1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Give it a chance, Give it a chance, Give it 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: a chance. Good morning, give it a chance, Give it 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: a chance, Give it a chance, Give it a chance, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: good morning, Give it a Do you want to give 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: it a chance? 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Give it a chance, give it a chance. Just give 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: it a hie me Heiney. 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: You know my preschool teacher, I had to miss Dick 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: and miss Heiney stop. Impossible, I'm telling them possible. Yeah, 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was miss or missus for both, 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: but I think it was like miss you know, missus Dick, 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: missus heiney Opper is what we what I used to 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: call her them. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: Apparently you didn't even know that should be the title 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: of this app for sure, miss we have never titled 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: something different than the song. Yeah, miss heiny Opper. Hey, 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: mister mister whatever, I can't do the risk. I can't 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: do the risk. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: But I probably as a kid, probably didn't even like 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: pick up on that one of my teacher's names is 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: missus Dick, Like I didn't probably understand. 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I get I guarantee that 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: at that age you didn't think that was notable. You 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: definitely thought miss Heinie was notable for sure, having just 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: literally minutes before this been in an educational environment with 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: pre kindergarteners and kindergarteners, I promise you that Heine would 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: be so much more. In fact, this is this is 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: a legit thing. One of the it connects to chance, 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: it connects a chancey. I do some early music education 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: stuff at my daughter's school which we will leave nameless 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: here in Brooklyn. And just now, in the class I 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: said I did. It was like the pre k today 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: and in the kindergarten, and I said in the kindergarten 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: something was awesome. And one of the students went, mister Kevin, 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: you said the A word. And I was like, what awesome? 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: And then he spelled out as N and I was like, 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: and I was like, I did not say that. I 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: would not say that in the classroom, and in fact, 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't appreciate the accusation. And then I went off 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: on this little kid. I was like, in fact, yeah, 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: I put them I will not I will, I will, 42 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: just so they'll never be able to be found in 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: they place. 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: This is actually really fitting that we are talking about this, okay, 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: because this is a very controversial artist that we're going today, 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: and I actually have a pit in my stomach about it, 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: because it's like I do believe that sometimes we shouldn't 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: give certain things a. 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Platform and a stomach pit holy cow. Okay. 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: And it's not like it's not like Charles Manson, which 51 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: is actually maybe a good one too, you know what 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean? But like as an interesting No. 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: Guns N' Roses definitely covered that on an album, So 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: that was that was a cool thing they gave a 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: chance to. You had platform four tens of millions of people. 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: But please contind I. 57 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Didn't realize that. I didn't realize that. Oh wow, that's crazy. 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: It was on the spaghetti incident. No one really listened 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: to that, but wow, the Spaghettians. 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: So this is an artist that is very controversial, Okay, 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: blew up pretty fast. Was like kind of like hated 62 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: even within like the own his own community or his 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: own genre. 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: Would you say like he was hated and discriminated against? 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: Is that a I'm not even sure if that's a lyric. 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: Oh no, that I haven't been hated to discriminated against. 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I have. 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: I've been protested and demonstrated against. Okay, sorry, please go ahead, 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: I didn't miss is what you do in front of 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: those kids at the school all day. Yeah, I sit 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: back with this back is exact. Yeah, yeah, I just 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: rip it up all right? Please? Sorry? So, yeah, this 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: is in the rap category. If you haven't picked up 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: on that, Oh yeah. 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you you could guess is like 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: incredibly infamous of recent. 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: Recently blown up last ten years controversial? You think it's 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: like the speed at which they got big. I think 79 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: this person is probably a b is a machine gun? 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: Is it machine gun? Kelly? No, it's not, it's not. 81 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: It's not. OK. I like that you took a stab 82 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: bona fide shithead is great? 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Uh? 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: The last ten years blew up in hip hop? 85 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really I'm excited to get your get your 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: opinion on this because I in my head, I'm like, 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: why would Kevin even put on this artist? Aside from 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: just like, let me see what this is all about? 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: And maybe you don't even know. I wonder if you 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: even don't even know? If I wonder if yeah, it's 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: possible you might say something I really expose my grandpais 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: I think though, once. 93 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: I say the name, you'll be like, yes, I do 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: have some sort of idea of who this who this fellow. 