WEBVTT - Everything’s GOLDEN with Mickey Guyton.... (S3 E2 "Politically Erect")

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte? Oh my goodness, everybody, welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Are You a Charlotte? We have a very special guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my first time meeting her. She is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Mickey Guiton. Mickey is a singer songwriter

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<v Speaker 1>who is known for her single what Are You Going

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<v Speaker 1>to Tell?

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<v Speaker 2>Her?

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<v Speaker 1>And Black Like Me? And she became the first black

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<v Speaker 1>woman to ever be nominated in the Best Country Solo

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<v Speaker 1>Performance category. So she is a joy. She's also on

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<v Speaker 1>a show called The Singer, which is China's most competitive

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<v Speaker 1>music show, which has an average of one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million viewers. One hundred and fifteen million viewers. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a country music star. I don't like her, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I look very Are you look amazing? Okay? I love

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<v Speaker 1>your hair, I love your holl loook. My daughter would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, how do I make that happen? I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear all the details? Amazing, I would not have looked

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Well, you look fantastic and I love it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. And do you live here or do you

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<v Speaker 1>live in Nashville? I live here in Nashville. Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so my bed as a lawyer and he practices

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<v Speaker 2>out here. Got it, And so I guess I am

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<v Speaker 2>a Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll get there. We'll get there. You wait, you wait,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get there. But that's great. My publicist and best

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<v Speaker 1>friend also lives in Nashville and here, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>chickens and horses and all this stuff there. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that, but yet. Well, I mean, one day you

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<v Speaker 1>could get that if you want that. That's really why

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<v Speaker 1>she moved there, because she wanted to the land that

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<v Speaker 1>ye have that life back or really I guess for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. But she she missed it, so she

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<v Speaker 1>feels awesome. Yeah, she loves it so much. This is great. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot of flying involved. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>can flight. It's it's tough. Yeah. It could be worse though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be worse. It could be worse. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just in China. That flight was very long. Because you're

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<v Speaker 1>on to show that. I was about this, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got the opportunity. It's basically what I like to describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>The show is called The Singer, and I would describe

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<v Speaker 2>it as like Master Chef for singers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you're getting judged by the audience. There's no judges.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's all professional singers like jesse Ja has done this.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Pooth was there. Wow, a guy a Christian vocalist

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<v Speaker 2>named and Voice winner Jordan Smith was on it, and

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Lambert.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really massive show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was out there for three months and I

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<v Speaker 2>competed with artists from around the world, Chinese artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That was crazy. Wow. I have been to China

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<v Speaker 1>and the jet lag. Oh, it's so painful.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still I've been back for almost a month and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's hard, really hard. It's really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And I even got this like Circadian rhythm. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>the flight Kit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>It works, but I've worked when I was there, But

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<v Speaker 2>when I came back I didn't take it properly.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just done. Yeah, okay, I've seen it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like, no, no, it work. It really does work.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be fighting for your life. That's amazing. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you continue with this show or is it? Are you done?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done? I got second place, got it? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such a My son went with me. Out

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<v Speaker 2>there my husband, and it was just such an.

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<v Speaker 1>Eye opening experience. I can't even imagine being on a

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<v Speaker 1>competition show in it. Yeah. Wow, it was wild. Also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have some kind of insane audience like one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve million people or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Crazy, It was like every week it was like

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<v Speaker 2>singing at the super Bowl every week.

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<v Speaker 1>It was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many people in China and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>getting exposed to such a really cool audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. It gave me gifts amazing. Oh that is one

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<v Speaker 1>thing when you travel in Asia, they give you gifts

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<v Speaker 1>and made me feel like a terrible person. Is all

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<v Speaker 1>I did was bring merch and I was like, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>While they're giving me like one hundred flower bouquets.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. The sweetish thing about Asian culture, don't you think?

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<v Speaker 1>It's very polite? And they also squeal in a very

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<v Speaker 1>high pitched way. Do you want to know my nickname?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me? They started calling me mama, mommy, mommy. I started, God, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so nice. Did they also sometimes cry all.

