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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, brother, all right, the real thing everyone wants

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Speaker 2: to talk about is not our podcast numerations, but the

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Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets have won their first ever NBA championship on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Not the most entertaining finals in the world, fellas, but

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Speaker 2: very very exciting run for these Nuggets. What was your

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Speaker 2: what was your takeaway of what they did on the

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Speaker 1: This was just one of the more dominant postseason runs

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Speaker 1: But after like the first two games of that Phoenix

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Speaker 1: I was like, bro, no one's stopping these dudes, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: it was just a postseason where you know, they didn't

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Speaker 1: It was just a really dominant run sixteen to four.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at the talent they went through.

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Speaker 1: was just dominance, just pure dominance on display. Someone hit

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Speaker 1: me with the Homie stat Center on Twitter, saying that

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets had an average margin of victor of

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Speaker 1: three point three points per game, you know, during the

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Speaker 1: Right, So this was the team that was the That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: This is a team that was the best regular season team,

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Speaker 3: I mean, for me, you talk about like you're not

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Speaker 3: watching how they approach basketball. It was great as a

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Speaker 3: want the Lakers back and all that shit. Bro I

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Speaker 3: But like it was really good basketball, at least from

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Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't say I definitely think it was

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I liked was entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we were all in the same page going

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Speaker 2: into the conference finals, like, yeah, the Eastern Conference Finals

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Speaker 4: Hopefully the Lakers can win a game or two, which

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Speaker 2: Like it was enjoyable watching some of the again, it

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Speaker 2: it coming into the finals, I mean, I had Nuggets

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Speaker 2: have loved to have seen the finals where you were, like,

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Speaker 4: But the East has got to step itself up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Celtics have gotta, you know, grow up,

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Speaker 2: more times. Mike cool Ma Malone I think made it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's for sure sustainable. You know, they've got Yolkish,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he had what average, what thirty six against

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Speaker 3: the Lakers? Yeah, you know what I mean, he had Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of him. Nobody in the world is stopping that dude.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he was great. But I mean, I mean

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Speaker 3: they have what MPJ to sign to a long term deal,

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Speaker 3: Mary's not going anywhere. I mean, bro, they had they

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Speaker 3: that core they have is tough enough to compete or

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Speaker 3: as MPJA. Very few teams can say that, You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying so, and they have a serious, serious

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Speaker 3: coach and Michael Lohon. They don't have the issues that

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Speaker 3: other teams have were having a no Mike Malone made

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Speaker 3: flowers giving Michael Michael Malone his flowers as well, you

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Speaker 2: Somebody said they gave Andre Iguodala Finals MVP for doing

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Speaker 2: For sure, Let's talk about what the three of us

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Speaker 1: No, I'm so glad you came around because you did

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Speaker 1: Six ranks, five rings, a lot of people's goats, all

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Speaker 3: He straight up said, you know, it's not It's normal

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Speaker 3: I have literally never like you said, typokes, I have

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Speaker 3: like you're marketing him as like you know, analysts and

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Speaker 4: I want to go home guy, I need to go home, guy.

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Speaker 3: Bro, there is Nevor. The only time I am not

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying? And fact that. It is the it

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Speaker 4: I'm making most decisions.

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Speaker 3: Thinking before I leave the home. I think when am

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm told you, Bro, if he was a black player,

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Speaker 3: I'd have a fucking there'd be a corner of my

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Speaker 4: Like dog that is, Bro.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen anything more relatable from an athlete ever

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Speaker 3: period than I need to go home after winning the championship, Bro,

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Speaker 3: And like talking about a parade.

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Speaker 3: I got a horse race race again too. You know

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, What the fuck are you

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Like, give me the private player. I'll fly here and

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Speaker 3: fly back. I'm not chilling in here here no more.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I love that, Bro.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite players players in the league

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Speaker 3: Like I told you, watching him during this playoffs, I

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Speaker 3: ball he's I mean, just a great player to watch

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: These in international players taking it over, Bro, just in

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't want.

