CIA, the Attorney General, 383 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Defense, or a lot of times you'll 384 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: have testimony from the Assistant Secretary of State, the Assistant 385 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Secretary Defense, and you'll have classified briefings about then, about Ukraine, 386 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: about Russia, about China. So when people to paint that 387 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: picture of I remember after nine to eleven, there was 388 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people that testified on public hearings and 389 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: they would say to the center center, I can give 390 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: you a close classified briefing on that. I can't say 391 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: that publicly. I can certainly give you that answer center offline. 392 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Basically in the skiffs, that's where this room would come 393 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: into play. So I've been to dozens, if not probably 394 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: hundreds of hearings in a skiff where you hear classified information, 395 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: and with some frequency ethose hearings, you're given classified documents 396 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: and they'll have all sorts of markings about the level 397 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: of classification, their lower levels and higher levels of classification, 398 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: and you could read those documents and my general practices, 399 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: I'll read them the skiff and I leave them there. 400 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: There's no issue for me a classified documents because I 401 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: don't take them out. I come in with nothing and 402 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: I walk out with nothing, So there's no issue. Now, 403 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: there are other times where there is, for example, classified 404 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: reports that for some reason or other someone will say 405 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: you should read a classified report. So when I was 406 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: leading the fight against the Nordstream two pipeline from Russia 407 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: to Germany skipping Ukraine, and I passed twice major sanctions 408 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: legislation to stop the pipeline and successfully defeated Russia, defeated Putin, 409 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: there were multiple classified reports about the efforts to build 410 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: that pipeline. I went to the skiff over and over again, 411 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: and I would read reports from the CIA, from the DEI, 412 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: the Director National Intelligence, from different intelligence agents, and I'd 413 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: breathe the reports and I would learn things. But you 414 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: can't go and repeat the reports. There was another instance 415 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: where there no staff member are like, that's literally you 416 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: and other senators and the heads of the CIA that 417 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: you could have those discussions. So I usually have a 418 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: staff member who's a senior staff member who has security clearance, 419 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: who he or she can come in and read some 420 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: classified documents. I've got a higher security clearance than any 421 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: one of my staff. So there's some documents. So sometimes 422 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: a staff member will be able to read some documents, 423 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: but the really classified documents I'm the only one who 424 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: can read, and so it'll vary depends on who's on 425 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: my staff. In the ten years, it's varied who's been 426 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: on my staff. I like to have at least one 427 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: person with a security clearance because it's nice to have 428 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: a staff member who could read through a bunch of 429 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: documents in briefly on it, because the volume of it 430 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: is significant, you know. I remember at one point there 431 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: was a classified document on UFO sightings and I went 432 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: in wanting to see, Okay, what does the government know 433 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: on UFO side. I'm really curious. I've got to say, 434 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: I've never been to Area fifty one. I'm really bummed. 435 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: I've been ten years of the Senate, Like, like, how 436 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: did you get that tour? Like you should sign up 437 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: for that. So I went in and read it. I'm 438 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: not going to repeat anything that was in the briefing 439 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: on UFO sightings. I will just say this. I was 440 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: incredibly underwhelmed. I was like, all excited, give me, little 441 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: green men, tell me stuff. I just laughed and I 442 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh, so there's a whole and in the 443 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: White House, down in the National Security Council, there's a 444 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: whole skiff the security room is a giant skiff. Many 445 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: of the confidential briefings are down there. There's a difference 446 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: between the nuclear codes XB three O two of Yeah, 447 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm making up numbers. So if the prosecutors are coming 448 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: to lock me up, I think XB three O two. 449 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Maybe isn't that the new COVID variant. Did you see 450 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon singing about the new COVID variant? It was 451 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: the most third thing I've ever seen. Dias play a 452 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: clip from Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show, just singing 453 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: about this variant. There was Alpha, Ben, Delta, Ben, almar Cone, 454 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: but this latest variant might be the best. It's x 455 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: BB point one point five. Another brand of Coman nineteen 456 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: has arrived. It's a new strain, but it isn't the same. 457 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Sounds more like Elon Muski's name. Look, I gotta say, Ben, 458 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: I know Jimmy Fallon, which is a little bit bizarre. 