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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Dalley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Ballely Beck coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: We welcome you into the Cross Country Mortgage Campus here

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Speaker 2: in Berea. Jason Gibbs, where are my radio host? No idea.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to making fun of both of them when

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Speaker 2: they arrive.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Bishop is probably fighting through traffic if I know this

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Speaker 2: right now. Zegura, who knows, But they'll join you shortly.

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Speaker 2: Jeff helps us next to me. He likes it. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: you might come over here to co host. We are

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Speaker 2: awaiting the head coach of your Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 2: who will be coming to the podium here in just

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Speaker 2: a few moments. Coming up on the show today, you

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Speaker 2: will hear from safety one Thornhill, a little around the league,

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Speaker 2: some news going on, especially with Jonathan Taylor getting permission

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Speaker 2: to seek a trade, some injury news from around the league.

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Speaker 2: Live reaction to practice as it happens. Practice set to

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Speaker 2: go at one twenty five pm right now. As he

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Speaker 2: steps to the podium. Let's go to the podium. It's

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Speaker 2: head coach of your Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fire away, guys. Can you clarify a little bit

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Speaker 3: about Jack in this situation.

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Speaker 4: Was he out of the protocol and then went back

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Speaker 4: in or or was.

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Speaker 3: That Yeah, it's practicing as part of the protocol. Is

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Speaker 3: he how has he progressed? He's progressing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's progressing well, and then hopefully, you know, we'll

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Speaker 5: be out of it soon.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Kevin.

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Speaker 7: How valuable is it when you go against Philly one

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Speaker 7: week and then Kansas City when you're gonna played some

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Speaker 7: of your starters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, obviously talking about the two

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Speaker 5: teams in the Super Bowl last season, so getting good

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Speaker 5: work of practice versus the NFC champs last week was

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Speaker 5: was great. And then going up against the coach Reid

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Speaker 5: and the AFC champs this week obviously in practice, going

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Speaker 5: against the ones and getting a ton of reps in

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Speaker 5: this pre in this game, you know, getting our ones

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Speaker 5: out there, getting our starters out there versus they're good players.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a great challenge for us. As you know,

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Speaker 5: it's all start, it's all part of the process. Let's

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Speaker 5: all start as we get started. It's part of getting

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Speaker 5: ready for September tenth. So I think it's important for

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Speaker 5: our guys to lock in. It's why we're using this

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Speaker 5: week as a regular season schedule to get our players

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Speaker 5: used to the rhythm, used to their routine, used to

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Speaker 5: putting in new plays and that type of thing.

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Speaker 6: Kevin, we talked of want thorn Hill earlier.

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Speaker 8: Just what type of impact now that you're deep into

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Speaker 8: his camp and near in the end, what type of

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Speaker 8: impact have you seen him at on that side of

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Speaker 8: the ball as a new face coming in from.

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Speaker 9: A Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think one really has been that guy from

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Speaker 5: day one for us out here on the practice field,

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Speaker 5: in the meeting rooms. He's a guy that, as you

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Speaker 5: know and our players know, has played big and big games.

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Speaker 3: So he's been a leader right away.

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Speaker 5: That safety position, you're oftentimes getting people lined up and

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Speaker 5: communication is paramount back there, Wand does a great job

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Speaker 4: One thinking if you love a captain Europe.

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Speaker 10: The other day, are you guys going to be doing

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Speaker 4: What's the thinking?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just the natural time for those

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Speaker 5: Mary Kay, as you get into this part of camp,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna try some guys in different positions because it

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Speaker 5: helps with roster flexibility all those things. But it doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean that's where they're gonna land. You're just trying to

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Speaker 5: in some different positions. And it's not just the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: We do that really across the board at all the positions.

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Speaker 5: How do you do in Philly and you know in

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Speaker 6: What have you seen Jordan open so far?

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Speaker 4: And you expect to see a lot more of them

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, with those with players that you add

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Speaker 3: He's a pro.

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Speaker 5: He's played in some systems that I think he can

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Speaker 5: previous term. So I think he's coming along. We'll continue

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Speaker 5: to work him in there. We'll see how much he

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Speaker 5: plays in that game. But he's somebody that is earning

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Speaker 4: Kevin, make sure there are a number of questions you'd

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Speaker 4: like to get answered. Maybe Saturday, But is there one

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Speaker 3: I don't think one specifically.

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Speaker 5: As you guys know, it's everything we do is part

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Speaker 5: of getting ready for September tenth and beyond. So how

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Speaker 5: you've practiced two weeks ago versus our plan at the Jets,

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Speaker 5: the plan versus commander's plan, versus Philly, it's all ramping

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Speaker 5: up for September tenth.

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Speaker 3: So this is all part.

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Speaker 5: Of the process. It's important that we have a good

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Speaker 5: and focus on our operation and our execution.

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Speaker 9: Kevin, there's no true sacks in training camp. But when

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Speaker 9: you've watched the tape, his miles disrupted more plays.

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Speaker 4: Than he usually does. It looks like he's in the.

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Speaker 2: Backfield hold time.

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Speaker 3: It does look it looks like that because he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about the more than previous seasons.

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Speaker 3: He's a he's he's a pain in the butt for

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Speaker 5: And and and we know that with teams that we

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Speaker 5: know where he they want to know where he's gonna

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Speaker 5: line up. They're gonna try and put a tight end

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Speaker 5: ton of attention from defenses. But but he's, you know,

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Speaker 4: Is run Jerome for the practice this week?

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Speaker 3: Not this week?

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Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I don't it's yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 5: Tony uh So, really comfortable with where he is. Jalene

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Speaker 3: Not today, coach, You've.

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Speaker 10: Had an extended train to camp because we've had four

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Speaker 4: Does that help with the evaluation.

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Speaker 3: Process without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: I Mean, we looked at that Hall of Fame game

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Speaker 5: So invaluable when you talk about game reps for our

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Speaker 3: Going into this Kansas City game as well.

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Speaker 7: I know Nick hasn't played in the preseason the last

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Speaker 7: few years. Is there any need to get him any

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Speaker 3: We'll see, you know.

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Speaker 5: I try to make those decisions based on individually on

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Speaker 5: each player. As you can imagine, Nick's doing everything in

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Speaker 6: Kevin, when we've talked to.

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Speaker 11: One today, he talked about, you know, everything they achieved

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Speaker 11: when he was in Kansas City and wanting the Browns

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Speaker 11: to have a similar level of success.

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Speaker 6: While he's here.

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Speaker 11: Obviously, what does it mean when you have a player

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Speaker 11: that they have and.

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Speaker 6: What kind of impact that can have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, we place a premium on

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Speaker 5: those veterans that can come in and be great examples

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Speaker 5: I think Juan is one of many guys that we

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Speaker 5: have in that building right now that can do that.

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Speaker 5: But to your point, actually, when you've had the team's

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Speaker 5: success that he's experienced with the Chiefs. I think it

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Speaker 5: just gives instant credibility to your team that this is

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Speaker 5: a guy that knows what it takes, knows how much

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Speaker 4: Now think Shelby Harris.

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Speaker 8: Has been here for a little bit, just what have

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Speaker 6: Change your increased at all. No, I don't know that

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Speaker 5: I think we're still early in getting Shelby acclimated to

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Speaker 3: How we do it.

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Speaker 5: He's doing a very nice job. He's done everything that's

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Speaker 5: getting those teammates getting know this system. I would say so, yeah,

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Speaker 5: pre season, but if Nasty promised to be able to

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Speaker 5: seen it all spring and throughout this summer and obviously

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Speaker 5: You know, we're playing very aggressively up front, playing sam

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Speaker 5: in the back end. It's it's important for us to

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Speaker 5: Okay, thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: All right. There you go. That's Coach Stefanski at the

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Speaker 4: podium here at the start of practice. Welcome in Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: Browns Daily, merely both the Great z Gibbe is here.

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Speaker 4: We're outside, glad we've got your mic up well so

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Speaker 4: we could hear you. We did get it up.

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Speaker 2: We got it.

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Speaker 4: We're saying you see so you here, coach there, we're

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Speaker 4: running down the stretch here, all right, so just let's

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Speaker 4: just do it now. Gibbe's not pleased there was a miscommunication.

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Speaker 2: Why is he not?

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Speaker 4: Please? He's not pleased that you and I weren't out

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Speaker 12: It's radio though.

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Speaker 4: Now to be fair, this is this was not There

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Speaker 4: was no ill intent, no, and I believe that my

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Speaker 4: what I would say, I figured.

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Speaker 2: You were stuck in traffic because of this one twenty

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Speaker 4: I was not. No, they were well organized in Boria.

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Speaker 4: That's how this happened. Now, I hope that you do

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Speaker 4: We got live. And I think because of our versatility,

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Speaker 4: That's right, So here we go. We're a training camp.

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Speaker 4: We made him smile. Well, that's good. It was a

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Speaker 12: Anyway, it's game week already, it's a two Yeah, time

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Speaker 4: Know, knocking things out, knocking things out. That's the way

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Speaker 4: I feel like i've within a reason, yeah, within reason

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like the idea that there's there are fans out

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Speaker 4: I know why it is because we Greenbrier, we did

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Speaker 12: And to be honest with you, you know, is your point?

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Speaker 4: Sophomore for Buckets and Boods. Is the big dude on campus.

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Speaker 4: There's no bigger there's no bigger dichotomy of running things.

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Speaker 12: It's kind of like, I imagine what some of our young

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Speaker 12: is though You're right and it doesn't happen both ways,

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Speaker 4: So this will not be like we're we're we're onto

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is quote unquote training camp still, but yeah,

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Speaker 12: And you can see from the guys out there today

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Speaker 4: It would appear it doesn't. I don't see pads.

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Speaker 12: It looks like shorts and shells maybe today, So it's

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Speaker 12: Yeah, today's like a real we we're doing now, We're

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Speaker 4: So is this install Cincinnati or Install Kansas City. Everything

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati. You may do a few things for Kansas City

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Speaker 4: In the in the opener, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 12: One thing I wanted to bring it up real quick

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the restructuring of Joel bitone? This is

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Speaker 4: Who are we going to get?

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Speaker 12: I just write back Aaron Donald to all this so funny,

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Speaker 12: That's what I said this morning.

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Speaker 4: what does this mean? I said, it means they're gonna

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Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent.

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Speaker 12: That this is this money is going to be needed

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Speaker 12: do so. But this is this was on ninety nine

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Speaker 12: percent to be able to roll this money over into

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty four when you actually need it.

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Speaker 4: So that's I want people.

447
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Speaker 12: To have that and understand that that's that's why this

448
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Speaker 12: was done. Something they knew they were going to have

449
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Speaker 12: to do, so they got it out of the way,

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Speaker 12: and it is being done with the with the thought

451
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Speaker 12: behind it being that this money, this thirty four million,

452
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Speaker 12: will carry over to next year when we're like I

453
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Speaker 12: think currently we're over the cap right now, next year significantly,

454
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Speaker 12: like this would just chip away at that.

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Speaker 4: Yep. So that's that's what I think we're dealing with here.

456
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Speaker 4: I would say one thing that you ought to feel

457
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Speaker 4: pretty comfortable with as a Browns fan is that your

458
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Speaker 4: front office is looking two, three, five years in advance,

459
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Speaker 4: and this operation is currently constructed at the top of

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Speaker 4: it is not going to be in a position where

461
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Speaker 4: they are in salary cap jail, and they will do

462
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Speaker 4: whatever is necessary to make sure that they're not. Now

463
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Speaker 4: that only works if you have ownership that is also

464
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Speaker 4: willing to do that, because what you're doing is you're

465
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Speaker 4: you're transferring into guaranteed money in the immediate and so

466
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Speaker 4: that takes ownerships buy in as well, and you have

467
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Speaker 4: that in spades here. So that's that's the thing that

468
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Speaker 4: you ought to feel very fortunate about. That you can

469
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Speaker 4: you control every draft pick you get being a star, no,

470
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Speaker 4: but if you what you can control is being being

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Speaker 4: good at business. And we are very good at business

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Speaker 4: under this regime.

