WEBVTT - Takeaways from the 2022 Open Championship

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball.

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<v Speaker 2>In a bride egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>Frida Egg Egg, Fridagg Bride Egg Lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about ready to run off of the hump course.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the Frida Egg Podcast. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Garrett Morrison, and today we have takeaways from the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two Open Championship. So by the weekend at St.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrews it was pretty much the Cameron's versus the Rory's.

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<v Speaker 2>On Saturday, Cameron Smith and Cameron Young started in the

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<v Speaker 2>final group of the day and right in front of

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<v Speaker 2>them were Rory McElroy and his smiley Rwegian doppelganger, Victor Hovelin.

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<v Speaker 2>By the end of the third round, the two pairs

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<v Speaker 2>were flipped McElroy and Hobland at sixteen under and the

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron's four shots back. The phrase match play situation may

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<v Speaker 2>have come up in the Friday newsletter and I may

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<v Speaker 2>have put it there. Look, I thought that the odds

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<v Speaker 2>were that either Rory or Victor would shoot sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>or better on Sunday. That would mean that Smith or

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<v Speaker 2>Young would need to post sixty five or better. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think that either of them would do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely did not imagine that they both would. Cameron Young,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a twenty five year old PGA Tour rookie, deserves

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<v Speaker 2>more treaded for what he did in that fourth round

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<v Speaker 2>than he'll ever get. He shot a seven under sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five that included a three put, a drop from a

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<v Speaker 2>gorse bush, and an eagle tooth on the eighteenth hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Young now has a runner up in the Open to

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<v Speaker 2>go with his T three at this year's PGA Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been quite the rookie campaign. Stretch at the Old Course,

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<v Speaker 2>all eyes were on two players, four time major winner

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<v Speaker 2>Rory McElroy in Australian short game virtuoso Cameron Smith. The

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<v Speaker 2>decisive stretch was the first half of the back nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Rory wasn't making many mistakes, but he also wasn't making

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<v Speaker 2>any putts. After a two putt birdie on the tenth hole,

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<v Speaker 2>he basically stalled out, recording one boring par after another. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Smith reeled off five birdies in a row. He

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<v Speaker 2>hold putts from five feet sixteen feet, eleven feet eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>feet and five feet again en route to a back

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<v Speaker 2>nine thirty. About an hour later, he was the Open champion,

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<v Speaker 2>one stroke ahead of Cameron Young and too clear of

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<v Speaker 2>Rory McElroy. So those are the basic facts to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the deeper storylines of the twenty twenty two Open.

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<v Speaker 2>I have three interviews for you. The first is with

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Weir of Sky Sports to describe that remarkable final

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<v Speaker 2>round up as Joseph Lamannia to discuss what Smith did

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<v Speaker 2>well from a course management perspective and how McElroy fell

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<v Speaker 2>short in the same area. And last up is the

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<v Speaker 2>Friday Egg Zone Andy Johnson to reflect on the old

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<v Speaker 2>course itself. Right, it was a great championship. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to it, all right. I am here with Jamie Weir,

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<v Speaker 2>Sky Sports golf correspondent and somebody who has been known

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<v Speaker 2>to root a little bit in a very classy way

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<v Speaker 2>for Rory McElroy. So first of all, how are you doing, Jamie?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hard one to take that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to remind myself that, however inconsolable I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment. Rory mclury is probably feeling one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>times worse, but Luke A just felt as if this

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<v Speaker 3>was the one. It was kind of almost written in

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<v Speaker 3>the stars. It was his destiny to win this historic

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fiftieth Open at the Home of Golf

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<v Speaker 3>on the week that perhaps Tiger played the Old Course

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<v Speaker 3>for the final time. It just it all seemed too

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<v Speaker 3>perfect and it ended up, you know, it was too

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<v Speaker 3>perfect to be the case because he just got.

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<v Speaker 1>Run doing today by an absolute machine in cam Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Rory macur will be back, but this

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<v Speaker 3>one will be a hard one to take, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to leave a bit of scar tissue.

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<v Speaker 1>Who died. I WoT the full eighth with with Rory

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<v Speaker 1>and with Victor today.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know he hit eighteen greens in regulation and

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<v Speaker 3>had no bobies in a scorecard and had thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Pots and that's kind of the story of the round.

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<v Speaker 1>So a hard one to take.

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<v Speaker 3>But my goodness, hats off when you shit sixty four

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<v Speaker 3>on the Old Course, when you shit thirty on the

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<v Speaker 3>back nine on a Sunday to win an Open championship,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to say that you deserve that Claret jug.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get too deep into the Rory stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to give Cam and Smith his due credit

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<v Speaker 2>for what was one of the great final rounds in

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<v Speaker 2>major championship history. No doubt what. I know you're following

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<v Speaker 2>the final group, but yeah, what what what would be

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<v Speaker 2>your characterization of the way that Cam Smith played the

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<v Speaker 2>Old Course this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just obviously for those that have watched the

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<v Speaker 3>coverage this week that you'll be aware of the loop

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<v Speaker 3>at the Old Course where you've got sort of seven, eight, nine, ten,

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<v Speaker 3>eleven all crossing each other and then twelve et off

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<v Speaker 3>and head back towards the town. And I was walking

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<v Speaker 3>across the seventh fairwee, well, actually across the sort of

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<v Speaker 3>eleventh just as Rory was putting out in seven. And

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<v Speaker 3>at that point we were thinking, this is Rory's for

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<v Speaker 3>the taking. Surely, you know, Victor looks like a rabbit

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<v Speaker 3>in the headlights. It's just not going to happen for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And it felt like a two horse race and we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the leaderboard. I was with a few of

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<v Speaker 3>the other boys.

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<v Speaker 1>With Cale Porter and with Andy and a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the other guys, and we're just looking at leaderboard,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking yeah, I can't really see anyone making a run

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<v Speaker 3>from that pack. And then as we were on the

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<v Speaker 3>tenth and Rory had that incredible live plot to leave

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<v Speaker 3>himself a tap in birdie at the tenth, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a huge cheer to my left and it was calm

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<v Speaker 3>holding for a birdie at the eleventh, and at that

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<v Speaker 3>point you just kind of thought, hang on a second,

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<v Speaker 3>cam Smith really isn't not far that far back, and

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<v Speaker 3>if he gets on a heater with his puster, which

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<v Speaker 3>he's prone to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw it saw Grass.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in March, then he's still a threat. And that

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<v Speaker 3>proved to be the case. I mean, the rattle up

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<v Speaker 3>Birdi's at ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, Then to hold

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<v Speaker 3>that huge power saving pot at the seventeenth, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a simple tap in birdie at the eighteenth as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's some performance.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I honestly thought when he had when

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<v Speaker 3>he got sixty four and Friday here and hold what

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<v Speaker 3>it was, a two hundred and fifty three feet of pots,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, that's unsustainable, that's not going to carry on.

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<v Speaker 3>That proved to be the case because yesterday had an

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<v Speaker 3>absolute stinker with the butter, it just went stone cold.

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<v Speaker 3>He had that aberration of the thirteenth where watching him

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<v Speaker 3>play that like watching like looking in a merrit That's

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<v Speaker 3>the way I play golf, and I just thought, right, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's his race run. But to have two sixty fours

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<v Speaker 3>during the Open Championship, one on Friday and one and

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday having fair play to the guy twenty under par, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>some players and me and that when that totter gets hot,

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<v Speaker 3>it is red hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what most of us see on TV when we

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<v Speaker 2>watch Cameron Smith is the incredible putting and the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to just make puts from all over. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Spieth in twenty fifteen, where if he's outside of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty feet it doesn't matter. You think the ball is

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<v Speaker 2>going in the hole when he gets going. And he

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<v Speaker 2>just seems to be mentally bulletproof with the short puts,

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<v Speaker 2>with any puts that he needs to make, and he

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<v Speaker 2>seems to have some magic with those longer puts. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's obvious, right, We can all see that on TV

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easily. We can also see the creativity with the

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<v Speaker 2>short game. Is there anything about Cameron Smith's game that

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<v Speaker 2>you think people don't understand as well having not seen

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<v Speaker 2>him in person. Assuming they haven't seen him in person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was the indefinable quality about cam Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think this probably is still pretty obvious to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest, if you watch him on Telly, is just

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<v Speaker 3>how gritty a competitor he is and how he just

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<v Speaker 3>never knows when he's beaten.