459 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel I don't you and Jimmy Fallon and 460 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. I had no idea that you guys had 461 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: this connection to each other like that. So it's an 462 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic. So I've been in the Senate ten years. 463 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: When I first got there, every late night host would 464 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: have senators and national figures on, both Democrats and Republicans. 465 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: It's one of the ways the world has changed. So 466 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: when I was a brand new senator, I was on 467 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Jay Leno, I was on Jimmy Fallon, I was on 468 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, I was on Stephen Colbert Um. It was 469 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: part of the job. In the last five years, I 470 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: don't know of a single one of the late night 471 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: comics that has had a single Republican on there. They 472 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: become left wing shills, I will say, of all of them, 473 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: Fallon was by far the best. Now some of that 474 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: is because Fallon does the Tonight show. Fallon inherited Jay 475 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Leno's audience, and by the way, jay Leno was the 476 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: first one I went on, and I'm like, when I 477 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: went on his show after, do you think it's awesome? 478 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it was like twenty twenty fourteen, I 479 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: was branded in the Senate and I'm like walking out 480 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: going like, holy crap, what am I doing on Jay Leno? 481 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: Like it was weird, that's a big deal. Yeah, it was. 482 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: It was bizarre. So Fallon inheritce jay Leno's audience and 483 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: jay Leno's audiences to night show audience is still much 484 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: of it is with the American Midwest. It's it's it's 485 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: red America, Sure, it's it. And so of them. I 486 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: mean Colbert is viciously left wing. Yes, Um Kimmel has 487 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: become viciously left wing, total disdain for five our country fallon. Look, 488 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: the guy probably leans left. But he's pretty. He's pretty. 489 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: If you had to watch one, that's the one I'd watch. 490 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: So I will tell you an interesting thing. When when 491 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: Jay Leno got cut from late night TV, I was 492 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: a newbie center. I made a phone called you know, 493 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: I called who Rupert Murdoch away? And I called Rupert 494 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: Murdoch and I said, Rupert, let me encourage you. Fox 495 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: should put Jay Leno on late night TV. I actually 496 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: think it is important for America that comedy matters, that 497 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: culture matters, that entertainment matters. And Jay Leno. I don't 498 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: know Jay well. I don't think he's a conservative. I 499 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: assume he's left of center. But he spent years speaking 500 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: to the middle of a America. And so what jay 501 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: Lena would do is he would make fun of both sides. 502 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Of the aisle, and not in a vicious, evil or 503 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: mean wright. He wouldn't be. He wasn't trying to destroy 504 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: your life. By the way, baking fun of Republicans is fine. 505 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: I mean you and I make fun of Republicans like 506 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: if you can't laugh, but it doesn't mean spirited. And 507 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: when I gotta say, when I pitched it to Rupert, 508 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: he kind of laughed at me. He thought he did 509 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: not think it was serious. I still think the country 510 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: would be better off to have. I think comedy is powerful, yes, 511 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: and I think and one of the problems, look, I 512 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: love to laugh. All right. Did I tell you about 513 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Game four of the ALCS Astros against the Yankees? No? 514 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: All right, So Game four of the ALCS was Yankee Stadiums. 515 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: The Astros had won three games in a row. I 516 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: went to Yankee Stadium. Okay, that this idea? Remember, yes, 517 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: but I don't know which story you're going with. But yes, 518 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: it was really fun to watch them because you were 519 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: behind the plate and everybody was freaking out on Twitter, 520 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: which made me laugh. All right. I sat directly behind 521 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: home plate in the second row, so you're right on 522 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: the damn TV shot behind home plate. You were close 523 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: enough you could call the balls and strikes, you could 524 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: practically smell the umpire's cologne. And let's be clear, I'm 525 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: behind home plate and Yankee Stadium in a bright orange 526 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Houston Astro's jersey. There were more than a few Yankees 527 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: fans who suggested that I do something anatomically impossible. Yes, 528 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: most fun I've ever had in my life, because look, 529 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: you're an Astro's fan. You're sweeping the damn Yankee and 530 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: you're you're kicking there they are home. Yeah, it's better 531 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: than almost winning at home that game. Four. Okay, So 532 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: sitting in front of me was Lauren Michaels, the producer Satturday. 