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Speaker 1: That night, a twenty six year old protester named Donovan

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Speaker 1: that's not what happened. The people at the front of

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Speaker 1: the march headed in that direction at first, but as

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Speaker 1: the crowd got close to the union building, they made

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Speaker 1: a sudden turn, confusing the police, probably some protesters. The

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Speaker 1: march went on southward for about half an hour, chanting

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Speaker 1: along the way. Soon enough, the crowd arrived at the

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Speaker 1: surprise destination, the Portland Police North Precinct. Only a handful

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Speaker 1: of officers were present when the group of marchers approached

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Speaker 1: the building, and said officers quickly moved inside. As they did,

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00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: hundreds of people chanted quit your Job. Protesters hung out

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Speaker 1: in the precinct parking lot for almost an hour. Officers

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00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: had been so surprised by their arrival that a police

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00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: car was left sitting unattended in the middle of the crowd.

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Speaker 1: It was tagged with graffiti and a bananappeal was placed

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Speaker 1: on its hood, but nothing else. As was inevitable, The

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Speaker 1: police el Red eventually arrived and ordered the crowd to

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Speaker 1: leave under threat of arrest and tear gas. On previous evenings,

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Speaker 1: the crowd would have just stood around, defiant and eating

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Speaker 1: to get all beaten up and gassed, but tonight was different.

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00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: As the el Rad blared threats, people in the crowd

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: yelled b water, echoing a Hong Kong slogan, and the

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Speaker 1: crowd began to move once again back to north mL

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Speaker 1: cable of art fether to follow this direction based offic

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Speaker 1: you to arrest, citation or used of mores, including crowd

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Speaker 1: control munitions. The tactical decision to move after the el

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Speaker 1: rad's warning apparently bamboozled the police, as the nearly five

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Speaker 1: hundred protesters were able to swiftly march north to the

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Speaker 1: completely unguarded p p A building. Dumpsters were overturned to

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00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: block the street, and protesters in black block assembled a

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Speaker 1: makeshift battering ram out of random materials. Nearby. No one

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00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: said anything, but the crowd knew what was about to happen.

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Speaker 1: People were going to enter the Police Union building. Dumpster

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Speaker 1: fires were started to block the police from seeing what

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Speaker 1: was happening. In due time, the el rad arrived and

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Speaker 1: an audibly nervous l RAT operator ordered people not to

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Speaker 1: enter the p p A police here visit the residential area.

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Speaker 1: We noticed criminal activity occurring in this crowd. At the office.

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Speaker 1: You'll be study to arrest up to include crowd control munitions.

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Speaker 1: But for the Portland police it was too little, too late.

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00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: People had already broken through the front door of the

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Speaker 1: police Union building and lit a small fire inside. As

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Speaker 1: soon as the riot police arrived, the crowd began dispersing.

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00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: People had no desire to fight the cops this night.

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00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: They'd achieved their goal and now it was time to run.

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Speaker 1: Like how, police chase the crowd for a few blocks,

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Speaker 1: shooting off tear gas, tackling and arresting anyone they could

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Speaker 1: get their hands on during bullrushes. As the dwindling group

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Speaker 1: of protesters entered residential side streets, it was more difficult

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Speaker 1: for the police to follow and easier for small affinity

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Speaker 1: groups to break off and disperse. It was in these

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Speaker 1: residential streets that the vast majority of protesters six TESSI

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Speaker 1: really lost not only the cops but also the small

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Speaker 1: group of journalists who are jogging to keep up. When

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Speaker 1: we interviewed some folks with the y LS, the Youth

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Speaker 1: Liberation Front, they mentioned this night as a sort of

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Speaker 1: turning point for some protesters. Newer people realized what could

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Speaker 1: be done by a crowd that was cunning and disciplined

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00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: and committed to not getting the pists beaten out of

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Speaker 1: them by the police. Here's the y LS as a reminder.

