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Speaker 1: welcome to the beck Del Cast. My name's Jamie Loftez.

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Speaker 1: My name's Caitlin Darante, and we're celebrating four years of

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Speaker 1: Uh no, I promise we'll never cover the da Vinci cud.

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Speaker 1: don't watch that one. Maybe don't. Welcome to the back Doelcast.

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Speaker 1: This is a celebration episodes. If it's your first episode,

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Speaker 1: verifying if we have any skills or not. Well, some

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Speaker 1: of the larger culture that you're living inside of. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that the reason that film critics have

426
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Speaker 1: been slow slow to adopt more self reflective ways of

427
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: thinking is because our culture has not been welcoming or

428
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: encouraging of new ways of thinking for since time immemorial.

429
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Speaker 1: I feel like it it definitely not completely but has

430
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Speaker 1: a lot to do with, you know, Western culture in general.

431
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Speaker 1: Like and I also really don't like when people dump

432
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Speaker 1: on independent film critics and creators because it's like I

433
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Speaker 1: feel like that's who's really doing the work and moving

434
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Speaker 1: stuff forward, like it's it's not Roger Ebert, Honey is sorry,

435
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah. Often when we cite writing film criticism

436
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: film reviews on our show, it's almost always from you know,

437
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: indep complications and like feminist blogs and stuff like that

438
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: that are you know, not the most mainstream because reviews

439
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: from the New York Times or from like Roger Eberts

440
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: like Legacy you know, l A Times and all those

441
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, huge newspapers and publications and things like that. Yeah,

442
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: they're still they're doing what they've been doing for decades

443
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: and decades, which is analyzing a film only on the

444
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: merit of its like story and cinematography and like important

445
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: aspects of film, but not at all on like representation

446
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: and inclusion and and it's like really acknowledging saying I mean,

447
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: I think that the way that si Areal describes this

448
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: is really insightful of like calling Birth of a Nation

449
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: a masterpiece despite all the racism, Like you, like, do

450
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Speaker 1: you hear what you're saying when you say that, Like

451
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Speaker 1: whoever the funk said that? Like what the look? Yeah,

452
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: it's it's I feel like for especially for like legacy

453
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: film critics who like it almost seems like they think

454
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Speaker 1: that that is enough. They're like, well, I acknowledge that

455
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Speaker 1: it's racist. I said all the racism, so you know,

456
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Speaker 1: check I mentioned it's racist, and the racism doesn't make

457
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Speaker 1: it bad. It's still a great work of art. And

458
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Speaker 1: first of all, is it it's a fucking three hour

459
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Speaker 1: long piece of shit movie that fucking sent kicked up

460
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Speaker 1: the KKK and the US, so like, we don't yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: I mean, and I think it also has to do

462
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Speaker 1: with the extreme whiteness and you know, siss maleness of

463
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: most of film criticism up until pretty recently. And that's

464
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Speaker 1: not to say that people weren't writing. I mean, that's

465
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: like so much of what we've pulled from over the

466
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Speaker 1: years is from black writers, from indigenous writers, from women

467
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Speaker 1: in from queer people, from people who have been doing

468
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: the writing and the work for a long time. It's

469
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Speaker 1: just I feel like, in terms of being put on

470
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: by like an institution and being like you're our film

471
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: critic now, that is like, first of all, still needs

472
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: a lot more, but um is something that's relatively new,

473
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: and I wanted to just off the top of my

474
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: head shut up. We've had two incredible black film critics

475
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: on the show recently, Ashley Ray and Jordan's Searles. So

476
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 1: they're doing it, but they like, you know, they they

477
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: did a lot of indie writing before, and so it's

478
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: so frustrating. I mean, I think that that's just something

479
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: that even as fans of movies, that's like something that

480
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: we all as a community need to keep pushing for,

481
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: is like more representation in film criticism, because otherwise I

482
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: feel like it's never going to stop this like despite

483
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: all the racism, despite all the sexism, and and then

484
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: being like all right, I'm done, good review five stars,

485
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: like fuck you for sure. I think that also extends

486
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Speaker 1: to what is taught in like film schools, because a

487
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Speaker 1: lot of I imagine a lot of like film critics

488
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Speaker 1: did something to study like you know, film theory or

489
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Speaker 1: film criticism or you know, film studies in you know,

490
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Speaker 1: some form of higher education. And so much as someone

491
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Speaker 1: who's taken many classes like that in my various degrees

492
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: that I that I would never talk about. Of course,

493
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Speaker 1: there's been very very little discussion about representation or if

494
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: it was it was like a specific class if you

495
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: wanted to like learn about like feminism and movies. You'd

496
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Speaker 1: have to like take a specific class, and it was

497
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: always like a an elective that wasn't a required part

498
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Speaker 1: of the curriculum. And and so it's just not prioritized

499
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Speaker 1: in in schools, or at least it wasn't when I was,

500
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Speaker 1: it was taking classes at university. And I hope, yeah,

501
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: and even when I feel like, even sometimes when you

502
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: do get to address stuff, it's still in a very

503
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Speaker 1: I didn't know, just a very academic, whitewashed way where

504
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: even like I remember in like one of my film

505
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Speaker 1: classes there it was like and this is like it's

506
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Speaker 1: woman Day in film history class, and here's all the

507
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: women who have done stuff, and it was like a

508
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: list of like five white women. And then we never

509
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: talked about any women ever again. And then we talked

510
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: about Woody Allen for five years. Like it's like why, why, why,

511
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: why why? We really need to get them out of

512
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Speaker 1: the classroom. Mom sick of it. So yes, Si Aio,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for that really thoughtful question, and

514
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Speaker 1: that's a discussion we hope to continue. Yes, indeed, let's

515
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Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back with

516
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Speaker 1: more questions. Uh. Next question comes from Jerome asks. I

517
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Speaker 1: just wanted to ask specifically about the changes you've made

518
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Speaker 1: since June and the two incredibly self reflective episodes you posted.

519
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you went back to those challenging questions

520
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: you were asking yourselves in June and how you feel

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Speaker 1: you are going on the journey of addressing them. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your question. That that's a great that's a

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Speaker 1: great question. I think. First of all, I mean that's

524
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: it's not really a question for us to answer, per se.

525
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't really say how we're doing. That's

526
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: really up to our Black, Brown and Indigenous listeners, So

527
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: that's not really our call to make. But in terms

528
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: of what we have been trying to do and the

529
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: track that we've been trying to get onto and the

530
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Speaker 1: priority switch, I think we've made some progress. I think

531
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Speaker 1: we definitely we could always be doing more, but I

532
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Speaker 1: think we've I think we've made progress. I'm I'm like

533
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Speaker 1: we're on the right track. I feel yeah, I I

534
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm of the mind that like we could always be

535
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: doing better. There's always more to learn, There's there's always

536
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: something new to address, there's something that we've overlooked in

537
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: the past that we should like be careful to address

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Speaker 1: moving forward. There's mistakes we've made in the best, So

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Speaker 1: yeahs as far as like our progress goes, since like

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Speaker 1: those few episodes that are being referenced that we released

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Speaker 1: in June, which which was released um around the height

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Speaker 1: of the Black Lives Matter protests, and we I mean basically,

543
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Speaker 1: I mean, if if you didn't listen to those episodes,

544
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: that's totally fine. But what what it boiled down to

545
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: it as far as our show goes at least, was

546
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: that I feel like, I mean, for for I don't

547
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: want to speak for you, Caitlin, but I I feel

548
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Speaker 1: like I had a reckoning with how few black movies

549
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: and by extension, how a few non white movies we

550
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: had covered on the show, and how that was kind

