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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hot Slive every Thursday, seven to nine. Right

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Speaker 1: here on seven to ten ESPN Seattle. I am Michael

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Speaker 1: Pumpus with my guy Paul Moya. You guys can't see

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer. He looks like he's ready for business right now.

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Speaker 1: He's got his button up on. Paul. How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. You know, it's it's already Thursday. You

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Speaker 1: know why you got here so quick? We played Monday.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Short week. It's very short week. But

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Speaker 1: now doing doing well. Look, life is good. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: always feel that way. It's been a crazy two years.

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Speaker 1: And now our Seahawks are are they? Three and three

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Speaker 1: and eight? Three and eight? Oh man? That hurts me.

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Speaker 1: But life is good and we're gonna talk about that,

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Speaker 1: maybe get some people feeling better about how they think

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Speaker 1: about the Seahawks. I hope so, man, life is good.

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Speaker 1: You know they lose on Monday night football had a

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Speaker 1: chance to win the game. Russell Wilson got the ball

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Speaker 1: with two minutes and some chains left marches down the

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna be able to do

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Speaker 1: that this time, honestly, just because of the way he's

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Speaker 1: been playing as of late. Got in that position, you're

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Speaker 1: on your own three or four yard line. I'm like, now,

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Speaker 1: there's no way, But you know what happens. The Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson sprinkles his magic out there a little bit, finds

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Speaker 1: DK for his first reception of the game, picks up

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Speaker 1: a first down with his legs, his DJ on the football,

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Speaker 1: then finds Freddie Sway middle of the field. Thirty tr touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Then they gotta go for two. So this is the

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Speaker 1: play that you lean on right here. A lot of

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Speaker 1: crossing patterns going on him. He finds Freddie Swain late

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Speaker 1: could have went to DK in the corner, just falls short,

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Speaker 1: but it ain't over the line of for it onside kick. Boom.

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Speaker 1: They recover the onside kick. Their best special teams player

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Speaker 1: lines up illegally. That's Nick Bloor inside the hash. You

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Speaker 1: can't do that a pick, oh man, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: you have to be outside the hash there. Again. I

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Speaker 1: think it's there's some silly rules there, but it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, you know, maybe we would

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Speaker 1: have had a chance along the way. What's really interesting

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Speaker 1: is their field goal kicker gets hurt, yes, and they

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Speaker 1: decide we're not gonna kick extra points. Anymore, and it

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Speaker 1: ends up biting us because they end up getting a

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Speaker 1: two point conversion even though we blocked one and took

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Speaker 1: it back to tie the game nine nine, they ended

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Speaker 1: up going for two and going up by eight, which

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Speaker 1: forced us to have to go for two and that

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Speaker 1: last deal there to tie it. And on that on

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Speaker 1: that fourth down, they might have kicked it, kicked the

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Speaker 1: field goal, yeah, and then they would have been up

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Speaker 1: and we had to score twice. So it's that we know.

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Speaker 1: It was weird to me. If you're a kicker, you

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Speaker 1: should be able to kick the ball any type of way.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's like me being a receiver and go.

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Speaker 1: I can't run that route, can't cast that ball, only

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Speaker 1: cast the deep ones over my shoulder. I just don't

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Speaker 1: get the kickers out there add value. I mean punters

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Speaker 1: kick kickers punts. I would throw this maybe a little

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Speaker 1: different at you. We're out of safeties. Yeah, bump, bump,

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Speaker 1: come on over here. I got you all right. Look,

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Speaker 1: no one's getting behind me. They might catch everything in

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Speaker 1: front of me more, but no one's getting behind me.

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Speaker 1: What if I throw it in front of you and

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Speaker 1: nice square up on you. Now you're gonna make an

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Speaker 1: open feel tackle. Dy. That's where it gets tricky. Hey,

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Speaker 1: are you lining up in fifteen yards? Are you lining

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Speaker 1: up eighteen yards? Now you're gonna bump and run? Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what happened. So my first time ever playing

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Speaker 1: kickoff was in the NFL. Bruce de Haven lines man goes, bump,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down there and gonna make that tackle.

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Speaker 1: I run down there and I just dive. He goes,

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Speaker 1: first guy down there, just take a shot, Shott. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing. I just dive at his ankles.

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Speaker 1: I'm pounding the ground because I missed the tackle, but

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Speaker 1: I forced him inside and my guys clean it up.

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Speaker 1: I go, coach, if you just want me to go

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Speaker 1: down there and take a shot, I got you. Now.

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Speaker 1: If you're asking me to break down, square him up,

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Speaker 1: grab cloth, or drive to the ground, it's a different story.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's a great special team coach, yep.

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Speaker 1: I used to teach that too. I used teach it

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Speaker 1: even with my dbs. I go, I don't care if

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Speaker 1: you now open field tackle, look, just find a way

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Speaker 1: to get him, grab him. I don't care. But when

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Speaker 1: you come up towards a line of scrimmage. I used

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Speaker 1: force him to have to stop. I'm blame it on

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Speaker 1: everybody else for bad pursued angles and not helping you.

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Speaker 1: And my thing was, it's about hustle get there. I'd

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Speaker 1: miss fifty tackles, and other people are like, well, fifty tackles.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm exaggerating here I go, because if you don't,

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Speaker 1: if you start getting on him for missing tackles, said

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Speaker 1: that guy getting there a hundred times, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: there too. And he said, Coach, I never missed a tackle,

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Speaker 1: so I want productivity. And you know so to me,

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Speaker 1: that's a great special team Coach. The first guy down

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Speaker 1: recipes Bruce to have. He gave me a chance. Now

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Speaker 1: you talk about tackling. Jordan Brooks is fourth in the league,

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Speaker 1: tied for fourth and tackles. You got two linebackers in

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Speaker 1: the top five. I look at that and I go,

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Speaker 1: is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because

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Speaker 1: that tells me I look at him like, man, that

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Speaker 1: really shows the defense is really out there a long time.

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Speaker 1: Because both of these guys are getting a bunch of tackles.

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Speaker 1: And then I also look at it and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks is the future. I want to see him

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Speaker 1: be involved and make these plays. He has a future.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's aggressive, he's getting better and pass defense too.

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Speaker 1: You go from his system when he was at Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech and basically spied the quarterback. He's a playmaker. He

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Speaker 1: goes sideline to sidelines. Biggie's strong, and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, okay, we're his own team with all the

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Speaker 1: different pattern you know, routes and different formations, and hey,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden goes away. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: scene behind you. I mean, there's so much that goes

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Speaker 1: through a great zone player, and he's gotten better and better.

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Speaker 1: The thing I do like about him and it's and

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Speaker 1: lets them know it. And so look, tackles are tackles.

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Speaker 1: I am not a fan of, oh, you have more

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Speaker 1: well you guys are on the field a lot. You

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Speaker 1: guys have so many plays. And by the way, here's anything.

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Speaker 1: If you have a lot of tackles, why do you

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Speaker 1: not always the case. But so I don't look at

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Speaker 1: You know, today they throw assist as a tackle and

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Speaker 1: Nelson these guys at fourteen, fifteen, twenty tackles and they're

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Speaker 1: you know, five solo fifteen assists. But he's he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a really good player. I actually he is a

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Speaker 1: It's impressive. Yeah, that is impressive. Now let's shift over

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Speaker 1: and they do a lot of what I thought the

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff underneath. They're using Kittle a lot more.

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Speaker 1: This should they put him in the backfield as a

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Speaker 1: running back. You've seen Deebo Samuel back there. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna play this week. They present a big channels on offense.

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Speaker 1: I know, Jimmy g your favorite quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's productive. I mean, you threw it out there a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. He's going to hit in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field. That's just what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: I've seen so many digs in this offense when I

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Speaker 1: What do you think they have to do to kind

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Speaker 1: of set the tone with the Niners coming up? Well,

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Speaker 1: no question, they've got to stop the run first. And

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Speaker 1: what makes Garoppolo so difficult and why when you watch

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Speaker 1: you look at him and go why is that you

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Speaker 1: know it doesn't look that impressive. They run the ball

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Speaker 1: things like that. He's got one of the quickest releases

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Speaker 1: but he's limited. It's between the numbers and you have

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Speaker 1: to protect them. You have to force him to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball outside the numbers. That's the I mean it works.

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Speaker 1: We know that our weakness has been a bit in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, but particularly behind the linebackers

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Speaker 1: with play actions, so we're gonna have to be on it.

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Speaker 1: The good news is, man, we've played them so much,

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Speaker 1: we know how to play them. They rarely dominate us.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've actually dominated them much more even than

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Speaker 1: gonna get healthy. This game is gonna extremely difficult. Their

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Speaker 1: defense is good, they run the ball well, they're playing confident.

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Speaker 1: They might be the best team in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: Really yep, okay, I mean defense too. With a great

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Speaker 1: know it because the Seahawks have done it for so long.

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Speaker 1: And then you're mixing some play action behind it. You

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Speaker 1: just get your quarterback to be efficient. You don't need

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Speaker 1: him to be a world beater, and that's what you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Garoppolo. He's not a world beater. He's

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Speaker 1: got thirteen touchdown six interceptions, but he's been playing better

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Speaker 1: as of late. He's got a quarterback rating of ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: But they can freaking run. They're good at running the ball,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like whoever they put back there finds

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Speaker 1: a way to be successful. Elijah Mitchell twenty seven carries

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three yards one touchdown. The last

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Speaker 1: time the Niners play at Loumanfield, it was Jeff Wilson Jr.

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Speaker 1: Tearing it up. You know, you got most who got

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Speaker 1: hurt at the beginning of the season. They have a

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Speaker 1: scheme that works. I look at these offensive linement they're aggressive, man,

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Speaker 1: they're downhill. Once they get their paws on you. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty much a rap. That D line is gonna be

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Speaker 1: tested this weekend. What do you think of the seely Mitchell?

