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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Buck

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Speaker 2: will be back on Mondays in Scotland with Carrie.

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Speaker 3: We have got a loaded program for you.

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Speaker 2: We are going to discuss the most famous mugshot in history,

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Speaker 2: and I'm actually going to argue something that's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of people triggered on social media that this is

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Speaker 2: one of the most famous photographs in American history. I

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Speaker 2: really do believe the Donald Trump mugshot from Fulton County, Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: Georgia location we will discuss. We're going to be joined

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Speaker 2: by Nicki Haley, who was one of the three big

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Speaker 2: winners from the Republican debate on Wednesday. She's going to

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Speaker 2: be with us at the top of the next hour.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Arnault, who is going to be in a Fox

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Speaker 2: News Out Kicked special that will Sunday night at ten pm.

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Speaker 2: I think you guys are really going to enjoy that

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Speaker 2: she works at OutKick. She's gonna tee off on masking

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Speaker 2: and the idea I think of toxic masculinity in general.

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Speaker 3: I believe you.

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Speaker 2: Will all enjoy that, but certainly we begin with the

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Speaker 2: mugshot heard around the world, and I bet a lot

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Speaker 2: of you were like me when this mug shot popped.

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Speaker 2: I'm in New York City right now to do the

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Speaker 2: Fox OutKick special. I'll be on Gutfeld tonight, by the way,

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Speaker 2: for those of you who enjoy watching Gutfeld.

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Speaker 3: And I was out to dinner.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting at a bar a restaurant, having a

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Speaker 2: nice beverage, and the guy that I was sitting with said,

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Speaker 2: the Trump mug shots up just got sent to me,

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Speaker 2: and he handed me his phone, and I didn't believe

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Speaker 2: it was real because it was such a ridiculously funny

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Speaker 2: and also simultaneously amazing mugshot that I didn't think it

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Speaker 2: was possible that it could be real. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much time Donald Trump spent posing in front

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Speaker 2: of a mirror for what exactly the mugshot would look like.

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Speaker 2: A part of me thought he might smile. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know what to expect. I think this thing is going

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Speaker 2: to redound to his own benefit in a major way

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Speaker 2: because Democrats keep chasing the idea that they're going to

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Speaker 2: somehow get validation by breaking two hundred and forty years

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Speaker 2: of American political process by trying to put their chief

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Speaker 2: political adversary in prison for the rest of his life,

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Speaker 2: and Trump just keeps making them angrier in the way

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Speaker 2: that he responds. Already, this mugshot, which I imagine every

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Speaker 2: single one of you listening to me right now has seen,

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Speaker 2: is on the front of t shirts, It's on coffee mugs.

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Speaker 2: It likely, I believe, will raise tens of millions for

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Speaker 2: certain I think hundreds of millions of dollars for Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump before all is said and done. But what I

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Speaker 2: don't want for people to mistake is how outrageous, how outlandish,

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Speaker 2: how indefensible the decisions that Democrats are making right now,

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to Trump are in terms of the

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Speaker 2: precedent that they are setting for this country. For two

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty years, we manage to have arguments about

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Speaker 2: whether or not our candidate should win or the other

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Speaker 2: candidates should win, And at no point in time was

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Speaker 2: any of the contenders. Were any of the contenders put

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Speaker 2: into criminal charges facing spending life in prison. We have

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Speaker 2: seen many of us out there, our entire lives, other

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Speaker 2: countries descend into this banana republic dumb We have never

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Speaker 2: managed to do it ourselves. And yet I don't want

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Speaker 2: to understate or miss what is going on here. In

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Speaker 2: the last five months, four different jurisdictions have brought charges

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Speaker 2: against Donald Trump with the goal and desire and intent

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Speaker 2: to be putting him in prison for the rest of

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Speaker 2: his life. That is where we are. Joe Biden sent

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Speaker 2: out an email the minute that the mugshot was released

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Speaker 2: asking for people to donate to his campaign. Whether you

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Speaker 2: like Trump or not, whether you are supporting Trump or

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Speaker 2: not in the Republican primary. What democrats are doing is

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Speaker 2: so unprecedented and so without justification that what we are

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Speaker 2: setting up is a dissent into true authoritarianism.