533 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: He was directly was the front row, directly behind home played, 534 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: and so kind of midway through the game, I introduced 535 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: myself to Lauren Michaels and I said, you know, Lauren, 536 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: I've been watching Saturday Ight live my entire life. And 537 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: he responded, well, so have I I said, yeah, but 538 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: I started at four. Yeah, like there's an older guy. 539 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm a lot younger than Yes, I literally as a 540 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: little kid grew up. And I did say to him, 541 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to repeat what he said because I 542 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: think that's probably not fair, but I'll say what I said. 543 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: I said, you know, Saturday Night Live was a lot 544 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: funnier before they became so damn political. I like comedy, 545 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: by the way. I like comedy that makes fun of 546 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: Republicans or Democrats. There used to be a time when 547 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: we could laugh. Late night television has been destroyed, but 548 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: of all of them, it used to be Jay Lenna 549 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: was the best. Sadly when he was when he was 550 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: pulled off air, My feudal attempt to convince Rupert Murdock 551 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: to put him on air didn't succeed, so he was 552 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: done and Fallon got on it and he was actually 553 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: was a nice guy. I went on. I did Fallon 554 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Show actually on my daughter Caroline's birthday, her eighth birthday 555 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: was April fourteenth, and it was really cool and we 556 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: did a fun He had a whole skit set up 557 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: where he played Donald Trump and it was the middle 558 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: of the presidential primary. He was calling me and it 559 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: was it was funny and it was a comedy skit. 560 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: It was a comedy skit and he wasn't a jerk. 561 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: So if you watch this skit that we just played, 562 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: the segment from where Fallon is like singing about the 563 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: latest variant of COVID nineteen. My god, late night comedy 564 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: is dead. It's been destroyed, like if you are a 565 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: propagandist for doctor Fauci and for At one point he says, 566 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, make short away a mask and indoor facilities, 567 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: and mind you, Jimmy, Fallon's not wearing a mask. None 568 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: of his staff's wearing a mask. None of the band 569 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: is wearing a mask. But you know what when I 570 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: did the view the day after the Yankees game, Yeah, 571 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: you know who's wearing a mask? Who every single member 572 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: of the audience. They were trying to protect you, sir kay. 573 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: None of the crew of the view, none of the host, 574 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: Whoopie Goldberg, wasn't wearing a mask. But they made every 575 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: single audience member word and look. I wish we could laugh. 576 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: I wish culture wasn't so political. I wish late night comedy. 577 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, let let me give you an 578 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: example of what I think is fabulous comedy. And this 579 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: may get me in trouble with some people. One of 580 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: my favorite movies. You ever see the movie Team America. 581 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh yes, Team America, World Police. Now listen, it is 582 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: raunchy as all get out. I'm gonna I'm gonna admit 583 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: an embarrassing thing. So I love Team America. I took Heidi. 584 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Heidi doesn't like movies as much. She almost fell out 585 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: of the chair laughing so hard. We did a family 586 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: vacation with Heide's parents and we brought a DVD. This 587 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: was a while ago, so it was back when DVDs existed. 588 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: We brought a DVD of Tea Americans. It was so funny, 589 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: and we're playing it to Heide's parents and I guess 590 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I forgot just how profane the movie is. I'm remembering 591 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: it now vaguely, and I do remember. It was like 592 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: a lot of curse works and a lot of politically 593 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: incorrect line but hilarious. Every third word is an F bomb. Yeah. 594 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: And so we're sitting there watching it with their parents 595 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: and Heidi at our newlyweds and her parents literally were 596 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: in a houseboat on Lake Powell out in the middle 597 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: of the wilderness, and Heidi's parents literally got up and 598 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: left because it was so it's funny. But I was like, Okay, 599 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I feel really bad. I didn't mean inflict 600 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: this on my mother In law. Yeah, but look, Team America. 601 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: It is a movie that it ridicules Republicans. Yes, but 602 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: it ridicules democrats. That's actually good comedy. Yeah, good with that. 603 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: At least it's at least it's every equal opportunity offender 604 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: Today Late Night Comedy Today SNL is all about being 605 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: a political mouthpiece and it's not about actually, I give 606 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: you telling jokes. Jerry Seinfeld say, he doesn't just stand 607 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: up anymore because, yeah, but Bill Burr, I don't know 608 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: if you know who Bill, I know who he is. 609 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know him. I think he's very funny, hysterical, 610 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: and if you listen to him, he goes after both sides. 