1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Oh my goodness, everybody, welcome back to 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Are You a Charlotte? We have a very special guest today. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: This is my first time meeting her. She is amazing. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Her name is Mickey Guiton. Mickey is a singer songwriter 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: who is known for her single what Are You Going 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: to Tell? 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Her? 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: And Black Like Me? And she became the first black 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: woman to ever be nominated in the Best Country Solo 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Performance category. So she is a joy. She's also on 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: a show called The Singer, which is China's most competitive 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: music show, which has an average of one hundred and 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: fifteen million viewers. One hundred and fifteen million viewers. It's insane. 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: She is a country music star. I don't like her, right, 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: I look very Are you look amazing? Okay? I love 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: your hair, I love your holl loook. My daughter would 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: be like, how do I make that happen? I didn't 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: hear all the details? Amazing, I would not have looked 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: like this. Well, you look fantastic and I love it 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: so much. And do you live here or do you 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: live in Nashville? I live here in Nashville. Great. 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so my bed as a lawyer and he practices 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: out here. Got it, And so I guess I am 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: a Charlotte. 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get there. We'll get there. You wait, you wait, 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: we'll get there. But that's great. My publicist and best 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: friend also lives in Nashville and here, and she has 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: chickens and horses and all this stuff there. I don't 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: have that, but yet. Well, I mean, one day you 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: could get that if you want that. That's really why 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: she moved there, because she wanted to the land that 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: ye have that life back or really I guess for 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the first time. But she she missed it, so she 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: feels awesome. Yeah, she loves it so much. This is great. Sometimes. 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of flying involved. Yes, we 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: can flight. It's it's tough. Yeah. It could be worse though, Yeah, 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: it could be worse. It could be worse. I was 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: just in China. That flight was very long. Because you're 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: on to show that. I was about this, so I 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: got the opportunity. It's basically what I like to describe it. 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: The show is called The Singer, and I would describe 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: it as like Master Chef for singers. 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay, and you're getting judged by the audience. There's no judges. 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: But it's all professional singers like jesse Ja has done this. 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: Charlie Pooth was there. Wow, a guy a Christian vocalist 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: named and Voice winner Jordan Smith was on it, and 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Adam Lambert. 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: It's a really massive show. 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: And I was out there for three months and I 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: competed with artists from around the world, Chinese artists. 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Wow. That was crazy. Wow. I have been to China 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: and the jet lag. Oh, it's so painful. 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm still I've been back for almost a month and 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,559 Speaker 2: I'm still exhausted. 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's hard, really hard. It's really hard. 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 2: And I even got this like Circadian rhythm. It's called 59 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: the flight Kit. 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: I've seen it. 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: It works, but I've worked when I was there, But 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: when I came back I didn't take it properly. 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: I was just done. Yeah, okay, I've seen it. I'm 64 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: always like, no, no, it work. It really does work. 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Will be fighting for your life. That's amazing. So do 66 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: you continue with this show or is it? Are you done? 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm done? I got second place, got it? Yeah, yeah, 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: it was me. 69 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: It was such a My son went with me. Out 70 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: there my husband, and it was just such an. 71 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Eye opening experience. I can't even imagine being on a 72 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: competition show in it. Yeah. Wow, it was wild. Also 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't have some kind of insane audience like one hundred 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: and twelve million people or something. 75 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Crazy, It was like every week it was like 76 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: singing at the super Bowl every week. 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: It was insane. 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: There's so many people in China and I was just 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: getting exposed to such a really cool audience. 80 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Wow. It gave me gifts amazing. Oh that is one 81 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: thing when you travel in Asia, they give you gifts 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: and made me feel like a terrible person. Is all 83 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I did was bring merch and I was like, here's 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: a shirt. 85 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: While they're giving me like one hundred flower bouquets. 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Oh. The sweetish thing about Asian culture, don't you think? 87 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: It's very polite? And they also squeal in a very 88 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: high pitched way. Do you want to know my nickname? 89 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Tell me? They started calling me mama, mommy, mommy. I started, God, yeah, 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: that's so nice. Did they also sometimes cry all. 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: The time all the time, like they're very you know, 92 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: it made me really think about you know, especially Asians 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: here in America and after experiencing like their hearts and 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: the love and the sensitivity and how they wear their 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: hearts on their sleeves. It made me think of Asian 96 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: hate so much more out here because. 97 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: There's a sweetness. Yeah, there's a sweetness, and that is 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think understood necessarily as a cultural phenomenon. Yeah, 99 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I know that when we when we did the films, 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: we went to Tokyo, I guess it was the second film, 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: and first of all, it was next level type production 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: to have anything entertainment related. I mean, he rose out 103 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: of a stage like something that you guys do in 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: a music world, you know, we rose out of a stage. 