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Is is it x X ex tentation. 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: No, it's not, but you're it's it's a similar era, 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: you know in terms of like names like that you 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: got one more guests. 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Okay, is it like is it like is it like 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: you know, little little little Durbin or something little? Yeah, 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: howdy little. I don't know a little something. It's Takashi six', Nine. 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Okay SO i know that person is like has lots 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: of like facial tattoos and. Stuff, right sort of looks 104 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: Aesthetically i'm really gonna come across as like a total 105 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: ignorant person. HERE i feel like aesthetically similar to MAYBE xxx, 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: temptation like like physical presentation, wise someone maybe like the 107 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: way it's dressed. 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Up definitely he's got he's got, faces, yeah not. 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: Fees not. Feces. 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: UH i think LIKE xxx is like a polar rising. 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Figure there's a lot OF i, mean he also died very, 112 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: young SO i think. 113 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: That's WHERE i. 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: THINK i think when people die that there's always like 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: a fondness brought, upon like like the or the good 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: stuff kind of comes out more than some of they. 117 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 2: Have become like. Anglicized, yeah it's like there's an angel 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: wings get painted on, them and it's like actually like, 119 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: like you, know we're not going to talk about anybody 120 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: in my wheelhouse in this rotten this, arena BUT i 121 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: could EVEN i could talk about you, KNOW i will 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: just say there's a club Called loopos In, Providence Rhode, 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: island and one of its features is they have a. 124 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Mural and this is like by. NOW i don't know 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: if they updated every couple of years when new young 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: rock or rap martyrs, die but like on, it it's 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: like a wall of like all like you, know it's 128 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: like The, jam The Heaven's greatest jam. Band you, know 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: it's Like Jam's Chopltin Jimmy hendricks AND i Think Kirk 130 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: cobain literally has angel wings. On you, Know i'm a big. 131 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Fan but, like let's also like these people do the 132 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: things they also? Do do do they? Do do they? Do? 133 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: Do Dave? Easy? NO i thought, That BUT i thought 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: WITH Xxx temptation and Maybe takisi six nine, also wasn't 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: there like accusations that one of those people like murdered 136 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: somebody or. Something AM i getting way out ahead of? 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: US i thought? 138 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Somebody, Yeah, No takashi six nine has definitely allegations of 139 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: like you, know, uh sexual relationship with an underage. 140 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Person oh, Gotcha, okay very. 141 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Cool, yeah but you, KNOW i don't, know LIKE i 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: haven't gone too far into. It that's Why i'm, like 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: this is a controversial, thing but it's also it's such as, 144 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: zeitgeisty or maybe there was a time that it was 145 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: even more. Zeitgeisty AND i thought when sometimes LIKE i 146 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: have a running list of like artists that are divisive 147 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: like that people hate just BECAUSE i do think it 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: fits This and this is gonna be a really hard. 149 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: ONE i, THINK i think specifically for you not to judge, 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: you BUT i think this is a tough sell for 151 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: you to give a. Chance and SO i tried to 152 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: find a song THAT i heard this. Is so it's 153 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: hard to, find like what the number one six' nine 154 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: song is or snitch nine some people call him because 155 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: he ratted some. 156 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: People out, oh see this is like division. Numerous levels, 157 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: oh yeah allegations then within like a, certain community like you, 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: a snitch, like damn he. 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: Snitched on members Of the bloods whoa claims he's a. 160 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: Blood and not. 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: A blood oh, my god he used blood affiliation even 162 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: though he didn't. Have it this is all things that 163 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: go into. 164 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: His. 165 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: Bag baby AND so i found a Song. Called gooba 166 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: all the songs are like titled Things. 167 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: Like gummo that's. Something, gummo, yeah, Yeah. Yeah gooba i'm 168 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: looking at it. Right, now yeah here. 169 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: WE go i think that you should watch the music 170 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: VIDEO because i think it will give you because he's 171 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Such a it's an artist that came out in an 172 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: era where your image is really tied to. 173 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: It. All, yeah, Sure sure and without further of, do 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: shadow we now Listen to Gooba by TAKASHI Six n 175 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: take your grandpa to? Work day, all right here. We, 176 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: go okay you've got, some money but you still FUCK OUT. 177 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: Stupi i have, One, question kevin are? You dumb stupid? 