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Speaker 1: I mean having you know, I don't know much about him,

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Speaker 1: but he's averaging four point eight yards per carry. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: Sam Hill's not playing because he averages eight point one

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Speaker 1: with all that fly sweep stuff. And actually they weren't

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Speaker 1: putting him in the backfield at times too. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of Mitchell? I like him. He's he's fast,

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Speaker 1: way he really feels the zone. You know, when you

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Speaker 1: that wave of lineman, the defensive lineman push to your

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Speaker 1: right as you look for the cutback because you're really

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Speaker 1: just looking for the cutback on his zone right. You're

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Speaker 1: he does a great job doing that. He finishes his runs,

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Speaker 1: he gets downhill. He looks like every other running back

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Speaker 1: Bump is hanging out with my guy Paul Moyer every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. Here's some numbers for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Total offense they are ranked twelfth. We are ranked thirty first.

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Speaker 1: That is twenty fifth. The forty nine to score twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Now that's stubborn. Is that three point nine yards per carry?

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Speaker 1: It's not like you're killing it, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: you know why? Why? Because with Jimmy Garoppolo, you know

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Speaker 1: help us. But also it's how to work, how to

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00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: show up, how to reblocks. It is, no, that's a

425
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: win bringing him in. I wonder how effective he'll be

426
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: in the past game because he's fifteen years now. Maybe

427
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 1: he's been in the league. He's thirty six years old.

428
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: We came in the league at the same time, oh seven,

429
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,479
Speaker 1: so like fourteen years he's been in the league. Yeah, so,

430
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 1: and you lose Travis Homer, who was your best pass

431
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 1: pro guy. You're bringing Adrian Peterson. I mean it's for depth.

432
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 1: I still think Alice Collins is gonna get the bulk

433
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: of the carries. I think DJ is gonna be sprinkling

434
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: in there. You're gonna see some Adrian Peterson. I'm wondering

435
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: how and how often they're gonna use this guy. All right,

436
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna chat with quarterback Seattle

437
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 1: quarterback used to go to Lake Stevens. That's Jacob Eason.

438
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: That's next on Hawks lot. It's Thursday seven thirty. That

439
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: means we get to talk to a Seahawk player in

440
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: this one. I got a special connection with there, Paul Moyer.

441
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 1: Special connection, hey, because he used to whoop my button

442
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: high school. Goodness, gracious, I coached at Monroe High School.

443
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: He went to Lake Stevens. I saw this kid throw

444
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: a football. I knew he'd be playing on Sundays. Jacob

445
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 1: Eaton was good. Hey, coach, Bob, how are you doing?

446
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: Man called your coach? Yeah, I still got a little love. Huh.

447
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: I've never I've never called you that. Absolutely, hey, man, Um,

448
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: just what I want to say. It's been fun watching

449
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: your journey. I know you've had some times doing your

450
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: journey where it's been rough, but you always overcome. And

451
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Man. We played you one year and

452
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: I saw you make a throw off your back foot

453
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: to the other sideline on a rope, and uh, I

454
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: knew there was something special about you. How how have

455
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: you been enjoyed being back in the West, going to

456
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: U dub and now being with the Seahawks. Man, Like

457
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: you said, it's it's real. First of all, it's good

458
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: to be home, and you know, it's good to be

459
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: talking to you know, familiar people again. Um, you know,

460
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: it's been a journey. Like you said, you know, I've

461
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: been back and forth, back and forth, Compson around a

462
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: little bit, but you know I'm still still out here,

463
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, playing the game I love and doing the

464
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: things I love. And yeah, obviously playing for the Hawks

465
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: is exciting, you know, since that hometown team I grew up,

466
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, grew up watching them on Sundays and this

467
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: and that. So you know, it's just a fresh, you know,

468
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: fresh field, fresh team. And you know, I've been here

469
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: for a little bit, so it's not as frush. But um,

470
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: just you know, the overall field's excitement and you know,

471
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: and just you know, positive energy and all good things.

472
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: So it's good. Definitely gonna be hum Now your vikings

473
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: are making noise. Man, they're in the state finals. Um,

474
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: you were a big part in developing that program. How

475
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: satisfying is it to see them continue like the run

476
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: that you guys created so many years ago. You know,

477
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: it's awesome to see those guys continuing, you know. I yeah,

478
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: I like to think, you know, I was. I was

479
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: a big part of that, and I know, you know,

480
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot before me that were as well, Um

481
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: and colch Try and then all these you know people

482
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: on staff up there in that town specifically, you know,

483
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: it's a great place to grow up and play football,

484
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: and it's you know, super devoted fan base and and

485
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: you know all the above. So super proud of those

486
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: boys for you know, what they've accomplished this season. Obviously,

487
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: the state games coming up is a huge one, and

488
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited you know for that match up

489
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: between m and g K and shoot if Ayby my

490
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: senior year when I when I ran out there against

491
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Moses in the in the in the playoffs, and you know,

492
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: high school football is exciting, man, I know, listen, the

493
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: huge opportunities for those guys. So looking forward to checking

494
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: that out and seeing what they can get done. You

495
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: were coming out of high school, I mean you were

496
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: the man, I mean you five star quarterback, I mean

497
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: probably the best quarterback coming out of high school wide. Now,

498
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: because you know, we're bumping eye both West Coast guys,

499
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: we stayed on the West. I went to Arizona State,

500
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: He went to Washington State. The SEC was a little

501
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: bit some noise. I mean, you knew about LSU and

502
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: Auburn and to an extent, Georgia too. What is the

503
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: attraction in the recruiting process on there? And because when

504
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: I was looking at some of the teams that you know,

505
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: you expressed interest of potentially going to, you really didn't

506
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: have any pack twelve teams. Maybe you did, but they

507
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: didn't have it in paper. What is it about the

508
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: SEC attraction? Um? You know over oh, I think you know,

509
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: the SEC is obviously a huge conference. You a lot

510
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: of people call it, you know, the whatever the slogan is.

511
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think it all comes down to,

512
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, what the person you know wants to do, so,

513
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't really I wasn't deciding between

514
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: the Estacy and the Pack twelve. I want to go

515
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: to the University of Georgia because of the staff and

516
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: you know what what their their their football history and

517
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: everything there. You know, I also wanted to challenge myself

518
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: and get out, you know, get out and try something

519
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: new to get my feet wet and something I wasn't

520
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: familiar with. So um, you know, Georgia was you know,

521
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: another great opportunity to do that, and you know, just

522
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of expand my horizons and go meet new people

523
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: and challenge myself in an all new environment. So um,

524
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, the SEC is awesome, you know. So it's

525
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: a PAC twelve. You know, I don't. I don't want

526
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: to get comparisons because I love both and I played

527
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: in both. And you know, college football is college football

528
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: regardless of where you're playing. And see it's a blast.

529
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: So um, you know, no, no comment on the comparison,

530
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: but I think you know that you see is a

531
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: great conference. Pack twelve is a a great conference, and there

532
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: was I was fortunate enough to be able to play

533
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: in both and how to blast doing it. So and

534
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: I know head coaches and the coach and staff is

535
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: an important part. And do you think with SC getting

536
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: Riley and just some of the changes there that you know,

537
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: maybe the Pac twelve has a better chance of keeping

538
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: some of the West Coast talent at home. Yeah. I mean,

539
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, coaches are coaches are thing. You know, obviously

540
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: that's a huge means for SC getting getting Lincoln Riley

541
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But um, you know, like I said before,

542
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: I think if it ld me comes down to you know,

543
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: the recruit where he wants to go. And you know,

544
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: obviously if if he's a homebody or whatever, he grew

545
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: up and and love that, you know, loved that team

546
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: and he'll go there. But I think I think having

547
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: a big name, you know, as a head coach definitely

548
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: might you might have a factor for some people. It's

549
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: just as you know, it's just whatever your taste is.

550
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: So um, hopefully you know, I was one of the

551
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: people who pointed up leaving Washington and coming back so

552
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: and I know coach just made the comment about trying

553
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: to you know, keep the Washington kids and washing and

554
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: said I think he mentioned that. Um, so that's cool

555
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to you know, for the new for

556
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: the newness of the next next upcoming year and then

557
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: you know Bowl season and all that with with the

558
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: with the moves of college football. So really I'm excited

559
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: to watch it all play out and and and uh

560
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: be expected at this point. So now you're back home,

561
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure you go back to Lake Stevens and visit family.

562
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Can you even go out to a restaurant and in peace?

563
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Are you kindstantly getting pictures and autographs and stuff or

564
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: do you kind of stay out of its homage county

565
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: and stay more towards Seattle during the season. Oh yeah,

566
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: well then the season, you know, I'm always uh at

567
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: work and some come down here. But uh, I went

568
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: home for Thanksgiving and I went home, um for a

569
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: night and bye week, and you know, Lake Studens, it's

570
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: always They've never changed. It's always Lake Students, Um. You know,

571
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: in terms of going out to eat and everything, you

572
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: get recognized. It's not so it's crazy um out here,

573
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: which is nice and and you know, obviously you have

574
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, lifelong contractions with these people back home. So

575
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: whenever I do, you know, see people out, it's always

576
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: primarily so um it is really nice. I will say, though,

577
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: to be able to have Lake Stevens, you know right

578
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: there at forty five minutes away in my backyard because

579
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, a want of getting memories there and obviously

580
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: samly close to home or close to where you work

581
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. So um no, in terms of getting

582
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: stopped and then whatnot, it's pretty minimal, um and then

583
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: very friendly. So I'm enjoying it. Hey, so you are

584
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: a high profile athlete coming out of high school. Um,

585
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: while you were in college, what advice would you give

586
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: some of these quarterbacks that are coming up, even a

587
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: guy like Sam Huard who was waiting to be the guy,

588
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: or guys coming out of high school, like, what what

589
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: advice could you give him? I mean, I think the

590
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: biggest thing is is there's so much noise outside of

591
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, outside of the team. You know, for you know,

592
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: a guy like Sam here or you know, anybody, any

593
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: quarterback at a big university. There's so much noise. I

594
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is just put your head down

595
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: and work and you know, everything will everything will work

596
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: out the way it's supposed to work out. Just you know,

597
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: trust your God and go to work and and uh,

598
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, ball out on Saturdays. You know. That's that's

599
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: all I go. I think, just walk out the outside,

600
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: know it as much as possible, and then put your

601
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: head down to work. We're visiting with Jacob Easton and Jake.

