1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. Hey, 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: we're back for another episode of Inside the Draft. Gonna 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: be with you today. I'm Matt Taylor, joined in studio 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: by Casey Valier, and the draft is exactly three weeks 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: away as we sit here and talk right now, round 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: one Thursday night, April twenty eighth, and it's always good 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: to talk draft this time of year with one of 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: our favorites joining us today is Luke Easterling. He's the 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: editor of the Draft Wire and draft analyst for USA 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Today and you can find his work on Twitter at 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Luke Easterling. Luke, thanks for the time, man. What's going on? 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: How are you? Hey? I'm doing great, guys. It's tis 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the season for me. It's my favorite time of year 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: obviously a few weeks here to go, and uh yeah, 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: it's it's the most wonderful time of the year period. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Well let's start there. How ready for the draft are you? 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, is all the work done for the most 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: part or do you still have you know, a few 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: guys moving up up and down your board based on 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: pro days and things like that. Yeah, most of the 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: hay is in the barn at this point. Um, this 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: last few weeks is usually about um, you know, keeping track, 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: like you said, Pro Day results here, especially for injured guys, right, 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: guys that maybe didn't work out at the at the 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: combine because they were still nursing an injury. Obviously, guys 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: like Derek Stingley, Lsu Corner comes to mind, big name 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: guys that you know weren't able again to work out 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: an indie. But now we're going to get a chance 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: to be at full strength of the Pro Day, so 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: you'll get some numbers there, but also some of those 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: smaller school guys that maybe have fallen through the cracks. Obviously, 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: when you're when you're doing this, I'm not an NFL team. 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't have an entire scouting scouting team bringing me 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: all the information. So so getting three three hundred guys 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: ish you know, three hundred is guys ranked and graded 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: and scouted is quite quite the undertaking. And some guys 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: will slip through the cracks. I'll put out some rankings 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: or here and there, and obviously somebody who who went 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: to South Dakota State will be like, hey, what about 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: this guy? I don't see him in your ranking. So 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: obviously every time I see one of those, I gotta 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: go check a guy out. So you know, those types 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of things will happen over the next few weeks and 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: guys will get added and moved a little bit here 46 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: and there. But for the most part, you know, everything's 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: pretty much done. Now it's about you know, making cool 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: graphics to go along with all the work you've been 49 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: doing for the last few week and get it out 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: there in time for the draft. Yeah. People don't realize, man, 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: you are a jack of all trades. You do it all. 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: You do a fantastic job, all right. So I want 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, something that happened just earlier 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: this week. Actually, the Saints and the Eagles they pull 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: off another trade and they swap multiple picks, multiple first 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: round picks over the next couple of drafts. So the 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Saints get a second first rounder this year, the Eagles 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: get an extra first rounder next year among the other 59 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: early round picks that they already have. So, Luke, I 60 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: get this from an Eagle standpoint, But but what do 61 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: you think the Saints are thinking in this trade? Yeah, 62 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it feels like we can't go five minutes without one 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: of these. Right, I feel like every time I'm writing up, 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: every time i'm writing up a mock draft, I can't 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: get you know, I'm worried that another blockbuster trade is 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: going to make it irrelevant by the time I press published. Right, 67 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: so so so many first round picks have changed hands, 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: And obviously this one's an interesting one because you're dealing 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: with next year, but also dealing with a team that 70 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: had three first round picks. Obviously, it seems obviously, you know, 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: it seems like from the Eagles point of view, it 72 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: makes sense for the Saints. It's interesting because you gotta 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: think if you're trading up, you know, there was some talk, 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, right after the deal that maybe they're trying 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: to jump ahead of the Chargers for an offensive tackle 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't see that type of 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: move because if you're only trying to go up a 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: couple of spots for a particular guy and jump ahead 79 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: of a team that late in the first round, you 80 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: wait until you're on the clock to do that. You know, 81 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: you wait until the board has fallen a certain way 82 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: and the guy you want is still there, and then 83 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: you jump ahead of that team. Because if you do 84 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that now, if you're trying to jump ahead of the Chargers, 85 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: they just trade up ahead of you before the draft, 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: like there's still so much time for things to change. 