611 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: He was in Houston and we went and I laugh 612 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: because I we went with friends, and my wife is 613 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: the I call it the um, the more judgy one, 614 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I was like, look, I'm gonna 615 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: laugh my tail off, but if you're next to me, 616 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have as much fun. So you're gonna 617 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: sit two seats down. I'm gonna sit next to my buddy, 618 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: and the girls can sit together and the guys can 619 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: sit together. And so she's three seats away. Just so 620 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: I knew I could have a good time. And finally, 621 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes in, I looked down and she's 622 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: dying last thing, and I looked at it. I was like, 623 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: you can't judge me now. You can't judge me now. 624 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: But my point is he was an equal opportunity offender. 625 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: If you listen to his comedy, he'll attack the pets. Great, 626 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 1: and that's what we wish. I love George Carlin. Now listen. 627 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: George Carlin probably would agree with almost nothing that we agree. 628 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 1: Although I say this, George Carlin was an old school liberal, 629 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: so he believed in a free speech. Yes, today's Democrat 630 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: party that was no censor everyone they would hate George Carlin. 631 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: So I kind of hope, and maybe I'm deluding myself 632 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: that Carlin would appreciate the free speech ethos and and 633 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: I've got a pretty strong libertarian sentiment. But Carlin is 634 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: funny as all get out. You go back to Bush, 635 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: and I love where this podcast has gone tonight. This 636 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: is really fun. You go back to Bush and they 637 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: were just relentless. I'm beating up on Bush forty three 638 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: in late night. Yeah, but some of it was funny, 639 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: Like it was even talked about at the White House 640 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: the next day. Obama, they broke it. Yes, Obama, they 641 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: broke it because they couldn't make fun of of of 642 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: who they thought was the chosen one, right and say, well, 643 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: they were so terrified. It's where Late night Comedy look 644 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: SNEL has some of the great Chevy Chase brilliant playing 645 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 1: Gerald Ford falling down. And by the way, Gerald Ford 646 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: is probably the best athlete to ever be President of 647 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: the United States. He was All American University of Michigan 648 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: football player. I didn't know that. I really I didn't 649 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: know he was a serious like that. I don't believe 650 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: there's ever been another All American athlete. He was a 651 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: legit athlete college that like like like the real deal, 652 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: and Chevy Chase fell off of ladders, fell down, and 653 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: the entire country thought of Gerald Ford as a klutz 654 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: and an oath because of Saturday Night Live. You look 655 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: how if you were if you go back in the 656 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: night Saturday A Live and you look at the gaffs 657 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: from Biden. Now we'll play a gaff from today. Great example, 658 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: let's go back to what we're talking about classified documents. 659 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: Let's play this. And I thought he was really on 660 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: point because I think his staff prepped him and said, hey, 661 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: your response these classified documents is incredibly important. You nailed this, 662 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: but even at the end he couldn't hold it together 663 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: very end dies it play? First, Let me get rid 664 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: of the easy one first. People know I take classified 665 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: documents a classifying information seriously. When my lawyers were clearing 666 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: out my office at the University of Pennsylvania, they set 667 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: up an office for me, secure office in the capitol. 668 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: When the four years after being vice president as a 669 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: profession at penn they found some documents in a box 670 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: in a locked cabinet or at least a closet, And 671 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: as soon as they did, they realized there were several 672 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: classified documents in that box, and they did what they 673 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: should have done. They immediately called the archives. Immediately call 674 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: the archives, turned them over to the Archives. And I 675 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: was briefed about this discovery and surprised and learned if 676 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: there are any government records that were taken there to 677 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: that office. But I don't know what's in the documents. 678 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: I've my lawyers have not suggested. I asked what documents 679 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: they were. I've turned over the boxes. They've turned over 680 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: the boxes to the archives and we're cooperating fully, co 681 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: operating fully with the review and which I hope will 682 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: be finished soon and it will be more detail at 683 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: that time. The first question, now I forgot, He's like 684 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: he nailed it, and then but my point is, sati 685 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: question I forgot, And he says, first of all, at 686 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: the beginning, if you're listening us, first of all, first thing, 687 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: and then he doesn't even remember. The first thing was, 688 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: which is what you just did? How Saturday Night would 689 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: have had the time of their lives at this moment. 