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Speaker 3: You up there, just you know, saying coach speaker, just

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Speaker 3: based upon the consequence the base one, like the the

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Speaker 3: how respect the fuck out of that, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. So I'm not gonna shoot on what he said,

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Speaker 3: but I love even so even in disagreement. If you're

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Speaker 3: who am I to say how you should feel about that.

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Speaker 3: I'm a regular ass nigga. Bro, I'm talking about you

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Speaker 3: love to see that, Bro. But that that that touched

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Speaker 3: fuck you know, like literal, I became a hard eye

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I couldn't agree more with everything

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Speaker 2: you guys just said. We need the We need the

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Speaker 2: Yoka's Finals next year in the in the worst way.

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Speaker 4: Need it in the worst.

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Speaker 3: We've been saying that since we I think we saw

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Speaker 3: like the legers a getting cooked. It was like, Bro,

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Speaker 3: you know I'm watching bron as A. I'm just glad

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Speaker 3: you're still playing, my boy. Drop some numbers, stretch out

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Speaker 3: those stress out those points, and you know.

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Speaker 2: I'll be emotional if I get to see you play

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Speaker 2: with Yeah, watch you as I'll try to watch you

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Speaker 2: as much as I can. But what we what I

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Speaker 2: need to see is Joker and Yannis going back and

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Speaker 2: forth in the finals. I need, I need a trilogy, baby,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Maybe make it four. I

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Speaker 2: don't you know, Hey, I'll sign up for it.

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Speaker 3: How many guys and I love to watch play basketball

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Speaker 3: and I love them as humans as well.

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Speaker 2: How many Scott Fosters does it take to get those

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Get let's clone that, nigga, Bro, you because you turn

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Speaker 2: you turn my interests up on that mid season tournament

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Speaker 2: to one hundred. If if we end up with those

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Speaker 4: Put him in the summer league, bro, like whatever.

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Speaker 3: Got to see it, bro, And I think we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get it. I think we're gonna get it. I think

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Speaker 4: Know the other thing.

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Speaker 2: And I just wanted to highlight this before we you know,

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Speaker 2: an athlete. But you know, Joe Murray, I think really

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00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 2: needs like you have to really appre she ate what

436
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 2: he went through with the A C. L tear and

437
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 2: you know that the emotional moment we've talked about in

438
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 2: the pod before of him asking Michael Malone.

439
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 3: Are you like, are you going to trade me? Am

440
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 3: I a broken part to you?

441
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, are you getting rid

442
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 4: of me?

443
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: And for the you know you talked about authenticity with

444
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,239
Speaker 2: with Joker, that's authenticity for Michael Malone because he said no,

445
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 2: he said you're ours, I think is what he said.

446
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 2: A little you know, hand behind the ear there, but yeah, yeah, no, no,

447
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 2: I like it.

448
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 3: But he spoke to he spoke about something similar that

449
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 3: we were talking about making players feel loved. We realized

450
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 3: that was important so you can really coach. They ass

451
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 3: up and in the difficult times and bro, that's how

452
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 3: you feel love. No, not not just saying no, we're

453
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 3: not going to trade you. No, you ares I mean,

454
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 3: that's probably min a certain but a started way to murray.

455
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: The authenticity of saying that and meaning it though. You know,

456
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 2: the thing to me that that you know, the Nuggets

457
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: went against type here. I mean, if you look at

458
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 2: how they acquire the players that they have them, where

459
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: they were drafted. What's the list on finals MVPs drafted

460
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 2: below Jokic where Yokis was drafted, It's probably not many

461
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 2: of them. So like you have to really respect the

462
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: way they built the whole team. But also, like you know,

463
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: they miked up they miked up Joel Murray and he

464
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: was so emotional after the game. It was like I

465
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 2: that one hit me, Bro, that like I was injured

466
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 2: and people don't understand like you hear acl tare now

467
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: it's just such like a regular thing and you know

468
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 2: that the recoveries happen faster and faster. But like guys

469
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: who are in the situation he was in, He's sitting

470
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 2: there going like, this is one hundred million dollar injury

471
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 2: to me if this does not go the right way,

472
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it is really like

473
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 2: existential and the fact that the team not only like

474
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: did right by him, but like like you said, I'm

475
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 2: like emotionally supported him through that and then are able

476
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: to celebrate a championship.