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Speaker 12: I'm glad you pointed out two things. Number one, how

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Speaker 12: good and how smart and how forward thinking our front

475
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Speaker 12: office is to be able to move things around, restructure

476
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Speaker 12: these deals, work with our players, make deals that allow

477
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Speaker 12: us to go get guys like Zadarius Smith, because that

478
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Speaker 12: was a very complex deal beyond what people think about, Oh,

479
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Speaker 12: it was just the picks. Are a lot of economic

480
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Speaker 12: complexities involved in that deal, and the Browns actually felt

481
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Speaker 12: I was told that, you know, they're only handful of

482
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Speaker 12: teams they could have done that trade with. It would

483
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Speaker 12: have also kind of gotten what they were doing. And

484
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Speaker 12: obviously Quasi coming from here was certainly one of those

485
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Speaker 12: teams that was able to do that with that. So

486
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Speaker 12: they're very forward thinking. We are very fortunate in that regard.

487
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Speaker 12: We are also incredibly fortunate, and I think it's about

488
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Speaker 12: time that the haslms get their due to your point

489
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Speaker 12: you just made, they are willing to spend money, and

490
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Speaker 12: we are very lucky. We have owners that have very

491
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Speaker 12: deep pockets that have done very well for themselves, but

492
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Speaker 12: that are also willing to spend And when I say

493
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Speaker 12: that this isn't these aren't fake numbers over the last

494
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Speaker 12: two years.

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Speaker 4: Here is cash spending in the NFL. This is cash.

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Speaker 12: The league average is four hundred and ten million dollars

497
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Speaker 12: of cash spending.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 12: The Cleveland Browns five hundred and sixteen million, that's number one,

500
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Speaker 12: number two, the Jags four hundred and sixty eight. So

501
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Speaker 12: we're talking fifty million above everybody else in the NFL.

502
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Speaker 12: Above anybody else in the NFL. Is the cash that

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Speaker 12: they've been willing to put into this team. And they're

504
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Speaker 12: currently lead for twenty twenty three. That was twenty twenty one,

505
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Speaker 12: twenty twenty two. Those those numbers I gave you, currently

506
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Speaker 12: in the lead to do that again this year. So

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Speaker 12: this is one of the ways that they're able to

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Speaker 12: do this is with the cash. Is because the owner

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Speaker 12: is willing to do it, and that'll gives them a

510
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Speaker 12: lot more salary cap flexibility where they can convert things

511
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Speaker 12: into bonuses that need to be paid immediately and all

512
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Speaker 12: of that. So that is one of the things that

513
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Speaker 12: are very smart. For example, take Dalvin Tomlinson's deal this year,

514
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Speaker 12: and this says some of the stuff'm getting from got

515
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Speaker 12: to give a shout out to the Orange and Brown

516
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Speaker 12: report because they had a guy who broke all this down.

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Speaker 4: Really really well.

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Speaker 12: The way that they structured Dalvin Tomlinson's contract was in

519
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Speaker 12: twenty twenty three, he actually is getting sixteen million of

520
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Speaker 12: cash but only counts four million against the salary cap.

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Speaker 12: So you have an owner who was willing to put

522
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Speaker 12: out extra money for cash that benefits the salary cap

523
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Speaker 12: in the overall structure of the team. So that is

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Speaker 12: an awesome thing that you see don't see everywhere, and

525
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Speaker 12: you certain don't see everywhere in the league, and that

526
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Speaker 12: you see from the Brown. So one of the things,

527
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Speaker 12: and that has will be the first that say, you know,

528
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Speaker 12: we've had some bumps the road. They will do whatever

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Speaker 12: it takes to win, and they will pay whatever it

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Speaker 12: takes to win. They are doing everything from their standpoint

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Speaker 12: that they can to empower the people that they have

532
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Speaker 12: hired and give them every possible resource there.

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Speaker 4: There are no such there's no such thing as a

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Speaker 4: sure thing when it comes to evaluating a player. There's

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Speaker 4: no such thing as sure thing when it comes to

536
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Speaker 4: evaluating somebody through the draft, through free agency, through trades.

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Speaker 4: There's no way of knowing absolutely that that any of

538
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Speaker 4: this stuff is going to work. But what I think

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Speaker 4: is most important is the last point you made, and

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Speaker 4: that is a willingness to try anything to to try

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Speaker 4: to land the plane here. And that is the relentlessness

542
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Speaker 4: of it all is such a tremendous thing and that's

543
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Speaker 4: what allows for it. And so yeah, I think this

544
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Speaker 4: is a at the from the at the very top

545
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Speaker 4: when you think about the you know, the decision makers

546
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Speaker 4: at the top, whether it's you know, Paul or A

547
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Speaker 4: B or everybody who's working on that side of the operation.

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Speaker 4: You want to be nimble, yes, So yeah, this is

549
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Speaker 4: ninety nine percent about next year and trying to find

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Speaker 4: flexibility and making sure you're not in cap jail a

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Speaker 4: year from now. It's that, but it's also if there

552
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Speaker 4: is an opportunity you could go it's also yes, there's

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Speaker 4: that same It's also right you give yourself the ability

554
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Speaker 4: to outspend the competition, You give yourself the ability to

555
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Speaker 4: be incredibly flexible that and you also put yourself and

556
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Speaker 4: I'd kind of call it like it's a little bit

557
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Speaker 4: of insurance money, right, so that one injury to a

558
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: position other than quarterback does not derail what you're trying

559
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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 12: That you would be able to make a move to

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Speaker 12: deal with the loss of one or more key players

562
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Speaker 12: as well. But I think the reality is it is

563
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Speaker 12: this money is most likely going to be going into.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four when the Browns need it the most.

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Speaker 12: Is you eloquently pointed out, great job, great job getting there,

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Speaker 12: great job leaning their great comments in addition to your

567
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Speaker 12: big b.

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Speaker 4: This is why we work. This is why why the

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Speaker 4: operation works. It all sorts of itself out.

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Speaker 12: That's why Gibbe is often during shows sipping pina coladas,

571
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Speaker 12: has his feet up.

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Speaker 4: Because you're to worry about, nothing to worry about, nothing

573
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Speaker 4: to worry about. Here from one to three, a couple

574
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Speaker 4: of pro plug in look out. That's it everybody takes.

575
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Speaker 4: Does there even need to be in the same location?

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Speaker 4: Is that something anywhere you like to be? Anywhere he wants,

577
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Speaker 4: anywhere you like.

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Speaker 12: Today he was outside in the sun near the beach.

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Speaker 12: There's the sand beach volleyball set up by where Gibbe

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Speaker 12: was hanging out.

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Speaker 4: Did you play some beach volleyballs a youth, Gibbe?

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Speaker 2: I did. I played a beg I played on the

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Speaker 2: club team.

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Speaker 4: I bet you did. I bet you did. I bet

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Speaker 4: they saw that drink of water walk into beg it said,

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Speaker 4: we got a spot for you. Cartie was good.

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Speaker 12: It was good.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you're a net John Smith. Yeah, two men? Did

590
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Speaker 12: you play two men? Because you got to do everything

591
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Speaker 12: in two mans?

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Speaker 2: Don't want to I could not do that.

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Speaker 12: You gotta be you gotta be a five tool player.

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Speaker 12: You gotta be able to set it, you gotta build

595
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Speaker 12: a bump it. You gotta be able to spike it.

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Speaker 12: You very average servant, and then you got to be

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Speaker 12: able to stop the spikes and dicks.

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Speaker 4: And maybe you need to be a six tool player.

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Speaker 4: You do everything. What's the ideal uh count for beach volleyball?

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Speaker 4: On at five?

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Speaker 3: A five?

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Speaker 4: A five?

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Speaker 12: Or yeah, two back, one guy in the middle who

604
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 12: can float up then be your center.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you like that size? All right, very good. We

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Speaker 4: are stretching too much. Six is too much. I was

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Speaker 4: gonna I could go four. I think four is good

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Speaker 4: because then you're running. I could do three two because

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Speaker 4: then you got one up, two back, and you cover,

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Speaker 4: you can fly you kind of you know track, that's possible.

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Speaker 4: You got it. That's kind of like the pickle ball

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Speaker 4: revolution that's going on right now. It's such an easy

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Speaker 4: sport to pick up and play that it's kind of

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Speaker 4: sweeping the nation. What they're finding is that nobody wants

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Speaker 4: to watch it on television, which you could have told

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Speaker 4: anybody that that was just not going to work on TV.

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Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean that it's not a really fun

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Speaker 4: sport to play. I've never played it, I've never hit it.

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Speaker 4: You'd pick it up in a second and a half. It's

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Speaker 4: a it's a whiffle ball, it's a it's a win.

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Speaker 4: The thing that's interesting about it though, is the two

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Speaker 4: on two pick a ball. There's not a lot of

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Speaker 4: movement too. But if you play one on one, then

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Speaker 4: your moving. Now you got a little workout.

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Speaker 12: You get a little work out of there, got it,

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Speaker 12: I got it.

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Speaker 4: That's the way that goes. We'll continue to have observations

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Speaker 4: very early in the camp practice day, the guys just

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Speaker 4: practice underway out here, guys getting a little bit loose,

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Speaker 4: let's just set the table. Who's here and who's not?

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Speaker 4: I thought I saw him kind of walking around. It's

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Speaker 4: just in hats.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they're in hats. I think they're maybe in shells.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, Schwartz is not practicing. It does not appear.

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Speaker 12: It looks like Joel Battonio got a vet day as

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Speaker 12: he's kind of just standing around. I'm trying to see

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Speaker 12: over there, but I can't. They haven't. They haven't had

663
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 12: that kind of group out here. Yeah, in Beria. Well,

664
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 12: we heard coach say Jalen Darden is not practicing, although

665
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 12: he's kind of going through these warm ups right now.

666
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 12: I see Jalen Darden in these warm ups.

667
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: You see him out there.

668
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 12: You see see the offensive line really taking these U

669
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 12: sprints seriously.

670
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: Really getting after it. Aren't they just sporting it out

671
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: a little bit?

672
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Speaker 12: Yeah, So, no, Botonio looks like everybody else on the

673
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 12: offensive line. Conklin's out there, everybody else that you want

674
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 12: to see.

675
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: And then no, he said.

676
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 12: Schwartz looks like everybody else is there else and you

677
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 12: want to see ja Qem Grant. That's somebody that one

678
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 12: of the things that I really want to watch in

679
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 12: this this week and then even against the Chiefs is

680
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 12: is Jaqem Grant because right now, you know you're thinking

681
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 12: about putting him on the team as a specialist basically

682
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 12: as just as a returner.

683
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that really is his function.

684
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 12: He's got a thousand yards receiving his career, so you know,

685
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 12: maybe you're get to get something out of him there,

686
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 12: but for the most part, that's what you're doing. In fact,

687
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 12: is we're looking at right now. I don't even see

688
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 12: him in line to be doing the wide receiver drills,

689
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 12: and it doesn't I.

690
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: Did see him running.

691
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 12: I did.

692
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: He's over there, way down at that end returning a punt.

693
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 12: All right, So they're doing punt in return so that

694
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 12: but that's why he's doing that. So, like I said,

695
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 12: if he makes it, he's making it basically as a specialist.

696
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: And I was talking with somebody sim and Felton there

697
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: and then who is that I'm trying to see that

698
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: Elijah might be Elijah. Yeah, Elijah Moore's down there as well.

699
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: Number eight go ahead.

700
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 12: One of the things I think is really interesting about

701
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 12: putting together this final fifty three man roster is this,

702
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 12: and I'm gonna run this by you. This is somebody

703
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 12: said this to me, and I'd never heard this it

704
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 12: articulated this way, and I thought it was really interesting.