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Speaker 3: And this is often what you see happen.

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Speaker 2: Everything that democrats told you Trump would do if he

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Speaker 2: were in power, they actually do.

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Speaker 3: Think about where we are.

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Speaker 2: Democrats are claiming that they are defending democracy by trying

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Speaker 2: to put the chief political adversary of the current president

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Speaker 2: of the United States, Donald Trump, in prison for the

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Speaker 2: rest of his life. And it's not only the fact

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Speaker 2: that they're doing that, they are also simultaneously protecting Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden and the Biden crime family from any of the

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Speaker 2: consequences of their own actions. They are throwing the book

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Speaker 2: proverbially speaking at their chief political opposition, while protecting everyone

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Speaker 2: related to Joe Biden from far more serious criminal charges.

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Speaker 3: This cannot stand. And I do.

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Speaker 2: Believe that there are many people out there, good, decent,

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Speaker 2: reasonable people who are willing to stand on principle over politics,

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Speaker 2: that see this for what it is and find it

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Speaker 2: to be utterly unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't ever work.

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Speaker 2: Democrats want Trump to bow down, and instead he bows

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Speaker 2: up every single time. Here's what Trump said last night

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Speaker 2: after this mugshot was taken.

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Speaker 4: This is a very sad day for America. This should

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Speaker 4: never happen. If you challenge an election, you should be

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Speaker 4: able to challenge an election.

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Speaker 5: I thought the.

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Speaker 4: Election was a rigged election, the stolen election, and I

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Speaker 4: should have every right to do that. As you know,

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Speaker 4: you have many people that you've been watching over the

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Speaker 4: years to do the same thing, whether it's Hillary Clint

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Speaker 4: or Stacy Abrams or many others. When you have that

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Speaker 4: great freedom to challenge, you have to be able to

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Speaker 4: otherwise you're going to have vert this honest elections. What

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Speaker 4: has taken place here is a travesty of justice. We

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Speaker 4: did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong, and everybody knows

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Speaker 4: that I've never had such support, and that goes with

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Speaker 4: the other ones too. What they're doing is election interfere

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Speaker 4: and they're trying to interfere with an election. There's never

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Speaker 4: been anything like it in our country before.

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Speaker 3: This is their way of campaigning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that is Trump reacting. I also want to

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Speaker 2: contextualise historically for you now. And by the way, eight

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Speaker 2: of you want to weigh in, and I'm sure a

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Speaker 3: It's going to stun you, I know. I said, this

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Speaker 3: photo of Trump.

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Speaker 2: Is I think, sadly now, the most famous photo up

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Speaker 2: and then I went on Sean Hannity. Some of you

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Speaker 2: may have seen me last night talking about this with

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Speaker 2: Sean Hannity in front of his live studio audience. When

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Speaker 2: here are the three or four that to me immediately

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Speaker 2: why they are so famous is because They stand in

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Speaker 2: some way for the idea of American exceptionalism, for the

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Speaker 2: idea that our country is the greatest that has ever

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Speaker 2: you I think of iconic photographs. I think of Times Square,

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Speaker 2: the sailor as we have won World War Two.

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Speaker 2: Literally off her feet and giving her a great, big

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Speaker 2: smooch a kiss right there in the heart of Times Square,

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Speaker 2: right now, that's now been roughly eighty years ago. I

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Speaker 2: think about that as one of the most iconic photos

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Speaker 2: you who have ever seen it, of the flag being

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Speaker 2: hoisted and placed on the battlefield of the Pacific as

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Speaker 2: America rose up against the forces of evil in World

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Speaker 2: the rubble of nine to eleven with a bullhorn, attempting

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Speaker 2: smoldering remains after that terror attack twenty two years.

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Speaker 3: Ago, almost to this day.

