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Speaker 1: Welcome to talking coffee, our chance to unwind.

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Speaker 2: Or amp up whatever, whatever. However you use.

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Speaker 1: The substance, the legal substance of coffee and caffeine. If

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Speaker 1: you use it to calm down, if you use it

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Speaker 1: to jolt and charge your.

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Speaker 2: Day, that's what we're here to do. So welcome to

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Speaker 2: talk and coffee.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as usual by my uh wonderful producers, Lauren

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Speaker 1: and Derek.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys? Good? Hello, Hello, cheers.

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Speaker 3: I have a full cup of ice me too, coffee

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Speaker 3: with me today?

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Speaker 2: Cheers Derek? Where's your coffee?

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Speaker 4: Well I just finished it, but it was hot and okay.

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Speaker 2: You do, Derek? Have we not? That's amazing? My Aladdin obsession?

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Speaker 5: Wait, I had an obsession.

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Speaker 2: No stop stop.

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Speaker 3: I also had a yeah. Well I think it was

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Speaker 3: very much are well, Derek, you are many years.

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Speaker 1: In your Lauren, I got into it like at a

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Speaker 1: very inappropriately old age.

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Speaker 2: Like totally. I was a teenager when it came out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I requested the VHS tape got for Christmas and then

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Speaker 3: watched it a thousand times and the CD same sound

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Speaker 3: trame made it into my mixtapes.

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Speaker 2: I have the VHS tape in Italian I can't play

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Speaker 2: it here. I bought it in Italy.

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Speaker 1: Can't play it here. Oh I've never seen it, but

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Speaker 1: I bought it. I mean I have a large Aladdin collection. Wow,

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Speaker 1: specifically Oh yeah, only Aladdin.

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Speaker 5: Aladdin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but like you know, I went

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Speaker 1: to an all girls Catholic high school, and for some reason,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of cool to almost infantalize our.

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Speaker 2: Pop culture consumption.

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Speaker 1: Like we'd watch cartoons and then talk about them at school,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you had your like Beauty and the

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Speaker 1: Beast Girls and your little mermaid girls, and I was Aladdin.

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Speaker 2: And for some reason.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't weird that like all these sixteen year olds

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Speaker 1: were like really into Like in my English class, we

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Speaker 1: had to do a performed monologue.

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Speaker 2: I did it from Aladdin. Oh my god, what part?

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Speaker 2: What part?

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Speaker 1: So when he's up at the balcony trying to woo

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Speaker 1: her and the genius to be yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah aggressive, be yourself, the.

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Speaker 1: Balcony scene, yourself, that balcony scene. Because you had to

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Speaker 1: pick three characters to change voices and do all three voices.

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Speaker 2: Wow, intense?

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Speaker 5: Is there take of this? I know I need to

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Speaker 5: see this.

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Speaker 1: I am well I need to show you on some

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Speaker 1: future episode my my now whittled down but still impressive

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Speaker 1: Aladdin Collection of Rebelia.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I need to see that. I need to

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Speaker 4: see a tape of that of that performance too.

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Speaker 2: Oh I wish I had.

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Speaker 4: I mean I Aladdin is a good movie, and I

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Speaker 4: think a big part of what makes it great is

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Speaker 4: Robin Williams.

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Speaker 2: And I miss him so much.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he really added so much to that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's really incredible. And you're one hundred percent right, that

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Speaker 1: is why. And he was really one of the first

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Speaker 1: celebrity voices yea for these Disney movies, because.

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Speaker 2: Like Beauty in the Beast before I had.

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Speaker 1: You know, Murder, she wrote, uh, Angela Lansbury. But like

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Speaker 1: Bell was not a famous voice, the Beast was not

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Speaker 2: This wasn't like a thing that was really done.

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Speaker 3: And wasn't Aladdin. Steve from Full House.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the speaking the speaking talking voice of.

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Speaker 1: Voice, yes, yes, the speaking voice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the singing voice with someone.

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Speaker 1: And then Leo Salonga was the singing voice of Jazzmine. Yeah, incredible,

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Speaker 1: That's how I find out who she was. But it

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Speaker 2: And then also I remember there.

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Speaker 1: Were like some graphic innovations that were used in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, at that time, the power that Disney had

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Speaker 3: over our collective pop culture, Like you know, that's at

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Speaker 3: like I was, you know, but like I also had

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Speaker 2: Well I'm glad to hear that. Like, I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: I always I was a little ashamed of this, I

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Speaker 1: At ten, I was like driving, okay, driving, just driving

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Speaker 1: myself to the movie theater.