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<v Speaker 2>The time all the time, like they're very you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it made me really think about you know, especially Asians

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<v Speaker 2>here in America and after experiencing like their hearts and

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<v Speaker 2>the love and the sensitivity and how they wear their

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<v Speaker 2>hearts on their sleeves. It made me think of Asian

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<v Speaker 2>hate so much more out here because.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a sweetness. Yeah, there's a sweetness, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think understood necessarily as a cultural phenomenon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that when we when we did the films,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to Tokyo, I guess it was the second film,

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<v Speaker 1>and first of all, it was next level type production

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<v Speaker 1>to have anything entertainment related. I mean, he rose out

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<v Speaker 1>of a stage like something that you guys do in

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<v Speaker 1>a music world, you know, we rose out of a stage.

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<v Speaker 1>We were terrified. We were like, what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>when you guys out of stage? Then when we got

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<v Speaker 1>to the top, we had to walk down this staircase.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I believe they're Justica and I held hands

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<v Speaker 1>and then while all the meanwhile there I think there's smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>like squealing right the whole time. And then by the

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<v Speaker 1>time we got down there tears tears from the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was so it's so beautiful, sweet and beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do just want to hug everybody, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very warm, warm feeling. Same with the airport. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>people are there with huge gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, at the airport, they're at the hotels, right, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have gifts that Like I said, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a mert shirt, thank you for this bac stemware

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<v Speaker 2>that you just got me literally someone, Yes, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's your merch, I feel like that's nice. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right nice, But it's not Bachara. You can't give it

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<v Speaker 1>backward to everyone, I don't think. And how would you

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<v Speaker 1>carry you? Yeah? Right, yeah, but it is very lovely

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<v Speaker 1>fan experience, and sometimes they'll write you letters that they

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<v Speaker 1>are I mess from Hong Kong. Yeah, it's very, very fascinating. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're going to talk about the second. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what's wonderful about Mickey. She's younger than me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much. I'm not going to ask her,

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<v Speaker 1>but she loves the show. It's so so wonderful, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always happy to meet new people who love the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love to ask people when did you first

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<v Speaker 1>watch it? So I first So I was really.

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<v Speaker 2>Young when Sex and the City came out, so I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to watch it when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've watched all the seasons since I was probably

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty one and forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been a huge part of my life the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I definitely got all dressed up. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the movie theater to see the vie. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I cursed the day you were born. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good line. That was really good. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really great to this day. Thank you, hold up,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up. It says everything that you need to say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I should remember that line more often in my own line.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that is a useful useful lines. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>useful lie, really is. Thank you for reminding me that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't gotten to the movies yet. One day we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to the movies. But luckily we're kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>where you were here to help us with episode three

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<v Speaker 1>h two, which is in my mind when I think back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>true when I'm rewatching, but when I think back of that,

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<v Speaker 1>the heyday, like the amazing part of our show when

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<v Speaker 1>everything jelled and came together. It's season three. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>love season three so much. And when. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to the podcast, but I've been rewatching

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<v Speaker 1>since the beginning, and I was very impressed with season

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<v Speaker 1>one Season two because in my mind, we were still

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<v Speaker 1>finding our elves. It wasn't all together, the writing and

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<v Speaker 1>the acting and the you know everything. And now now

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that all the pieces were there, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some episodes were this or that, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was perfect from start to finish. It's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting from your perspective to hear that, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you're not objective, right obviously, and also you remember

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<v Speaker 2>what it felt like, also more so than the finished product.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like for first season, we filmed the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing without anything airing, which is common now in streaming,

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<v Speaker 1>but back then with regular like TV, you would you

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<v Speaker 1>would be on the air and you would know what

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<v Speaker 1>the fan reaction was, or what the ratings were, or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever thing you cared about. And luckily HBO didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>care about anything, which was great. They just they just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted us to find our way, and they gave us

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<v Speaker 1>space and they were super supportive, you know, which is awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>so rare, so rare in our business, you know, music

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<v Speaker 1>or especially on the TV right, especially now, it's very different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very unusual to have that situation. So we're so

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<v Speaker 1>lucky that we did. But when I look back, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many great things. This is what's funny about

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. Two. This episode it's called Lord Help Us,

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<v Speaker 1>It's called politically erect you guys, Okay, wow. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this episode and in my mind, the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I remember about this episode, we were just back

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<v Speaker 1>to work. So whenever we would just come back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>it was usually February and cold, which I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>about it at all when I was watching this. Often