477
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 3: With that guy Like beautiful, Bro.

478
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 4: That's you know that's what this ship is about. Bro.

479
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: They talk about efficiency whatever else, But those stories to

480
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 2: me are what make following sports fun and interesting. Even

481
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: if it is a team that you know, it's not

482
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: your team, or you follow whatever you have to be,

483
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: you have to love a story like that.

484
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 4: You know, you have to love that shit as sure.

485
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: And they were talking about him like before the playoffs,

486
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 3: getting too close to you know, back to the Jamal

487
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: that we knew he was, you know what I mean,

488
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: in the bubble, and I would say he surpassed that.

489
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 3: He's looked better than I've ever seen him. Thirty six

490
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 3: to get those Lakers is crazy. And I know he

491
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: was extremely good against the Lakers when he played. I

492
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: mean he was every time he touched the ball. I

493
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: was scared in the fucking bubble, you know what I mean.

494
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: But the Jamal that we saw this this past playoffs

495
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: was the best Jamal we've ever seen, I think, and

496
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: I don't think we've and I think he's what he was.

497
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: He twenty five twenty is he is he twenty five

498
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: twenty four or something like that. Anyway, we got it.

499
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: He has a lot of basketball ahead of h Jackson's

500
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: looking at that okay, something like that. But he's twenty

501
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: six at the oldest I would imagine, but he has

502
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: a lot about five yeah, twenty five, so yeah, like

503
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: you know, he has a lot of basketball. We'll probably

504
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 3: see he's not in his physical peak yet, which is

505
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: like around twenty seven.

506
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: So I have a friend who's I have a friend

507
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: who's listening on AMP and just texting me. I said,

508
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 2: Joe Murray, My apologies, Okay, I have a friend named

509
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Joe Murray. I think I've done that with Jamal Murray

510
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: a couple of times.

511
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: I was calling Bruce Brown Bruce Bowen for like three

512
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: episodes of multiple shows, not just this one. Yeah, but yeah.

513
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: It happens, y'all. It's a lot of talking.

514
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: This happens a lot. There's a lot of damn players

515
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: that playing the damn league. Does it sound like a

516
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: lot where you're trying to make the league? Four is

517
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot when you're trying to talk about the league

518
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: for show, right.

519
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: Right right, yeah, right exactly.

520
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: I also wanted to shout out Peyton Watson from the crib.

521
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy for me to see a dude I've known

522
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: since he was in middle school, Uh, holding the Larry

523
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: O'Brien trophy with his whole family. Uh, this is the

524
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: wildest shit ever, bro, And like, I just that's the

525
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: other aspect of sports that I I love. You know,

526
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: he was not a major contributor during the playoffs obviously,

527
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: Like he's very young in his career, but I know

528
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: that kids life story and have been around him for

529
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: a decent chunk of it, and so that championship has

530
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: so much meaning to me.

531
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Speaker 4: And what I love.

532
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: About pro sports is you could say that about every

533
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: single person on that team, every single person on every

534
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: championship team, every person who somehow turned a camp invite

535
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: into a two year career where they made three million

536
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: dollars and you never heard of them, but they changed

537
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: their family's life off it. Likes, that's the part of

538
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: sports I love and always want to try and sort

539
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: of like do our part to highlight. But this crazy bro,

540
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,239
Speaker 2: like he's twenty years old, you know what I mean,

541
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: he seems bought in too. He seems bought into, Like

542
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: the Nuggets and how they approach the game.