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Speaker 1: We redumped the audio due to the constant death threats

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Speaker 1: against these literal children. I think eventually people just got

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Speaker 1: burnt out and realized like something had to change, and

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Speaker 1: we did start like making Twitter threads suggesting some changes,

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Speaker 1: and so maybe that push things in that direction. And

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Speaker 1: I think people have started to have been sizing up

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Speaker 1: the opponents more realistically and finding cops may have worked

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Speaker 1: in like the first few days of the uprising, but

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00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: we honestly like in the protests that are happening now,

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00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: they don't have enough resources to like effectively push them back,

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: and the cops have a bunch of experience with crowd controls.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think I think now like since

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Speaker 1: all this time has passed. There's enough points that you

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Speaker 1: can point to and see this was an effective tactic

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Speaker 1: in reference to being water, like the first time p

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Speaker 1: PA was set on fire, the way people were able

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Speaker 1: to move in and out. And I don't remember how

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00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: many people got arrested that night, but it was it

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Speaker 1: was definitely, I mean, it was definitely less than the

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Speaker 1: normal amount. And I think that was the big first

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Speaker 1: instance of people being able to point this tactic used

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Speaker 1: in Portland and be like, see effectiveness. This worked. That's

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00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: got people home safe to an extent. We mentioned quote

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00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: being water a few times now. This was a term

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Speaker 1: for a tactic used during the Hong Kong uprising. It

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Speaker 1: derives its name from a famous Bruce Lee quote that

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong activists repurposed as a guide for how to

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Speaker 1: move in situations where police are chasing you. The quote

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00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: reads like this, be like water making its way through

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Speaker 1: the cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object,

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Speaker 1: and you shall find your way around it or through it.

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Speaker 1: If nothing within you stays rigid outward, things will disclose themselves, empty.

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Speaker 1: Your mind be formless, shapeless, like water. If you put

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Speaker 1: water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put

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Speaker 1: water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You

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Speaker 1: put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now

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00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: water can flow or can crash? Be water, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Here's how the Wire Left describes Portland's process of learning

525
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: to be water. To some extent, it was being exposed

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00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: to the tactics of the Hong Kong protest, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of doctrines weren't really adopted. But I think also

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Speaker 1: there has been a lot of trial and air because

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: people have tried a lot of stuff that didn't work

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00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: and they got their ship fucked, and I just think

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Speaker 1: that has been the best way to learn what works,

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Speaker 1: especially in our unique conditions. I think a big part

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Speaker 1: of people embracing becoming water that as a tactic was

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00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: getting fed up with getting her kicked out of them.

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Speaker 1: Well like like I mean, okay, I mean staying and

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Speaker 1: fighting the police is usually not the right tactical decision

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00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: because in Portland we have an extremely militarized police force

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00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: and they're always going to be better equipped than us.

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00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: That's how it's going to be. And so you have

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Speaker 1: to think about, like what am I what is the

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Speaker 1: risk versus the reward of staying and fighting this cop

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00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: versus just disappearing in the night to fight another day.

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Speaker 1: And I think that goes hand in hand with the

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Speaker 1: decentralization of the movement. When, like you know, when it

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Speaker 1: had like when there were marches with people leading with

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Speaker 1: megaphones walking around and then suddenly the police show up

547
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: and you have your conflict. People didn't have the agency

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Speaker 1: or their own agency to really disappear into the night

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00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: and move on from that. Like people felt obligated to

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Speaker 1: follow somebody. So I definitely think that played a role

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Speaker 1: in Portland moving towards decentralization also played a role in that. Now,

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Speaker 1: my colleague Beatrix is going to explain what happened in

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Speaker 1: downtown Portland in front of the Justice Center in the

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Speaker 1: Federal Courthouse at the same time as the rally at

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Speaker 1: the Portland Police Association. While about five people had gathered

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Speaker 1: in North Portland, don Ju, around a thousand had gathered

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Speaker 1: downtown at the Justice Center and the adjacent Federal Courthouse.

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Speaker 1: Signs reading Unquelled referenced the statement by President Trump days

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Speaker 1: earlier that Portland had been out of control and that

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Speaker 1: federal presence had very much quelled it on the sixte

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security Director Chad Wolfe had made national headlines when

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Speaker 1: he visited Portland and referred to protesters there as violent

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Speaker 1: anarchists sixty times. In a single press statement discussing the

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Speaker 1: use of fireworks by protesters on July four, Wolfe declared,

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Speaker 1: perhaps prophetically, a federal courthouse is a symbol of justice.