178 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: Or dumb it's kind. 179 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: OF great i know that is sort of, my unfortunately 180 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: like my. 181 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: My takeaway the REASON why i picked this Is because 182 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: i've heard it BEFORE and i was captivated by. That 183 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: chorus you don't stupid? Or dumb is is. The, takeaway yeah. 184 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: IT'S funny i sometimes struggle to separate my macro from 185 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: micro thoughts that stuff like this and in WAYS that 186 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: i think it can be like that's such an interesting 187 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: way to. Describe it there are certain relationships in my 188 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: LIFE where i think there are people who really like 189 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: that about. Our interactions and there's other relationships in my 190 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: LIFE where i know there are people who are like 191 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: instantly exhausted by that facet of. My PERSONALITY and i 192 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: totally understand it is what, it IS and i AM what, 193 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: I AM but i feel like the PRIMARY thing, i, was, 194 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: yeah yeah it's strown to the finish because are? You 195 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: dumb stupid? OR dumb i feel Like when i'm, Watching 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: this i'm like THE thing, i THOUGHT what i mostly 197 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: thought was like two THINGS before i even get into 198 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: anything about the music itself or the quality of to 199 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Whatever degree I'M even, I first i personally feel even 200 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: equipped to be an assessor of. Such things it's like 201 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: every generation needs it's and. Micro Generations. Two caul there 202 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: is this is like five. Years ago now there's probably 203 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: five years, in fact, Not probably i'm certain there's stuff 204 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: that's five years more, like, saturated fragmented, you know sort of, 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: like assaulted no, potentially horrifying, pun intended knowing nothing about 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: this person's actual like whatever, they were allegations exist, against 207 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: him and whatever else this is meant to be like 208 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: a kind of like the, color schematic the like the 209 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: way it's playing back and forth between like literal cartoon 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: imagery and like, hyper saturated like, you know it's literally 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: like paint being thrown at like, you know naked women. 212 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Or whatever like it's it's supposed to play at some 213 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: very fine razor's edge between like like really taboo kind 214 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: of like, HE'S like i, don't know if you see 215 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: him for five seconds in the video without his middle, 216 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: fingers up he's. Taunting you the whole thing is like. 217 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: Fucking taunting his existence is a taunt to the status. 218 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: Quo cook and then like but like the ha but. 219 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: You know and then also, it's like, you know there's aspects, 220 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: of IT like i could see my nine year old 221 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: seeing like twenty seconds of the right twenty or wrong 222 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: twenty seconds. Of that it's all. Bright colors everything's at 223 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: Such a so the TWO things i thought, were like 224 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: every generation of microgeneration needs its things that differentiate it 225 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: via scandalization from the generations that, Preceded It like i'm 226 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: not supposed to watch that and be, like like first, 227 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: of all instantly get it or instantly be able to 228 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: like think about it the way an eighteen year old 229 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: or someone twenty through two year old who watches that thinks. 230 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: About it and that's the nature of whatever has been 231 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 2: kind of like at the sort of like spears tip. 232 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: Of whatever the next thing, is forever whether it, was 233 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: punk whether it was, hip hop when it was rock, 234 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: and roll when it was like it's literally there to 235 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: define generational divides on some level like either get it or, 236 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: you don't you KNOW what. I MEAN and i think 237 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: it gets harder and harder to find ways to be scandalous, 238 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: or whatever like the rebellion gets harder and harder to 239 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: it sort of, like cultivate and that ends up where 240 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: you do just like mash all this shit together and 241 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: some kind of like post it's post a lot. Of 242 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: THINGS but i did also think like this is punk 243 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: rock to a whether they would call it that, Or 244 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: not like. It's aggression it's like unapologetic in, your faceness 245 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: even like the fact that it is kind OF like 246 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: i don't even know How, to well maybe That's where i'll, 247 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: leave that because then the rest would be getting into 248 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: like assessing his like skills as a rapper, Or WHATEVER 249 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: like i don't even Know IF i'm i don't even 250 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: know IF if i have anything salient to, Say there 251 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: but do you KNOW what i mean with, all that 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: it's just like, it's, YEAH. 253 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah i agree with you with all the heightening of 254 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: this music and and these ideas from like punk rock 255 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: and EVEN like i remember grunge was like and the 256 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: slacker culture was, sort, of oh what are we going? 