543
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 4: He's bought in, and they use him.

544
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: I think they they were. I'm always careful because like

545
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 2: that's not a at this point, I don't cover him.

546
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 4: That's just a personal relationship, not like a relationship, but like.

547
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable saying, like they were on they were

548
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: completely honest with him, and I really respect that because

549
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: I've known a lot of kids who've gone into the

550
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: three major sports leagues and honesty is not the currency

551
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: that those teams operate on her. But they were very

552
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: honest with him up front from from draft night about

553
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: what their plans were for him and how they saw

554
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: it developing, and including winning a championship and him being

555
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: on the roster for the playoffs, and you know, twelve

556
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: months in, they've done everything. You know, they've done right

557
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: by him, They've done everything that they talked about doing.

558
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: And I really really really respect that on a personal level.

559
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with being fans or whatever, but it's

560
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 2: hard for me not to root for franchises like that.

561
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: And that's part of why I brought up the Jamal

562
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Murray thing, Like it's not a lot of organizations out there,

563
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: whether it's sports or just business, that operate like that,

564
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: and it's great to see one succeed, and I think

565
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: everyone needs to tell that story as widely as possible

566
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: to try and kill the rest of the fucking country

567
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: to being better people. If you're a business or a

568
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: team or whatever, like, you can be good still succeed.

569
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: You could be a decent person that still succeed. That's important.

570
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 3: What are the last two dynatis we saw were the Warriors,

571
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: And I mean this looks like the beginning of Dynasty right.

572
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: The Warriors did shit right, honest, you know what I'm saying, Like,

573
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a point where they were trying

574
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: to get rid of Thompson, you know what I'm saying.

575
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: He was like, no, we're gonna We're gonna stick with

576
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 3: you. You feel what I'm saying, like, And then this got

577
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: these guys doing it this way. I think, you know,

578
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said about that where

579
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: you know, people are winning chips, doing things in ways

580
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: that are respectable, you know, I mean, it's not just

581
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: business with them. These are humans that they're dealing with,

582
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: and they're approaching the game. They're approaching shit in that way.

583
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: I love that.

584
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: It's like we discussed last episode, doing shit the right way.

585
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Building a dynasty, biling a championship, it requires patients, like

586
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 1: you know, going back to what you said about you know,

587
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: the Warriors, like when they were trying to get rid

588
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: of Clay Thompson. I don't think I've ever been more

589
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: wrong in my life about how the I thought the

590
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: Wars were dumb as hell for not trading Clay Thompson

591
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: for Kevin Love when when that deal was on the table.

592
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: I thought they were ridiculous for pulling the trugger on

593
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: Matt and I was dumbing.

594
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: But because like I said, they went on to be

595
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: the greatest basketball team I've ever seen in my life

596
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: because they stuck with their guys and they saw things.

597
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: That's one of only three times we've been incorrect in

598
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: our entire lives, Tyler.

599
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 4: One of only three we heard the we heard the play.

600
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: We heard that get Out was a horror movie directed

601
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: by Jordan Peele, and we were like, Jordan Peele from

602
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Key and Peele is doing a horror movie that's gonna

603
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: be stupid. And then we were wrong about Cannae Patten

604
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: And we don't need to elaborate on that any further,

605
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: but all right, the ratings for the NBA Playoffs up dramatically,

606
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: set some records in the earlier rounds.

607
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: Do you care at all?

608
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: And if so, what do you think this says about

609
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: the NBA and where things are right now.

610
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: I do not care.

611
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: I know that there's some people who are just fucking

612
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: ratings armchair lieutenants. Oh, this is terrible for the ratings. Like,

613
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: I've never been that fucking guy. I want to see

614
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: good basketball and to give a fuck who's playing. I was,

615
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, hype as fuck for this Nuggets Miami series.