105 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: We were terrified. We were like, what do you do 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: when you guys out of stage? Then when we got 107 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: to the top, we had to walk down this staircase. 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh god, I believe they're Justica and I held hands 109 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: and then while all the meanwhile there I think there's smoke, 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: like squealing right the whole time. And then by the 111 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: time we got down there tears tears from the audience. 112 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was so it's so beautiful, sweet and beautiful, 113 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: and you do just want to hug everybody, you know. 114 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: It's a very warm, warm feeling. Same with the airport. Yes, 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: people are there with huge gifts. 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: Yes, at the airport, they're at the hotels, right, everybody. 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: You just have gifts that Like I said, I was like, 118 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: here's a mert shirt, thank you for this bac stemware 119 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: that you just got me literally someone, Yes, I couldn't 120 00:05:59,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: believe it. 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's your merch, I feel like that's nice. Yes, yes, 122 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: right nice, But it's not Bachara. You can't give it 123 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: backward to everyone, I don't think. And how would you 124 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: carry you? Yeah? Right, yeah, but it is very lovely 125 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: fan experience, and sometimes they'll write you letters that they 126 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: are I mess from Hong Kong. Yeah, it's very, very fascinating. Okay, 127 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: all right, we're going to talk about the second. This 128 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: is what's wonderful about Mickey. She's younger than me. I 129 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: don't know how much. I'm not going to ask her, 130 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: but she loves the show. It's so so wonderful, and 131 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm always happy to meet new people who love the show. 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: And I love to ask people when did you first 133 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: watch it? So I first So I was really. 134 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: Young when Sex and the City came out, so I 135 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: wasn't able to watch it when I was in high school, 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: but I've watched all the seasons since I was probably 137 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: about twenty one and forty two. 138 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Now got it. 139 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: So it's been a huge part of my life the movies. 140 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: Like I definitely got all dressed up. I went to 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: the movie theater to see the vie. It was just 142 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: like I cursed the day you were born. So that 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: was a good line. That was really good. I think 144 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: it's really great to this day. Thank you, hold up, 145 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: hold up. It says everything that you need to say. 146 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: That's true. 147 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: I should remember that line more often in my own line. 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: You know that is a useful useful lines. It's a 149 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: useful lie, really is. Thank you for reminding me that's true. 150 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to the movies yet. One day we'll 151 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: get to the movies. But luckily we're kind of in 152 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: where you were here to help us with episode three 153 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: h two, which is in my mind when I think back, 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is going to be 155 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: true when I'm rewatching, but when I think back of that, 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the heyday, like the amazing part of our show when 157 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: everything jelled and came together. It's season three. Yes, I 158 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: love season three so much. And when. I don't know 159 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: if you listen to the podcast, but I've been rewatching 160 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: since the beginning, and I was very impressed with season 161 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: one Season two because in my mind, we were still 162 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: finding our elves. It wasn't all together, the writing and 163 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: the acting and the you know everything. And now now 164 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: I realized that all the pieces were there, and maybe 165 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: some episodes were this or that, you know what I'm saying. 166 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was perfect from start to finish. It's 167 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: interesting from your perspective to hear that, you know, because 168 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: sometimes you're not objective, right obviously, and also you remember 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: what it felt like, also more so than the finished product. 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: And so like for first season, we filmed the whole 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: thing without anything airing, which is common now in streaming, 172 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: but back then with regular like TV, you would you 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: would be on the air and you would know what 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the fan reaction was, or what the ratings were, or 175 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: whatever thing you cared about. And luckily HBO didn't really 176 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: care about anything, which was great. They just they just 177 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: wanted us to find our way, and they gave us 178 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: space and they were super supportive, you know, which is awesome, 179 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: so rare, so rare in our business, you know, music 180 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: or especially on the TV right, especially now, it's very different. 181 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: It's very unusual to have that situation. So we're so 182 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: lucky that we did. But when I look back, I mean, 183 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: there's so many great things. This is what's funny about 184 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: this episode. Two. This episode it's called Lord Help Us, 185 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: It's called politically erect you guys, Okay, wow. I mean 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: I watched this episode and in my mind, the things 187 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: that I remember about this episode, we were just back 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: to work. So whenever we would just come back to work, 189 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: it was usually February and cold, which I didn't think 190 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: about it at all when I was watching this. Often 191 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: when I see it, I'm like, oh, we're freezing right there, 192 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I do think I have 193 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: a cold in it, Like my has a cold in it. Yeah. 194 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: I look a little off and my voice is a 195 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: little off, but that's