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Speaker 2: Those are some of the images there certainly are iconic

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Speaker 2: portraits Washington crossing the Delaware, images that are burned into

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Speaker 2: your mind and your consciousness as an American. Typically, what

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Speaker 2: these iconic images represent, and I'm not talking about video obviously,

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Speaker 2: as we got into the more of the modern era.

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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about snapshots that give you a window

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Speaker 2: into a moment of time. Abraham Lincoln as a Civil

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Speaker 2: War nerd the pictures of him, the agony that you

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Speaker 2: Civil War brought to bear. Some of the pictures that

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Speaker 2: Matthew Brady took from Civil War battlefields to bring the

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Speaker 2: War to his people. Those had to be still images.

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Speaker 2: You had to freeze because they couldn't capture moving images.

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Speaker 2: I think this Trump mugshot is up there now, but

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Speaker 2: it's not a sign of American exceptionalism. It's not a

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Speaker 2: sign of American excellence. It's a testament to the left's

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Speaker 2: attempt to descend America into totalitarianism. Trump having to post

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Speaker 2: bail two hundred thousand dollars to get out and being

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Speaker 2: forced to have his photograph taken wasn't about security. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't about protocol. It was designed to humiliate him, and

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Speaker 2: it was designed to send a message to you and

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Speaker 2: me and everybody out there in the entire country that

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Speaker 2: they're coming for you too. And it's important to understand

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Speaker 2: that this will not end with Trump. Long after Trump

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Speaker 2: idea that that is acceptable is across the rubicon moment.

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Speaker 2: It no longer is the case that our democracy is

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Speaker 2: We now have done what often happens in many other countries.

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Speaker 2: We are trying to put a man in prison because

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Speaker 2: of his political beliefs, and that, sadly is why this

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Speaker 2: image epitomizes the decline of American excellence under Democrat left

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Speaker 2: winging mob rule. I'll take your calls eight hundred two

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Speaker 2: In the Democrat Party. You know, testosterone levels declined by

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Speaker 2: a man with testosterone in it. They're like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: It's because the Biden White House is filled with the

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: We've been reacting much of this week to the debate

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Speaker 2: that took place on Wednesday night yesterday much discussion. I

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Speaker 2: Nicki Haley, and so let's start there. Governor Haley, appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time you asked the question that I think every

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Speaker 2: it is exactly right explain for people who may not

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Clay. It's great to be back on

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Speaker 6: with you again. You know, what I said was that

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Speaker 6: I am unapologetically pro life, not because the Republican Party

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Speaker 6: of all, in order to you know, I think the

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Speaker 6: But the debate has been should there be a federal

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Speaker 6: And the truth is in order for a law to

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Speaker 6: talking about what's doable. And in order to do that,

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Speaker 6: The goal should be how do we save as many

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to emanize this issue like everybody else has.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to humanize this issue. And I think that

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Speaker 6: it's time we're going to do that. And I refuse

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Speaker 6: It's too important of an issue. And I said, I'm

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Speaker 6: call them out on it and make them have to

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Speaker 3: I think that's well said.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure you look at the data, and also

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Speaker 2: I'm sure in your life you have a lot of

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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong based on what you see, Governor, But

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Speaker 2: the only way Republicans win in twenty twenty four is

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Speaker 6: And not only that, I mean, it's just that's part

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Speaker 6: But we shouldn't be a part of that. So let's

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Speaker 7: We move forward.

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Speaker 6: There's ways to do that, and we all actually agree

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Speaker 6: I don't think the guys have done it very well

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Speaker 2: Talking to Governor Nikki Haley, what's the reaction been since

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Speaker 6: The phones have been ringing NonStop. Were so grateful that,

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Speaker 6: We still have long days, but that's what we want.

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Speaker 6: And we knew, you know, honestly, Clay, that we weren't

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Speaker 6: We've done eighty town halls in New Hampshire and Iowa.