551
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: of that had to do with a fundamental flaw in

552
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: the premise of our show, which was that we were

553
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: going on this very vague, you know, qualifier of quote

554
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: unquote influential movie without taking into account movies that are

555
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: not given the priority, the budget, the marketing, that are

556
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: amazing movies that people should be watching, and also the

557
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: fact that we're filtering it through our white experience, and

558
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: the result of that was that we were watching mainly

559
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Speaker 1: movies directed by white people, like by a huge margin,

560
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Speaker 1: and seeing that laid out was really like a fuck

561
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: moment for me, of like, well, if this is what

562
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: we're doing, then the premises flawed and we need to

563
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: like you know, grow the show to not just be

564
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: covering you know, white movie like. So that that was

565
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Speaker 1: what as far as our show goes, that really stuck

566
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Speaker 1: with me, of like, we need to not just be

567
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: covering and this is kind of like referencing our episode

568
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Speaker 1: with Kidneys, but not just movies by black directors, round directors,

569
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Speaker 1: indigenous directors, but like movies about black joy and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean just covering a wide variety of movies,

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Speaker 1: not just rehashing the same two thousands shitty white rom

572
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: call movie premise that we've talked about a million times,

573
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: which can be fun, and like we're not saying that

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Speaker 1: like that, you know, that's a part of our whatever

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Speaker 1: what fucked us in the head, So it's worth discussing.

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Speaker 1: But but but it can't just be that that's a

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00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: fruitless exercise. After a while, we need to be you know,

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00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: introducing our audience to movies and just like learning more

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: ourselves for sure. Someone tweeted at us just say a day,

580
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: asking like can you cover more Latin X movies and

581
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: have more Latin X guests on and I was like, shit, yeah,

582
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: we've covered only a few and we should and will

583
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: do more for sure. Yes. So um, like I said,

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: there's there's always more to learn. There's always room for improvement,

585
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: and that is a large a large part of why

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00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: we encourage engagement from our listeners to like, let us know,

587
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: suggestions for movies to cover, for guests to have on

588
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: the show, articles, we should read, books, we should read

589
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: um even though we are famously and the book just

590
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: d but uh, yeah, it's always open feedback with us.

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00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: It's always been like that, it always will be like that.

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Speaker 1: And then when this episode comes up, we're all will

593
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: also um repost our request for him and um we

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: would love more requests, UM for movies that are not

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00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: made by white people that you would like to see

596
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: spotlighted on the show. That would be that would be amazing.

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: We always want to you know, give you know, on

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: on top of um talking about amazing movies, we want

599
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: to talk about movies that you want to talk about

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00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: with us, and so you know, we'll always be in

601
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: conversation with you, and we're we're committed to continuing to

602
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: to learn and and do better. Yeah, we're we're always

603
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: looking to enlighten ourselves and learn more and be as

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Speaker 1: inclusive as possible. So so thank you for that question.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jerome. Our next question comes from Alana. Who

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Speaker 1: would you cast as yourself in the movies about your life?

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Speaker 1: And who would you cast for the other person if

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00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: it's different. Uh, well, the question answers itself. I want

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Speaker 1: Alfred Billina to play me from the moment I'm born,

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Speaker 1: because in parentheses at the end of this question is

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Speaker 1: is it all Alfred Maline? And of course the answer

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Speaker 1: to that is yes, I think that. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: movie of my life would start with my mom's C

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Speaker 1: section and and and then it's Alfred Billina currently so

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00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: she's so holding him in her arms, but it's like

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Speaker 1: a sixty year old man. Wait, pitch, okay, it's it's

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00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: Alfred Molina as the surgeon performing the c section. It's

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Alfred Molina as your mother, Alfred Molina as you the baby. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is my princess switch, this is my norbit this is

620
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Speaker 1: my any of the one person plays everybody, that's what

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Speaker 1: I want off for Malina to play Caitlin as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What what would what would be

623
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Speaker 1: your picks? I'm curious. Um. For some for some reason,

624
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: my mind went directly to Winona Ryder. That's yeah, that

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00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: would rock for my For me, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously I agree that from Lena should play

627
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Speaker 1: you and everyone you know in the movie about your life.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't even have a different answer for that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So thank you Alana for that question. Next question comes

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Speaker 1: from Donna asks what are some ways that one can

631
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Speaker 1: be involved in film discourse? I love these types of

632
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Speaker 1: conversations and find myself wanting to talk with you both

633
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: on so many topics, but lessa you cannot hear me

634
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: through the headphones frownie face emoji. I don't have any

635
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: friends who are very interested in this, and also do

636
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: not want to code to art school again. I would

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Speaker 1: love a community where I can talk about these topics more.

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Speaker 1: I find it very important in stimulating listening to your

639
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: podcast help me realize just how deeply these tropes impacted me,

640
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: the magnitude of their effect is wild and then they

641
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: say thank you and thank you Donna for this question

642
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: and for your kind words. This is a tricky Okay,

643
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: so this is a tricky question. I feel like because

644
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: the answer to your question is the Internet, but that

645
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: is very fraught because there are so many toxic I mean,

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00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: there are places I would say, you know, unless you

647
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: know of a Reddit board that is safe, uh, to

648
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: avoid their I mean, I feel like that there are

649
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: conversations about film discourse going on everywhere. It's just a

650
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: matter I think of finding a space that is going

651
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: to discuss film in a way that is open to intersectionality.

652
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't even need to be strictly about intersectionality, but

653
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: has to be like involved in the conversation. I think.

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00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: I think the closest I could come to with a

655
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: recommendation here. And I would also be curious for listeners

656
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: to pass along communities that you you like to participate in.

657
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: But I feel like letterboxed is potentially a good a

658
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: good place to go to find a I've found the

659
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: letter boxing community to be generally very like cool and

660
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: open to discussion, and yeah, it seems like kind of

661
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: a beautiful corner of the Internet at the time of

662
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: this recording, right, it could all go tit's up when

663
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: we least expect it. But um, yeah, that's a that's

664
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: a great suggestion. Um well, obviously this isn't a viable

665
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: option right now. But we've had listeners reach out to

666
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: us and say that they have like kind of put

667
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: out feelers just like in whatever city they lived. I

668
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: think there was one in London. I think there's ones

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00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: in other cities where people have just been like, hey,

670
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of this podcast. Anyone else out there

671
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: want to like get together and have kind of like

672
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: we almost like a book club. But for spectel Cast listeners,

673
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: obviously with this pandemic, that is is not an option.

674
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: But if there's some kind of like I don't know,

675
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: our chat room, that's still a thing. I'm kidding, But

676
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: I do think, I h I think that fully we can.

677
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing that like I love I

678
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: love when uh, like fans of a show, our show

679
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: or any show like organized and like meet each other.

680
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: And that seems like the most organic, cool way to

681
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: do it. But unfortunately, uh, you can't right now. I

682
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, letterbox for now, and then I'm trying

683
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: to think of a way we can help streamline this process.

684
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: I guess we have until there's a vaccine to figure

685
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: it out, but to help our listeners kind of coordinate,

686
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: and a place to find other bectel heads, because I

687
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: like truly the energy at live shows of like fans

688
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: of the show meeting each other, like we have had

689
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: so many I miss live shows so much, like so

690
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: many cases of like people who are like in line

691
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: together or like sat next to each other, or came

692
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: to the show by themselves and then mets like made

693
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: made friends, and like vactel cast shows are great networking tools.