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: So to me, for the Saints, this tells me that 88 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: there's another move coming, that they are trying to get 89 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: enough AMMO to move up into the top ten. And 90 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: I feel like you only do that if you're going 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: after a quarterback. So, whether it's Malik Willis from Liberty, 92 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett from PITT, I think Desmond Ritter is finally 93 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: rightfully getting the kind of talk that maybe he's a 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: top twenty pick. Again. The top quarterbacks always go higher, 95 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: right that. You know, we've talked for months now about 96 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: how this draft class is not very strong at quarterback, 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: especially compared to last year's, but it's so important to 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: have that guy at that position that even when it 99 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: may be a weaker class, if you don't have a quarterback, 100 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: you've got to go find one, and getting one on 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a rookie deal is obviously a huge, you know, benefit 102 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: to team building and trying to build a winner over 103 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the next four or five years on a cheap deal. So, 104 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Desmond Ritter going in the 105 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: top twenty I think, I think isn't crazy, But that's 106 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: the type of That's what it tells me from the 107 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: Saints perspective, is that they're trying. They have multiple first 108 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: round picks now this year. I think they package those 109 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: up to try to move up again. If I'm wrong, 110 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: and if they don't, I think they're in a great 111 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: position to get a left tackle to replace tarn Tarron 112 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: Armstead who went to Miami. And I think they're in 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: a great position to get a wide receiver to pair 114 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: with Michael Thomas, assuming he's back to full strength, and 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: give Jamis Winston or whoever ends up being the quarterback 116 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: they're long term, more weapons and more protection. They're in 117 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: a great spot to do that if they don't move 118 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: up again. Now, when you say that, you know, as 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: we've just talked about, most time when you do these 120 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: trades of you know, moving up in the draft, it 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: is to get a quarterback. We talked about how it's 122 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: you know, not as deep of a quarterback class. Is 123 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: there another position that you can feel that teams are 124 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: eager to jump up to get those top tier guys 125 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: at another position? In this year's draft, I don't know 126 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: if there's a specific position because of some of the 127 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: best talent in this draft is in positions where there's 128 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot of it. So if you need an offensive tackle, 129 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: it's a great year because I think there's quite a 130 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: few offensive tackles that are going to be first round 131 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: worthy to the point where I don't think you would 132 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: have to trade up to make sure you get one 133 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: of a certain number of guys, right, And I feel 134 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: the same about the wide receiver class, the same about 135 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: the edge defender class, those pass rushers. There's so many 136 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: good ones that I feel like that you wouldn't necessarily 137 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: have to move up for one because there's so many 138 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: good ones that one is going to fall to you 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: at some point, especially in that first round. So for me, 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: if that's the case, if they're not going after a 141 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe they are moving up for someone else 142 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: or a different position, it's because you want to take 143 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: the best guy or a very specific guy that you 144 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: think fits your scheme. And again, this is another big 145 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: difference between the type of work that I do and 146 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: the type of work that teams do. You know, we 147 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: in the media do this from a very macro ten 148 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: thousand foot you know, this is what this player can do, 149 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: This is how he might fit with this team or 150 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: this team or this team. You know, it's a very 151 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: very different type of evaluation process than it is for 152 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: thirty two different NFL teams who are evaluating these players 153 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: with thirty two different sets of criteria and you know, 154 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: playbooks and schemes and how players fit and what you know, 155 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: how big and long you need a corner to be 156 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: in this defense versus this defense. There's a very very 157 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: different experience doing that for a team. So, you know, 158 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: if they have a guy in mind, whether it's an 159 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: edge guy or a tackle or a receiver, if it's 160 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: not a quarterback, they may say, hey, we have got 161 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: to get this guy to play this position on our 162 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: team because we think he's that important. Then it makes sense. 163 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Then maybe they move up to make sure they can 164 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: get ahead of any team who might need that position, 165 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: who might take that guy before they get there, just 166 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: to make sure they get their guy. Now, I know 167 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: you just talked about how it is difficult to kind 168 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: of put yourself in those shoes, But is there a 169 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: guy that might be that sleeper that nobody's talking about. 