602
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: Have you been some really successful programs from high school

603
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: that you went to Georgia University, Washington, Indie. Now you're

604
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: here three or three and eight, which is unusual. Well,

605
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: what is it like there? I mean, you've been around

606
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: some different coaches. How is the mood in the locker room? Well,

607
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: that's one thing that's really really special and cool about

608
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: this team is if you went to work, you wouldn't

609
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: be able to tell her at three and eight or

610
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: eight and three. You know, by the way you know this,

611
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: this locker room and this staff operates, it's always positivity,

612
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: always high energy, always compete in you know, in whatever

613
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: assets that is. And and you know, whether it's in

614
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: meetings or on the practice field of you know, wherever

615
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: we may be, this there's always this this or of

616
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: competitiveness and positivity. So uh, you know, we got a

617
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: lot of great leaders in that locker and obviously a

618
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: great coach and coach Pete so um, the guys, the

619
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: guys are hungry you know the guys are are obviously

620
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: you know we got you got what two games left

621
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: this season and we're gonna let's foot forward and you know,

622
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: attack it. But I don't think that the motto of

623
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: stage at all. So I bringing up on you and

624
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: I played against a quarterback named Tony Easton, Um, and

625
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: I know that's not your father. Your dad did play

626
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: quarterback at Notre damee Um, do do you guys talk?

627
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is there is he still try and coach up?

628
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: What's that relationship? Like? Oh? Yeah, I talked to my

629
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: dad's about every day. But he actually played a wide

630
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: receiver at Notre Dame, so oh he did? Ye see

631
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: my bad? Yeah, the Tony Easton mister conception all it

632
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: happens quite a bit. Actually it's pretty so just funny,

633
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: funny story. But uh, well I have a great, great

634
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: relationship with my pops. He's always been in my back

635
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: pocket and you know he's talking, you know, talk ball

636
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: and yeah we else to talk other things, you know,

637
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: father and something. So um. So it's really nice to

638
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: have that, you know, every every weekend as well. So

639
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: very fortunate to have him and my mom and brother

640
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: and sister whole family. You know, local. Hey, Jacob, Um,

641
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: you got to watch Russell Wilson grow in his career,

642
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: win Super Bowls, local kid, and now you get to

643
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: play with him. One what's that like? And two what's

644
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: something that you've learned from him? I mean it's hard

645
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: to name, you know, one specific thing the guy. You know,

646
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: the guy's a true professional and and every you know,

647
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: every asset. So it's it's pretty special, you know, to

648
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: be a kid who really grew up a Seahawks fan.

649
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously I watched Russell's whole career like

650
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: you just said, and you know, seeing the highest scene

651
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: loos seems how seeing how he's handled every bit of adversity,

652
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's pretty special to be And

653
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: it's in the same building and in the same qpeason

654
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: with him. So um, you know, I'm very fortunate to

655
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: be in this for this thing. I'm very excited to,

656
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully continue this this relationship and and continue

657
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: to develop and grow in this position. And there's not

658
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there better than us to

659
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, to have as an mentor. So Um, the

660
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: biggest thing I think I learned from him is is, uh,

661
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: you know what I just mentioned is his ability to

662
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: overcome adversity and you know, you know, stay stay solid

663
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: through the highs and the loads of a season. It's

664
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. He's not very positive, is he now? He's

665
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: an extremely positive guy. All right, man, take care. Appreciate

666
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: you taking time out of your day. Man, it's been

667
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: fun watching you grow over these years. Many. I appreciate

668
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: your couch. Always always good talking to Yes, sir, thank you.

669
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: We called him skinny back in the day. Yeah, because

670
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: he used to be skinny. Well, he's he's grown. Man. Guys.

671
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: You know wait six six six six two thirty one,

672
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: six two thirty and he does have a candid Yeah.

673
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's got one of the most beautiful arms.

674
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, I put him up against anybody. Yeah, I

675
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: mean that's just you can spend it. You'll get a chance. Eventually,

676
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: we'll seem all right. Coming up next, we'll talk to

677
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: the professor John Clayton. That's next right here. On Hawks

678
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: lost seven forty five on the Thursday nights and listening

679
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: to Michael Bumper's and Paul more morior I said, Moya,

680
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: that's what I called Moyaya called him yay man. That's

681
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: what they all called me when I played Paul Boy.

682
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Ye enough about you, It's all about JC right now,

683
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: John Clay, And how are you doing feeling? Not feeling

684
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling too good. I've been coughing like crazy

685
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. So hopefully I can make

686
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: it through this segment without any problems. Tea, lots of tea, John,

687
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: there you go, lots of tea. Hey Man, what are

688
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? Adrian Peterson Simeon. It's kind of

689
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: like Marshawn Lynch and Robert Thurman a couple of years ago.

690
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean just December, you're down two or three running backs,

691
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: which they have been so much for the last three

692
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: or four years. I mean, I don't think there was

693
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: much more left on the street. So there's a chance

694
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: he can do well. He's a he's a big man.

695
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: He's a big back that hour, even though it didn't

696
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: work out in Tennessee, I think he can do some

697
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: things here in a couple of weeks. Is that I'm sorry?

698
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: Am I asking a question? Sorry about Oh? I don't know.

699
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: Quiet quit quiet on me. I guess more ye more? Yeah,

700
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: there we go. So so John, I'm just curious and

701
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you even know the answer, but

702
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: just get your thoughts. Yeah, you know, Russell, he's saying

703
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: that he doesn't believe the fingers an issue, but I

704
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: it's I've not seen him miss some passes, like he

705
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: asked before. Just just your thoughts on that the finger

706
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: is an issue. I mean, again, he's going to try

707
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: to protect himself as best he can. He's worked so

708
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: hard in putting himself in a position where he could

709
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: come back as early as he can. I mean, you

710
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: give him credit for that. But also it's like, you know,

711
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: some of them misspasses. I mean you have to put

712
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: on the finger. I mean some up but you can say, yeah,

713
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: the offensive line hasn't done a great job, but you

714
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: know the finger has to be affecting him, no question, John,

715
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Were you as disappointed as I was that DK did

716
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: not get a target in the first half? How hard

717
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: is it not to throw it to number fourteen. I've

718
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: been disappointed now for about three to four weeks because

719
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: he's not getting targeted enough. And of course when you

720
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: saw it, and this goes back to the finger and

721
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: the throwing and all that stuff. You saw about three

722
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: or four plays in the second half where he was

723
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: opened down the left side and Russell wasn't even close

724
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: to getting the ball to him. I mean he tried

725
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: to throw it to him, he threw it too high.

726
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: The passes were something that he could not catch, even

727
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: though he's a great jumper, and so they've got to

728
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: find a way to get him and sinc he's too

729
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: valuable of a player. I know he's got forty seven

730
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: catches and I think Lockett has about fifty three. But again,

731
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: you're talk about a guy that last year went to

732
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, is one of the most exciting young

733
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the game of football, and he's not

734
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: getting the ball. John. I'm watching the forty nine ers, Man,

735
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: they starting to look like they did a few years ago,

736
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: and they've got some people health even though they're not

737
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: going to have Warner or Samuel this week. But I

738
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: don't know if, yeah, it'll matter, but I think they're

739
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: hitting on all sounds. Do you think they're legit playoff

740
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: contender and also maybe even pushed to be a Super

741
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: Bowl contender? Not super Bowl contender, no, but I playoff contender. Yeah.

742
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, they've got the sixth seed in

743
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But again, such of the reason of it

744
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: is that there's probably going to be two nine win

745
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: teams that make the playoffs, and so they're sitting there

746
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: right now with one game over five hundred and so

747
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: they do definitely have a chance. But super Bowl team,

748
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: no way. They're not as good as Arizona, They're not

749
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: as good as the Rams, I mean. And then of course,

750
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, the injuries always tend to catch up with them.

751
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, not only are they not having Fred Warner,

752
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: who's the quarterback of their defense, you know, the guy

753
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: who calls the plays, puts everybody in shape, he's got

754
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: the green dot. But also they don't have Dre Greenlaw,

755
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: who just came off the injured list about a week

756
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: or so ago, and he's going to miss the game.

757
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: And then they lose Deebo Samuel, who basically is one

758
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: of the main stays of their offense, both catching the

759
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: ball and running the ball. So they're a little bit vulnerable.

760
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: But in the end, I think they can make the playoffs,

761
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: but not the Super Bowl. John Jordan Brooks is tied

762
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: for fourth in the league when it comes to tackles.

763
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Is that a good thing or a bad thing. And

764
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: do you think he's ready to take over once Bobby's done?

765
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's a good thing. I mean the only

766
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that is their defense is on

767
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: the field for like seventy three seventy four plays a game.

768
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why it's up there. I mean, you know,

769
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: you've got you know, certainly Bobby Wagner sitting at number

770
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: one or number two as far as tackles, and he's

771
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: there every year. But I think it's a good thing

772
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: because he's a good player, and because he's got good

773
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: range and everything else. And I don't know if he

774
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: can take over for Bobby Wagner because Bobby is a

775
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: middle linebacker as opposed to Jordan Brooks, who's an outside linebacker.