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<v Speaker 1>when I see it, I'm like, oh, we're freezing right there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, I do think I have

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<v Speaker 1>a cold in it, Like my has a cold in it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I look a little off and my voice is a

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<v Speaker 1>little off, but that's fine. I just you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>me niitpicking. But we I think this week is the

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<v Speaker 1>weeks we would film two episodes at once. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>this week was one hundred hour week. Oh my god. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were just on set like twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 1>all the time until the sun came up, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're trying to talk fast like the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I watched when I was Because this episode is

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Michael Patrick King he was writing. He had

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<v Speaker 1>come on first season to write. Darren had created the

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<v Speaker 1>show Dren Starr, and then Michael Patrick was our second

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<v Speaker 1>writer who came on and he really understood comedy, which

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<v Speaker 1>was great. So he infused everything with a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>comedic jokes and whatnot. I guess, I mean they're not

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<v Speaker 1>joke jokes, yeah, sitcom, but you know, funny, funny things,

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<v Speaker 1>funny moments. Yeah. And like timing, he was about timing

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of like exact timing, which was important. But

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<v Speaker 1>this episode aired for the first time in the year

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, which means we made it probably. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we usually came on in June, Yeah, June eleventh, So

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<v Speaker 1>we started filming in February of that year, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the episode would come on in June. Once we got going.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what we did. We'd go in February pretending

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<v Speaker 1>it was the summer freezing in New York. February, it's freezing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gnarly, and you know what we wear, yeah, tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little girl, really cute thing, thank you. Okay, So here

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<v Speaker 1>we are. We're in Politically Erect now. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what I remember about this is Slattery John Slattery, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was his second episode, and I just remember it

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<v Speaker 1>being just fantastic, right, So then when I rewatched it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is dark. Yeah, I was kind of, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so irrelevant in like kind of a frightening way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I had just so many moments of like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, yeah, you know, and also like just how

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<v Speaker 1>different the world is in ways that we could never

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<v Speaker 1>have seen coming in the air two thousand never.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is so sad, and it makes me just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously we know that our you know, political

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<v Speaker 1>lives have like created this kind of really negative, argumentative,

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<v Speaker 1>divided one thousand culture, which is so bad for the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, i mean, whether we agree or don't agree,

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<v Speaker 1>like the tenor of the conversation is problematic. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>so wild?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that it's like politics, like what that is has

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<v Speaker 2>like divided a country.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I try my hardest not to straight on talk

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<v Speaker 1>about politics. But we have a show call Politically or Correct,

0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's literally about a politician who has it been fantasy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard not to talk about it, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so wild, sane, relevant, and the thing about it is

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting and well, let's just talk about this storyline first,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is like super fascinating. I think, for one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>John Slattery is a fantastic actor and a great guy

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<v Speaker 1>and so fun and so loose, which is what I

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<v Speaker 1>remember and think of, of course, And of course since

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<v Speaker 1>then he's been a Madman and he's amazing and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows him now, which is such a joy to have

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<v Speaker 1>an actor that we all knew because he's in New

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<v Speaker 1>York and Sarah Jessica knew him and everybody knew him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to have him go on to this huge

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<v Speaker 1>success is wonderful. But then to see that he actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of plays an it character and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, it was so natural, like right, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think about mad Men, he also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is an a character. But Slattery's charm is such

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<v Speaker 1>that's it you don't realize, right, Like it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>smooths it over, you know, to where you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>you're handsome and I mean so non threatening. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about non threatening.

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<v Speaker 2>He is threatening, right, but like like when they're good

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<v Speaker 2>looking like that, Yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about you? Definitely something most most definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has the it. He has the it factor for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I don't know that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I would use the word threatening or non threatening.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's so charismatic that in a room you can't

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<v Speaker 1>not be aware of him. You know, in the flag there,

0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.679
<v Speaker 1>you just don't know what color it is, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know if it's good or bad. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean slattery in life, it's good. And that's what's funny

0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.800
<v Speaker 1>about when you watch the show, you're like, oh, no,

0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not good, it's bad the character, no, no bueno.