257 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: To do and then, you know obviously even, before that like, 258 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: metal culture with like the government wanting to step in 259 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and put, you know parental advisory on like these like. 260 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: Literally stepping in, yeah yeah like actually. Doing it. Yeah 261 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: yeah and so this is so WILD. 262 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: Because i do think to, your point on one side 263 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: of me, is, like oh they are they are they 264 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: are making this look like it's, For children like this 265 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: is the same backgrounds that Like a Miss rachel or 266 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Or like blippy would use like it is they use 267 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: a shark that is like exactly like the baby, shark 268 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: shark and it's, it's like so it's it's, for children but. 269 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: It's not that is not made. For children and he would, 270 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: just say and he reads the right, to say it's freedom. 271 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: OF speech i didn't say it's. For children it's your 272 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: job to not have your kids watch this if that if, 273 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: You're CONCERNED and i kind of agree with. 274 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: That TOO so i agree with. 275 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: ALL that i agree with the uh AND and i 276 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: think moving next into like his, technical prowess there's elements 277 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: here that IS just i actually don't think that this 278 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: era really cares about their lyrical prowess in the WAY 279 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: that i think our, generations rappers like like, You know 280 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Biggie nas eminem, fifty cent like even going through the, 281 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: two thousands LIKE where i. 282 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: Like The ghost face. Or. Something, Yeah YEAH. 283 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: And i think that these that this this like this 284 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: era is really just about making, a splash getting some 285 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: attention quickly and, you know effectively and exactly what you 286 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: described of just like throwing everything, at you taunting you 287 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: is such a good way to. DESCRIBE it i really 288 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: you really Cooked and I'm eating i'm. 289 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: DIGESTING still, i mean, YOU know i, feel, like uh 290 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: that that is a for better and for worse sometimes 291 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: SOMETIMES like i might, be cooking but WHAT am? I 292 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: cooking and who wants to? Eat it you KNOW what? I, Mean, 293 00:15:53,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: MONEY no i, feel, LIKE yeah i think that's a. 294 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: GOOD point i definitely get the sense of part. Of 295 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,479 Speaker 2: it seems like an in what's, the word like, internice 296 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: scene interna scene whatever, that is like intramural debate in 297 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: hip hop is actually about like how hip, hop, artists, 298 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: writers whatever, the culture how it how it digests these 299 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: artists and how it, assesses them like because there is 300 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: a real shift from like someone like the ART like 301 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: i think about someone Like ghost FACERS or i guess 302 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: like now it's like considered like a generational like old 303 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: school like something like clips right or pusha te that 304 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: is so like like like Defined by it's like it's 305 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: like it they're like. Short stories it's. Narrative prowess it's 306 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: like you know these like The ghost face Stuff Like 307 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: supreme clientell that shit it's like five four and five 308 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: MINUTE like i Feel Like raymond carver stories, or something 309 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: but just told through a very specific voice. And lens 310 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: this shit is not, about that, you know and it's 311 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: not and and so like and then it's not about 312 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: like also like someone like nas or Certainly like eminem 313 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: And maybe kendrick is kind of like a like more 314 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: But even kendrick now is like an old head to. 315 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: These kids but like Somebody like kendrick was a torch 316 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: bearer for that that was about, like, construction syllabic, interior 317 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: rhyme schematics and like how do you Or like andre 318 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: three thousand or something, like that that's like ancient compared 319 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: to what this, shit Is like eminem or someone, like 320 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: that like really thinking about, like WELL if i land, 321 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: this here THEN if i land, this here and if 322 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: it's like, you know magnetic poetry, or something this is. 323 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: Not THAT and i DO think i think It's the you're, 324 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: right though, it is but really what it is is, 325 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: it's like is this such a funny reference to? Think 326 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: OF and i have no, idea why but it's what 327 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: popped in. My head BUT when i was, a kid 328 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: teenager maybe it was, Late, TEENS yeah I guess i 329 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: would have been. Like seventeen it WAS The Mtv music 330 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: awards the year, that, like uh what? Was it fucking THE, 331 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: big oa The bigger? Oasis record what's? The Story morning 332 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: glory was was out and like, you know, they were, 333 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: They were they played on it and They played Champagne 334 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: super nova and like a pre right Word Turn Fox 335 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: News Monday. Night Football dennis miller was the host OF 336 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: The Mtv Video music awards and you, know sardonic dripping, 337 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: with sarcasm, you know cultural very like uh, you know 338 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: high culture engine in that. Guy's Brain And, liam gallagher, 339 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: you know Acts Like liam gallagher the. Whole performance he's 340 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: kind of like insutionint and fucking and he like spills 341 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: his beer on the stage like on purpose while they're 342 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: playing she had Made, Super nova and when it goes 343 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: Back To, dennis miller, he, goes wow he spilled, his 344 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: beer like totally just like mocking the, like, like wow 345 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: you're fucking, so cool, You KNOW and i remember it 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: made like such an imprint on me because he this 347 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: guy just was like in, That Moment liam gallagher, Was 348 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: like i'm the coolest fucking person in. The world and 349 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: then this guy went right back to the guy that 350 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: was like you're, a, Loser dude like what the fuck? 351 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: Was That and i'm not calling six', nine a LOSER 352 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: but what i am saying is there's something about watching it, 353 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: where you're like you live enough cycles and you're instantly 354 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: able to sort, of be, like oh right like So 355 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: You're the marilyn manson figure or whatever that like people 356 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: are going to be like Should Or and marilyn manson 357 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: was twisted, sister Or whatever and twisted's, sister was Yeah 358 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: and gig allen's actually at least like actually. A fringe 359 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: character i'm thinking about these people that exist in the 360 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: mainstream because, WHATEVER six, nine i know the mainstream has 361 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: changed and how we even define that in like a. 362 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: Fragmented MEDIA culture but i know who. That person, IS 363 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: six now i knew. Who that was i'm a forty 364 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: five year old like dude who doesn't even listen to anything. 365 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: Like THIS active so I guess what i mean is 366 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: He's Closer to jake paul than he, is to, like 367 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: you know. 368 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: Totally And Right and sid vicious is a great example, 369 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: provocateur Like, right but jake it's like there's all so 370 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: like a sort of like mollified. Version OF that and 371 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: i feel. Like this thing you watch it and you're 372 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: just sort of like within very, quickly, it's like oh that's. What, 373 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: this is now, it's an iterated evolved. Version of it 374 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: and it's four people who are not forty five year 375 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: old dudes who listen to. Pavement or whatever but you 376 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: can situate it, in a. Lineage YOU know and i 377 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: also think there's something, about, the like yeah there is 378 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: a moment too where you're, like, you're, like YEAH okay 379 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: like i wonder when. The next evolution but also maybe 380 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: this is like THIS is where i go TO global 381 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: and i need you can LIKE ring or i could, 382 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: drop it here drop it off at the. End of 383 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: this but it's like there is a thing that there's 384 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: like a quote we maybe you've talked about this on, 385 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: The show before like there's some social, theorist that says 386 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: like the greatest sort of like the greatest dreams or 387 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: aspirations of an oppressed class is to. Become the oppressor 388 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: like that's the that's the horizon point of your of 389 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Your greatest DREAM and like i think of, Stuff like, 390 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: this i'm like what point are we going? To evolve 391 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: past like the most radical thing we can have is 392 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: like the, most materialistic representation plus like The most like 393 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: i've been able to line up twenty, five you know 394 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: hot hot women in fucking dental floss bikinis and throw 395 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: paint at them or like mock choke. Them OR whatever, 396 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 2: and i know then we get into a whole question 397 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 2: about agency and who chooses to beware And and so 398 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: i'm not that those, are treacherous waters but it just 399 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: does feel like a point, where it's like aren't, there 400 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: greater dreams more liberatory dreams to be represented at some 401 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: point than just LIKE the same i have a diamond 402 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: shark and look at. This hot. Girl i'm degrading but 403 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: maybe that's not for me to. 404 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Say hoping we're going. To get there i'm hoping we're 405 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: going to get there with like in time and like 406 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: because of. Things like this despite these it's almost like 407 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: you sometimes you need a car crash in order to 408 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: like total realize you got to drive better or, something like, 409 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: That you KNOW and so i don't know that's, a 410 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: STRANGE metaphor but i want to switch gears a little 411 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: bit and talk about SOME. 412 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: Chanceship that i might have and. 413 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: You might have because the reason THE reason why i 414 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: sort of Even listened to takashi six stander gave. Him 415 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: a chance and it's a very strange reason because it's not. 416 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Really very me but somebody who's a friend of mine 417 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: was telling me that he doesn't like like this music 418 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: except if he's, in the gym he Will put on 419 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: takashi sixty nine or like like this kind, of you 420 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: know brutal maximalist hip hop and it's funny because to 421 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: even call it. Maximalist is weird very minimal. Actually really, 422 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: simple it's yeah but like the ideas that are being 423 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: thrown at you and like the, visuals and stuff that's, 424 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: where it's like that's why it's. 425 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: This, weird scent well that's the punk. Rock of it 426 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: it's fucking. Simple and straightforward but it's, also like that 427 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: like it's. Hardcore, or, something, yeah, yeah yeah yeah that's 428 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: such a good way. 429 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: To describe IT and, so i think like in, terms 430 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: like that if there's a, PLACE for this i do 431 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: think that it works in a in a, situation like, 432 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: that YOU know like i think we've maybe this doesn't 433 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: going back to. 434 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: An older episode maybe this doesn't Fit. At, at kerra well 435 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: it Depends on. The catholic wedding it depends on that 436 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: AND on actually i Would play a. Catholic wedding dog 437 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: actually this is there is a Lot of like spanish. 