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<v Speaker 1>He refuses to lie down.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's had some pretty rough moments in his

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<v Speaker 3>young careers in the twenty eight, but he's at moments

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<v Speaker 3>where he's throwing tournaments away with I remember what tournament was, right,

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<v Speaker 3>went out of bonds on the seventy second hole to

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<v Speaker 3>lose a tournament, and you know those are body blows

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<v Speaker 3>to take, but to win the players and the fashion

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<v Speaker 3>he did back in March with how many greens did

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<v Speaker 3>he want put in that final round like thirteen or

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<v Speaker 3>something ridiculous, and then to go out and do pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much the same today. I mean the final round of

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<v Speaker 3>an open at Saint Andrews. To shoot thirty in your

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<v Speaker 3>back nine, you have to be so mentally strong to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, such inner belief, especially when you've got the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd favorite ninety nine point nine percent of the crowd

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<v Speaker 3>all pulling for the guy in the group behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it just it takes some serious stones to

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<v Speaker 3>do that. And there are a few Aussie fans around

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<v Speaker 3>today cheering for cam Smith. There were definitely a few

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<v Speaker 3>cheers I heard from from up ahead when those pots

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<v Speaker 3>were ruling in. But I mean the mental resilience of

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<v Speaker 3>the guy after the disappointment you would have had yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>in his Saturday round is something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, one of the great WTF moments that I

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<v Speaker 2>had today was looking at the scoreboard after the second

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<v Speaker 2>to last group had finished and seeing that Cameron Young

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<v Speaker 2>was all of a sudden in solo second at eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>sorry at nineteen under, and ahead of Rory McElroy, who

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<v Speaker 2>went on to par the eighteenth hall and finish in third.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Cameron Young's round almost seems destined to be forgotten.

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<v Speaker 2>But he shot sixty five today. I know, how did

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<v Speaker 2>he know? Again, I know you were following the final group,

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<v Speaker 2>but how did he do that? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I again, I'm just having real information relayed to

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<v Speaker 3>me as I'm in the group behind. But I understand

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<v Speaker 3>that he missed a he made a bogie at nine, right,

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<v Speaker 3>which almost feels like a double bogie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then he has a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Short pot at which all was it thirteen or fifteen maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them? Yeah, there was. And also there was

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<v Speaker 2>a three put on the first hole that didn't look good.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll be thinking, You'll probably be thinking this is the

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<v Speaker 3>one that good way because you're right to go and

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<v Speaker 3>shot sixty five in the final round of an open. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still not the best score of the day, and

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<v Speaker 3>you lose by one is a bitter pill to swallow.

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<v Speaker 3>But my words nineteen hunder part are on the old

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<v Speaker 3>course in his very first experience of an open. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>links golf takes getting used to for some players, and

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Young has absolutely taken it in his stride and Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot a sixty five and it gets the clips

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<v Speaker 3>while you're playing partner, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be a kick in the teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean maya Kolpa sort of. I wrote yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>in the Friday newsletter that I just didn't see this

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<v Speaker 2>being anything other than a Rory versus Victor show, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one of them would drop off and the other

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<v Speaker 2>would stick with it. I did not have both of

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<v Speaker 2>the camerons shooting under a sixty five or under it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't see that in the cards at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I also did see Saturday, not after what they both

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<v Speaker 1>did on Saturday. I thought on Saturday they just looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuffing knocked out of them, and you know, a pair

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<v Speaker 3>of sixty six is from Rory and Victor. It felt like, right, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's going to be We're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>destined for another sort of jewel like we saw in

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<v Speaker 3>seventy seven with Watson and Nicholas, or six years ago

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<v Speaker 3>at true with Michelson and Stenson. It just felt like

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be Macro and Hoveland going toe

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<v Speaker 3>to toe, blow for blow, Bertie for Bertie. But Victor

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<v Speaker 3>just looked like, I said, a rabbit in the headlights.

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<v Speaker 1>He just looked so.

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<v Speaker 3>Uncomfortable basically out there, I thought for the front nine,

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<v Speaker 3>just looked so in control, and to be honest, looked

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<v Speaker 3>in control for eighteen holes, but just could not get.

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<v Speaker 1>A single pot to drop.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I saw Justin Ray just tweet

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<v Speaker 3>something like he had thirty nine potts in his second

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<v Speaker 3>round at s and Andrews in twenty ten and he

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<v Speaker 3>had thirty six pots today and those are the two

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<v Speaker 3>rounds in his entire major career he's had the most potts. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously the greens here are absolutely massive, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's very rare that you have eighteen greens in a

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<v Speaker 3>regulation in your final round boogie free and you still

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<v Speaker 3>end up not winning.

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<v Speaker 2>And you started the day for ahead of the two

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<v Speaker 2>guys who ended up beating guy. I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 2>just that I don't know, Justin Ray can probably dig

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<v Speaker 2>it up, but that's gonna be visual occurrence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the record bicks.

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<v Speaker 3>We was sure that Rory finished third and the shot

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<v Speaker 3>behind Camy, and I think he would have already the

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<v Speaker 3>eighteenth if he wasn't trying to go for it with

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<v Speaker 3>that hit. You knew he had to hold that chip

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<v Speaker 3>for two to get into a playoff. Where is if

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<v Speaker 3>you need a birdy to get into the playoff, you

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<v Speaker 3>lag it up and leave yourself a little tap in,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it probably could.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been, you know, a sixty nine for Rory and

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen under par, but that still wouldn't have been That

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<v Speaker 3>was still have been one shot too many.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's talk about that final game of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>Rory and Victor you followed it. What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>will be a moment or image from that group on

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<v Speaker 2>this day that will stick with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the moment when, which was a huge sliding

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<v Speaker 3>doors moment, was when Rory had a bite and then

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<v Speaker 3>he put it around eight to nine feet perhaps for

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<v Speaker 3>Birdie at the ninth and it just slid by. And

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<v Speaker 3>that was the first moment where I kind of thought, ah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't have his potting boots, and in recent weeks

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<v Speaker 3>that has been the strength of his game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's potted so well well did he' pot of Brookline?

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<v Speaker 3>And when that one slid by, I was just like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 3>he really needs a part to drop here. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if he'd hold that, and I think you would have

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<v Speaker 3>given him a three shot buffer, I think that would

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<v Speaker 3>have just sent the message to the group in front

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<v Speaker 3>of the cams if they looked up at one of

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<v Speaker 3>those yellow scoreboards and saw, okay, Rory McRoy suddenly eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>under Parnoi, then that would have been a real killer

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<v Speaker 3>blow And that could be the moment that Royl maybe

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<v Speaker 3>look back and think, ah, man, that that was the

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<v Speaker 3>moment I just let it slip through my fingers. But

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I don't know how much scar tissue

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<v Speaker 3>this one's going to leave. He's spoke on Tuesday about

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<v Speaker 3>this being the holy grail to win and open at

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Andrews. Everything this week, the fact that he missed

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<v Speaker 3>the last open here in twenty fifteen when he would

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<v Speaker 3>have been the defending champion because of his injury, the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he spent the week, you know that he looks.

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<v Speaker 3>He was smiling from ear to ear at the Champions

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<v Speaker 3>dinner and the other night. He spent the week talking

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<v Speaker 3>to the greats like Jack Nicholas, Tiger, obviously Gary Player.