0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But slattery in life, yes, yes, yes, all the way. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just a joy. So it's really interesting to look

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<v Speaker 1>back because of course you don't remember what's on the

0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.040
<v Speaker 1>screen necessary, right, you remember the vibe you know in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, and you just knew something was coming. You

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't know what it was going to be. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is my other admission about the storyline. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I remembered it was that he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to pee on Carrie, right, But that is not what

0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it is. She wants. He wants her to pee on him.

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<v Speaker 1>What on earth? You know this it's hard to talk about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is the potent the show. Right here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty twenty five, and this show came out in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, one hundred, two thousand with nothing on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we still have trouble talking about it. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I want to ask you about because you're

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<v Speaker 1>younger than me, so to me, when I look at

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<v Speaker 1>our just culture in general around sexuality, it has advanced,

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<v Speaker 1>right in terms of like people are more free to

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<v Speaker 1>be who they are and to like what they like.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, they'll say things like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my kink. It's you know, don't shame it. You know,

0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.840
<v Speaker 1>there's that vibe out there, right, But I mean for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to understand that this what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just because something similar happened to like one

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<v Speaker 2>of my absolute best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, tell us all about it. So I can't name

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<v Speaker 1>her name. Of course she would kill me, but it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>She was dating this guy and I he was a

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<v Speaker 1>little actor, oh handsome, Oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>Like beauty fall really and they were like they just

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<v Speaker 2>came together and like we thought, oh, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>About to be your man, like this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I'm so happy for you. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>all going well until he wanted to sit on her face.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, and he had like, oh, oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't say anything else. Don't say aything else. That's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>What did she do?

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<v Speaker 2>It was something that she could just it was very

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing, like she just couldn't follow through with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I guess that's like, but this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really really important. She knock him like whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you do, but that's not I'm not coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what's so important is you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>have to stand up for what is good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, right this we were not prepared for that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, this is the show, right, this

0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.800
<v Speaker 1>is the thing is that we're going to talk about stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing that I think is important is on

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<v Speaker 1>the one hand, yes, let's not knock people for what

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<v Speaker 1>they like. But on the other hand, don't do something

0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you're uncomfortable with women, especially I feel, do not do

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.760
<v Speaker 1>something you are comfortable with, not ever, ever, wherever the

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.800
<v Speaker 1>camera is, ever do anything that you're not uncomfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>You cay say no and you can leave that situation

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<v Speaker 2>definitely often, especially you know, I'm a millennial, Like we

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<v Speaker 2>we're just taught to kind of keep our mouths shut

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of deal with things.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like, that's true very much so. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of unlearning in my generation for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, I think that's certainly true for my generation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know that we've unlearned it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we have. I think we're trying to unlearn in

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a process. It is a process, like, but that's why

0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About it, right right, and the listeners these stories because

0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've all been in compromising situations and you

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<v Speaker 2>can absolute you get out of that. You can say, no,

0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.399
<v Speaker 2>this is weird. I don't knock it, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>weird for me, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a delicate line. But I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>something as a society that we're kind of learning, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is great because it usually just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh my god or whatever, like the you know,

0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't talk about it, right and not talking about

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it is not helping, you know, Let's talk about it. Definitely. Yeah,

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the joy of our show and our podcast. We

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>must also talk about it on podcasts. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>was so interesting to me. So when we when we

0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.919
<v Speaker 1>start the episode, she says, the voiceover says, so I

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.879
<v Speaker 1>had been dating whatever his name is. Hold on my

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.400
<v Speaker 1>politician Bill Kelly. Bill Kelly, such a politician name for

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. But she's full on in like Jackie O Year,

0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.560
<v Speaker 1>which I love so much. She's got the nice sunglasses.

0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.440
<v Speaker 1>She says, she went shopping. She found a vintage coat. Yes,

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the flowers are in full bloom. We are suddenly in

0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the full bloom carry flower era and it is great.

0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knew. We certainly did not know at

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the time that this was going to be a huge

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that would follow us for thirty years. It never

0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 1>has a left. I know. It's durable. It's a durable

0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll see dress this nowhere. I'm like, well,

0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't wear that because there's a big flower and

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:16.960
<v Speaker 1>it what a bummer. I'd love to wear it, I

0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.240
<v Speaker 1>can't wear it, you know what I mean. It's Carrie right,

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so interesting. But that I love that that became

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, that that because of you who you are,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's something you have to Yeah, I have to.