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Speaker 6: We're touching every hand, We're answering every question. I'm the

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Speaker 2: Talking to Governor Nikki Haley had an outstanding, I thought

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Speaker 3: That was on that stage.

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Speaker 6: I mean, most of the guys on the stage are

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Speaker 6: I tend to always lean towards governor. I think the

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Speaker 6: And so you know, anyone that's been a governor, I'm

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Speaker 2: You went after the vague Ramaswami aren't on foreign policy?

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Speaker 6: Well, I didn't see it as an attack as much

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Speaker 6: I don't think Joe Biden's going to serve his term.

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Speaker 6: George Stephanopolis about this yesterday because he got upstf that

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Speaker 6: four It's there's not an American Republican or Democrat that

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Speaker 6: believes that. So make no mistake, this is Kamala Harris

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Speaker 6: waiting in the wings. And it should send a chill

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to the Trump mugshot and the Trump

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Speaker 2: arrest that happened last night in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: It was a sad day. It was disgraceful. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the idea that in America we would see a seventy

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Speaker 6: seven year old former president actually have to take a

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Speaker 6: mug shot and to see this happening, I mean, no

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Speaker 6: it's I found it disturbing. I found it upsetting. I

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Speaker 6: think it's wrong, and you know, and I think that

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Speaker 6: the media, you know, blowing this up is not helpfully either.

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Speaker 6: When I'm on the ground in New Hampshire and Iowa,

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Speaker 6: they're not talking to me about how many indictments this

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Speaker 6: the economy and inflation is sky high and they can't

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Speaker 6: afford groceries and gas. They're talking about the fact they

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Speaker 6: can't afford childcare. You know, we've got to really focus

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Speaker 6: on those issues, and the crime and the border, and

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Speaker 6: the fact that our children have fallen behind in education,

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Speaker 6: and that we have national security threats. But I thought

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Speaker 6: it was terrible that that's what we had to witness yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Governor Haley, if people like what they're hearing from you.

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Speaker 2: Where would you tell them to go?

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Speaker 6: I would tell them we have a country to save,

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Speaker 6: and go to Nikki Haley and join us. We're going

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Speaker 6: to finish this and we're going to make sure that

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Speaker 6: America is strong and proud again.

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Speaker 2: Governor Nikki Haley of South Carolina, appreciate the time.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thanks so much, Clay.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole generation of younger Americans out there who

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Speaker 1: The Torch of truth past and still lit every day.

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Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: To welcome back in join now by my friend Charlie Arnault,

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Speaker 2: who is going to be on the OutKick Sunday at

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Speaker 2: ten pm television show. We're gonna have a lot of

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Speaker 2: fun discussing with her. But Charlie, let's start here. What

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Speaker 2: did you think of the Trump mugshot? And can you

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Speaker 2: believe this is the real world that we live in.

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Speaker 5: The answer to your question, the first part, I thought

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Speaker 5: it was a great mugshot. I thought he had like

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Speaker 5: great intensity in his eyes. I think that it's gonna

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Speaker 5: make for some fantastic merch. I plan to be gripping

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Speaker 5: in head to toe with Trump mugshot merch. I knew

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Speaker 5: all along that this was going to be like a

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Speaker 5: huge money maker for him, and it's actually great because

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Speaker 5: the more money he can make from all this merchandise

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Speaker 5: from his mug shot will be good to cover a

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Speaker 5: lot of his legal fees, which you know he's going

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Speaker 5: to have to pay up a lot of money along

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Speaker 5: the way. So there's that, But the fact that he

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Speaker 5: actually had a mugshot it is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: I mean, everyone knows who Trump is, they know what

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Speaker 7: he looks like. He's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 5: This was just a way for you know, it's an

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Speaker 5: attempt to embarrass him, it's an assassination on his character.

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Speaker 5: But I think we all realize that by making this move,

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Speaker 5: the Democrats have only done him a favor. And I

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Speaker 5: think his polling numbers are going to continue to surge

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Speaker 5: even more and his popularity is going to go through

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Speaker 5: the roof.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I saw a meme earlier, and it's you know, it

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Speaker 5: was like two guys in the same like Superman type

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Speaker 5: suit tried to fight each other, and one was you know, Democrats,

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Speaker 5: the other was Conservatives.