705
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 12: I think think of putting together the fifty three man

706
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 12: roster as trying to put together the best fifty three players.

707
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: For one game. Yeah, right, right, And.

708
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 12: So that would afford you the luxury of having a

709
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 12: bunch of guys on your roster, for example, that are

710
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 12: just purely special teams guys but wouldn't make your team

711
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 12: if they had to play their position, right, right, But

712
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 12: when you're creating a roster that's actually for a football season, yep,

713
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 12: you don't necessarily have those luxuries because it is likely, unfortunately,

714
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 12: do the nature of this game, that at some point

715
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 12: you're gonna need them to play the position that they

716
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 12: occupy on your roster. Yeah, and so the notion that

717
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 12: you can have, you know, six guys on your team

718
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 12: just because they're special team studs, no, but what in

719
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 12: play for you at their natural position, I think is

720
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 12: that might be one of the fallacies that were grappling

721
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 12: with here, and one of the things that may change

722
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 12: ultimately what this roster looks like.

723
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: And I think we got a hint.

724
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 12: I don't know if it was a hint or not

725
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 12: for the roster, but I'll take it as a little

726
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 12: bit of a hint. But the fact that we saw

727
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 12: you know, Dewan playing left tackle and James Hudson playing

728
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 12: some guard yep, in practice. And I talked to Duan

729
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 12: Dowan about it today and he goes, I haven't done

730
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 12: that since like maybe high school or junior high as

731
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 12: in playing left tackle, and he was not as pleased

732
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 12: with how went, although on tape he looked fine, but

733
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 12: I think that it just probably felt very unnatural to him.

734
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: And I think James Hudson did a good job at guard.

735
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: But that's trying.

736
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 12: I think in my mind, let's try to get some

737
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 12: roster flexibility here, you know, and maybe in that offensive

738
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 12: line room where you don't have to keep a traditional

739
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 12: guard if you know, Hudson can slide in there, if

740
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 12: Harris can side in there, or knowing that it's probably

741
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 12: more likely that we will get one of you know,

742
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 12: Drew Forbes if he's healthy, Michael Dunn, os Martin, Colby Gosset,

743
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 12: one of those four will be they're not all getting

744
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 12: signed out to fifty three, so one would be able

745
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 12: to be on our practice squad, which means they're basically

746
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 12: on our roster, and they could be up for game day.

747
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 12: So I think there's a lot of stuff to move around.

748
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 12: But that notion of trying to put together the ultimate

749
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 12: fifty three for one game versus fifty three for a

750
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 12: course of a season, and I thought that was a

751
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 12: real It was such an obvious comment, but it was

752
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 12: one that I had never heard phrase that way where

753
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 12: I was like, yeah, you know what that's actually So

754
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 12: that's spot up.

755
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: Do that conversation with the let's use Jeqem Grant. Okay,

756
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: so now he at his best, he was elite, the

757
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: best at what he did, elite, So if he can

758
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: get back to that then and the risk reward of

759
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: that is, hey can win you a game, that can

760
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 4: win us a game, and he's only doing this and

761
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: that's okay. In a pinch. Could he play receiver, yes, yes,

762
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: but it's mostly for that in an ideal situation. What

763
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: you're I think the simplest for the folks out there.

764
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 4: You are looking at linebackers, wide receivers, and running backs.

765
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: I mean, these are all the specialists, right, yep. You're

766
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: not looking at gunners in this. You will take a

767
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: guy who is this and if you can turn into

768
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: this and then and make the best out of it.

769
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: In other words, you want them best at their position.

770
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 12: Correct, correct, And I think that's where you know some

771
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 12: guys that you know, Matthew Adams, for example, who we

772
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 12: haven't seen, who we know is one of the best

773
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 12: special teams players in the league. You know, would that

774
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 12: Browns feel comfortable putting them out there at linebacker. If

775
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 12: the answer to that is yes, then he is. I

776
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 12: think he's one hundred percent on the roster. If the

777
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 12: answer that's no, With the way that Diabad's played with

778
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 12: you got Kunashik, you know, a walk and tackle play

779
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 12: special teams, then maybe that changes the calculus in that room, right,

780
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 12: same thing in the cornerback room. I think cam Mitchell

781
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 12: is clearly your fifth corner. So the question then becomes

782
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 12: Mike Ford, who was brought here for special teams prows?

783
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 12: Is he so good at special teams A and B?

784
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 12: Does he also? Is he somebody that if we need

785
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 12: to try it out against the Cincinnati Bengals and play corner?

786
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 12: If they have confidence that he can do that. And

787
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 12: if the answer to that both of those is yes,

788
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 12: then he makes the team. If the answer is to

789
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 12: you know, one of those two is no, then he

790
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 12: doesn't make the team. So I think those are and

791
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 12: that's where we all know the pressure points are. You know,

792
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 12: it's funny when you think about this roster. Normally this

793
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 12: time of year, you know, you're scouring the waiver wire,

794
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 12: You're scouring cutdowns to try to find, you know, and

795
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 12: fill those guys in. We are so deep there are

796
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 12: on the defensive side of the ball. I know for

797
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 12: a fact that we have more defensive ends that we

798
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 12: feel are fifty three quality, then we'll be able to keep.

799
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 12: We have more safeties that we feel are fifty three quality,

800
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 12: then we'll be able to keep. We have more corners

801
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 12: that are fifty three quality, we'll be able to keep,

802
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 12: and more on the in the line backing room. So

803
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 12: then you flip it around the offense. They feel the

804
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 12: same way about all of the positions at scept one

805
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 12: which is running back, which is the one thing that

806
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 12: you know, we expect them to continue to monitor and

807
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 12: maybe that's where we find a new third running back.

808
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 12: I liked what I saw from Jordan Wilkins, but he's

809
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 12: got a little pop. There's not a whole lot of

810
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 12: work to be done on this roster. It's going to

811
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 12: be a pairing down, and it's going to be a

812
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 12: pairing down and what they think is the best for

813
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 12: a season, not just one game. And so I think

814
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 12: it leads to interesting decisions, interesting calculations. And you know,

815
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 12: part of it too is you know, if you have

816
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 12: a guy here on a one year deal, if you

817
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 12: have somebody that's in your herd building for the next

818
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 12: three years and they're about the same, you're probably gonna

819
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 12: go with the guy that's gonna be here that you

820
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 12: have a chance to really develop and is probably a

821
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 12: cheaper option at that point.

822
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 4: So there's a lot that's going to happen.

823
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 12: I think in this next week that is going to

824
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 12: be really fascinating because these ninety in the blink of

825
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 12: an eye are gonna be fifty three and now you're

826
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 12: gonna get practice squad guys, so you'll be around right

827
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 12: around you know, like seventy total. But that's a big

828
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 12: change of people that are in your program and then

829
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 12: no longer in your program.

830
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: It is three d chess putting a roster together. Yep.

831
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: It's several different planes you're playing on, yeah, at once,

832
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 4: and so it isn't as straightforward as as you would

833
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: lead to believe, or maybe that you thought it was

834
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 4: probably the better way to phrase it. The other thing,

835
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: all of that to be said, this roster is going

836
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: to come down to a couple of spots, like there

837
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: are so many locked in it might not be it.

838
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: I would feel. I feel very confident with what we

839
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: did last Friday when we did like the positional breakdowns

840
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: per room. Yep, I think that holds up very well

841
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. That the names might be a little,

842
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: but not much. I don't think I think it's I

843
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: think it's a couple of spots here and there, agreed.

844
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 12: I think like defensive tackle might be the only room

845
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 12: where there's a true competition between a couple of guys

846
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 12: for one spot. Yeah, you know some of the others

847
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 12: are going to be linebacker. You could say that as

848
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 12: well with the way diabodies played, but you know it's

849
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 12: gonna be more of Okay, we keep five safeties, well,

850
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 12: that means we can only keep five corners, or we

851
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 12: keep six corners. We can only keep four safeties. If

852
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 12: we keep you know, five linebackers, maybe we can keep

853
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 12: eleven dbs. How many you keep in very I think

854
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 12: that's gonna be that's gonna shape a lot of the answers.

855
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 12: How many are kept in various rooms is gonna have

856
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 12: a great impact on what this ultimate fifty three looks like.

857
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 12: And then I think that goes back to you know,

858
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 12: it's gonna come down to special teams prowess, special team's ability,

859
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 12: but also how they feel about you in the event

860
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 12: that they've got you've got to play at some point,

861
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 12: and that's where a guy like for to me, the

862
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 12: guy who's helped himself the most with what they've done

863
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 12: this offseason was Jordan Kanashik because he was clearly a

864
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 12: plus special teams guy, but he busted his butt so

865
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 12: much at linebacker that in Tarv's mind, you know, he's

866
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 12: maybe our most reliable, dependable linebacker. So if that's the case,

867
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 12: that certainly helps a guy like that make your roster.

868
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: That's it's you imagine that, like you're like, what had

869
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: to be done between spring and now for Kanashu to

870
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: get to the point that he's in the work that

871
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: had to go into where now like it's we've seen

872
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: it a lot throughout camp, where he's running with the

873
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 4: ones like he's out there doing I mean, that's that's

874
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: a tremendous to go from that standing. That's personal accountability.

875
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: And guess what else that is? That's trust. Yes, you

876
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 4: know why Tarf loves him because he can trust him.

877
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 4: It's exactly right. That's and that's what a coach wants.

878
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 12: A coach wants consistency and the ability to trust that

879
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 12: you will be in your position that you're supposed to

880
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 12: be and doing the job that you're supposed to be doing.

881
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 4: Or watching it. I mean, Gibby Uber eat some Tito's.

882
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: It looks like it looked like he did. There a

883
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: couple of bottles coming your way, Gibby, and right in

884
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: front of us.

885
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 12: That sound you're hearing is the running backs working on

886
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 12: the blocking sled, and so far, I would say that

887
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 12: there's Nick Chubb.

888
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: Power is in its own class.

889
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 12: I think Wilkins was number two in terms of his

890
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 12: ability to move that sled there.

891
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: I don't often feel sorry. Was he the first one

892
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: to go?

893
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 12: No?

894
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: That was John Kelly, John Kelly loquid.

895
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: He gave it a nice little bro.

896
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: I don't often feel sorry for foam, padding and steel. Yeah,

897
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: but when Nick Chubb hits this thing, I do a little. Yeah.

898
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 12: It's it because you're an EmPATH, you're an mpath.

899
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: I know a lot of love in mind thinks it's

900
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: beautiful about you.

901
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

902
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: I have a lot of a lot of understanding. Yeah,

903
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: even for the inanimate, even for those without feelings.

904
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

905
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's where you're at. That's what you got

906
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: going on out here. Still still very much in the

907
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: positional warm up phase. Oh geez, how much your middle

908
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: linebacker he's coming through the whole full speed thirty two dive.

909
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: Give me the number to get in his way? Yeah,

910
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: you can be padded to attempt to attack Oklahoma drill you,

911
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb. What's the number? A million?

912
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 12: I think that's the jumping off point. I mean I'll most.

913
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: Likely live, you would.

914
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, that feels like a good number. It feels

915
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 12: like a number. It feels like that could allow I

916
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 12: mean it could.

917
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: Do permanent damage.

918
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 12: Now forty like it could do permanent I would have

919
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 12: no problem, Like do I have to complete this in

920
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 12: a satisfactory manner? Could I just like kind of go

921
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 12: and then just kind of roll down and hope that

922
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 12: he trips on me.

923
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: No, I think you have to form to you have

924
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: to attempt to Oklahoma, drill it. Yeah, you got to

925
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: try to form tackle it, Okay, I mean I'll try it. Yeah.