0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Go through a whole thought process, like oh, that's a

0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.720
<v Speaker 1>carry thing I can't wear. And then I'll think like, oh,

0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.160
<v Speaker 1>well look at this just and they'll be like, oh,

0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.280
<v Speaker 1>see that, Charlotte. But I've been playing for so long while, right,

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.120
<v Speaker 1>But then I'm like, well, do I want to look

0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.720
<v Speaker 1>like Charlotte for that event? Or do I not want

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to look like Charlotte for that event? Those are my

0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:50.199
<v Speaker 1>only two choices because it's a lifetime commitment. It's a

0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.440
<v Speaker 1>lifelong commitment, but it's a commitment that I'm happy to have.

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, I feel like it's a rare, rare thing

0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:58.919
<v Speaker 2>that's lightning in a bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely what you experienced, Definitely.

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 2>It's the phenomena of that and what that did for

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>so many women.

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness. It empowered women so much. I know, we

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.679
<v Speaker 1>had no idea. We had no idea that was going

0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, like, we had no idea, and I stay

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Speaker 1>their lives here in the Sex and the City. I

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know about that, but that's very sweet. But I

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>did also think there was a moment where I'm going

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to jump to the end of their storyline for a second.

0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:31.119
<v Speaker 1>But so basically, here's flattery, his handsome handsome self playing

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this politician, and here's Carrie really like committing to being

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 1>on the campaign trail with him, which I was. I

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't remember that. I was like, she's on the campaign

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>campaign and they're trying to put buttons on her and

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 1>her vintage jacket, you know what I mean. I was

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it was very impressive. So she's somehow just like fully

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.440
<v Speaker 1>in it, which I feel like, this is the first

0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>time that you're seeing her maybe the Justin Threaux character,

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.920
<v Speaker 1>also because she loved his family, but this is the

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.440
<v Speaker 1>first time you're seeing her with someone other than where

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel like, oh, it might work, which is then

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>why it's really sad. Of course when it doesn't work

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 1>because of this thing that he wants her to do

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>or she just can't bring herself to do. But at

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the very end, when he so basically she very sweetly

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>tries to come up with all the other things she

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>could do. She says something like, you know, maybe when

0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 1>we're having sex, we could run some water or tea

0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>some hot tea. Oh my gosh. It made me laugh

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 1>so hard because it was the suitest. She really was

0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to compromise in like the most adorable way, and

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I love the way they filmed it because he's in

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the shower and you can't see his face, and she's

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the bathroom like so sweet, you know, totally,

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and she's so kind of vulnerable, and you can see

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>how much she really likes him, that she's trying to

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.159
<v Speaker 1>make this work out, you know, which is kind of

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like rare for her. I don't know if

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that's true. I feel like it's a little rare for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone other than Big, right, for Big obviously a lot

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>of compromises well, but for other people, we haven't really

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 1>seen that, like it let it go right. She didn't

0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>want to. She didn't want to let it go. She

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:04.439
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make it work out. She wanted to be

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.919
<v Speaker 1>on the campaign trail looking like all Jackieoa. You know.

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 1>It was like a fun part for her to play

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of, so she's trying to make it work and

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.120
<v Speaker 1>then you know, he's silent in the shower for a while,

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and then he moves the shower curtain and he says, oh,

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wanted to tell you something, and he's

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of a bit of a jerk, and she goes,

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>uh huh in her cute little vulnerable face. Uh huh,

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and he says, you know, uh, you know how I

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 1>was telling you. I read the column and you know,

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.120
<v Speaker 1>there are people in my life in the campaign who

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe it was a little much. And she's like, oh,

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and you could just see her wheels exactly, Like what

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.919
<v Speaker 1>what does he mean? And then he says, you know,

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:41.639
<v Speaker 1>they were just thinking that right in the middle of

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 1>a campaign, that I shouldn't be, you know, dating a

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 1>sex columnist. She was like, ah, but wait a minute,

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you wanted me to pee on it exactly. And then

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he says, but nobody knows that, right, and the exactly

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 1>she has the power of her column, which is a

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 1>great thing, but it also so reminded me. In the

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 1>writing this was written by Darren directed my Michael Patrick,

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>we were still battling this kind of sexist reaction to

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>the show, and I feel like that's what they were

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>writing in there, because there were still people who would

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>write articles like, well, this show is silly, but it's

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously caught on. You know, it was always like kind

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>of a hit against it, this is a show about women.