fine. I just you know, it's 196 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: me niitpicking. But we I think this week is the 197 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: weeks we would film two episodes at once. I believe 198 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: this week was one hundred hour week. Oh my god. Yep. 199 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: So you were just on set like twenty four hours 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: all the time until the sun came up, Oh my god. 201 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: And we're trying to talk fast like the other thing 202 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: that I watched when I was Because this episode is 203 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: directed by Michael Patrick King he was writing. He had 204 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: come on first season to write. Darren had created the 205 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: show Dren Starr, and then Michael Patrick was our second 206 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: writer who came on and he really understood comedy, which 207 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: was great. So he infused everything with a lot more 208 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: comedic jokes and whatnot. I guess, I mean they're not 209 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: joke jokes, yeah, sitcom, but you know, funny, funny things, 210 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: funny moments. Yeah. And like timing, he was about timing 211 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: and kind of like exact timing, which was important. But 212 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: this episode aired for the first time in the year 213 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: two thousand, which means we made it probably. I think 214 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: we usually came on in June, Yeah, June eleventh, So 215 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: we started filming in February of that year, and then 216 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: the episode would come on in June. Once we got going. 217 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: That was what we did. We'd go in February pretending 218 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: it was the summer freezing in New York. February, it's freezing, 219 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: it's gnarly, and you know what we wear, yeah, tiny 220 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: little girl, really cute thing, thank you. Okay, So here 221 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: we are. We're in Politically Erect now. As I said, 222 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: what I remember about this is Slattery John Slattery, and 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: this was his second episode, and I just remember it 224 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: being just fantastic, right, So then when I rewatched it, 225 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is dark. Yeah, I was kind of, uh, 226 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: it's so irrelevant in like kind of a frightening way. 227 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean I had just so many moments of like, 228 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, you know, and also like just how 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: different the world is in ways that we could never 230 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: have seen coming in the air two thousand never. 231 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: It's so sad. 232 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: It really is so sad, and it makes me just 233 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we know that our you know, political 234 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: lives have like created this kind of really negative, argumentative, 235 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: divided one thousand culture, which is so bad for the country. 236 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: It is, i mean, whether we agree or don't agree, 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: like the tenor of the conversation is problematic. Isn't that 238 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: so wild? 239 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: Yes, that it's like politics, like what that is has 240 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: like divided a country. 241 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. I try my hardest not to straight on talk 242 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: about politics. But we have a show call Politically or Correct, 243 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: and it's literally about a politician who has it been fantasy. Yeah, 244 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: it's really hard not to talk about it, like it's 245 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: so wild, sane, relevant, and the thing about it is 246 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: so interesting and well, let's just talk about this storyline first, 247 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: because it is like super fascinating. I think, for one thing, 248 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: John Slattery is a fantastic actor and a great guy 249 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: and so fun and so loose, which is what I 250 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: remember and think of, of course, And of course since 251 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: then he's been a Madman and he's amazing and everyone 252 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: knows him now, which is such a joy to have 253 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: an actor that we all knew because he's in New 254 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: York and Sarah Jessica knew him and everybody knew him, 255 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: and then to have him go on to this huge 256 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: success is wonderful. But then to see that he actually 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: kind of plays an it character and so. 258 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: Well, right, it was so natural, like right, yeah, that's true. 259 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: And if you think about mad Men, he also kind 260 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: of is an a character. But Slattery's charm is such 261 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: that's it you don't realize, right, Like it kind of 262 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: smooths it over, you know, to where you're just like 263 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: you're handsome and I mean so non threatening. I don't 264 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: know about non threatening. 265 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: He is threatening, right, but like like when they're good 266 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: looking like that, Yeah, like. 267 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: What is it about you? Definitely something most most definitely 268 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: has the it. He has the it factor for sure, 269 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't know that. I don't know 270 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: that I would use the word threatening or non threatening. 271 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: But he's so charismatic that in a room you can't 272 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: not be aware of him. You know, in the flag there, 273 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: you just don't know what color it is, yes, exactly. 274 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: You don't know if it's good or bad. But I 275 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: mean slattery in life, it's good. And that's what's funny 276 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: about when you watch the show, you're like, oh, no, 277 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: it's not good, it's bad the character, no, no bueno. 