926
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: I mean you're probably looking at a separated shoulder minimum

927
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: broken collarbone. It's not gonna go well, whoever funds this

928
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: I'm in. Do you think it's more likely you could

929
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 4: tackle him in that or could you Is it more

930
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: likely you could tackle Nick Chubb over and over over

931
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 4: the course of an hour once or make a hole

932
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: in one on the hole at Pebble Beach in twenty

933
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: four hours.

934
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 12: I mean, I suppose it's possible he could like trip

935
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 12: so like he runs me over, but then like trips

936
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 12: on my trips on, falls down and get tackled.

937
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: I feel like.

938
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 12: I feel like that's possible.

939
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: Scratch, I would take me, I take I would take

940
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: you golfing, That's what I feel like that would be.

941
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 4: You're gonna make I.

942
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 12: Thought you're gonna say, like, could I complete a pass? No?

943
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 4: No, No, I think there's no question that you could

944
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 4: uh that that you'd make a hole in one before

945
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: you'd be able to tackle Nick Chubb over and over

946
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: again in an hour, like especially if Jim tripping and

947
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: falling didn't count. I think anything that brings him to

948
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: the ground is a win though, But I think he's

949
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb and it's gonna take a lot. It's gonna

950
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: take almost an accident.

951
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 12: Well, and another thing too, is like my ability to

952
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 12: do that would have to happen at the very beginning,

953
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 12: because my first five reps are the only ones entered.

954
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 12: Like give me a give me the golf club in

955
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 12: my hand.

956
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: You might even be it might actually be smarter to

957
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: like whiff for the first twenty minutes in hopes of tiring,

958
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: to get him tired, and then maybe you could get

959
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: him later. So that's possible as well. We will go

960
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 4: around the NFL coming up next. Keep painting the picture

961
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,360
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962
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963
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964
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968
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: camp practice very early, just some warm up stuff, little

969
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: individual stuff going to Sean Watson, uh pay play action

970
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 4: against air to Amari that looks good against humans or

971
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: against air. As we go around the NFL, Bake named

972
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: the starting quarterback in Tampa Bay. That happened. Did you

973
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: see the other stuff with him with the family.

974
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awful.

975
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: Awful.

976
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 12: I hope it's not. I mean, it feels like it

977
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 12: is true. I hope it isn't true. I hope that

978
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 12: when they inquire, because right now it's not a lawsuit.

979
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: They're just inquiring.

980
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 12: But believe they get the answers they're looking for and

981
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 12: it's not what this appears to be on paper.

982
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: So if you missed this story, there and Baker and

983
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: his wife Emily, who we remember quite well from their

984
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: time here, of course, are inquiring to figure out where

985
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: twelve million dollars is. That's right. And the people in

986
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: charge of where the money was supposed to be were

987
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: his dad. Yeah, and that's.

988
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 12: Brutal, the firm that his dad and his brother worked at, right, Yeah.

989
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 4: So this is not That just makes me so sad

990
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: when that's happens. There was a blue jacket player I

991
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: covered named Jack Johnson, whose folks and he was like

992
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 4: number three pick in the NHL draft, Like he'd made

993
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: like forty fifty million dollars in the league, and his

994
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: parents basically lost all of it in southern California to

995
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: the point where he was he had to start from scratch,

996
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: and at that point he was laid into his career.

997
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: And at that point in your career, you're just not

998
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: going to be able to stack it like you can

999
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 4: at the beginning of your career. So sad stuff there.

1000
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: As for on the field, I don't get this in

1001
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: any way, I don't understand it.

1002
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 12: I mean, obviously in their mind they feel like he

1003
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 12: was that much better than Trask, although Trass played very

1004
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 12: well last week and he was twenty to twenty eight,

1005
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 12: and that they think they must be thinking the NFC

1006
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 12: is so bad, what's to stop us from winning our division?

1007
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 12: Like who's who's winning that division? Probably the Saints probably,

1008
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 12: But I mean it's not like you're like, oh man,

1009
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 12: they're gangbusters. The Anthers aren't gangbusters. The Falcons. Falcons might

1010
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 12: be the surprise team that is one of those you

1011
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 12: know better regular season teams than they are postseason. You know,

1012
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 12: where they could take their kind of unique attack on

1013
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 12: the road and zig when everybody's zagging. But that's not

1014
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 12: going to get them anywhere of consequence. But my guess

1015
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 12: is that the Bucks think they still have a lot

1016
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 12: of stars on that team that maybe they can do it,

1017
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 12: and Baker gives them the best chance to do that.

1018
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: Two things. One, were you aware that the AFC South

1019
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: plays the NFC South this year? That's gonna be some

1020
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a steady diet of Andrew cattle On

1021
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: and Solomon Willcotts straight to the south of this country

1022
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 4: broadcasting those games. That's a little Adam Arcoletta for you.

1023
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, a steady problematic though here, because that's how you

1024
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 12: end up with one of those teams in the AFC

1025
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 12: all of a sudden buying for a playoff spot because.

1026
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: One of them is one of them is going to

1027
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: host the game. It'll be It'll be Jacksonville. So they're legit.

1028
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: Jacksonville could win eleven games, but twelve.

1029
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: Is someone else going to come out of nowhere because

1030
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 2: they're playing.

1031
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 12: That problem is that makes like Tennessee possible.

1032
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: That's what I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that

1033
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 4: the same thing. From the NFC side of it, they're

1034
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: thinking the same thing. Hell, two of us could make

1035
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: the postseason. Yeah, you know so, yeah, it's that part

1036
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 4: of its brutal. I think that two things that I'm

1037
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: curious about, Like they made like a big deal about

1038
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: naming Bake the starter, and I'm happy for him that

1039
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: he won the job, but this is probably the last

1040
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: time that you could make a big deal about him

1041
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 4: being named the starter, Like, wherever he goes from here,

1042
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: this is his fourth team. I'm aware. I'm aware, Buddy.

1043
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 4: The other thing, and I said this years ago about him,

1044
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: and at the time it certainly was not meant as slight.

1045
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: It was taken that way. He is a tremendous front runner.

1046
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: Now that's gonna be really positive when things are going

1047
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: well and he feels like there is belief in him

1048
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: and he believes and teammates and he's everything that John

1049
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 4: Dorsey liked in the draft from the standpoint of pied Piper,

1050
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: and people follow him and he's fun in the locker room.

1051
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: He's clever, he's quick, he's all of those things.

1052
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 12: People like him, Teammates like him until they don't right,

1053
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 12: and then it's gone.

1054
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: And that's what when I saw a front runner. When

1055
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: that when you go off the cliff with that, it's

1056
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: pointing over return. And we saw that here and we

1057
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: saw that in Carolina.

1058
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 12: Oh he's got he's gonna have a locker room that

1059
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 12: has people that have won Super Bowls, a locker room

1060
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 12: of very established players. So he's gonna I think, in

1061
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 12: that case, he's going to have to kind of fit in.

1062
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 12: It's not like he's brought in to be the savior there.

1063
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 12: You know, he's obviously following Tom Brady. That's not easy

1064
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 12: to do, you know. And you got a guy in

1065
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 12: Mike Evans who is the only player ever to start

1066
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 12: their career with nine straight thousand yard seasons.

1067
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of responsibility.

1068
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 12: I think it comes with making sure that that gets

1069
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 12: the ten straight seasons.

1070
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: I agree.

1071
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 12: So the good news is you got Evans, you got Godwin,

1072
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 12: You've got a defense that has a lot of names

1073
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 12: that people know. So I think they have a chance.

1074
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 12: And hopefully he comes out and he can play well.

1075
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 12: If he if he does, great, If he doesn't, you know,

1076
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 12: this is probably that's probably it. But we've seen flashes

1077
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 12: from we know he can be. I mean that that

1078
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 12: second half of twenty twenty when he had what twenty touchdowns,

1079
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 12: two picks yea through the playoffs, he was great.

1080
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: He really was. The Colts are letting Jonathan Taylor seek

1081
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 4: a trade. That escalated quickly that from a few innocuous

1082
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 4: comments at the start of camp to I'm gone to

1083
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: go ahead look for a trade. Who's going to do that?

1084
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: So talking to a Colt skuy this morning who was

1085
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: telling me that you know, they want to one, and

1086
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, fantastic. We have to give a pull

1087
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: and you have to pay him. Yeah, So who's going

1088
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: to do that? At least? Yeah, you have to redo

1089
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: the contract and you have to pay him. I think

1090
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: it would be more likely that they would get I'm

1091
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: thinking the lines of what the Carolina got for McCaffrey.

1092
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Speaker 4: But it's gonna have to be a contender. It's gonna

1093
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Speaker 4: have to be a team that feels like they're a

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00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: player away, and it's going to be somebody that It's

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00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: possible though that he was He's seen the running on

1096
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: the wall at the running back position, and maybe he

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00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: won't seek to reset the market and rather just play

1098
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: somewhere else. Yeah, what is there any team that seems

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00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: like a no brainer.

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Speaker 12: No Billy. I can think as if you take a

1101
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 12: team that's got like an aging running back that they're

1102
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 12: going to have to pay that, they would say, we'll

1103
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 12: just give you our aging guy and a draft pick,

1104
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 12: and you give us the younger version of him.

1105
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: I think the top five places right now, according to

1106
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: our friends in Vegas, Okay, are like Miami number one.

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Speaker 2: I think the Bears are in the top five. The

1108
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: Bills are in the top five. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think they're just trying to link running backs to

1110
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: the Bills.

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Speaker 12: I think Bills like James Cook and they have Damien Harris,

1112
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 12: who is a perfect power back like they have.

1113
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: The Bears are like number three.

1114
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 4: They have a good little setup. Who the I mean,

1115
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 4: who did the Bears have running it?

1116
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: It's not Montgomery anymore.

1117
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 4: No, he's with Detroit.

1118
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 12: Nick Chubb's running it for us as the first team period.

1119
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 12: This is ones on ones over there. It looks like

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Speaker 12: anyway and uh Nick Chubb with a big run up

1121
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 12: the middle for those kind of keeping tracked.

1122
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: To be fair, they're not trying to tackle.

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Speaker 12: They're not trying to tackle it looks like for the defense,

1124
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 12: look like Kunashik was out there, Jordan Elliott was out

1125
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 12: there next to Dalvin. I think they're still kind of

1126
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 12: giving Shelby Harris, you know, working him back in. It's

1127
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 12: hard to see though. They're very far from us, and

1128
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 12: then people are inconveniently standing between us and the play.

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Speaker 4: You hate to see that. Feel like there could be

1130
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Speaker 4: some more consideration.

1131
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 12: You would think, well, that's what we got next year.

1132
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 12: Up up top looks like a fall start, free play

1133
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 12: for the offense. Watson scrambling out, rolling right, throwing in complete,

1134
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 12: put a flag on Miles Garrett appeared a little bit

1135
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 12: of a quick start, a little bit of a quick start.

1136
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 12: So that'll be Yeah, we're not It's gonna be very difficult.

1137
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 12: Let's just be perfectly upfront for us to give anybody

1138
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 12: any kind of insight instoad to what's going.

1139
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: To be today is not today? Yeah, there's gonna be

1140
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: a little bit today.

1141
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: No no pads anyway, you say.

1142
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 12: Tomorrow the day Kate York is kicking right in front

1143
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 12: of us, Yes he is good?

1144
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 4: Well that I mean, what was that a seventeen yarder?

1145
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 12: Twenty five?

1146
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: Twenty five yarder? It feels like he's eight feet away

1147
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: from it. All I said was good.

1148
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 6: I said, it's fact.

1149
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just like telling people. I mean I need

1150
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: the accuracy here and all recording, so that that one

1151
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: was good as well. So so do I have.

1152
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: To get this done by August twenty ninth for Taylor?

