1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge pretended by Draft Kings. The Ravens 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: are coming off a pretty brutal seven lost to the 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, in which they came back in the final 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: two minutes and one on a two point version. We 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: probably don't need to tell you that you already know 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: how it went down. A rough one, rough one drops 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens the seven and four. Now they're tied for 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: first place in the NFC North with the Cincinnati Bengals, 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: who are pretty hot right now. Uh. You know, obviously, 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: as we talked about going into this game, it was 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: a game that a lot of people expected the Ravens win, 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: the game that they probably that they should have won, 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: especially when you're you go up by a touchdown with 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: two minutes left, but they didn't. And some of the 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: same problems that we saw in recent weeks, and some 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: of the same problems that we saw earlier in the 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: season in terms of not finishing games defensively, both kind 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: of reared their ugly heads. So, Garrett, what was your 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: big takeaway all My initial takeaway, it's not a size 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: m on Monday. It is not a size about Monday. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: And um, look, I think that This was a combination 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: of like kind of spreading the the lack of wealth 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: um where everybody kind of had a fault in this 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: one um offense. Defense. You know, the offense throughout much 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: of the game obviously just settling for field goals. When 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: you get into the red zone, the red zone offense 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: was lackluster to say the least. Um and it was 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, some of it was on Lamar, some of 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: it was on receivers dropping passes, some of it was 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: on penalties, some of it was on plays getting late, 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: like just all across the board. Uh, the offense was 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: lackluster once they got into the red zone. Defensively, it 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, the script from earlier in the season, 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: like you mentioned against the Dolphins and against the Bills. 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, you control the game, you're having a really 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: dominant performance, You're up pretty big late in the late 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: in the game, more than a touchdown in the fourth quarter, 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: and you're thinking, all right, the defense is gonna be 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: able to put this one away, and then all of 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, Jacksonville's offense goes off and has a huge 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and your left there is thinking what just happened? 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Did that really just happen, and so it was a 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: combination of things. Um, we'll get into all of it, 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: but you know, I think at a big picture level, 45 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: I think that this game uh revealed some of the 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: things that we had talked about as being concerns in 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: recent weeks. Uh, particularly on the offensive side. Some of 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: those same concerns that we talked about even after the 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: win against Carolina kind of popped up again uh in 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: this game. And then something we've talked about all season, um, 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: is just the challenge of holding teams down, especially in 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Um. You know, it's it's just hard 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: to limit teams in two minute offense and play great 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: defense for four quarters. It really is. It's just hard 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: in today's NFL. And I think that that was we 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: saw an example of that and yesterday. So that's kind 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: of a ten thousand foot view of what I saw 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: unfold yesterday. Yeah. Well, let's uh we'll start talking about 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: the defense, I guess. Yeah. Um so so yeah, I 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: think kind of to your point, I mean, for much 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: of the game, you know, start off the game and 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty dominant defensively, just really holding them down, uh, 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: and and then they kind of they get a short 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: field on a failed fourth fourth and one attempt, they 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: get the ball at midfield and all of a sudden, 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: all right, they just kind of marched down the field 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: and score a touchdown. And then from that point on 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: it felt like it was game on for me. You know, 69 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: it was like the Ravens that were settling for field 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: goals on too too long drives and then you they 71 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: go on top seven six and it's just like, oh boy. 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: But you know, general speaking, I thought the defense played 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: pretty well, and then it looked like it looked like, 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: to me, almost like the same script from last week, 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: in which you know, the Panthers were hanging around, hanging around, 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: hanging around. Defense gets a big turnover right on the 77 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: highest Bowser forced fumble, giving the offensive short field. They 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: go down punching in for a touchdown. It was like, 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: all right, that was kind of their moment momentum that 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the offense needed. Defense provides a spark, and then they're 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: just gonna roll from here. But then we see the 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Jags come back down, you know and score what was it, 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen points, you know, but stretch in the fourth quarter, 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: and you know, to me, it was like kind of 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: to your point, like I see, you know, there's a 86 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: lot of chatter of like, oh, you know, the Ravens 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: had seemingly solved these fourth quarter problems. I don't know that, 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: like you don't really ever really solve Like it's not 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: like you solve that problem necessarily. I think I thought 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: the defense was like too good to allow that kind 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: of teen play seventy five yard drive from the Jags 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: down the stretch. I just thought it was too good 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: for that, you know what I mean, Like but to 94 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: your point kind of like it's not like you solve 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 1: the riddle. They had solved the riddle of fourth quarter 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: defense since the Dolphins game, in the Bills game, you 97 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, good defenses sometimes have teams 98 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: come back on them. I thought the Ravens were too 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: good of a defense to have that kind of outcome. 100 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Like I I just I just didn't even think. I 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: think I said to you during the game last night 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: or yesterday, I was just like, they're not gonna give 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: this up, right, Like they're not They're not actually gonna 104 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: give up a touchdown here in a too version, right, 105 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: And you know you were like it's possible, you know, 106 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: And I just I just thought that they had like 107 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: come too far, and and you know, the Jags like 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: they made plays and and Trevor Lawrence got really hot, 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, and so like, but this wasn't Let's let's 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: be real. This wasn't like Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill 111 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: going off in the fourth quarter, right, I mean, this 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: is a Jones, Christian Kirk, Marvin Jones, you know, and 113 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: and and a hot Trevor. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's 114 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: what that's what feels different. And that's kind of to 115 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: your point, Like I thought, I agree with you. I 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: thought the Ravens defense was kind of passed some of 117 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: those miscus. Like I think that like had this been 118 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: the Chiefs or the Bills or the Dolphins, where there's 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: these teams and you're saying, like, look, Diyree Kill got 120 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: behind the defense like he does that to everybody. You know, 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: you don't like it, but you kind of kind of 122 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: understand it. This was not just a big play, like, 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: this was not just too big place. It was methodical drives. 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: I did not think that we would find ourselves into 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: situation where the defense gave up a ten place seventy 126 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: five yard drive and to to to lose the game. 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I did not think it would be a situation where 128 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: they have of a four team play seventy five yard 129 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: drive that takes up seven minutes in the second half. 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: I just didn't think those things would happen. Um, and 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: and and they did. And you know, there was like 132 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: six different points in the game that I was like, Okay, 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: that was a little nerve racking. But they got to win. 134 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: That was a little I was a little nervous there, 135 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: but at least they're gonna come out of here with 136 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: a win. And I'll run through some of them. The 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Tius Bowser, you know, uh sack fumble that sets up 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: ended up being in a field goal. Um. You know, 139 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: at that point after that play, you're like, oh, sorry, 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: that's I'm sorry, that was a touchdown. That was the 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: that was that set up a touchdow my bid. But 142 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: after the Ravens are at twelve ten, that play happens, 143 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: they're right there at the twenty five yard line, You're like, okay, okay, 144 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: and then they get a touchdown. Now it's nineteen ten. 145 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: You're like, all, right, nineteen ten, there's no way they're 146 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: coming back from this end. At that point, then giving 147 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: up the defense has been really good, only given up 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: ten points, and defense has been good for multiple games, 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, the defense is gonna hold here. 150 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: They're not gonna blow a nine point lead in the 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And then and then all of a sudden 152 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: they come down. They got fourteen play, seventy five yard 153 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: drive and you're like, okay, I didn't expect that, but 154 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: still got the lead. And then you know, one play 155 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: drive with the gust fumble which gives Jacksonville the ball 156 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: right there, and it's just like that was like I think, 157 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: but that was probably the collective are you kidding me? 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Moment for Ravens fans. But even after that, obviously the 159 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Ravens get the ball and then they go down. So 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: now they're down twenty nineteen. They go down, and they 161 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: put together a quick play drive and after the honestly, 162 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: after the Sean Jackson sixty two yard bomb, by the way, 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: bright spot, Sean Jackson can still fly. That was the 164 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 1: third fastest time of any ball carrier in the NFL, 165 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: the season fastest time of anybody on the Ravens this year, 166 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: even faster than our guy Devon Duverne. So the wheels 167 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: still work on the Sewan Jackson. That was clear on 168 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: that play. After that play, I'm like, and also just 169 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: that might have been the nicest past Lamar has thrown 170 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: all year. I mean, that thing was a that was 171 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: just a perfect on target throw on a deep route 172 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: to hit Sehn Jackson's dride. Anyway, Um, after that play, 173 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, they're gonna get at least a 174 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: field goal here, they're gonna take a lead. And then 175 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: when they saw the touchdown, of course you think it's over. 176 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: So there's just multiple and then and then and then 177 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: even after that, when you get the Klai's Cable sack, 178 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, okay, they're not going anywhere. They're 179 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: not going anywhere on this final drive third what was 180 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: third and twenty one? You get the sack and you're like, 181 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: all right, left third and twenty one. There's no way 182 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: they're not going anywhere. And then boom, sixteen yard completion. Okay, 183 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: still fourth or five? All right, still four or five? Play? 184 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: You need one play, right, won't play? Yeah, boom Marvin 185 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: Jones ten yards. Now they're on the move again. So 186 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: like that just happened multiple times. Um that I felt 187 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: like the game was gonna be over and and obviously 188 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it seemed 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: like obviously Trevor Lawrence got really hot, and and he 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: just kind of felt was finding soft spots in the 191 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Ravens zone coverage. Particularly. It seemed like just kind of rate, 192 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens corners kind of would drop in, 193 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of instances, at least with Marcus Peters. 194 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: It was just kind of like he would stay on 195 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: the soft, lower kind of zone coverage and then they 196 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: were throwing it over top of him right before. It 197 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: seemed like Gino could get there, you know. And I 198 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: don't have all the plays frustrate in my memory, but 199 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: I can. It feels like they are multiple of those. 200 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: And and this is kind of what happens, I think, 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: when you you don't stomp on a team early, let 202 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: him hang around, and then they get confidence. And Trevor 203 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Lawrence talked about it after the game about how like 204 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: their defense holding the Ravens to three kind of gave them, 205 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, and then they go down to score touchdown, 206 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: they're like, we're gonna win this game, like, you know, 207 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and and Trevor Lawrence just kind of got hot I mean, 208 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: he goes twenty nine of thirty seven. That's ridiculous for 209 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: three one and three touchdowns. I mean that's ridiculous. And 210 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: so you know, and you gotta tip your cat, your 211 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: cap a little bit to him. I mean, you know, 212 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: here's a number one overall pick from a year ago 213 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: who played like it right, like he he has He's talented, dude, 214 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and through with anticipation, through with accuracy and hit his 215 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: receivers in stride. And so to a degree you have 216 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: to tip your cap. But but still, the Ravens defense 217 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: in secondary is too good for this. Uh you know. 218 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Uh it left me feeling like, man, we need you know, 219 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Marcus Williams back on the field. 