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Speaker 1: Last movie I did. What did it take us twenty minutes?

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Speaker 2: I don't mean that one, Yeah, yeah, you do it. No,

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Speaker 2: that one was like three and a half days. That

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Speaker 2: was three and a half days. That was our days

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Speaker 2: of reality too, because it was a full like thinking,

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Speaker 2: I had a full production. God shout out to all

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Speaker 2: my people in Cowbo that did grip Man, it's all

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Speaker 2: a blur.

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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, p Price,

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Speaker 3: Want a slice, got the brother geap all my life,

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Speaker 3: Poppy grinding all my life, all my life and grinning

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Speaker 3: all my life, sacrifice Hustle, pet Price won a slice,

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Speaker 3: Got the brocap all my life, Poppy grinding all my life.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 4: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the repriv of

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Speaker 4: Club Sha Sha. The guy that's stopping buy for conversation

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Speaker 4: on the drink today is a recognized name in Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: A multi talented and celebrity celebrated artist, a well known

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Speaker 4: actor and entrepreneur, a prominent singer, songwriter, rapper, a contemporary

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Speaker 4: renaissance man, a producer, an icon reality TV pioneer, an author,

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Speaker 4: a mogul, a marketing. A market here focused on entrepreneur,

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Speaker 4: a bona fide hustler.

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Speaker 5: Ray J. How was that intro?

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Speaker 1: I was beautiful? I mean shed I'm blushing here you

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Speaker 1: are cushing man.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Bro, I appreciate your stopping by. I understand that

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Speaker 4: you're very busy. You got a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have a lot going on. I do,

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Speaker 2: so take your time with me. I'm humbled and thank

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Speaker 2: you for having me.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a very grown setting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we want to you know, we want to

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Speaker 2: talk about grown things.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about whatever you want to talk about.

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Speaker 4: You can take it anywhere that you want.

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Speaker 1: To take it, wherever you want to take it. I'm

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Speaker 1: just happy to be here.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that you want to you want to

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Speaker 4: toast for sure, toast to you, to you all the success, Bro,

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Speaker 4: appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Club y J.

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Speaker 5: Okay. Check you're regularly from Mississippi? Correct?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm born in Mississippi, Born in Mississippi. Do you have

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Speaker 4: any memory of Mississippi? How old were you when you

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Speaker 4: relocated to Cali? I was two when.

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Speaker 2: We moved to California, and Brandy was four and we

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Speaker 2: moved to Compton when we first got here, and then

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Speaker 2: we ended up finding a crib in Carson, which is like,

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Speaker 2: you know, five minutes for Compton, and that's where we

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Speaker 2: grew up since I was like, you know, since I

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Speaker 2: was a little bitty bitty kid.

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Speaker 5: Right, So you guys didn't necessarily move.

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Speaker 4: Is there a particular reason why you left Misissippi and

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Speaker 4: came because it wasn't because you know, Brandy, your sister,

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Speaker 4: Brandy is an entertainer.

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Speaker 5: You're an entertainer.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't because that your family just decided that they

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Speaker 4: needed to leave Mississippi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom and dad came out here. And my mom,

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Speaker 2: before we even got into the industry, my dad was

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Speaker 2: so you know, choir rehearsals churchy Sunday, like we had

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Speaker 2: to go to church, like we had to go to school.

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Speaker 2: Like if I didn't want to go to church, I

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. After church was over. But

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Speaker 2: and my mom managed twenty six to twenty eight H

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Speaker 1: So that's where we were.

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Speaker 2: That's what was our main focus until we started to

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Speaker 4: So your father went to what attended Jackson Stage.

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Speaker 5: Your mom is a graduate of Southern Sounsit.

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Speaker 1: He's a AKA. Yeah, my dad's a Q. There was

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Speaker 5: So how did you? How did you once you got

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Speaker 4: So once you got to you relocated, that's when you

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Speaker 4: and Brandy started getting to the entertainment industry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we started going on auditions and stuff. We did

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Speaker 2: just started to like go with my dad. Shout out

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Speaker 2: maybe four or five times a week. So shout out

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Speaker 2: to my dad. While my mom was was working at

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Speaker 4: When were you, When were you and your sister Brandy

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Speaker 4: hit the bug? Bitch you like, this is what we

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Speaker 2: When did it hit us when we wanted to do

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Speaker 2: the entertainment business. I think we were like if you

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Speaker 2: have I have these like memories of us, like practicing

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Speaker 1: Is that my grandma was in there and.

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Speaker 2: We were on the bus and in the train with

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Speaker 2: these chairs and we were just doing a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think we got the bug when we started to

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Speaker 2: get the auditions. We started to land the roles because

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Speaker 2: you know, when you're going on auditions, man, it's tough

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Speaker 2: because you get a lot of nose, more nose than yes.

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Speaker 2: But I was able to land the Simbas show. Brandy

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Speaker 2: was on Fear and it was happening at the same time, right,

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Speaker 2: so a lot of magical things was happening in the acting.

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Speaker 2: And then Brandy dropped the album and then everything went

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Speaker 4: So you hear these stories like okay, Joe Jackson and

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Speaker 4: you hear how he drove the Jackson five.

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Speaker 5: It was like rehearsal, do this, do this, do this? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Were your parents like that or they just kind of

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Speaker 4: let you and Brandy do your own things, like Okay,

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Speaker 4: if this is what you guys want to do, okay,

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Speaker 4: let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Or worse, he relentless in his approach.

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Speaker 2: I think my dad will I hated going to cry rehearsal.

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Speaker 1: I really did.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to play with the homies, like I

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Speaker 2: us a lot. And Brandy loved it. Okay, she loved singing.

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Speaker 2: She loved getting on the bus at like five thirty

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Speaker 2: in the morning and going to Bancroft Junior High School,

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Speaker 2: So her success, I think it was deserved because she

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Speaker 2: I was out having the best time of my life.

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Speaker 2: Like that was some of some of the best moments,

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Speaker 2: just no responsibility, just flying high. My sister let me

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Speaker 2: perform on stage, so you know, all the young girls

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Speaker 1: What I mean, I just want to you know what

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to get in where I fit in, right,

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Speaker 2: And I fit into a lot of places, right, I

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Speaker 4: So was there any added pressure because you Brandy is

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Speaker 4: your sister, She's starting to enjoy a level of success.

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Speaker 4: So were the expectations placed on you, maybe by you

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Speaker 1: I didn't look at it like that then. I didn't

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Speaker 2: I was just surprised that, you know, we were on

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Speaker 2: I was there. I was getting in a lot of

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Speaker 2: what I mean, just rebelling and just finding my own

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom was very strict on that, or just

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Speaker 1: I just you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't want to do nothing that wasn't me.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, if it takes me a little

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Speaker 2: then I'd rather wait than like being like a boy

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Speaker 1: Get lost in the sauce.

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Speaker 2: And so so I just I really didn't want to

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Speaker 1: Me to do.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned that you got in some trouble as branded

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Speaker 4: started to grow, had started to blow up. Did you

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Speaker 4: understand about protecting the brand that that would be a

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Speaker 5: Y'all very close in age.

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Speaker 4: Did you understand what that meant at the time about

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Speaker 4: protecting the brand and your mom tried to tried to

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Speaker 4: you're saying your mom was like ray J brud Yeah,

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Speaker 4: or you just want to do your own thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I really was into like the Gang at the time,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and just really trying to

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Speaker 2: stay loyal to like my crew, my gang, Yeah and

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Speaker 2: c interview. And it was a time where we was

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Speaker 2: it was a lot going on, and certain people was

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Speaker 2: getting locked up, and certain people had passed away and

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Speaker 2: getting shot, and it was just getting a little a

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Speaker 2: at the time because I was in my mind, which

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Speaker 2: was stupid, but I was like really trying to activate

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Speaker 2: from all of this, you know what I'm saying. It

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Speaker 2: had helped me in and probably saved my life. So

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Speaker 2: they let me live, let me come out and be

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Speaker 1: My mom kind of kept me around, kept me safe.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that from them and I was still

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Speaker 2: getting in trouble out there with them. I was just

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Speaker 2: I'm just I was bad, like you know, smoking weed

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Speaker 2: Well, if you know, you're out of town most of

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Speaker 2: So most of the time, most of my homies call

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Speaker 2: They want us, They want you to go out and

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Speaker 1: Out with you. Right, So a lot of times you

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Speaker 5: Did your mom know that you were affiliated with a game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mom, my sister, everybody did.

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Speaker 4: And what so so, how was that conversation? Did they

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Speaker 4: We just say, ray, yet, what you're doing?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean because I didn't need to.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I was It was so much like red in my eyes.

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Speaker 5: It's hard.

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Speaker 5: You don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: That's not it's outrageous. What I'm saying right now. You

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Speaker 2: And so there's certain things that you know, I keep

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Speaker 2: right now, it's it's a new C three and C

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Speaker 2: Up and it's God's Angels never give up, right, So

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's activating all the gangs to to be

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Speaker 2: in any aspect from grip to production, to directing, to

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Speaker 2: and what they do and you know their story and

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Speaker 2: it's just so many things that people that are part

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Speaker 2: and to make money. Just like everybody else in any space.