616
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: But I do think that that the thing to take

617
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: from here is that these were the most watched playoffs

618
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: in five years since twenty eighteen. Right, so you know

619
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, we knew the fucking Warriors were inevitable. We

620
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: knew that that was the Wars invitation. We knew the

621
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Wars were winning it at all. People said super teams

622
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: were bad for the league. People said that, you know,

623
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: predictability is bad for the league. No the fuck it wasn't.

624
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Those playoffs were you know, rady highly as hell. And

625
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: then we come here where people saying, oh, no, you

626
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: need familiar faces late in the playoffs, small market teams

627
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: aren't gonna get it done. And know the fuck you

628
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: know that we had a very highly viewed playoffs with

629
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: that right, with an eight seed, you know, running through

630
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: the East and with you know, a team that never

631
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: won a championship before running through the West. So I mean,

632
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway there is that, you know, the brand

633
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: is strong, Like there is nothing that is bad for

634
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: the league as long as good basketball is being played.

635
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: And it's that simple. That's exactly what I was thinking.

636
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: As long as it's good basketball, we'll watch, you know

637
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: what I mean. And I mean these are two a

638
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: great coach team. I mean, I know they didn't score

639
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: more than other points, but that was not because they

640
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: were making bad decisions or just doing stupid shit. It

641
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: was because that they were playing a great defensive squad

642
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: and the Nuggets, you know what I mean. But yeah, bro,

643
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: like I guess that's what I was saying when I'm

644
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 3: like people were talking about the numbers. I mean, we

645
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: we got I think we got a good mix this playoffs.

646
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: So we got the hits and then we got some

647
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: really good album cuts too, you know what I mean.

648
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Asia, you know what I'm saying,

649
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: where like there's like not a j A you know

650
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: what I mean, the album eight you know, not the country,

651
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: but uh, but you know what I mean, Like you

652
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: know the album where is like you know, there's a

653
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: bunch of like legendary songs. There's some great album cuts

654
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: as well, you know what I'm saying. So that's what

655
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: I felt like this this Playoffs was it was a

656
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: really solid album with some big hits but some but

657
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: it was you could play it all the way through.

658
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, okay the Steely Damn Dropp but yeah, you know

659
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: we for sure I talk with Steely Dan Bro.

660
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: They got you put me, you pull you pull me out.

661
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: I think it was in two thousand and eighteen you

662
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: put me on that Blue Eyes song.

663
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: Bro.

664
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah I've been, I've been. I've been a fan ever,

665
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: Sitch brother, I tell you that.

666
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure I got the hits we got, you know,

667
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Steph first Bron. You know, I think the most watched

668
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: series was Warriors Kings though if I'm not staking, which

669
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: is you know, people were saying, oh, no one cares

670
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: about the Kings, Bro, people care people. Well, like I said,

671
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: as long as it's good basketball. We knew that that

672
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: the Kings were gonna give you know, the Warriors some hell.

673
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: They took them seven like like like I said, all

674
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: it comes down. It was good basketball, bro, if it's

675
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: good basketball where we're tuning in.

676
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, those first two rounds were pretty fun, bro, And

677
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: they were and then and I know those were the

678
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: rounds that kind of set the records along the way.

679
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: For sure, I think I think Lakers Warriors might have

680
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: ended up being more having a higher viewership than Warriors Kings.

681
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but to your point that that just

682
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: showed like that was the mix. You had new faces

683
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: and the Kings and the Nuggets who were draws. And

684
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: then obviously people are still showing up to watch bron

685
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: versus Steph. You know, people are still showing up to watch,

686
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: you know, the kind of more known marquee established names

687
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: the Celtics.

688
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: So I mean that's part of it.

689
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Like there were some people who are like, see, the

690
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: NBA doesn't need you know, Lakers and the Celtics or whatever.

691
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: The Lakers and the Celtics weren't in it up until

692
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: the last series.

693
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: Right, Like that doesn't hurt you in the race, obviously,

694
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: with all due respect, but yeah, I'm with you, guys.

695
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: I guess I would say, I care.