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Speaker 4: So my life can be broken up into these like obsessions.

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Speaker 4: And the first one was Wizard of Oz when I

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Speaker 4: was very young, I just watched and over. And then

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Speaker 4: the next one was Aladdin, and I was still pretty young.

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Speaker 4: When I was like eight years old, I made an

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Speaker 4: Aladdin film club for my neighborhood, and I like, I

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Speaker 4: created like a printed newsletter and everything and like, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, amazing.

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Speaker 4: But then after that at the correct age, Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: but it continues because then at an older age, my

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Speaker 4: next obsession was Pixar Animation Studios, and I was obsessed

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Speaker 4: Toy Story two. That is like a movie that like

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Speaker 4: you know, it's all kind of yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: an age and he's into Pixar movies and stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: inside out too right. But he grew up watching Toy

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Speaker 1: even as a baby. So it's really fun to get

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Speaker 1: into all that stuff again. And then there are these

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Speaker 1: TikTok accounts that like rate all the best Disney or

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Speaker 1: and so we watch those together.

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Speaker 2: It's really fun, cute fun.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love all that stuff. I love

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Speaker 3: like my ten year old is kind of like and

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Speaker 3: I was like, we haven't even grays the surface of

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Speaker 3: like the Disney vault, as they used to say.

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Speaker 2: You come in and out of the.

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Speaker 3: this old movie.

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Speaker 1: I do remember. Do you guys remember this was a thing.

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Speaker 1: Remember when they had Disney stores? Yes, yeah, okay, what

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Speaker 1: I always wanted in most Yeah, you'd go in and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this.

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Speaker 2: They had it at Disney as well, you could buy cells.

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Speaker 1: M oh, great picture cell, Yeah, from your favorite movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they're numbered almost like an art piece, and they'd bring.

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Speaker 2: These out of the vault.

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Speaker 1: And I kept waiting for a Laddin to come out

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Speaker 2: They were maybe like over one hundred dollars. They were framed.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were really cool and I would keep

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Speaker 2: But I never got one. Tragedy. It was a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have to look for some Uh, Okay, Well

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Speaker 1: I loved this trip down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we can talk about Aladdin Agroba Lane. I loved it,

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Speaker 5: solid love it.

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Speaker 1: And we'll have to get into it again because I

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Speaker 1: want to show you some of my things.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yes, absolutely, they're deep in the basement.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, they should be on your back shelf

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Speaker 3: over there.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking.

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Speaker 1: I was looking to see if I had anything Aladdin

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Speaker 5: Do we need an Aladdin pod? A spinoff podcast?

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Speaker 2: Breakout?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Derek, Derek do it.

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Speaker 5: Do it? I do it. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I need to bring something up here. I must represent somehow,

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Speaker 1: but this is I'm telling you. I'm like ashamed of it,

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Speaker 1: but maybe no more. Okay, let's get into some talking coffee.

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Speaker 5: Hot coffee got.

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Speaker 1: Derailed by by Derek's awesome mug. Related it was really,

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Speaker 1: it was related, dish. Okay, I want to start. Just

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Speaker 1: we're coming up on the holidays, and I'm just curious,

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Speaker 3: No, I mean a lot of coffee at my parents' house.

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Speaker 3: My parents also take coffee very seriously, and they have

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Speaker 3: a very fancy coffee maker that is like you're in

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Speaker 3: my dad had become obsessed with. It's very finicky and

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Speaker 3: takes like I need like training every time I go

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah, but it is really special and like Ronnie

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Speaker 3: and I will really over caffey while we're there, So

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Speaker 3: am enjoying me ice coffee situation. I'm excited to have,

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Speaker 3: like the really thoughtfully grand situation.

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Speaker 5: Love that. Yeah, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I have only been drinking coffee for a few years,

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Speaker 4: and so in terms of how many holidays I have

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Speaker 4: had with coffee, it's not that many. So I haven't

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is the year that I start doing some coffee. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all any things, although I will say I was walking

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Speaker 4: said eggnog coffee, and I was not going to buy anything,

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Speaker 4: very curious, and so I went in and I said

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Speaker 4: that I just want to ask, is is this is

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Speaker 4: this good? Is the eggnog coffee latte good? And the

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Speaker 4: worker was like, well, it's not. It's not currently very popular,

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Speaker 4: and what from I haven't had it, but from what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna pop in and ask, just

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Speaker 3: It sounds, it sounds.

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Speaker 2: It feels like something I don't want to know what's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to look directly at that process.

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Speaker 2: It's my favorite alcohol brand.

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Speaker 5: Oh see, I didn't even know Derek.