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<v Speaker 3>It just felt, as I said earlier, like written in

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<v Speaker 3>the Stars, that this was gonna be Rory's week. We

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<v Speaker 3>were going to see him standing on that eighteenth green

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<v Speaker 3>at the Old Course, the Clark jug with the whole

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<v Speaker 3>of Andrews hanging from their balconies, the crowds packed in

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<v Speaker 3>the grandstands just screaming for Rory, and it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>to be. And it's a hollow feeling, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a hollow feeling for many golf fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got to address the elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>As well. It's kind of a hollow feeling for the

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<v Speaker 1>game of golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the rumors, if they're to be believed, are that

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Smith is heading to live, if not next week,

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<v Speaker 3>then imminently or perhaps after the President's Cup. So to

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<v Speaker 3>have the champion golf for the year playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on the exhibition tour is going to be a bitter

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<v Speaker 3>pill for the RNA to swallow.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a lot of golf fans as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it would have been a warm, fuzzy, cozy feeling

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<v Speaker 3>inside if it had been Rory. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>sport can be cruel, and today was a cruel, cruel

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<v Speaker 3>day and I think a lot of us are feeling it.

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<v Speaker 2>On a scale of one to ten. How strong do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the rumors are of Cameron Smith going to live?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've heard those rumors too. We've heard a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of rumors lately about a lot of different players, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of smoke and in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>there hasn't been much fire. Smoke do you think there

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<v Speaker 2>is around Cam Smith and Live and do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's safe to assume that there's at least something of

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<v Speaker 2>a blaze there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, you know, rumors start for a reason, don't

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<v Speaker 3>they end. All the signs are that Henry Stenson is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be going soon, which will obviously create a

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<v Speaker 3>huge storm for Ryder Cup Europe to have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be stripped to the cap and see they'll have

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<v Speaker 3>to find a new man. It will be a huge

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<v Speaker 3>feather in the cap for Greg Norman to get him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the rumors that I'm hearing from speaking to

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<v Speaker 3>people on the ground here that the Aussie trio of

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Scott, Martin Leishman cam Smith are all potentially going

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<v Speaker 3>to jump.

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<v Speaker 1>After this year's President's Cup with quil Olough. So those

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<v Speaker 1>rumors are around for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what we don't know, we've seen in so in

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<v Speaker 3>recent weeks, so many players just do huge unexpected u turn,

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<v Speaker 3>usually in the up direction. Bryce saying I'm happy in

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.720
<v Speaker 3>the PGA tour. A week later he joins Live DJ

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.280
<v Speaker 3>saying I'm happy in the PGA to a few months

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<v Speaker 3>later he joins Live Now there could be reverse few

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:09.840
<v Speaker 3>turns as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Smith could have a contract sitting on the table

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<v Speaker 3>to Live Golf and he could suddenly decide, do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I've just won the Claric Jug at s Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking at that Clark jug and seeing Nicholas Palmer player

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<v Speaker 3>woulds Foald bias Steros seeing those names in the Clark

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<v Speaker 3>Jug as he fits this evening in his bedroom before

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<v Speaker 3>he drifts off the sleep, probably hugging that Clark jug,

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps that changes his mind again and he thinks, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what golf's all about, and I want to stay

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<v Speaker 3>and win more majors and create a legacy and put

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<v Speaker 3>my name in the history books rather than just go

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<v Speaker 3>and accept a squillion dollars to play exhibition golf. So

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<v Speaker 3>who knows what's going on between cam Smith's two years

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment, but it would be a massive blow,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, just for golf in general if the Open

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<v Speaker 3>champion was to join live and let's hope that if

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<v Speaker 3>it is the case that that offers on the table

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<v Speaker 3>that Sobey's reconsidering it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know you described a thought process there

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<v Speaker 2>that we might hope cam Smith might go through. But

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of that is that he could equally

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<v Speaker 2>go through the thought process of well, look, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of exemptions into majors now totally, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to really worry as much as some other

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<v Speaker 2>people do about being able to play in the majors

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<v Speaker 2>if my world ranking kind of goes off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's present as well. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>this has been hanging over the entire week. You know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us haven't wanted to admit that live

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<v Speaker 2>is a factor at this championship because it just seems,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to kind of disrespect this open at St.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew's to be talking about live. But guess what, that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of what made it feel significant for Rory to

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<v Speaker 2>potentially win, because he has been the main anti live

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<v Speaker 2>voice in golf, and if he won, then that would

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<v Speaker 2>have been bigger than just Rory winning his fifth major.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have meant something for this kind of existential

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<v Speaker 2>battle over men's professional golf. Did you feel that in

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<v Speaker 2>the air today at St.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I've I've definitely made a conscious effort

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<v Speaker 3>this week to try not to talk about it because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want it to overshadow you know, this historic

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<v Speaker 3>moment for the sport at this historic venue. But the

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<v Speaker 3>final part of the tournament drops it.

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<v Speaker 1>Six to fifty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Pm our time over here in the UK this evening

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<v Speaker 3>and at six fifty six pm its seeds. We're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Live again because this is a fractious moment in

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<v Speaker 3>the game of golf. We don't know what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen next. We don't know what decision all of the

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<v Speaker 3>majors are going to take regarding the tour that Live

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<v Speaker 3>Golf and whether players on that can participate Peyton Majors.

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<v Speaker 3>That's still a huge unknown factor. There's still a huge

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<v Speaker 3>question mark. It would be very difficult to imagine Open

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:06.119
<v Speaker 3>champions getting banned from returning to the Open. So, as

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<v Speaker 3>you said, Tom Smith, he's got thirty two more Opens

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<v Speaker 3>to play until he's sixty years of age as things done.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it looks who really knows what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly felt you're right that sort of that feeling

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<v Speaker 3>of good versus evil is perhaps over egging the pudding,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would have felt it if Rory had won today.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was good with the world, you know, everything was

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<v Speaker 3>left a warm, fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling for the entire game of golf.

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<v Speaker 3>And as it is, it's a champion, a very deserving champion.

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<v Speaker 3>He played the best golf of the week, but a

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<v Speaker 3>champion with this huge question mark lingering over his future.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. Now from a pure golf perspective, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a great championship. The old course was wonderful all week,

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of positives to take away, but equally

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions to ask about the future of

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<v Speaker 2>golf coming off of this. So thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for discussing all this with me, jamieciate it and go

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<v Speaker 2>have some fun in St Andrew's.

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<v Speaker 1>Will dry my very best.

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<v Speaker 3>As things stand the moment, I'm sitting in the grand

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<v Speaker 3>stand by the second tea box. I'm looking out over

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<v Speaker 3>the eighteenth fairway on the seventeenth Green and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a music festival.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just people sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Down a cross legged, having picnics and drinking a few

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.479
<v Speaker 3>beers everywhere. So I'm sure the party would have been

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<v Speaker 3>a lot rightier had Rory mclroy been the Champion Golfer

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<v Speaker 3>of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's Camps Meth.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations Australia on this occasion your vote on Northern Ireland,

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<v Speaker 3>but our fellow will be back.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, back to the episode. All right, I am

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<v Speaker 2>here with Joseph Lemanya, who is a regular guest on

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<v Speaker 2>our Takeaways podcasts. I always like to check in with you, Joseph,

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<v Speaker 2>because on days like this, you kind of cut through

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<v Speaker 2>this sentimentality nicely. And there's going to be a lot

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of sentimentality out there today. And it's not that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't endorse that in this case, it's just that it's

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<v Speaker 2>useful to find another perspective. But Joseph, you are the

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 2>founder of Optimal Approach Golf. You write the Finding the

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<v Speaker 2>Edge newsletter, which is excellent, and that's who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate you having me. That was quite the eventful day

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<v Speaker 4>of golf. So I was excited when you had asked

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 4>me to come on the pods so we can flesh

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 4>out some of our thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I sensed on Twitter that had that you had

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.880
<v Speaker 2>some ideas brewing, and so I'm really excited to get

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:16.919
<v Speaker 2>into those. The first question I want to ask you,

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I want to give you some freedom to

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 2>go where you want to go here and tell me

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>your ideas. But the first thing that I'm wondering is

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 2>is there a story to tell about this day that

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't just have to do with Rory missed putts and

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Cameron Smith made putts, because that's going to be the narrative.