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows your big sister, well, ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 4: people know that your big big sister's Brandon. Now what

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Speaker 4: how did she get discovered? What was what was her

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Speaker 2: Her first album I Want to Be Down Okay, and

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Speaker 2: that was produced by Keith Crouch.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Williams was in control.

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Speaker 5: So how was she a there?

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Speaker 2: About sixteen fourteen fifteen she was working on the project

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was when I first heard

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Speaker 2: The radio, I was just like, that's my big says,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was just a blessing, man, And it

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Speaker 2: was just a crazy run from that touring to Moesha

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Speaker 2: was just it was very powerful. And they brought me in,

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Speaker 2: a lot of different you know, business decisions and projects

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Speaker 2: my grandma, rest in peace and and everything that they've

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Speaker 1: Man, they are definitely the rock that I need.

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Speaker 6: To to be able to do me and know that

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Speaker 4: Whenever you're very close to your sister, I think you

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Speaker 4: a couple of years apart. Yeah, and you recently got

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Speaker 4: you got a tattoo of her.

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Speaker 5: What type of big sister was she?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Is she She's she's She's just real, man. She's like

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Speaker 2: she's been a best friend and she's understood just a

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Speaker 1: When I was just.

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Speaker 2: Going left, she understood it. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: and never really got it got in the way until

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Speaker 2: I was at the edge.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And you know you need

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Speaker 2: You know, certain things I do or certain things I

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Speaker 1: She never really says anything.

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Speaker 2: But when she thought I have the tattoos on my

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Speaker 2: she was very mad and she called me. She was like,

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Speaker 2: know what's going on, like really really strong words that

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Speaker 2: I needed, you know what I mean to kind of

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Speaker 2: and and you know, reboot.

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Speaker 5: She's your sister.

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Speaker 4: She does the album fourteen fifteen, album comes out fifteen sixteen.

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Speaker 5: That is your sister.

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Speaker 4: But could you see because like when my brother was

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Speaker 4: my brother, although he's one of the greats. You're my brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: could you see Brandon's any other thing other than your sister,

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean yeah, I was, you know, I was

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Speaker 2: So it was just nothing but just beautifulness everywhere. And

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Speaker 1: And that's your little brother. Oh, it's just like that.

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Speaker 2: And it was just I was everywhere I wanted to be,

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy how those times are like in the past,

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Speaker 2: but they feel historical. Man, they feel like they feel

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Speaker 2: like a moment in time, not just for me though,

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Speaker 1: We're blessed to have a sister and a mom and

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Speaker 4: Like that, to have disagreements when you were growing up,

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Speaker 1: Rivalry, Nah, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, what's crazy is like never because I

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Speaker 2: time we was like going back and forth in the

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Speaker 2: I was telling him that for real is one of

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Speaker 2: had his break him and Chad and the Neptunes, but

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Speaker 2: Wait a Minute with Little Kim instead of this song

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Speaker 2: we did with Rodney. But fast forward into later Rodney

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Speaker 2: and I we did One Wish, La Schiz and Freddie,

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Speaker 1: We made a massive record together later.

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Speaker 2: But the record I wanted and the people I wanted

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Speaker 2: to be around in the beginning was Pharrell and Chad

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00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: and they thought we was tweaking because it took us

446
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: ten minutes to do the song. We was rapping about

447
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: being in the club. You know what I'm saying, being

448
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: with the ladies. You know what I'm saying, smoking weed,

449
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: having a good time West Coast right on a nett

450
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: soon as classic beat, and they were like, you're.

451
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: Off the beat? Is why this is not for real?

452
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: To this is then?

453
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: And the song came out and we worked it from

454
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: the ground up, really not a lot of money because

455
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: Atlantic wanted me to go another way, and the shit

456
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: started to blow up and for Rell went from there

457
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: to there, you know what I mean, And it just

458
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 2: showed me that there's never one way to do it.

459
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: What I'm saying like, I could do my vocals all

460
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: day for nine hours and that might work. Or I

461
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: could do it one time in the in the booth

462
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: and it worked too, And so that gave me all

463
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: the things I needed really to dominate in this room.

464
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in my own space.

465
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 5: When you got the tattoo of Brandy, why did you

466
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 5: do it? And what?

467
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: And when you told her you had gotten it or

468
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: did you share with her you were going to get

469
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: the tattoo or did.

470
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: Which tattoo you got? The one that she got mad

471
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 2: at me? Yeah, she was pissed.

472
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Why do I need to take a dra too?

473
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Well she was mad because because I got Brandy

474
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: on my arm too.

475
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: I got branded. I got Brandy a couple a couple

476
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: of places, right.

477
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: But but I I got the tattoo.

478
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: On my leg.

479
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: From one of the biggest tattoo artists out mascow right,

480
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: and in his style, he like makes it kind of

481
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: gothic with red eyes and it's a little evil. The

482
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: first way he did it, he told me to keep

483
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: it like that. I'm like, nah, put your signature touch

484
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 2: on it, bro.

485
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: And when he did it.

486
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: It made it really like gothic and and I think

487
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: the tattoo went viral the wrong way. I think that

488
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: was one of I think the tattoo was.

489
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 5: Was not it for the world.

490
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: I like the tattoo because I think maybe he's should

491
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: have taken the red eyes out right.

492
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: But you asking me to put his touch on it

493
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: because that's his stout.

494
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: I was like saying that Boskiocht, don't put your your

495
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: signature Boskiocht on it, or you know, warhol to not

496
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 2: do what he does, or Picasso or whoever other you

497
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: know artists people like and so yeah, I mean even

498
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: I think India Iri DMed me a few people like, man,

499
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: you you need to pray, and I'm like, yo.

500
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: It was.

501
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: I explained to her what it was and she's like, okay,

502
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: but a few people hit me mad at me about it.

503
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: It seemed demonic to them.

504
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: So that's kind of what she was more upset about

505
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: is because of the portrayal, because it's God thinking.

506
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 5: It looks kind of sinister.

507
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: I think, so I think she was. She didn't really

508
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: say too much about it. She just was, it's a

509
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: little concerned about it, you know. But she wasn't really tripping,

510
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: but but the but it went viral, right, it went

511
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: viral bad.

512
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 4: Your acting career, did you tell your parents you wanted

513
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: to do this or it just happened.

514
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 5: It happened by accident.

515
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to act, you wanted to act?

516
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the Simbash show early, and at the time,

517
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: the Simbas Show was a bigger show than THEA So

518
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: I was feeling myself.

519
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, sim Band sin Band was nice.

520
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: I think it was on files and and then then

521
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: Brandy dropped the album and it went into places that

522
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was realistic anyway, So it all

523
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: worked out. You know, I liked acting. I like acting.

524
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't like it now because it takes too long,

525
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: but I liked it then, right.

526
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 4: So given a choice, you would have preferred acting over

527
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: music or that.

528
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, music in the beginning was always like a hustle.

529
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: After and I went independent because my mom and my

530
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: dad and my sister.

531
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: They gave me a half a million dollars to.

532
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: Do my new project because no label wanted to sign

533
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: me and nobody was really fucking with me at the time,

534
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: and I think they gave me the money so I

535
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: can continue to fulfill my dreams and my goals. But

536
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: did they believe that I could make a hit after

537
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I never questioned it because they they

538
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: just they gave me the money because they wanted to

539
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: help me and they wanted me to.

540
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: Keep going okay, And so.

541
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: I did the album, and I gave Rodney a lot

542
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: of money to do the album for me, and I

543
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: gave Little X like a few hundred grand or a

544
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: couple hundred grand to do.

545
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: The one which video.

546
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: I got a treatment from Hype, but it was like

547
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: six or seven hundred thousand. I couldn't afford the video

548
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: at the time. But Little EX killed the treatment best

549
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: treatment and the song, I mean, by the grace of

550
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: manifestation and just having the will to win. The song

551
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: actually was probably still today my biggest record, and we

552
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: owned the record one hundred percent. It was independently done

553
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: with a distribution company called Sanctuary, which really focused on

554
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: rock and roll. It's impossible to do that at the

555
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: time with no DJ support.

556
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: But God is good.

557
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: And he worked it through man and the song took off.

558
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: The album ended up selling four hundred and some thousand

559
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 2: at twelve ninety nine, which was another big move for

560
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: us that was a silent hitter, really didn't boast a

561
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: brag about it, and just started to build another system

562
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: of marketing after that.

563
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: You know, you said they gave you a half a

564
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: million dollars to do your thing. Yeah, do you think

565
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: they believed in you that it could or they just like, well,

566
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: here here's half a million. Go do what you're gonna do,

567
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 4: and let's see if this thing worked, and then if

568
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: it works, now others or we'll come back again and

569
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: donate more. Because it doesn't seem like you thought that

570
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: they thought it was gonna be. They just like, here,

571
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: here's half a million, Go do what.