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Speaker 7: They're both wearing the same thing.

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Speaker 5: So it's like everyone's going to be donning the Trump

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Speaker 5: mug shot, but for their own reason, and they'll be different.

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, Trump's face is

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Speaker 5: going to be absolutely everywhere, So.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I actually I actually think that it's gonna end up

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Speaker 7: helping him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the debate was on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about Nicki Haley's answer on abortion.

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Speaker 2: You are a young woman, you talk I bet Tons

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Speaker 2: as a New Yorker to other young women. What percentage

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Speaker 2: of young female voters do you think focus on abortion

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Speaker 2: almost to the exclusion of anything else, And what did

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Speaker 2: you think of Nicki Haley's answer in the debate?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Nicki Haley's answer was phenomenal. I think

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Speaker 5: she really got to the root of what it means

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Speaker 5: to focus on a candidate and their stands on abortion.

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Speaker 5: Because in my experience, a lot of the women that

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Speaker 5: I talked to, especially I live in New York City,

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Speaker 5: so you know, very liberal city.

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Speaker 7: People are so focused on the abortion issue.

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Speaker 5: And it's interesting because one of the first things I

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Speaker 5: ask them, I'm like, oh, have you got an abortion?

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Speaker 7: Are you planning to get an abortion? No?

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Speaker 5: No? Okay, Well, why is this the main issue that

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Speaker 5: you care about? And I think for a lot of people,

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Speaker 5: it's more of a principal thing. I think that they

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Speaker 5: think that they should care about it. So this is

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Speaker 5: where they've put all of their focus. And I think

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Speaker 5: people don't realize that just because you're voting for a

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Speaker 5: Republican doesn't mean that they are anti abortion in a

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Speaker 5: lot of cases. I mean, there are the examples of rape, incest,

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Speaker 5: detrimental health to the mother or the child, that an

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Speaker 5: abortion is still seen as acceptable even though.

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Speaker 7: They are pro life.

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Speaker 5: And I think a lot of these Democrats that people

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Speaker 5: don't realize when they're voting for it's not just allowing

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Speaker 5: abortion in the first trimester or because of these extreme circumstances.

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Speaker 5: They're sometimes allowing these abortions to be carried out.

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Speaker 7: At full term.

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Speaker 5: And I think that a lot of people would totally

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Speaker 5: disagree with but they don't realize it because in their

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Speaker 5: minds they think, oh, Republican anti abortion, Democrat pro abortion,

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Speaker 5: and just because they're a woman, they think that they

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Speaker 5: should have that right to choose what they do with

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Speaker 5: their bodies. I just think people misunderstand the issue, and

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Speaker 5: I think if people took a few minutes to really

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Speaker 5: dig a little deeper and see where the stances on

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Speaker 5: abortion differed, they would probably vote very differently.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that you live in New York, city.

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Speaker 2: You are starting to see many different places out there,

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Speaker 2: including Rutgers other colleges that are making the decision to

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Speaker 2: bring back masks.

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Speaker 3: What do you think in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three when you see a man wearing a mask?

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know what I think?

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Speaker 7: I actually it was funny. I was just in Whole

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Speaker 5: I was going up the escalator and there was a

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Speaker 5: guy coming down the escalator and he was clearly checking

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Speaker 5: me out. But who was wearing a mask? And I

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Speaker 5: felt I just felt disgust it. I'm like, who you are?

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Speaker 5: The anti man, especially the type of man that I

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Speaker 5: would ever want.

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Speaker 7: To be seen with. So no, I am I am repulsed.

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Speaker 7: I am very turned off by men.