220 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Kyle Hamilton's back on the field. 221 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: I think that those absences were magnified a little bit 222 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: in this game. Uh you know, they kind of went 223 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: after Brandon Stevens a little bit as he stepped in 224 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: for Kyle Hamilton's particularly on the two point conversion was rape, 225 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, targeted him. Um, so you know, and and 226 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: what's also discouraging is like here's the jet one of 227 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: the jags best offensive players, Travis etn Jr. They're running 228 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: BackStar running back goes down with a foot injury early 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: on and never came back. And when that happened, I 230 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: was like the stick of forking him. Done done, you know. 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: And and here's this hasty guy never heard of. The 232 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: dude catches five passes for sixty seven and a touchdown 233 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: and runs ran pretty hard to didn't get a lot 234 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: of rs, but like you know, had a pretty good game. 235 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: This was surprising all the way around. I think you know, 236 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: we did the podcast last week um with Geno Stone 237 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: just as a little refresher. Here I warned you. I 238 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: warned you. I said, this game makes me a little nervous. 239 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: Got the big point going on, the big point right 240 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: your face here. I warned you that this game made 241 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: me nervous, more nervous than the Carolina game. And part 242 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: of it was the Trevor Lawrence factor, the former number 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: one overall pick, and like I think people have written 244 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: him off a little too quickly in my mind, I mean, 245 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: there was like he was like one of those can't miss, 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: no doubt or prospects, and all of a sudden, it's 247 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: like halfway through a second season and people are like, yeah, 248 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, not great, And I still think he's got 249 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: a ton of talent and he showed that yesterday. So 250 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: that made me nervous them coming off a bye so 251 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: they had extra time to prepare and I think that 252 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: was a factor. And then the other one and you 253 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: saw the show up multiple times. Team had nothing to lose, 254 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson took on that mentality he goes for 255 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: the two point conversion at the end of the game. 256 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: He went for it on fourth down multiple times, like 257 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: he just had the attitude like this is kind of 258 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: a kitchen sink situation, like we're not gonna I'm not 259 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna go and kick this and to go to overtime. 260 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be conservative, and Doug Peterson is not 261 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: conservative in general. Adding the fact that there are three 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: and seven team really with basically nothing to lose, add 263 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: in all those factors, like you're gonna get an aggressive 264 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: game plan from them, and that's what we saw. So 265 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: that for those reasons I was and just just my 266 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: in my memory, the Ravens never seem to play well 267 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: down there, so like that was part of like they 268 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: have not played well. It doesn't that doesn't actually impact 269 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: things in this game. But in my memory, I'm like, 270 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: oh gosh, going to Jackson will never play well Harves. 271 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Harves reference that this past week. He was like, yeah, 272 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: and during my tenure, and maybe this is a me thing, 273 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: but we have not played well down there and we 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: want to play better. And so uh, I mean the 275 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: red zone offense, this this is an issue. This is 276 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: before before we switch over to the offense. Real quick, 277 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: I guess the last thing on defense. You know, there's 278 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: a lot of talk I would say about Marcus Peters, um, 279 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, having to having a rough day. And I've 280 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: been a big Marcus Peters fan since his time in Baltimore. UM, 281 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: but I think it was a rough game for him. UM. 282 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: And you mentioned some of the zone stuff where it 283 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: just seemed like Lawrence was finding the soft spot. And 284 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: also just you know, you don't know that is that 285 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: the safety not getting there on time? Is that Marcus 286 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: not dropping enough? Um? You know, and then obviously the 287 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: touchdown at the end of the game. I just want 288 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: to touch on that real quick. You know, Marvin Jones 289 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: makes a great catch. I think it's it is questionable 290 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: whether he was in bounds and they called it in 291 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: bounds on the field. I don't know. I mean I 292 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: saw the replay and I was like, Okay, he's out. 293 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: And then there they started talking about oh the shin. 294 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, the shin is that the ship in? Like 295 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: the is in? Um? But you know, Gene Stator former 296 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: official and their rules analyst seemed to think it was 297 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: the right call to keep the call at least there 298 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: wasn't Yeah, there was enough to overturn it. Yeah. Watching 299 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: it live, I was like, Oh, he's had a bounced 300 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's what Marcus thought. And so Marcus 301 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: didn't really give him like a big shove out of 302 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: bounds because he was like he's out of bounce, and um, 303 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, I thought that. I thought that. Justin Houston's 304 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: comments after the game were interesting. You know. He basically 305 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: just said like we got lacks of days ago, you know, 306 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: and and like I don't know if the defense felt 307 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: like we're too good for this to happen. There's no 308 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: way they're gonna do this, you know, and kind of like, yeah, 309 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: they can hit a couple of plays and kind of 310 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: mark you get down the field a little bit, but 311 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: they ain't gonna score touchdown here and a two point 312 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: version that ain't happening, you know, and like it did. 313 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: And so overall, my kind of thing on the defense 314 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: is like I still think this is a really good defense. 