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 2>But I think there's probably I looked at the stats

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 2>here a little bit, not the advanced stats, but just

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the normal stats, and I feel like there might be

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 2>something else going on here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I'm very analytically driven. I always am looking

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 4>at the stats, it's also worth being cognizant of what

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 4>the stats do not reflect. And one concept or important

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 4>theme I think, especially with regards Rory McElroy, is that

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 4>stats don't tell you a lot about shot selection. And

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<v Speaker 4>that is where I take my biggest issue with Rory

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 4>in particular, and especially how much he tries to curve

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 4>the ball at times. Now, I want to preface this

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 4>with saying that I know a lot of golf purists

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 4>will not be happy to hear that curving the ball

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot is not advantageous.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, who are you calling a golf purist here? Let's

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>be clear about it. Are you calling me a golf purist?

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 4>Joseph, I'm calling you a golf purist. I'm calling a

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 4>lot of the listeners of the Friday eg a golf purist.

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 4>I myself consider I consider myself a golf purist.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>You're coming after everybody, including yourself.

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it brings me no joy to say that, but

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 4>I do. I am high conviction that the amount Rory

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 4>curves his ball at times comes back to bite them.

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 4>So to give you one, I have many examples, but

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 4>to just go through a couple of them on his

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 4>Friday round holds eight and eleven. The par three's Rory

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 4>tries to hit this massive sweeping draw into number eight

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 4>and he ends up leaving himself like one hundred and

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 4>fifty feet on the putt. It doesn't curve, leaves it

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 4>way out right. That whole plate to a three point

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.959
<v Speaker 4>zero eight stroke average for the day. So it depends

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 4>what number you want to put on his chances of

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 4>two putting from there. But I would feel very confident

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 4>saying it's less than fifty percent of the time he's

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 4>two putting that. I think it's probably closer to like

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 4>seventy five percent of the time he's not two putting it.

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 4>But okay, he's giving up a significant amount of strokes

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 4>on the field with that t shot. Now I've had

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people then text me and say, well

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 4>what about hole eleven? Talk about whole eleven, the other

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 4>part three where he hits that draw in again and

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 4>he makes birdie. He makes a sixteen footer on number eleven,

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 4>and I will concede like he hit the draw, he

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 4>made birdie. That whole played to an average of three

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 4>point two two. And not to bore people too much

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 4>with the numbers, but he doesn't. He's not gonna make

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 4>that put every time. He's probably gonna make that put

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five percent of the time. And the extent

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 4>of my argument here is that when you zoom out

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 4>and you try to hit those sweeping draws, over the

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.360
<v Speaker 4>long run, the big misses are going to eat into

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 4>the returns of when you actually execute that shot. And

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 4>so between those two holes, Rory McElroy, one of the

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 4>best players in the world, loses strokes on the field

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 4>tee to green, and that includes the averages of a

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 4>lot of players who are much worse than him. Rory

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 4>should not be losing strokes tea to green.

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 2>Did you see him working the ball both ways today?

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>And would you rather see him kind of sticking with

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 2>a shot shape.

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 4>It is absolutely an advantage to be able to work

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 4>the ball both ways, I want to be clear about that.

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 4>But when there's no wind, especially today, you don't need

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 4>to curve it very much. If Rory's going to curve it,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 4>I'd like him just to see him do it just

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 4>a little bit, not these sweeping draws sweeping fades. And

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 4>so there were three very clear examples where it was

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 4>like my eyes were bleeding watching the tournament today. His

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 4>tee shot on hole nine, right drivable par four, he

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 4>tries to go for this big draw off the tee.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 4>He hits it to I think he leaves himself fifty

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 4>five yards. Just for some quick math here, it's a

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 4>three hundred and fifty yard hole. He hit his drive

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 4>three hundred and twenty two yards and he left himself

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 4>almost sixty yards in. If you're a math buff, you'll

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 4>know that that's pretty far from a straight line. And

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not arguing that he should just be going directly

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 4>at the flag, But when you try to hit these,

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, significantly sweeping draws and fades, you're taking on

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 4>a lot of risk with those misses. And I think

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 4>with a much flatter shot shape there, Rory could easily

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 4>have been putting for eagle. So sure, it could have

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 4>only been a couple of yards here and there. Maybe

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 4>he'd with a strategy I'm advocating, he ends up forty

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 4>five yards from the hole instead of fifty five. And

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>that's the difference between winning the golf tournament.

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, So okay, let me lay out what the

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>easy narrative is going to be based on kind of

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the traditional numbers that get cited most often on traditional coverage,

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 2>which is which has to do with you know, greens

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>hitting regulation right, which maybe doesn't mean too much of

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 2>st andrews because of the sheer size of the greens.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>We need to talk about how close the ball is

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to the hole and a number of puts, you know,

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the length of the puts made, things like that. When

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>you look at those kind of traditional numbers, you see

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>big differences between what Cameron Smith and Rory McElroy did today.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And this is what I think what is going to

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>be the dominant story about this tournament is going to

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>be built on is these numbers about the putts that

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>they made. So Rory, the longest put that he made

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>today was five feet on eleven. I'm not sure how

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>long the putt he made for that two put on

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>three was because it seems like the shot tracker kind

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>of went screwy on that one. But he just made

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>a five footer like that's it. He made no putts

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 2>of note today. Cameron Smith made a nine footer, a

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>seven footer, a six footer, a fifteen footer, an eleven footer,

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 2>a ten footer. He had a handful of sensational lag puts.

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Rory had a couple of really good lag puts too,

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking about Cameron Smith. You know, from one

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet getting it to two feet or one foot.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It was a great putting performance. Today. Cameron Smith beat

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Rory by two shots, and so what is the argument

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that you would lay out that that's not what the

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 2>real difference was between them today.

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't disagree that. A huge part of the

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 4>story here is that cam Smith put very well and

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 4>he's one of the best putters in the world. But

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>the point I would make is that it's not about

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 4>turning this thing into a putting contest. There are other

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 4>shots that you get to hit, and Rory didn't convert

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 4>on holes nine, twelve or fourteen, which are some of

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 4>the holes where he should have been in the best

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 4>position too. So, like I'm saying, with the big sweeping

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 4>draw on number nine, on number twelve, he tried to

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 4>hit this huge sweeping cut off of the tea, ended

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 4>up having I don't remember exactly how far he had

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 4>for his birdie, but twelve feet or so. Like, look

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 4>where Cameron Smith was on that hole. I'm not gonna

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 4>argue that it was perfect where cam Smith hit his

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 4>te shot. But the argument I would make in reference

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 4>to well, what was the difference between them? You don't

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 4>want to be in a putting contest if you're Rory

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 4>McElroy versus Cam Smith, so it's not effective to only

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>talk about the putting numbers. A lot of other stuff

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>happened there too. Rory could have won the tournament by

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 4>five throughout the course of seventy two holes if he's

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 4>making smarter decisions. So I fully believe that Rory McElroy

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 4>is one of the most talented players in the world,

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 4>if not the most talented player in the world. People

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 4>always say that, like, why doesn't he win more often?