694
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Can't wait to go back to I can't wait to

695
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: go to places we've never been before for shows I

696
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: have such I'm like, God, damn it, we're gonna go

697
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: to Austin. I swear on my We've still never been

698
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: to Chicago to do a live show, which is I

699
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: was like, well, we've been at but yeah, we're still

700
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: going to do Chicago in Chicago, right, But since that's

701
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: not an option at the moment um, Yeah, you know,

702
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: I feel like Letterbox and then also, uh, and I

703
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: don't have enough insight, but I know that there are

704
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: discords that are focused on film, and it's a matter

705
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: of finding kind of the right one for you. I

706
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: was gonna ask, I was like, what is discord? Is

707
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: that a we're old? I just I just started a

708
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: discord for Lolita podcast Subtle Plug, and it has been

709
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: so lovely so far. It's been. Yeah, it's like a

710
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: site where you can like, oh my god, everyone who

711
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: uses discords are rolling their eyes. They're like, who are

712
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: these old women? Um? But you start little different channels

713
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, here's the area where we talk

714
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: about the adaptations, here's the area where we talk about

715
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: the book. Here's an area where we can just talk

716
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: about anything and hang out and chat. And if that

717
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: sounds so useful, that yeah. And it's like the community

718
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: can kind of self regulate. You have, like you get

719
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: a couple of mods in the mix. And it's been

720
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: a very lovely conversation so far. So as of this recording,

721
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, discord rocks cool. Yeah, let's um. I wonder

722
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Speaker 1: if there's already some kind of like pectel cast or

723
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: like just feminist film discourse discord out there. Oh, that'd

724
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: be fun. I would prefer discord to Reddit a million percent.

725
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, Reddit, I can't look at the interface of Reddit.

726
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: It gives me a panic attack. I'm just scared. I'm

727
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: just scared. I just I have PTSD with read it

728
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't want to be on this side.

729
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: Get me out of here. But the betel cast read

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00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: it is lovely. Oh, I can't look at it. I'm afraid,

731
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: just like I can't look at the reviews. But m yeah,

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00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: for any listeners who maybe already like facilitate or moderate

733
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: some kind of or if you're interested in starting up

734
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: one of your own, if there's any sort of group

735
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: out there that is living on the Internet that you'd

736
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: like to share, let us know. Yeah, we'd have We'd

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00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: be happy to spread the word for listeners like Donna

738
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: who are looking for a place to chat. So hell yeah,

739
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: let us know. Wow that I think that that started

740
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: as as being like letterbox seemed cool and ends up

741
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: being like we're going to start a discord. Uh So

742
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: stay tuned. Yes, um. Our next question comes from Courtney.

743
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: The question is when watching non bectel Cast movies, do

744
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: you have a hard time turning off the podcast lens? Oh?

745
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: For me, I honestly, and this might sound weird, but

746
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: I still oftentimes kind of have to actively deliberately switch

747
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: the Bechtel Cast lens on to watch a movie that

748
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: I know that we're not covering for the podcast, so

749
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't even and and and it just might be

750
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: like years of programming of never watching anything through like

751
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: a feminist critical lens before, I still kind of have

752
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: to and definitely like I default to a feminist lens

753
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: more now than I did prior to start starting the podcast.

754
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: But sometimes I'm just like, I just want to watch

755
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: and enjoy a movie without without having to tear it

756
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: to pieces in my brains. So so I like, yeah,

757
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: part of it is watching a movie through the Bechtel

758
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: Cast lens feels kind of like work, since doing this

759
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: podcast is a job of ours, and believe it or not,

760
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't want to work, So I would say

761
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't have that heart of a time switching it.

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00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: What about you, Jamie, how do you um? I feel

763
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: like I it kind of depends for me, it does.

764
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain movies that I sort of

765
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: can when I can foresee that I'm not going to

766
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: really like the movie anyways. I think that I can

767
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: be borderline impossible to watch a movie with because I'm like,

768
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: what the fund is? That? What the fund is? That?

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00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: That's that? That's like I think that when I when

770
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: I go in, I don't know, it's hard for my

771
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: partner to watch movies with me because he's just like, hey,

772
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch this, and I'm like, well, why

773
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: is that like? So it depends if it's unfortunately, I

774
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: think it if I'm rooting for the movie going in

775
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: and like this movie is going to be good, but

776
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't know it. It has been harder for me

777
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: to shut it off, even with movies that I'm like

778
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: wanting to enjoy. Uh, you know it's blessing and a curse.

779
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: And then I think it's sometimes where it's like it's

780
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: harder for me to turn it on for movies that

781
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: I have nostalgia for than movies that I'm watching for

782
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: the first time. So even when it's like a movie

783
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: that I like, um or I'm like hoping that I like,

784
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of go in with a

785
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: default back to cast lens. But it's I I struggle

786
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: more in like the reverse sense of like watching an

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00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: all D com and being like, no, that has to

788
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: be feminist. How can I reverse engineer my brain to

789
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: make it, make it sether like no, JB. It just doesn't. Um.

790
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess I have like a different new movies.

791
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of go in with the

792
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: lens almost almost automatically with some exceptions. But yeah, revisiting

793
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: old movies it's challenge. Thank you Courtney for that question.

794
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Let's take another break and then we will come back

795
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: and answer some more questions and we're back. Our next

796
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: question comes from Lucy, who asks how do you choose

797
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: with films to cover and has this process changed over

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00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: the years as you've covered a lot. This is a

799
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: great question. I think it has changed a little bit

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00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: over the years we started, but I mean it's still

801
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: a combination of a lot of things. There's a real

802
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: there's a real four D game of chess we're playing

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00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: when we choose movies. At times and then other times

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00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: we're like flubber um, But what do you mean? We

805
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: very carefully and meticulously put a lot of work. That

806
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: was a very long math equation. It was a flubber

807
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: like equation that we the formula to flubber led us

808
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: to realizing we needed to cover flubber. We should have

809
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: done this years ago. Um, But I feel like there's

810
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: the factors we consider when choosing a movie is, first

811
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: of all, what's most important is that it's a movie

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00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: that our guest wants to talk about. Second of all, um,

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00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: it's something that there's and we break this real pretty consistently.

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00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: But but is it a movie that there's some listener interested?

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00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: Because we we have Google doc we have for years

816
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: where listeners can make requests for movies, so we, uh,

817
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: we have a list of like, here are most popular

818
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: requests of movies we haven't covered yet, and we'll go

819
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: back to that pretty frequently when we're giving our guests

820
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: like suggestions for potential movies. But the third factor that

821
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: we has has always been true but has not been

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Speaker 1: true enough, which kind of goes back to our conversation

823
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: about um our discussion on how white our movie list

824
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: has been in June, is do we really like is

825
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: it absolutely if it's a white movie like or a

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00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: white directed movie, is it really necessary? Like? So now

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Speaker 1: it's also like, are we covering enough movies that are

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00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: not directed by white guys? Yeah? And that's kind of

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00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: where the change has coming because a lot of the

830
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: movies we've covered historically have been since had white male

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00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: dominated movies either who's making them or who are like

832
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: the character the leading characters. And that is because we

833
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: were kind of focusing on movies that have had a

834
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: huge cultural impact on people, individuals, culture at large, and

835
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: that have like just influenced a lot of just kind

836
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: of like film discourse for for a long time. And

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00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: I think there is value in covering those movies, and

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00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad we did cover a lot of them, just

839
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: because like there are so many of those movies that

840
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: like did really affect people in negative ways and like

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00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: and that I've had to unlearn stuff that they've learned

842
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: from that media that they've consumed. So while I don't

843
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: regret covering some of those movies, I do regret not

844
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: placing enough focus on other types of movies. And that's

845
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: where we've we're switching gears a bit, where we we

846
00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: are prioritizing more directors of color, more queer director's, more

847
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: director short women to broaden our scope and like pay

848
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: tribute to a lot of those movies because a lot

849
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: of them are really cool and really good and and

850
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: they're lesser known, very underrated. Exactly, they're underrated they're lesser known,

851
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: so we're hoping to buy covering them encourage people. A

852
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: great example is when we literally just covered rhymes for

853
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: young Girls. I would hazard a guess that most people

854
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: have never even heard of that movie, let alone seen it.