315 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Like my mind isn't changed about that. And I've I've 316 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of been on this bandwagon the whole season long, 317 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: even early in the year when they were getting torched 318 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: by Miami, Like, I just think there's too much sound 319 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: on this defense. And uh, but this was a little 320 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: bit of a wake up call, you know. This was like, oh, Okay, 321 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: we can't just like just like show up and be 322 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: really good and like it's gonna just pan out for us. 323 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna dominate team's weekend in the week out, you 324 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like to me, it was it 325 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: was a wake up call for this defense that I 326 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: think over the rest of the season could serve it 327 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: it well yeah yeah, and now yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah. 328 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think that there's I'm with you, like 329 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. I still think this defense is 330 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: really good. But I don't see like a fatal flaw. 331 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't see a fatal flaw with the defense, especially 332 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: once you get Marcus Williams who returns to the practice 333 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: field last week. You know, we'll see how long it 334 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: takes him to get back up to game speed um 335 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: and for them to feel comfortable with his his wrist. 336 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: But you get him back on the field, that will 337 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: certainly help Kyle Hamilton's you know, he was questionable to play, 338 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: so certainly it seems like he's not far off. We 339 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: keep saying David a job at some point. I don't 340 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: know when that point is gonna be, but like you know, 341 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know, at some point they feel like 342 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: he's ready to go and her ask some quarterbacks. So like, 343 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: I guess I'm not like coming out of this, I'm 344 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: not long term worried about the defense. I just kind 345 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: of think mostly my takeaway is Trevor Trevor Lawrence got 346 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: really hot. They maybe got a little lax to day school, 347 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: like Justin Houston said, and kind of lost that edge 348 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: a little bit down the stretch and got burnt for it. Yeah, 349 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: And I guess the one thing I would say, and 350 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: this isn't the fatal flaw about the defense, but it's 351 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: more like we've talked about previously, more of like a 352 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: fatal flaw of defense in general, is that it's just 353 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: really hard to play great defense. And I think that 354 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: like my concern on the defense, can you win in 355 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: the playoffs and again you win a division and you 356 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: can be a team that's just like we're a dominant defense. 357 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Is that good enough to make you a team that 358 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: can go to a super Bowl, can win a super Bowl, 359 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: can win the you're you're in the you're in the 360 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: defense doesn't win, That's the question, I think, honestly, that's 361 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a question that I have. In today's NFL, That's something 362 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: I I Is that so the case? And like when 363 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: you go back in recent years, like I think that 364 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: there's been it's improven. The defense can kind of win championships, 365 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: like you know, the Rams had had a stellar defense 366 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey and and well, I 367 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: think I think you have to you have to get 368 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: turnovers in today's NFL, Like, if you're gonna win with defense, 369 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: you're not You're just not gonna shut down the Chiefs, 370 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, drive in and drive out for three and 371 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: ounts not happening. You have to get turnovers. And so 372 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens got I think what one, they got one 373 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: which was huge, which is big. Yeah, that was a 374 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: big play, and they almost got one to close out 375 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: the game. I mean Clays Cambell got a sex strip 376 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: on the final drive. If they had recovered that fumble, 377 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: we would have it would have been a much different 378 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: story right now. We would all have been like defense 379 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: closes it out with turnovers once again, like dominant d 380 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah blah. Like you know, if 381 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: they had jumped on that fumble, if the guy had 382 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: been close, like that's kind of the margin right now. 383 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: And so I guess I'm not subscribing. I still think 384 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: like a really good defense can take you a long way, 385 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: but it has to be one that gets turn overs. 386 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: And generally speaking, the Ravens defense has done a pretty 387 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: good job of that. Yeah, yeah, alright, before we flip 388 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: it over to the offense, let's go ahead and say 389 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: hello to our friends at Draft Kings. 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Sign up at Draft Kings Today 400 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: and the code there is flock. So all right, let's 401 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: have some emails. Have some emails here, all right. So 402 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: this one's from Ronnie Smith. It says, this is a 403 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: heart crusher. I have to say I wasn't prepared for it. 404 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: I had no emotional backup plan for heart breaking drive 405 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: with two minutes left on our defense. This is kind 406 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: of exactly what we're saying, Ronnie. I just didn't think 407 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: of what could happen neither the day. Um so Ronnie. 408 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Ronnie says, we let them off the hook when they 409 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: had uh fourth down and eight yards to go for 410 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: a first down, and they got the first down and 411 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: then some on that final drive. He says, Mark Andrews 412 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: doesn't seem all there in quotes the fumble in the 413 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: first quarter yet not recovered by the Jags, and the 414 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: hot and the bubble dropping the end zone, or so 415 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: uncharacteristic our offense let them off the hook with that 416 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: drop Gus is fumble and the uncaught rope to DeMarcus Robinson, 417 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the one he do for but maybe didn't need to dive. 418 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: He's talking about the one, the kind of the drop 419 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: in the end zone, red zone drop. Um. He also 420 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: mentions the miss deep throw to to DeMarcus Robinson on 421 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: the second play the game. Uh, he says, the sky 422 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: is not falling. We've still got first placed by hair. 423 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: It looks like a more exciting stretch run than we 424 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: planned for. The offense just has to come around. Yeah, 425 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: so what's your Let's let's start with Mark Um. I mean, yeah, well, 426 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: what I just want to say, I guess before we 427 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: dive in on Mark, I think like one thing one 428 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: takeaway from this offensively for me, is like the Ravens 429 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: kind of need some of their stars to play a 430 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: little bit better offensively. I think, you know what I mean. 431 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Like they're thin. They they are thin at wide receiver. 