170 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: It seems like you know every year there's a team 171 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: that trades up to get a quarterback and kind of 172 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: shake your head and go, wow, he could have probably 173 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: been available. Then is there a quarterback that's not in 174 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: those top three You've already talked about, whether it's Pickett Willis, 175 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: or is there like a Matt Corral that could be 176 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: a guy that people are moving up to get. I mean, 177 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: I never say never, I've always said I mean, I've 178 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long long time, and I've 179 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: learned to never be shocked or surprised by anything that 180 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: happens on draft Day and right, and to your point that, 181 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I feel like we've always had that feeling right where 182 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: we have months and months of evaluation and we kind 183 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: of get used to seeing certain guys mocked in a 184 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: certain range, or certain guys coming off the board in 185 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: a certain order at a particular position, right that when 186 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't go that way on Draft Day, a lot 187 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: of the times, I think our initial reaction is, Wow, 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that guy could have been available on Day two, and 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: why is that? Well, because I expected that, because all 190 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: of our mock draft has said that, when in reality, 191 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: if a guy goes twenty, it probably means he wasn't 192 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: getting to twenty two or twenty five, and a team 193 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: knows that, and that's why they move up to get 194 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: their guy. Because a lot of the energy that general 195 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: managers and their staffs put into this process is information 196 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: gathering from their connections throughout the league, because they want 197 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: to know if a team is going to snipe them 198 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: or not, if a team is going to take the 199 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: guy they want, and where, and trying to understand how 200 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: to maximize that value and figure out where guys are 201 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: most likely to go is a huge part of this process. 202 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: So when I see a team move up for a guy, 203 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: whether it feels high to me because of either my 204 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: rankings or where I've expected them to go, you know, 205 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm down here in the Tampa area, So you know, 206 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: when they took Kyle Trask at the end of the 207 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: second round, you know, that was a bit higher than 208 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: I would have expected him to go in a vacuum. 209 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: But that told me that the Bucks were confident he 210 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't get to their third round pick. And what happened. 211 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: They took him at sixty four, and then two of 212 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: the first teams to pick in the third round took 213 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Davis Mills and Kellen Monde went to Houston and Minnesota, 214 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: which means the Bucks knew that Kyle Trask if they 215 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: wanted him, they had to take him there because he 216 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: wasn't getting to them in the third round. So to 217 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: get back to your original question, sorry it was a 218 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: bit long winger, but that's how that process works. When 219 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: a guy comes off the board higher than expected, it's 220 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: because he was always going to go higher than we expected, 221 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: so somebody had to jump up and get him even 222 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: earlier to make sure they got a hold of him. 223 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: So you know, the guy for me would be Matt Corrall. 224 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: I think Sam Howell from North Carolina could be in 225 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: that mix as well, but I see him more of 226 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: the second round Day two guy. But again, quarterbacks are 227 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: too valuable. So if all of these top five guys 228 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: go in the first round, and think about if guys 229 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: like Ritter or Corral or even Howell, if they're on 230 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: the board late in the first round, that is always 231 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: the most popular place for teams who need quarterbacks to 232 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: trade into the bottom of the first round from the 233 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: second round, in part because you get that fifth year option, right, 234 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: you get that extra year on the rookie deal. Which again, 235 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: when you're talking about a quarterback, if you hit on 236 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback, getting that extra year on that rookie contract 237 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: is even more important than any other player, because again, 238 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: you're getting him is basically a bargain rate if you 239 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: hit on that guy. So so yeah, Corral would be 240 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: the guy to me outside of those top three that 241 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier that would make sense in terms of 242 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: going higher than maybe we expect. But all five of 243 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: those guys, because the quarterback position is too important and 244 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: I think they have the tools to be starters at 245 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: the next level, wouldn't shock me at all if the 246 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: team even moves up into the bottom half of the 247 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: first round to make sure they get one of those guys, Luke. 248 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Of all the quarterbacks you brought up, Desmond Ritter, you 249 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: brought up Malik Willis. Of all the quarterbacks in this 250 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: draft class, which of that group is most likely to 251 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: have a significant career What I think overall career, I 252 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: think that that Willis is the guy that has the 253 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: most the biggest chance to be a superstar, I guess 254 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: is what And I call this little Lamar Jackson rule 255 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: because when I went, you know, through the twenty eighteen draft, 256 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of quarterbacks that were 257 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 1: talked about going really, really high, and when I evaluated 258 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: them all, I kept coming back to the fact that 259 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: all of them had flaws, and it felt like more 260 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: people were focused on Lamar Jackson's flaws than what he 261 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: brought in a positive way, and they were less interested 262 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: in the flaws that those other quarterbacks brought to the table, 