690 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: But they will not criticize them this week. No one 691 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: in Late Night's going to criticize them for that. I 692 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: don't think to do yet. They'll gently pop Biden for 693 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: being old and senile. I'll give you to do that. 694 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, barely, but not this one. They won't. 695 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: But okay, Obama, he did nothing wrong. And you look 696 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: back from Chevy Chase, torontod Reagan, who they viciously destroyed, 697 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: to to to Bush forty one. Dana Carvey, you remember 698 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: you used to go Nagada, Nagata. In fact, it was 699 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: one of the funniest things. After Bush was defeated, he 700 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: went on Saturday I think it was Saturday Night Live 701 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: or maybe his letterman, I remember what I'm gonna do it. 702 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: He was talking and and Bush forty one said said 703 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: said to Dana Carvey, Nagata, what is that? I don't 704 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: say dot dot. It was funny. By the way, remember 705 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: Dana Carvey not only played Bush forty one, he also 706 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: played Rossi perro yea diet second sound from the South 707 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: Giants second sound. It was ridiculously funny. You look at 708 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: Will Farrell as George W. Bush. Amazing side splittingly funny. 709 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: The entire history of SNL mocking politicians. All Right, Sarah Palin, 710 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: I can see Russia from my porch, do you know? 711 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: Never said that, never said it, but everybody I thought so. 712 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet of our listeners and listen, our 713 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: listeners on this podcast are smart, they're engaged, they're politically involved. 714 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: I'd be willing to bet ninety percent of our listeners 715 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: believe Sarah Palin said I can see Russia from our house, 716 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 1: because almost everybody does. She never said those words. Where 717 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: did those words come from? They were Tina Fey playing 718 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: Sarah Palin on Saturday at Lives, and it was brilliant. 719 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: I can see Russia from my house, and I got 720 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: to admit, look, I consider Sarah a friend. I laughed 721 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: because it was amazing. It was it was ridiculously funny. 722 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: Comedy has been destroyed because a they won't make fun 723 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: of the left, be their relentless partisans attacking anyone on 724 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: the right. And see they're now willing to be shills 725 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: for the authoritarian state. And so when I hear Jimmy 726 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: Fallons saying about the latest COVID variant, it makes me sad. 727 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: It makes me sad for the death of comedy. Yeah, 728 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: because now it's propaganda. It's so your comedy, and it's 729 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: like the thirteenth strike of a clock. It destroys any credibility. 730 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: A comedian ought to have the integrity to say I'm 731 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: going to speak truth to power and not speak power 732 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: to truth. Yeah, I agree with you. There last question, 733 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: back to the documents for a moment this comes out, 734 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: you hear Biden, we just play that clip him trying 735 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: to clean it up. Is there anything that really happens 736 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: with this number one j I'll ignore it, okay. And 737 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: and how big of a saving you believe this is significant? 738 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: Though for Donald Trump? Not in the legal sense, but 739 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: in the public opinion debate sense, it becomes it's why 740 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: I sent the forward tweet convene a grand jury. I 741 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: actually don't think we should convene a grand jury. So 742 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: that tweet was not that was to make them defend it. 743 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: It was to hypocrisy prompt them to give the reasons 744 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: why that shouldn't happen, and president is everything. I do 745 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: think the public narrative has become infinitely complicated by the 746 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: fact that Joe Biden not only did the same thing, 747 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: but did the same thing at a center that received 748 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: over fifty million dollars from communist China that is literally 749 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: being paid for by the Chinese communists. If you think 750 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: of places to store secure classified documents, places being funded 751 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: by the Chinese communist perhaps we shouldn't be on the 752 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: top of your list. Yeah, just promise me, if there's 753 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: ever hearing about this, you will ask what's the hourly 754 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: rate for lawyers to move people? I just have to 755 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: know that. I gotta know what moving coming like, did 756 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: you did you hire that happens to be lawyers? I 757 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: gotta know that question. Well, if you need to move 758 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: your house, I'm gonna tell you right now. I ain't 759 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it, and I'm not, and there it is. 760 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: We'll leave it at that, Senator. It's pleasure we're here 761 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: in DC together. It's always fun to be in the 762 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: nation's capital with you. We will see all of you 763 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: guys back here on two days, so make sure you 764 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: grab our podcasts then and don't forget hit the subscribe button, 765 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: the auto downlotle button. You'll get the podcast automatically for 766 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: free every time we publish, and you never know when 767 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: those extra episodes are gonna pop up, so you don't 768 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: want to miss those. We'll see you back here. Have 769 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: a great week, my friends.