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Speaker 5: And honestly, I mean not that I'm into women, but

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Speaker 5: if a woman in a mask, not somebody that I

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Speaker 5: would personally ever choose to be friends with, because I'm

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Speaker 5: not walking down the street with you if you're wearing

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Speaker 5: a mask. I mean even its it's insane outside right now,

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Speaker 5: just people on bikes are wearing masks.

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Speaker 3: I love, by the way, this idea.

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Speaker 2: So you're in Whole Foods and you're on an escalator

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Speaker 2: and a guy checks you out, and you were just

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Speaker 2: thoroughly disgusted, not because a guy was checking you out,

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Speaker 2: but because the guy checking you out was wearing a mask.

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Speaker 2: You were like, this is just a non starter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is listen, check me out all you

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Speaker 5: but your chance of ever being with me are at

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Speaker 5: a zero percent because you're wearing that stupid mask, and

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Speaker 5: I just I can't get behind it, and it drives

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Speaker 5: me insane. I mean, even when we were in the

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Speaker 5: height of COVID, I there's just like this, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's like a little mini fury that bubbles up inside

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Speaker 5: of you when you see people with masks on and

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Speaker 5: you just want to be like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: And especially I mean especially, like I just said, the

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Speaker 5: people outside. Hey, my dog she doesn't like masks. She

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Speaker 5: gets upset when I talk about mask.

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Speaker 2: What's your dog's name, by the way, it's it's Zora.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a great name.

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Speaker 3: So so.

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Speaker 2: Also, you did a video recently that I loved for

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Speaker 2: OutKick And by the way, we're talking to Charlie Arnold

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Speaker 2: and her dog Zoras in the background listening to us

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: When you did a hit saying I love toxic.

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Speaker 2: Masculinity, which the idea of toxic masculinity in general is

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Speaker 2: patently absurd because I haven't heard any but he talk

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Speaker 2: about toxic femininity, right, But explain what you think as

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Speaker 2: a woman when you hear this idea of toxic masculinity.

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Speaker 5: So I feel like toxic masculinity is actually the opposite,

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Speaker 5: because the things that are deemed toxic now in terms

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Speaker 5: of men are actually the things that make men men

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Speaker 5: and the things.

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Speaker 7: That I think should be celebrated.

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Speaker 5: Like I think that the idea of traditional gender roles

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Speaker 5: still really resonates with me, Like I understand that I'm

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Speaker 5: capable of doing so much more. And do I think

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Speaker 5: that I should be forced to stay home and you know,

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Speaker 5: work in the kitchen, do all the laundry, and clean

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Speaker 5: up the house exclusively. No, But I do believe that,

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Speaker 5: you know, a man should be able to be a man,

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Speaker 5: and I and I embrace those aspects of a man,

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Speaker 5: like I like when you know, for example, I love

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Speaker 5: when a man goes to the gym. I like when

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Speaker 5: he's strong. I like when he's sweaty. I like when

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Speaker 5: he feels compelled to speak his mind, even if you

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Speaker 5: know it's something that I don't want to hear, I like, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know when I you know, on the same token,

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Speaker 5: I like when a guy does all the things that

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Speaker 5: you know are chivalrous, Like I want a guy to

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Speaker 5: open the door for me. I don't want him to,

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Speaker 5: you know, let me do certain things. Even though some

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Speaker 5: women are like, oh, I can do it myself, you know,

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Speaker 5: lifting my suitcase up on the plane, I'm all for

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Speaker 5: a man being like I'm doing this.

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Speaker 7: I'm a man.

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Speaker 5: There's just so many things that I think women, you know,

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Speaker 5: and I also, you know, the idea of just.

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Speaker 7: Like taking control. I like that. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't need to be in control. I'm a very

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Speaker 5: I'm very much an alpha female. But I like when

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Speaker 5: a guide is able to take the reins, take the lead.

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Speaker 5: I don't see that it's putting me down or just

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Speaker 5: being dismissive in any way. So I'm all for toxic masculinity.