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Speaker 5: But it's not alcoholic.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah of course, yeah right, but maybe soco. So

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Speaker 3: So wait, Essie, do you have holiday coffee traditions?

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Speaker 1: I I avoid like the peppermint oka.

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Speaker 1: I did one year try the Dunk sugar plum machiato.

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Speaker 3: It was football.

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Speaker 1: It was purple. It's really pretty m but tasted nothing

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Speaker 3: I tried. I went to this fantastic restaurant in DC

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Speaker 3: they had a version of espresso martini that was based

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Speaker 3: It was disgusting, but I think it's also like I

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Speaker 3: And like and much more interesting than I could even convey.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like a fancy restaurants, so they're doing

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Speaker 1: Right moving on, I this is so funny because I

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Speaker 1: was reading something unrelated and this came up. Famous celebrities

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 5: You see this every now and then? Yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 1: You'd be surprised how many, Like I think, it's not

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Speaker 1: surprising when you hear like another celebrity has a liquor brand,

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Speaker 1: how many celebrities have their own coffee. Yeah, you might

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Speaker 3: I could just like rattle celebrities on the top of

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Speaker 2: Coffee, Lauren, we have discussed a.

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Speaker 1: Pop culture product several times on this show. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 1: that's memorable for coffee scenes?

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Speaker 2: Oh friends coffee related? Nope, nope, you.

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Speaker 3: Specifically Oh oh uh twin peaks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so McLaughlin Nile.

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Speaker 5: Nope. Did David Lynch have it? Yeah he did?

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Speaker 2: Oh really David Lynch us. And it's called the David

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Speaker 2: Lynch Signature Organic Coffee. Wow, that's genius.

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Speaker 5: And now it's in his honor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would get that.

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman has Caught Laughing Man coffee. Emma Chamberlain has

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain Coffee. The band Green Day has Oakland Coffee Works.

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Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg has coffee called Indo x y Z Coffee.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm saying that right.

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Speaker 1: Sophia Virgara has coffee it's called Doo.

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Speaker 5: We talked about an athlete that had who we did?

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Speaker 2: We did? I remember he was a basketball player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Hanks has a coffee called Hanks for our

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Speaker 1: Troops where.

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Speaker 2: The proceeds go to troops.

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Speaker 1: M Millie Bobby Brown has Florence by Mills. Might the

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Speaker 1: stranger thing, Yeah, she might have too many the stranger

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Speaker 1: the stranger thing. She's a stranger thing. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: weirdest one. And this is how I got here. Rudy Coffee,

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Speaker 1: Like the movie is Sean Assen it is not Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I thought too. Yeah, it's so much worse.

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Speaker 5: No, it's Juliani.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he launched Rudy Coffee in May twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 5: But listen to this.

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Speaker 1: So he gets this one hundred and forty eight million

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Speaker 2: Can't work as a lawyer, Right disbarred. So he opens

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Speaker 2: this Rudy Coffee.

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Speaker 1: But the brand, the roaster he uses is the Miami

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Speaker 1: based Burke Brands, known for Don Pablo coffee, which also

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Speaker 3: For Sea, it's just a theme. Makes coffee taste better

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Speaker 3: when you're desperate.

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Speaker 1: Purchasing the coffee supports truth, just us an American democracy.

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Speaker 1: What reception to the coffee has not been good? Coffee

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Speaker 1: Review gave the Fighting for Justice Bold Coffee, Oh God,

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Speaker 5: Cop Oh so it's autobiographical.

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Speaker 1: There's some bias in there, But yeah.

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Speaker 5: I hear.

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Speaker 4: Rudy's Coffee is the number one coffee of the four Seasons.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, exclusively the coffee of four Seasons. Yeah, listen, good

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Speaker 1: good luck, good luck, good luck, good luck to them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have a great one.

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Speaker 5: This is so great.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to get really personal and intimate here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Psychology says people who make their coffee in a French

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Speaker 1: press have eight distinct traits.

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Speaker 2: Derek, this is for you.

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Speaker 4: I know you don't always do French press. Well, I

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Speaker 4: never do French press. I don't have you.

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Speaker 5: You don't have Lauren.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever do French press?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're currently doing French press.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when I get ready.

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Speaker 3: When I have the time, Yeah, get ready to be analyzed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, exciting.

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Speaker 1: Well, the rest of the world rushes for instant coffee fixes.

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Speaker 1: There's a fascinating subset of people that's you, Lauren, who

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Speaker 1: deliberately choose the four minute French press ritual, and psychology

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Speaker 1: reveals they share eight surprising personality.