438 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: INFLUENCE in THIS i think i think six,' nine is Uh, 439 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: it's definitely speaks spanish so maybe this is at some 440 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: continue it probably, DEFINITELY is ALL dude I. 441 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: Will i would i will cut off my left pinky 442 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: if it is somehow verifiable to me that this has 443 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: never been. Played at a kista i'm sure it's been 444 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: played at. A fucking bar mitzvah i'm sure it's been 445 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: played in some edited Version at like. A CATHOLIC school 446 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: dance like I guarantee you some dj, was like, no 447 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: doubt poopoo change no. Doubty on, that, One but anyway please. 448 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: And in the music video there's, a point, where there 449 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: you know there's all these colors and all, these like 450 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you know his, hair is very colorful his face tattoos 451 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: are a mix of color, and black and white and 452 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: at one Point He holds a dalmatian and then this 453 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: is more of a give it a chance to the director, 454 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: for like doing that because it's. Such A great moment 455 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the dalmatians a, puppy is so cute and also just 456 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: like the black and white with all this color Is, 457 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: SO smart that yeah i love that there's a part 458 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: where his hair gets. Caught, in, an umbrella yes yes 459 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: because all this. STUFF is getting thrown i like love. 460 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: That humanizing element, there, this is like really just give 461 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: it a. CHANCY for the director I mean it's also 462 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: i should, take, away some chances yeah because it's like 463 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: mostly just scantily clad women getting. Pain thrown at him 464 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: there's also a woman in There who has a takashi six', 465 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: nine TATTOO on her chest and i really like it 466 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: made me think about what the process, Was of hiring 467 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: this person like did did they do a cast and 468 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: call of like do? You have a tattoo you or 469 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: like did? They already know, this person they were like. 470 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: So let's put them on did you? Do it, FOR 471 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: the thing it's LIKE I have so many qui i need. 472 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: TO talk to the producers i actually totally had the 473 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: exact same series of. THOUGHTS as that, Came, UP i 474 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: was like wow i wonder if Because anyone who exists 475 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: Like i'm saying this neither i'm saying this for no 476 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: other reason than because it, is a point of fact 477 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: and it's. TOTALLY batshit crazy to me i am probably. 478 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: ONE five hundred thousandth as, i Don't know the math 479 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: but i'm not in the same realm of visibility and 480 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: popularity and streaming success and all the rest of. It 481 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: as six' nine is and there are people that will 482 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: come up at shows that have shit tattooed on them, 483 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: from like my. BODY of work as a musician i 484 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: have no idea how to contend with, that, besides just, 485 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: to be. LIKE wow that's insane thank you i never 486 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: know what, to SAY to that besides that BUT i definitely, 487 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: know that if i have that then certainly people like. 488 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: THIS have like exponentially more so i wonder if it 489 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: is literally a person that was. Just like, it's all 490 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: of that i'm like did they ask that person to get, 491 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: that tattoo, and they were like oh right, you know 492 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: you only, live, once or, was it like yo our 493 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: friend remember she's got a tattoo of your, face on 494 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: her upper left breast like let's get her in the video? 495 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: Or what the. Story was there but definitely memorable it, 496 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: Definitely THE video, deserves a series like, i thought also 497 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: the choice again this punk rock juxtaposition of like approachability, 498 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: with like, the most it's like you know it's like 499 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: a candy store nihilism Or something like he's holding the 500 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: dalmatian WHILE he says something about like i. Think that's 501 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: one Of the lines it's about like i'm not going 502 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: to get the. Lyrics STARTS or won't even try but 503 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: i believe that's a moment where he talks about like 504 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: in the world created within the song, they're talking about 505 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: like shooting somebody like while He's. Like smiling and holding 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 2: the dalmatian she's very like that's. A total thing, in 507 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: that world i feel like especially in that sort, of 508 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: sub world of that world is like it's kind of 509 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: like he's, like smiling too the whole time but it's like. 510 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: There's like a menace to it but it's like it's 511 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: like he's like a menacing fucking teddy bear Or something 512 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: like he's holding a dalmatian and he's painting, and he's 513 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: giving you middle fingers and he's never kind of. Like 514 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: jovial and laughing and taunting but, it's Like the ship 515 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: being said if i'm glad, you SUGGESTED to WATCH the 516 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: video because i think i wouldn't have gotten half or 517 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: sixty percent of the intended. Impact just listening to that 518 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: song that. Shit, Almost exists TO be visual. 