855
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: But it's a really, really good movie. It's a really important,

856
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: a really powerful movie that I implore everyone to watch

857
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: and to listen to that episode because it's just a

858
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: very important movie that uh needs to be seen. So yeah,

859
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: so that I mean that. Yeah. That also speaks to

860
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of how our show has evolved, where originally we

861
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we're covering popular movies of the past,

862
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: but that inherently aligned itself with covering mostly sis at

863
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: white male movies because is who has been making movies

864
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: on a large scale. And it does kind of get

865
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: a little mired sometimes because if you look at our

866
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: request list, a lot of the movies that are right

867
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: at the top are movies directed by sis at white guys. Um. Yeah,

868
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: the process is definitely changed, and we're just I mean,

869
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: our and our priorities as a show have changed. Um,

870
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: so we want to always be servicing our listeners, but

871
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: we're no longer just the show that dunks on movies

872
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: you've seen before. We also want to direct you too,

873
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: movies and two guests into you know, work that you

874
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: haven't seen but should and deserve a bigger platform, bigger budgets,

875
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So thanks for your question, Lucy. Next

876
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: question comes from Madeline says, some of my favorite queer

877
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: storylines have been called queer baiting, Black Swan and Jennifer's Body.

878
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: I would argue aren't, but for sure, cruel intentions is

879
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: the thing is these movies are how I realized I'm queer.

880
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: Don't you think queer bathing can be good? So I

881
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: guess I'm of many minds about this completely, I mean,

882
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: I think completely valid and also not even uncommon that

883
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: queer baiting scenes are kind of formative experiences. I mean,

884
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: I've I think we've heard about the cruel intentions seen

885
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: specifically excited a lot. I mean, and I also like

886
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: have personal experience too of like, yeah, I don't know,

887
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: queer baiting is harmful in a lot of ways in

888
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: that and we've talked about this in many episodes where

889
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: it perpetuates that you know, queerness is a phase or

890
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: it's a shock tactic. You know, all this stuff we've

891
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: kind of talked about that said, you know it for

892
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: a very very very long time and still now, sometimes

893
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: that was the only way that you would see, you know,

894
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: two women on screen kissing was like it was that.

895
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know, it's like I don't

896
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: know how. I mean, whatever, we we we'd all figure

897
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: it out one way or another. But I think that

898
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: there are like certain queerbating scenes that come to mind

899
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: of like, oh that was something that you were like, oh,

900
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: what's what's what's going on over there? And those experiences

901
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: are obviously super valid and like a lot of us

902
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: have had them, but I think it speaks more to

903
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: like the fact that most of these scenes are directed

904
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: by straight white guys who are framing it in a

905
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: disingenuous way. So it's like, I don't know, yeah, it's

906
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: it's definitely not bad that we've all you know, responded

907
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: to it and that it but I just think that there's, um,

908
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: there are demonstrably better ways. Yeah, for a very long time,

909
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: the only presentation you would see of queerness or like

910
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: by curiosity or something like that would be in queer

911
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: baiting scenes. And like the person who posts this question says,

912
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: scenes like this are how a lot of people discovered

913
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: they are queer, So definitely validity to that. But yeah,

914
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: like like you said, Jamie, it would it would be

915
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: nice if there had been other options for young queer

916
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: people to see that we're like less baity and more

917
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: just straightforward or more like like like baby more great,

918
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: more grady, And yeah, it couldn't have said it better

919
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: myself less baby more grady. Uh. And I think that

920
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: that is again slow progress that's um starting to be

921
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: made now, although where I think a lot of it

922
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: is lacking looking at you, Disney also pay your fucking tag,

923
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: is is in media that is like directed at kids

924
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: like kids. It's I think that some areas are, but

925
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: like Disney is still suppressing queer characters in a way

926
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: that you're like, this is just a youth thing. At

927
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: this point, it no longer even makes fucking financial sense

928
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: to do this, like get over yourself and you know

929
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: it's it's the year. We shouldn't need to have to

930
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: go to queer baiting scenes. Um at this point, I

931
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: don't think there's really in much of an excuse for

932
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: them to still be happening. But that doesn't get rid

933
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: of you know, the experience, the very valid experiences people

934
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: had with queer baiting scenes of the past. I almost like,

935
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: is there I've I know that there's a number of

936
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: video essays on YouTube about the history of queer baiting. Um,

937
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: but I think that, yeah, just like having more queer

938
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: characters who it's like, it just is what it is,

939
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: and having that presented from an early age, it just

940
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, the normalizing effect that pop culture has. It's

941
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: good ship if you use it for good. But yeah,

942
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I I felt, you know,

943
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: the Black Swan scene. You know, it's just you know,

944
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot I do. I do love a good kiss. Uh.

945
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: I wonder too if if queer baiting will kind of

946
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: be a thing of the past now that we have

947
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: seen more normalization and acceptance and more out queer characters

948
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of media, especially media for young people.

949
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about Blockers earlier, which is

950
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: an example off the top of my head of a

951
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: pretty mainstream book Smart that featured a queer teen book Smart.

952
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: Lots of TV TV directed towards teens that features queer characters.

953
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm wondering if that's kind of a thing

954
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: of the past, and again it's it is like a

955
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: part of rectifying that issue is, you know, have having

956
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: more queer directors and people behind the scenes and writers

957
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: in the mix as well. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully we

958
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: sort of answered that question. Thank you for sending it metal, Yes,

959
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: thank you. Next question is from Emily, who asks I'm

960
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: curious about what value, if any, you see in analyzing

961
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: films for not passing the reverse spectral test a k

962
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: A films where no two named men speak to each

963
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: other about anything other than a woman. I'm always delighted

964
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: to realize the film doesn't pass this non existent test

965
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: a k. Bridesmaids, and it seems like such films are

966
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: few and far between. Interesting question. Thank you for sending it. Yes,

967
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it's definitely interesting to discuss it. Just

968
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: like almost happens so infrequently that it's like, yeah, let's

969
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: talk about this where they at Yeah, I mean, it

970
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: mostly happens in movies with predominantly female casts, so like Bridesmaids,

971
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: like was mentioned, and you know, while those movies aren't

972
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: always perfect, they're often like they're usually ripe for the

973
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: types of discussions that we have. And because so many

974
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: movies I mean, he could rattle off hundreds of movies

975
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: that are like a cast of nine percent men and

976
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: one woman is in the entire cast, or maybe if

977
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: you're lucky, there are two women on chances are they

978
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: never are in the same scene together. So tons of

979
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: movies are just all like, are predominantly male casts. But

980
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: it's yeah, far rarer that you would see a movie

981
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: that is mostly women. So yeah, I think there is

982
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: value in shouting out a movie when it does, when

983
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't, when it doesn't pass the reverse bactal tests,

984
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of negatives in there, so I'm

985
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: trying to make sure my brain understands this. But yeah,

986
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: if if no men talk to each other in the movie,

987
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: or if men do talk to each other but it's

988
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: only about women, that means it does not pass the

989
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: reverse Spectel test, was a good thing, or you know

990
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: in theory, my head hurts. Uh yeah, no, I totally

991
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: agree with you. And I also think that speaking to

992
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: like even Emily's question that it's uh like you almost

993
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: manifest it, you will it into existence. If we talk

994
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: more about, well, what isn't this past the reverse Factil test.