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm offering a suggestion here that his shot selection is

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 4>not always smart. And this is not a new idea

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 4>for me. I've been calling this out for a while now,

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 4>and I'd be happy to produce more examples, but it

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 4>comes back to bite them. So I don't disagree with

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 4>the putting argument today, But I mean Rory had a

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 4>huge lead coming in. He actually didn't gain strokes on

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 4>the field today total, So there's a little bit more

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 4>to this story than just cam Smith made some long putts.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I agree with you. And one big

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>reason why is that, you know, going back to these

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of traditional numbers. If you look at the opportunities

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>that Rory had to make birdie today, aside from the

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>greens that he was driving on par four's and the

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 2>greens that he was reaching in two on par fives,

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>he really didn't have any opportunities for bertie inside ten

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>feet aside from on the third hole a six foot

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>putt that he missed. He was not sticking his irons

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>with in that really kind of super makeable birdie putt range.

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't just because his irons were bad, not necessarily.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>It could also mean that there was just there was

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>there was stuff going on from tee to green where

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>he was not able to give himself a lot of

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>birdie chances from short range. And I think that that's

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be an underrated part of the story today.

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I'm glad you're contextualizing his round a little bit

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 4>more because stats are great. I'm a proponent of strokes gained,

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 4>but you have to call out the shortcomings of strokes

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 4>gained it These are a system of expected values based

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 4>on aggregate numbers. So for example, Rory leaves himself in

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 4>a pretty bad spot on number fourteen the par five

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 4>today after his second shot.

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, right, he can't. He can't get that chip

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>within four feet.

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 4>That's going to show up as poor strokes gained around

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 4>the green for that shot, which may be true that

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, from thirteen yards in the fair way there

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 4>should be a particular expected value. That's not going to

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 4>be true with Saint Andrews in particular, where you have

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 4>significant undulations like these are PGA Tour average numbers, so

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 4>at almost no course more so than like Saint Andrews

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 4>or Augusta. These aggregated numbers and a really small sample

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>like one round can be misleading. All seven footers are

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>going to be given the same expected value and so yeah,

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 4>cam Smith easily part of the reason he put well

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 4>could have been that he was leaving himself some easier putts.

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 4>So people need to be very careful when interpreting strokes

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 4>gained in a small sample because as you're adding context

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 4>to it, it's worth examining that a little bit further

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 4>and calling out some of the shortcomings of those numbers.

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's worth looking into why Rory was in the

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>places that he was in today basically, and that's a

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>complex question because it has to do with what he

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 2>did off the tee, with what tactics he was using overall.

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, you've mentioned the shot shaping and how he

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>did on approach. Generally think of Rory being impeccable in

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>those areas, and often he is, but you know, today

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>he was just I felt like he was a little

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>bit off Teita Green and that the putting was off too.

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 2>But man, there were a lot of ways that he

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>could have shot sixty eight today and gotten to twenty

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>under and been in a playoff, and he just really

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't do any of them. Now, on the other side

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>of it, you've pointed out some of the tactical shortcomings

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.760
<v Speaker 2>as you see them of Rory kind of overshaping the ball.

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Often people say like, you have to shape the ball,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and links golf, this is you know, having a nuanced

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>game is really what you need. And in fact, that's

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a reason that people kind of endorse Cameron Smith when

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>it comes to these firmer and more complex courses, you know,

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>because he kind of has that reputation as an artist.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 2>But what did you see from Cameron Smith tactically or

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>did you see him, you know, sort of performing at

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a superior level tactically than Rory this week.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 4>So generally a lot of modern golf analytics kind of

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 4>gets boiled down or at least distilled down for public

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 4>discourse as be aggressive off the tee and conservative on

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 4>the approach. So just to tie a couple ideas together here,

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 4>when I was watching St Andrews getting ready for this week,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 4>if it was going to be very windy, the need

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 4>to shape your shots a little bit more and to

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 4>get crafty was going to be of much more importance.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 4>As soon as I saw, like, this is not going

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 4>to be windy. It's a bomb fest, and that's what

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 4>this was, right Cam Smith, with the exception of I

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 4>would criticize his laying back on eighteen, especially on his

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 4>second round, which I.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Saw was an anomaly too. The other days he pushed

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it up near the green. I don't know why I

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>did that.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 4>It didn't make any sense. But Cam Smith is a

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 4>very aggressive player and he liked Rory, so I would

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 4>give Rory a lot of credit. Rory recognized I need

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 4>to hit driver over and over again.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>He did it.

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm not being critical of Rory's entire course management here.

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 4>I picked him to win. I picked Rory to win

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 4>before the week. Cam Smith knows like he knows to

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 4>be aggressive, sometimes to a fault, but at Saint Andrews

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 4>when he missed with some of his aggressive approach shots,

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 4>he has the short game to get himself out of

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 4>some of those situations. And if you're playing at Brookline

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 4>and you shortside yourself, you may not have the opportunity,

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 4>even if you're Cam Smith, to flop some kind of

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 4>shot that ends up, you know, converting that into an

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 4>up and down. So I think Saint Andrews was perfect

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 4>for Cam and that he could pretty much just rip

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Driver off the tee all day and despite not being

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 4>the most accurate player, put himself into positions to score.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 4>So this is a testament to a lot of the

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 4>players in the field. I think pretty much everyone understood, like,

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 4>I just got to go out there and bash Driver,

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 4>and if you look at the leaderboard, it was a

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 4>distance fest.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And let's not underestimate the fact that Cameron

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Smith had two extraordinary putting days round two and round four.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 2>But as you're saying, he put himself in position to

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>have have those extraordinary putting days, and that's kind of

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>his game, you know, That's that's why there maybe why

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 2>there's some some range in how he performs day to

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>day because sometimes the aggression is going to get the

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>best of him. But when he's hot with his putter,

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>he just can go super super low, and that that

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 2>worked in his favor this week. So Saint Andrew's there

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>was some talk this week about whether it's it's obsolete

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>for the modern game, right Matt Fitzpatrick weighed in on

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>that and he said, yeah, I kind of is right.

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 2>If fitz Patrick's a bright guy. What do you make

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>of that? What did you make of Saint Andrews as

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 2>a test for the modern championship men's game this week?

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Well, I think in general a lot of courses

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 4>could be rendered obsolete under the same principles that Matt

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Fitzpatrick would would probably describe here, I will say, I

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 4>think with a lot of wind, Saint Andrews is not obsolete.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 4>And whether you have wind or not, it's still interesting.

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 4>I think it's an interesting test even if it becomes

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 4>a distance fest. Let's rip driver and then you have

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 4>to hit these creative short game shots. So do I

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 4>think it's become obsolete a little bit. I think the

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 4>strategic value of Saint Andrews was certainly not on display

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 4>today or really the rest of the week. You need wind,

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>and it's tough to schedule a championship knowing that you

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 4>need wind for the course to have teeth. So I

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 4>would agree with him to a point, but that doesn't

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't make me think that we need to stop

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 4>going to Saint Andrews. I think it's still an interesting

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 4>test even if you're not going to watch guys hit

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 4>five irons, you know, from two hundred and thirty yards

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 4>and watch it roll out. Where do we see that anyway?

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 4>Where do we see that?

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we really don't see it anymore. And one thing

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that I was sort of impressed with this week when

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>it came to the course and its test, was that

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was a pretty good test of driving.

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the line on St. Andrews is that you

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>can spray at and you'll be all right, And to

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.479
<v Speaker 2>an extent that's true, some holds more than others. But man,

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 2>if you missed in the wrong place, then the punishment

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 2>was really really severe. And that factored in to the

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 2>shots that guys were playing off the tee, and I

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 2>think that that made it a more interesting test of

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>driving than maybe people give it credit for.