572
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: You do in this game of life. And you're young.

573
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: You don't see what's in front of you, right, you don't,

574
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: and so you don't know what's gonna happen.

575
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: All you know is what you have. And there was

576
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: this R.

577
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: Kelly record I did, and they wanted me to go

578
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: with that record, and I just said, dude, we're independent

579
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: and this might not work anyway, So let's go with

580
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: a song that I'm singing my heart out on that

581
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: has a lot of meaning to it. Let's just take

582
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: the risk with this special song, okay, and we did it.

583
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: And I don't know when it became a hit, cause

584
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: when you're out working the song, you don't really know

585
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: when it's a hit.

586
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: But it was a hit, and.

587
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Then we made we made some money, and and then

588
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: we had to restart again, like everything starts itself over again.

589
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: No matter if you make money or not.

590
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: In this entertainment business, you have to keep moving to

591
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: the next, right to the next.

592
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 5: Can't rest on your lawrels. It's time to move on.

593
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: And I've never celebrated. I've never had a chance to

594
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: celebrate anything. Really, I don't think so.

595
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: But let me ask you a question.

596
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: How close proximity was you doing what you're doing on

597
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: your album now, your song and the the show Moesha?

598
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 5: Are they? Are they close?

599
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: No?

600
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: One wish is close? Yes, okay, One wish is close

601
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: because I did it after Moesha on One on one,

602
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: because I was also on One on one, the sitcom

603
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: One on one for two seasons, so it was around

604
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: around in that world.

605
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a little bit after.

606
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you this, do you believe having

607
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: hurt as your big sister helped you or hurt you more?

608
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: It helped me.

609
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: It would never hurt me. If I ever said that

610
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: I would, it would be I would. I don't know

611
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: to to think that.

612
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would.

613
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: That's emotional too. If I was to say that, I

614
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: would cry because that's just not okay.

615
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

616
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: Everything that they've done in Brandy, it was all supposed

617
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: to be for now it was. It was never anything

618
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: else again. If I could just go back to being

619
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: Brandy's brother, it.

620
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Was just so lit.

621
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: I just can't explain how lid it was then, and

622
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: then to overcome that into another world, like I got

623
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: what I wanted, you know, I wanted to be the

624
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: opposite or got that?

625
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Did I get it? Did it? Was it? Too much

626
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: of it? Maybe? You know? And I'm still trying to

627
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: get right.

628
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: Because it's got to be hard. You got a sister.

629
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: It's not like she's ten years fifteen years older than you.

630
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: She's only two years older than you. And you see

631
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: her career as going boom boom, boom boom. And you're

632
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: right there because I have an older brother, and everybody's like,

633
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: you ain't as good as your brother. You can't run

634
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: as fast as your brother, you can't jump as high.

635
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: The comparisons are going to be there. And I understand

636
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: it's a young lady to a male. I get that,

637
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: but you are her brother, and they expect what she

638
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: can sing, she can dad, she can act, they expect

639
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: the expectations are placed on you, rightfully so or not?

640
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was it was in the beginning like that.

641
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: And that's why I was so blessed to meet for

642
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: Real and Chad and the Neptunes, because the sound that

643
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: they gave me countered what she was doing, what not

644
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: only was she doing, what one of the biggest producers

645
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: in the world was doing with her, what they were

646
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: saying I should do? You know, and this will never

647
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: work this way?

648
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 5: Right?

649
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: And then you you turn around and you prove a

650
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: lot of people wrong. The problem with that is that

651
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: once you prove people wrong, you can't see anything else.

652
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: You can't hear anything. You're not listening. Oh yeah, okay,

653
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: and so god, you know, if you're going if you're

654
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: being too cocky, or you know, just you have the

655
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: wrong mission, the wrong words, the wrong energy around other

656
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: great people that you should be humble to be around. Right,

657
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna fall on your face there's no way around it.

658
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are.

659
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: God always gives you a reality check, or with whatever

660
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: higher being you believe in, it's inevitable. And so that

661
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: happened a couple of times, and that that's exactly what

662
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: people need, like myself or anybody who doesn't understand it

663
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: and who falls by the wayside early in the game

664
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: with new money and trying to let people know I've

665
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: told you so, right. So when you do win and

666
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: people were not right and you were right, that's when

667
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: you should start listening to people. That's when you have

668
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: the moment where now you're on. So be a team player.

669
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: Listen to what people say. And as higher as you go,

670
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: the higher you go, the more humble you should be.

671
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: That's just how you have to be.

672
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: If I'm listening to your correct you was like, I

673
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: have this idea of what my sound should sound like,

674
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: so I want to go here. They wanted they have

675
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: an idea of what your thought. They thought your sounds

676
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: should be like. They wanted you to go there.

677
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: It was like a song called everywhere you Go You're

678
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: Seeing Ray Jay Sons of Us, like no disrespect. It

679
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: was a cool song, but it just wasn't not then, right.

680
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to be in the club. I wanted to

681
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: fuck with like that women and just like stay lit,

682
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: like that's all I knew, right, So it was I

683
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: never really serenaded a woman.

684
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: I never really like you.

685
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: Go, like when I was in rs VP, Bobby Valentino,

686
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Sammy Pleasure Pee.

687
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: When I'm around these are my dudes.

688
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: They sing all day a girl come around and be

689
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: like baby right right on here, right. I ain't never

690
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: been like that, so to have to do that, I

691
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: hated that in the beginning. I needed to sing some

692
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: shit that was going to be more like fitting at

693
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: like what my lifestyle is, right, and so yeah, and

694
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: Pharrell gave me that record, but there was a record

695
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: call out the Ghetto that I should have did after

696
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: that he told me to do, and I didn't even

697
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: listen to for real. And when I didn't listened to

698
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: for real, that's when I felt hard because he had

699
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: my back and he knew the vision and it was

700
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: so it was vividly perfect, but I just was too.

701
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I was just I was an idiot and I was

702
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: just too into like being lit and not giving a fuck.

703
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: But Ray, you saw the vision in for real when

704
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: no one else did you go? He give does the

705
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: song with you? He said, you know what our next

706
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 4: project should be?

707
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: This?

708
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Your next single should be there? Yes, you say, come

709
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: out off for Wait a minute. If I would have

710
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: released Out the Ghetto, But then who would I be?

711
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: Where would I be? I could be lost in the

712
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: sauce and dead right now, rich and dead, successful and

713
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with like where life was?

714
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: You know you never know?

715
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: So are you overthinking it?

716
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: No?

717
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Because I'm here now with you.

718
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: But here's the thing. Who's to say you would still

719
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 4: be here with me if you did it in the ghetto.

720
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: You're right out the ghetto, out the ghetto. You know

721
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: you're right?

722
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: And so those are things that those are great depressions

723
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: that I went through as I watched Pharrell succeed and

724
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: Chad succeed, the Neptunes with just every artist you could imagine.

725
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: They were a part of their success.

726
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: And knowing that I was with Pharrell and I had

727
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: that I had that connection and I and I and

728
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: I fucked it up.

729
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, it took me some time to uh, to

730
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: get back on my feet.

731
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: Is that what happened is that when you have an

732
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: opportunity and you think something can be successful and you

733
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: miss that opportunity. Is that when the depression starts because

734
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you, like I said, I think

735
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: you overthink a lot of things, but you start to think, like, damn,

736
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: am I gonna have another hit?

737
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: Will this ever happen again?

738
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Everybody?

739
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: I think everybody goes through those realizations if they made

740
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: a mistake at the some of the most important parts

741
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: where the fork is in the road for how your

742
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: life's gonna go. Yeah, you know, you go through that,

743
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't get a second chance, true,

744
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't try again. And so

745
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: for me to continue to try and just continue to push. Uh,

746
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: it was a tough just a tough job any man.

747
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: But it was well worth it, right, it was well

748
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: worth everything that that that's that's happened.

749
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: But you have your acting career as kind of simultaneous

750
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: as you're doing music because you have uh, you know,

751
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: Steals and Mars attack As a kid shots in the cast,

752
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: you got Jack Nicholson, Jack Black, Danny DeVito, Rob you

753
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: you a kid and you would yeah, big time stars,

754
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 4: I'm talking about AA List.

755
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Tim Burton directed. Yes, No, it was big.

756
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 5: I mean I was directed the first Batman.

757
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Yep, I was floating, you know, and a lot of

758
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of things I don't even remember.

759
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 5: Really.

760
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: It's like some people that's like gigantic, Like they would

761
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: tell me like we had moments and we were hanging out,

762
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, really, because I've been looking at

763
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: you for the past eight years just a fan, and

764
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know we even had moments, right, So these

765
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,560
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766
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,560
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767
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,680
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768
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: ye am, I sweating?

769
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: Are you good?

770
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: A little bit skinning, a little hot, skinning a little hot.

771
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,640
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772
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,359
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773
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,200
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774
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,320
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775
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,759
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776
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640
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777
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Speaker 5: You upbringing, you grow up.

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00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 4: Your sister's famous, she's big time actor, she's a singer.