432 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: Let's there's no bones about after after the bate and injury, 433 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: They're just they're just thin, right, And so, uh, you 434 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: know Mark, like they need him to be the dominant 435 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews of last year. They need Lamar Jackson to 436 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: play like m v P. Lamar Jackson. They need Gus 437 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Edwards to not fumble that ball, right like that was 438 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: part of the issue yesterday, I thought, right like, and 439 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: I agree like Mark, Mark, that was uncharacteristic. You don't 440 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: see him call up fumbles. He got lucky in that one, 441 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, bounds was out of bounds, rolled out of 442 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: bounds after it touched a Jags player who was out 443 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: of bounds. So he got lucky on that one. The 444 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: drop was just a weird one. Weird one, um, so 445 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: you know. And there's another deep one and that I 446 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: think Lamar actually had a really nice throw on. It 447 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: was a nice lofted touch past that now defender I 448 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: think kind of got away with hooking one of his 449 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: arms a little bit. But like you hope that Mark 450 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: makes that play too, you know. So you know, am 451 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: I worried about Mark? No, not really, as long as 452 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: he's healthy, you know what I mean. Like Mark Andrew's 453 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: stud there's just no doubt about it. But I would 454 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: say that he hasn't had like maybe it's it's injury 455 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: related to some degree, but he hasn't had like back 456 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: to back great games, you know, and hasn't had a 457 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: monster showing in a little while, Uh, in part because 458 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: of the injury. I think, yeah, I think that's probably 459 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: part of it. Um. You know, he's a little banged up, 460 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: um and it was knee and shoulder for him, so 461 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of up you got, you got the upper body 462 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: and your lower body, so you're kind of feeling it. Uh, 463 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: they're a little bit um, So I think that probably 464 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: has a factor. I'm with you. Like my my concern 465 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: level on Mark Andrews is very low. Like the guy 466 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: has a study, he's one of the best tight ends 467 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: of the games to like it. And I also think 468 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: that defenses know that this offense runs through him. It 469 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: always has um and it's even more so without Frasade 470 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Bateman on the field. So everything, all the attention is 471 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: going to Mark, and I think teams are saying, you 472 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: know what, we are not going to let Mark Andrews 473 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: beat us. We are gonna do everything we can. We're 474 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna chip him at the line, We're gonna put a 475 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: safety over top of him. We are going to do 476 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: everything we can to keep Mark Andrews from beating us. 477 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: And that means you're gonna have to beat us with 478 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: a run game, and you're gonna have to beat us 479 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: with your receivers. And I think that that's what what 480 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: teams are saying. Well, and then I'm saying right, and 481 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, you know, you don't know 482 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: who's gonna step up in a giving game these days 483 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: because you know, like because of the wide receiver corps 484 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: so thin. You know, Devin do and they got you know, 485 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: they talked to this past week about getting him more involved. 486 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: He he got a little bit more involved, you know, 487 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: first drive of the game, I think he got one, 488 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: had two carries, five targets in the passing game, but 489 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: still caught three and had a drop. Very I think 490 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: it was this first drop of the year. Talking about uncharacteristic, 491 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, do Rene hasn't since Babing 492 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: went down, has not lit the world on fire, like 493 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us expected him to kind 494 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: of step into that wide receiver one role. Last week 495 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: it was DeMarcus Robinson. This week, DeMarcus catches one ball 496 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: for seventeen. Now, he could have had a long touchdown 497 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: on the first drive, and he could have had a 498 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: second touchdown on the one that he he know for 499 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: and didn't come up with a catch, which was I 500 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: thought another good throw by Lamar could play rolling to 501 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: his right and still I thought that was good. That 502 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: was I thought that was a great throw by Lamar. 503 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: And that's just absolutely one that Demarcut Thromason needs a catch, 504 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: Like there's just hit him right in the hands and 505 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: like yes he's diving, but like as far as like 506 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: a degree of difficulty catches go, I don't think that 507 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: one was that high. Um, yeah, I agree, And so 508 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: that's when he needs to I mean drop pass through 509 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: more problem. Yesterday DeMarcus had that one, the one Kenyan 510 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Drake had one. It's like you know, and and then 511 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: and then this would have been a really tough Josh 512 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Oliver had one as he was going into the end zone, 513 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: really tough catch. Lamar was a little high on that throw, 514 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: like catch a bowl catchable and also like the Marsha 515 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: put that ball a little bit lower to Josh Oliver. Um, 516 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: like there's there. That was part of the as I 517 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: said at the outset here, like plenty of blame to 518 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: go around when you're talking about what went wrong. Uh, 519 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: really on both sides of the ball. But but it's 520 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: just weird. I mean, you have Josh Oliver leads the 521 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: team receiving six targets, second most, you know, behind Mark Andrews. 522 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver has a big game four for seventy six 523 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: and the touchdown. That's where we we we overlooked that 524 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: going into the week. We did not factor in the 525 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver revenge game. That's on us. It's true, missed 526 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: that one. It's very true, very true. Uh. And then 527 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: the Seawan Jackson, you know, obviously with the big play. 528 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, so it's just they're kind of the Ravens 529 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: are just having the cobblet together in terms of the 530 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: passing game, you know, without Bateman, Like that's just what 531 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: it is like you don't know who's gonna be who's 532 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. But generally speaking across the board, 533 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: I would say, like it just hasn't been good enough, 534 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 1: you know, like you need more people to step up. 535 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: It can't be like one different guy each week, you 536 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so and and then you know, 537 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Lamar sixteen thirty two, and we already talked about drops 538 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: certainly impacted that his receivers did not help him out yesterday. 539 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: But Lamar missed some passes like it's fine, it happens, 540 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: you know, when yesterday was one of those days. And 541 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: and it seems like, particularly with deep shots, he's having 542 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: he's having some trouble connecting on this this season that 543 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: that's kind of been the trend has been like deep shots, 544 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: he's been overthrowing those. He did now I think someone 545 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: First of all, I agree. Also deep shots are lower 546 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: percentage of percentage of completion, you know, the higher degree 547 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: of difficulty there, So you're gonna miss on more of those. 