278 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: But slattery in life, yes, yes, yes, all the way. Yes, right, 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: he's just a joy. So it's really interesting to look 280 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: back because of course you don't remember what's on the 281 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: screen necessary, right, you remember the vibe you know in 282 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: the room, and you just knew something was coming. You 283 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: just didn't know what it was going to be. And 284 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: this is my other admission about the storyline. I thought 285 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: the way that I remembered it was that he wants 286 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: to pee on Carrie, right, But that is not what 287 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: it is. She wants. He wants her to pee on him. 288 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: What on earth? You know this it's hard to talk about, right, 289 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: but this is the potent the show. Right here we are. 290 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty five, and this show came out in 291 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: two thousand, one hundred, two thousand with nothing on it, 292 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: and we still have trouble talking about it. But this 293 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: is what I want to ask you about because you're 294 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: younger than me, so to me, when I look at 295 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: our just culture in general around sexuality, it has advanced, 296 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: right in terms of like people are more free to 297 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: be who they are and to like what they like. 298 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: And you know, they'll say things like, you know, this 299 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: is my kink. It's you know, don't shame it. You know, 300 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: there's that vibe out there, right, But I mean for me, 301 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to understand that this what do 302 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: you think? 303 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, I just because something similar happened to like one 304 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: of my absolute best friends. 305 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh, tell us all about it. So I can't name 306 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: her name. Of course she would kill me, but it's fine. 307 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: She was dating this guy and I he was a 308 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: little actor, oh handsome, Oh no. 309 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Like beauty fall really and they were like they just 310 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: came together and like we thought, oh, this is. 311 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: About to be your man, like this is gonna be 312 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: so good. I'm so happy for you. And it was 313 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: all going well until he wanted to sit on her face. 314 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, and he had like, oh, oh no, no, 315 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: don't say anything else. Don't say aything else. That's horrible. 316 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: What did she do? 317 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: It was something that she could just it was very 318 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: this whole thing, like she just couldn't follow through with that. 319 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Like, I guess that's like, but this is what I 320 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: think is really really important. She knock him like whatever 321 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: it is that you do, but that's not I'm not coming. 322 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's so important is you absolutely 323 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: have to stand up for what is good for you. 324 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: For you, right this we were not prepared for that. No, 325 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: but you know what, this is the show, right, this 326 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: is the thing is that we're going to talk about stuff. Okay, 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: But the thing that I think is important is on 328 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: the one hand, yes, let's not knock people for what 329 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: they like. But on the other hand, don't do something 330 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: you're uncomfortable with women, especially I feel, do not do 331 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: something you are comfortable with, not ever, ever, wherever the 332 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: camera is, ever do anything that you're not uncomfortable with. 333 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: You cay say no and you can leave that situation 334 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: definitely often, especially you know, I'm a millennial, Like we 335 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: we're just taught to kind of keep our mouths shut 336 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: and kind of deal with things. 337 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: You feel like, that's true very much so. I think 338 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of unlearning in my generation for sure. 339 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I think that's certainly true for my generation. 340 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know that we've unlearned it. I don't 341 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: think we have. I think we're trying to unlearn in 342 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: a process. It is a process, like, but that's why 343 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: we talk. 344 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: About it, right right, and the listeners these stories because 345 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: you know, we've all been in compromising situations and you 346 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: can absolute you get out of that. You can say, no, 347 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: this is weird. I don't knock it, but this is 348 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: weird for me, right right. 349 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: And that's a delicate line. But I think that is 350 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: something as a society that we're kind of learning, which 351 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: I think is great because it usually just be like, 352 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, oh my god or whatever, like the you know, 353 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: you can't talk about it, right and not talking about 354 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: it is not helping, you know, Let's talk about it. Definitely. Yeah, 355 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: that's the joy of our show and our podcast. We 356 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: must also talk about it on podcasts. The thing that 357 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: was so interesting to me. So when we when we 358 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: start the episode, she says, the voiceover says, so I 359 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: had been dating whatever his name is. Hold on my 360 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: politician Bill Kelly. Bill Kelly, such a politician name for 361 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: three weeks. But she's full on in like Jackie O Year, 362 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: which I love so much. She's got the nice sunglasses. 363 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: She says, she went shopping. She found a vintage coat. Yes, 364 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: the flowers are in full bloom. We are suddenly in 365 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: the full bloom carry flower era and it is great. 366 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I mean, who knew. We certainly did not know at 367 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: the time that this was going to be a huge 368 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: thing that would follow us for thirty years. It never 369 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: has a left. I know. It's durable. It's a durable 370 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll see dress this nowhere. I'm like, well, 371 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: I can't wear that because there's a big flower and 372 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: it what a bummer. I'd love to wear it, I 373 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: can't wear it, you know what I mean. It's Carrie right, 374 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: it's so interesting. But that I love that that became 375 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: a thing. 376 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that that because of you who you are, 377 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: that that's something you have to Yeah, I have to. 378 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: Go through a whole thought process, like oh, that's a 379 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: carry thing I can't wear. And then I'll think like, oh, 380 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: well look at this just and they'll be like, oh, 381 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: see that, Charlotte. But I've been playing for so long while, right, 382 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, well, do I want to look 383 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: like Charlotte for that event? Or do I not want 384 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: to look like Charlotte for that event? Those are my 385 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: only two choices because it's a lifetime commitment. It's a 386 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: lifelong commitment, but it's a commitment that I'm happy to have. 387 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: Right, Like, I feel like it's a rare, rare thing 388 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: that's lightning in a bottle. 