807
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,080
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00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,239
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00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,160
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00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Uh? Like when you're doing TV?

811
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 2: You always got like my mom always yeah, so she's

812
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: we always had trust funds and stuff. So I always

813
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,439
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814
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,839
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815
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. I bought like this g ride, this big

816
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: ass like Cadillac. It was the big long one. Okay,

817
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: I was like fourteen. I was getting like, you know,

818
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: three hundred a week. That's solid back in the day. Yeah,

819
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: So I bought the g ride for like three fifty, right,

820
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: and I had it parked down the street so I

821
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: would drive it here and there, but I let the

822
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: homies drive me around. But yeah, that was one of

823
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: my first purchases was the g Ride Cadillac. It wasn't stolen,

824
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: It just was like one of the homies like aunties

825
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: that didn't want it no more.

826
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but my people didn't know. So I did have

827
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: a car like fourteen.

828
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: But mom and dad didn't know you had a car.

829
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: I mean that car too. It was like it was

830
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: one of them big ass you had, like an l

831
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: dog or something.

832
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

833
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: So if I was, I drove it a couple of times,

834
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: but it just didn't even look right, you know what

835
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

836
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: But nah, they they didn't tell me. No.

837
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: There was always a limit to do stuff. But back

838
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: in the day, I always kind of went over the limit,

839
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Again, they always had to

840
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: bring me back out of the Yeah.

841
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: Right, But you had a lot of famous friends growing up.

842
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 4: How how was that hanging out with famous friends?

843
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Well, Snoop was my cousin, Yes, and so and Dad's

844
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: was my cousin. So I would if I wasn't in

845
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: the neighborhood or over in the fruits were Demetrius.

846
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: I was.

847
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: I was at Cannon, So I used to like go

848
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: down the street and Snoop and Das would pick me

849
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: up and then I would just high under the back

850
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: of the Cherokee jeep until I got past my pops

851
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: and then we would go to the valley.

852
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man.

853
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: I remember the last time I got caught out there,

854
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: and I had found some Playboy magazines at my school

855
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: and it was like under the dirt. It was like

856
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: about fifty like nineteen fifty Playboy fifty fifty one, and

857
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: my dad and mom caught it, caught me with him

858
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: under the bed with a little bit of weed and

859
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: coming in from Canam.

860
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: I was lit. I got caught.

861
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: I got my ass beat real bad. I think that

862
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: was my last whooping. But it was like what the

863
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: stension cord?

864
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, an orange one?

865
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 5: You remember that one?

866
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Huh?

867
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: If that's the last one you bought, Mom and dad,

868
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: probably this is the last time we're gonna be able

869
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 4: to do it. So we're gonna make sure we put

870
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: this thing on the right so he'll remember it.

871
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: When my pops was going to prepare, I was putting

872
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: all the clothes on my back, trying to get it right.

873
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: As soon as he started, that shit slid all the

874
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: way down to the bottom. But yeah, that was my

875
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: that was my last whooping.

876
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: But later my dad and my mom found out that

877
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: they were old magazines. They thought I was lying, right,

878
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: But when they I guess they looked at him, but yeah,

879
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: they saw that they was old.

880
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: Right.

881
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: So how did you How was it like hanging out

882
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: with Snoop? Because you know, I've gotten to know Snoop,

883
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 4: I've known Snoop all more thirty years now, and he's

884
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 4: he like I don't know him, like in his home.

885
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 4: I've never been in this present like that. But when

886
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: he's around, he just makes you feel like you the homie.

887
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: He makes you feel so good that he's so cool,

888
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: he's so down to earth.

889
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of different phases, you know,

890
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: through the nineties two thousand.

891
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you watch you watch Snoop evolve.

892
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: Through a lot of the rough times with death Row

893
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: and if I wasn't with Snoop and Dazz, I was

894
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: always with Shugs, So it was it was a weird combination.

895
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: But every time, you know, you with Snoop, you just

896
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: get inspired to just be great and do your own thing,

897
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: not give a fuck but care you know what I mean,

898
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: and really just just stay on your shit, you know

899
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: what I mean?

900
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: Are you surprised because he he's one of the most

901
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: recognizable names, one of the most recognizable faces in the

902
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 4: entire world. And you watch it, you say, the maturation

903
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: and you see the phases and the evolution. It's like

904
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: and you can just see it. Yeah, like he was

905
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: once considered this and now he's with Martha Stewart. He's

906
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: hanging out with the biggest and the multi billionaires, and.

907
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: He has equity and a lot of companies that a

908
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: lot of people don't know from the business side.

909
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: So and he's helped a lot of companies.

910
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: I mean it's just in the stock market, just when

911
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: he stamps it, I mean numbers go up. So the

912
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: power he has and these different communities are you know, unmatched, unmatched.

913
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: So now it's it's good watching what he does. And

914
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: for me, I always watch the team. Like everybody has

915
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: a team. You come with a team, and you don't

916
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: need a hundred people on your team. You need like

917
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: four or five really strong like assassins in their position

918
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: to do what they do. And he's always had that.

919
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: You know, that's he's made adjustments and as you can see,

920
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: now everything is on autopilot, but he's hands on with

921
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: everything at the same time. So to do ten things

922
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: like that or twenty things. I remember many things he's doing.

923
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: To have that team, to keep everything balanced, keep the

924
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: substance there, keep everything on time, keep everything structured.

925
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: That that's the beauty and that's what I.

926
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: Respect most about Snoop outside of him just being a

927
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: great family, father and just friend.

928
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: You know, high school? Did you go to a public

929
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: high school? Did a hell? Noah?

930
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: I went to Curtis and I got jumped at Curtis.

931
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: I was junior high and I couldn't go to Curtis.

932
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: Why did jump you?

933
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 5: Did they know you? Who you were?

934
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: They didn't know, They didn't care who I was. On TV?

935
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: Was in my cousin Reggie and Ryan, and shout out

936
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: to my cousins. They stayed closer to the mall in Delamoh,

937
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: and we stayed in cent of you. So it just

938
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: we had issues with certain people there when we were younger.

939
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: So it was somewhere I definitely shouldn't have been going

940
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: to school, But now they let me up maybe a

941
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: couple of times, and then I ain't go no more.

942
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: Then I tried to go to a school in the valley.

943
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: I didn't really go to school.

944
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: Damn.

945
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: But but I got a diploma. I got the diploma,

946
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: but I never went to school. I had I had

947
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: tutors too. I told you my tutor stories. Yeah, yeah,

948
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: tell us the story.

949
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: I wonder what my tutor is. Joyce.

950
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: Where are you shout out to my tutor Joyce? Yeah,

951
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: we would. We would always go out and do our

952
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: work outside in the field, somewhere where we can overlook

953
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: the world. Right, so my mom, let me go out

954
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: with my tutor. This is my last tutor. Yeah, because

955
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: I kind of ditched the tutor from like fourteen it's

956
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: sixteen sixteen.

957
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joyce was the ship.

958
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: Wow we should we should do we have documentation of

959
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: you having a diploma.

960
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: I graduated. I got the I graduated.

961
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 5: I mean sometimes you graduated getting certificate.

962
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: Nah, I got for participating in high school. No, so

963
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 2: I graduated from college too. But I graduated from college Hill,

964
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: I graduated from Alabama State. I got a I got

965
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: a certificate for multiple disciplinary studies. So I'm disciplined in

966
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: multiple areas, you know what I'm saying. Still, and I

967
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: got my diploma. You like you see me celebrating. I

968
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: got the I got my baseball hat on. I had

969
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: a big ass party after I graduated, with like a

970
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: lot of pregnant women and delinquents and stuff that never

971
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: went to school.

972
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of us in the graduation.

973
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: But it was lit.

974
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: Okay, So what was it growing up? What was it

975
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: like growing up for you in Hollywood? Because it seemed

976
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: like when you were in high school you are problem.

977
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's when it was.

978
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: That's when it was popping in Hollywood. So I was

979
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: so like and I wouldn't say bad, like I'm doing

980
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: bad things to people. I was just lit and you

981
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, doing grown shit a little bit

982
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: at sixteen seventy Yeah, in the clubs and shit.

983
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 4: And so parents know you were in the club. No,

984
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: so you sneaking at the house?

985
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so where they thought you were. When I was sixteen,

986
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: I had a convertible.

987
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: I had to BMW convertible that that my mom and

988
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: pops got me. It was a convertible Beamer. Brandy already

989
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: had the four point six range. Back in the day,

990
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 2: you were the four points you have to be point

991
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, b had the four point six. She didn't

992
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: want to drive it no more. I'm in that motherfucker, right.

993
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: So I was just moving around a lot, like it's

994
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: crazy to see what was in the nineties and I was.

995
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: I was able to witness that. For anybody that seen

996
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: me in the nineties and knew that that that I

997
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: was Brandy's brother, they was just it was a trip

998
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: to them, Like it was like, what the fuck is

999
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 2: going on?

1000
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm thinking the same thing as you're.