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Speaker 1: To attack it is to attack America. Quick historical footnote

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Speaker 1: here in September of a federal judge rule that Chad

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Speaker 1: Wolfe was likely unlawfully serving as acting director of Homeland

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Speaker 1: During Wolf's visit, Mayor Wheeler had said that he and

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Speaker 1: all city officials would refer used to meet with the

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Speaker 1: DHS head if invited. However, the day after wolves visit,

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Speaker 1: the Portland Police Association, had met Chad Wolf without approval

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Speaker 1: from either the mayor or the Police chief. Chief level

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Speaker 1: would not say definitively whether any officers had met with DHS,

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Speaker 1: union headquarters in North Portland was one response to these events.

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Speaker 1: The protests downtown, likewise, were driven by anger over Donovan Labella,

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Speaker 1: federal overreach and the federal snatch fans. While the North

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Speaker 1: Portland crowd was made up of mostly experienced activists, the

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Speaker 1: folks of the Justice Center represented a broader cross section

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Speaker 1: of Portlanders. Several images from the eighteenth went viral, both

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Speaker 1: niche and wide, and locally and would bring more of

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Speaker 1: the city's liberal majority out into the streets. One such

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Speaker 1: video showed a fifty three year old Christopher David, surrounded

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Speaker 1: by tear gas approaching armored federal agents. According to Mr David,

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Speaker 1: a Navy veteran, he wanted to ask the men how

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Speaker 1: they felt about violating their constitutional oath. Instead, the video

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Speaker 1: shows one of the agents gripping his baton two handed

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Speaker 1: like a baseball bat, and smashing it into David's arms

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Speaker 1: and legs five times. Another agent then steps forward and

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Speaker 1: maces David in the face as he stands motionless. He

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Speaker 1: walks away after the attack, middle fingers raised on his

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Speaker 1: broken hands. As of this recording, video of the assault

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Speaker 1: has been viewed more than fifteen million times. Another viral

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Speaker 1: moment came when a group of about forty people calling

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Speaker 1: themselves Moms against police brutality and dressed in white, were

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Speaker 1: horribly tear gassed by federal agents. Videos of the attack

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Speaker 1: incensed thousands of Portlanders and led to the creation of

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Speaker 1: the famous Wall of Moms. Courtney is an indigenous Hawaiian Portlander.

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Speaker 1: She's one of the moms who came out on July eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she recalls, it was like a smaller It

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Speaker 1: wasn't as big as like the after when it started

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Speaker 1: to really take off. It was probably like twenty left

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Speaker 1: at that point, and definitely didn't know what I Like,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what to walk into what I

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Speaker 1: was walking into. I mean, I've been protesting before, especially

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Speaker 1: for like land rights and things like that and what,

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Speaker 1: but not like anything against police brutality and things like that.

643
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, just, you know, we roll up and

644
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: then not even not probably like two or three hours later,

645
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: but like the said, come out and just start shooting

646
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: at us. And that was and I was like the

647
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: frontline then because I didn't know what I was walking into.

648
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't know like what. I had no idea

649
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. I had seen the videos

650
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: the night before, but like I you know, I just

651
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect. I didn't think it was

652
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: going to be as violent as it was. Um. So, yeah,

653
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: that night, like they guessed the ship out of everyone

654
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: as always, but that they actually got hit by like

655
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: rubber bullets that night. I still have a scar from

656
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: like a pepper ball like on my shoulder from the

657
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: first night that I want to now and um oh, yeah,

658
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: that was my that was my first night out. Courtney

659
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: recalls being struck by the extremity of the violence, how

660
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: sudden and overwhelming it all was. I honestly, like I

661
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: just didn't expect. Um, I didn't expect the close range

662
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: shooting first of all. I didn't expect like the amount

663
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: gas that they were using on people. Um. I just

664
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's different when you're like watching it on

665
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: like a stream versus like actually being there in person,

666
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: especially if there was like the line that we were

667
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: standing in the first night that I was there, there

668
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: was probably like seven of us, and they there were

669
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: like ten Feds just shooting at all of us, just

670
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: standing there like trying to like guard yourselves behind an umbrella.

671
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: And they clearly knew that there were like mombs out there,

672
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: because that was the night where we're all like wearing

673
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: yellow and like we were standing out and it was

674
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: majority of us were just females standing there, and they

675
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: just did not get like if they just they just

676
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: did not care. It didn't matter, it didn't matter. And um,

677
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: so that was shocking, definitely, Like I don't think that

678
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: I've processed really anything that's gone on, um and just

679
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: like check it away for another day. But uh yeah,

680
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: it's I just I didn't expect the like the extremity

681
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: of it. Within hours of the first major gassing by

682
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: federal troops, DHS memo was leaked to The New York

683
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Times revealing that the Feds in the courthouse had not

684
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: been properly trained with any of the riot control munitions

685
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: they were using. Instead, the DHS officers had been responding

686
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: to unarmed protesters with military tactics rather than mere dispersal.