995
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: Maybe that's so you know, we we say it enough

996
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: and I feel like this isn't entirely true, and it's not.

997
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: It's probably being mean to us, But I'm like, we've

998
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: spoken a few things into reality, but most of it

999
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: was goofy. We're like, oh, we've spoken. Um. I mean,

1000
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: there's a few things that were that set true. But

1001
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe if we and the grand we as

1002
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: well make more of a show of kind of pointing

1003
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: out like, Wow, isn't this amazing? This movie is so

1004
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: good and men didn't ever have a conversation. Uh, that

1005
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: might encourage you know, more of that. Who knows, I'm

1006
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: overestimating and underestimating our power all at once. Well, if

1007
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: we manifest it enough, we can will it into reality.

1008
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: And that's the secret. That's the secret. That's the secret. Alright,

1009
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: a few more questions. Yes, next one comes from Alicia asks,

1010
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: I love how you both have expanded the lens of

1011
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: the show to include more intersectionality with your more inclusive

1012
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: focus of today. Are there any films covered in earlier

1013
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: episodes that you would rate differently now, or perhaps aspects

1014
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: that you wish you'd brought up. Um, definitely, for sure.

1015
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: That's part of why we're redoing, like those four episodes

1016
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: that we mentioned earlier. UM. Almost every episode we do,

1017
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: people have been like, oh, I love this to discussion.

1018
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: Great episode of brag for us, I was like, where

1019
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: is this going, Colma, But you didn't bring up this

1020
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: or you forgot to mention this or something, you know,

1021
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: And it's sometimes it's just because we ran out of

1022
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: time and we couldn't cover everything. Sometimes it's because you know,

1023
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: we we didn't consider that, um, and we needed you

1024
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: the listeners, to educate us or to bring something up.

1025
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: A few examples off the top of my head, our

1026
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: Mulan episode, people were like, yeah, but you didn't talk

1027
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: about how the male love interest is a bicn you know,

1028
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: because he was attracted to Mulan while she was presenting

1029
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: as a man. Uh. You didn't talk about the queer

1030
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: coding of the villains and birds of prey. You didn't

1031
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: talk about you know, There's so many different things that

1032
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: we examples of, like things we missed or something. So

1033
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: definitely there are a lot of things I would go

1034
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: back and write differently, or things I wish we had

1035
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: uh mentioned or had thought of at the time. UM.

1036
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: But that again is why we we so much appreciate

1037
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: everyone's calm and contributions. Uh, and we encourage you to

1038
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 1: continue to send us those comments with those etcetera. Yeah,

1039
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: I feel uh, I feel similar. I I think that

1040
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: we also, like earlier in the show, especially with early episodes,

1041
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: we kind of we both knew a lot less than

1042
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: we do now, and I think we kind of fell

1043
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: into like the thing bad trap a lot where we

1044
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: would be like, this sucks from the lens of twenty seventeen,

1045
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: and we did not do enough to contextualize like things

1046
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: that we are more mindful of now, like there is

1047
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: a way to contextualize why a movie presented as it

1048
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: did in a very problematic way and be critical of it.

1049
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like we we didn't. I would say,

1050
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: even in our first year or so, we were not

1051
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: like heavy enough on the context and they're just uh

1052
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: not my favorite episodes for the reason. But I think,

1053
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's so much I would do different, especially

1054
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: getting back into like but and and so even though

1055
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm like cringing past us, I also am glad because

1056
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: that means, you know, it would be very weird if

1057
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: we were like no, our tags were perfect and I

1058
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: haven't learned a single thing since and I was correct. Um,

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Speaker 1: so you know, if you don't look under your past, self,

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Speaker 1: your past, trying self with without without a little cringe,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's what's going on? What are you even doing?

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Speaker 1: The past is cringe, the future is cringe. The present

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Speaker 1: also cringe. The present is extremely cringe. Uh so, thank

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Speaker 1: you for that question, Alicia. Next up, we have a

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Speaker 1: question from Tessa. The question is are there any movies

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Speaker 1: you really want to cover but just haven't done yet,

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Speaker 1: either because they're not a priority or because the time

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Speaker 1: hasn't felt right. Uh, yes, I've got some you got

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Speaker 1: wait you have you have like some specifics? Yeah, hit it,

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Speaker 1: hit it, hit it, hit it. Some of them are

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Speaker 1: just because they're like childhood or like adolescent favorites of mine.

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01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: They wouldn't even necessarily make that much sense to cover

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Speaker 1: some of these because I don't know how interesting of

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Speaker 1: a of a discussion they would generate. But um well,

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Speaker 1: actually one of my favorite movies for a while was

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Speaker 1: Since City, and I think it would be an interesting conversation,

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Speaker 1: that would be an interesting there's there's some some ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a conversation to be had. So maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: do that on one of my um as one of

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Speaker 1: my Matreon birthday picks next May. I also I kind

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Speaker 1: of really want to do a Ninja Turtles movie because again,

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Speaker 1: they were pretty big movies of my childhood. There's something

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Speaker 1: I really want to do just because I've been requested

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Speaker 1: a million times, and I do with him as a

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Speaker 1: movie that we just haven't gotten around too yet. For example,

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Speaker 1: Pitch Perfect is one of our top requests. Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't like, oh really, I enjoyed um. Pride and

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Speaker 1: Prejudice is one of our top requests. The Cure Knightly

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Speaker 1: I think two thous five one. Oh yeah, I was there.

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Speaker 1: I was talking with my dad about that movie the

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Speaker 1: other day because there was like my dad, I think

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Speaker 1: my dad maybe noticed a trope in movies that's very specific,

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Speaker 1: but he not to call him up. But he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because my dad. I made my dad because the Pride

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Speaker 1: and Prejudice this story is too long already, but it

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Speaker 1: was like not shown at major theaters, but I really

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Speaker 1: wanted to see it. So my dad like drove forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes to go to this like indie theater and

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Speaker 1: then watched it and was like, oh, this is really long,

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Speaker 1: and he's right, but but he was we were talking. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's because we were talking about The Crown, and my

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Speaker 1: dad was like, why are there often these like young

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Speaker 1: British women in movies who were always like hiding behind

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Speaker 1: something flirtatiously, which I actually think he's onto something there.

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Speaker 1: There's a scene in Pride and Prejudice that he made

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Speaker 1: fun of a lot when we went and I was like, stop,

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Speaker 1: but like it's like Kia Knightley as Elizabeth Bennett, like

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Speaker 1: hiding behind some ribbons and being like ha ha, like

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Speaker 1: you know. And there's a very similar scene in the

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Speaker 1: in the Crown where Princess Diana shows up for the

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Speaker 1: first time and she's like t T I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: these young British actresses do be hiding behind things flirtatiously.