519 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's WHY i tied it together because i do 520 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: think that there are people. 521 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: Who are in your world that now feel that they 522 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: need to put a visual. 523 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Element to every song, they, make, LET alone this, world. 524 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: NO dude i think well and. I think that opens, 525 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: up conversation it's not even necessarily or maybe this, is 526 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: an on ramp to it, or maybe it's for another 527 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: time maybe it's FOR a different format even but i 528 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: DO feel like that there are i think one of 529 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: the things that is a really fascinating series of internalizations 530 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: about anybody that would like to try to be a 531 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: musician in, any kind of public facing, way CERTAINLY in 532 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five but i would say this has been increasing, 533 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: over the last like ten years. Is that you are 534 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: now you everyone is kind of, expected to be like 535 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 2: a multidisciplinary multidisciplinary artist who, is also like a you know, 536 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: fortune five hundred, level like, entrepreneurs small, business owner marketing 537 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: expert and yes everything has to be attached to some 538 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: kind of like easily, digestible thirty seconds at a time visual. 539 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: And if you aren't Those things the number of conversations i've, been, in, 540 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 2: where it's? Almost like well well what's. Wrong almost like, 541 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: not with ARTISTS by the way most artists i talk 542 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: to are like horrified that this, is the landscape they've 543 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: stumbled into, this, like apocalyptic wasteland of, like yeah it's 544 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: all on you, and if it's not. On you weren't good. 545 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: Enough it's, REALLY kind of fascinating but yeah i do 546 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: think there is a degree to which it's like you 547 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: are so expected to be like and have some like mega, 548 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: compelling like this is mega compelling and, it's like, not everybody's, 549 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: doing this, YOU know, BUT anyway. 550 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: You know i know i know it is such A 551 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: strange World because it's Like i release, it's very seldom 552 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: i'll release MUSIC and it's really just because i am 553 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: always thinking about making music, and writing music and recording 554 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Music and every couple of. Years i'll JUST put something 555 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Out and now i mean like i'm not even like, 556 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: looking for, anything that's that crazy you know for it 557 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: to become aside from like some friends and people to 558 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: hear it and just you. 559 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: Feel like nice putting it out but. 560 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: It does because the landscape is so like it's so 561 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: much else that it's, become, So much else you're like 562 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: oh i'm just there's just a tree getting chopped down 563 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: in the. Forest and no one's around, anymore like that's 564 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: what my like my just putting out an album. 565 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: FEELS like, without, any other COMPONENTS i mean dude it 566 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: increasingly i don't mean to be distant to, SAY something 567 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: that might seem disingenuous i think it increasingly feels like 568 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: that for people existing at like my rung of who 569 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: whatever For whatever series of accidents of fate and like 570 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: dogged persistence. Have like actually found some audience, Like and. 571 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: We have a buddy chris O'Brien He Has. A band 572 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: called the high chiefs. Made a Great Record, last year 573 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: it's called old bitch but it's like. There's a dog 574 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: on The cover it's like an Old they're Like a kind. 575 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: Of church of american Song band, it's like guys from 576 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: budo's band people from. That stuff playing as his band 577 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: chris is always like an irrepressible personality and in many 578 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: ways one of THE most. Interesting multi disciplinary artists i 579 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: know he's just not For. Whatever series again accidents of 580 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: fate he has not had like a public facing moment 581 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: of like consequence WITH any of the things. That i believe, 582 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: he does well, his comic mind, his writing mind his. 583 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: Musician mind is visual ARTIST mind and something he and 584 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: i talk ABOUT with SOME frequency is like i wish 585 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: i could just like snap my fingers and have it 586 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: be that Like fifty thousand, people KNEW who chris O'Brien 587 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: was because i think it would. Be FUCKING amazing for 588 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: those people but i, don't KNOW how to do that 589 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: and i think it gets harder and fucking harder every, 590 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: Year for what you're talking about, Like to Just like 591 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: be like i'm because i'm saying this to you TO your. 592 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: Face because it's what i, think it doesn't have to. 593 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: Be it is what it is you're very good at what, 594 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: You DO when you do music like i. Really enjoy 595 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: the music YOU make and it's also like i have 596 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: no fucking idea how to get people, to even hear 597 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: my music anymore Let alone, like, ELEVATE people who i'm 598 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: like Yo i Wish More people Heard casey or Brian 599 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: bonds or, chris, O'Brien or whoever's, Just LIKE dude i'm so. 600 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 2: SORRY like i don't know you. I don't know what 601 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: to say the other. 