687
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: The goal was shock and awe, to shatter all resistance

688
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: with a display of overwhelming violence that would leave its

689
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: targets frightened and broken. Instead, as Costco describes, Portland took

690
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: away a very different message. I felt it felt disgusting

691
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: to me. It felt they I mean, even though I

692
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: knew they worked a military, they felt like the military

693
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: because they all looked like the military. They're all to

694
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: me all looked really young too, and they were very

695
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: uh they're very aggressive and very quick to act in violence.

696
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: To me, they seem more afraid of us than like

697
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: Portland police were you ever seemed afraid of us? And

698
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: so like they I don't know if that made them

699
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: react and fear more, but they were definitely more aggressive,

700
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: and I knew it was going to turn into a circus.

701
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: The following night, July, well over one thousand people filled

702
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: Chapman in Loundsdale, the two parks in front of the

703
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: Federal Courthouse and the Justice Center. The group of moms,

704
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: now in matching yellow t shirts and helmets, numbered in

705
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: the hundreds. It was easily the largest crowd since the

706
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: end of the Rose City Justice daytime marches. Medics came through,

707
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: handing out tear gas wipes and eye flash bottles, and

708
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: the moms linked arms before moving to form a living

709
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: wall facing the fence recently erected around the mark O.

710
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Hatfield's Courthouse. Many of the people who came out that

711
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: night were new to the confrontation downtown. As Dmitria Hester

712
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: describes it, they were greeted as welcome reinforcements because we

713
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: knew all was coming. As black people, we know the

714
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: torture and the abused that the police give us, so

715
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: we were very prepared. We had respirators, we had maths,

716
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: we had helmets. We made sure that all the mom

717
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: had equipment and everything they needed. To get through the night.

718
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: From the open doors of the courthouse, agents and battle

719
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: dress could be seen moving into position in the darkened

720
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: lobby as the Fed's very own el rad warned against

721
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: attempts to damage the fence behind the wall of moms

722
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: in yellow. The rest of the crowd was also getting

723
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: into position, and a chant of Feds go home was

724
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: taken up by hundreds of voices. Unlike the enormous daytime

725
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: rallies from June, this crowd had not come to march.

726
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: After more than an hour of chanting and singing, answered

727
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: by scattered pepper balls and flashbangs from the Feds, a

728
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: few sections of the fence were removed by protesters, and

729
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: soon the whole fence came down. That night, the crowd

730
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: fell back under the ensuing tear gas barrage. Federal agents

731
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: advanced through the park and protesters retreated, but slowly and

732
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: with a smattering of shields and umbrellas blocking some of

733
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: the Federal munitions. The night of Lounsdale and Chapman were

734
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: an unbroken sea of thousands. People worked their way across

735
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: the park with buckets of rubber, squeaky pigs. Speeches echoed

736
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: over the p a from the steps of the boarded

737
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: up Justice Center under the words fed goons out of PDX,

738
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: projected in letters five ft high. The wall of moms

739
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: was joined by a self described wall of Dad's, wearing

740
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: safety orange and equipped with leaf blowers to disperse tear gas.

741
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: Here's Demetria again. The das came with the leaf blowers.

742
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean they came with protection. They guarded us and

743
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: pain disprotecting each other. The shields, too, had multiplied, made

744
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: out of plywood, foam and fifty gallon plastic drums. The

745
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: boards over the courthouse doors and windows had been fitted

746
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: with small hatches, in an echo of the PPB strategy

747
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: from the days of the Justice Center fence. This time,

748
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: when the first tear gas grenades came through the hatches,

749
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: the crowd surged forward. This rush of activity was followed

750
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: by a long, tense slow for two hours. The crowd

751
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: sang and danced, yellow clad moms, forming a kick line

752
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: where the fence had stood only a day earlier. The

753
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: mood was celebratory and fierce. Using sections of chain link, fence, lumber,

754
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: and other debris, members of the crowd wedged shut some

755
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: of the doors and hatches covering the front of the

756
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Federal courthouse. Some people tore at the plywood covering the

757
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: courthouse door with their bare hands. There was no coherent

758
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: strategy to this, but the sentiment was unmistakable. Portlanders were

759
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: no longer on the defensive against the federal occupation. When

760
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: federal agents finally emerged from the building, it was less

761
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: a clean charge and more a series of shoves. After

762
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: a scuffle with protesters, one agent responded by drawing his

763
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: side arm and pointing it at eye level into the crowd.