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Speaker 2: Traits that set them apart right hit me Science.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 1: They value process over speed. This writer says it's akin

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Speaker 1: it meditative and creative. There's something deeply satisfying about taking

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Speaker 1: These individuals tend to enjoy the journey as much as

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Speaker 2: Are we describing you, Lauren?

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Speaker 3: I mean, French press is not like it truthfully is

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Speaker 3: husband is that way, yes, and so I do like

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Speaker 3: the process. I like having something to look forward to.

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Speaker 3: I get very excited about, like knowing that that is steeping.

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Speaker 3: My problem is that, like I haven't quite figured out

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Speaker 2: Like, oh okay.

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Speaker 3: Each day it's like, what's this going to taste?

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, oh okay, this this deals with that a

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Speaker 1: The water temperature needs to be just right, the grind

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Speaker 1: the folks who proofread emails three times, organize their spice

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Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, but I don't have all the accouture

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00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: months for making this perfect, so I am guessing for sure.

448
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 3: But we once came across this like reel on Instagram

449
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: from the New York Times of like this is the

450
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: best way to do the French press. So then we

451
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: were instituting that, and it required letting it sit for

452
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: some matter of minutes, which now I've forgotten, but it's

453
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: like five minutes, four minutes, and then you stir it

454
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 3: so that brings the grains down and this sort of

455
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: like famish layer on top that you actually scoop out,

456
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: scoop that foam out, and then you let it sit

457
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: for another five minutes or so. All the while you

458
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: never put the top on, so like all this heat

459
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: is escaping, which I was kind of confused about. But anyway,

460
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Speaker 3: I still do that system.

461
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

462
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: It's like when someone is like this is the way,

463
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I.

464
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Speaker 5: Will all this blow.

465
00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: There resist conformity.

466
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: In a world dominated by carrigs and coffee shop chains,

467
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: choosing a French press is almost rebellious. Psychology research on

468
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: consumer behavior reveals that people who opt for less convenient

469
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: but more authentic experiences often score higher on measure of

470
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: measures of independence and self direction. They're not swayed by

471
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: trends or what everyone else is doing.

472
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: Well, I love that for me. I can't realize that true.

473
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: Someone said something fascinating.

474
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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, go ahead ahead, no, go ahead, No, just

475
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: about like conformity, That about like the trials and tribulations

476
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: of being so addicted to the internet and needing to

477
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: find answers through the internet. That someone was like, I

478
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: feel paralyzed by fashion. I used to be so inventive

479
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 3: about what I wear, and now I need to google

480
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 3: what does a forty five year old wear to work?

481
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 3: And like take inspiration that way. And I laugh at

482
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: that sometimes because I do the same thing.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, anyway, going.

484
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: No, I'm just trying to think if I've done that

485
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 1: recently in some way, I'm not sure, let me think

486
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: about it. They're sensory focused individuals. The French press experience

487
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: engages all the senses. The sound of water boiling, the

488
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: aroma of freshly ground beans, the visual of the bloom

489
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: as hot water meets coffee, the tactile sensation of pressing

490
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: down the plunger. I relate this to my own photography walks,

491
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: where I slow down and notice details I'd normally rush past.

492
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Speaker 3: I mean, that would be nice, except that our mornings

493
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: are completely bananas and hectic and crant is just like

494
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: things flying all over the place. Yeah, because I'm relaxing,

495
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: taking a moment.

496
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Speaker 2: Except I do. You're not noticing the bloom.

497
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Speaker 3: I'm not noticing the bloom. I do sit down with

498
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: the coffee like I don't. I don't stand like when

499
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: I actually make the French Press. I will then join

500
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: a child at the table and sit with my coffee.

501
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: And that, like first sip, is like amazing a child,

502
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Speaker 3: a child, one of them, someone's at the table, all

503
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: of them.

504
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: They have strong environmental values.

505
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: French press users often cite environmental reasons for their choice.

506
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: No pods, no filters, no waste beyond coffee grounds that

507
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: can be composted.

508
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: They're likely to bring reusable.

509
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Bags the grocery store, choice products with minimum packaging, and yes,

510
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: brew their coffee in a way that minimizes waste.

511
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's true, although I oh, well that is part

512
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: of the reason we don't have a cure ig.

513
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, they're creative problem solvers.

514
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 5: Ooh, definitely, definitely.

515
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Making French press coffee requires adaptation. Water too hot, wait

516
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: a minute, grind to course, adjust next time, running late, Well,

517
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: you'll have to problem solve that one. Studies in cognitive

518
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: flexibility show that people who regularly engage in activities requiring

519
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: adjustment and experimentation develop stronger creative problem solving skills. They're

520
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: comfortable with trial and error and view mistakes as learning opportunities.