389 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Definitely what you experienced, Definitely. 390 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: It's the phenomena of that and what that did for 391 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: so many women. 392 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: Thank goodness. It empowered women so much. I know, we 393 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: had no idea. We had no idea that was going 394 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: to Yeah, like, we had no idea, and I stay 395 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: their lives here in the Sex and the City. I 396 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: don't know about that, but that's very sweet. But I 397 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: did also think there was a moment where I'm going 398 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: to jump to the end of their storyline for a second. 399 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: But so basically, here's flattery, his handsome handsome self playing 400 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: this politician, and here's Carrie really like committing to being 401 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail with him, which I was. I 402 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: didn't remember that. I was like, she's on the campaign 403 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: campaign and they're trying to put buttons on her and 404 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: her vintage jacket, you know what I mean. I was 405 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: it was very impressive. So she's somehow just like fully 406 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: in it, which I feel like, this is the first 407 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: time that you're seeing her maybe the Justin Threaux character, 408 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: also because she loved his family, but this is the 409 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: first time you're seeing her with someone other than where 410 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, it might work, which is then 411 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: why it's really sad. Of course when it doesn't work 412 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: because of this thing that he wants her to do 413 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: or she just can't bring herself to do. But at 414 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: the very end, when he so basically she very sweetly 415 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: tries to come up with all the other things she 416 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: could do. She says something like, you know, maybe when 417 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: we're having sex, we could run some water or tea 418 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: some hot tea. Oh my gosh. It made me laugh 419 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: so hard because it was the suitest. She really was 420 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: trying to compromise in like the most adorable way, and 421 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: I love the way they filmed it because he's in 422 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: the shower and you can't see his face, and she's 423 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: sitting in the bathroom like so sweet, you know, totally, 424 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: and she's so kind of vulnerable, and you can see 425 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: how much she really likes him, that she's trying to 426 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: make this work out, you know, which is kind of 427 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: I feel like rare for her. I don't know if 428 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: that's true. I feel like it's a little rare for 429 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: anyone other than Big, right, for Big obviously a lot 430 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: of compromises well, but for other people, we haven't really 431 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: seen that, like it let it go right. She didn't 432 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: want to. She didn't want to let it go. She 433 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: wanted to make it work out. She wanted to be 434 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail looking like all Jackieoa. You know. 435 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: It was like a fun part for her to play 436 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: kind of, so she's trying to make it work and 437 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: then you know, he's silent in the shower for a while, 438 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: and then he moves the shower curtain and he says, oh, 439 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to tell you something, and he's 440 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of a bit of a jerk, and she goes, 441 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: uh huh in her cute little vulnerable face. Uh huh, 442 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: and he says, you know, uh, you know how I 443 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: was telling you. I read the column and you know, 444 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: there are people in my life in the campaign who 445 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: feel like maybe it was a little much. And she's like, oh, 446 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: and you could just see her wheels exactly, Like what 447 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: what does he mean? And then he says, you know, 448 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: they were just thinking that right in the middle of 449 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: a campaign, that I shouldn't be, you know, dating a 450 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: sex columnist. She was like, ah, but wait a minute, 451 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: you wanted me to pee on it exactly. And then 452 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: he says, but nobody knows that, right, and the exactly 453 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: she has the power of her column, which is a 454 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: great thing, but it also so reminded me. In the 455 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: writing this was written by Darren directed my Michael Patrick, 456 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: we were still battling this kind of sexist reaction to 457 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: the show, and I feel like that's what they were 458 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: writing in there, because there were still people who would 459 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: write articles like, well, this show is silly, but it's 460 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: obviously caught on. You know, it was always like kind 461 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: of a hit against it, this is a show about women. 462 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: Because they didn't understand it exactly and because it wasn't 463 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: you know what they considered Prestige TV, right, Like Prestige 464 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: TV was about gangsters killing people. No offense to the 465 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: sopranos because we love them, but you know that was 466 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: like serious, you know, Emmy town, let's go right, we 467 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: were the girls talking about sex. So they'd be like, oh, 468 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: you know this show with all these girls, but we 469 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: don't do that in exactly right, And it was so 470 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: we battled that for so long, and I felt like 471 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: that was what they were kind of writing in. Also 472 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: like that you could get put down really quickly because 473 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: of that, which is what you see him do to her, like, yes, 474 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm a politician who would like you to pee on me, 475 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: but I'm still going to dismiss you because you're just 