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Speaker 1: What's that all about? What was the question? Again? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but Mike shout out to Michael Loftus for

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Speaker 1: his uh poignant observations. That's my favorite useless movie trope

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Speaker 1: since Leonardo DiCaprio fully closed wet. You're just like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that says anything about our sure, but

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Speaker 1: it definitely seems to be a thing. Well you know what. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: this is another another quick tangent, but you know how

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the breakfast Rube Goldberg Machine trope

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Speaker 1: in um a bunch of movies that we brought up

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01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: on the Flubber episode. I thought of another one. There's

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Speaker 1: so many. It's in the first Paddington movie. There is

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Speaker 1: a marmalade making machine, the Goldberg Machine, and because Paddington

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: eats marmalade for breakfast, it counts as a breakfast machine.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's true something that some things that I've

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: wanted to There's like other childhood favorites that I would

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Speaker 1: like to cover down the line, but it's like they're

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: just not the highest priority things I would generally like

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: to do more or like to like I don't know,

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: we don't really do themes on the main feed. But

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: I love musical movies, so I would love to do

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: and we haven't really done that many that aren't like

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Disney Movie. Sure, So I love musicals. And I also

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Speaker 1: think doing more international movies, which we've been which we've

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01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: been doing more recently. And then I would also love

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Speaker 1: to do like a little just a block of old

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01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: Hollywood movies. We've really only done that once or twice

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: with movies that are older than like forty years old. Yeah. Yeah,

1140
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: I just like getting into like very influential old Hollywood movies.

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: I think would be fun. Yeah. Also, we desperately need

1142
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: to do two separate episodes on Magic Mike and Oh

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01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: Magic Mike double Hustlers. Hustlers, that's like one of my

1144
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: top picks that like it. Just it's truly like the

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: timing just has it. It's been a timing issue. Um,

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01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: but Hustlers, it's going to happen. Magic Mike, It's going

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: to happen. It's just really the question is when, Yes, yeah,

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: and then and then of course anything that Alpha Billina

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01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: wants to cover when he comes back. Yeah, absolutely, and

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: the Holidate No, I'm kidding, let's for time. We didn't

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: see that, but although I so so to round out

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Speaker 1: our question segment, thank you to everyone on the Matreon

1153
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: who sent questions, and if you'd like to join the Matreon,

1154
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: it's a great month to do so, because we are

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: doing our annual Terrible Holiday Movies block, including the three

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Hudgens, Princess Switch, Princess Switch Switched Again, I think

1157
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: is what it's called but really it's called three Vanessa

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: hudgens Is. It's pretty much called three Vanessa hudgens Is.

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: And then we're also doing Christmas Prints too, because we've

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01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 1: already covered one and three, and we are releasing Christmas

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01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: Prints one as a main feed episode to give ourselves

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01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: a little holiday break and just sharing the Christmas cheer

1163
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: that is Christmas Prince. Yes, um, there you're welcome once again.

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Christmas Prince genuinely is is requested? Oh yeah, often,

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01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: we did that, you know, because the masses insisted it's true.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's going on over in the Matreon. Mm hmm.

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: So that was. We have a few more questions, but

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: they're kind of more like fun silly questions, and we

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Speaker 1: thought we'd close out on Before we do that, we

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: had a few very just like very nice comments that

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01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: we wanted to share. We just wanted to share a

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01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: bunch of compliments. Are our listeners being nice to us

1173
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: and and telling us that we we rock rule and rule? Yeah? Yeah,

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean we're we're spreading joy, is what we're doing.

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: And or we're it's spreading joy fending off dread, you know,

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: like it's really all the same act ativity these days.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we wented to laser in and a couple

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: of comments we received to celebrate because we cannot physically

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Speaker 1: see each other. So this first comment comes from Patty.

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: They say, I saw Boss Houmas Girl on an incredibly

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: rainy evening in Edinburgh last year and it was by

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: far the funniest and most interesting performance of the festival

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01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: for me. Oh Jamie Ye, one of the allies. Jamie

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: got on stage, which is a bit you do in

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: the show, was so bumbling that he almost made her

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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: break character several times. It was absolutely glorious and I

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01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: hope she remembers it as fondly as I do. Uh

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: that sounds like that so nice that I think I

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Speaker 1: do remember the experienced Patty is discussing because there were

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Speaker 1: like sub so it's the context for this is I did.

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Speaker 1: I did a show last year at Edinburgh Fringe Festival

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Speaker 1: where I played uh earld Boss Elizabeth Holmes character who

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01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: just was like bad faith feminism. Uh. The show was

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01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: basically what it was, and I would bring people up

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01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: on stage and I would make I would make them

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Speaker 1: name women and then they could never do it. I

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01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: would always bring like men on stage. It's it's one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite bits from your show. Yes, it's always

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Speaker 1: so funny. I think I do remember this night specifically

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: because it was like nights that were rainy were really

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01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: hard because it would be harder to get people to

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: come to the show, and that I was performing in

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: a shipping container, so it would smell really bad when

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: wet people came inside. So I my I have a

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: very sensory memory of this night and that I don't know.

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01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: That's that's so lovely. I miss being able to meet

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Speaker 1: people and do things and be in stinky shipping containers. Friends.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Patty. That was very um that

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Speaker 1: made my day. We also have a really kind comment

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: from Alicia, who says the two of you inspired me

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: to start writing about film again, which I'm so grateful for.

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01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: Somebody actually now pays me hell yeah to to write

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: reviews focusing on diversity, and I wouldn't have known that

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: that was something you could do, let alone, something I

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01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 1: could do if not for the podcast. Thank you for

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: that shout out, Alicia. Holy sh it, that's that's for us.

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: That's like the most gratified feedback we could get. That's like,

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01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: that's the idea and yeah, that's amazing. Congrats, listeners are

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: so cool. That's amazing. It also send us your work.

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: We want to we want to plug it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: to to I guess to all of our listeners, we

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Speaker 1: say versions of this pretty frequently. But if you are

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 1: seeing like there's a perspective you have that is not

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: being discussed, like, go for it, like and let us

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: know what we can do to help kind of get

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Speaker 1: the word out, because it does. I mean, it makes

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Speaker 1: a sucking difference. And so shout out Alicia. That's so cool. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: and this last comment that we wanted to share comes

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Speaker 1: from Maddie says, I just want to say thank you

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01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: so much for this podcast. I was a socially anxious

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01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: kid with big feelings whose only hobby was watching movies.

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: I've realized how dangerous stereotypes and movies are and how

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: I have romanticized toxic behaviors in my relationships because of it.

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01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: Grand gestures that somehow equate to forgiveness slash stalker behavior

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: slash boys will be boys mentality, slash intense fights then

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01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: always making up, slash unnecessary sacrifices slash surprise kisses, etcetera.

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01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: I've been uh, I've been able to re analyze what

1238
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: I really want and what is healthy for me and others.

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01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: A big part of that is because of this podcast.

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01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, yay, thank you, thank you for sharing that.

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01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean just so glad that you've been

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01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: able to unlearn the toxic crap that movies teach us

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01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: that many of us are trying to unlearn and we

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: still are like, it's just uh, yeah, this comment was

1245
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: really cool. Like what we keep trying to talk about

1246
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: is like, what is really helpful and unlearning stuff is

1247
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: like like, once you recognize, oh, this is a toxic

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01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 1: thing I need to unlearn, just start the work, don't wallow.

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: And you're like I can't believe. How could it be.

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: You're like, well it is, so let's do something about it.

