WEBVTT - Music Saved Me with Darryl "DMC" McDaniels-Part Two 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.880 Music Saved Me. Welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast. 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.760 I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and this is part two 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:12.639 of Music Saved Me, featuring the legendary iconic Darryl dmc 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.800 McDaniels from Run DMC. We're going to pick up where 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.480 we left off. I was just about to introduce Darryl 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.640 to a rising star in the music world who I 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.840 think is probably going to be a massive star. Let's 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.120 see if Darryl agrees. A couple of weeks ago, I 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.760 had a young man who's a huge rising star in 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:38.320 my book. His name is Dylan Cartlitch and a couple 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.120 of years well, let me just say, multi instrumentalist from 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.760 the UK a couple of years ago signed a deal 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:50.080 with Universal. He was raised on all kinds of music, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.600 but he came up through the foster care system and 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:57.640 a really really tough life grown up and this young man, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.240 I don't want to say kid, but I feel like 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.080 I'm old, so anyway means a kid. But he basically 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.080 took lemons and made them lemonade and and and sort 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.640 of beat the odds. And he's so positive and optimistic 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.679 and just amazing. So I was doing my research on 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.120 him and he had the single he just released in November. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:21.640 It's called New Day. And so I read all about 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:26.840 his story and I'm already impressed because he's somehow, at 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.960 his young age, he figured out how to how to 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.760 be optimistic and to turn it around. I mean, there's 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.200 when you're when you're young and hungry. Yeah, maybe you're 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.800 exposed to stuff that you don't necessarily know how to 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.959 understand round pack and then later I could get you. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.800 But he already sort of went through that, just coming 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.080 through what he went through as as a child, and 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.400 he was taken out of the home away fares stories. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.080 That's why we started the Feelix organization. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.720 Yeah, and so he and and so I listened to 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.960 his song, and every time I tell my husband this story, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.880 I start to get teary because I listened to his 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.160 song and I could hear the smile on his face 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.280 and the optimism and the hope and the light and 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.160 all of this stuff, and it just burst into tears. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.679 And I'm thinking postmenopausal. No, it has to be you know, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.239 this young man just has it all and that. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.000 But so they do have it at an early age, 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:23.359 they do. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.600 So I said, I finally get him on the show. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.679 It's bold and he's able to just express him now too. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.480 Oh yeah. And they had this like documentary follow him around. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.680 He was a waiter at night. He would DJ and 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.160 rap and do hip hop and all this stuff so 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.639 much fun. So I say to him, I think he's 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.160 in his early thirties right now. And I said to him, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:47.440 so tell me about your earliest influences and your earliest 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:52.120 experiences with music. And he started to tell me about 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.359 some of the artists that he listened to, and let 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.200 me just I'm gonna play for you. I have a 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:58.400 cute up here, are you ready. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.000 I remember going to my one of my older brothers 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:02.800 from my you know, adoptive family. I went to one 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.600 of his wedding and I never forget the first time 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.560 that I heard It's Tricky by run DMC. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:08.200 I must have. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.200 I must have been about six years old, right, and 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:12.720 I was. I was allowed to go to the party 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.320 my brother, you know, it was his wedding, and so 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:15.840 one of my older brothers like, Okay, we're gonna look 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.280 after you and you can stay till late, so like 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.680 get in no bedtime today, and then that song I 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.880 just requested over and over again and was dancing and 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:22.840 dancing and dances run. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.560 DMC was a huge band for me too, So I 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:30.040 totally I can hear that song right now. It's it's 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:37.520 okay and then yes, that's d MC. I bet it 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.560 would just make him so thrilled to note that he 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.400 influenced you. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.680 Wow, that's crazy. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.520 So can I just say. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:45.040 All of it? 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.320 It's all connected, It's so connected, it's all connected. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.480 Let me can I play this chorus from the song 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.960 for you? Okay? This is this is Dylan? 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.840 Listen, it's a smile. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:18.000 Wow. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.160 I mean just amazing. So as soon as I found 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.880 out coming on this show, won't and that's okay, that's okay. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:31.680 Who figures that out? That's amazing. So I'm just curious 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:36.360 if if I were to beam one Dylan Cartilage with 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.799 his new record deal and all of his amazing music 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.680 in here to ask you a couple of questions, would 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:41.279 that be okay? 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.360 Yes? Whoa, that's amazing. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.520 He's standing by in the UK right now, it's like 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.360 seven hours ahead and I offered this, so. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.440 Look, we have adopted family. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.880 Yeah, we have a lot of people have more in 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.360 common than we don't. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.200 Yeah, do you want to bring that over here, that's crazy. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.400 Yeah, but what I was gonna say. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.960 I do a lot with elementary school kids, and Yellen's 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.720 a prime example of they have all the they have 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.520 all the capabilities and abilities to deal with emotional problems 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.120 early in their lives. But a lot of times we 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.080 do this. Don't think like that, don't talk like that. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.440 You're too young to talk like that. Now you just 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.760 scarred this kid for life because you just told them 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.640 that that emotion that I was suppressed was the wrong 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.240 thing to have. Yes, So when they get in their 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.400 teens and adolescence, when that same thing comes up for 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.560 them to end because the mom and dad ain't around, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.760 they're gonna cut, they're gonna drink because they're subconsciously pushing it. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.840 If they come at you three and four years old, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.480 you're supposed to send them down and say why are 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:43.440 you talking like that? 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:44.479 Where'd you get that? 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.560 And they won't explain it, but we go you're too 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.640 young to talk about that, don't do that anymore. So 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.080 they hold it and when it comes to them later 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:56.400 or they remember, no, that's the wrong thing. So for 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.880 him to be go through hell, yeah, I was a 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.960 forster kid for five years. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:04.280 My brother. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.279 Once all of this came out, my brother tells me, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.080 d don't you know if you never asked him that, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.640 they would have never told you. What happened was my 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.320 birth mother didn't come back to get me. And when 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.400 my brother told me that, I remember this kid named 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.760 Oscar who I thought was my cousin. And I remember 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.920 one day Alfred's telling me Oscar's mother here to gain him. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.839 I think it's my aunt. I remember the day Oscar left. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.680 He never came back. He was a foster kid that 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.840 got played because the whole idea is to get you 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.920 back with the family, but a lot of times the 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.080 kids can't go back to the families. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.239 So there was this other girl. She came. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.960 I think she probably was like I probably was four, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.680 she probably was two or three. 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:50.280 Then she cried all night. I'm talking, and I. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.320 Remember I was trying to stay off, thinking I was 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.440 going to stay off four to sea. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.120 I woke up the next morning she was gone. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.560 But my brother saiddee, there was a lot of people 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.880 you thought you was your cousins. Who the reason why 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.360 he don't see him no more? Those are fussy. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:02.599 Kids like you. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:03.239 Oh. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.880 So my brother tells me he heard my mother and father. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.159 This one be in my movie too. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.320 I mean, I'm doing a series because I got so 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.400 much stuff I need to doing. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.600 Okay, so I got to do a series about this kid. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.800 But long story short, my father goes to my my 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.000 mother goes to my father. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.000 There's a true story. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.760 My brother tells me, I'm in the room playing with 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.000 my toys, and my mama goes. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.200 What are we going to do with this one? Yeah, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.320 you hear them? No, I don't hear. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.000 My brother hears it, and my father goes, you know what, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.000 I think we're going to adopt this just like this. 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.440 What are we gonna do with this one? 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.320 I think we're going to adopt this one because you 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.920 never know, he might grow up to change the world. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.680 Oh goosebumps. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.120 So these kids, no matter how. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.720 Here's this wonderful, amazing I'm trying to make him bigger. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:59.400 Scream here Dylan me Darryl, Hello Dylan DMC. And I 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:00.680 can't believe I'm not crying. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:01.640 Hello DMC? 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.000 How are you? How are you doing? I'm doing good? 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.080 Telling us honor to meet you, man. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.320 No, the honor is all mine. Link couldn't have explained 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.400 it better. So I yeah, I grew up in the 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.880 foster cair system. I had so many different families that 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.680 I went to stay with. I got it at one 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.840 point and didn't work out. My foster mom is an 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.480 amazing woman. She's fostered over forty six kids. She's had kids, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.400 and I'm one of those kids. And I was saying 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.760 at my foster brother's wedding, I was only six years old, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.040 and I somehow managed to beg and plead that I 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.040 could go, and then yeah, one of my brother foster 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.559 brother's friends had to look after me. And it was 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.360 a lovely day. It was obviously all about my foster 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.160 brother getting married, but it was the day that I 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.640 got struck by lightning and discovered hip hop when I 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.120 heard it tricky, and so the whole wedding then became 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.680 about me requesting the DJ to play over again. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:49.360 I was dancing. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.400 It was crazy, but yeah, that's the story. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.080 Wow, it's only six, like you when you started, you 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.440 were telling me years old. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.839 Yeah, wow, that we got a lot in common. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.000 I was six years old when I heard on the 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.000 Doobie Brothers and stuff like that. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.720 Wow, it's crazy how it goes full circle like that, right, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.719 And it really set me off on a journey and 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.679 to discovering that music, and although I was only six 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.000 years old, I feel like and it was really hilarious 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.439 because I saw an interview that you did where you 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.040 said that that song was something that you wanted to 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.960 impress Paul McCartney. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.400 With and kind of like all the white people. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.960 It's hilarious because my foster family are old white people, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.520 so young black kid adopted by old white people. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.040 And even the laughs infections. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:37.440 I know. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.840 I told Dylan how special you were, and I just 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.080 I could feel him right through the screen, and I 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.320 just I needed to connect you to Dylan. Did you 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.959 have any questions that you wanted to ask Yeah. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.440 Yeah, I've got a couple of questions, if that's okay, okay. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.079 One of the questions is you've touched on it a 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.320 little bit, so for me, one of the questions I 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.360 wanted to ask you is a lot of artists struggle 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.120 with identity and belonging. It's kind of like a you know, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.960 the running joke, the kind of weird kid at the 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.880 back of the class of the NPC making beats and yeah, lap, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.040 when did you did you have a moment where you 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.480 were like, this is who I want to be as 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.360 an artist, and this is who. Like what I want 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.320 to say, like, what was that eureka moment for you 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:15.839 in your like in your life, in your career. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.200 Well, prior to the music, I felt prior to the music, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.320 I felt like I didn't belong in this universe or whatever. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.080 But the thing that gave me a place for myself 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.760 was comic books. Because when I was growing up, I 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.120 went to Catholic school, I was a straight A student, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.440 I woke, I read comic books. So I was this geeky, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.320 nerdy kid that got teased, bullied and picked on and 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.040 growing up in Hollis Queens. You know, if you ain't 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.400 in the gang, if you ain't selling drugs, if you 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.160 don't steal the bikes, if you don't steal the candy 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.560 bars and stuff like that, if you're not doing what 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.880 everybody else is doing. And I didn't want to do that, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.600 you fill out a place. So the only time I 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.280 saw geeky, nerdy, awkward, confused people, people who were trying 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.960 to figure life out but were bad, as was the 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.439 comic books. Peter Parker, doctor Bruce Banner and all of 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.520 these guys were educated. But even Clark Kent had to 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.400 play clumsy and stuff like that even though he was Superman. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:20.320 So my Eureka moment was when hip hop came along. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.000 Like I was telling you, Lynn, I can't. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.760 Yo, I'm gang banging, and I'm Darryl Meck you know more, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.880 I don't do that. So with the same confidence that 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:35.120 people was expressing a false sense of power in a 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.960 negative way, I said, I'm gonna take my family in 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:44.439 school and wearing glasses and eating chicken and colic greens, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:48.800 And with the same attitude enthusiasm that they brag about 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.160 all of this rough, so called rough negative stuff, I'm 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.959 gonna talk about, you know, going to Saint John's University 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.360 and my mother and father in the same way. So 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.480 when I'm trying to say, Dylan, my secret is this, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.760 and I tell kids when I go to speak at school, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:09.040 my whole life on stage Persona was me just pretending 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.120 to be for the most powerful entergy in the hip 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.640 hop universe. I was pretending to be a superhero on 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.920 the microphone because I'm not a gang bang, I'm not 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.480 a villain, I'm not a thug, I'm not a pimphanyer. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.079 But with the same attitude enthusiasm that they do that 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.920 negative stuff. I'm gonna put that to all my positive stuff. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.080 But the only reason I had confidence to do that 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.080 it was I looked at the superheroes. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.720 This is gonna blow your mind, Dylan. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.640 Most superheroes have adopted or forced to. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.840 Care situation in their lives. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.960 Superman saw his whole He didn't just lose his parents, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.280 he lost his whole world. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.080 Came here to Earth. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.480 His parents said Clark when he was of age, Sit down, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:54.920 there's something we need to tell you. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.640 Like my mama didn't me. What do you mean, Clark? 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.240 We love you, but you're not really from here, and 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.680 that gave him a sense of purpose. Peter Parker lost 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.240 his parents, had to be raised by Aunt May Batman. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.120 Bruce Wayne saw his parents getting murdered in front of him, 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.320 so he had to be raised. So all of these 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:17.360 superheroes have forced the care and adoption situation, and even 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:18.280 goes deeper than that. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.960 Two of the most infamous people in. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.040 The history of our existence of this planet have the 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.280 same situations. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.480 Me and you have who you're talking about, d Moses. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.080 Moses' stories mother put him in the river because they 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.160 were killing people in his town. He floated down the river, 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.120 got picked up, but Pharaoh's daughter took into the palace. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.480 And then when Moses gives up age, this happens to him, Dylan, 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.960 and this gives me the confidence to do what you 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.080 was doing to me with the record I just heard. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:53.320 Moses gets a call from up above, Yo, yo yo, Moses, 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:54.000 who's that. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.760 Not down here? Up here? Huh is God? 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.680 Moses, I need you to go tell Pharaoh letting my 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.920 people go. Now, if you think about Moses, people forget 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.680 Moses murdered a man. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:07.440 He was a murderer. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.959 He killed a man in self defense and Moses needed 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:17.400 Aaron to dictate for him because Moses had a speech impediment. See, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.520 people don't remember that. So God read the Bible. Moses 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.160 had issues. He was a murderer. Number one, he wasn't 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.680 from Egypt. He's an outcast like most of us feel. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.040 And he couldn't talk. He had a speech stuttering problem. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.200 So God told him to go there. And his other one, Jesus, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.680 Mary comes home and says, excuse. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:42.960 Me, Joe, that something I need to tell you. What. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.240 So Joe could have said get out of here, this 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.680 and that, but he said, all right, this kid must 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.240 have a purpose and he raised them. So I from 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.920 my Eureka moment was comic books. But and it gave 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.800 me the confidence to want to get on the mic 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.160 and tell people. If I didn't have hip hop and 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:09.000 rock and roll to express myself without the confidence that 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.040 comic books gave me, I probably want to never started 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.080 saying rhymes up on stage in front of people, because 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:16.520 for me, it was just in my basement. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:17.160 Was for me. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.320 I didn't know what I was doing would touch a 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.320 lot of other people. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.720 No, And I think it's amazing. I think I really 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.120 really really vibe with that because it resonates to me 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.960 how you talk about faith and also as storytelling, but 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.640 also how storytelling and comic books can give you those 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.040 stories out reaching your potential and like you know, not 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.240 holding on, you know, not being seen to kind of 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.920 have to aspire to this perfect life or this perfect person. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.240 Everybody has problems and everybody can reach the potential. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:45.760 You know. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.680 It's more about like what you do with what you've 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.640 got as opposed to like how it started, you know, And. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.400 Yeah, we are perfect just the way we are, no 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.320 matter even if we had traumatic situations in our lives, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.240 our situations not to find who we are we do 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:01.400 you know what I'm saying. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.960 And I'm I'm a massive, massive like I massively resonates 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.920 with me too. I've been there. I was listening to 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.200 you know, when we were in the waiting room, I 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:10.880 was having to listened to you know obviously what you 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.080 were saying about being in that room and getting pancread dieders. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.560 I've been in that a similar situation where I've been there, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.680 had those you know, addictions, going on those things, and 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.280 then where somebody's sitting down and saying, listen, if you 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.200 don't stop drinking, like you know, this is this is 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:24.720 this You're. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.800 Not on the head now, you know, And yeah, for real, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:27.600 you know. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.240 Self medicator and going through that stuff that I really yeah, 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.320 really really it's really inspiring to you talk about that 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.200 that darylne I just want you to know that, Yeah, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:35.960 your music, even though I was six years old and 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.240 I couldn't yet form you know, crazy sentences or understand 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.080 contexts like it hit me and I felt it, and yeah, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.360 it goes bigger beyond that. Money is Dylan Michael Cartage 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:46.960 DMC initials you know. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:53.520 Oh why not both the wow guess even deeper whoa. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:53.680 The levels though? 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.120 And I also definitely think there should be a comic 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.960 book now, like, definitely a comic book where the super 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.440 hero is a black samurai and it's like coming down 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.360 from Moses and it's you he goes on his thing. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:05.879 I want to see an anime of this now, like 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:06.679 a DMC. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.520 That would be brilliant. Helling right, wow, they know your 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:14.160 initials a DMC too, yeah, yeah, ceiling wow. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.480 We'll be right back with more of the Music Saved 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.639 Me Podcast. And by the way, if you like this podcast, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.680 you are going to love our companion podcast called Taking 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.680 a Walk. It's hosted by my dear friend buzz Night 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.280 and you can find it wherever you get your podcasts. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.879 Welcome back to the Music Saved Me Podcast, the podcast 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.800 where we discuss the healing powers of music with some 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.679 of the biggest names in music as well as up 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:43.240 and comers. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.320 I have one more question for you, if that's okay, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.080 Elynn and Daryl, Yes, okay, because I think this is 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.000 a really important question because, like you say, I really 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.000 love what you do with the foundation and everything, and 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.880 obviously you know your music and even like the what 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.880 it's done for hip hop and where it's taken hip 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.800 hop too, and I think I'm a recipient of that. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.320 I think I've been able to enjoy the blend of 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.920 so many different styles and so many different cultures because 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.439 it's been popularized by amazing people like yourself and the 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.560 forefathers of the game, you know, essentially, you know, the 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.560 question that I have is that, like you know, there's 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.399 a lot of people that come through, whether it be 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.399 the projects that come through adversity, that come through you 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.520 know again, that want to find culture, that want to 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 find belonging. And I think that's particularly prominent to you know, 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.680 children who have been fostered or have been adopted, and 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.360 you know, you found out you're adopted when you're thirty five, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.800 you know, after already you know, reinventing yourself artistically, you know, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.879 personally over times in your life, and when what happened 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.960 for you spiritually, like in yourself, when you found out 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.880 that the people that had showed you what the world 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.240 has to offer, kindness, love, compassion, all the things that 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.080 you'd you know, that showed you right from wrong, all 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.400 these different things that you didn't those weren't the people 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.840 that necessarily brought you into this world, you know, genetically 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.280 or whatever, like, what did they do? 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:55.400 Well? 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.879 The first thing is I look at my birth mother 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:07.440 and my adoptive mother as one entity of motherhood. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.440 But I didn't know that until I had to go 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:11.439 through this to see that. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.400 It was my birth mother's job just to get me here, 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.760