476 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: a sex communist, yes, which is so itck. But also 477 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: I love how they so it's yeah, I agree, I agree, 478 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: But I also love how they were. So I feel 479 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: like because we were living these things, you know, as 480 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: a group, because here we are, we loved our show 481 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: so much. We were so committed. We've got a hundred 482 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: hour week going on, right, Like no one in our 483 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: lives has seen us except for ourselves in the show 484 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: and behind the scenes, right, Like that's how committed, Like 485 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: we love our show so much. Michael Patrick and I 486 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: were just talking about this with them, just like that 487 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: we we live in Los Angeles with our families and 488 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: we leave to go to New York to do the show. 489 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: That's how much we love it, right, And so then 490 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: for people to say like that we weren't committed or 491 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: that we weren't somehow do our best, it just hurts, 492 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: you know because. 493 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: Which is wild to me that they would say that, 494 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: but that this episode was very indicative to what you 495 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: were going through in real life. 496 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: Yep. I mean always they're always writing something in that way, 497 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: but it was It's always just funny to me when 498 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: they write that party, right, I mean, like the critique 499 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: is like inherent in the plot. 500 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: You know that God Forbid for women are sexy, beautiful, intelligent. 501 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: And have a body that they love and want. 502 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: To date, Like God forbid, that that's something they have, 503 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: and that the fact that they put that down right, 504 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: and that's I guess that's what film does, right, Like, 505 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we try to do when we're 506 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: lucky enough to get a green light? 507 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I'm saying? Which is a 508 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: struggle that also people don't even understand I know. 509 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: And even like imagine like every year hoping your show 510 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: gets picked back up. That is like such an incredible 511 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: pressure and you sacrificing so much for that. 512 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: That's true. But I mean I think all of acting 513 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: is like that, right, So if you're if you're even 514 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: even in it, you know that's inherent, you know, which 515 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: is a crazy lifestyle for sure. You never know what's 516 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: going to happen ever, ever, ever, which is true for 517 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: everyone in kind of the cosmic says yes, but in 518 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: actors world, it's like true on a day to day, 519 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? You could get a 520 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: big job tomorrow, or you could get no job for 521 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: a year, you know, and that's still really true. I 522 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: mean people think somehow that at some point that's not true. No, 523 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: it's always true. It did never gets better. You just 524 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: might have money in the bank, which is of course wonderful, 525 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, So, sometimes I have 526 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: trouble sticking to my I do I have a have 527 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: a d D. God, we can jump it back and forth. 528 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: I might have a d D. As for sure, okay, sure, okay, 529 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: for sure, I love it. 530 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: If I was reading a book and you confess to 531 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: a murder, I would have never heard it. I could 532 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: just be in my book and I would that's kind 533 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: of wondering. So do you ever need to confess anything 534 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: to me? Just come to me and I'll read my 535 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: book and I will literally not hear anything. 536 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question. We're going to get 537 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: we're going to get back to the ship, but I 538 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: want to ask you a question. Do you feel that 539 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: this helps your creative life? 540 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: Like talking about yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, it helps 541 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: it the lot of my life, Like I can clean 542 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: a whole entire house because I have add because I'd 543 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 2: go from room the room, room to roomed room until 544 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: like three hours later and then the whole house is clean. 545 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: But it's amazing. 546 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's like I will go to the bathroom 547 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: and go wipe the mirrors down and be like, oh, 548 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: I got to put this laundry up. And then I'll 549 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: go down and go down to the laundry room and 550 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: put the laundry in and be like, oh, I need 551 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: to go mop. 552 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: The floors, and it's just this whole thing. It's terrible, 553 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: but yes, it does. One of the things I think 554 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: about in terms of, you know, actors and music and 555 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: all the creative things because we don't have like a 556 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: regular desk job right where you're having to go to 557 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: the same place every time and do the same thing. 558 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Even sex and the city, which we've been doing all together, 559 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, since the year nineteen ninety eight, still very different, right, 560 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: everywhere we went every day is different. You're in a 561 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: different place, you have different actors, you have different lines. 562 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully you're with the same people, which is a joy 563 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: as an actor for me at least, But it's you 564 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: don't get into acting thinking that's going to happen. You 565 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: get into acting thinking you're going to get this challenge 566 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: over here and then hopefully this challenge over here, and 567 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: hopefully this challenge over here. And I think that there's 568 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot to be said for the creative arts and 569 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: ADHD working well together because also it's so interesting. It's 570 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: kind of a heightened world, right, Like you're performing. It 571 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: makes your dopamine, like you get a jolt, right and 572 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: you're up in a heightened world, yes, which I feel 573 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: like connects. 