1153
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: Like Stephen Holder tweeted out today, he said, this is

1154
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: perhaps obvious, but regarding Jonathan Taylor, next Tuesday, August twenty

1155
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: ninth the key date, regardless of what happens on the

1156
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: trade front final roster cuts. I mean, players on the

1157
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: active slash pop list must either be activated or move

1158
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: to reserve slash pup and miss four weeks. So I

1159
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: mean Indianapolis, like, if he's not traded, do they have

1160
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: to you know?

1161
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 12: Well they I don't why you wouldn't have him act them?

1162
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 12: Tell me he's got to play.

1163
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I would do, and then just find

1164
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 4: him if he doesn't, Right, I think that's probably what

1165
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 4: you do. I mean, he's got a contracts, he's under contract. Yeah.

1166
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: I think the hard part is just like the when

1167
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 4: you do the like Gibbe, you gave the list of teams,

1168
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: like try to find a suitor.

1169
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 12: Right, that makes right, that makes sense, and that's willing

1170
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 12: to pay the price whatever that may be. Like in Miami,

1171
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 12: I could see them like it. But that system has

1172
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 12: always they get He's well with them, Jeff Wilson plays

1173
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 12: well with them.

1174
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: They've never paid a premium for running backs.

1175
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 12: Certainly not one that is not Like McCaffrey is different

1176
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 12: because of the way that he catches the football right, Yeah,

1177
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 12: so that makes him a little bit different.

1178
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 2: So according to the people in Vegas, Dolphins one, Bears, two,

1179
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: Bills three, Ravens four, Broncos and Cowboys five, Commander six,

1180
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: Bucks and Viking seven and Eagles eight.

1181
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I could see Denver with U Javante coming

1182
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: back and Sean wanting to go right away and giving

1183
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: Russ's help.

1184
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1185
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't have the they don't have the AMMO. They

1186
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 4: gave it all up for Uss. No, but you're not

1187
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: gonna have to get a one. No one's given up

1188
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 4: a one like you could do a two. Last year.

1189
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 12: I think what was the McCaffrey was it was a

1190
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 12: two of three or four. It ended up being a net. Yeah,

1191
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 12: like netted out to being a one.

1192
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: Right, But it was a you know, you could do

1193
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: something like that where it's a balance throughout throughout. You

1194
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty w kN

1195
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: or Cleveland a good Karma brand station. Uh, So that's

1196
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 4: kind of the that that's probably the way that that

1197
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: thing sorts itself out. But yeah, there's a little bit

1198
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 4: of a time crunch in terms of if it will

1199
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: get done or not. It feels like it's gotten very personal, uh,

1200
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: with with the ownership and with the UH and with

1201
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 4: the operation over there between ownership and Jonathan Taylor. So

1202
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: we'll see how all that goes.

1203
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: All right, up the news, Yeah, what do we keep going?

1204
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: All right?

1205
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and jig By having surgery today, I did

1206
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: to repair a broken bone in his wrisk.

1207
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it sounds like he is still optimistic. He'll

1208
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: play the opener. Yes, So obviously a very minor, minor,

1209
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 4: minor surgery there for for him. He's a stud. Yeah,

1210
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: he is a stud. Like the fact that the fact

1211
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 4: that he wasn't viewed it was so strange and I

1212
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: suppose it was just measurables. But like the idea that

1213
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase was not hampered by missing an entire season

1214
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 4: in the draft and he was and he might not

1215
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 4: have the toppest end speed, right, but it's god, I mean,

1216
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 4: neither is Garrett Wilson. That's working out just fine. Yeah,

1217
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 4: it's working out just fine. He is going to be

1218
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 4: a stud for them. If Gino can play. They have

1219
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: a ton of weapons. Oh my god, they are pretty

1220
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: loaded up. If he could go a little bit, yeah.

1221
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: So and then this from ESPN. This is just coming

1222
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: down here. In the last couple hours, one person died

1223
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: another injured when the suburban Charlotte home owned by Tennessee

1224
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: Titans cornerback Caleb Farley exploded overnight. That deceased is his father, dad.

1225
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 4: God, it's a tragedy. I mean, I don't know how this.

1226
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 12: Happened in like Pittsburgh last week, but I mean with

1227
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 12: no one famous, but like an entire block basically blew up.

1228
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: I know it. I don't know why houses are blowing up.

1229
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: That doesn't seem like.

1230
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 12: A normal It is not a normal occurrence. So in

1231
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 12: Pittsburgh it was like a father and a son who

1232
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 12: are neighbors. I think that came over to the house

1233
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 12: and they still don't they ruled out any type of

1234
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 12: foul play or gas or.

1235
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 4: Anything, So I don't know what it is. Yeah, strange,

1236
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: scary times, scary scary times. Kids. We've got some practicing

1237
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 4: going on over there on the far field, a little

1238
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: eleven on eleven fun again, no pads and in a

1239
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 4: bit of way. Kid's backed up. Where's he at now?

1240
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: He's at see forty. It's close to Golosell fifty yarder.

1241
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: Camp show.

1242
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could all right. Second hour of

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Speaker 4: Pathic Medicine. Sweepstakes ends on August as we have our

1253
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: team out here getting in some work. Kate is way

1254
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: back there now, that's gotta be That's got to be

1255
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: fifty seven right right, somewhere in there.

1256
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 12: That's a it's a long one, that's for sure.

1257
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: That deep by the way, not practicing today. Tackle Tyrone Wheatley,

1258
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: junior chest cornerback, Cam Mitchell's shoulder wide receiver Anthony Schwartz

1259
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: hamstring working on the side.

1260
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 12: And cam Mitchell has done He's very much impressed this

1261
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 12: this staff, in this front office. I think he's played

1262
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 12: his way onto this roster, for sure. The young man

1263
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 12: out of Northwestern, Tyrone Wheatley's an interesting one. And and

1264
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 12: perhaps one of the reasons that you know we got

1265
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 12: de Want at left tackle was not only that. And

1266
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 12: I don't know if did Wheatley practice on Sunday as well.

1267
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 12: He must have missed Sundays because I don't remember seeing

1268
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 12: him out there. I saw Kelly out there, and so

1269
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 12: you wonder, you know, for Wheatley, he's a guy that

1270
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 12: had looked pretty darn good. We got dinged up in

1271
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 12: that little skirmish. Yeah, we had a Playbrier, but came back,

1272
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 12: played against Washington and well played against Philly. Well. Uh,

1273
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 12: And he was somebody that you know, you're starting to think, okay,

1274
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 12: maybe he could he could make the team, or he

1275
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 12: could be somebody that, you know, another team with a

1276
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 12: tackle need. Maybe comes Colin and you say, hey, can

1277
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 12: you trade us this for that?

1278
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: There we go that was bombed. That was fifteen yards

1279
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: up the pole. Yeah, that was That was a good

1280
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 4: one from fifty seven.

1281
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 12: There's tantalizing talent there with Kate. I mean, that's that's

1282
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 12: the thing. The talented is he has the ability to

1283
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 12: be not just like a kicker in the league, he

1284
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 12: has the ability to be one of the best kickers

1285
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 12: in the league for a long time. But he's got

1286
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 12: you've got to do it, Like it's.

1287
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: The that that image was the video is going around

1288
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: to the kick he hit in the swamp in the fog. Yep,

1289
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: is that a fifty eight yarder beat to beat Florida

1290
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: like the one he had here in the opener last year.

1291
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: Like there's another one bombed. Yeah, But that's the that's

1292
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 4: the deal. Like, that's that's why, that's why they you

1293
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 4: would just want to get it right. Yeah, because the

1294
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: ceiling is different than the ceiling for most of the

1295
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: other Pumans out here who have this skill set.

1296
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 12: Correct And I think, as we always talk about it

1297
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 12: being a little bit of a mental type of a game,

1298
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 12: you know, much like golf is is, sometimes you gotta

1299
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 12: just let it rip. You know, you can't steer the ball.

1300
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 12: It's hard to steer the ball on the golf course.

1301
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 12: It's hard to steer the ball off the foot for

1302
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 12: a kicker. And so that's one of the things you're

1303
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 12: going to look for him to do, is just let

1304
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 12: it loose, play free, hit the ball.

1305
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: You know, when he hits it like that, it's three

1306
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 4: in a row from it would have been good from

1307
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: sixty seven.

1308
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 12: That one would have been good from sixty seven.

1309
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: Eyah, with a bombitum.

1310
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 12: There's no doubt he's hitting the ball. He's hitting the

1311
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 12: ball well. And like, honestly, I'm more concerned of I

1312
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 12: want to over fifty yards in the NFL. Yes, he

1313
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 12: has the ability of nice ball right there from Deshano

1314
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 12: Murray Cooper on the other field. But he has the

1315
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 12: ability to make those, but those aren't ones that you

1316
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 12: count on. You'd like those, you know, you want to

1317
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 12: be like sixty seven percent from fifteen ship.

1318
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: Legend. I can't believe that this pleases me so much.

1319
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 4: He's he was my guy, you know, my all time guy.

1320
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 12: He had chef trotting out a white wine rabbit.

1321
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 4: So siege today, Look at Nick. I gotta share something

1322
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: with Nick. Yeah, I got it, I got something I

1323
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 4: gotta share with him.

1324
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: What is this.

1325
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: Proclivity for bourbon for for the whiskey? Yeah, bourbon. Yeah,

1326
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 4: he needs I gotta give him a pointer or two.

1327
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: It's kind of been a bit of a game changer.

1328
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so yeah, but so Lavell. Yeah, Levell was

1329
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: a big deal. Yeah, a big big deal here the Siege. Yeah,

1330
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 4: we're always we're trying a lot of different stuff. That

1331
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 4: lovely lunch today.

1332
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: Are we concerned that Jerome Ford is not going to

1333
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: practice this week but he's making positive steps.

1334
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 4: I'm concerned if he's not practicing next week, like to

1335
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 4: me right now.

1336
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 12: And I was noticing Jordan Wilkins was getting the first

1337
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 12: team reps after Nick Chubb, Like, I'm fine with him.

1338
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 12: The guy's rush for a thousand yards in the NFL

1339
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 12: and average five yards to carry. He's clearly in good shape.

1340
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 12: Nice ball of Dave and a Joku there. He can pass, protect,

1341
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 12: he can catch it. Like, I'm fine with that. That's

1342
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 12: I want to see. I want to see him Saturday. Yeah,

1343
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 12: and I want to see what we saw him.

1344
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: We saw him last week, but he'd been in town

1345
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: for he'd been in Philly for like forty eight hours.

1346
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: Right, Like, guys, I don't need to see Nick.

1347
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 12: I'd like to see him open the game at running back.

1348
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 4: I don't need to see Nick Chub do anything. I'm

1349
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: good other than hit that steel foam thing. What do

1350
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: you got?

1351
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 12: No, that's from way downtown. And now Bubba's sitting right

1352
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 12: in front of him.

1353
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: Oh he's just yeah, he really is. This is that

1354
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: we're creating a little bit of a pressure packed moment here.

1355
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 2: Happy that Bubba's doesn't have the Buddha Yeah, me too.

1356
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: Is that what is that? Is that? Sixty seven? Thirty No, no, no, no,

1357
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 4: fifty seven? Oh no, no, that's forty.

1358
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 12: It's right in front of the forty forty five thirty nine,

1359
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 12: So forty nine it's right in front of the forty,

1360
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 12: isn't he Yeah about forty five, yeah, forty nine somewhere

1361
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 12: in the range.

1362
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 4: But these are the ones. These have to be automatic. Oh,

1363
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: the spot is at the I was adding the seventeen.

1364
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: The ball is placed there.

1365
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

1366
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 4: Is Typically when you measure up your measure from the

1367
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, not seven yards back, But so that's

1368
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 4: where that comes. So yeah, working on that. Yeah, I

1369
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: think that that you know, big picture, do you think

1370
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 4: at that running back position? We obviously brought Jenkins in here?

1371
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 4: Is there a is that something where we're paying close

1372
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 4: attention on cutdown day?