776
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: So that might be a little bit of a stretch.

777
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: But in the end, I think that, you know, I

778
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: think he's good and he was a good choice. And

779
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: for all the fans that are critical of how they're

780
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: saying the bad first round picks have been, he's a

781
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: good first round pick. Yeah. The one guy has been

782
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: playing really consistent. I think the most consistent for the

783
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks all year long is certainly Quandre Digs yeah, and

784
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: I think Jamal Ad has been playing very well the

785
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: last really five six weeks. Do you again, And it's

786
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: probably early, but he's digs to me, is next guy

787
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: in line to get an extension? Agree? Do they get

788
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: that done? If not, they put him in the franchise tag.

789
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: They can't afford to lose him. I know in the

790
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl voting he's like number Last week, I think

791
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: he was number two or number three by the fan vote,

792
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: and I think this year or this week he dropped

793
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: down to number six. But again, he's one of the

794
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: best safeties in the league. He's one of the better

795
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: playmakers in the league because he's able to create turnovers

796
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: and make turnovers, do those different things. So they cannot

797
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: let him go on On the positive, what are your

798
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: thoughts on this defense? The last three weeks, they've held

799
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: it close. Yeah, every game they've lost, they've had a

800
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: chance or they've been behind a touchdown in the fourth

801
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: quarter because of the defense. Does this Does his defense

802
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: deserve a bit more love? I think so yeah, because

803
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: again the big problem is is that with the offense

804
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: being as bad as it is, then they get to

805
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter, fourth quarter and they're

806
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: just exhausted, and I think that pays the price. That's

807
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: why they'll give up those fourth round, fourth quarter touchdown

808
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: drives and long drives and things like that. But I

809
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: think there's no question that they've improved. I think you

810
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: can see better play at the cornerback position. I mean

811
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: DJ Wagner coming back from his injury. I was looking

812
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: at his stats, and I think he's only given up

813
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: like thirty six point seven percent of the past is

814
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: thrown against him. That's about as good as you're going

815
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: to get. And so Dj Red I think has done

816
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: a good job. And then of course, you know the

817
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: two safeties are real good, and then you know you

818
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: got some good things going on the defensive line. I

819
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: just wish they can find a way to get Carlos

820
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: done that more involved. Yeah, that's been surprising. I mean

821
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: he only had what four snaps? Four snaps? Yeah, that's

822
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: that's really spring. By the way, John Swanton know, it

823
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: looks like Bump has a little bit of a cold too,

824
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: and he's he's working the tea right now, nice warm tea.

825
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: It seems to be helping him. So because you have

826
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: a little cold, Yeah, I'm going I'm going now to

827
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: Yet what is on your mind, professor, Well, what's on

828
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: my mind is what happened in Tampa today, because here

829
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: you have Antonio Brown, you have his free safety, and

830
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: Mike Edwards and another player that they had fake, fake

831
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: vaccination cards, fake and finally it's like a Antonio Brown

832
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: was lying about it and said, oh no, I've been

833
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: vaccinated and there's not a fake card. Well guess what,

834
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Not only did the league agree, but the players Association agreed.

835
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: They didn't fight it, and so you know he's going

836
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: to be out now three games until December twenty six,

837
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: along with Edwards. And because of that, you know, it's like,

838
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, the great signing had it turned out to

839
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: be last year for Tampa has turned into a disaster

840
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: last year. I mean what, he's only played maybe what

841
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: three or four games or something like that, and now

842
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: he's going to miss three more because of this. I

843
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: mean again, fake fascination vaccination cards. That's absolutely ridiculous. Just

844
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: get vaccinated. Well, John, we're all married men here. We

845
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: know that honesty is the best way to go. He

846
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: should have been on his job. He should have been honest,

847
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. It's time to Talk That Talk

848
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: with Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. You

849
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: know what time it is, It's eight o'clock. It's dark.

850
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: It's dark outside weena Northwest time of Talk That Talk, Moyer,

851
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: I'll get his going. First question I got, will Adrian

852
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: Peterson score a touchdown for the Seahawks before the season

853
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: is over? If you had to ask me that a

854
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, I said no. But having listened

855
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: to Pete Carroll talk about him and just how great

856
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: a shape is and how good he looks, I think

857
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna get some touches. Now. Look, I don't even

858
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: know if he'll be active this week. I think they

859
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: may be Eavenman a week from now. I'm gonna say yeah,

860
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: because I think he's the guy, particularly down by the

861
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: goal line. He look, the guy knows where the end

862
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: zone is. He's a legend. So yeah, I'm gonna say yeah.

863
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yeah. Two because of those same reasons.

864
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: This is ap We know he's old, thirty six years

865
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: old in football. How old are you? I'll be thirty

866
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: six and thirty years old. I'm old in football years.

867
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: That's old. But he is a legend. Like you get

868
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: that man in the football when you're down the goal line.

869
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: There's no thirty two here. If Chris Carson was here,

870
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: then you know what, he gets all the love down there.

871
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: You make sure he gets his money. But you got

872
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: DJ Dallas, you got Alex Collins. Guys who are good

873
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: football players, but they don't have the resume of Ap

874
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: and out of respect right, especially when you're at home.

875
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: You want the toils go nuts. You give Ap the

876
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: ball with a chance to score. He gets in there.

877
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: Imagine how crazy he's gonna be in there. It's wow.

878
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: She'll think about this for a minute. We're three and eight.

879
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: It's been a struggle when they signed him. I get why.

880
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean pennies on IR, Carson's on IR. I mean,

881
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: you know we're down to small numbers there. But you

882
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: know what, it's also brilliant and that you bring somebody

883
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: into everybody gets excited about and you know, we'll talk

884
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: about this more. Who was there a guy that showed

885
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: up on your team or maybe you played against that

886
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: you were in awe of. I guarantee Ap walked in

887
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: the locker room and there were guys going, wow, I know, Turbo.

888
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: He was tweeting out man, I mean, my hero, my hero,

889
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: I aint all the stuff you tweeted out, but my hero.

890
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: So I think it's a brilliant move just to get

891
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: some life back, maybe into practice in the locker room.

892
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: So pretty good, all right? Number two forty nine Ers

893
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: last three weeks won three in a row, and they've

894
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: won four their last five. The last three games of

895
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: average one hundred and seventy eight yards a game. That's

896
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: not even the impressive part to me. It's they've been

897
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: averaging almost forty plus attempts per game. But let's stay

898
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: on the yards, because I think a huge key to

899
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: this game is we've got to shut the running game down. Well,

900
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: the Seahawks chiefense hold the forty nine Ers under one

901
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards this week. This is probably the

902
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: only time you're gonna hear me really go against the Seahawks.

903
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they are washing football team rushed for

904
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two on forty three carries. Sounds familiar.

905
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: That's what the forty nine ers are gonna do. The

906
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: hawkses aren't really great against the run. With teams who

907
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: are decent at it. Watching football team was decent at it.

908
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers, that's what they do. I mean Gibson.

909
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: They just allow Gibson to have his best game of

910
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: the season twenty nine carries one hundred and eleven yards.

911
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 1: I just don't see him doing it. And the messed

912
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: up part is if they don't do it, it says

913
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win this ball game. Because the last

914
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: three games the Niners rush are over one hundred and

915
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: fifty are around there, and they win. So if they

916
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: let them get loose, I don't see it happening for him.

917
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: So you're saying no, saying no, all right? I was

918
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: it kind of almost talked me over there just listening

919
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: to that um. And it's it's mainly the number of rushes,

920
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: and we're a team defensively that's a bend, don't break

921
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: type of defense. You know, we give up twelve thirteen

922
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: play drives and six seven minute drives and that's running

923
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: the football. You don't do it throwing the ball. But

924
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: because Samuel's out and he's a guy that two hundred

925
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: and twenty two hundred and three yards, you know that's

926
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: an extra You know that twenty yards a game type thing.

927
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: And we know the forty nine ers, So well, I'm

928
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: gonna say we're gonna hold him under one fifty because

929
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I know one thing about Pete. When he's determined to

930
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: say hey, we're stopping the run, they usually do. It's

931
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. But I'm gonna say, yes, we're gonna

932
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna hold him under one forty. I hope you're right.

933
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. Okay, next one, will Jordan Brooks

934
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: become an All Pro linebacker. He's fourth in the league

935
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: right now in tackles, Yes he is. And as I've

936
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: mentioned before, it isn't always mean you're having a great year.

937
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: It just means you've got a lot of tackles. I

938
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: don't know where those tackles are they downfield? Their team's

939
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: thrown on you a ton. Are they run tackles they

940
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: passed tackles. I'm gonna say yes, because he's really gotten comfortable.

941
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: He attacks a line of scrimmage. I mean he's our

942
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: one thumper there at linebacker. I mean he will. He'll

943
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: hurt lineman, he'll hurt the running backs, he'll hurt wide receivers.

944
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: His hustle it shows up on film. And now he's

945
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: starting to be productive, and the one thing about his

946
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: tackles matter. I mean, people look at that PFF and

947
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and I think he's playing well. He's

948
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: getting better and past defense. He's gonna have to get

949
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: a couple interceptions and sacks or get some impact plays.

950
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, I mean, it's not gonna be

951
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: this year, but I think maybe in the next couple

952
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: of years that's in play. I'm with you. I see

953
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: it happening. This guy is He's everywhere. I saw him

954
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: scrape down the line of scrimmage get a TfL as game.

955
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: I've seen him in open space make tackles. He ran

956
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: down a receiver and just blew him up last game.