574 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel that absolutely one thousand percent now 575 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: that you think about it. And I think having ADHD 576 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: enables you, like you said to bounce between jobs, and 577 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: it's like cleaning the house, right, right, Yeah, exactly, You're 578 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: able to do all these things and compartmentalize, right, your 579 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: different emotions. 580 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right at you. And I think about 581 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: right now, I think about these things. I mean, because 582 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: apparently I might have adh Yeah, it's all right, I 583 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: definitely do. Well. I'm glad that you definitely do and 584 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: that you know it for you and that you can 585 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: use it to channel things. Okay, back to the episode. 586 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: Back to the episode. Okay, let me ask you, because 587 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: this is what I've decided to do now. I like 588 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: to stick with one storyline, right and kind of like 589 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: suss it out because it's interesting to look at how 590 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: they develop it over the show, right, and what happens. 591 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: And I love I'm curious. Do you love Brady David 592 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: David Eigenberg, Steve Brady? I mean you don't. I can 593 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: tell my face. Oh my god, tell me, no, No, 594 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: I do, I do? I do? Tell me. Do you 595 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: not think he's right for Miranda? I do think he's 596 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: right for Miranda. Okay, but sometimes during this episode I 597 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: thought he doesn't ye because when he meets, you know, 598 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: at the party, that's uncomfortable. 599 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: I was really, really really uncomfortable, you know, knowing where 600 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: the show ends up, it makes so much sense that 601 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: they weren't. They were never going to be right together. 602 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: It's so fascinating, right because now we know so much 603 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: more and you're watching it with a different understanding. But 604 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: also the thing that I think is so First of all, 605 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: I think Eigenberg is a great actor, great so anytime 606 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: they're together, I'm very much woud by Hagenberg because Cynthia 607 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: is a very powerful actor as well, and he more 608 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: than holds his own with her, you know, so like, 609 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: for instance, that scene in Bedrury tells her that he 610 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: loves her first of all, that is the scene when 611 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: he holds her breast in a way that I do 612 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: not find attractive. And I was very unhappy with him 613 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: and unhappy with everyone on the set that day that 614 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: they did not protect Cynthia better and I wanted to 615 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: do it right, like wow, that it was not realizing. Yeah, 616 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm afraid it might be real life for 617 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: some people life, you know what I'm trying to say. 618 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: Let me just like squeeze it. Yeah, Like it looked painful, 619 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: but it didn't look no, And I was like, why 620 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: didn't someone just say just sure it wasn't sexy because 621 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: it looked like it hurt. 622 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: I think that might have been also, like I think 623 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: all of the sex scenes they had together, he always 624 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: made me feel a little uncomfortable. 625 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting, I feel when I watch Eigenberg. It's 626 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: interesting for me now because at the time, there's too 627 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: much going on for me to really think about Eigenberg, right, 628 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: And I didn't hardly ever get to work with him, 629 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, And I tried to get him on the 630 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: podcast and he just cannot come because he can't remember 631 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: anything he says, and he doesn't want to talk about 632 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: his work, which I find so adorable. Yeah, but part 633 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: of the reason I think that that is true is 634 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: that he is so unbelievably real. 635 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we're not watching it because he's so awkward, 636 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: and it's it makes so much sense. 637 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: Right, Like it's like he's not acting. I know that 638 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: he's acting, and he's a very good actor, but he's 639 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: just so real, and like those sex scenes are so 640 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: real seeming compared to all the others, especially right, Like 641 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: they're very different. So one look at me like you're 642 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: in a protective. You're protective mode, which I am too. 643 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: Just the squeezing of the breast is just really it 644 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: really upset me at the time. We're just like I know, 645 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: And I said to Cynthia, I was like, Sin, I 646 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: am going to come to the set the next time 647 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: that you have a sexy with Ignborg and I'm going 648 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: to have a chat with him. And she was like, no, 649 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: you're not. It was fine because she has no vanity 650 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: or or self awareness or anything meaning in a good question, 651 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: totally squeeze him, you know what I mean. I was like, babe, 652 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: how'd you get through that day? How many times you 653 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: have to do that? 654 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 655 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: A lot? O sure? Hey. But back to the scene. 656 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: He tells her in that scene that he loves her 657 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: and it's so good, and I didn't remember it. I 658 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: was really disqueezing at the boobs, but like I was like, 659 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: what's going to happen because it's just so good. You 660 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: don't even know what he's going to say. It's so 661 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: good and she's so good. But I did also love 662 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: before that when he they're walking down the street and 663 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, she's all her powerful corporate self and he's 664 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: his kind of adorable goofy self. And he's talking about 665 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: how he wants to go steady and she looks, I 666 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: mean look like he so doesn't read her. Like her 667 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: face is like no, no, but she doesn't say it. 668 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: She just thinks it, I know, right, I know she 669 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: always want I. 670 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: Think she always thought her character always thought she deserves 671 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: something better. 