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: And that sounds like the approach Maddie is taking. And

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01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: ah nice, so cool, so much. Yeah, and then just

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01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: a few fun questions to close us out. So the

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Speaker 1: first one comes from someone who wanted to be identified

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Speaker 1: as Freddie Molina fan number one. So, Jamie, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if you'll have a response to that. I love this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's something non movie related that you're passionate about. Oh,

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Speaker 1: something that I've I've become very passionate about. Um In

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Speaker 1: the past year and a halfish has been a local

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Speaker 1: politics via a friend of the show, Nitia Rahman. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's like when I'm not when when I'm not poding

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: and goofing around. Yeah, I've gotten really like excited by

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Speaker 1: communities that are like in in l A. It's especially big,

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Speaker 1: I think. But yeah, learning about kind of my community,

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Speaker 1: what direct action stuff is possible to do, and just

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Speaker 1: like I guess most specifically like local journalism and how

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Speaker 1: important it is and how much there is to do,

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Speaker 1: and like what a cool community it is. I like

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Speaker 1: local journalism. Hell yeah, borring answer, No, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Something that I've always been passionate about, the I think

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Speaker 1: is a little known fact about me, is that I

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Speaker 1: love anthropology. I almost minored in it. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: almost majored in it in college before I really knew

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Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. So I had just kind

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Speaker 1: of contemplated making that my career for a while, but

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Speaker 1: ultimately was like, oh, I don't want to get a PhD,

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Speaker 1: so never mind. But um, I only wanted to get

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Speaker 1: a master's in screenwriting. Obviously, and honey, you did and

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Speaker 1: I did it. But I love anthropology. I love reading

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Speaker 1: books about anthropology. I love um just kind of like

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01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 1: human evolution in general, and the way human psychology has evolved,

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01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: human sexuality has evolved or has kind of dictated our

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: human evolution, and just like all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated about that. So, if anyone has

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Speaker 1: any recommendations for anthropology books, I've probably I've read a

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01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: fair number, but I'm always on the lookout for more,

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01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: So hit me up with your Rex. But yeah, I

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: love anthropology. So and if anyone, if anyone knows about

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01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: corruption in the v A in West Los Angeles, hit

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Speaker 1: me up Jamie. Our next fun question comes from Becky.

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01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: It goes a little something like this. Hey, Caitlin and Jamie,

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01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: you've been my running buddies for years. I love the show.

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01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: You're both from the East Coast, but now in l A.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 1: How is that transition for you? Do you miss certain

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01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: aspects of the East? Come visit Pittsburgh when it's safe please? Uh? Okay,

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: we will, yes, fine, And yeah I miss I miss

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01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: the East Coast a lot all the time. H Yeah,

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01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean I do like living in l A. But

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01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: I do miss I do miss the East Coast. I

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01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: miss Massachusetts so much all the time. I missed public

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01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: transportation as being a more accessible and easy thing to

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01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: do than it is in l A. I miss living

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01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: in a walkable city. I miss bike riding around. I

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01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: used to ride my bike to get everywhere when I

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: lived in Boston, and now I'm just scared to ride

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01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 1: my bike anywhere in l As. Oh god, yeah, I

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01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: miss the Fall. I miss my family. I miss yeah,

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: just like yeah, there's there's a lot that I miss.

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: I also just I don't know Massachusetts could be so

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01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: fucked up. But then sometimes just I don't not to

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: go back to local journalism, but sometimes the hyper specific

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: stories you can find in New England truly could happen

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 1: nowhere else and shouldn't happen anywhere else. And by that

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01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: I mean something everyone should go watch is uh YouTube video.

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: It's called Down the Rabbit Hole the per Cat Cafe.

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01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk about love Boocardi Boston.

1317
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm also talking about love boocarti Boston,

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01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: because is where else can you make that film? Don't

1319
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: even try the worst student film of all time. You

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01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. But I also wanted to reference Yeah,

1321
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: YouTube user Frederick Knudson. He doesn't really need are plugging.

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01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: He's a very popular YouTuber, but he makes this um

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01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: series called Down the rabbit Hole where he just will

1324
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: like rehash a scandal that is very specific and very online.

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: And there's one that took place in Boston called the

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01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: per Cat Cafe, where it was a New England mom

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01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: trying to start a cat cafe and she does a

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01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: really bad job and she gets so mad because she's

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01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: from New England. Uh, she just starts cyber bullying people.

1330
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:44,480
Speaker 1: It's the wildest story and it just maybe so homesick

1331
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: because you're like that, what it could only happen with

1332
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: that kind of angry mom that they make in those

1333
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: in that region. I miss it, okay. Next question. Next

1334
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: question comes from Carly asks what would you call an

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01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: all female remake of the movie Flubber flub Her, Fember, Fember.

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01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: I don't think, maybe not fember. So just to be clear,

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: those were the two pitches that Carly shout it out,

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: and also I let yeah, I do love flub her

1339
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: serious answer, it should just be flubber like they it

1340
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: should just be called flubber and then woman is the

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: lead this time. But in terms of what I think

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01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: they might name it, flub her is great. What about

1343
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: this is a non gendered way to do it. I

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01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: flubber right from the perspective of the flubberer. So so

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01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: that would would that mean that um like maybe a

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01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: spooky Halloween version of flubber would be I Flubber flubber Stein,

1347
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: like I I Flubberstein would definitely neally, I think work

1348
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: we should get the I Frankenstein team. We also got

1349
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: a message from a listener the other day that was like,

1350
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm so high, I'm under my Christmas tree and I'm

1351
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: watching I Frankistan and I've never felt so at peace.

1352
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, now this is the impact we've

1353
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: been going for. I. You know what, I don't care

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: what they call it. I just I And I'm sick

1355
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: of I'm sick to death of rebooting old properties. Just

1356
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: I mean whatever we talk about all the time. Just

1357
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: let marginalize people make the movie they want to make.

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01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: Don't make them remake a movie that was made bad

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01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: the first time. What the fun? However, with flabber I

1360
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 1: take an exception. We do need a reboot of Flabber?

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01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: We need we need it, we need it. Yes. Next

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01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: question comes from Maria. Do you believe in astrology? Because y'all,

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01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: being a Taurus and a Leo is t Sorry for

1364
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: the lack of intellectualism, but it really must be addressed. Yeah,

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: I believe in astrology? How dare you? Yeah? Of course,

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01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 1: what kind of question is that? Of course they do?

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: I uh don't. I don't. I don't really even know

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01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: what astrology is. I don't know how it works. I'm

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01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: sure if this is where everyone's sitting at home being

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01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: like taurists. Okay, yeah, I'm too stubborn to believe in

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01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: something like astrology. Um I I well, I okay, I

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01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: did buy some crystals. You did that astrology? That's not astrology,

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01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: but that's definitely you know, in the astrology extended universe,

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: it's yeah, astrology adjacent. Um yeah, I don't participate, but

1375
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: I like when other people tell me, they're like, oh,

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: you're such a Taurists. Therefore x y Z nice to

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01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: feel seen. Yeah, I'm going to be a Leo and

1378
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: just like read out my chart. Okay, so Leo's son,

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01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: which you know I was port August eighteenth, and I'm like,

1380
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel cuspy. But whatever airy is moon Pisces rising? Okay,

1381
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: astrology heads tell me something I don't know because I

1382
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 1: know I know a medium amount. I know, like not

1383
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: a ton. Say, I don't know what any of that means,

1384
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: but I have to pull up my costar app to

1385
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: give that information. There you go, Maria, please advise what

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01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: does happen? Two more things, starting with question from Lindsay asks,

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01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: if you were to focus on the films of Alfred

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01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: Molina four a month, would you call it Molina March

1389
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: or Alfred May Lena Funny? Okay, first of all funny.

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01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 1: Second of all, we would call it Molina March, but

1391
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: it would fall in September. That's the only way to

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01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 1: do it. That's my favorite, maybe one of my favorite

1393
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: running jokes we have is how we just everything in

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01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: the matrion has just insert something March, but it's never

1395
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: in March. It's in our port in the year. It's complicated,

1396
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: but but if you really if you put all the

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01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: strings together on the on the corkboard, it does make sense.

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Speaker 1: And then finally, Caitlin, this one, this one's for you.