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I will say I had tweeted this out there,

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 4>but just to reiterate, I do think some holes at

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 4>Saint Andrews are almost like if you were to say,

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 4>what if we designed a hole where there's zero reason

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 4>to hit less than driver just to see if some

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 4>people still will, And you'd still have commentators saying, hey,

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 4>he's taking the conservative smart play here, like right, No

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 4>matter if you designed a three hundred and fifty yard

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 4>completely flat hole, no bunkers, there would probably be some

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 4>players who talk themselves into an iron off the tee.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 4>I actually think whole one at Saint Andrews is kind

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 4>of like that. I think the next time they go

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 4>there you will see players get way more aggressive. I

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 4>have no doubt interesting players are being too conservative and

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 4>not pushing it up there closer to the burn. But

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 4>to your point about it being a interesting driving test, seventeen,

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 4>when that pin is on the left side, angles matter

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 4>on that shot. You cannot just bail out left and

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 4>expect to make part.

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>You can't.

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 4>Those left pins are not accessible, so it's a bit

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>of a dramatic way to create that angle and make

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 4>players take it close to out of bounds, kind of

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 4>like fourteen at Royal Saint George's. But that works, So

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you. It's an interesting driving test, but that's

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 4>pretty much what it is, a driving and short game contest.

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's why Rory was a decent choice this week.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>And you know why. It's somewhat remarkable in fact, that

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Cameron Smith came out on top. You know, Cameron Smith

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 2>can maybe win anywhere. I think that can be said

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>about him. But Cameron Smith is not knowing and not

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>known for being, you know, a great, great driver of

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 2>the golf ball. But you wrote an article about him

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 2>a while back for the Friday Egg website where you

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>noted that he had added some distance. Do you think

0:40:58.719 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>that came into play this week?

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely? You look at the leaderboard that they're all bombers

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 4>pretty much without exception, they're all bombers. So absolutely. And

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 4>one point that I would like to make that I

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 4>think is maybe subtle, but I've seen some people say

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 4>that Cam Smith can do well at both Augusta and

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 4>at Saint Andrews because they're wide while I would agree,

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 4>I would take it just one step a little bit further,

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 4>which is to say that wide misses you're still playable.

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 4>So when they're short grass like that, Cam Smith can

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 4>still hit himself out of those situations. If a course

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 4>is really wide but the rough is super thick, that's

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 4>not going to be as good for Cam Smith as

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 4>somewhere like Augusta or Saint Andrew's where that rough was playable.

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 4>So I think any course where cam can just go

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 4>out and bomb it and get away with being a

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 4>little bit inaccurate, he's going to have a chance to win.

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 4>But that's not Sawgrass, and he won there too, So

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 4>Cam Smith is a very well rounded player. Especially with

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 4>this added distance. He's dangerous anytime he tease it up.

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now he's exactly for a bunch of majors.

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>So get used to his presence at the top of

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 2>leaderboards if he maintains his current form, because yeah, he can.

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>He can compete a lot of places.

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 4>He's not going anywhere. Yeah, when you watch his short game,

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 4>you know that if he's hitting the ball well off

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 4>the tea, he's going to be in contention. So definitely

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 4>pretty bullish on Cam Smith.

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. Always interesting to talk to you, Joseph.

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. We'll talk to you again soon.

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Sounds great. Appreciate you having me on.

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Garrett. All right, I am here with Andy Johnson

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 2>of the Frida Egg. Are you in your dorm room

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>right now? Andy?

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 5>I am, I am. I just the sun just went down.

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 5>It's been kind of a really cool night as Saint Andrew's. Obviously,

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 5>the old course turns back into park on Sunday night,

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 5>and like there have been you know, my my dorm

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 5>room overlooks the road Hole Green and the Swolking Bridge,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 5>and I've been looking out and there's been like fifty

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 5>or sixty people on the seventeenth Green having putting competitions,

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 5>and you know there's like, well you were walking back

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 5>after the tournament, there's you know, probably about a two

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 5>year old out hitting balls and people taking pictures in

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 5>the road Hole bunker. I mean just you know, one

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 5>of the neatest, maybe the thing that sticks with me

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 5>the most is how I just I can't get over

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 5>the fact that all this happens right after the tournament,

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 5>and after thinking about all the other major championships that

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 5>I've been to, like the idea of people just loitering

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 5>around on the golf course until dark is absolutely crazy

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 5>after a major championship, but that's what happens here, and

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.959
<v Speaker 5>it's just a magical place because of that. It makes

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 5>you think some you know, after spending a week out

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:04.879
<v Speaker 5>here and seeing specifically that you know, and how intertwined

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 5>golf is with this community and how this golf course

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 5>is the town's golf course, Like how is this where

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 5>we started and how we got to some of the

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 5>places that we are with golf.

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 2>That is a huge story about how, yeah, how this

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>game started with a course like this that is being

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 2>treated in this way. I'm not saying it's treated badly,

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's being you know, it's sort of like golf

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>courses we regard as being so sensitive and so fragile

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that we can't have people walking around them. They're going

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 2>to ruin the golf course. And here's the old course, sturdy,

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 2>old burly, old course, just sitting there being like, yeah,

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 2>come on, two year olds, you can you can take

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 2>swings here, you can have a picnic and a bunker.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Come on, I'm I'm fine, you know, I'm.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 5>Here, and a chance and cartwheels on the seventeenth green, Like,

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 5>think about incredible, Think about that happening at the country

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 5>club moments after the concluded.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, they would send the cops to shoot you

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 2>down if you did that on the eighteenth green at Augusta. So, yeah,

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I wish I were there. These are the moments when

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I when I saw the tournament going on. I don't

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>think I ever really felt like, oh, I wish I

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>was there in that huge crowd, like trying to see

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.439
<v Speaker 2>what's happening. The moments that I wish I was there are.

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 2>It's like right now, when people are just walking around

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the course on a beautiful evening having a fun time,

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.280
<v Speaker 2>that's so appealing. That's such a that's such an idyllic scene,

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 2>and that that is the image of golf that I

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>wish were out there more.

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, maybe that's you know, we got it that beans,

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.439
<v Speaker 5>We got a rebby that by getting you out here,

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 5>like getting you into town on a Saturday night so

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 5>you can spend an entire Sunday having a picnic out there.

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 2>That would be the plan. That would be the best

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>way to experience the old course for the time. But

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 2>speaking of first times, this was your first time at

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the Old Course. A lot of people are stunned by this.

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 2>They like to get the digs in afterwards, you know, like,

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I've been to the Old Course, and

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>when you're there, even when you yeah, you can't do

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>that bit anymore where you say you're a fraud. But

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean it's yeah, okay, we haven't been.

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, Augusta might have heard and they might have

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 5>caught radioed in a policeman.

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Wait, what what happened? Are there that just went oh

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, I didn't Okay, Yeah, they're tracking our Actually

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 2>they don't want people doing cartwheels on the green in

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 2>any case, Uh, this is your first time out there.

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to get your impressions of the course,

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 2>whether they be general or specific. We've started talking sort

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of about the spirit of the place and how it

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 2>is so woven into the town and how people just

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 2>sort of walk all over it and have done for

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of years. But you know, architecturally speaking, what were

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>some of the things that that really jumped out at you.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 5>God, there's so many. I it's it's almost organize this somehow.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.240
<v Speaker 5>I think. I think the number one thing that sticks

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 5>with me from the tournament standpoint is the how it's

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 5>got this elasticity about it with scoring about you know nothing.

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 5>And it's very similar in a way to Augusta. How

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 5>we feel about Augusta National. But nothing, no shot out

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.919
<v Speaker 5>at the Old Course is unattainable. No, you know, there

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 5>are plenty of opportunities to go get red numbers. It's

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 5>very easy to make birdies at the Old Course. Maybe

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 5>not very easy all the time, but there are very

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 5>Every hole effectively is a birdie opportunity, and that makes

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 5>low scoring extraordinarily attainable. However, as we saw all tournament law,

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, low scores are available when you're in the

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 5>right positions. In the second you get out of the position,

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 5>that's when year round often gets derailed. And while there

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 5>were sixty fours, was there sixty four every day?

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I believe maybe, I don't know. Was there a sixty

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 2>four on Saturday? I think so there might have been.

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 5>I think sixty four was the low score every day.