521
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like you. I love that for me.

522
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's someone that is what you're doing with you,

523
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: Lauren for many years. Yes, that sounds a lot like

524
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: you for sure.

525
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, thanks Derek.

526
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: They cultivate mindful rituals. French press coffee isn't something you

527
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: can do on autopilot. The process demands presence. You can't

528
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: multitask your way through it unless you're Lauren like you

529
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: might want with a drip machine. This forced mindfulness is

530
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: actually a feature, not a bug, for many French press enthusiasts,

531
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: and research on ritual behavior shows that people who maintain

532
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: mindful daily rituals report lower stress and higher overall well being.

533
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: M I mean, that's as I said before the chaos

534
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: of the morning doesn't allow for mindfulness, but again that's

535
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: seated for a sip of coffee. Is my only moment

536
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: for like in this moment.

537
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: Right right.

538
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: Finally, they're confident in their preferences. Perhaps most tellingly, French

539
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Press users don't apologize for their choice. They know it

540
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: takes longer, they know it's more involved. They've heard all

541
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: the arguments for convenience, and they've decided this is how

542
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: they like their coffee.

543
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

544
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, my alternative is a little pour over situation. So

545
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't mind a slow a slow coffee.

546
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: It's fascinating.

547
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean a whole subset, a subset of people, according.

548
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: To they go find my French Press people.

549
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: Like this feels anthropological, like it is fascinating.

550
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: Although I feel like that's one of those things where

551
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: you can kind of just be like, this is something

552
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: that takes long.

553
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, right right, exactly right, No, you.

554
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 5: Must be okay.

555
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Next coffee story, tear war at thirty thousand feet an

556
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: in flight coffee nightmare.

557
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: Oh god, this is really funny.

558
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: A TikTok user named Ozon scenting Kaya posted a forty

559
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: five second clip making espresso at thirty five thousand feet.

560
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: In the video, he can be seen with a vcuum

561
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: sealed bag of eighteen grams of gesha, which he then

562
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: hand grinds.

563
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Seated in economy okay, loads.

564
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: It into a handless horta filter type thing, tamps it

565
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: with a tamper, and then there's a app enabled Sarah

566
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: Plus portable espresso maker, and he pulls the shot in

567
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: that thing, but like from his phone, and then he

568
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: tracks the shot progress on the app in his phone,

569
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Speaker 1: which means he had to bring another piece of equipment

570
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: to film it.

571
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, watching it at right.

572
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Of the over two thousand comments on the video with

573
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: over one point seven million times viewed so far, most

574
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: are not kind. They include some combination of the words performative, insufferable,

575
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: or final.

576
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Boss, which I guess is a compliment.

577
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 5: Ye right, for sure.

578
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: Performative though because he's literally doing it performing for TikTok.

579
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and the plane everyone else who's there, right.

580
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: The person who wrote about this said, Uh, he's doing

581
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: too much. Don't make your love of coffee someone else's problem.

582
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: And in closed quarters in the economy section of an aircraft,

583
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: it's everybody's problem.

584
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: Now.

585
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: If you've got no neighbors. The flight's empty, that's a

586
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: different situation. But he says, the true enlightened coffee enthusiast

587
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: is the one who has learned to appreciate bad airplane coffee.

588
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 5: No, okay, no, no, no.

589
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: No, you've lost us now, he says.

590
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: If you love if your love of coffee means that

591
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: you have to brew a gesha when you fly, then

592
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: you're loving coffee all wrong.

593
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: John's very okay.

594
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: I want to know what harm was done to the

595
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: other passengers, because I to me, I draw the line

596
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: at risk of spilling. If you're gonna risk spilling ground

597
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: or water, then yes, that is a nuisance.

598
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: But who doesn't want the.

599
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: Aroma of my yeah, my more my whole Mormon family

600
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: who never drinks coffee loves walking down a coffee aisle,

601
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: you know, like who need like the.

602
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 2: Smell unless Yeah, I don't know.

603
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it was noisy. Maybe I don't know, it appeared

604
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: to be in the day.

605
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know.

606
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: But like his elbows are getting in the way.

607
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on on his little table there.

608
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see that.

609
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine.

610
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: But I think it actually sounds kind of lovely, Like right,

611
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: what a way to customize and upgrade your in flight experience.

612
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's an act of resistance because, as really

613
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: has talked about, airplane coffee is so bad.

614
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: It's like, you gotta this is something.

615
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: And some flights are taking your coffee away.