1001
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: Telling the story, like, bro want to they want to

1002
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: see it in action. So I would pull up and

1003
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: then have fun with everybody and be lit. You know, man,

1004
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: it was a good It was a good time. That's

1005
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: why being being Brandy's brother was the greatest. Yeah, Like

1006
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: it was never any friction on trying to be better.

1007
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 4: Right, So there's no downside there. There can't be any

1008
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 4: downside of that.

1009
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: I would be insane, would be all posity.

1010
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: I mean at the highest level to the stars and

1011
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: the stars beyond.

1012
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was the greatest.

1013
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 5: Your mom was your manager?

1014
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: Still my mom still, she's my third I Now, she

1015
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: watched the management team, she watched the lawyers, she watch everybody.

1016
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: What she branded manager.

1017
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: Also absolutely absolutely.

1018
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 5: So that's a blessing.

1019
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 4: Because now you have someone that sincerely have your best

1020
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 4: interest that can you know, hey, here's the money, This

1021
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 4: is the money coming in. This is what we have

1022
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: to pay X, Y and Z. This is what we

1023
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: need to save to make sure because if this thing

1024
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: ends tomorrow, we need to make sure that we're set

1025
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: up for past tomorrow exactly.

1026
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: And you know, she's always instilled that with us.

1027
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: And even when we thought sometimes we was low, we

1028
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: were still up. You know that's just because moms have

1029
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: put these safety nets and accounts and make sure we

1030
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: paid all our taxes and you know, just a lot

1031
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: of different things that's important to be able to survive,

1032
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: like a three decade run, right, you know, it's hard

1033
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: to survive one, so read three of them. You know,

1034
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: something's got to be working, right, there's some kind of

1035
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: template that we're following that is actually a proof of

1036
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: concept that works and that's consistent throughout the throughout the time.

1037
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 5: Does she have anybody else besides you and your sister?

1038
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: She did over the years. She did, over the years

1039
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: of seven O two silk tiny, I mean a plethora

1040
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: of other people. Wow did I use that word?

1041
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Jesus Jesus?

1042
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, just a lot of people she's helped along

1043
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: the way, but she's always kept us in first priority.

1044
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1045
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: How different would your life be had you not had

1046
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 4: that strong woman which is your mother, which is also

1047
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: your manager. How different would Gray J's life be?

1048
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: Man, you know how I was talking about. I fell emotional.

1049
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: That's an emotional question.

1050
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't.

1051
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even know what to do. Man, that would

1052
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: be I'll probably be dead.

1053
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Because she has to wear several hats.

1054
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: She has to be your mom at all times, but

1055
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 4: she also has to be your manager and try to

1056
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: negotiate and navigate you through music, entertainment or whatever commercial,

1057
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. So she has to be

1058
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: two but she always number one priority is that she's mom.

1059
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know I talk to my mom every

1060
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: day and she's been helping me with the new network.

1061
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: And when you have somebody like my mom on your

1062
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: team I'm talking about, you get twenty four hour hard work.

1063
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean three am on the phone with India.

1064
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: Every night working on upgrades to upgrade to trying this

1065
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: network and back on it with me at nine and

1066
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: then dealing with the issues. Maybe that Brandy niece, who

1067
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: are my little niece and still you know, taking care

1068
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: of the kids when I need her to watch the kids.

1069
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's just you know.

1070
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: You know, your mom or that that that woman figure

1071
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: in your life. Nobody should take that for granted because

1072
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: it's just it is the most, it's the most. It's

1073
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: the only thing that you really have that you know,

1074
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: if you gotta survive and you down to nothing, like

1075
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna find a way.

1076
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 5: They're gonna be there for you.

1077
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Not just be there for you.

1078
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna find a way. They're gonna find a way

1079
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: to make sure you straight.

1080
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 4: How often do you bounce things off of Brandy now?

1081
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, seem emotional? What I mentioned her? What's going on?

1082
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing, I just I don't.

1083
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: It's just Brandy's goals, right since the beginning, have been

1084
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: totally different from yours. Yeah, And there's a lot of

1085
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: things that I'm involved in that I.

1086
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Just don't coincide with what Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1087
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: And as much as as much as you know that

1088
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: we're all together, man, some things, I gotta.

1089
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: Some things I gotta like try to like scale here.

1090
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, even lately, even certain events that I think they've

1091
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: been having. I mean, I haven't got the invite, and

1092
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm good with that, but I understand why.

1093
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: And and you.

1094
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, I'm I'm I'm here, but I

1095
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: haven't lately because it's just a lot of the ship

1096
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing now, it's just a different it's a little more,

1097
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: uh left field. It's a little more outrageous, a little louder,

1098
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: a little more dramatic, a tad bit distasteful at times.

1099
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: But you do realize you guys have been so close

1100
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: for so long being that you still can have that conversation.

1101
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 4: I think you would welcome back to you. Maybe you

1102
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 4: can explore and say, Brandy, we're two different people. Yeah

1103
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: we're the same bloodlines, but what you got going on

1104
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 4: in what I have going on, although it's different, I'm

1105
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 4: still ray.

1106
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: J Absolutely she knows that.

1107
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: And and for me on the on the side, I'm

1108
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: not only I'm her brother, and right or wrong, I'm

1109
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die for whatever situation she needs me to

1110
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: be in. But you know, I still I still know

1111
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: where I see Brandy, where I see the vision when

1112
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: I can see the future, because I can see the

1113
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: future for like three seconds, and in that future, I

1114
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: see Brandy and Monica just torn for like two years, right,

1115
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: and I got that dream. So even though she understands

1116
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: where I'm at, I still understand where she's at. But

1117
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: I understand what needs to happen right now, is that

1118
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: tour needs to happen.

1119
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you had you were front stage when I

1120
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: don't know, may be it was manufactured, maybe the industry

1121
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: manufactured it, manufactured it between Monica and Brandy.

1122
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, was that real or imagine.

1123
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: That's the one that you know that's one hundred real,

1124
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: whatever it is, I don't know. I just think you're

1125
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: in with just being competitive, okay, And I don't know

1126
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: anything other than that, but just the competitiveness of it.

1127
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: And then you got your your squad and then her squad,

1128
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: both support on each side. But then you have that

1129
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: one record that's you can't pretty much be touched the

1130
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: numbers wise, chart charting wise successful, and so why wouldn't

1131
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: you focus on the greatest thing that can happen?

1132
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Get that done?

1133
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: Secure, Secure, just an enormous amount of liquid to put

1134
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: aside and and and then figure out anything else. So

1135
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: just put all that ship to the side and go

1136
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: out and get and get and give the world what

1137
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: they want, give me what I want as a fan.

1138
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: So I've I've been preaching that and going to happen.

1139
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I pray.

1140
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm a big manifesto. I mean, I want it. I

1141
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: want to see it happen. And then everybody goes, well,

1142
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: you said that Brandy should headline. It's like, it's not

1143
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: about that, you know, It's about them going out and

1144
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: doing a great show. Who headlines and all those things

1145
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: that go along with it is all about.

1146
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, you know.

1147
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: Just all of those entertaining things people can talk about

1148
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: and choose from as they go and they win together is.

1149
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: What it's about, you know.

1150
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, so yeah, that's But as far as me,

1151
00:57:50,040 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: I love being every day I'm trying to uh uh,

1152
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

1153
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

1154
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sure that I'm consistent with the winds.

1155
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: But I don't.

1156
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: I don't make her mad or my mom mad or

1157
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: my pop's mad, you know what I'm saying, or embarrassed.

1158
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: That's because they're gonna watch this and are you divulging

1159
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: things that their probably is going to get them upset

1160
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: because I don't know if people know that, because they

1161
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: just automatically assume that you and y'all still have this

1162
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: great relationship. You got it, and I'm sure you do,

1163
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying you don't. It's just like you

1164
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: don't talk daily or as much as you.

1165
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Once did, as much or as much as I want to.

1166
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: Okay, have you had a set down? Can you have

1167
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 4: a had you have a set down with her? Have

1168
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: you had a conversation? Have you picked up the pall said,

1169
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: B I just need to talk to you. I just

1170
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: want to talk to my big sister.

1171
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: Well, I seen her am I am my daughter's party

1172
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: and and I told her that, but we haven't.

1173
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: But it's nothing wrong.

1174
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: It's just I I know, I know some of the

1175
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: shit I did has been loud, and I'm not proud

1176
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: of those things in certain aspects. And I know a

1177
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: lot of shit that I'm about to do it might

1178
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: even be louder than that. If to just be honest

1179
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: and so to come and talk about growth or change

1180
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: when there's a lot more to come with it, it

1181
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: just might not be the right time yet, knowing what's

1182
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: in front of me.

1183
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: Right, But you know, she looks at you. It's like this,

1184
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: she has this reception of her little brother da. Her

1185
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: little brother is evolved. Her little brother is not a

1186
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: little brother anymore. He's still a little brother. But either

1187
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: grown man has his own idea, wants to do things

1188
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 4: his way that doesn't necessarily coincide with who she is

1189
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 4: and what she's about it.