548 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: If you hit your throws, that's a that's a great 549 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, right, So that's part of it. Another factor 550 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: there is, uh I forgive I guess like to some degree, 551 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: I kind of forgive a little bit of like a 552 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson miss when uh there, when you were so 553 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: when that DeShawn Jackson play was like so perfect. So 554 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: it's like I'm with you, like you gotta hit like 555 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: you gotta hit that. That DeMarcus Robinson one early in 556 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: the game is kind of a layup like that one 557 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: he's open hit it, but like you get a little 558 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: bit of leeway when you come back and you hit 559 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: that bomb to Deshan Jackson later in the game. Okay, 560 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: I'll forgive that one. All right, let's get to an 561 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: email here. This comes to us from Logan says, I'm 562 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: a die hard Ravens fan, longtime listener to Lounge. My 563 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: families from Baltimore, but I grew up military kids, so 564 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I moved around a lot. I now live in Germany 565 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: working with military families, and I found a way to 566 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: be part of the German flock here. So watch every game. 567 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: Just by the time difference. That's commitment. Logan a shout 568 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: out to you. So he's got a couple of questions, 569 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: and this is the one I want to dive into. 570 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Is there a reason place for taking so long to 571 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: get to Lamar? It got better in the second half, 572 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: But this seems to be a consistent issue. What's your 573 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: take on this? Yeah, it is a consistent issue. It's 574 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: got to get or it's got it's it has to 575 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: be fixed. It's a problem, you know. And it was 576 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: particularly glaring on the fourth and one from midfield, which, 577 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: by the way, what what was up with that? Like? 578 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: How do you signal first down and then you just 579 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: like without a challenge, you just respot the ball. I 580 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: still don't understand that. But whatever that aside, fourth and one, 581 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: and like they're scrambling, you know, like did not seem 582 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: to be settled on on on the play. They're scrambling 583 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: to get the snap off and then Lamar just does this, 584 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: like kind of takes it and takes a sidestep and 585 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: plunges for it. It It just nothing about that play looked good. 586 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: I was sitting there staying take a time out out, 587 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: like it's you know, when you're just hustling against the 588 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: clock to get that snap off. It's just not good 589 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: on such a big play. Um, I don't you know, 590 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: I you have to think that Romanism, you know, like 591 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: needs to get to play in faster. I don't know, 592 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's getting Lamar, taking 593 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: Lamar too long to get the play out and get 594 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: it communicated in the huddle, or whether the play call 595 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: is taking too long to get to him or not 596 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: coming in early enough. But I agree that it's a 597 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: it's a consistent problem. And I think John Harwell even 598 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: told the CBS crew at halftime, Yeah, we gotta get 599 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: that fixed, Like that will get fixed, right, So I'm 600 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: sure at halftime he said, whoever all parties involved or 601 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: somebody like that can't keep happening because it was a 602 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: problem certainly in the first half. It wasn't in the 603 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: second half. So to their credit, they got it fixed. 604 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, that was an issue. Yeah, totally. 605 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I think that like on that front, Like this is 606 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: something I've talked about previously, and it's like these procedural 607 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: things have hurt this offense and so many times this year, 608 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: and like you just can't have it. Whether it's a 609 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: legal formation, whether it is confusion pre snap, whether it's 610 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: getting to the line light, Like there's way too much 611 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: pre snap, too many, way too many pre snap issues. Um, 612 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: and like the offense as a whole needs to improve 613 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: on that. And it's just the whole operation I think 614 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: can be sloppy at times. And I just heard him 615 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: in the red zone again, you know, and one of 616 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: their three short field goals, you know, one was because 617 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: of a false start, right and kind of backed them 618 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: up and put them behind the chain the chains, right. 619 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: And there's like the delay games that actually get called, 620 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: but there's a there's a few others that like are 621 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: getting like I mean that four downs one that you mentioned, 622 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: like that are getting called with like one or even 623 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: zero seconds left. On the play clock where you're like 624 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: you're getting to the line with six seconds left and 625 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: you're in, you're rushing, and it just things seem disjointed, 626 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: and like that needs to be more efficient, because I 627 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: do think that's hurt the Ravens this year, especially when 628 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: your team that does so much kind of pre snap stuff. 629 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: That's I think it's part of the reason why there's 630 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: the illegal formation and false start penalties. But you can't 631 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: have all and you can't have the trifecta their legal formulation, 632 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: false stars in delay games, you can't. Like you got 633 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: to improve on those um and I think it has 634 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: hurt the offense uh this year and that that there's 635 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: no doubt that needs to be better. Yeah. Another email 636 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: from Proddy David Proddy says that the Ravens couldn't finish 637 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: drives in the red zone, settled for field goals instead 638 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: of touchdowns, offense shared more fight in the second half 639 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: of the Jaguars offense stay of the course and made 640 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: the players to finish the game. Agreed. I mean, the 641 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: reds are the reds are on offense. Like the thing 642 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: about it is there's not one aspect that you can 643 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: just put your finger on and say this is the 644 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: problem with the red z Own offense, and that's that's 645 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: a tough thing. It's not like there's a right exactly 646 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: like and so you know, it's just like they have 647 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: an execute. I don't know if they're just feeling getting tight, 648 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: like it was a problem earlier in the year and 649 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: then they got better, they kind of broke through it, 650 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: and now it's returned. And and I don't know exactly 651 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: why if if if it's a problem with like just 652 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: the lack of targets and people are just locking up 653 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews down there. I mean they didn't on the 654 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: drop touchdown. I'll say that, um, but like I don't, 655 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. But the execution has been poor, 656 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: uh in the Reds are it just has I mean, 657 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: it was better, I guess down the stretch they plunged 658 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: in for the Gusts one yard touchdown and I got 659 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: the Josh Oliver touchdown, and they got the Josh Oliver touchdowns. 