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Speaker 5: I want men to continue being men so that women,

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Speaker 5: at least women like me, can continue being women.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, by the way, none of this stuff is

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Speaker 2: particularly crazy. There is a difference biologically between men and women,

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Speaker 2: and that existed for basically all of humanity until like

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Speaker 2: five years ago, and one of the things that you

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Speaker 2: and I are fired up about, and we've talked about

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Speaker 2: it a bunch on this program is the idea that

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Speaker 2: a man could decide to identify as a woman and

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Speaker 2: win a women's championship. And we're going to talk with

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Speaker 2: Riley Gaines on the OutKick special. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: on Fox News on Sunday. But a big part of that,

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Speaker 2: I think for making the decision to move Sage Steel

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Speaker 2: at ESPN, who you know, you used to work at

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Speaker 2: ESPN as well, what does it say about where we

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Speaker 2: are as a society that an actual sports company. Many

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Speaker 2: people don't feel comfortable saying, hey, men who identify as

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Speaker 2: women shouldn't be women's champions.

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Speaker 3: How do we get here?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think we got here because people are afraid to

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Speaker 5: say anything. It's not that they do not feel that

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Speaker 5: that's how things are and how things should be. I

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Speaker 5: just think that people are afraid of being labeled transphobic

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Speaker 7: That's what happens.

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Speaker 5: I mean, even when I started speaking up about it,

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Speaker 5: as much as many people would come to me quietly

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Speaker 5: and say, oh my gosh, thank you so much for

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Speaker 5: saying this, you know, there was all the other people

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Speaker 5: that publicly would say, oh, I cannot believe you'd say this.

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Speaker 5: I thought that you were an ally, you know, I

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Speaker 5: thought that you supported LGBTQ rights. And in my response

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Speaker 5: to them is, you know, listen, the term ally, I

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Speaker 5: think is lame. I'm not going to like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to like, I guess exacerbate.

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Speaker 7: These liberal terms.

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Speaker 5: But I have no problem with people in the LGBTQ community.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody should have the same rights as everybody

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Speaker 5: else does, same opportunities. But that doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 5: can unfringe on a woman's space in order to exercise

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Speaker 5: what you now consider to be your right. So I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I just people just it's it's the same,

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Speaker 5: you know, same old playbook page from that the left

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Speaker 5: always you is they try to come at you immediately

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Speaker 5: with oh, you're hateful, you're transphobic, and then you suddenly

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Speaker 5: get scared to speak up, and then that forces you

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Speaker 5: to not, you know, really like take a hard stance,

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Speaker 5: which is what you're doing, what I'm doing, what Riley's doing.

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Speaker 5: But I think I think most people would agree that

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Speaker 5: this is just a common sense issue. This isn't a

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Speaker 5: political issue. It's very much common sense, and I'm hopeful

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Speaker 5: that sooner or later it'll get to the point where,

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Speaker 5: you know, like we had the Sam Ponders and saved

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Speaker 5: steals at ESPN. Now it's Sam Ponder alone on an island.

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Speaker 5: But hopefully eventually there'll be more people speaking up to

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Speaker 5: keep women's sports women's sports.

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Speaker 2: Aymen, Charlie, I will see you on Sunday. I hope

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Speaker 2: people will enjoy watching us ten o'clock eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 7: It's going to be a great show.

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Speaker 2: I hope so. I hope so. I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to go well. Ten o'clock eastern on Fox News. Charlie Arnault,

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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Appreciate all the good work

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Speaker 2: at out Kick.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Hie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Charlie Arnall.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I think you guys are going

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Speaker 2: to enjoy the show that we are doing at ten

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern on Fox News. I'm up in New York City.

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Speaker 2: It's why we were filming it. I'd love to hear

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Speaker 2: feedback on it. We haven't ever done an OutKick show

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Speaker 2: on Fox News before, but I think it's an important

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Speaker 2: to have this show every single day as well, because

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Speaker 2: it's just part of fighting battles for things that matter.