1190
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I made some mistakes though, and I'm and

1191
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make them up. You know, nothing to that extent,

1192
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 2: nothing that she's even thinking about, but just deep down

1193
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: on what I know as we progress, I know that

1194
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: there's there's some things that I want to make sure

1195
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: we make right, just in some of the ship that

1196
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: I've been doing.

1197
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 5: You know, I read that you knew Michael, Michael Jackson, Oh.

1198
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: Brandy, Brandy you know, going back to Brandy Man. If

1199
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't for Brandy.

1200
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Man, she moved you over. Everybody you got to meet, everybody.

1201
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: Who Michael would have left me hanging. My hand was

1202
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: out there for ten minutes.

1203
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: In another row.

1204
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: He already said what's up to Brandy, But he didn't

1205
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: see my hand, and a lot of people behind me

1206
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: could just see my hand out there, and I'm like, God,

1207
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: just I'm about to I'm about to, you know what

1208
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying, accept the defeat, and she liked Mike.

1209
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: Mike, Oh hey, Ray, And it was just like.

1210
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: That would have been probably you know what I'm saying,

1211
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: that would have been catastrophic, and so like you know

1212
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like little stuff like that.

1213
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: So forgettable.

1214
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: How was he when the cameras went on? What type

1215
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: of person was Mike? Because we know in the cameras

1216
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: the greatest entertainer. I mean, we're never gonna see anything

1217
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: like him because the likelihood of somebody walking on stage

1218
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: and people spending days to see him passing out at

1219
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: his mirror.

1220
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: Fight, having a faint pit.

1221
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, for people that pass out, it's gonna be for

1222
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: the people who pass.

1223
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 5: Out, We're never going to see that again, Ragel I.

1224
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: Got an area for people who pass out. That's pretty crazy.

1225
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 5: What was he like when there was no cameras.

1226
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Around, chill Man, He was super cool.

1227
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: Shout out to Rodney Jerkins again because Rodney's one of

1228
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: the greatest teachers and greatest connectors. And so he hit

1229
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: me and be up at like five am to come

1230
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: to me, Mike, and it was it was deep and

1231
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: were cool after that ever since.

1232
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: But he's super chill, you know, just like anybody else.

1233
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1234
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: You know, you got the world and then you got

1235
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: you and then you have you the character.

1236
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it all, it all, it all goes together.

1237
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: But when Brandy first met Mike, she like fainted. He's like, oh,

1238
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: that's so sweet, Like he didn't help her up.

1239
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: I helped her. But he's probably used to it. It's

1240
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: just like because.

1241
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 4: That's a different level of fame and yeah, I don't know,

1242
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: you mean, you gotta go with you go with Michael,

1243
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's that's he had a different level of faith.

1244
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: It was just a few greats like that.

1245
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: There's a few, but not to not to that level

1246
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: of like older ladies acting like kids at the eye school.

1247
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's out.

1248
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1249
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: When you think about like everybody who's screaming for artists,

1250
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: that's usually like the youth. It was like really grown

1251
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: right big, like people men and women going crazy in

1252
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: every community.

1253
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 4: Ben Staples said, you're one of the top five West

1254
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: Coast hip hop artists of all time.

1255
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 5: Do you agree what he said?

1256
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: I think he was low key capp in a little

1257
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: bit no, he was west. He was putting ten on five.

1258
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to Vince. I think he was just playing man.

1259
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: I look, I don't I don't never again. I never

1260
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: celebrate like me and my team. We've been out here.

1261
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: A lot of my team was from Dallas, from Atlanta

1262
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: and New York, but they've never been to the beach

1263
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: because I don't go out right. So we when we

1264
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: had time for like fifteen minutes, we just drove over

1265
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: to vents and walked around. And I was thinking, like, wow,

1266
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't even walk around and and and show the

1267
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: team like what to do or go to dinner or

1268
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: anything like. We don't celebrate. We get up if we win,

1269
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: we like immediately go back to work. Like there's no party,

1270
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: there's no premiere, there's none of this. So I need

1271
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: to start figuring out. But as far as me and

1272
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: what I've done, I don't.

1273
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like it. I don't like

1274
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: getting credit, and I don't like I don't like.

1275
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: What is it called. I don't like attention like that.

1276
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: I don't like for people to tell me that I

1277
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: did good or I want to like you did that.

1278
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1279
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: I was telling the team today, Like I was just

1280
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: going through my rent in the morning before you prepare

1281
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: for something, so get it all out.

1282
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: Like I ain't did shit. I ain't did nothing yet.

1283
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: I just I've been fucking up and it's been working,

1284
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so yeah, you know

1285
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even trip, you know what I mean.

1286
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: I just when everybody's happy around, if everybody got a

1287
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: room in the hotel, I'm sleep in the car.

1288
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm good with that.

1289
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: Who are your top five West Coast artists?

1290
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: Top five?

1291
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: That's tough, of course, you know, Ice Cube, Snoop, Doctor Trey.

1292
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: It gets tough after that, It gets real tough after that.

1293
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: DJ Quick what I'm saying o F TV.

1294
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: You know there's just like some real you know what

1295
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, MC eight and like motherfuckers like that, you

1296
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I'm way in that zone.

1297
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, rass casts, you know what I'm saying,

1298
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: Like West Coast hip hop art this year, Uh, Cypress Hill,

1299
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: the Dog Pound.

1300
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: Not ten. You know what I'm saying. I could keep

1301
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: going Warren g Nate, dog Reget Laters like.

1302
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of moments

1303
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: in the West Coast and I'm inside I can see

1304
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: it too, and like they're my homies, but they're still

1305
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: they're still getting my playlet above the Rim soundtrack. Fuck it,

1306
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: that's not an artist, but that's that's a heavy playlist.

1307
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 4: Do you think it would be possible for another NWA

1308
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: to happen?

1309
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: N w A, I'm sorry, Eazy E, forgive me easy.

1310
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 5: Is that possible?

1311
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not possible.

1312
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: It's not possible to do Snoop again or the Dog

1313
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: Pound or n w A or none of that.

1314
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:00,479
Speaker 1: Ship.

1315
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: It's just I think it's all time for just big

1316
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: motion picture movies for people to follow, you know. But

1317
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of new artists coming up, you know,

1318
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: that's popping. Like YG has his own moment in his

1319
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: own world inside of the space, and it's just like

1320
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Kendrick Lamar's Kendrick Lamar's iconic. It's it's in

1321
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: a world of like the greatest in this space.

1322
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 6: You know.

1323
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: Well, since you brought Kendrick Lamar, you got Kendrick Lamar

1324
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 4: and Drake Beef, you got Quabo and Chris Brown.

1325
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: That's not that's not Beef. Chris Brown and Kendrick and Drake.

1326
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: You got you got Chris Brown, you got Drake, and

1327
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: you got Kendrick Lamar.

1328
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: And no disrespect to Quabo, but.

1329
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 4: But I just mentioned him for the simple fact that

1330
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 4: said something. He said something back.

1331
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: And he didn't. He didn't.

1332
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't hard like Kendrick and Drake was just going.

1333
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 2: And then Kendrick came out with that bop direct that

1334
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: you know that single. Yeah, that's just single, like for

1335
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: people dancing to it and don't even know it's it's

1336
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 2: to be It's be right.

1337
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: And I love Drake. Drake is my number one artist

1338
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: right now because he helped me.

1339
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: He's simple one wish off the Views album that ship

1340
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: ended up being nominated for a Grammy of the Year

1341
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: the album and Fucked a Run and gave me a nomination.

1342
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: They said that I was nominated two weeks after the Grammys,

1343
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: which I'm cool, and I saw my name that's.

1344
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 1: Just said Willie Norwood as a writer.

1345
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:59,440
Speaker 2: So I'm a Grammy nominated uh writer?

1346
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, sample, I'm the greatest. I mean, I'm a

1347
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: Grammy sample denominator. Whatever I am.

1348
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: They still ain't give me my plaque with the little

1349
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: gold little thing and I supposed to get two free

1350
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: tickets every year, but they ain't called me.

1351
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta figure it out doing nothing. We gotta

1352
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: get up in there.

1353
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 5: Maybe they don't really know what maybe they know ray J.

1354
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: Maybe, But that's what Drake did for me without even knowing.

1355
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 2: So Drake, my boy is just Kendrick just that that right,

1356
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: that overo le going all the way up, Drake. I

1357
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: love you though, you know what I'm saying. And so

1358
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: I think that's perfect. That's what it's about. That's what

1359
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: I think a hip hop beef should be, you know,

1360
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: and and and.

1361
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: Erase the violence. I think.

1362
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 2: I think it's outstanding. I think I think R and

1363
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: B we need to get into that too. Who y'all

1364
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: want a beef with?

1365
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 5: Who y'all want?

1366
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: You want a problem? Bobby Valentino?

1367
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: You whack niggas ain't singing like me? What Trey songs

1368
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: at that nigga don't know how to run? You feel me,

1369
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm the greatest to ever do it. Fool you ready

1370
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: for me?