263 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: and that kind of frustrated me. So it kind of 264 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: changed how I evaluated quarterbacks in a way. Because let's 265 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: be honest, if you take a quarterback in the first 266 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: round and you don't hit, you're getting fired no matter what. Probably, 267 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: So if you're going to get fired for picking the 268 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: wrong quarterback, you might as well pick the guy that's 269 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: the greatest chance to hit a grand slam, right, Take 270 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: the guy who got the biggest, highest ceiling, Because even 271 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: if you take a mediocre guy and it doesn't work out, 272 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: you're probably getting fired. So so swing to the fences 273 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. And again, Lamar Jackson proved to 274 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: be a fantastic pick and went really really late. But 275 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, coming back to that idea of how do 276 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: you separate a quarterback class, and for me, it's Malik 277 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: Willis because he has Yes, he has slaws, Yes he 278 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: has things he needs to work on, but he has 279 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: two things that nobody else in this quarterback class has. 280 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: He has the best arm in this class and he 281 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: has the athleticism in this class that nobody else has. 282 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna have to risk on a quarterback, 283 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and again we talked about how this class is the deepest. 284 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna take a risk get the position, I'm 285 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna take a risk that gives me the best chance 286 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: of return on investment. And I think Malik Willis's physical tools, 287 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: that athleticism to make plays outside of the pocket, and 288 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: that just absolute ridiculous arm talent that I think, again, 289 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: nobody else in this class has. I'm taking a swing 290 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: on that. You know, could Kenny Pickett be a better 291 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: starter in the in the term, absolutely because of his experience. 292 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: He's a little more polished right now. But again, if 293 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm taking a quarterback in the first round, give me 294 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: the guy that has the best chance to to really 295 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: be a superstar, and I think that's Molik Willis. I 296 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: love it makes a lot of sense. All right, let's 297 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: talk about the Colts as you know, Luke, they don't 298 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: have a first round pick as we sit here and talk. Now, 299 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm barring one of those blockbuster trades that have been 300 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: going on left and right since March. But how do 301 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: you think they navigate the early part of their draft 302 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: and rounds two and three based on the needs you 303 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: have for them going into this draft? Yeah, I think 304 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: the big question for them is going to be, you know, 305 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: when we finally come on the clock, assuming they don't 306 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: pick until again that second round pick. Are we are 307 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: we more focused on life after Matt Ryan and thinking 308 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: about trying to extend you know, our life at the 309 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: quarterback position by taking a guy like Sam Howell if 310 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: he happens to be there, or are we trying to 311 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: build around Matt Ryan to keep ourselves in the contention, 312 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: you know window this year and give him a wide receiver, 313 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: give him somebody that can stretch the field, somebody in 314 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe in a in a t Y Hilton, 315 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: but a younger type of mold right. And I think 316 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: they're more likely to go that route than they are 317 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback at that spot, mostly because I 318 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: don't know if if a quarterback worthy of that pick 319 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: will get there, but also because I feel like next 320 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: year's quarterback class looks to be a bit better at 321 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: the top, and if you end up meeting a quarterback 322 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and you get a chance to pick a better one 323 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: than obviously it's a better scenario. But you know, I 324 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: really like how this wide receiver class could stack up 325 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: for them in that early to mid second round range. 326 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: If they're looking for a guy that could replace what 327 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton has brought to them, sky More from 328 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Western Michigan as a guy who again undersized guy, but 329 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: really explosive, great after the catch, can stretch the field deep. 330 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: If they want a bigger guy, I know that sends 331 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: to be their mold at ride receiver. They like the bigger, 332 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: more physical guys. I think George Pickens from Georgia if 333 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: he happens to be there again, a guy that was 334 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, hyped big time throughout his career at Georgia, 335 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: but had that torn acl after and really impacted his 336 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: ability to start strong this season, came on strong once 337 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: he finally got the full strength, and I think we 338 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: saw some of that in the National Title Game against Alabama. 