764
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Protesters backed up, but few people actually left. Instead, they

765
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: fell back slowly. Images of that night are surreal men

766
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: in camouflage and plate carriers playing rifles at the chests

767
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: of teenagers and tank tops and respirators as smoke bombs

768
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: from the crowd mixed with clouds of tear gas and

769
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: HC smoke. The Feds never formed a coherent line, and

770
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: many people remained in the park throughout the first push.

771
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: As the bulk of the crowd waded back into the

772
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: gas and smoke blanketing Loundsdale Park, a shield wall formed

773
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: up in the middle of Southwest Main Street and held

774
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: Elaine remembers it this way, and then the first time

775
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: actually seeing that on the ground, um federal l eos

776
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: coming into shoot at people and the shield wall forming

777
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: up and just holding ground. And it was amazing to

778
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: see how the federal forces didn't seem to know how

779
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: to what to do with people just standing their ground

780
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: and protecting themselves, and so they just were shooting and

781
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: shooting and shooting. And there was this incredible moment where

782
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: suddenly I heard this like it was the farting sounds

783
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: of their peat ball guns that they were shooting pepper

784
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: balls and rubber balls at the protesters with just running

785
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: out of air because the shield wall was holding and

786
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: people were keeping it together and protecting the people behind them.

787
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that many of the federal agents on

788
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: the line were armed within four rifles, those holding the

789
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: shield wall along Southwest Main Street lobbed back gas canisters

790
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: and glass bottles at the officers. Then the shield walls

791
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: started moving forward to the repeated lines fuck you, I

792
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: won't do what you tell me from Rage against the Machines,

793
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: killing in the name. Shockingly, almost miraculously, the Feds started

794
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: falling back. After about ten minutes, the shield line advanced

795
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: to the end of the block and the FEDS withdrew

796
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: to the steps of the court house. On July seventeenth,

797
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Chad Wolf had declared via tweet, we will never surrender

798
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: to violent extremists on my watch. Now. At about one am,

799
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: after one of the most intense nights of federal violence

800
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: thus far, Lonsdale Park was full of people and Chad

801
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: Wolf's Federal agents had scrambled back inside their fortress, low

802
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: on ammunition and clearly rattled. Several DHS agents tried to

803
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: prop close a door that had been shattered by enraged

804
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: mombs and teenagers with skateboards. Others attempted to fire out

805
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: of murder holes, only to be stymied in this by

806
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: teenagers hucking dozens of bottles at their in hands. The

807
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: Feds would push out again that night, but federal charges

808
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: no longer provoked protesters into automatic retreat. Portland had gotten

809
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: a taste of what it felt like to face down

810
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: the violence of federal agents, and they even seem to

811
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: like it. For the next several weeks, the city would

812
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: begin to treat fighting the Feds as a citywide pastime.

813
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: In our next episode, we'll talk about how this dystopian

814
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: side mission became the setting for a national media spectacle,

815
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: how an armed coup took over a rib restaurant and

816
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: so much more. Uh where the grand pops who couldn't

817
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: fathom the obamasist I don't hate America, just to me,

818
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: And she keeps a promisess looking like the sixties. It's crazy,

819
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: a nationwide deja p What my people post to do

820
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: go to schools named after the clan founder were around town?

821
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: Is I don't see why we frown in Native American

822
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: students forced to learn about when o'para Sarah? How is

823
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: that fair? Bro? Some Euros unsung in some months? That's

824
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Speaker 1: getting mon It's built for them. But ain't be all

825
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of monthster we pruke you. The art

826
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: world it is essentially a money laundering business. The best

827
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: fakes are still hanging on people's walls. You know they

828
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: don't even know or suspect that their faces. I'm atle

829
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Speaker 1: Baldwin and this is a podcast about deception, greed and

830
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: forgery in the art world. I just walked in and

831
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,480
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832
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: Of course, art forgeries only happen because there's money to

833
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: be made. A lot of money. I'm listening to how

834
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: what they're paying for these things. It was an incredible

835
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: mands of money. You knew the painting was fake. Um

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