1373
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 12: Yes, that's the one position that I think whenever moves

1374
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 12: are made, we're looking at We're checking out phil or

1375
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 12: seeing Is that another? Was that Austin Watkins? What a

1376
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 12: cats off of a ball from D T. R. Moss

1377
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 12: somebody out there, I don't know, range Finder a beast

1378
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 12: even got Jim Schwartz came over and gave him a

1379
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 12: big five in a hug for that one.

1380
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: Austin Wackett just makes plays.

1381
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know if there's room on the

1382
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 12: roster for him, but boy, i'd like to see it.

1383
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: Well there is, you're just gonna have to cut people

1384
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: you drafted.

1385
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 12: Well, I think that's gonna happen anyway, right, but it

1386
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 12: could be multiple. But here's the thing. If Jaquim Grant

1387
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 12: is fully back right and he's a returner, that is

1388
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 12: a difference maker. That's your and and Goodwin is healthy,

1389
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 12: like you're not carrying seven.

1390
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: Well, that's well. Hopefully there's going to be some scented,

1391
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: some sort of certainty on Goodwin soon, right.

1392
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 12: Yes, no, not not not. I'd like to see Gibbe

1393
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 12: with a hair coloring of that nature. He'd look good

1394
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 12: in that, he would look great.

1395
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: Net we make the playoffs. He can do that.

1396
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: We're making the playoffs, Gibbe.

1397
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 12: What is that's a crowd noise simulating simulating the big

1398
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 12: Thanos is doing an interview in the tent earlier today

1399
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 12: the availability.

1400
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: You see how tall that fence is. He just steps

1401
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: right over it. When he's done, we were all like

1402
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: holding our breath bit like should we go help him?

1403
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: No? Good, he's good. Yeah, that's uh. That's really one

1404
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 4: of the cool And now we've flipped it. We're going

1405
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 4: the other way.

1406
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: Good.

1407
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 12: That was good. That's pretty far. That's a lot. That

1408
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 12: was a big one. And he threw his thing after that.

1409
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 12: So that's it for today.

1410
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: That's a wrap.

1411
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: It's such an interesting existence, isn't it. The kickers, the

1412
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 4: punters like Hewlett. I've seen Charlie like, you know, he's

1413
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 4: walking around there. He is kind of walking around living

1414
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: his best life. Would feed that gun back.

1415
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 12: In the old days, I'm not a body language expert,

1416
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 12: but I don't see a lot of joy.

1417
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 4: Uh No, No, I would suggest that is a yeah,

1418
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 4: absence of joy, joyless.

1419
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1420
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 12: Watson down the field gets it right in there. Looked

1421
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 12: like to Amari again because either a Mari or d

1422
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 12: p J. I couldn't tell that flashed over there. He

1423
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 12: spend the ball into some tight windows. Our d is

1424
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 12: our d can move around a little bit.

1425
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 4: Griff go over to uh, go over to the one

1426
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 4: of whoever the coaches on the near sideline and just say,

1427
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 4: we're gonna need you guys to get all on the

1428
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: other side so that Bow and Nathan can see. I'm kidding,

1429
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. Don't don't do that quick. Griff was ready.

1430
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 4: I liked.

1431
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: I liked the readiness. I'm going to go say something.

1432
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was ready. That's a that's a big time

1433
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 4: job out of you willing to just that's that's what

1434
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: they tried to do in the military. Don't think.

1435
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 12: Just do listen right now with we had a couple

1436
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 12: of flubs in the rundown.

1437
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 4: We have no water. No, I don't even seen him.

1438
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 4: I don't even know action right there.

1439
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: Wait, where are the flubs?

1440
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 4: In the rundown today, not today, yesterday.

1441
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: I was gonna say speak we yeah, we had a

1442
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: little we had little meeting.

1443
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: Little.

1444
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 12: I did a stock meeting, I did a stock art.

1445
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 12: It was a big crash. In the afternoon, I.

1446
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 4: Said, I can start strifts on the rise to take

1447
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 4: on the entire coaching staff so that we would have

1448
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: a clear view. What's that job at feels appropriate?

1449
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 12: Is Watson? Back fire is on the right side. Beautiful

1450
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 12: people's jones. First down Browns. It's like a little move

1451
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 12: the ball section. The good part about moving the ball

1452
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 12: is now they're moving to where we can see.

1453
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, now they're thrown a little bit downhill. Are we

1454
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: sure we're going to be able to see? Were sure

1455
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: they're not going to keep walking down the field. These

1456
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: guys are Now they're moving that monitor. That monitor is coming.

1457
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: Here comes that monitor. You get that monitor right out

1458
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: of here. Nothing positive comes from the TV monitor moving.

1459
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 12: Here we go, Watson under center, Chubb single back behind him,

1460
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 12: Chief and motion left to right across the formation to

1461
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 12: a wing on the right.

1462
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 4: Little short morson to get double wing with Jordan hands

1463
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 4: it off.

1464
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 12: Chubby shub down the right side for about five yards says.

1465
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 4: I was right there, nothing to see here. I was

1466
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 4: trying to get that through to my sixth graders last

1467
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: night of that Nick Chubb, like once you burst through,

1468
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 4: then burst for twenty Yeah, keep going like you haven't

1469
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 4: done anything yet. They don't have the same heart sad.

1470
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 4: I hate to get to see it. I hate to

1471
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 4: see it.

1472
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,480
Speaker 12: Look at Griff's up to accommodate our standing.

1473
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have crowd noise going on the far field.

1474
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 4: We have some eleven on eleven work going on.

1475
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 12: It's like a second down here, if you say so.

1476
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 12: Watson in the shotgun newsome little inside hand off there

1477
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 12: to Jordan Wilkes's on the right side. He's got a

1478
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 12: convoy in front of him. That might have been I

1479
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 12: like him, that might have been House.

1480
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: I like him too. Towers the pull there, he's got

1481
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: a little juice to him.

1482
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 12: Cracked down from the right edge of the line. You

1483
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 12: pull the right guard in the center out in front.

1484
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 12: And that's one of our big shotgun runs, is that

1485
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 12: pin across the formation. Jordan Wilkins, you had nice patience

1486
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 12: there to let the blocks develop and then the burst, Yeah,

1487
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 12: really exploded. I'll say it again. The guy averaged five

1488
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 12: yards of carry for his career over two hundred carries

1489
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 12: in the NFL.

1490
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: Like, that's not a joke. That's not a fuke. That's legit.

1491
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 4: Cade working on kickoffs, Now, that was pretty good.

1492
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 12: That was like right to one one, Yeah, all right,

1493
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 12: Watson in the shotgun looks like empty quick game to

1494
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 12: the left, nice past the sideline. Donovan People's Jontes called

1495
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 12: his name a lot today.

1496
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 4: VPJ. Watson looked to be in a very nice rhythm

1497
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: on that one. One big difference from this week to

1498
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 4: the previous practices is now you're getting like that was

1499
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 4: ten minutes of Deshaun Watson quarterback. Yes you're not running, no, guys,

1500
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: he's the quarterback. No, no, no, But I mean, like

1501
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 4: just for the fans out there that come out, whoever's

1502
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 4: lucky enough to come these days.

1503
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: What is it today?

1504
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: Tomorrow? Yeah, that's Itay and Thursday. Right, so you have

1505
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: you have three left. The people over there, I mean

1506
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 4: it's there, I said off the top of the show,

1507
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: this is an odd time for it to be training camp.

1508
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1509
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 4: But the people that are here, and of course mostly

1510
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 4: it's not children because most kids are in school. They're

1511
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 4: getting like a real NFL practice.

1512
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 2: This is the latest I think we've had training camp

1513
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: open to the public because normally you're done after the

1514
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: second game.

1515
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 12: Yeah, So Dobbs is in there now and then dtr

1516
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 12: got like one set of reps. But that's it. There's

1517
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 12: not gonna be a ton of reps going on. Jonathan

1518
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 12: Kelly Man little John Kelly off the left side. Look

1519
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 12: at the voice out and about today.

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01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 4: The voice is great. How are the ponies. I don't

1521
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: know what's going on. It's a little humid. Make sure

1522
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 4: they're having water. Yeah, keep them watered, keep them fresh,

1523
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 4: hat too, yeah.

1524
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: Keep the sun out.

1525
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 4: Keep the smart, no doubt, Yeah, very very smart. All right,

1526
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 4: We will have one Thornhill at the podium keep you

1527
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,800
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1539
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,879
Speaker 4: looking forward to getting back there this weekend.

1540
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 10: I mean, it's gonna be a lot of fun going

1541
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 10: out there, seeing a lot of familiar faces, like seeing

1542
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 10: your coaches and you know, like y'all your forming teammates.

1543
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 10: Is gonna be pretty fun out there, like getting out

1544
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 10: there and talking a little bit of trash, you know,

1545
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,440
Speaker 10: make a couple of plays.

1546
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited for it.

1547
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 4: Speaking to see fifteen player, I do.

1548
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 10: I mean, I think with coach Reid, he he has

1549
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 10: the history of like letting guys play that last game,

1550
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 10: usually like a half or something.

1551
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 6: But I don't think Pat will play that that much.

1552
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 6: He probably played a couple of reps.

1553
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 10: Hopefully we get back there to him a little bit

1554
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 10: and coach you will get a little scarned and take

1555
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 10: him out.

1556
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 6: So I think we will see him out there, but

1557
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 6: I don't know how long though.

1558
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 10: Behind that, I mean the more reps you get, the better,

1559
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 10: you know, So like the first game, you're basically just

1560
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 10: trying to get your feed wet a little bit. And

1561
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 10: then that last game you're out there a little bit

1562
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 10: longer because you're preparing for the regular season. So if

1563
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 10: you play a full half, that's I mean, you might

1564
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 10: get like twenty twenty five reps or something like that.

1565
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,839
Speaker 10: So that's his main reason behind that is getting guys reps.

1566
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 8: Seeing how Kansas City's a team you guys are gonna

1567
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 8: have to go through if you're going to get where

1568
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 8: you aspire to. How vanilla is it gonna be though

1569
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 8: on Saturday, even though you maybe want to go out

1570
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 8: there and have a little fun, talk some trash whatever,

1571
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 8: But just how close to the best do you guys

1572
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 8: have to.

1573
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 6: Kind of keep things?

1574
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, it's whatever a coach calls like, it's

1575
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 10: I think it's all about the mood. Honestly, if he

1576
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 10: come out there and he just want to see, like

1577
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 10: us compete, he might stay real vanilla and not really

1578
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 10: show anything up. You wanna see what we can really like,

1579
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 10: like if we can understand our coverages, he might call

1580
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 10: a little bit more So, I really don't know what he's.

1581
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 6: Gonna do, but hopefully he can call.

1582
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 10: A decent amount of calls, you know, just to keep

1583
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,480
Speaker 10: it real competitive.

1584
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 4: So the last two weeks of camp.

1585
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 7: You will have played Philadelphia in practice against him, but

1586
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 7: also played at Kansas.

1587
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 4: City and two Super Bowl teams.

1588
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 3: But is.

1589
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's huge when you play against like one of

1590
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 10: the top teams like it was, like you said, Philadelphia

1591
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 10: that made it to the Super Bowl and in Kansas

1592
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 10: City that won the Super Woel. You're playing against the

1593
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 10: best two teams technically in the NFL from last season.

1594
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 10: So it's it's a great a great view on how

1595
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 10: we can like work and better ourselves as a team.

1596
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 10: Just being able to see the top competition like that. Uh,

1597
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 10: for two weeks in a row. How many times would

1598
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,919
Speaker 10: you say you intercepted my homes in practice?

1599
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 6: It depends on the year.

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 10: Some years I'm getting him a lot, and then some

1601
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 10: years he get me. So there was one year I

1602
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 10: know I I got him like almost every day. Honestly, Yeah,

1603
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 10: it was it was I think it might've been my

1604
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 10: rookie season.