957
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: He's training in the right direction and he's learning from

958
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: one of the best running back excuse me, linebackers to

959
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: ever do it. So I don't see why not. Like,

960
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: like you said, it's not gonna happen this year, but

961
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: in the future, I see it. Yeah, it was. It

962
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: was a good pick. I mean, I liked him coming

963
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: out of college. He's um tough scheme to transition to

964
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. There's so much to learn in the past game,

965
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: and he's getting better and better, and I just I

966
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: see his upside is it just continues to get better,

967
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: all right. One, it's a little off the wall, a

968
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: little away from the Seahawks. Yeah, and I'm kind of shocked.

969
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: I mean, we're even doing this one. But who makes

970
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: a deeper run in twenty twenty one? Tom Brady or

971
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and I it's crazy to even me saying

972
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: that right now? Yeah, it is crazy. Why Because New

973
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: England has a rookie quarterback who is getting it done

974
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: right now. You mash it up with a decent defense,

975
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: they got a chance. Like you look at Tampa Bay.

976
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: You got the goat over there doing this thing with

977
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: his weapons, decent defense. You brought everybody back. They're not

978
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: performing like they did last year. But the thing about Tamba,

979
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: people don't remember they didn't get going into the playoffs. Really,

980
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: they were good during the regular season. The playoffs they

981
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: turned it up. Who's gonna make the furthest run? All right?

982
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: So who was Tampa competing with the Green Bay Packers

983
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: to rams Arizona forty nine ers potentially? I mean Dallas Cowboys,

984
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys and so on the other side, Who who are

985
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: Who's New England competing with Kansas City? It was gotten

986
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: hot again. Yeah, Baltimore, Nah, I mean decent. I mean

987
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: there's no world beaters in the AFC. You know what,

988
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going against the goat. I'm not going against

989
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: the goat. I've done that for twenty years. You know

990
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: what he did, He laughed at me in won seven

991
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. So I'm going with Tom Brady. He's going

992
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: who That's a tough one, you know what I mean.

993
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Tom Brady fan. And Tampa Bays defensive line,

994
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: their front seven is so good. Their secondary is not

995
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: their twentieth in the league past defense. You know, they've

996
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: been inconsistent this year even though they're third offensively, but

997
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: they're twenty three, you know, yards per game rushing the ball,

998
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: which they're not trying to rush it. They rush it

999
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: just to you know, keep you honest along the way.

1000
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm going with New England, going with Mac john And

1001
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: the reason why is Bill Belichick. He gets to the playoffs,

1002
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: you know what he does. I think the competition's easier.

1003
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: The competition NFC is brutal, Yeah it is. I'm going

1004
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: with the big upset. Even though I'm a huge Tom

1005
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: Brady fan. I'm going with Bill Belichick goes farther, and

1006
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: you're not crazy forward. Honestly, these guys have won six

1007
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: in a row, six and row with a rookie quarterback.

1008
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: The things that Belichick, the system he has over there,

1009
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to tying your shoe to put wearing

1010
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: a tie, it works. Guys go over there and they

1011
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: just wait, he had one down year. It says, you

1012
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: know what, let me drive my quarterback. I gave the

1013
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: people what they wanted. Cam Newton was here for a

1014
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: little bit. All right, let's get back to business. And

1015
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. I'm I'm like forty nine

1016
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: fifty when it comes to this, because I really believe

1017
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: in the New England way. They don't have fun, but

1018
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: they win. Boy, they have fun when they win, though

1019
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: they probably don't have fun much in the practicing locker room.

1020
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: But I'll go on a winning team and not have

1021
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: fun any day, all day, all day. All right. When

1022
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: we return, we will go inside the film room. Jamal

1023
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: Adams interception, Russell Wilson finding Freddie Swain, and then Wilson

1024
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: being intercepted on the two point version. We'll break those down.

1025
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: That's next on Hawkslide. Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm

1026
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus with Paul Moyer. We get to go inside

1027
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: the film room and me and Paul really enjoy the

1028
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: film room. If you were a young football player, get

1029
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: to know your opponent, self critique and how do you

1030
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: do that? You hop on huddle, then you watch all

1031
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: the film that you can. This first player, we're gonna

1032
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: break down second interception by Jamal Adams this year on

1033
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: second and nine in the second order, he gets a

1034
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: pick second down and nine. Heineke again with Tom throws

1035
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: down the scene. Logan Thomas ball is picked off by Adams,

1036
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: picks it off downfield. He starts to run, but he

1037
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: had been tagged down and so the Seahawks will take

1038
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: over the ball there as it's popped up in the air,

1039
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas gets blasted by Digs. Ball pops up. Adams

1040
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: makes the interception, his second interception of the season. He says,

1041
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: what you see, Sorry, I was just looking for my leader. Um, look,

1042
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: this is really well played. You know they've got a

1043
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: two by two form, actually got three wide receivers a

1044
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: tight end as well on the left hand side. Um,

1045
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: I can't I don't know if it's complete cover two

1046
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely covered two up top with Jamal Adams.

1047
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: It might be quarters down at the bottom, just the

1048
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: way Sydney Jones runs out on that play. But it's

1049
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: just really well played in the linebackers. The one who

1050
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: did win this thing for us, we do again. I

1051
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: don't love this part. You know, we've got a guess

1052
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: essentially a five man rush, and but we drop one

1053
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: of our defensive tackles, so ends up being just actually

1054
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: we dropped two guys, ends up being a three man rush.

1055
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't love it because you're really just covering air

1056
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: in this situation. But both our linebackers run with the seams,

1057
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: and this one, Bobby Wagner, the guy starts to bend

1058
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: it back to the middle. He does a great job.

1059
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we're running with the seam, we're in the

1060
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: middle of that. We get a tip ball. Jamal Adams

1061
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: is actually on the backside of the way it's thrown.

1062
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: It's a tip ball, and he's in I would say

1063
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: if you just around the football, you'll get interceptions. If

1064
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: you just play the patterns properly, you're gonna get a

1065
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: tip an overthrow every once in a a while. You're going

1066
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: to get a couple interceptions a year just doing that

1067
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: really well played, and we are getting better. I mean

1068
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: we're getting better and pass coverage, it's just taking us

1069
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: a long time. This year, Diggs did something that is

1070
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: so hard to do in the NFL these days. Some back,

1071
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: somebody legally. He put his shoulder in Logan Thomas's chest.

1072
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: He creates that chaos. Jamal Adams is in the right

1073
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: spot is amazing. What happens when you are in the

1074
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: right spot. Bobby is running with the seem like he's

1075
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: supposed to, got Sydney Jones at the bottom running with

1076
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: the vert This is what you ask for right here.

1077
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's always things that we could kind of pickled, right.

1078
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: There's no perfect play. There's always something that you can

1079
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: do better. But this is what this is supposed to

1080
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: look like. And this is why this defense has kept

1081
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: this offense within striking distance every game, even though they

1082
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: give up fifteen sixteen play drives for some reason. Every

1083
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: now and then they'll show up and make plays like these.

1084
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Digs on that play, and you're right.

1085
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean he had to swivel his hips, you know,

1086
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: to get back over to that play when I when

1087
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: I saw it initially and I saw the wide receiver's

1088
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: head snap, I got man, they're gonna call a penalty,

1089
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's perfect form. I gets the

1090
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: shoulder right into this chest again. Good play. We're starting

1091
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: to see more and more of that, all right. This

1092
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: next play the biggest play of the game for Russell Wilson.

1093
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: He finds Freddie Swain for a thirty two yard touchdown

1094
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: with fifteen seconds remaining on the clock. Three receivers right

1095
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: side twenty two. Russ looks pump fake. Now he's gonna

1096
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: let it fly. He's got a man. Sae toutsdown Seahawks

1097
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: right down the middle of the field, and you can

1098
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: hear the Seahawks fans in the stands. Russell Wilson throws

1099
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: a dark swaying right down the middle on a thirty

1100
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: third birthday for Russell Wilson, a thirty two yard touchdown

1101
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: strike and now the Seahawks have to convert two to

1102
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: tie it up. Nothing, nothing is out of reach for

1103
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: number three. Nothing too complicated about this play. These routes combination.

1104
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: They're in a three by one. Three receivers to the

1105
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: offense is right one up top that is DK up top.

1106
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: All they do is run verts. You gotta cover two,

1107
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: might be a might be a Tampa look with that.

1108
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: That's an extra defender in the middle of the field.

1109
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: He does nothing to Freddie swayn Freddy Swayin is the

1110
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: third receiver. He's in the middle of the field. Now

1111
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: Locket runs a go, holds the safety. Judd Evant runs

1112
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: a go. So now you've got three guys running a

1113
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: route on one safety. He's got to choose and be patient.

1114
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: And because he has to choose and be patient, Freddy

1115
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: Swain is able to work the middle of the fill.

1116
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: Late Russell does a great job of stepping up. I

1117
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: think he's looking for DK initially doesn't like it, steps

1118
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 1: up in the pocket, sees eighteen, throws a dime. We're

1119
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: going crazy watching this play. Yeah, when I when I

1120
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: see this play, that's why I don't like cover two.

1121
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: When you get towards the red zone, it's just it's

1122
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: too hard to cover it with the safeties. But I

1123
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: definitely don't like it when they have three wide receivers

1124
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: to one side unless you play a form of Tampa two.

1125
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: And that just means whoever is on the third wide

1126
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: receiver or anybody in that position. They've got to run

1127
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field with them. And it's

1128
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: weird because it looks like it's a safety. He's in

1129
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: position and he just drops coverage. And now Russell is

1130
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: looking to his left. I think he's looking for DK

1131
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: on the left hand side. On the left hand side,

1132
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, he was. Um, you know, that's safety

1133
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: widen because DK took a kind of a try to

1134
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: get an outside release in the corner, went all the

1135
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: way to the sideline. So now that safety is in

1136
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: no man's land. Russell looks him off and there's no

1137
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: one down the middle of the field. I thought Russell

1138
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: was going to run it, but Russell always has his

1139
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: eyes up. He's always looking downfield, and again that's vintage Russell.