672 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: But see, then my question is, and I think it's 673 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: hard for me to totally separate from Charlotte's journey, right, 674 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: like what would have been better? I don't know, I know, 675 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like maybe Blair Underwood. 676 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean he was so good, right, I. 677 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: Loved their relationship together, so maybe Blinda loved with you 678 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: know Steve of course, like that was one of my 679 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: favorite things when she was like I love you and. 680 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: Of course of course of course, And I mean they 681 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: that whole were not to that season yet, but that 682 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: the way that they played, the two of them, Yeah, 683 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: they were so writing, so sot and just just sad sad. 684 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: Side note. We were planning a way to bring Blair 685 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: back to and just like that, I know, right, like 686 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: Dagger to the park, right like Dagger Dagger that we 687 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: didn't get to do that. I'm not even going to 688 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: get into the wise that we didn't get to do that, 689 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: but we had a plan. We were so excited, I know, right, 690 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: because we need Blair in everything and everything that we do. 691 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: He was everything right, and I remember at the time 692 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: being so excited we got it. But I don't mean 693 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: to diminish. I can burg because there's a part of 694 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: me where I feel and I feel like perfect. 695 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: I mean, everything was so perfect right and he because 696 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: of humans, you're out in a way. 697 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that kind of Harry, even Charlotte out. So even 698 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: though we're very far from finding Harry. When I watched them, 699 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: I do think about the fact that they're different, and 700 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: the fact that they're different might be a positive. Oh, 701 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: it's it's perfect. 702 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: Like you need someone when you have someone like you know, 703 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: Cindy or Miranda's character. She was so strong, so indecisive, 704 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: so independent. She needed someone that annoyed her just enough. 705 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: But he was so sweet. She was like a puppy dog. 706 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: He is sometimes like a puppy dog, that's true. And 707 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: I feel a little afraid for him. I feel a 708 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: little afraid for him. Sometimes he can handle it because 709 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: peppy dogs like you know, that's true. That's true, but 710 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, because they had already broken up. They're for 711 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: the first round. We have been season two, and he 712 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: just looks so hurt when they break up that time, 713 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: like so hurt. So I do feel concerned for him 714 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: a little bit also, I think because we know where 715 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: it's going. Yeah, so it's hard not to feel a 716 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: little bit worse. I know, we're like, oh, you'll be fine, 717 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: well kind of and kind of noteh like it's sad. 718 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a lot of sad and 719 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: weird feelings watching this particular episode. I tell you, I 720 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: don't know if it's just my mood today or whatever, 721 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: but it was a lot it was. I think it's 722 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: because it's so relevant to today. Yeah, and I think 723 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: you're right in a way that you just can't even 724 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: it's even stronger right now, like I do see like 725 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: his resonance. 726 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you even see like gen z that are 727 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: in the dating world right now, you felt. 728 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: That when you're watching it. 729 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean, like that's what I was thinking about, really, 730 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 2: you know, like you know, like women that are liberal 731 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: that you know, we'll go on these dating apps and 732 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: what you see it's so relevant. 733 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: And compromising, like wanting to compromise, wanting to make you want. 734 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: Because I genuinely feel like people really do want to 735 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: meet somebody definitely, and I have to make those considerations. 736 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a real thing, you know, Yes I do. 737 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, I see I'm single, So I 738 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: totally O God, I know I'm single. And you know 739 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to compromise. You can't. 740 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: You can't, You're sure, You're just like, I'm I'm fine 741 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: all by myself. 742 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Well, I got my kids, so I I everything. 743 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: You hear them, you know, Yeah, I told I tell them. 744 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: If my husband and I don't make it, I like, 745 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: that's it for me. 746 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: Like I've found Sure you will, you know, I absolutely 747 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: think we will. 748 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: But you know, like I just think about it, like 749 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: like you said, when you have your kids. 750 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, what else do you need? There are things 751 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: that are missing. Don't get me wrong, absolutely, but you 752 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: know it's like are you going to take time away? Yeah? 753 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: And are you worth it for me to take? Definitely? 754 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: That's where you are to be like me. The bar Yeah, bar. 755 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: Is very very all the way in heaven right now, totally, 756 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: Like it's really really high. 757 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Okay, it is too much fune talking to you, Mickey, 758 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have you back. We're gonna keep going, 759 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: you guys. Join us later in the week for Part 760 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: two about episode three oh two. I'm not gonna say 761 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: the title again.