660 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: So maybe that helps them break out of it. I 661 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: don't know, but certainly, you know, as the Ravens go 662 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: through the rest of the season and they have a 663 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of games against opponents that they are favored high, 664 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: like heavily favored to beat. Like if you're not stomping 665 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: on them early in the game and you just let 666 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: them hanging around and you continue these red Zain problems, 667 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: you're going to have more results like this potentially, you know, 668 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: because if you just go up big early in the game, 669 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: it changes the dynamic in the course of that game. 670 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: I think so much. Yeah, look, I I'm sitting there 671 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: watching the Ravens game, and I also I'm looking around 672 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: at the scores around the league. And as I'm as 673 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing that, you know, it's it was kind of 674 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: a reminder of like, you know, for example, they kept flat. 675 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: You know, the Miami Houston score flashes up on the screen. Now, look, 676 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Houston is probably the worst team in the NFL, so 677 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. But the Jaguars were three and seven. 678 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's thirty to nothing, and it's like, okay, 679 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: that's that's just say. Take care of business is put 680 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: the team, put the team away, don't leave them any opportunity, 681 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: and get a win. And that's what that's what Miami did. 682 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Like the Ravens need to do that. Lark Jackson said 683 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: that after the game. Everyone basically said that after the 684 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: game that like, you can't allow teams to hang around 685 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: because this is the result that can end up happening 686 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: when you do, you just you don't. You put yourself 687 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: in a bad situation. And then all of a sudden, 688 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards, who never fumbles, fumbles, you know, and you're like, oh, okay, 689 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: things just got a little bit a little bit more interesting. 690 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: You know, the defense has been locked lockdown all day long. 691 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, justin Houston said, got a little 692 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: backs of daisical and now you end up losing the game. 693 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: They go for two. Okay, it's a one play game 694 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: and you don't get it. Um, It's just like all 695 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: those when you do not take advantage of early opportunities 696 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: to get a big lead, you put yourself in position 697 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: where you can end up with a very disappointing results. 698 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: I guess the big question coming out of this is, like, 699 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about are you concerned about the 700 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: defense long term? What's your concerned level like with the offense? Yeah? 701 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I think, um, I do think that. Like it was 702 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: good to see Gus Iwards back and he looked like 703 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: his his himself to me minus the fumble, um, but 704 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: I think that like that was dominated the running back 705 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: room and snaps. By the way played the snaps thirty six, 706 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake had eight teens or doubled him up. Ye, 707 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: I thought that Gus looked like himself. So my concern 708 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: with the offense is as I've basically unchanged, you know, 709 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: like this receiving corps is his thing, and if you 710 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: take away Mark Andrews, it's kind of a rotating cast 711 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: of guys who could step up and be the guy. Now. 712 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: I think they have ability, but like that's my concern. 713 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: Can can these guys um give you enough big plays? 714 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, de Sean Jackson if he makes plays like 715 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: he did yesterday with that six two yarderd, I think that, 716 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: you know, like that's why you have him, Like you 717 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: hope that Deshan Jackson can win you a game, and 718 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: he didn't enough yesterday to basically do that. You know, 719 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: he gets the big play. That's that's exactly why you 720 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: signed the Sean Jackson right there. It was like you 721 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: were like, we need three plays this year from you 722 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: where you just change the game with a big play, 723 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: like right, that's it, right, And it's like you use 724 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: one of them and you didn't get get cashed in 725 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: one of the big players that you catch in the 726 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: chip and you didn't win. That's really disappointing. Um. So yeah, 727 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: I think that, like my concern with the offense remains unchanged. 728 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: You know, I still have questions about the passing game 729 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: and the ability to to put up points. You know, 730 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: if you get into if you get into one of 731 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: those uh shootouts with a Bill's Chiefs Dolphins team in 732 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's the bank. That's that's my that's my 733 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: thing is like right now, you know, I think the 734 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: Ravens are They're still in good position to make the playoffs. 735 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: I expect that they will. I think that, um, you know, 736 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: and and that's the most important thing, right you don't like, 737 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: maybe this passing offense can get a little momentum before 738 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs start or whatever. And and like, you know, 739 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be the Kansas City She's 740 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: passing offense, you know, at any point, but like maybe 741 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: they can fix some of this and fix some of 742 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: the red zone stuff and just get some momentum a 743 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: little bit, right, But then, and that's the most important thing. 744 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: Just get into the dance. You know me, I'm I'm 745 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: Ace and and you never know what can happen. But like, 746 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: I think it's also legitimate, you know, just for the 747 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: sake of conversation of like, is this passing offense, like 748 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: you would have to play a really dominant defensive game 749 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: or get multiple turnovers because the passing game, I don't 750 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be tough. It's tough to 751 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: envision it keeping up with some of the big players 752 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: in the a f C and keeping keeping pace with them, 753 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: because it just it just is a little bit disjoined 754 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I think right now, offensively, still 755 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: the best most reliable weapon that the Ravens have has 756 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: been Lamar Jackson running the ball, you know, Like that 757 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: was the most successful thing that they had going yesterday, 758 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: was the mar Jackson four team carries for eight nine yards. 