1140
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a nice play. I'm just glad

1141
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: glad Freddie caught it so wide open. Man. I've seen

1142
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: good receivers drop those type of footballs. We need more

1143
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: plays like that on offense before you get to the

1144
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: next play. I wish we could take people inside the

1145
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: boardroom suite upstairs and we're watching games in this studio.

1146
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: We went absolutely nuts when Freddie caught that football. We're

1147
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: just fans like y'all. Y'all don't see it behind the

1148
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: scenes where we're going as crazy as everyone at home.

1149
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Is most definitely glad insight. There's the inside right there,

1150
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: inside information all right. Next play, Russell Wilson is intercepted

1151
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks two point conversion to Russ has time,

1152
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: looks looks now. He fires inside, reaching up and intercepting

1153
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zoe. And that's gonna do it,

1154
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller. Russell waited, he had time, he was looking

1155
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: for somebody to come open, and he fired a dart

1156
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: inside that's intercepted in the end zoe. First of all,

1157
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: they played this really well. Talking about Washington football team,

1158
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: that's this play looks like it's initially designed to go

1159
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: to our right. He's certainly looking for I think Gerald

1160
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Everett to go like an arrow into the flat. They man.

1161
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: They play a three on two in this and they

1162
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: play it beautiful, and it's something. I mean, I love

1163
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: this down at the goal line anytime in the red zone.

1164
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: This is a great defense. Now, look, Russell comes backside,

1165
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: and I'd really believe Russell a year ago or when

1166
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: he's confident he hits swaying, because as soon as swaying,

1167
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: he makes an outside release on the left side and

1168
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: then he bends it back into the like an inn

1169
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: or a post, and there's not much room. Right you're

1170
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: on the two yard line there and he's open. But

1171
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: Russell I just whether he didn't see it or he

1172
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: just wanted the way a fraction more for him to

1173
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: get open. And because of that, the safety really a

1174
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: guy who had no business being there, came off one

1175
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: of the guys he was covering and ends up making

1176
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: that play. I think you said it right. It's a

1177
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: confidence throw right here. If Russ is confident, as soon

1178
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: as number sixteen Tyler Lockett flashes across his face, he

1179
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: knows that guy's gonna be open, he throws to the spot,

1180
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: not to the man. Right here, he threw to the man.

1181
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: And when you get down here, there's not a lot

1182
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: of space out there. You gotta throw to the spot,

1183
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: not the man. You gotta anticipate a lot of these

1184
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: throws out here. And then Decay has two guys on him,

1185
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: but they're behind him too, and I'm surprised he's not

1186
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: looking for DK initially on this thing. It takes DK

1187
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: a while to get through all the muck in the

1188
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: middle of the field. You got guys who run with him,

1189
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: two guys on him, but they're on his back hip rush.

1190
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: Just a little late, Like I'm not mad at the decision,

1191
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: just a little late. Yeah, I mean it looks like

1192
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: getting the plays designed. They thought they had some type

1193
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: of man to man situation, so they run a bit

1194
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: of a rub route for Gerald Everett into the flat.

1195
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: They just zoned it off. You know, they just you know,

1196
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: like playing basketball, and you know, once they you know,

1197
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: go to their positions. You know, I'm playing a spot.

1198
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: They played this really well. At the point of attack,

1199
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: Russell came I say, it came back. And here's thing.

1200
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: We've seen Russell do that a million times. Yeah, and

1201
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: that's why I said, Okay, it's just the confidence or

1202
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: just the timing just not quite there. And that's why

1203
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: I said, we're not a bad team. We're just not

1204
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: playing well right now. And that's you know, your record

1205
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. You know, we're three and eight,

1206
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: but that's that's part of it. When an offense is

1207
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: down on the two yard line, I love just crossing

1208
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: guys up right. You make them communicate it there a man,

1209
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: they got to run and get through all this stuff

1210
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. How do you feel

1211
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: about the play call? I like to play. I think

1212
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: they were expecting man, and that's what that play was

1213
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: designed to do. I also know that you like crossing

1214
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: routes as a defensive coach, and I like to play

1215
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of the covers that they did, a combo covers

1216
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: a three on two. So I just let you guys

1217
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: do your thing, you know, and you know, one guy's in,

1218
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: one guy's out, and I'm just kind of zoning that off,

1219
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: and then I pick it up man to man. They

1220
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: played it really well. Now to Russia's credit, he saw

1221
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: it immediately and came backside, and you know, I'm sure

1222
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: he's looking at that one going oh, I should have

1223
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: came back to say just a little quicker and made

1224
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: the throw make you know, just let it go. And

1225
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: that's that's really the difference right now. You know, big

1226
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: plays versus just plays just a little late, and thank

1227
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: you guys for staying up. A little lame. My mom

1228
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: goes to sleep at nine, so eight twenty five it's

1229
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: a little laver. I don't know. She might be listening

1230
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: to mom. If you're listening as I love you all right,

1231
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: we were Terri. We'll go around the NFL. Does Carolina

1232
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: have buyers remorse? Do you still have faith in Lamar Jackson?

1233
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: Are the Rams in bigger trouble than people think? Did

1234
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: Big Ben wait too long to hang them up? We'll

1235
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: let you know next on Hawks Live. Hawks Live every Thursday,

1236
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: seven to nine. Right here on seventeen is in Seattle.

1237
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Michael bumps with Paul Moyer. It's time to go around

1238
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. But we're gonna talk about something real quick.

1239
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: A boby Adrian Peterson is here with the Seattle Seahawks.

1240
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of these young players were like, that

1241
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: is Adrian Peterson. I mean, this guy's been in the

1242
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: league fourteen fifteen years. That's an awe moment. What was

1243
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: your aw moment? A couple of them. My very first

1244
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: awe moment was my second year in the NFL the Seahawks.

1245
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: We lost Kurt Warner first game of the year, and

1246
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: we brought in franko' harris and I was like, man, now,

1247
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: I was not a Pittsburgh Steeler fan. I was a

1248
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: Raider fan. But the immaculate reception, you know, but it

1249
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: was that Wow, I am, I'm playing with Franco Harris

1250
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: and couldn't have been a nicer guy too. I mean,

1251
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: just just unbelievable. Um yeah, some other ones, you know,

1252
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice when we had him, you know, I was

1253
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: doing I want to say, I was doing the sideline

1254
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: stuff at that time, and uh so I got a

1255
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: chance to interview him and that that was that was

1256
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: pretty pretty fun. But the player going up against the player,

1257
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, Yeah, and I played against him when he

1258
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Speaker 1: broke the record. We played in Chicago. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: get that tape. And I just remember the sweetness was

1260
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: so amazing. It's such a great human being too. But

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Speaker 1: you know, to me, honestly, I think he's the greatest

1262
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: running back. And I know that's so subjective, but just

1263
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: the way he played and how he played. And there's

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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: some great Jim Brown and you know, Barry Sanders and

1265
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Emma's I mean there's a bunch of great ones, but

1266
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Speaker 1: something about sweetness that those are my three just wow moments.

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01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: My first one was ross them. He was towards the

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: end of his career, made a living in Atlanta, being

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: a good return guy. I wanted to be a good

1270
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: return guy like Ross them. Saw him my first game,

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Speaker 1: playing against the forty nine ers. I walk up to him.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, this is want to show you love.

1273
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: I've been watching your whole career. He goes, congratulations being

1274
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: pulled up from the practice squad. Wow. I'm like, how

1275
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: do you like you took time to see who's getting

1276
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: pulled up? I mean that that was love right there.

1277
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: My second one was Edrean James. I didn't even know

1278
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 1: he was gonna be on the team. It's my second year.

1279
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: We go into the locker room and I see these

1280
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: these dreads, some gold teeth. You know he made dreads

1281
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: and gold teeth. Okay in the NFL. Right, And then

1282
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: I look at the locker, says e James. I'm like,

1283
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: there's no way that went over chicken sand. Was something man,

1284
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: nice to meet you been following your whole career. Showed

1285
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of love, taught us some gambling games we

1286
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: could play. You know that. That was Franco Harris Johns Burey,

1287
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: And it was it was like this an O G

1288
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: showing a young guy some love. So those are mine.

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Speaker 1: Two While I'm all right I gotta throw two more

1290
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: at you. So you guys know the Tom Brady one

1291
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: when he met him and then you know this is

1292
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: in the prime of his career, but it's probably ten

1293
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: years ago. And how he treated my son second to none.

1294
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: I forever love him. Um, Muhammad Ali. You met Muhammad

1295
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: Ali and got a photo with him. Wow. And we

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01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: did an event and had him and you know, he

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: was he was still able to convert a little bit.

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he was certainly into the Parkinson's disease at

1299
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: that point. But that's one of my favorite photos. And

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: he was just so gracious. And I remember he looked

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: at my wife and it was like he kind of

1302
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: looked at me. I go, yeah, she's pretty high. Oh yeah.

1303
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: He just kind of shook his head. So yeah, that

1304
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: was my moment. All right. I got one more. Gave

1305
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: it to me. It was before I started working here.

1306
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: I got Coach of the Week from the Seahawks when

1307
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: I was in Monroe. Little Flex, so a little Flex

1308
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: Coach of the week. Yeah. So I get invited to

1309
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: a Thursday night game. I believe we're down on the field.

1310
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom. I grew up a forty nine, A fam.