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Speaker 1: It comes from Chris Caitlin, have you heard of these

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: anagrams of your name? I trend nautical. I have not

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01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: heard that one Kurt italian end, not that one specifically,

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01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: but I have one similar that has Italian in it,

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01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: and instead of Kurt, it's a much more unpleasant word

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01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: if you change out one. Oh yeah, it's rude Italian bleep. Okay,

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01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: here's the next one, A tinder lunatic. That one, Yes,

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01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: that one was one of the very first ones that

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01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: Zack Sherwin um made from me. So that one does,

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01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: and that you might have even did an illustration for it. Yeah,

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01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: I think I illustrated that. Yeah, because Zack and I

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: went sack and I famously collapsed on your birthday present.

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01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: And then finally, this one is gross tinier anal duct

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01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: I have not I wish I hadn't heard yet one,

1413
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: but that one's my favorite one of these and of

1414
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: maybe all time. That made me feel um unwell, I

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01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: feel great, I feel honestly, I'm like, wow, I haven't

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 1: eaten yet today, and it's honestly it's good. It's tinier.

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01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm like tiny because it implies it was already tiny

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01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: and that there's maybe there's a tiny one, and then

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01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 1: there's the tiniest one. But this is the ace and

1420
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 1: you're just like, it has to get smaller. I don't.

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01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 1: It's so nasty. Okay, thank you for that, Chris. On

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01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: that note, Happy for your anniversary, Caitlin. Happy four years, Jamie,

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01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: I are more years. I loved doing this show with you.

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: I can't wait to do much more. I love you

1425
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: and you're the best. I love you, and yeah, this,

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01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Uh what a joy, What a joy it's it is.

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01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Ed continues to be truly, I swear, it's like so

1428
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 1: nice to like I don't know, you know, sometimes this

1429
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: is like I'm not talking about anybody we know, but

1430
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when you listen to a podcast, you're like,

1431
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to think these two people like each

1432
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: other very much. I just I'm so grateful for your

1433
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: friendship and this show brought us together. Look at us,

1434
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: look at us go and look at us grows here

1435
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: in heaven. Uh well that was our four year anniversary

1436
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: celebration Heaven where Rose doesn't go At the end of Titanic,

1437
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: what if at the very end I tried to That's

1438
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: what if I try to pick a fight at the

1439
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: very end. But yeah, they were like, actually the show's canceled.

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01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: So everyone, Uh, this is how we're kicking off December.

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing a lot of fun holiday movies.

1442
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing another Grace Thomas Santa Claus episode.

1443
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing an episode on this Christmas. We're

1444
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna be doing what else? Are we doing an episode

1445
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve? You know? There's just there's and

1446
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: then over in the Matreon. However many Vanessa Hudgens as

1447
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: we can bear, so thanks for listening. You can find

1448
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: us in all the regular places Twitter, Instagram, We've we've

1449
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: you know, you know what the Matreon is at this point,

1450
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: and there's ongoing sales if you want to get back

1451
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: tel Cast merch for you or your loved ones this

1452
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: holiday season. Feeling to do so over at te public

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01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: dot com slash the beactel Cast, right, that's the one.

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 1: You think I would know that by now U And

1455
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: there's face masks, which is cool. I I just actually

1456
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I need to order Bactel Cast face masks because because why,

1457
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: I feel like a poser on our own show. I'm

1458
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: literally I'm look what I'm like fidgeting with right now?

1459
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm literally fidgeting with my Alfred Bollina action figure. I

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01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: keep him at my work desk. He calms me down. Good, oh,

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01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: good wit. And I was just gonna ask you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: have you told this story or do the listeners know

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01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: about this? Okay, because we need to Okay, we said

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01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: the episode was over, but it actually there's more where

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01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: I think maybe we talked about the Matreon but not.

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01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 1: This needs to be as public as possible and everyone

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01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: to have access to this. Um Okay, so it was.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure out which listener originally sent

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01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: this to us, but essentially, we did a Matrian episode

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01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago at this point where we

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Speaker 1: watched all of the Grinches. We just like drank all

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Speaker 1: day and a potatoes and watched every Grinch and you know,

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01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: just talked a lot of ship and I love Baby Grinch.

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01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: We've had Baby Grinch merch for years. You can get it.

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Speaker 1: This is a plug, right, But a listener sent us

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01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: a link to something just simply called Green baby Boy,

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01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: and it was a kind of like the shop looked

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01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: like like I can't it a little mean online shop.

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01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: Something's not quite right because what it said it was selling.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was a production still of the

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01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 1: animatronic for Baby Grinch. It looked very top quality. The

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01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 1: product that the site said they were selling looked as

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01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: though it came straight off the movie set. It looks

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01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: like it would have couldn't be right because it was

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01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: only thirty dollars and it looked like it should have

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01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: cost like three hundred dollars if it was what it said.

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01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: So but so so Calin and I were back and

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01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: forth of like, where's the line, Where's the line? And

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01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: then I was like, I had to I have I

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01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:18,560
Speaker 1: spoke to God about it and and she said she

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01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: She said to me, Jamie, I think this is a business.

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01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,799
Speaker 1: You can list us as a business investment on your taxes.

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01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, yeah, okay, I guess I'll do it.

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01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: And I ordered it and there was no tracking number.

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01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: There was impossible to know if Green baby Boy was

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01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: ever going to come, and if he came, what what

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01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: what would it be like? And then the night Joe

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01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: Biden won the presidency a fraud weird night. Literally moments

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01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: before the speech, I received a package and inside of

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Speaker 1: it it was not what was in the pictures. I

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Speaker 1: will post a pick sure of it to the feed,

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01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: but it's like impossible to describe. It is technically a

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01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 1: green baby boy, but it's it's like, it's so scary

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01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: to look at it as like soulless eyes. It is hollow.

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01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: It's made like a dog toy that doesn't squeak. But

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01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: you can just it has a little hole in its button.

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01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: You can just make it totally flat. You can squish

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01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: his head. Uh, it's made out of rubber. It is

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01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: technically a dog toy. It's it's definitely not worth thirty dollars.

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01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: And I don't know who made this. Who's doing that?

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01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah, you face timed me yes with

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01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: the second you received it to show it to me,

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01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: and I've I like nearly pee my pants laughing so

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01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: hard because I'd never I wasn't expecting necessarily, you don't

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01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: know what to expect, but I wasn't expecting that. And

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01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: it's yeah, so we'll we'll do like side by side

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01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: comparisons of like a screenshot of what the site was

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01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: advertising and what actually showed up. Because it is the

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01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world. And I'm so sorry you

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01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: spent thirty plus shipping and handling the greatest return on

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01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: investment either. I was just like it, maybe miss shows

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01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: because I'm like, ah, if I could bring this to

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01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: a show, really set up Green Baby Boy and then

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01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 1: and then pass them around. Oh that's your next one

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01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: person show. Submit, Submit Green Baby Boy the show to

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01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Edinburgh in Please. You think they're gonna say now please?

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01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: That's just good storytelling. Uh so? So my my two

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01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: guardian angels on yeah and my desk are Green Baby

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01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Boy and Dot Cock. Amazing. Well, okay, now that's the episode. Um,

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Speaker 1: just a reminder about the live reading of Disney's The

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01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: Santa Clause that we were doing on Sunday, December at

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01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: six and Pacific nine pm Eastern. Again, the link that

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01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: will allow you to donate and thereby purchase a ticket

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01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: to the show will be on all of our social

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01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: media and again on my website, Caitlin Darante dot com.

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01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: And we really hope to see you there again for

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01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: a terrific cause reclaim and rebuild our community. The show

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01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: is going to be a blast and we hope to

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01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: see you there. Thanks for listening. Have a safe holiday

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01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: season everybody, and we'll talk to you soon. We'll see

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01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: you soon Bye bye bye