602 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: Side of IT is like It's not that, i dislike, 603 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: or i'm, afraid of You know making content because like 604 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: i've worked on a NUMBER of your music videos and 605 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: i love making them and conceptualizing them, and editing them and. 606 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: You know like. 607 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: All this stuff it's so fun but it feels like 608 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: when you do that and, you make a lot of 609 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: work it makes a small splash and then the stuff 610 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: that's just like, really quick and like you know throwing 611 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: paint at a woman. 612 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: Is always going to. 613 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: Do better so that's the funny that's, Like, the hard 614 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: THING is like kevi you and i NEED to get. 615 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: Some, Paint AND i, Tell me yeah and i mean 616 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: i'm not saying we can't, get, Some bad he's either case. 617 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: LIKE i'm not saying we can't i. Know you Already Named, 618 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: A few, we got brian bonds i. Mean, get him. 619 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: IN those, OUTFITS ah that's fantastic i mean i WILL 620 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: also just share one thing i did think Of that's 621 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: maybe a, little bit i'm the curtain chancy. But not 622 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: about us at all, my partner works, in his DIRECTOR, 623 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: works in film. Works in tv works in theater and 624 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: she was WORKING on a movie and the i think 625 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: one of the dp's that she was working with told 626 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: A story about WORKING on that kanye video with, i 627 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: DON'T remember the other person But i might. Have been 628 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: to kashi six Nine it's the video for that i'm 629 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: a sick fuck that likes a. Quick fuck whatever that, song, 630 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: is and in that video okay and in that video 631 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: they're like in these big boxy almost like like rock'm, 632 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: sock and robots costumes or something and they're just like 633 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: kind of like sexually accosting this. GIANT woman or whatever 634 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: it is i. Can't remember the deal, with That it's 635 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: something LIKE that and kanye turned because i feel like 636 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: a lot of this Stuff exists in, like a. Post 637 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: kanye place too like his you could feel like little traces. 638 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: Of his audacity in this STUFF there's he said to 639 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: the dp, in utter seriousness about the Song which is 640 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: his lyrics where i'm a sick, fuck who likes a 641 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: quick fuck and where there's like these two dudes who are, 642 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: like in rock', soccer robot costumes like you know sexually 643 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: assaulting a woman. Or whatever, the fuck, it was he 644 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 2: said you know This song's going, to fix THE chicago education, 645 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: system and the dp Was, like and you just with 646 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 2: kanye apparently you just, had, to always be like yeah 647 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: totally totally, because if you, Were like. What he'd, BE 648 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: like you're fired you know i. GET off the fucking 649 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: set anyway i don't know what that has, to Do 650 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: with any of this but i'm. Just giving, the the 651 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: the chances and yeah we, live in a very fascinating 652 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: landscape like like whatever, thought process went into that video 653 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: the fact that the, artist, at the helm was like 654 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: End it's going. To save, The chicago education system and 655 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: meanwhile i'm trying to figure out How to get. People to, 656 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: HEAR chris O'Brien's, record it's like i, don't know it's 657 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: all related somehow but we and maybe six.' nine is 658 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: the point. 659 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: Of, Correlation i think to land it ultimately I'M not 660 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: going to throw on unless i just really start like 661 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: lifting weights or. 662 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: GOING to A boxing Gym or something i don't i. 663 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: GOT i'd LIKE for you to do i think, i would. 664 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: BE that would BE fun be fun I wonder if 665 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: i could be like, i Want to learn how to box, 666 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: but i'll, Never Want to hit someone even. 667 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: Insparring, like, I'm like or be hit yeah. Yeah i'm 668 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: a conscientious objector for boxing that's a good skit. That, 669 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: there's a sketch of. There somewhere yeah THERE is the 670 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: chance also is like i do want. TO raise we 671 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: have twenty seven seconds i want TO just very quickly 672 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 2: say also like i do nothing about whatever this dude 673 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: like maybe this. Dude is like a legit horrible person 674 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: and then like there's kind of like, a legit anti, 675 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: Chance attached, for, me like right away i'm like oh 676 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: but aesthetically every generation needs this punk rock and that's 677 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 2: clearly what his dude Is for some group of. Kids 678 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 2: that i'm not supposed to get but. There are, some 679 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: pain on. 680 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 1: Me case i'm serious we're doing it