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: I know you guys hate that out there, but I

1312
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: grew up in California, either Raiders or Niners. I was

1313
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 1: a forty nine a fan and I'm walking by. Steve

1314
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: mary Uchi is right there, and I'm like, Steve mary

1315
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: Uge was like the coach, you know, Steve Young, all

1316
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: those those good years over there in forty nins. And

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: I shook his hand. I'm like, a man, I appreciate

1318
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: everything you've done. And he looked at me in the eye,

1319
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: was very humble. I appreciate you and all the support.

1320
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. I walked by to my wife, that's

1321
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: Steve Marry Yuchi right there. Who's that. I'm like, no,

1322
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: worry about it. She goes, why didn't you take a

1323
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: picture with him? I go, you know, it's where on

1324
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: the sideline he's working. I'm not gonna go there with him. Uh.

1325
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: And if there's only a few people I want to

1326
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: take a picture with, well, fanboy out, Kobe Bryan, Michael Jordan,

1327
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: probably Ali. Other than that, I'm like, you're just you're

1328
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you what you're a dude as well. I'd

1329
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: like to have it on my wall, but it's not

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01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: a must one. Yeah, we didn't take a photo of

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01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I asked my sych, Hey, you want to

1332
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: take one? He goes Dad like, you're embarrassing me, and

1333
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm just telling you. You're gonna regret this,

1334
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: like in ten years. And I'm the one who regrets

1335
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, it's Tom Brady. He's the greatest player,

1336
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: least quarterback, but probably the greatest player. And that's different debate. Well,

1337
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the accolades. I mean, he's been the

1338
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: quarterback and you know, seventy seven Super Bowls. It's pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

1339
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to a round. I'm just trying

1340
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: to one up. I'm trying to flex a little now.

1341
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm how many Super Bowls have there been?

1342
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: Like not? All right, let's go around the NFL. This

1343
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: is a good one right here? Does Carolina have buyers remorse?

1344
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: What Cam say? I'm back? Oh no, Paul five for

1345
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: twenty six quarterback righting like two nine? He looked back.

1346
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: You know what was interesting about him? And this is

1347
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: why I think he's done. Um, I've seen him throwing

1348
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: and for a lot of time. Go why he's got

1349
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: a shoulder problem. There's something not right mechanically with him.

1350
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: And I watched him again last week makes some throws

1351
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: and it was I mean it was hard. I mean,

1352
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: this is a big athletic strong man and he could

1353
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: barely throw the ball twenty yards downfield. So yes, I

1354
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: think they have buyers remore. I think there's a lot

1355
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: of incentive clauses built into that. But the guy who

1356
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: played before him played pretty well. Play one, yeah, and

1357
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: now to me, they're they're in a spot. Give PJ

1358
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: a chance. He went five for ten eighty seven yards,

1359
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: won one interception. Cam Newton went five for twenty one

1360
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: ninety two yards, two interceptions. But if you go the

1361
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: game before, I think, is it PJ? You said, yeah,

1362
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: I think he had a pretty good game, like you know,

1363
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: high percentage rate. They won big. Well, they lost to

1364
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: Washington before that. They beat the Cardinals at that game. Yeah,

1365
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: I guess the Cardinals. He was twenty two of twenty nine,

1366
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: one sixty seven one interception. You know, im, but you'll won. Yeah,

1367
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: and then you get it and now you're disrupting it.

1368
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: Bring him Cam in. I thought I thought it was strange.

1369
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: I would have brought Cam in but I said, you know,

1370
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: eight plays. If he's not playing, well, now you're a shot.

1371
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna take him after we just won

1372
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: and we've all rallied together. To me, that's disrupted. I

1373
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: think that's more of a PR move too, though, right,

1374
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: keep keep the fans back in it. Well, Cam was

1375
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: good against the loss against Washington. He was twenty one

1376
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, one eighty nine, two touchdowns. Also ten

1377
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: carries forty six yards one touchdown. So the wheels is

1378
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: really fell off last week that they did. The wheels

1379
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: on the bus. Don't go round and round all the

1380
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: time by yeah, all right, de sa faith in Lamar Jackson.

1381
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no question. The NFL's hard people. It's

1382
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: a hard game. You're going against the greatest athletes in

1383
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: the world. Really smart coaches on every team that I know.

1384
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: You don't always think that's the case, but they are.

1385
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: You don't get to that position without really working for

1386
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: it and showing your medal. Yeah, sometimes you just have

1387
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: bad games and no one's figured him out. No, I mean,

1388
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: it's that's on him. But he can throw it, he

1389
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: can run it. He's still as an offensive coordinator. Not

1390
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: many answers and guess what they still won last week? Yeah,

1391
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: I know it was ugly. Threw four interceptions, one touchdown,

1392
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five yards in the air, sixty

1393
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: eight on the ground, but they still won the football game.

1394
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: Isn't that why we are here to win football game?

1395
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: It's called a coachable moment. We won, yet four interceptions.

1396
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: Don't do it again? Okay? Are the Rams and bigger

1397
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: trouble than people think they are when you start losing.

1398
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: They've lost three, three in a row, four in a row. Yeah,

1399
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: I just we know Stafford and now he's starting to

1400
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: fall into the old trap when he was at Detroit,

1401
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: good arm, good player, good numbers, But now he's starting

1402
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: to have really bad untimely interceptions and turnovers are brutal,

1403
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: and he's had a bunch every game now and it's

1404
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: he's he's a direct reason why they're losing. They've got

1405
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: some injuries, but I'm also defense will be. They're struggling,

1406
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: and that's something I haven't seen. They have the talents,

1407
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: they'll probably flip it at some point. But you start

1408
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: you lose again. Now you start doubting yourself, and you

1409
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: don't ever want to doubt yourself in the NFL's Yeah,

1410
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: they're they're in trouble. Well thankfully they're playing the Jaguars

1411
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: and that helps, so that that's gonna help them. After Dad,

1412
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: they got the Cardinals and the Seahawks than the Vikings

1413
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: and the Ravens, So it's gonna be tough towards the

1414
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: back end of this thing. Yeah, I'm with you. I

1415
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: think they look so good on paper. My goodness, you

1416
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: got Stafford. I think the running back situation is kind

1417
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 1: of iffy with Tony Michelle, but you still got Cooper

1418
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: cup Wood. If Woods was there, I think this team

1419
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: looks a big difference. But you got Odell Beckham, you

1420
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: signed Von Miller, you still got Leonard Floyd. Over there,

1421
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Ramsey, I mean you're looking at you like,

1422
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: how is this team losing like this? Three games in

1423
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: a row. That's tough? All right? Last one? Did Big

1424
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: Ben wait too long to hang him up? Well? I

1425
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh waited too long to hang him up for him.

1426
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: We saw it last year and we saw it early

1427
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: on this year. Even with the Seahawks. You can't throw

1428
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: the ball downfield anymore. It doesn't move. One of his

1429
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: greatest strengths is you couldn't sack him. He was just

1430
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: too big, too strong. He would just stiff arm you away.

1431
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: He didn't have that anymore. M Yeah, it's time, and

1432
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. I mean, you

1433
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: have a hall of fame or a guy who's won

1434
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowls for you, you know, you try to do

1435
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: the right thing, but they're still bit in the hunt.

1436
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: I just yeah, he's just not the answer. This is

1437
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: it for him though, real quick, before we get out

1438
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: of here, Paul, you mentioned Muhammad Ali, and I just

1439
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: felt like our listeners who've been staying up with us

1440
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: this whole night had to be blessed with some Muhammad

1441
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: Ali before we go to break bad been chopping trees.

1442
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: I've done something new for this fight. Out of Russell

1443
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: would the alligator, that's right, I have Russell would the

1444
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: alligator out on tussle with a whale, out of handcuff, lightning,

1445
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: throw thunder in jail, that's bad. Only last week I'm

1446
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 1: murdered the Rock Angel the Stone Hospitaliza Brick. I'm so mean.

1447
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: I make medicine sick fast, fast fast. Last night I

1448
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: cut the light off in my bedroom, hit the switch

1449
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: was in the bedfoll the room was dark, incredible fast. Hey,

1450
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: so they say nineteen seventy nine sugar Hill Game recorded

1451
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: the very first rap song. That was it right there

1452
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: in bars, right there at Moyer. Well, he was gifted

1453
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: obviously as a boxer, but I mean his words is intellect.

1454
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean stuff he went through which today now you

1455
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: become a hero. He yeah, he's an impressive man. Big

1456
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: up some Muhammad Ali. When we return, we'll give you

1457
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: our final thoughts and keys to victory right here on

1458
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: Hawks Live, Hawks Live, trying to put a ball in

1459
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: this thing. Last segment of the night, Thanks for hanging

1460
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: out with is a Michael Bumbas with Paul Boyer. He's

1461
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: the victory. What's your key to victor? I mean it's

1462
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: pretty easy. We need to score more points than them

1463
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: and so solid. Well, I'm gonna make it somewhat simple. Defensively,

1464
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: we just flat out got to stop the run and

1465
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: whatever that mean. I mean, they can't go for one

1466
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: seventy one seventy eight what they've been averaging the last

1467
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: three and I think one of the other ones the Defensively,

1468
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: we're six in the league in points given up per game.

1469
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: But we can't lose this time of possession the way

1470
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: we've been doing. We can't have these six seven minute drive.

1471
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: We can't play just ben ben bend. It's okay, keeps

1472
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: the points down, but it doesn't give the offense an opportunity.

1473
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: We've got to start turning the ball over three and

1474
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: ounce win in some of the field position battle. And

1475
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: that's the part where I just said, Look, we're three

1476
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: and eight, let's just just be more aggressive. Let's be

1477
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: more aggressive than how we jam receivers. Let's be more aggressive,

1478
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: playing some man to man at times. Let's be more

1479
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 1: aggressive than blitzing. We got nothing to lose, and I

1480
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: would do it when they're backed up too. Let's get

1481
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: off the field. Let's see if our offense can get

1482
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: the ball to fifty yard line. And that's where they

1483
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: need to help. And to me, that's the big key.