616
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: As long as as long as this is authentic to him,

617
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: Like if he's just like, this is an experiment that

618
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to do for TikTok, I find that really

619
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: dull and uninteresting. But if this is something that he

620
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: does every time he flies because he can't not have it,

621
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: and then someone's like you should put this on TikTok,

622
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: I'd be like, tut up, I like that. Yeah, but

623
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Speaker 3: I also did I once used to do this little

624
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: podcast of my mind called This Week I learned, and

625
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going to remember all of this, but there

626
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: was something about why people order tomato juice on planes. Oh,

627
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: and there's something about the altitude that changes your taste,

628
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: and so I'd be curious if you had like really

629
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: good coffee, if it tastes even better, Which makes me

630
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: feel like maybe he is of the latter you know,

631
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: section of like he's always been doing this and now

632
00:32:48,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: he's putting on TikTok right, Wow, maybe he's onto something.

633
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this one's a bummer.

634
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Prepared linked to stronger bones and older women, while coffee

635
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: made pose risks.

636
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 5: Wow.

637
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's another health study.

638
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: It's another health scare.

639
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: It's another health suggest for women. Why yeah, of course,

640
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: of course, naturally, Well, at least they're studying us, ladies,

641
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: They are studying us.

642
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: They are studying the shit out of us. Okay.

643
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: This research, published in the journal Nutrients, followed nearly ten

644
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: thousand women aged sixty five and older over a decade

645
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to explore whether their daily habits of sipping coffee or

646
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: tea were linked to changes in bone mineral density or

647
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: be empty, a key indicator of osteoporosis risk. Until now,

648
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: evidence has been mixed. Few studies have tracked these relationships,

649
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: but over ten years, participants reported their coffee and tea

650
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: consumption while researchers measured their bone.

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: Density, and the study found the.

652
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Tea drinkers had a slightly higher total hip BMD compared

653
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: to non tea drinkers. Overall, moderate coffee consumption about two

654
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: to three cups per day did not appear to harm

655
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: bone health However, drinking more than five cups daily was

656
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: linked to lower BMD, suggesting that excessive intake may be detrimental.

657
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: But I just think drinking more than five cups a

658
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: day would make everything worse.

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00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say five, that's a lot.

660
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Speaker 3: That's indicating something else. And didn't you didn't you find

661
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: another study that was like four is the max?

662
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Speaker 2: One should have? We talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Which is a lot, a lot of coffee, which is

664
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Speaker 3: a lot. If you're having five or more, I think

665
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Speaker 3: you might have an addictive personality problem.

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Speaker 2: And I would expect a lot of things are going

667
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Speaker 2: wrong with your body.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, after sixty five having five cups of coffee

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Speaker 1: a day.

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Speaker 3: Why do you mean to stay so alert?

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Speaker 2: Yeahs as calm down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I put I'm putting very little stock in this.

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Speaker 1: But yes, you know, good to be aware of it.

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Speaker 2: I yes.

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Speaker 1: Next story, coffee scraps help blueberries stay fresher for longer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to unpack here. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: buy blueberries pretty regularly.

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Speaker 2: You're delicious.

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Speaker 1: I love them, but I also don't judge me. I

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Speaker 1: give them to my dog. My dog loves them, and

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Speaker 1: they're good any antioxidants. They're good for my dog. My

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Speaker 1: dog is a very diverse diet and she likes blue

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Speaker 1: ray so I buy them often. And it's true. They

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Speaker 1: don't last long, you know, two days later, three four

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Speaker 1: days later, there's mold at the bottom, or they're wrinkly

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Speaker 1: and shriveled or mealyon, gross and mushy. And it's true.

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Speaker 1: So that is a real thing. They're known for perishing quickly.

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Speaker 1: But now a team of chemical engineers from some Australian

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Speaker 1: university are working on slowing that decline. They've developed an

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Speaker 1: edible film made from coffee waste that could help preserve

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Speaker 1: the freshness of delicate fruits like blueberries by reducing how

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Speaker 1: much water seeps in or out. So they've created a

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Speaker 1: polysaccharide based coating that you'd like spray on your fruit.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's all fruit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That it's like a water vapor barrier, and it contains

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Speaker 1: cellulose nanofibers derived from used coffee grounds and grape seed

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Speaker 1: oil and they help create a tighter, more interconnected network,

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Speaker 1: making it hard for water molecules to migrate through the

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Speaker 1: grape seed oil being water repellent, further reduces the film's

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Speaker 1: affinity for moisture, and it leads to a food film

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Speaker 1: that's still clear and see through, while also having an

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Speaker 1: improved mechanical strength.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating, and you can just safety hument okay, safety eat.