696
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: To it the Lakers weren't in it, Yeah, they were

697
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: just there. They were on the marquee the ship. We

698
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: knew what time it was. You was begging for the

699
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: refs to be the sixth player on the court bro

700
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: and it didn't work, you know, and it points still stands.

701
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: Your points still Yeah.

702
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Speaker 2: we haven't this is just sort of general media talk

736
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about. Let's talk about Shannon sharp is

737
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: leaving Skip bayless, striking out on his own, Tyler, I

738
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: know you're always someone who's very insightful. I feel like

739
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: on sports media, it's like a really interesting situation I

740
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: think for Shannon because you know, he he acknowledged how

741
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: much his profile sort of elevated while he was teamed

742
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: up with Skip and everything. But I think at this point,

743
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: in a weird way, even though Skip Bayless has been

744
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: such a big name for so long, I think you'd

745
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: rather be Shannon Sharp right now in terms of options

746
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 2: on the table and everything else. So what are your

747
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: thoughts about, you know, kind of what he should do

748
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: next or what you would do next in his shoes?

749
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: And then.

750
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of names flying around

751
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: out there about who to team up with Skip Bayless,

752
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: but that's a.

753
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: Like, like you can keep us out of it. I

754
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: guess that's a no thanks from over here, right.

755
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just for sure better to be you know,

756
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: Shanner right now than Skip. Skip's best years behind him.

757
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Shannon's best years are ahead of him.

758
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: He can barely hold his head up on camera.

759
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Bro.

760
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but.

761
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Like bro, like like the glow up that man has had.

762
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I remember when he was a laughing stock when he

763
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: was on CBS Sports Like he was a like every

764
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: Sunday someone pulled up a clip of him, you know,

765
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: commentating and clown him. And now he is just one

766
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: of the most you know, preeminent voices in sports media.

767
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: So so shots to him. There was a clip that

768
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: I saw with with with with one of his advisers

769
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: who was speaking with him and talking about how how

770
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, Shannon knew that he had things that he

771
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: needed to tighten up, you know, to be a good commentator,

772
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: and how he would you know, review film just like

773
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: he used to review like you know, game film when

774
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: he was an NFL player, and how he honed his

775
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: craft that way. So Shannon's putting the work. That payday

776
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be huge. I don't know where it's coming from.

777
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: Maybe ESPN, like if he goes, if he joins S,

778
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: if he joined stephen A.

779
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: Bro That's like like I got the best Uncle we've

780
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: ever seen, bro.

781
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Right, that's like the last Infinity stone in the Uncle

782
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Infinity Gauntler right there, right. But but yeah, yeah, Shannon's

783
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna cash out man, looking forward to it. You know,

784
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: I do think that at the time with him and

785
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: and Skip Rent his course, I think that that blow

786
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: up they had about about Tom Brady, I put your

787
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: classes back on that moment right there.

788
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know how much more tenable.

789
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: This is gonna be? So so shouts and Shannon, I'm

790
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: very much looking forward to to where he winds up next,

791
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: and I know that bag is gonna be hefty.

792
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: Did they say stephen A might? People are saying like

793
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: Steven A is gonna eventually go to Fox. I know

794
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: he still has he still has a crazy g I've

795
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: seen people talking about that.

796
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: But I know he's still look in on the crazy

797
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: at the ESPN, like like five more years or something.

798
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: Maybe he has five more years. I don't know. People,

799
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: I know it's a big I know it's fat as Hill.

800
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: Wasn't my still doing this in five years?

801
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but people, I see people saying that he's

802
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: the Fox. Is his next move him? Anyway, I don't know,

803
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know what the fuck these dudes

804
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: contras art. I'm not looking at you know, like commentators,

805
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: you know, contract situations or whatever like that. I'm not

806
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: that anyway. But uh, I dude, I loved what I

807
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: loved about him, you about him being humble. He knew

808
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: everybody's fucking name when he was when. I don't know

809
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: if y'all saw like him, like, uh, you know the

810
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: speech he gave on camera, Yeah, he knew, he knew

811
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: the security guard's name, he had a relationship with everybody.