759 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: That was like the best thing they had going and 760 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: and when they turned to it all when they needed 761 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: a play, and um, I think it's gonna take and 762 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: as great a runner as Lamar is, and he's fantastic, 763 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: but it's gonna I think it's gonna take more than 764 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: that to beat some of the best teams in the 765 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: a f C. Yeah, I agree with basically everything you 766 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: said there. I I still like, I still feel very 767 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: confident that they're able to make the playoffs. I stilleel 768 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: confident that they're gonna win the division, even though the 769 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: Bengals look very hot right now and they just want 770 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: a really tough game in Tennessee. So like, the Bengals 771 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: are coming on strong and mar Chases coming back, but 772 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: they still have a really difficult schedule. If they beat 773 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: the Chiefs on Sunday, then I'm really gonna be concerned. Okay, 774 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: they play the Chiefs this week and that'll be a 775 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: really interesting game. So to see how that goes for Cincinnati. UM. 776 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: Two other quick things I want to get your take 777 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: on one. UM the Josh Oliver was asked about this 778 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: after the game. He scores the touchdown. You know, basically 779 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: with two minutes left. Um, you know, you could go 780 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: down there at the one and then try to set 781 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: up a field goal situation. There obviously goes in and 782 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens end taking a seven point lead. Now that's 783 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, at that point, there's two minutes left in 784 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: the game, so it's you know, you're on the front 785 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: side of the two minute warning. What is your take 786 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: on that? Uh? Yeah, I was a little bit surprised 787 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: by the shot there to the end zone. Like I, 788 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: I kind of thought after the big play to the 789 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: seawan that it was going to be a run the 790 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: clock out, set it up for Tucker for a game 791 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: winner situation. Um. But then, like we're all sitting here 792 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: belly aching about the red zone offense, you're at the 793 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: twelve and you have a touchdown, like you know, um, 794 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: And obviously if they kick a field goal there, you 795 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: have to make sure that you don't have hardly any 796 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: time on the clock because it just all they needed 797 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: was a game when a field goal to win the 798 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: game if you if you have you get a two 799 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: point lead and just you know, just to play it 800 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: out here. Basically, he goes down at the one. I'll 801 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: give Doug Peterson credit, he started taking his time out 802 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: before the two minute warning and played that basically perfectly. Um, 803 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: So they would have they had one time out left 804 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: right and the two minute warning and the two minute warnings. 805 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: So you basically, you know, you go down to the 806 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: one there, you're taking a knee. Now it's a two 807 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: minute warning. Take another knee. Now there's a minute fifty 808 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: seven left on the clock. Um, and then you take 809 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: another knee and now they to a minute third maybe 810 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: maybe minute and ten, So then you're giving them the 811 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: ball back. No time outs. Were the only needing three 812 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: points and there's a minute ten ish on the clock, 813 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: That to me is too risky. I would rather be 814 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: up seven in that situation and they have one time 815 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: out and then you need to score touched under beat you, 816 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. That's so that's my take 817 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: on that. And then the last point that I have 818 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: here is I know it came up short, and I 819 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: know Justin Tucker stood up to the media after the 820 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: game and basically said, this one's on me. Like I 821 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker is, it's a pretty confident guy who is 822 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: always like he'll he'll take responsibility after a game like that. 823 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: But like, as much as I wire him for saying 824 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: that and knowing that he could hit that kick in 825 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: the right situation, this one I on Justin Tucker, Like, no, 826 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: oh heck, no, you know at all? And like I 827 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: give just the fact that everyone was like could he 828 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: do it? Says all you need to know about Justin Tucker. 829 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: Oh wait, it looked like it was online. I was like, 830 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, here we go, here we go. But yeah, no, 831 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: that's not on Tucker at all. I mean not making 832 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: a record setting kick, the longest kick ever, the longest 833 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: kick ever. No, you don't get penalized for that one. Um. 834 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: Here's another good email from Kyle Rychard. He says, the 835 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: reason I think this loss hurts is they got the 836 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: two point conversion after the loss is already this season 837 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: and the two losses from two point conversion misses I 838 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: guess last year. It just feels like such a slap 839 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: in the face, which I completely agree. It's just like, godly, 840 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: can we have any of those go our way? Can 841 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: any two one conversions go the Ravens way? I mean 842 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: good or fourth now, you know, like the Bills fourth down, 843 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: go for it and don't get it Like it just 844 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: feels like they've been on the wrong end of that 845 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: so many times the past couple of years. Yeah, yeah, 846 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you. It doesn't like actually 847 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: it didn't actually like it just stinks. It's just salt 848 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: in the wood, that's all it is. It's just salt 849 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: in the wood. Um, So we are gonna work on 850 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: having a guest later this week. UM. It is disappointing, 851 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: but I still think the Ravens are in good position. UM. 852 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 1: And they got a Broncos team coming to town this week. 853 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: UM that once again they should be UM, and we'll 854 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: see if they're able to do that. So you can 855 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: email us with the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 856 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: We appreciate all the emails that you sent us. I'm 857 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: sure we're gonna have those continue to roll into the 858 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: inbox because there's a lot of emotions after a game 859 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: like that, so sending those emails. Thanks for listening, and 860 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk with you again later this week.