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Because they didn't understand it exactly and because it wasn't

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what they considered Prestige TV, right, Like Prestige

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>TV was about gangsters killing people. No offense to the

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.719
<v Speaker 1>sopranos because we love them, but you know that was

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like serious, you know, Emmy town, let's go right, we

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 1>were the girls talking about sex. So they'd be like, oh,

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you know this show with all these girls, but we

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>don't do that in exactly right, And it was so

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>we battled that for so long, and I felt like

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 1>that was what they were kind of writing in. Also

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like that you could get put down really quickly because

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of that, which is what you see him do to her, like, yes,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm a politician who would like you to pee on me,

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>but I'm still going to dismiss you because you're just

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a sex communist, yes, which is so itck. But also

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I love how they so it's yeah, I agree, I agree,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But I also love how they were. So I feel

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like because we were living these things, you know, as

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a group, because here we are, we loved our show

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>so much. We were so committed. We've got a hundred

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>hour week going on, right, Like no one in our

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>lives has seen us except for ourselves in the show

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 1>and behind the scenes, right, Like that's how committed, Like

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>we love our show so much. Michael Patrick and I

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>were just talking about this with them, just like that

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>we we live in Los Angeles with our families and

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>we leave to go to New York to do the show.

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>That's how much we love it, right, And so then

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>for people to say like that we weren't committed or

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that we weren't somehow do our best, it just hurts,

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you know because.

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Which is wild to me that they would say that,

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 2>but that this episode was very indicative to what you

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>were going through in real life.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I mean always they're always writing something in that way,

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was It's always just funny to me when

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>they write that party, right, I mean, like the critique

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>is like inherent in the plot.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>You know that God Forbid for women are sexy, beautiful, intelligent.

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And have a body that they love and want.

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 2>To date, Like God forbid, that that's something they have,

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and that the fact that they put that down right,

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's I guess that's what film does, right, Like,

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what we try to do when we're

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>lucky enough to get a green light?

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you know what I'm saying? Which is a

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>struggle that also people don't even understand I know.

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>And even like imagine like every year hoping your show

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 2>gets picked back up. That is like such an incredible

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 2>pressure and you sacrificing so much for that.

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>That's true. But I mean I think all of acting

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>is like that, right, So if you're if you're even

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>even in it, you know that's inherent, you know, which

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>is a crazy lifestyle for sure. You never know what's

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>going to happen ever, ever, ever, which is true for

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>everyone in kind of the cosmic says yes, but in

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>actors world, it's like true on a day to day,

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? You could get a

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 1>big job tomorrow, or you could get no job for

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a year, you know, and that's still really true. I

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>mean people think somehow that at some point that's not true. No,

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it's always true. It did never gets better. You just

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>might have money in the bank, which is of course wonderful,

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Right, So, sometimes I have

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 1>trouble sticking to my I do I have a have

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a d D. God, we can jump it back and forth.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I might have a d D. As for sure, okay, sure, okay,

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>for sure, I love it.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 2>If I was reading a book and you confess to

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a murder, I would have never heard it. I could

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 2>just be in my book and I would that's kind

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of wondering. So do you ever need to confess anything

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>to me? Just come to me and I'll read my

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>book and I will literally not hear anything.

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you a question. We're going to get

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get back to the ship, but I

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you a question. Do you feel that

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>this helps your creative life?

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Like talking about yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, it helps

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it the lot of my life, Like I can clean

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole entire house because I have add because I'd

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 2>go from room the room, room to roomed room until

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>like three hours later and then the whole house is clean.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's amazing.

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But it's like I will go to the bathroom

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 2>and go wipe the mirrors down and be like, oh,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I got to put this laundry up. And then I'll

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>go down and go down to the laundry room and

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>put the laundry in and be like, oh, I need

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>to go mop.

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>The floors, and it's just this whole thing. It's terrible,

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but yes, it does. One of the things I think

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>about in terms of, you know, actors and music and

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>all the creative things because we don't have like a

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>regular desk job right where you're having to go to

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the same place every time and do the same thing.

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Even sex and the city, which we've been doing all together,

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, since the year nineteen ninety eight, still very different, right,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>everywhere we went every day is different. You're in a

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>different place, you have different actors, you have different lines.