812
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you know, and I think

813
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: that's beautiful. He also speaks to the fact that you know,

814
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: he's he of course, he put in the work the

815
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: good old fashioned way, you know what I'm saying, like

816
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: just grinding, you know, he's The way he moves is beautiful.

817
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: But I think he I think one thing that about

818
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: about him is just he's relatable, you know what I mean.

819
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: And that's one thing we talked about with the best

820
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: players in the world where we love and that's one

821
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: thing we like. Dude, we know what Stephen a. We

822
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: country as fuck. We got a country ass, not Stephen,

823
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: but but you know what I'm saying, Shannon, we got

824
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: a country ass, Shannon Sharp, you know what I'm saying.

825
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: And in all of our country ass black families, you

826
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and so like and and also

827
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: he also he's he's he stood up you know what

828
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying the moments that we needed him too as well,

829
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: and spoke on it from personal experience, you know what

830
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean, so and spoke eloquently as well country as

831
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: fuck too. But yeah, man, I just I don't know,

832
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: we all became I think like, you know, we all

833
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: became fansom during this time here, and it was cool

834
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: to see him have I know they had that blow up,

835
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: and I do think they they situation around his course,

836
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: but it's cool to see him have that moment where

837
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: he said, like, Yo, you know, I don't fuck with

838
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: you right now, but what he was saying like we

839
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: might not be you know, this show might be done,

840
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And I don't want to

841
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: be here anymore. But I always appreciate the opportunity you

842
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: gave me. And there's something beautiful in that, you know

843
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, even you know, even when involves that

844
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: fucking trol, you know what I mean, But it was

845
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: And also I think that speaks probably the guy he

846
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: is off camera, because he's playing a role on camera,

847
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Most people I know that

848
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: there spoken with him said he's he's he's They don't

849
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: They didn't feel that same energy when they spoke to

850
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: him in real life. But it was cool to him

851
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: having that moment. Man, I know, I agree.

852
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: I had a lot of respect for the speech that

853
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: he gave, Like you said that, not only in showing

854
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: that the connection that he had with the other people

855
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 2: who and I'm personally I think that's a huge deal.

856
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: You know, it comes it comes through with Shannon, always

857
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: comes through on inside the NBA as well. You could tell,

858
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, I always think you could tell when it's

859
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: like you work for me versus when the on camera

860
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: talent is like I'm part of this and I understand

861
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: how much work.

862
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: If you don't know the jenitor's name, I probably can't

863
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: fuck with you.

864
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: Dog, right if you.

865
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: Got to work at somebody where you you walk past

866
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: that person every day, don't you know, don't call it

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Speaker 3: front lady, front, best lady.

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Speaker 4: Miss.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm probably not gonna fuck

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Speaker 3: with you know what I mean. And it's cool to

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Speaker 3: see people and that are that don't have to move

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Speaker 3: in that way, moving in a very respectable, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, manner.

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Speaker 2: So wouldn't it be funny if I just announced he

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Speaker 2: was the he was gonna be the fourth person on

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Speaker 2: Jenkins And.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the money, We don't have the funds.

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Speaker 4: Brother, Maybe on the next maybe, on the next contract,

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Speaker 4: we'll work on it. All right, Thanks so much. That's

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Speaker 4: the goal.

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Speaker 2: That's the goal, Yeah, Jackson. Thanks thanks for thanks for producing.

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Speaker 3: As always, and we'll see y'all.

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Speaker 2: So u oh, silly Billy episode on Saturday. I think

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Speaker 2: John's gonna go see Spider Verse, so we're gonna we'll

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Speaker 2: talk Spider Verse, we'll talk about Baby Gronk's dad, motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: And then whatever whatever else comes up between now and this.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see y'all on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye bye h