339 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: But if he happens to be there again, it's a 340 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: really deep class. Not all of these receivers can go 341 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: in the first round. There's only you know, even if 342 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: we see five or six of them go, there's going 343 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: to be some first round talent at wide receiver falling 344 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: to the second round. And I think either of those 345 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: guys are there, it makes sense for them to take 346 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: that guy. And again after that, once you've handled that 347 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: that need, I think, you know, maybe you look at 348 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: left tackle. If you still don't have a veteran there 349 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: to replace Eric Fisher, maybe you go to the defensive 350 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball where you just traded away rock Yasine, 351 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: and maybe you need a corner there. A lot again, 352 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: another position that's very very deep in this class. Lots 353 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: of big, fast, athletic corners in this class, and I 354 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: think the second and third round should give them starting 355 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: caliber options at that position as well. Now you mentioned 356 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: kind of all the needs that the Colts kind of 357 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: have when you look at it from you know, just 358 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: looking at the piece of paper that we're looking at with, 359 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, potential needs at positions, and it seems to 360 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: be those are the areas of depth in this draft. 361 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: But let's say we're talking about, are you know, a 362 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: left tackle, It is tough to kind of find a 363 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: left tackle in that second round. Typically those guys are 364 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: the front end in that first round. So if you're 365 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: looking at that tackle position there at forty two and 366 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: the culture picking, who are a couple names that are 367 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: guys you know, maybe they aren't quote unquote ready right 368 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: now guys, but in a couple of years could be 369 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: a starting caliber left tackle. Yeah. One guy that I 370 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: really like is Abe Lucas from Washington State, West Coast 371 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: guys that played in a very past happy offense, so 372 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, he can pass protect. They obviously throw the 373 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: ball quite a bit out there at Washington State. So 374 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think, again, very very athletic, 375 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: has tons of potential, and again needs to clean up 376 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: his technique a little bit. And I think once he 377 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: does that, which again that's what NFL coaching is about. 378 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: I think NFL coaching staffs look at some of these 379 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: prospects and I'm like, yeah, he's he's a little sloppy. Yeah, 380 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: he needs some refine. That's our job. That's what we're 381 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: supposed to do. Give us the talent, it's the talent 382 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: in the building, and then let us take care of 383 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: the rest. And I think Abraham Lucas again might seem 384 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: a little early that that high. But again, when you're 385 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: looking for a left tackle, that that position is so 386 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: important in particular similar to the quarterback right where where 387 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe you have to take him a little earlier than 388 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: in a vacuum you think he might go based purely 389 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: on a great standpoint, but if you hit on that 390 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: franchise left tackle, it's a big deal. Another guy, Bernard 391 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Raymond from Central Michigan. The only thing, the only issue 392 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: I think teams will have with him is he's going 393 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: to be twenty five years old as a rookie, and 394 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: again that's a little bit older than you'd like to 395 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: have your first round pick or second round pick. B 396 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: But in terms of a player, I think he's fantastic. 397 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Might be a better fit at right tackle than left tackle, 398 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: but again he's a guy that I think would be 399 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: a quality starter right away. Doesn't quite have the ceiling 400 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: that I think a guy like Lucas wood. But another 401 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: name to keep in mind in that range. Well, also 402 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: there when you talk about twenty five and we're seeing 403 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: some left tackles play, I mean, look at Andrew Whitworth. 404 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: He was in forty So if you look at it that, 405 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: I mean, that's still a good fifteen year career if 406 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: you look at it that way. So yeah, for sure. 407 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: And you're always just trying to get these guys to 408 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: a second contract, right, So if you're taking a twenty 409 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: five year old guy and you're giving him a second 410 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: contract at twenty nine, and he's probably playing at a 411 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: high enough level, you're probably thinking he's probably gonna keep 412 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: playing at that level into his early mid thirties. So 413 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: that's yeah, it's not as much of an issue I 414 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: think at that position in particular, but it's definitely just 415 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: something to keep in mind. And it's it's like anything. 416 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: This whole thing is a big, massive, complicated puzzle, and 417 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: people will talk about quarterback hand size and they'll talk 418 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: about forty times and three cone times and all of 419 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: these things to be like, oh, is this overvalued or 420 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: is this matter at all? Like it all matters, but 421 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: it can all be overvalued. It's all. Every single thing 422 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: is just a piece to the puzzle, and if one 423 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: thing isn't there, you have to make sure that what 424 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: is there, you know, overcomes that and makes up for that. 425 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: So it's everything matters to a point, but nothing matters 426 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: more than the whole picture that you're getting on each 427 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: of these guys. That's Luke Easterling. We could talk to 428 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: him for two and a half hours about the draft. 