1484
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it's the same story every week. Be better

1485
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: on third downs. They have five consecutive three and ounces

1486
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: in the second half last week. DK needs more targets.

1487
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: One reception in the fourth quarter is not good enough.

1488
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson needs to be the Russell that we've become

1489
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: accustomed to see and You're right, this defense can't let

1490
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: the rust for one hundred and fifty. So let me

1491
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: ask you this, as we we're three and eight and

1492
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 1: we're not out of the playoffs, and the Seahawks certainly

1493
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: are gonna play like they're not out of the playoffs.

1494
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: But let's say they're out of the playoffs. I mean,

1495
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: realistically they're out of the playoffs. Is this an opportunity

1496
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: for Shane Waldron and russelling them to maybe say, let's

1497
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: let's try some different things now, you know, let's let's

1498
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: let's start looking to next year. Same thing defensively, you know,

1499
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: let's let's start playing some guys. You know, look, I

1500
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: know this may be a little controversial. Let's give Jordan

1501
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: Brooks some time at middle linebacker. He's the future there, right,

1502
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: I know that's kind of blasphemy. Yeah, okay, you don't

1503
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: do that. But Bobby, Bobby plays every down and I

1504
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: think he's played every down on defense this year. But

1505
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, it's just an opportunity to rest him too.

1506
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: I do get concerned about him the number of plays

1507
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: the defense has been on the field and he's been

1508
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: on everyone. You know, it's okay, And I don't know

1509
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: if that'll happen. That's kind of like taking cal Ripken

1510
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. You know, that probably doesn't happen.

1511
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: But I there can be a positive to not to

1512
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: this season the way we finish. I want us to

1513
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: finish strong. I want to find an identity, and I

1514
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: think this is a chance we can actually try some

1515
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: things without worrying about necessarily the end result. I'm okay

1516
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: with them trying things, but I feel like, as long

1517
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: as they are technically in the playoff run, right, that's

1518
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: their mentality, right, that's Pete's mentality, that's Shade's mentality, Ken Norton.

1519
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: So it's hard to be like, all right, let's try

1520
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: something new when we're still in this thing. All right, Well,

1521
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: it's okay to try something new, But personnel wise, I

1522
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: think they can't start experimenting with guys and say, all right,

1523
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: is it gonna be the guy next year? Now you

1524
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: lose this game. In the next game, I think you

1525
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: can start doing that. Yeah, I'm just thinking again more

1526
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: of a philosophy, you know, instead of saying, hey, look,

1527
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and be aggressive defensively when they're backed up,

1528
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: let's not place let's on offense. Let's try and I

1529
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is, but let's go ahead,

1530
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: and let's let's it's fourth and two from the forty,

1531
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: our own forty. Maybe we go for it. Yeah, and

1532
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm serious, And again, I'm not a big believer in

1533
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: going for fourth downs all the time. I mean, again,

1534
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: you go for it and you don't make it, everybody

1535
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: gets mad at you if you don't go for it,

1536
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: and everybody gets mad at you. You know, it's it's

1537
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: it's armchair quarterback money, you know, quarterbacks, all that stuff.

1538
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: But just dial up the aggressiveness just a little bit,

1539
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: because why not. I don't know. I don't know. I'm

1540
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: okay with that. I mean, it's okay to switch it up.

1541
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: You do the same things over and over and expect

1542
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: a different result. That's insanity, right, Um. Offensively, I want

1543
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: to see more combinations. I feel like the combinations are

1544
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: like sometimes like high school stuff, like okay, this is

1545
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,480
Speaker 1: what my high school kids can handle. My quarterback specifically,

1546
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: let's let's run these type of concerts where I look

1547
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: at other offenses and I'm like, well, I like that,

1548
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: But it comes down to protection, because if you want

1549
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: to get creative in these in these uh these concepts,

1550
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to protect. And honestly, russok some

1551
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: hits last week. I went back and looked at it.

1552
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: He's on his button a lot ten quarterback hits the

1553
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: Washing football team had on him. If the line is

1554
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: not going to protect, it's it's kind of hard to

1555
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: be creative on offense. Yeah, no, I I agree with that.

1556
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: You start trying to get these long, intricate routes, you

1557
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: got to be able to protect, and not just protect.

1558
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean if you do a maximum protection and again,

1559
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: if the defense just top proper, all of a sudden,

1560
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: I see everybody block tie end blocked backs are in

1561
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: the in the backfield. So I now know it's a

1562
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: two max three man route, right that defense immediately flips

1563
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: two maxim protection defense, and so I now play this

1564
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: more of a combo man to man coverage. And so

1565
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: you're right, if all of sudden they're taking that away,

1566
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: there's no one to throw too. If I do now

1567
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: put my out you know the drop outlets, you know

1568
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: check downs, Now I don't have to protect. So it's

1569
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: not just an easy fix. Everybody goes, well, why aren't

1570
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: we running these different apps? Well, we better be able

1571
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: to protect long enough, and with that it means I'm

1572
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: going to keep more people in. And if so, it's

1573
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: not a simple answer. You know what else I want

1574
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: to see. I want to see the linebackers carry the

1575
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: seams like they did against that play we broke down

1576
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: against the watching football team, because against the forty nine ers,

1577
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: those seams are going to turn the digs and they're

1578
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: going to cross the middle of the film. If you

1579
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 1: can disrupt that and take away what Jimmy wants to complete,

1580
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: I think you really have a chance. Yeah, I think

1581
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: you have to jam it a little bit. Though. The

1582
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: one thing that we do that if you don't get

1583
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: a pass rush is if you carry the seam and

1584
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: now on my backs to the quarterback and they throw

1585
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: the check down, man, it becomes a ten fifteen yard play.

1586
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: So in zone, I've got to cut it off and

1587
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: still be able to look back into the quarterback right now.

1588
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: If he's not looking, I can start to slough off

1589
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. So there's a lot that goes into

1590
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: that too. But that sounds difficult. It's not difficult to me.

1591
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: It's second nature. But I was taught that my whole life.

1592
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: And I taught that the whole way. Dude. Now, it's

1593
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: not a flex, it's just zone. I feel the receiver.

1594
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: I still got to look at the quarterback of her checkdowns.

1595
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: Play action. Yep, I'm running to take away a route.

1596
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm I may have to go to my turn my back,

1597
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: but that's where again, Hey, you know you call him

1598
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 1: off at that point, there's a safety there, so you know. Look,

1599
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: that's why you get paid to Big Bucks's offensive coordinators,

1600
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: right you guys, see what we're doing. All of a sudden,

1601
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm carrying the seam. I'm running with the weakness

1602
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: of a defense in the three deep zone. Guess how

1603
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: do how do I hurt you? Well, all of a sudden,

1604
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: I have a little late checkdown and I split that

1605
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: for ten fifteen yards. So yeah, I love the way

1606
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett has been inserted into this offensive last couple

1607
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 1: of days, the last couple of weeks. There are three

1608
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: passes that were thrown at him that restous miss. He

1609
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: could have had eight for daying near one hundred yards.

1610
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: If Russell complete those plays. If there's one thing I

1611
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: want them to keep on doing, it's fine ways to

1612
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: get this guy the football. Most guys missed. The first

1613
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: guy usually misses with Gerald Evartt and he's got hands.

1614
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: I think if you throw a Cashubal football, he's gonna

1615
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: make a play. No, look, he was. He's a good signing. Um.

1616
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Russ having three bad games in a

1617
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: row because he's been off. That's just not Russell Man.

1618
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been often some decision making, but certainly accuracy.

1619
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: You know that his release point, I don't know what

1620
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: it is. But when he airmails guy's wide open on

1621
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: third down, that really easy throw. That's not Russ. So

1622
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: I just just third game. I mean, he's back, he

1623
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: should be, you know, I don't know how much that

1624
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: fingers affecting him. I just can't imagine him not having

1625
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: a good game for Russ. I don't know if we're

1626
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: gonna win, but I just I don't think it's gonna

1627
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: be because of Russ. You know what I think is

1628
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: going to happen. One thing I can almost bank on him.

1629
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: I think Diggs is gonna have interception. Okay, I really do,

1630
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: just because the way they work the middle of the field,

1631
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: he's able to freelance and get down hill all those

1632
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: things across the middle of field. I believe he had

1633
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: one against the forty nine ers last time that they played.

1634
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. Um, I think that. Yep, that's

1635
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,919
Speaker 1: what got the party going because he read the incut

1636
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: and they're gonna do it. They're gonna start George Kittle

1637
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: in the backfield, swing them out. They're gonna start George

1638
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: kinna wide even they don't have debos, and they gotta

1639
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: look at Brandon. Iuk. I think I think Diggs is

1640
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: up for a big game. Well, you mentioned Kittle. Keep

1641
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: an eye on him at all costs. He's like Kamara

1642
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: when we played New Orleans. You can't let Kittle beat

1643
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: you because without Samuel, Kittle's the one, you can't let

1644
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: him beat you. All Right, That's gonna do it for

1645
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: us man. That was fun. Paul Moyer, thanks for hanging

1646
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: out with me. And we're just gonna give some love

1647
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: to our moms. Yeah, because I know they're listening. You

1648
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: know they're our biggest fans. Love to the moms. Special

1649
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: thanks to Jacobson and John Clayton for joining the show,

1650
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: our board operator DJ Wilder, our executive producer Nasa Choby.

1651
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: The Hawks pregame show was live this Sunday, starting to

1652
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: at ten am. Until next time, I'm your whole Michael

1653
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: Bumpus with Paul Moyer. We'll be back next week right

1654
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: here on Hawks Loot