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Speaker 2: So this is like in the making.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been able to make it and produce some

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Speaker 1: kind of like shelf stable biable version, but they're in

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Speaker 1: the labs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's coming.

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Speaker 5: Does it make the blueberries taste like coffee a little?

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Speaker 2: I wonder? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It says it provides a gentle edible skin in the

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Speaker 1: form of a spray coating or a packaging film that

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Speaker 1: preserves freshness. So I guess you could use it as

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Speaker 1: a packaging film and it's not on the fruit. Oh,

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Speaker 1: is another version that they're they're experimenting with, but that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Someone once I can forget where I was, but came

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Speaker 3: to my house with strawberries and made a point of saying,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to wash these until we're ready to

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Speaker 3: eat them. Yeah, because that will, like whatever came with

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Speaker 3: the grocery will make it last longer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is that preservatives and whatever should they put on it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting science.

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Speaker 5: Science.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this last story is kind of fun. Twenty eight

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Speaker 1: year old woman spent six thousand dollars on an airstream

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Speaker 1: trailer and turned it into a coffee shop that's now

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Speaker 1: bringing in half a million dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Damn girl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When Avery Amstutz saw her neighbor selling a nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: three airstream trailer on Facebook, she knew she'd spotted her

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Speaker 1: next business opportunity. She just wasn't sure what kind of

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Speaker 1: business it would be. The Memphis, Tennessee based serial entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: bought the fifty year old trailer using six thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: from the profits of her other business ventures. At the time,

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Speaker 1: she was a destination wedding photographer who owned a photography

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Speaker 1: studio available for rent and had a mobile cocktail trailer

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Speaker 1: that could be hired for private parties.

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Speaker 2: Cute.

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Speaker 1: She launched Byway Coffee, a mobile coffee shop that now

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Speaker 1: pops up daily at locations throughout Memphis, and over the

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Speaker 1: next year brought in more than five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: in total revenue, including over four hundred thousand in net sales.

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Speaker 1: It's been profitable since day one, sold the cocktail trailer.

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Speaker 1: Stepping back from the wedding photography. This is our full

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Speaker 1: time business.

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Speaker 2: Now, Wow, airstreams coffee trailer.

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Speaker 3: I love an airstream. They're so cute. I'm curious what

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Speaker 3: her coffee like setup is. It must be good, she said,

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Speaker 3: it's good.

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Speaker 1: She said she had never operated an espresso machine, so

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Speaker 1: she hired people who knew how to make good cups

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Speaker 1: of coffee because she just didn't know, and she didn't

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Speaker 1: know what equipment she needed. And she says there are

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Speaker 1: challenges like when you're a mobile business. I'm sure this

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Speaker 1: is true for anything mobile. You're at a location, you

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Speaker 1: don't know what the mean the needs and demands are

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Speaker 1: going to be from that particular crowd, that particular day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you kind of have to in terms of inventory.

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Speaker 1: You know, you over stock, but you don't want to

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Speaker 1: overstock where you're spending and wasting money, So you just

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Speaker 1: kind of have to like.

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Speaker 2: Roll roll with it.

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Speaker 1: Talk about me intlexible, Yeah exactly, but it just sounds

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Speaker 1: so fun.

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Speaker 2: That sounds so fun, Yeah, very cute. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 2: to look her up.

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Speaker 3: I went to a music festival and they had all

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Speaker 3: these you know, mobile food trucks and stuff, and there was

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Speaker 3: this one adorable little like hatch, like old school hatch situation,

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Speaker 3: and they were selling pies out of it, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, I love this whole setup. It was like

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Speaker 3: a cute all papered inside and so tiny and like

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Speaker 3: just little slices of pine.

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Speaker 2: It was so good vibe.

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Speaker 5: That sounds like a rom com premise for sure.

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Speaker 3: I know, right, that definitely sounds like a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was at a well, I was at a

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Speaker 1: live BattleBots show, okay, would have been a match.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, is this like?

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Speaker 4: Is this like an AI the movie, the Spielberg movie AI,

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Speaker 4: where like the robots fight each other to the death.

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Speaker 1: Well, I haven't seen that movie, but I mean, have

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Speaker 1: you seen televised BattleBots?

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Speaker 5: I don't think I have.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's nationally televised on like the Oak Show or

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Speaker 1: something like that, where, yeah, these robot designers make robots

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Speaker 1: with like extensions and things that can crush the other

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Speaker 1: robot and all kinds of things, and then they fight

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Speaker 1: it out in a ring, a glass enclosed ring, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, they move up through the playoff levels

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Speaker 1: and stuff.