429 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: He's the editor of the Draft Wire, draft analyst for 430 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: USA Today, does a fantastic job. I got one more 431 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: draft question and then before we close out with you, Luke, 432 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Buck years. As 433 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: you said, you're based in Tampa Bay and you cover 434 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks as well. I've got some interesting thoughts on 435 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. But another guy in the draft at wide 436 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: receiver a local kid, David Bell out of Purdue. He 437 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: played at Warren's Central High School here in Indianapolis. I 438 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: remember covering his games, you know, doing high school football 439 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: back in the day. How do you think he translates 440 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: to the NFL? Because he's not a guy that's going 441 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: to blow you away in a Pro Day or at 442 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: the combine, you know, testing wise, but man, you put 443 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: on his film and he blows you away. How do 444 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: you think he translates to you know, this higher level, 445 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: coming from the Big Ten to the National Football League. Yeah, 446 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm a big David Bell fan. I like his game, 447 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: a lot, and I think you were right. We were 448 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: all kind of surprised and disappointed at his combine performance 449 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: because that's just not the guy we see on film, right, 450 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: It's not what you see on game day. And again 451 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: going into Big ten, where you know there's there's fantastic competition, 452 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: and the numbers he was able to put up, the 453 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: consistency with the production, and just how much of a 454 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: problem he was and how versatile he can be. You know, 455 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: being down here in the Tampa area, when I put 456 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: on the tape and saw David Bell, I saw Chris Godwin. 457 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: That's the immediate comp that came to mind. And obviously 458 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: you can look at the athletic testing numbers and be like, oh, 459 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're not the same player at all. 460 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: But put the film on and tell me that you 461 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: don't see a guy who can line up in the slot, 462 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: can line up outside, who is tough and physical and 463 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: makes catches over the middle, can break tackles after the 464 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: catch and make big plays happen that way, can win 465 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: contested catches and doesn't have to be open to be open. Right, 466 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: he does all of those things. He blocks really well. 467 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, that's something that I think since Chris Godwin apart, 468 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: and that more and more teams are looking for receivers 469 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: who are willing and able to do that. He checks 470 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: all of those boxes. So if you're telling me that 471 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: the only problem you have with him is the fact 472 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: that he didn't run a forty the way you expected 473 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: him to, I kind of got to throw that out 474 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: a little bit because I saw him on tape doing 475 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: things that other receivers in this draft just don't do. 476 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: And again, he's got great size, you know, big physical. 477 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: I think he's athletic enough on tape, he plays fast 478 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: and if I had to pick one, give me the 479 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: guy who is fast in pads is being fast in 480 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: his underwear in Lincas Oil Stadium. So if I had 481 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: to pick, that's what I would take. So, you know, short, 482 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: short answers. I love David Bell. I think he's going 483 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to be a really, really productive pro and I think 484 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: he just does everything at a high level similar to 485 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: what we see. Like I said in Tampa from Chris Doddland, 486 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: is he going day two? Is he a day two guys? 487 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: I think he should. I think he should if he 488 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: has if he's not on, if he's on the boarding 489 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Day three, a lot of teams messed up and somebody's 490 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: going to be really, really happy, no question about that. 491 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: I think you're right, all right, Um again, you follow 492 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: the Bucks, you cover the Bucks. M Bruce Arians. You 493 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: know he was here in twenty and twelve, that was 494 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: my first year here with the Colts. He's one of 495 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: my all time favorite coaches, you know, personnel guys, just 496 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: he was awesome to work with, work around. He was 497 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: so genuine, nice, kind, authentic, transparent. I'm sure you have 498 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: some of the same feelings there covering him from afar. 499 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: But but what's his legacy in Tampa now that he's retired. 500 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: He did a lot for that organization. Obviously brought home 501 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but he did a lot of things 502 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that maybe you know about that. Fans 503 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis and around the league don't know what 504 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Bruce Arian's legacy specifically with the Buccaneers is and should 505 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: be known for. Well. I think, honestly, I don't know 506 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: if it's as much behind the scenes, but it's it's 507 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the things that have been overshadowed. I think over the 508 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: last two weeks by the by the conspiracy theories that 509 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: this this decision that he's made has been driven by 510 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and has been all about you know, Brady 511 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: wanting him out of all of these stories with again 512 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: no basis in fact or any sort of evidence whatsoever, 513 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: just conjecture, and again wanting to to drum up entertainment value. 