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Speaker 2: And I know so many of you out there, men

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Speaker 2: and women. You look around on a daily basis and

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Speaker 2: place where a man who decides to identify as a

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Speaker 2: woman is winning women's championships. And if you look around

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Speaker 2: and raise your hand and say that doesn't feel right

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Speaker 2: to me, somehow, you are the individual who has the

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Speaker 2: unacceptable opinion. A big part of winning in the marketplace

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Speaker 2: of ideas, I think is just making people feel like

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Speaker 2: they can say what they actually think. I don't expect

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Speaker 2: that you guys will have agreed with everything that I've

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Speaker 2: said all week long here, or anything that you agree

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Speaker 2: with everything that Bucker I have said over the past

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Speaker 2: several years, as we've been fortunate to sit here and

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Speaker 2: talk to you every day for three hours. But what

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Speaker 2: I would hope you have recognized is no one is

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Speaker 2: fighting harder for free speech than this show. And to

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Speaker 2: the extent that we can expand the universe of free

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Speaker 2: speech and have so many of you out there feeling

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Speaker 2: like you can speak out without having to be concerned

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Speaker 2: about losing your jobs. That's a big victory because we

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Speaker 2: are on the right side of history. I truly do

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Speaker 2: believe this, and I've been on the road. I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to get back home. I'm hoping I'm gonna make my

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Speaker 2: flight this afternoon so i can get back home for

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Speaker 2: high school football with my kids. But I've been on

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Speaker 2: the road for the last three or four weeks, as

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Speaker 2: you guys know, with my book, American Playbook, which I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you guys making the best selling nonfiction book in America.

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Speaker 2: And I've been away from home a lot. I've been

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Speaker 2: in a lot of hotel rooms, been all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I've met thousands of you who listen to this show

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Speaker 2: all over the country. You guys have been uniformly incredibly kind.

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Speaker 2: But what I hear from you, and this reason I'd

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Speaker 2: love getting out and being able to actually talk and

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Speaker 2: meet face to face. What I hear all the time

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Speaker 2: is from so many of you. Thank you and Buck

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Speaker 2: for doing this show. You guys say what I wish

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Speaker 2: I could say, And.

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Speaker 3: I don't take that privilege for granted.

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Speaker 2: The fact that we get to sit down and say

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Speaker 2: exactly what we think to the largest audience in radio

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Speaker 2: every single day. I don't take it for granted. I

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Speaker 2: really don't. But what I want to create is I

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Speaker 2: want to win these battles so that none of you

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Speaker 2: out there are concerned about whether or not you can

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Speaker 2: keep your job when you share your actual opinions. The

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Speaker 2: fact that we have created a world where a huge

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Speaker 2: percentage of people don't feel like they can say what

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Speaker 2: they actually believe is the pathway to totalitarianism, because you

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Speaker 2: know how that works. I remember back in the day

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Speaker 2: when Sada i'm Hussein would have his elections and he

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Speaker 2: would say, well, people in Iraq love everything that I do.

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Speaker 2: I just got ninety nine point five percent of the vote,

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Speaker 2: and they drag out the other point five percent and

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Speaker 2: they kill them next thing. You know, you'll learn what

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Speaker 2: happens if you're willing to challenge the Orthodoxy. For everybody

825
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Speaker 2: out there as we head into the weekend, challenge people

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Speaker 2: in power, challenge the Orthodoxy, speak truth no matter the consequences,

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Speaker 2: and join what I believe is a massive revolution that

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Speaker 2: is brewing in the United States.

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Speaker 3: As we move towards twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Speak truth to power, and I guarantee you we're going

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Speaker 2: to continue to do this every single day on this show.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for a Buck to get back. Looking forward

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Speaker 2: to Monday, but I've had a tremendous time talking.

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Speaker 3: With all of you this week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me do this for a living,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for giving me the privilege to speak

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Speaker 2: with you every single day for three hours. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back on Monday. I hope all of you have fabulous weekends.

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Speaker 2: Good luck at all the high school football games. I

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Speaker 2: hope everybody's team wins. This has been playing Buck. Another

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Speaker 2: week in the books.