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 5>But it was very very rare for anybody to shoot

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 5>below with sixty six, So it wasn't like, oh, there

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 5>was a flurry of sixty fours. It was no. This

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 5>Playerson played extraordinarily well, and very few people played extraordinarily

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 5>well every day, which is what led to such a

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 5>great tournament with three players coming down the stretch with

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 5>a chance to win. One on the outside with Cam

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 5>Young who had an unbelievable finish, but three players who

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 5>had clearly separated themselves from everybody else. Now we could

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.800
<v Speaker 5>get into some nitty gritty other things that I noticed,

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 5>but I think the big overriding point about the old

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 5>course and the architecture is that it allows you to

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 5>attain scoring, but the second that you miss, you play

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 5>the wrong place, it takes away your chance to score.

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 5>And at that point it becomes about I need to

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 5>play really well. I have to hit usually a great

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 5>shot to make a par and I think that's uh,

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, when you look at the tournament, I was

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of bummed out. I requested will Zel Taurus on

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 5>Saturday because I you know, obviously he's somebody that's a

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 5>disciple of decade and very strict with how he plays

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 5>golf courses, because I wanted to talk to him about,

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, how his strategy had been going and it

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 5>had to change because there were places that you had

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 5>to play to certain spots to have chances, especially with

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 5>the way the RNA tuck pinned, and it just like

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 5>it really exhibited lines of charm and strategy. If you're

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 5>into strategy, this was the week if you understood the

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 5>golf course. And this is a tough thing with the

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 5>television is it's so hard to see in the middle

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 5>of the day with cameras that are thirty feet off

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 5>the ground, the contours and what makes these shots so hard?

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, what makes one side of the fairway harder than another,

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Because often it has to do with sight lines, you know,

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and you can say as much as you want that

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the guys know their distances, but when they've got a

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 2>big dune in front of them or a big ridge

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 2>in front of them from their angle in the fairway,

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 2>then it makes the shot harder. It just does. So, Okay,

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 2>you've said that one of the special things about the

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Old course, at least as a championship test, is that

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you can attain scoring if you're in the right positions,

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>But if you're in the wrong positions, then things can

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 2>go south quickly. What's a hole that you think exemplifies that?

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 5>So I think like obviously the sixteenth today and the

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 5>I think most people will watch. The final round was

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 5>a really great example. And we saw a play out

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 5>down the stretch early in the day. I was watching

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 5>and I saw Justin Thomas hammered to drive and a

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 5>lot of guys were hitting driver, and that was a

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 5>really smart play when the pin was on the right side.

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 5>This week the pin was on the left side twice

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 5>and on the right side twice. And the days that

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.399
<v Speaker 5>is on the right side, you could hit it over

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 5>on the left side of the fairway and just In

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 5>or in the left rough and dump it over to

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.280
<v Speaker 5>the right side of the green because there's no bunker

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 5>in there. And again, like you know, this is a

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 5>simple golf strategy. Right pin on the right, hit it left,

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 5>it opens up the green right. And then but then

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:55.760
<v Speaker 5>today with the pin on the left, you know, players

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 5>that hit driver were put into a really precarious situation.

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.720
<v Speaker 5>Even Cam Young from the fairway he had like seventy yards.

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 5>It was an unbelievable T shot. Watching that up close

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 5>him hitting T shots, he.

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Could be an extraordinary smash.

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but but from there, you know, in camp Smith,

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 5>I want to say he hit like a five iron

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 5>off the tee. It was not It was not a

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 5>three iron based off the loft, and it was an iron,

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 5>it was like a five or six iron, and he

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 5>laid back. But what that allowed him to do was

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:33.839
<v Speaker 5>to have a shot that run ran up the hill,

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 5>up the slope to get there, even though he was

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 5>on the left half. And I saw something similar on

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 5>the fourth hole with Scheffler yesterday where he laid back

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.760
<v Speaker 5>and he was a lot he was able to climb

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 5>the slope. But anyways, on sixteen Jt in the morning,

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 5>hits it to the right and hits this wedge. He's

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 5>in the perfect spot up there to kick in range,

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 5>and it was like a simple birdie. But then we

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 5>saw every leader come through. Outside of camp Smith, who

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.240
<v Speaker 5>had the makeable birdie chance, he had about twenty feet.

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 5>Everybody else came through, hit driver and hit a lot.

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 5>There were a lot of great drives that were hit,

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 5>but none of them had actual chances at Bertie because

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 5>they were in the wrong position. You know, that was

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 5>a position at that point you're playing for par like

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 5>or giving yourself a long putt at Bertie. And Rory

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 5>obviously almost made his birdie putt, but he was forty

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 5>five feet away, you know, And that was about as

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 5>good as he could have done from his position. So

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 5>I think that's like that was a really good example

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 5>late on Sunday that exemplified that where laying back actually

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 5>gave you and having a long eye I mean Smith,

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 5>I think he said he hit a six iron in there,

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 5>like that's not something you want to do, but that's

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 5>that gave him the best chance to hit it close

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 5>if he'd and nobody would take nobody'd be crazy enough

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 5>to take on the right side on purpose with the

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 5>driver because it's right, you know, off the fair away,

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 5>But with that iron, laying back was the other option

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 5>to give yourself a chance to get to that pin

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.719
<v Speaker 5>by using the slope right.

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And just to clarify, the whole moves to the

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 2>right right. So the longer you hit it, even if

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it's on the same line that Cameron Smith hit his iron,

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 2>the longer you hit it, the more left you are

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 2>in relation to the green, because the hole is moving

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>more and more away from you right, and so that

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 2>angle into the green becomes kind of more and more

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>toward the road over the green. The road's not as obviously,

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>not as close as it is on the seventeenth hole,

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's there and you have the bunkering along there.

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 2>It just makes the angle tough. And this is not

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 2>a new strategy thought about sixteen. Literally, this is what

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Alistair mackenzie was talking about in his book Golf Architecture

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Slash Spar of Saint Andrew's about what the strategy is

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 2>for the sixteenth hole that has been there for like

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, probably a couple hundred years at this point,

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:13.799
<v Speaker 2>which is amazing to me that still this kind of

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 2>quandary is being presented to players at this course in

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two.

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it was all over the

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 5>place like you saw it in. One of the other

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 5>things that the old course has and was working against

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 5>players was that wind. It was coming off the left today,

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 5>so it made it even more difficult in that case,

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 5>like a lot of times. That's the other neat thing

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 5>about the old course is how the wind. It comes

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 5>at a crosswind right for most of the course. The

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.479
<v Speaker 5>only holes that typically play into the wind are one

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 5>or into or down or one eighteen and then at

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 5>the loop eight, nine, ten eleven are the ones that

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of go into But all those other holes play

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.839
<v Speaker 5>per dominantly in the crosswind, which just makes it.

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>It makes it harder.

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 5>You need to be on the right, in the right

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 5>spot because of those crosswinds make it so hard to

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 5>get at tuck pins like they were this week. That

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 5>That's another thing that I think is just kind of

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 5>neat about it, is how when when your predominant wind

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 5>is crosswind, the holes have to move in different directions

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 5>far less if that makes sense for them to change significantly,

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 5>because when you have a crosswind and you just the

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 5>hole can go in the same direction, but it can

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 5>just jog a little differently than the last hole, and

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 5>the wind plays so drastically different.

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also crosswinds are just sort of more fun

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 2>hard wins, Yeah, I mean harder, easier, I don't know,

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Like you're into the wind, your your down wind, the

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.919
<v Speaker 2>into the wind holes become harder and the down wind

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.840
<v Speaker 2>holes might become easier, depending on how the green is designed.