514 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: I think is really the purpose for that. And what 515 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: frustrates me the most about it isn't just that it's 516 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: the general you know, media people making things up and 517 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: throwing things the wall and giving the rest of I 518 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: think the vast majority of the people in this business 519 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: who do things the right way, giving us a bad name. 520 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: It's the fact that it has overshadowed what Bruce has 521 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: been saying this whole time about this decision. And again 522 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: all those things that you said about your experience working 523 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: with him in Indie, that's what we've experienced down here 524 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: in Tampa. And to see him, to see and hear 525 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: him talk in his press conference, and all of the 526 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: literature that we've seen come out of his decision to 527 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: walk away as a coach. That all tracks with that person, 528 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, it all makes sense. That's who we've known, 529 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: that's who we've seen this whole time, so to see 530 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: again certain certain people in the national media who again 531 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: I think that's part of my frustration too, is the 532 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: people who are making the stuff up aren't here, they're 533 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: not in the building. They don't see what we've seen 534 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: in an experience it that way. So it's an added 535 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: level of frustration to have to be so confident that 536 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: something's happening behind the scenes that that is kind of nefarious, 537 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: instead of looking at what Bruce actually said and his 538 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: entire succession plan, how much he cares for his coaches 539 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: and his staff and his people, how important it has 540 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: been for him to hand this off to Todd Bowles, 541 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: who again as somebody he just he loves so much. 542 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: It is a it is it's an obvious next step, right. 543 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: It feels again like based on everything we've learned and 544 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: know about Bruce, this feels completely like at tracks. It's 545 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: it's something that that he's wanted to do for a 546 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: long time. It's not about Tom Brady. It's not about 547 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, leaving before he's ready, and the timing doesn't 548 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: make sense. And all that is the timing doesn't make sense. 549 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: He explained it to everybody, and I think maybe people 550 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: just have a hard time at this point in the way, 551 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: the world is believing that someone could actually do something 552 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: for selfless reasons and step away for that if you 553 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: look as if you look at his track record again 554 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: just here in Tampa, and look at what Bruce Arians 555 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: has done. The NFL again has tried with the Rooney 556 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: rule and tried to do all these things to encourage diversity, 557 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: and they haven't worked very well. They really haven't in 558 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: terms of results. Go look at what Bruce Arians has done. 559 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: While the NFL is trying to figure out how to 560 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: do this, Bruce Arians has just been doing. Yeah, he 561 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: just did it himself, right. Top four assistance are all 562 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: black coaches and again Armstrong special teams coordinator, Harold Goodwin, 563 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: who's been his assistant, his assistant head coach, and the 564 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: run game coordinator. And again obviously Todd Bowles has the 565 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and Byron Leftwich as the offensive coordinator. He 566 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: was the first NFL head coach to have two women 567 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: on his staff in full time roles. You know, these 568 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: are things that you were talking about. His legacy. That's 569 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: his legacy, no doubt. Yes, he won a Super Bowl. Yes, 570 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: it took him three years basically to turn the Bucks 571 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: for a team who never went to the playoffs into 572 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: a team that's going to the playoffs every year. Yes, Bruce, 573 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: you know Tom Brady has a lot to do with that. 574 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: But Tom Brady said flat out that he wouldn't have 575 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: come to Tampa if not for Bruce Arians. So it's 576 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: all connected. And again, so yes, there's a championship legacy 577 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: on the field that Bruce Arians leaves, but the legacy 578 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: that will be felt in Tampa and beyond throughout the 579 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: rest of the league is what he's done to build 580 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: coaches and again specifically minority coaches, both black coaches and women. 581 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: That is what will will live on. And I think 582 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: if he makes it to the Hall of Fame, I 583 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: think it'll be just as much, if not more, about 584 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: what he did in that world as as what he 585 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: did on the field as a coach. And Luke in 586 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: two two eleven, after a stint with the Pittsburgh Steelers, 587 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: he was done, he was going to retire, and then 588 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: the Colts bring him in as the offensive coordinator that 589 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: first year with Chuck Pogano and then obviously we know 590 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: what happened that year. You know, Chuck's illness, he gets sick. 591 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: The leukemia diagnosis, Bruce was incredibly uncomfortable being referred to 592 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: as the head coach or the interim head coach. He 593 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: was basically the guy. And he said this metaphorically and 594 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: then literally, I was keeping the light on for Chuck. 595 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: They left the light on in Chuck Pogano's office that 596 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: entire season, you know, from mid September on into the playoffs, 597 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: and he handled it with class, dignity, respect. I mean, 598 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: the guy's unbelievable in my opinion. So, I mean, I 599 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: really appreciate everything that you just said, because I cannot 600 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: hold Bruce Arians in any higher respect and class that 601 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: I already do right now. So I really appreciate you 602 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: saying that. Yeah, and again you hit the nail on 603 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: the head. And one thing, one last thing I would 604 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: mention is also the impact that he's had in this 605 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: community off the field with his the Arians Family Foundation. 