1605
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 6: I was hot, like if the camp probably I.

1606
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 10: Led the team in interceptions by far in four years

1607
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 10: would you say a dozen times in practice?

1608
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would definitely say so. Yeah, I would definitely

1610
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 6: say so how does he how does he.

1611
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:17,879
Speaker 3: Kind of use practice?

1612
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 9: I mean, if you're intercepting around those times, like how

1613
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 9: does he does he try?

1614
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 6: And stuff that he would never try in a game,

1615
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 6: Like what does he do practice?

1616
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 10: You'll see some crazy stuff from Pat you know, like

1617
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 10: when y'all see like the no look passes on uh

1618
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 10: TV in the game, it's just like.

1619
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 6: Amplify when you're in practice.

1620
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 10: This is it's like he's just trying to really test

1621
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 10: it out to see if he can do it and everything.

1622
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 10: And there's like videos of him throwing it behind the

1623
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 10: back passes. That's like a real thing in practice. So

1624
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 10: if they was to bring that out, I wouldn't be

1625
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 10: surprised at all. Like he always used practice as a

1626
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 10: way to better himself and to see if he can

1627
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 10: do certain things.

1628
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 8: Had the opportunity to go back and look at the

1629
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 8: practice tape against the Eagles, just how would you assess

1630
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 8: how you guys stacked up against them?

1631
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1632
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely. I think I think we held our own.

1633
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 10: You know, we definitely played very well some days and

1634
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 10: some days they got us, you know, but just looking

1635
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 10: at the film, I would say that we got a

1636
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 10: great team that can compete with anybody at this level.

1637
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 11: Okay, one, just seeing what Ronnie Hickman has done. He's

1638
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 11: going out there gotting three interceptions the last two games. Like,

1639
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 11: as an undrafted guy, just what have you thought of him?

1640
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 11: And what is he brought to the room?

1641
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 10: I mean, the guy's a competitive I mean, he's very smart,

1642
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 10: and it seems like he takes his game, like this

1643
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 10: game very seriously, Like he's always like in the playbook,

1644
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 10: asking questions and meetings, and then when you put him

1645
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 10: on the field, it shows because like he'd had three interceptions,

1646
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 10: two in one game and then one last week. So

1647
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 10: when you got a guy that's always around the football,

1648
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 10: it just shows how good of a player he really is.

1649
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 11: Does it that kind of player, like, especially a guy

1650
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 11: who's undrafted, and I know Rodney's history with that too,

1651
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 11: Does that like up the energy in the room for

1652
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 11: everybody when you have a guy coming in there and

1653
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 11: making the most of every opportunity like that.

1654
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 10: I mean, it's great to see undrafted guys do that.

1655
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 10: But once you get in the room, we don't really

1656
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 10: think about if you're a drafted guy or undrafted. I

1657
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 10: mean it was just if a team one you at

1658
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 10: a certain place, they'll get you. But you have a

1659
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 10: great guys that go undrafted each and every year, so

1660
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 10: we really don't look at too that undrafted and drafted situation.

1661
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 4: Are you a believer though.

1662
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 6: That somebody has a.

1663
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 10: Knack for that take away every Oh yeah, some people

1664
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 10: were like, I mean, some people just have a knack

1665
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 10: for the ball. The ball just finds them. And I

1666
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 10: think Ronnie is one of those guys. You know, like

1667
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 10: even if he's not looking to make to play the ball,

1668
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 10: somehow falls in is all.

1669
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 6: So I think he's one of those guys for sure.

1670
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,520
Speaker 4: Aside from his talent, what makes one of my homes.

1671
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: What he is.

1672
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 6: I mean, he's a competitor.

1673
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 10: Like if y'all haven't watched it that Quarterback Uh show

1674
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 10: on Netflix, I didn't even know that he was like

1675
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 10: that competitive, Like I thought Pat was just going out

1676
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 10: there just playing football, not really talking.

1677
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 6: But I mean it really showed in that show.

1678
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 10: That's what I think makes him different from a lot

1679
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 10: of other quarterbacks cause they see it as like a job,

1680
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 10: and he goes out there and just wanted to have

1681
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 10: fun with the game.

1682
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 3: Cause you're still most closest too on that chief seat.

1683
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 6: That's that's hard. That's hard to just pick one person

1684
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 6: cause I was close with a lot.

1685
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 10: Of those guys out there, so I tr try to

1686
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 10: stay in contact with him as much as possible.

1687
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 6: So I really can't pick one individual player one.

1688
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 9: When less season ended, did you know we're probably moving

1689
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 9: on from there? Or did you have to see a

1690
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 9: play out?

1691
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 10: I mean, I kinda I kind of had a sense

1692
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 10: that it was it was a chance that I would

1693
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 10: be moving on, cause we had they drafted a guy,

1694
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 10: Brian Cook in the second round, and as the year

1695
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 10: went on, I just saw him getting better and better

1696
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 10: each and every week, and I just saw him keep

1697
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 10: on just like like steadily just making plays. So I

1698
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 10: knew that, like, Okay, this guy's not this guy's not

1699
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 10: gonna stay here and play behind me for another three

1700
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 10: years if I signed back, Cause this guy's ready to

1701
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 10: play right now.

1702
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 6: So I kind of figured it was probably my time

1703
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 6: to move on.

1704
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 4: Well, thy they from the U three Super Bowls in

1705
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 4: the last four years.

1706
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 6: How long is it?

1707
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 10: Kind of last year though, I I never wish anything

1708
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 10: bad on him, but hopefully this was the last year,

1709
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 10: cause I'm I'm hoping that we can get that each

1710
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 10: and every year.

1711
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 6: Now it's practicing this free season.

1712
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 12: But when you've seen the the defense kind of come

1713
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 12: out there and have those explosive plays, how does that

1714
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 12: feel to see maybe what Jim Schortz is trying to

1715
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 12: do on a small scale already.

1716
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's crazy.

1717
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 10: Like I was telling some of the cornerbacks that didn't

1718
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 10: even play, like yep, y'all really don't understand like how

1719
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 10: fast that d line is getting back there. I don't

1720
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 10: really feel like I'm covering a lot. I feel like

1721
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 10: I'm like I'm taking two pedal steps and the balls

1722
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 10: coming out. So I mean, it's it's an amazing feeling

1723
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 10: when guys are getting out there making a lot of plays,

1724
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 10: and it just shows how good this team really could be.

1725
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 6: What do you wake out there playing defense against Watson?

1726
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 6: I mean it's great.

1727
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 10: Like I said, I see a lot of things in

1728
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 10: him that I saw in Pat, Like they both they

1729
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 10: compete at a high level, Like we talk trash eating

1730
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 10: every day. I'm'a tell him I'm gona pick him off

1731
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 10: a couple of times, and his goal is obviously to

1732
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 10: not throw interceptions to me. But Deshaun he asks all

1733
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 10: the the the traits of a great quarterback, and I'm

1734
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 10: excited to see him play this year.

1735
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 7: You expect as long as breathing the homes or together,

1736
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 7: that they'll at least be there every year meeting.

1737
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 10: For Super Yeah, definitely. I mean just the culture over

1738
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 10: there is is amazing. Honestly, I don't think they'll ever

1739
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 10: fall off.

1740
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 6: Like those guys.

1741
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 10: They take everything serious, like very seriously over there, and

1742
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 10: I think that they will be pee each and every

1743
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 10: year for sure.

1744
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 4: One you talk a lot of trash on the sidelines

1745
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 4: or Warren practice, How do you think that's healthy identity

1746
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 4: of his defense? And is that something you brought over

1747
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 4: from Kansas City.

1748
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 6: I really didn't talk too much in Kansas City.

1749
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 10: I mean I'll talk sometimes, but like here, like I

1750
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 10: just want to have a lot of fun. You know,

1751
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 10: when you're out there talking trash each and every day,

1752
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 10: it just brings energy. If the offense is down and

1753
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 10: I'm talking trash to you have no reason but to

1754
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 10: respond back and to compete each and every day. So

1755
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 10: that's what I'm here for, is to bring that energy

1756
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 10: each and every every single day in practice.

1757
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 9: Given the end of the last two seasons, can you

1758
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 9: bring a lot to this defense about the Bengals, give

1759
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 9: them how much you played them and how big those

1760
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 9: games were.

1761
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely could bring a lot to it.

1762
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 10: I mean, because I played them at the top level

1763
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 10: when they wanted to be at their best. But I'm

1764
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 10: not gonna really give out too much right now, but

1765
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 10: I definitely feel like I can help with that for sure.

1766
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 9: It's a real thing.

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you think it's a real thing, all right.

1768
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 4: That is one thorn Hill at the podium from earlier

1769
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 4: today practice on going out here in Borea. We haven't

1770
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 4: talked about him much. You can't make it that number

1771
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 4: one now.

1772
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 12: And he flies around, he can play in the post,

1773
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 12: he can come up near the line of scrimmage if

1774
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 12: you need him too as well. But want Thornhill is,

1775
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 12: you know, and he knows what it takes to win

1776
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 12: at the highest of levels. And so that's what you

1777
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 12: love to see. And so we're getting right now for

1778
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 12: the people just to kind of paint a picture. Offense

1779
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 12: and defense are on different fields going against scout teams,

1780
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 12: and so this is much more of you know, getting

1781
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 12: ready for maybe on one level, a little Kansas city,

1782
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 12: but Mom'm guessing it's it's even more so Cincinnati. Is

1783
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 12: what you're looking at right here.

1784
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty amazing for those that are out here.

1785
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 4: What you're seeing is it's not normally what you get

1786
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 4: to see.

1787
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 12: No, you don't get a lot of scout team in

1788
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 12: front of no in front of crowds. And so the

1789
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 12: Browns are aware of that that other teams could send

1790
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 12: representatives in and they will be very judicious with what

1791
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 12: is shown in these scout team type of situations. So

1792
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 12: the answer being not much, but you know, just some

1793
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 12: basic concepts and things like that. But that'll be all

1794
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 12: you're gonna get. You're not gonna get any what you

1795
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 12: would call the meat or what would be in your

1796
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 12: first you know, fifteen plays, that kind of stuff that

1797
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 12: you're really looking to set a tone with.

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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you. The other thing is there aren't

1799
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:09,879
Speaker 4: too many secrets.

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01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 4: You put in a couple of plays here or there,

1802
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 4: but everybody kind of knows what everybody does well, and.

1803
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 12: Really what you're doing is you know these it would

1804
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 12: surprise me at all of these you know what is

1805
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 12: being shown right now in the scout team is what

1806
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 12: I would call of a particular play family. This is

1807
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 12: like A because what you're doing is you're running A

1808
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 12: establishing A, and then you run B, which looks like

1809
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 12: A but has this particular renel. Or you run A

1810
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 12: out of a different formation group that allows you to

1811
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 12: set up be better, or you know, then you get

1812
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 12: to see you well, it looks like this. For example,

1813
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 12: I'll give out of the shotgun. Now that we're running

1814
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 12: inside zone. You can run shotgun inside zone, boom handoff.

1815
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 12: There it goes. You can run shotgun inside zone. That's

1816
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 12: a read option. So that's variation number two. You can

1817
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 12: run shotgun play action off of the inside zone and

1818
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 12: throw it.

1819
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 4: So that's three.

1820
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 12: You can run shotgun with a jet motion and front

1821
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 12: of you for a pop pass yep, that would be

1822
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 12: off of the inside zone action. You can then run

1823
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 12: the fake pop pass hand off inside zone.

1824
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 4: You can then run the.

1825
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 12: Fake pop pass fake play action and throw it. So

1826
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 12: that's a play tree of nine different things that you

1827
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 12: can attach all kinds of different concepts to that all

1828
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 12: would look the same.

1829
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 4: At all look to the beginning.