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 2>But if you're talking right left strategy, if you're talking

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.879
<v Speaker 2>later strategy, which is what the old course has always

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>tried to do, and which is the thing that is

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 2>sort of going away from today's pro game, because it

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter right left where you are so much. It

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 2>just matters if you can you flip a wedge into

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the green. On the old course, it's right left strategy

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and that crosswind will accentuate it one way or the

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 2>other and give you the opportunity to make some strategic

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 2>plays off the tee. Now, the thing this week is

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that we didn't have much wind, and so that was

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit less of a factor. But in

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 2>any case, a big part of the court part of

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the course I want to hear you talk about, and

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>that jumped out at me this week in terms of

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 2>just the entertainment value and the importance to the round

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>in a way that I didn't expect was the loop.

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.280
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned it earlier. It's basically holes seven through eleven,

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 2>but i'd include twelve also in that sequence of holes

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 2>because twelve is is sort of like nine and ten,

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a short par four that's really dynamic and it's scoring profile,

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 2>if you want to call it that. But the other

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>holes in the loop include short par four, seventh, You

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>have the eighth hole, which is a par three, the

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 2>short hole, you have eleven, the edenhole, really hard par three,

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 2>and then you have those two very short par fours

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 2>nine and ten, which were drivable for most of the week.

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>This week.

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So what did you.

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Notice that at the loop? Did you enjoy that part

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>of the course as much as I did?

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it's super cool. One of the things

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 5>that's funny. The first I haven't played the course yet.

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 5>I think I might be playing it shortly after recording this, okay,

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 5>but I think fingers crossed. But the thing about it

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 5>when you walk, like the first time I watched it,

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I got out to nine and you walk on this

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 5>you see these just like extra i mean mind melting

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 5>greens the way out and obviously they're all double greens

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 5>and I kind of was trying to just look at

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 5>them in the vein of the hole that I was walking. Yeah,

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 5>and you see this like wide array of crazy greens.

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 5>And at the start of the loop is maybe the

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 5>craziest one is the eleventh and the seventh greens and

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 5>then you get eight is kind of like you're kind

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 5>of like, okay, it's a little boring, you know, it's

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 5>like this is like huge part three and this huge

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 5>like pretty flat green. Yeah, and then you go to

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<v Speaker 5>nine and you're just like, well, this hole is like

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<v Speaker 5>this hole you could put on any course like this

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<v Speaker 5>is just this revides me of like a beauty hole, right,

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<v Speaker 5>except for there's like centralized buckers. It just like reminds

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<v Speaker 5>you of like a pasture course hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, It's got this huge green, it's super flat, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're just like, well, I mean, I guess it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of and you think about it in your head, it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess it's kind of nice to have a break.

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<v Speaker 5>Like That's the way I kind of thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the tenth.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing that it saves the tenth from having

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<v Speaker 5>a similar faith if fate is the ninth is like

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<v Speaker 5>it's got this really audacious false front, which we saw

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<v Speaker 5>with Rory's hole out. You know, it's a really neat

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<v Speaker 5>front part of the green. So it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>this lull. But if you think about it from like

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<v Speaker 5>a song perspective, it's like kind of like a the

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<v Speaker 5>chilled out part of the song before you get rocket again.

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<v Speaker 4>Solo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a piano solo and like a bass solo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or it just drops away and it's just the bass

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<v Speaker 2>and the drums and.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh and then and then it ramps back up with

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<v Speaker 5>like the heart maybe the most like taxing shot on

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<v Speaker 5>the golf course with the eleventh, so you come in

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<v Speaker 5>in the seventh green is like out of the control,

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<v Speaker 5>crazy stuff happens. We saw it like Cam Cam Young

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<v Speaker 5>and on Saturday, chunk that wedge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Rory's ball is literally like what is it? Like?

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't see it land but like a foot or

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<v Speaker 5>two from being perfect. Instead it runs over to the

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<v Speaker 5>left and instead of a birdy opportunities trying to scrambling

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<v Speaker 5>to make par, it's just this like chaos spot and

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<v Speaker 5>there's that you're criss crossing there and that that nine

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<v Speaker 5>to ten is kind of like okay, we just we

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<v Speaker 5>need to like kind of chill holes after this nuts part,

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<v Speaker 5>and then eleven comes back. It's just wild, and then

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<v Speaker 5>twelve is another scoring opportunity. I think what makes it

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<v Speaker 5>is that little center section in terms of tournament golf,

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<v Speaker 5>provides this opportunity for people to go on crazy runs.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you can go through there and make you

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<v Speaker 5>could you know, seven is like you you kind of

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<v Speaker 5>think you should make a birdie eight if you hit

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<v Speaker 5>a good shot in the pinzon and the crazy you

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<v Speaker 5>can make a birdie nine. You feel like you should

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<v Speaker 5>make a two or three. Most dates ten you feel

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<v Speaker 5>like you should make a birdie, and then eleven's obviously

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be hard, you're gonna take a par every time.

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<v Speaker 5>But then twelve at the end of it, when you leave,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's really neat. It's like another birdy opportunity, so

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<v Speaker 5>you get this flurry of scoring. The other thing about

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<v Speaker 5>it is there's this communal feel. It's like an amphitheater

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<v Speaker 5>right the every you can see everything going on. I

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<v Speaker 5>was standing for most of it. I walked down to

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<v Speaker 5>near like ten T nine green to see Rory and

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<v Speaker 5>Cam play there. But I sat for a while on

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<v Speaker 5>eleven t and I could see everything going on from

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<v Speaker 5>that spot, and all the spectators there saw it. And

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<v Speaker 5>then the last part is the most exposed part of

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<v Speaker 5>the course and we didn't see this on Sunday because

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<v Speaker 5>the wind wasn't blowing. But out there that's where like

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<v Speaker 5>the conditions it gets. It's colder and it's it's windy

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<v Speaker 5>because of the estuary, the Eden estuary behind the eleventh Green.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's just listen like the hole is to me

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<v Speaker 5>like it's it doesn't it doesn't fit the golf course.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the least good hole at St. Andrews. Everybody says, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>nine and ten, maybe even throw eight in. There might

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<v Speaker 2>be the architecturally least interesting holes at Saint Andrews, especially

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<v Speaker 2>if you can can find some more features on one.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh but yeah. And knowing that going in, I

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<v Speaker 2>was fascinated how big of a role that stretch played

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<v Speaker 2>in the championship because it was such an opportunity. And

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<v Speaker 2>not only that, but if you got through there and

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't go a couple under, then you missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Rory today he played those holes one under. Basically

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<v Speaker 2>he made a birdie on ten, Yes, and he easily

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<v Speaker 2>could have gotten to twenty under by hold twelve. Easily

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<v Speaker 2>he should have, and then he could play the way

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<v Speaker 2>he played coming in, which was clearly his intention in

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<v Speaker 2>the final round was kind of to play this somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>conservative form of golf where he was really avoiding big

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<v Speaker 2>trouble and he was too putting a lot. But he

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<v Speaker 2>had to make those birdies. He had to birdie nine,

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<v Speaker 2>he had to birdie twelve. He just had to get

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<v Speaker 2>it done, and he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the things about it is like it

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<v Speaker 5>puts a little pressure when you expect to score well

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<v Speaker 5>on a hole there is like a psychological thing like

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you have to get it done. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think you know is in the way Camp Smith came

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<v Speaker 5>out of there with ten birding ten eleven twelve, you

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<v Speaker 5>know for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Well, we've spent a good amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time on what might be the least interesting holes on

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<v Speaker 2>the course, which is which is funny. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have plenty of other thoughts about Saint Andrew's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up soon. You're writing something for Tonight's newsletter, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>or what will be. I don't know when this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>is coming out, but it's going to be Monday's newsletter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure we'll get some more thoughts in the

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<v Speaker 2>coming days about what you saw out there. But thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on the pod obviously, Andy, and enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your time in Scotland.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Garrett.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode of the Frida Egg Podcast was edited by

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<v Speaker 2>me Garrett Morrison. If you've enjoyed the Fridagg's Major Championship

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