606 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: He and his wife Christine, his son Jake. You know, 607 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: they've been so instrumental in an important part of our community, 608 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: fighting for the Guardian ad LYTAM program, which helps kids 609 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: again who are in the adoption system or in the 610 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: foster system and don't have legal representation to go through 611 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: the court system with an adult helping them and caring 612 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: for them and representing them in very overwhelming and challenging situations. 613 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: Just you know, a population that I think needs so 614 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: much love and care and they are putting again walking 615 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: the walk instead of just talking to talk and leaving 616 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: this community again. I'm born and raised here, so it 617 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: means something to me being a part of this Tampa 618 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: community and seeing him and his wife and his family 619 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: pour out that you know, out of their abundance into 620 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: this community means a lot to me. And again, like 621 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: you said, from the football side, there's so much evidence 622 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: of him just being the type of coach that you 623 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: want to root for. Go go read his statement. Is 624 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: that was the most the least pr statement I've ever 625 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: read for a guy who's retiring. Yeah, and then go 626 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: look at his press conference where he's in a Tommy 627 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: Bahama shirt pocket and like I maybe it's just hilarious. 628 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: He has always been that guy. He is not going 629 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: to be any different, whether people think it's for reasons 630 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: other than what he said. If there's ever a guy 631 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: where if he tells me something, I'm going to just 632 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: take it at face value. It's gonna be Bruce arians 633 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: because it's been that guy the whole time. No, Luke, 634 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean you'll appreciate this story again, going back to 635 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: that twenty and twelve season when Chuck became ill, you know, 636 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: we had that Monday night, you know, following the game 637 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday, you know, coaches show, that that recap show 638 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: that so many teams do, and obviously Bruce filled into 639 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: that role and it would start at like six pm. 640 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: He would come down around five fifty. He would sit 641 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: in the chair and we would kind of prep him on, 642 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: all right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk 643 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: about this, we're gonna talk about that. And he would 644 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: just basically in his own way kind way, and you know, 645 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: only Bruce can can really do. He would just basically say, 646 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: just shut shut up, Just ask me whatever you'll want, 647 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Don't tell me your plan, ask me 648 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: whatever you want. I'm an open book. I'll tell you 649 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: exactly what you need to know. You don't have to 650 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: debrief me. And that's just that's who Bruce was, and 651 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: that's who he is and that's why we all love 652 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: him as much as we do. Yeah, Bruce, was definitely 653 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: not a let's do the podcast. Before the podcast, he 654 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: knew just shut up, content would come organically during the 655 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: production meeting, and he didn't want to waste it. Yeah, 656 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: whatever you want to know, I'm gonna tell you absolutely. 657 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you going down that road with 658 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: us and all the draft coverage and all the draft 659 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: knowledge as well. Again, Luke Easterling has been our guest 660 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: Draftwire draft analysts for USA Today Again. Follow him on 661 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: Twitter at Luke Easterling. Luke, before we let you go, 662 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: what are you're writing about soon? And again besides those 663 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: two things, where else can we check you out before 664 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the draft? H Yeah? Again, most of it, most of 665 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: my interaction will be on Twitter at Luke Easterling. You 666 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: got you my draft stuff at draftwire dot USA today 667 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: dot com. Obviously I covered the Bucks as well. I'm 668 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: the editor at Bokswire dot USA Today dot com as well. Uh. 669 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: And then this this next few weeks, like I said, 670 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: we'll be rolling out our final rankings for every position 671 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: group and then my overall board, the Draftwire three hundred 672 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: will come out the week of the draft, and then 673 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: we'll we'll be talking about sleeper picks, and we'll be 674 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: talking about small school guys. We'll be talking about all 675 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: the gems that you can find in those later rounds 676 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: and just putting the finishing touches on whatever news happens 677 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: between here and there. We got three weeks left, so 678 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking at least ten more first round right at 679 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: this right the way the offseason is song, We're gonna 680 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: have these four more superstar quarterbacks traded. I don't know 681 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: who knows at this point, but whatever happens, we'll have 682 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: you covered their draft. I'm pretty sure the Rams have 683 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: just traded their next three first round picks, so it's 684 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Man. Then these next three weeks, keeping 685 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: track of everything. Luke Easterling, always fun to talk to 686 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: you man leading into the draft. Have a great rest 687 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: of the week and enjoy the draft in a few weekends. 688 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Hey, it's always a good time. Guys. 689 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: You do the same.