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you're with the same people, which is a joy

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>as an actor for me at least, But it's you

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>don't get into acting thinking that's going to happen. You

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>get into acting thinking you're going to get this challenge

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>over here and then hopefully this challenge over here, and

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.719
<v Speaker 1>hopefully this challenge over here. And I think that there's

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot to be said for the creative arts and

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>ADHD working well together because also it's so interesting. It's

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of a heightened world, right, Like you're performing. It

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>makes your dopamine, like you get a jolt, right and

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you're up in a heightened world, yes, which I feel

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>like connects.

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you feel that absolutely one thousand percent now

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>that you think about it. And I think having ADHD

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>enables you, like you said to bounce between jobs, and

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like cleaning the house, right, right, Yeah, exactly, You're

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>able to do all these things and compartmentalize, right, your

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>different emotions.

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right at you. And I think about

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>right now, I think about these things. I mean, because

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>apparently I might have adh Yeah, it's all right, I

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely do. Well. I'm glad that you definitely do and

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that you know it for you and that you can

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>use it to channel things. Okay, back to the episode.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Back to the episode. Okay, let me ask you, because

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>this is what I've decided to do now. I like

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to stick with one storyline, right and kind of like

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>suss it out because it's interesting to look at how

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they develop it over the show, right, and what happens.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>And I love I'm curious. Do you love Brady David

0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>David Eigenberg, Steve Brady? I mean you don't. I can

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>tell my face. Oh my god, tell me, no, No,

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I do, I do? I do? Tell me. Do you

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>not think he's right for Miranda? I do think he's

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>right for Miranda. Okay, but sometimes during this episode I

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:17.239
<v Speaker 1>thought he doesn't ye because when he meets, you know,

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>at the party, that's uncomfortable.

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I was really, really really uncomfortable, you know, knowing where

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the show ends up, it makes so much sense that

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>they weren't. They were never going to be right together.

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>It's so fascinating, right because now we know so much

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>more and you're watching it with a different understanding. But

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>also the thing that I think is so First of all,

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Eigenberg is a great actor, great so anytime

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>they're together, I'm very much woud by Hagenberg because Cynthia

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>is a very powerful actor as well, and he more

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>than holds his own with her, you know, so like,

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>for instance, that scene in Bedrury tells her that he

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>loves her first of all, that is the scene when

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he holds her breast in a way that I do

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>not find attractive. And I was very unhappy with him

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and unhappy with everyone on the set that day that

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>they did not protect Cynthia better and I wanted to

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>do it right, like wow, that it was not realizing. Yeah,

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm afraid it might be real life for

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>some people life, you know what I'm trying to say.

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me just like squeeze it. Yeah, Like it looked painful,

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't look no, And I was like, why

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't someone just say just sure it wasn't sexy because

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it hurt.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that might have been also, like I think

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>all of the sex scenes they had together, he always

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>made me feel a little uncomfortable.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's interesting, I feel when I watch Eigenberg. It's

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting for me now because at the time, there's too

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>much going on for me to really think about Eigenberg, right,

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't hardly ever get to work with him,

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I tried to get him on the

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>podcast and he just cannot come because he can't remember

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>anything he says, and he doesn't want to talk about

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>his work, which I find so adorable. Yeah, but part

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>of the reason I think that that is true is

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that he is so unbelievably real.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like we're not watching it because he's so awkward,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's it makes so much sense.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like it's like he's not acting. I know that

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he's acting, and he's a very good actor, but he's

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.479
<v Speaker 1>just so real, and like those sex scenes are so

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>real seeming compared to all the others, especially right, Like

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they're very different. So one look at me like you're

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>in a protective. You're protective mode, which I am too.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Just the squeezing of the breast is just really it

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>really upset me at the time. We're just like I know,

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And I said to Cynthia, I was like, Sin, I

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>am going to come to the set the next time

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that you have a sexy with Ignborg and I'm going

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to have a chat with him. And she was like, no,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not. It was fine because she has no vanity

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>or or self awareness or anything meaning in a good question,

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>totally squeeze him, you know what I mean. I was like, babe,

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>how'd you get through that day? How many times you

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>have to do that?

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot? O sure? Hey. But back to the scene.