1371
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: Right? That's you know now that I mean now that

1372
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: I think about it. You and Chris Brown was on

1373
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: the Dish track with against Kanye. Yeah, well he was

1374
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: he was, he was in it.

1375
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: But nobody heard that song because you heard.

1376
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: It because you know me. And Chris is like, that's

1377
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: my brother. You got you go, Chris Brown and Usher.

1378
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: And they're in another.

1379
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: World, right, so they can't be compared to there's not

1380
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: number one or two they're in. They're in the iconic

1381
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: world of all the other greats up there, right, And

1382
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 2: so there they are, you know what I'm saying. But

1383
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: and Kanye as well, and Kanye is my boy. I

1384
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: love Kanye. Now we got a chance to, like, uh,

1385
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: just understand each other and understand the plan and understand

1386
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 2: what can and can't be and what happened and wasn't

1387
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: now and and so you know.

1388
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: We were good. We're good, really good, you know what I.

1389
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: Mean, y'all?

1390
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: At first, I don't I don't think so why just

1391
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,839
Speaker 2: a lot you know, it's a lot of different things happening.

1392
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: And even though we're good now, there still has to

1393
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: be a level of respect from my side, knowing their

1394
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: family and their side.

1395
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: And but that was before him. Yeah, no, No, That's

1396
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: why I'm good over here.

1397
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: I got kids, and I think for the sake of

1398
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: all of our kids in the future of what they're

1399
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: gonna be doing in life.

1400
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: I think positive.

1401
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: I think just being positive about the whole situation and

1402
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 2: every aspect.

1403
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: Is the only way to go.

1404
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: Whether we all never hug and say anything publicly, right,

1405
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: it needs to just be said that with respect. Have

1406
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: to for the kids, man and for and for when

1407
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: we're old and they're they're moving through and running the industry.

1408
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: They all should be able to say what's up and

1409
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: continue to work and do what they do without it

1410
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: being any like friction or fake fake news out there.

1411
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 4: You've been in the studio with a lot, You've been

1412
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 4: in the studio with Lil Wayne, Chris brown Snoop the Game,

1413
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: French Montown, or Tiger, Fat Joe, Lil Kim.

1414
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: I never been with Tiger Tiger. I don't want to be.

1415
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying no, I just haven't see. I tried

1416
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: not to go viral, you wasn't. I just don't want

1417
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: to be in the studio with Tiger.

1418
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't like Tiger's cool. I just did you said Tiger,

1419
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, nah, I had to defend myself.

1420
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: So that did it happened with Tiger?

1421
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1422
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

1423
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe if Chris were I was in there with

1424
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: Chris and Tiger was in there, and probably.

1425
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 4: Come on, Chris, Tiger know what you established that you

1426
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: love Chris.

1427
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't not like Tiger.

1428
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't why you just didn't just like just rock

1429
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 2: with it because I couldn't see.

1430
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: I had to be petty.

1431
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a splash of pettiness inside, like you know

1432
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1433
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: I know, and I try to accepe it, but but

1434
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I just can't.

1435
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 5: Okay, So what happened a can this week?

1436
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: Nothing I've never been on.

1437
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying what it allegedly supposedly. I knew

1438
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: you heard the news that there was Tiger and trave

1439
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah.

1440
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: I seen that. You know what.

1441
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: What's crazy is that when I was watching it, I

1442
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: didn't have my glasses on, so I was like this

1443
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: somewhere like trying to look at who was doing what.

1444
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't see it. I couldn't really see it, you

1445
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I don't know who was what.

1446
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: But I heard that that that it was all false

1447
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: and it was two other people fight. Okay, I don't know.

1448
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: I can live with that, but I you know, I

1449
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: don't really care.

1450
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For for uh, for for

1451
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: that whole situation.

1452
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 5: Okay, so now we're going to it's all love.

1453
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: Tige out of the group, but it's all love, all

1454
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: love from over here.

1455
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, you know what I'm saying. I just got

1456
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: my wall, You got your wall up. It's all good, man.

1457
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 2: Everybody can be peaceful and show love and be respectful

1458
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: when everybody sees each other, and then that's it.

1459
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 4: So it seems appears to me that where you are

1460
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 4: in your life now, that this ray J is a

1461
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 4: lot different than the twenty that the sixteen year old

1462
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 4: ray J, the twenty five year old ray J, even

1463
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 4: the thirty five year old rag J.

1464
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely the thirty five year old ray J was a

1465
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: mess too, and the thirty was. These are good messes though,

1466
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: because every mess led me to make adjustments. I needed

1467
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: the mess every time, and I needed like reality shows

1468
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: in order to watch myself, because it's like watching plays.

1469
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: You can just watch yourself just you know, doing bad

1470
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: or good. Then nobody needs to tell you that you

1471
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: were corny as fuck or weak or whack for what

1472
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: you did. You could just watch it and then it's

1473
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: on you to learn it, make adjustments, continue to be better,

1474
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: and then that's gonna stick with you as you grow. Right,

1475
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 2: but as you grow, it'll soon you know, shave itself off.

1476
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: If you are naturally in your new self.

1477
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 4: If someone would have told you that you behaved in

1478
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,520
Speaker 4: the manner you behaved and you didn't see yourself on television,

1479
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 4: would you have believed them?

1480
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: I probably would have turned up even more.

1481
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: Right away, because you know, you're coming from a place

1482
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: of mostly everybody has this figure in the industry, this

1483
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: big boss that is going to tell you when it

1484
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 2: tone it down, or you get fired or you can't write.

1485
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: I ain't had that. We've been black balled since the beginning.

1486
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: We've been blackballed in this industry since probably the beginning

1487
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,440
Speaker 2: of it all. And and still have these certain elements

1488
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: of of a of a disconnection, right, I wouldn't call

1489
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: it a black ball. I would call my balls black

1490
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I wouldn't call it a black ball,

1491
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: just a disconnection. And so you you connect with another

1492
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: source that continues to help you live and and be

1493
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: successful and be financially strong in areas that nobody else

1494
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: can get to. So then you are pretty much unfadable.

1495
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: As long as you respect, love, be humble, be kind,

1496
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: and treat people good, you can't lose.

1497
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 5: What song is ray J most proud of?

1498
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: I hate it first? I'm just like, ray J, why

1499
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: you do this? I was just like you were just know.

1500
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: I know. I'm sorry.

1501
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: Look to everybody watching, I'm not gonna let y'all down, like, no, no, no,

1502
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 2: still think of me as you doubt. Before I said that,

1503
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 2: I was just joking. Everybody got to have a good time, y'all.

1504
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: I had to, but don't don't. We were doing so well,

1505
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: I know, And that's what I'm saying. Like, if I'm

1506
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: hanging out at the house, I'm gonna throw a couple

1507
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: in because we're having a good time, right, I'm gonna

1508
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: throw a couple of jokes in just but it doesn't

1509
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: register like that. I'm actually not cool with I hit

1510
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: it first today, It's not okay. Hitting it last is

1511
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 2: always the best, right, because that's right.

1512
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 5: You want to and the first man to walk on

1513
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 5: the moon, last man walking.

1514
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: You want to be the last man because the last

1515
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 2: man can tell you where we're going in the future.

1516
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 5: No, I was first foot brink there.

1517
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was first Gray, JA were moving off, I'm saying,

1518
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: Neil Armstrong, Yeah, the moon Yeah yeah. So it's like

1519
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: whoever's up there now was building the condos and all

1520
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: kind of ship up there.

1521
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 5: So but I told you it was safe to go

1522
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 5: up there. You didn't know. You wouldn't know that that

1523
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 5: had that not been there.

1524
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: Shout out to Neil Armstrong. Yes, but I've learned now,

1525
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: learning my lesson. Yeah, and the classes that I had

1526
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: to take. Being first is not okay and it's not

1527
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 2: the best for what place to be.

1528
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 5: I thought we were gonna do, we do it. We

1529
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 5: took a break getting there.

1530
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: I said, it's not okay. So being.

1531
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: Later on it's better. And again I meant I didn't

1532
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: mean nothing by it, by that joke. It was really

1533
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 2: not really it was distasteful and it was disgraceful, and

1534
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: I want to apologize.

1535
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 3: I do.

1536
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: And so my favorite song for me, how dare I?

1537
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: I mean, fuck, it was just gone one win.

1538
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: He's been doing this the whole time back there. I've

1539
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: been just killing it. Yes, I'm sorry, that's just one.

1540
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: No more one wish Wait a minute, sexy can I

1541
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: and you already mentioned the other one?

1542
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: But was it in the list. I knew you was

1543
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna do that, I was gonna say that I was

1544
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: going to just leave it off. I'm sorry.

1545
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 5: I'm sorry to.

1546
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: All your fans who everybody that's want My favorite record

1547
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 2: would be Melody and that's not on there. No, But

1548
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: it's about my daughter before she was born and for

1549
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: the four hundred thousand people in the in the world

1550
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 2: that we live in. And I appreciate you guys supporting

1551
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: and buying the album. Radiation, Uh, that's on that album.