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Speaker 4: The children yearn for gladiator style death matches and see

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Speaker 4: what happens in Ai By the way, the movie AI.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, when I tell you I felt very out

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Speaker 1: of place here. Okay, I felt very out of place here.

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Speaker 5: So did Hailey Joel Osman in the movie AI.

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Speaker 2: Oh did he?

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Speaker 1: My son and like eight of his little friends wanted

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Speaker 1: to go to this And there happens to be this

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Speaker 1: battle bot warehouse whatever in the town over from us. Amazing,

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Speaker 1: so you buy tickets once a month they put on

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Speaker 1: this live show and there's food trucks outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, point of a story, right, food trucks.

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Speaker 1: And I went out at some point out of boredom

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Speaker 1: to look at the food trucks and they had a poutine.

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Speaker 2: You guys, starving and just thinking it was fish. I

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Speaker 2: love poutine, but like it was delicious.

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Speaker 1: I got a They had a Philly cheesesteak poutine.

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Speaker 2: Y oh my god. It was so good, so good.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave. I'm like, when are we

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Speaker 2: coming back?

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Speaker 3: I need more battle bots and definitely situation now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, wife Canadians.

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Speaker 4: She has introduced me to the wonders of poutine and yes,

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Speaker 4: it's fantastic, although she I don't know she would like

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Speaker 4: that She's very like dogmatic when it comes to yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like the gravy type of gravy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I like respect that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are bastardized americanized you know version of.

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Speaker 3: Were those Canadian? Did they say?

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Speaker 2: I don't know where they were from, but like it

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Speaker 2: was a great addition to the y to the menu. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: That sounds good because I didn't really want like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the usual fair It was delicious yum.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, that's it for talking coffee.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so fun.

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Speaker 1: So this is the last talking coffee of the year,

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Speaker 1: but we've got lots more off the Cup.

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Speaker 2: Before the year is out.

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Speaker 1: We've got some more talking politics that you won't want

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Speaker 1: to miss. Don't we have a special off the cop.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, we have a very special New Year's Eve

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Speaker 3: coffee compilation.

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Speaker 2: Amanatcha?

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Speaker 5: What is it? Lauren?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, if you are followers of the show, you

842
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: will know that Sie ends each off the Cup conversation

843
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: with one very important question, which.

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Speaker 2: Is when is a nice coffee season?

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we have found that that is so revealing.

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Speaker 3: And I have to say, having just put this together,

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Speaker 3: it is so fun going through this. You would think

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Speaker 3: that hearing that question over and over would be like repetitive,

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Speaker 3: but like the answers are so funny and it's just

850
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Speaker 3: like just really fun. It's like a twenty minute situation

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Speaker 3: coming out the I think New Year's Eve Day.

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Speaker 4: And if you listen, longtime listeners will remember we did

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Speaker 4: something similar last year last year, but.

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Speaker 3: Now we have so many more to pick from. Like

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Speaker 3: when we did that last year, we only had three

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Speaker 3: months of content.

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Speaker 2: We have a full year. This is all of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. It's very love it and it's good to

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Speaker 2: remember our guests.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it still astounds me how that question is

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Speaker 4: answered so uniquely. It's like people answer it so differently,

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Speaker 4: and I just it's very fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it opens for some people.

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00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: It seems to open a door to like what do

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What do you want to come on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Because then someone will be like, well I had to

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Speaker 1: quit coffee a couple of years ago. Why, or like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so I'm in menopause, I can't drink beverages. You know,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you you confess a lot when you

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Speaker 1: answer that question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so fun. I would love to hear people

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Speaker 3: if they want to write in or whatever. Let us

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Speaker 3: know who their favorites are.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: My favorite is Jamel Hill. Oh my god, it made

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Speaker 3: me laugh out loud.

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember that. I don't answer.

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00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, excited. That's great. Okay, Well, so definitely be on

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Speaker 2: the lookout for that.

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Speaker 1: And as always, if you want to write in to

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Speaker 1: talk about coffee, politics, mental health, whatevs. It's Off the Cup.

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Speaker 1: Cup with two p's at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Awesome fun. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: Off the Cup is a production of iHeart Podcasts as

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Speaker 1: part of the Reason Choice Network.

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Speaker 2: If you want more, check out the other Reason.

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Speaker 1: For Off the Cup, I am your host, se Cup.

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Speaker 1: Editing and sound design by Derek Clements. Our executive producers

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Speaker 1: are Me Si Cup, Lauren Hanson, and Lindsay Hoffman. Rate

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