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>He tells her in that scene that he loves her

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's so good, and I didn't remember it. I

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was really disqueezing at the boobs, but like I was like,

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen because it's just so good. You

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what he's going to say. It's so

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>good and she's so good. But I did also love

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>before that when he they're walking down the street and

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's all her powerful corporate self and he's

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>his kind of adorable goofy self. And he's talking about

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>how he wants to go steady and she looks, I

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>mean look like he so doesn't read her. Like her

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>face is like no, no, but she doesn't say it.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>She just thinks it, I know, right, I know she

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>always want I.

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Think she always thought her character always thought she deserves

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>something better.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But see, then my question is, and I think it's

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to totally separate from Charlotte's journey, right,

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like what would have been better? I don't know, I know,

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like maybe Blair Underwood.

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was so good, right, I.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Loved their relationship together, so maybe Blinda loved with you

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<v Speaker 2>know Steve of course, like that was one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite things when she was like I love you and.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course of course of course, And I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>that whole were not to that season yet, but that

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they played, the two of them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were so writing, so sot and just just sad sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Side note. We were planning a way to bring Blair

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<v Speaker 1>back to and just like that, I know, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>Dagger to the park, right like Dagger Dagger that we

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to do that. I'm not even going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the wise that we didn't get to do that,

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>but we had a plan. We were so excited, I know, right,

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because we need Blair in everything and everything that we do.

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<v Speaker 1>He was everything right, and I remember at the time

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<v Speaker 1>being so excited we got it. But I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to diminish. I can burg because there's a part of

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<v Speaker 1>me where I feel and I feel like perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everything was so perfect right and he because

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<v Speaker 2>of humans, you're out in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that kind of Harry, even Charlotte out. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though we're very far from finding Harry. When I watched them,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think about the fact that they're different, and

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're different might be a positive. Oh,

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you need someone when you have someone like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy or Miranda's character. She was so strong, so indecisive,

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<v Speaker 2>so independent. She needed someone that annoyed her just enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was so sweet. She was like a puppy dog.

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<v Speaker 1>He is sometimes like a puppy dog, that's true. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a little afraid for him. I feel a

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>little afraid for him. Sometimes he can handle it because

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>peppy dogs like you know, that's true. That's true, but

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, because they had already broken up. They're for

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the first round. We have been season two, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just looks so hurt when they break up that time,

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like so hurt. So I do feel concerned for him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit also, I think because we know where

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it's going. Yeah, so it's hard not to feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit worse. I know, we're like, oh, you'll be fine,

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>well kind of and kind of noteh like it's sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I had a lot of sad and

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>weird feelings watching this particular episode. I tell you, I

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's just my mood today or whatever,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was a lot it was. I think it's

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's so relevant to today. Yeah, and I think

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you're right in a way that you just can't even

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it's even stronger right now, like I do see like

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<v Speaker 1>his resonance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you even see like gen z that are

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<v Speaker 2>in the dating world right now, you felt.

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<v Speaker 1>That when you're watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like that's what I was thinking about, really,

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you know, like women that are liberal

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 2>that you know, we'll go on these dating apps and

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>what you see it's so relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>And compromising, like wanting to compromise, wanting to make you want.

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I genuinely feel like people really do want to

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>meet somebody definitely, and I have to make those considerations.

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a real thing, you know, Yes I do.

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, I see I'm single, So I

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>totally O God, I know I'm single. And you know

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not willing to compromise. You can't.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 2>You can't, You're sure, You're just like, I'm I'm fine

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<v Speaker 2>all by myself.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly. Well, I got my kids, so I I everything.

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>You hear them, you know, Yeah, I told I tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>If my husband and I don't make it, I like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it for me.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I've found Sure you will, you know, I absolutely

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>think we will.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, like I just think about it, like

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 2>like you said, when you have your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, what else do you need? There are things

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>that are missing. Don't get me wrong, absolutely, but you

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 1>know it's like are you going to take time away? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And are you worth it for me to take? Definitely?

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>That's where you are to be like me. The bar Yeah, bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very very all the way in heaven right now, totally,

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Like it's really really high.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it is too much fune talking to you, Mickey,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to have you back. We're gonna keep going,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Join us later in the week for Part

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<v Speaker 1>two about episode three oh two. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>the title again.