1552
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 2: And one Wish of course, is like my most profitable song.

1553
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: Like it's a serious asset for me at this moment

1554
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: right now today. I mean it's the video from the

1555
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: billions of streams on TikTok to the millions of streams,

1556
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: the billions of streams on Pandora and the Spotify streams.

1557
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 2: Just it's a layer from title, all of it. And

1558
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: you know, when you really own your songs, yes, you

1559
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: can really like watch the success of it. A lot

1560
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: of artists, which is no problem. They are independent now,

1561
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: but the records that are big belong to so Maney,

1562
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: so of course.

1563
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: You independent with me now.

1564
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: But what about then, because that's you know, that's where

1565
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: the real assets come in, and so I want to

1566
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: thank everybody for supporting one wish.

1567
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: I got a new Radiation classic remake album.

1568
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 2: It's like anniversary album on a new one wish for

1569
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: the classic just Anniversary project. I got Jah Quez, Tamar

1570
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: Braxon on the song. We got Neo on the project

1571
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 2: on What I Need. We got Keisha Call on a

1572
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: song called Hurt You. Brandy's on the project. DJ Camper's

1573
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: on the project. It's a really good R and B

1574
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: project that I think people will appreciate along with this

1575
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: like disgusting mixtape that I'm gonna put out at the

1576
01:20:59,240 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: same time.

1577
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 5: Is it true that Shaq invested in your music career?

1578
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave us I think one point five million

1579
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: for Sexy cannert. Wow.

1580
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 2: He gave us one point five for the Sexy Cannon project,

1581
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 2: which was all I Feel project, and Sexy can I

1582
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: was the record to lead off.

1583
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: It sold eight million copies.

1584
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: We recouped the number back for Shaq and I don't

1585
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: know five months, six months and everything else has been

1586
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: profitable since.

1587
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 1: So shout out to Shaq. Thank you.

1588
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: If you look at the Sexy Cano video, you see

1589
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: Shaq in the video right he's the one with the camera.

1590
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: He's going around.

1591
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying, you know, let me do things

1592
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: from the front and then a little bit of let

1593
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: me have a little bit of time on the back end.

1594
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: And then and he actually got the camera and did

1595
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: the rest in Sexy Cannon.

1596
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 4: How did you convince that Shaq is a bear shoe

1597
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 4: business man? He owns a lot of issue.

1598
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how did you.

1599
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 4: How did you convince him? Like, bro, this is a

1600
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 4: great a this is what I need. I'm gonna get

1601
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 4: you your money back, but this is gonna be a

1602
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 4: big project.

1603
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 5: How do you go?

1604
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 4: How does ray J pitch Shaq not Shack the shack,

1605
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 4: Shack the businessman.

1606
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: Well, you you know, and with Shaq, you know, you

1607
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: always have really smart people around you. So money Mark,

1608
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: who is Shack's partnering this deal. He's the one that

1609
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: told Shaq about this. And this was actually the first

1610
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: deal for Whack one hundred to ever even be in

1611
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: the game, So this was his first introduction into the

1612
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 2: game as well. From my end, and so money Mark,

1613
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: Whack one hundred, we had another partner and then Shaq,

1614
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: and it was a hell of a deal. And I'm

1615
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: again anytime I ever do deals like I didn't take

1616
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: the money from from Shack. You know, the team did,

1617
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: and they were able to make it work and structure

1618
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: it properly, and then it was a success and he

1619
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: made his money back and he's still making money from it,

1620
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: or somebody from the team, because I know I'm still eating.

1621
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, so shout out to Shack, Shout out.

1622
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 5: To money Mark Right, what made you go independent with

1623
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 5: your music?

1624
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: I had to Nobody was fuggling with me. I was

1625
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: after wait a minute, there was another record. It was

1626
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: It was called Formal Inviting. So after Atlantic was wrong,

1627
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: they put a lot of money behind the second single,

1628
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: but again for real had the vision for out the Ghetto.

1629
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 2: That's what we That's where it all should have shifted.

1630
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: It didn't, So it didn't. It didn't register the same

1631
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: way Wait a minute did and then I and I

1632
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: was done.

1633
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: They were done with me.

1634
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 4: So what do you learn because you've been in this

1635
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 4: this business for such a long time, what do you

1636
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 4: know now that you wish you would have known then?

1637
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 2: The only thing that I would have wanted to know

1638
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:08,919
Speaker 2: then that singing like R and B songs and expressing

1639
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: yourself musically and vocally, especially when you know how it's

1640
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: always the right thing to do. All of your homies,

1641
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: all of your friends, all of the girls you want

1642
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 2: to be with, all of the rappers you want to

1643
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: think is cool, they're all gonna embrace you when you

1644
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: put out great records, especially musically and vocally.

1645
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: Look at Chris Brown.

1646
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: Chris Brown is one of the edgiest artists out, but

1647
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 2: he still delivers great R and B or great pop music.

1648
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: Along with the disc song with Quebo Cuebo. You could

1649
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: be mad at me all you want, bro, and I

1650
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: still got love.

1651
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: But Chris he.

1652
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: He, whoever was on the song, just he murdered the track,

1653
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: rapped it right, And so you have a chance to

1654
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 2: be that. But you also have a chance to be

1655
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: great and dance and seeing you know, pop music and

1656
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 2: R and B music. So that's the that's that's the

1657
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: only thing that I would want to revisit in the

1658
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: past and not try to be so cool.

1659
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 4: Have there anyone that you could have signed you didn't sign,

1660
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 4: that you wish you would have signed.

1661
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: There's people that I wish I didn't sign.

1662
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 2: There's people that I wish I didn't sign, because again,

1663
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: there's a lot of behind the scenes that were a

1664
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: part of in big producers and certain artists in certain moments,

1665
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: and certain people have taken those moments and gotten really

1666
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: rich and then became animals in this game, uncontrollable and

1667
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 2: really just bad people.

1668
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1669
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: A couple and others flourished into being great.

1670
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: Right, there's a couple that have become like really bandits

1671
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: in the game, and I think the game could have

1672
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: done without as far as their aggression and just their unprofessionalism.

1673
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: And so there's a few people that I put on

1674
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: that lost it because again, everybody makes money. You get

1675
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: a year or two to be cocky and make mistakes

1676
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: and go fuck. I didn't mean to be like that.

1677
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: All these people I thought was cool. Fuck these people

1678
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: now I know that, I know who I am. Get

1679
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: You got to give people a little bit of leg

1680
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: room to make a mistake or two three, then that's it.

1681
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: And so that's how I feel about it. But yeah,

1682
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 2: I lost my train of thought with the fires like

1683
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 2: I like it though, that's I'm not hot anymore.

1684
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 4: What happened to your your RSVP group? You Sam a

1685
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 4: pleasure p Bobby Valentino.

1686
01:26:54,600 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 2: I had so many Dreams for Us, Dreams, Pleasure, Pe,

1687
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: Bobby Valentino, Sammy, all of us on that versus. That

1688
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: was the highest versus ever, but they won't credit us

1689
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 2: because of.

1690
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: How disastrous it was. And I don't doubt them for that.

1691
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: But I think with the group, it is just again,

1692
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: I watched that movie what was it the Five heart

1693
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: Beats and the nigga came in with the Rose Race,

1694
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: and shit, yo, you talk about four of those guys,

1695
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: not me, because I'm just like, I'm just having a

1696
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: good time watching everybody beat R and B. Because when

1697
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: you are R and B nigga, you smooth and you

1698
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: you know, you like you really, you know what I'm saying,

1699
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: You for the like you really for the ladies. I

1700
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: was having a good time, but I think we just

1701
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: got caught up in the moment and nobody was leading.

1702
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: But I think we can try it again with this

1703
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: new project Bobby Valentino and I outside of the group,

1704
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 2: which we could still say is R s v P.

1705
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 2: But they wasn't there. So me and Bobby Valentino we

1706
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: got a great song. It's called Titty for Me. It's

1707
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: a really good song.

1708
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Titty for Me.

1709
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 5: You couldn't come up with another title.

1710
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: Huh, well because that well, because that that's never been like,

1711
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, I want to be original every time.

1712
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,839
Speaker 5: So that titty can you can you be too original?

1713
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? That titty for me? And you go that titty

1714
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: for me, that titty for me, for me, for me,

1715
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: for me, that titty for me.

1716
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: It's a really good tune. And in its argument, the

1717
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: clean version is she's pretty for me, She's pretty to me.

1718
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 2: She's pretty to me, you know. So that's there as well.

1719
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 2: There's a there's a there's a kind side along with

1720
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: the list. I just like Beyonce's country version. She got

1721
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: one that's nice. My kids was going crazy over that,

1722
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: that version in the pool and then and then Prinsident's

1723
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 2: played me this song later, I'm like, oh right, so

1724
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 2: there's a there's there's a yang to every yang.

1725
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1726
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 4: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1727
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 4: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1728
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,560
Speaker 4: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1729
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 4: simply go back to Club Shay profile and I'll see

1730
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 4: you there.