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01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 12: So that's what you're you're not going to get into

1831
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 12: the what the BC D E V you know, variations,

1832
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 12: but you're gonna you'll be going through your basic stuff

1833
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 12: right now. Then when this gets all closed down, which

1834
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 12: will happen at the end of this week, then the

1835
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 12: real work will begin on you know, everything that you're

1836
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,879
Speaker 12: gonna be doing for the Cincinnati Bagels.

1837
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1838
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 4: And I think the other thing is, you know, we've

1839
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: talked about this before. We have you guys heard from

1840
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 4: Kansas City with how they're treating this weekend. Have you

1841
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 4: seen any reporting on plaid so far?

1842
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: So my guess their starters have played it every preseason.

1843
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: That yeah, you would continue to do so Yeah, I

1844
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 4: mean I just didn't know, like because every I'm telling you,

1845
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 4: every team is handling this differently who's playing and who's not,

1846
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 4: So it's hard to say, like how what the approach

1847
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 4: could be. And honestly, like I just want to see

1848
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 4: Deshan throw it twenty five times, just what I'm kind

1849
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 4: of hoping for, like nothing else. I know that's not

1850
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 4: probably what's going to go, but i'd like to. That's

1851
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 4: about all. You need.

1852
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 12: Some more field goal this time the full operation before

1853
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 12: it was just off of a team, and you've got

1854
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 12: a pretty impressive audience list right there watching it.

1855
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say that you probably do.

1856
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: I think there are three cameras gathered behind three cameras

1857
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: and some important people, some luminaries, dignitaries.

1858
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 4: That's right down the Broadway. Yeah, yeah, I guess the

1859
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 4: idea is though, like this is how you manufacture some pressure. Right.

1860
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't.

1861
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 12: He did not his reaction to this not happened it right,

1862
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 12: And it's hard from our vantage point because we're not

1863
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 12: right on it.

1864
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: We're just off it.

1865
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 12: Can you tell the two kids that are standing there

1866
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 12: under it, who are just shagging the balls?

1867
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: Just give us. I don't know that we won him.

1868
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 12: Just stand behind, well he could, he could go stand out,

1869
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 12: go stand behind and stand and they give us yesterday

1870
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 12: the signal?

1871
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 4: Is that going to get him in trouble? I don't think.

1872
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,480
Speaker 4: So we'll say, gibby, you know, we'll be discreet, discreet.

1873
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 4: So maybe this ear, maybe this ear, no, just grab

1874
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 4: your ear.

1875
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 12: Good and then if you look at us not good?

1876
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 4: All right, very good?

1877
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 12: There it is all right, he's off, he's off.

1878
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1879
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 4: I like that.

1880
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: We went with the discrete.

1881
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 4: He's running now, you know, is running? Be very discreete don't.

1882
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 4: I'd stop running now, I wouldn't run anymore.

1883
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 12: His raging style is the opposite of Roger Craigs. I

1884
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 12: would have forget that reference. Yeah, Roger with very high knees.

1885
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 12: He's maybe didn't.

1886
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 4: Get Dom looking at it. Oh God, Dom's going, what

1887
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 4: in the hell or you doing?

1888
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: He's fine?

1889
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 12: Oh there he is, looks fine.

1890
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 4: All right, there we go.

1891
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 6: All right, let's go.

1892
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 4: Dom does have other he has other things on his plate.

1893
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 12: Yep, this one's going to be right here from about

1894
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 12: forty two on the right.

1895
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 4: Hash. All right, you're lining up, uh, Charlie on the snap,

1896
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 4: Corey on the hold, and we are. I just want

1897
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: to say, you know what, I know what that signmon,

1898
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 4: and you know what it meant. I'm gonna let me

1899
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 4: just say something. The stock through the roof, right there,

1900
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 4: the stock is through the roof. But I also think

1901
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 4: it's possible that we need to pull him back. Yeah,

1902
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,520
Speaker 4: just come over here, just come over here a little closer,

1903
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I

1904
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 4: don't want him.

1905
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 12: To be removed of duties. There's everybody's plenty people are staying.

1906
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 12: Look the people behind people watching this are much more important.

1907
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 12: Than us ball up there. Oh now he just forgets

1908
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 12: he just wasn't doing I think this is what I

1909
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 12: would say though, like yeah, I would like I would

1910
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 12: like Uno to come a little bit closer to us.

1911
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 12: Bring them on back, come on, come on back.

1912
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 4: You're good, very good work. That's fine, that's good, you're good. Yep,

1913
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 4: that's good. Solid, yep, yep, good job, yep, great job killed,

1914
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 4: effort killed. That was the right timing on us. We

1915
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 4: got in, we did what we needed to do, and

1916
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: then and then you're out. That's the way you got

1917
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 4: to do that.

1918
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 12: So this is obviously a public practice. There will be

1919
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 12: reports on this, and I would say that there is

1920
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 12: right now, we have a we're we're going through we're

1921
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 12: going through something and there's we're I feel like we're

1922
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 12: coming to a point where we've got there might be

1923
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 12: there needs to be something. There needs to be something,

1924
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 12: either a complete change in the trajectory of of what

1925
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 12: we're seeing or or somebody else, because that was that

1926
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 12: was a struggle unfortunately. And Kate is so talented, but

1927
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 12: you can it's like a golfer. Justin Thomas is one

1928
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 12: of the best golfers in the world. Rory the mental

1929
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 12: on the like you just you hope that you can

1930
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 12: get through it, you can work through it. But it

1931
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 12: feels right now like we're in a we're in a

1932
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 12: little bit of a tough period.

1933
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 4: I would agree, I would agree, all right, so much

1934
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 4: more to come, Actually, there is so much more.

1935
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Speaker 2: We we have two more segments.

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Speaker 4: Really we got we got oh yeah, yeah yeah, oh

1937
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 4: yeah yeah. We're just safe.

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Speaker 6: Just safe.

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Speaker 4: Browns Radio Network. Coach of course, will join, after all,

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Speaker 4: it is his show. Denzel Ward as well, Yeah, with

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01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 4: an exclusive with Gibbe give one on one with d Ward. Yeah,

1947
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Speaker 4: I like it the Ward.

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Speaker 2: At some point during this season, I will have more

1949
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: than a two minute heads up that I'm doing these.

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01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 12: It's just sit down and go well they I had

1951
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 12: three scheduled interviews.

1952
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the same time he comes down and he's like

1953
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: I got this, this and this and I'm like, well,

1954
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: I can tell you that's probably not gonna fly.

1955
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: It feels like we're having some scheduling snaffoos.

1956
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 12: Boy, so I would say, well and and we even God,

1957
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 12: look at the nation, look at the shades or.

1958
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 4: Stop it, sun shades. I need some sunglasses.

1959
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 12: He looks like he just got back from Hawaii from

1960
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 12: like his that's where he went on his honeymoon.

1961
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he deserves that, got that sun. You guys

1962
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 4: are not sunglass guys all the time.

1963
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 2: I am if if I actually had them, I've lost

1964
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 2: two pairs so far on these trips.

1965
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 4: I don't. I either go a hat.

1966
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, and when I wear a hat, I don't typically

1967
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,440
Speaker 12: love to wear sunglasses, okay, or I wear the sunglasses

1968
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 12: would I would say I'm in sunglasses of the time.

1969
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 12: About like driving here, I was wearing them. I used to.

1970
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 12: I found and I don't know if this is just

1971
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 12: me making it up, but I found and probably the

1972
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 12: main reason that I stopped wearing as much as I

1973
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 12: used to. And obviously I'm not golfing now, but I

1974
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 12: found that I saw the lines.

1975
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 4: Better than red greens better without my shades on. I

1976
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 4: believe that I suck at golf, so it wouldn't really.

1977
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 12: Like a lot of pros. You didn't see any who

1978
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 12: wears shades. I don't like wearing sunglasses when I go.

1979
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 12: There are many, not many. Yeah, I think practice has

1980
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 12: done to Ricky's let's be to be fair. It's a

1981
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 12: wonderful resurgence for him, but yeah, he was searching for

1982
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 12: along David.

1983
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 4: Deval, the most famous back to where the he wore the.

1984
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 12: He also didn't look at the ball when he hit it.

1985
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: Is that the real truth? Yeah? Was that?

1986
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 12: Is that?

1987
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 4: I don't know?

1988
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 12: Is that him and Anica soornsam moretors that where they

1989
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 12: would turn their heads with their swings, so when they

1990
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 12: actually hit the ball, their faces were They weren't looking

1991
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 12: at the wall.

1992
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 4: The way that funny is what they tell you though,

1993
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 4: is like do not lift your head. Let's like when

1994
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 4: you first teach kids how to play golf, keep your

1995
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 4: head down.

1996
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 12: And Onica Sorenson did it when I mean at the

1997
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 12: peak of her absolute powers.

1998
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 4: She was dominant, not as good as it gets. I'd

1999
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 4: never seen until this weekend, the the Scheffler shuffle. You

2000
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 4: never noticed his feet, No, every shot. I don't watch

2001
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,799
Speaker 4: enough golf. I mean I watched the majors of my watch.

2002
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 12: Sometimes but not every shot. Yeah, like he does it

2003
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 12: every shot. It's wild crazy.

2004
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 4: So yes, it does look like we are wrapping up here, Yeah,

2005
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 4: this practice and shutting it down for the day.

2006
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 12: Speaking of golf, I got out there yesterday with the

2007
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 12: great ap.

2008
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 4: The great ap. Yeah, I see he's gone nicely today.

2009
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Look at Ask him what he shot yesterday? A Boulder creek.

2010
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 4: Let me guess. I'm going to say, seventy three.

2011
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Did I already tell you this?

2012
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 4: No? No, no, we did not talk about it. No,

2013
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 4: we didn't talk about it all that.

2014
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 12: Was the right number. Had a couple of BIRDI puts

2015
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 12: that could have dropped. It's just a tough course. There's

2016
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 12: not a lot of quote unquote traditional what you would

2017
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 12: call birdie holes on that course.

2018
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 4: It is a tough that's over.

2019
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 12: Right. Yeah, that that layout I would pretty sweet. I

2020
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 12: would love to see that course. You know, sometimes you

2021
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 12: see clubs like get a second course. Yeah, I would

2022
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 12: love to see that become the second course of a

2023
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 12: club where it is maintained to those standards, because it's

2024
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 12: the best layout in the city. I mean, you're talking

2025
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 12: about number nine is four sixty second shot all over

2026
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 12: water to the green, like you've got six hundred yard

2027
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 12: par fives. You have an island green off of a cliff.

2028
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 12: From about one forty on seventeen you have a peninsula green,

2029
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 12: much like at East Lake. It's a one sixty is

2030
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 12: shot over water, but if you go too long, you're

2031
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 12: also in the water because it just the green kind

2032
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,879
Speaker 12: of juts out. Yeah, it's awesome. It's so many cool shots.

2033
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 12: They have a par five with split fairways, or if

2034
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 12: you go left, it's really narrow. But if you get

2035
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 12: it up there in the fairway, it's like an easy

2036
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 12: shot to hit it in two. If you go right,

2037
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 12: it's much longer. They have some yeah, some risk reward.

2038
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 12: It's awesome. It's very cool practice. Wrapping up as wrapped

2039
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 12: up here in Bria. Two left the nation getting loose. Yeah,

2040
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 12: it's getting really get loose for that. Oh, I don't

2041
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 12: want to hear that, wants I don't want to be

2042
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 12: robbed of any joy?

2043
01:31:59,080 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 4: Have you herding at all?

2044
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 12: Oh, by the way, for the people, Harrison Bryant out

2045
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 12: here taking practice and oh, which we have not I

2046
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 12: don't know we've seen.

2047
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 4: We have not seen him for a very long night Yeah,

2048
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 4: that is That is very good to see. The next

2049
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 4: level will take you through the rest of the afternoon.

2050
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