1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. Welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and this is part two 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: of Music Saved Me, featuring the legendary iconic Darryl dmc 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: McDaniels from Run DMC. We're going to pick up where 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: we left off. I was just about to introduce Darryl 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: to a rising star in the music world who I 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: think is probably going to be a massive star. Let's 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: see if Darryl agrees. A couple of weeks ago, I 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: had a young man who's a huge rising star in 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: my book. His name is Dylan Cartlitch and a couple 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: of years well, let me just say, multi instrumentalist from 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the UK a couple of years ago signed a deal 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: with Universal. He was raised on all kinds of music, 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: but he came up through the foster care system and 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: a really really tough life grown up and this young man, 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say kid, but I feel like 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm old, so anyway means a kid. But he basically 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: took lemons and made them lemonade and and and sort 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: of beat the odds. And he's so positive and optimistic 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: and just amazing. So I was doing my research on 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: him and he had the single he just released in November. 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: It's called New Day. And so I read all about 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: his story and I'm already impressed because he's somehow, at 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: his young age, he figured out how to how to 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: be optimistic and to turn it around. I mean, there's 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: when you're when you're young and hungry. Yeah, maybe you're 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: exposed to stuff that you don't necessarily know how to 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: understand round pack and then later I could get you. 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: But he already sort of went through that, just coming 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: through what he went through as as a child, and 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: he was taken out of the home away fares stories. 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: That's why we started the Feelix organization. 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he and and so I listened to 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: his song, and every time I tell my husband this story, 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: I start to get teary because I listened to his 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: song and I could hear the smile on his face 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: and the optimism and the hope and the light and 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, and it just burst into tears. 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking postmenopausal. No, it has to be you know, 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: this young man just has it all and that. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: But so they do have it at an early age, 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: they do. 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: So I said, I finally get him on the show. 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 2: It's bold and he's able to just express him now too. 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And they had this like documentary follow him around. 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: He was a waiter at night. He would DJ and 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: rap and do hip hop and all this stuff so 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: much fun. So I say to him, I think he's 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: in his early thirties right now. And I said to him, 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: so tell me about your earliest influences and your earliest 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: experiences with music. And he started to tell me about 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: some of the artists that he listened to, and let 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: me just I'm gonna play for you. I have a 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: cute up here, are you ready. 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: I remember going to my one of my older brothers 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: from my you know, adoptive family. I went to one 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: of his wedding and I never forget the first time 58 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: that I heard It's Tricky by run DMC. 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: I must have. 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: I must have been about six years old, right, and 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: I was. I was allowed to go to the party 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: my brother, you know, it was his wedding, and so 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: one of my older brothers like, Okay, we're gonna look 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: after you and you can stay till late, so like 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: get in no bedtime today, and then that song I 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: just requested over and over again and was dancing and 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: dancing and dances run. 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: DMC was a huge band for me too, So I 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: totally I can hear that song right now. It's it's 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: okay and then yes, that's d MC. I bet it 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: would just make him so thrilled to note that he 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: influenced you. 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: So can I just say. 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: All of it? 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: It's all connected, It's so connected, it's all connected. 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Let me can I play this chorus from the song 78 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: for you? Okay? This is this is Dylan? 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Listen, it's a smile. 80 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean just amazing. So as soon as I found 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: out coming on this show, won't and that's okay, that's okay. 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Who figures that out? That's amazing. So I'm just curious 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: if if I were to beam one Dylan Cartilage with 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 1: his new record deal and all of his amazing music 86 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: in here to ask you a couple of questions, would 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: that be okay? 88 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: Yes? Whoa, that's amazing. 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: He's standing by in the UK right now, it's like 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: seven hours ahead and I offered this, so. 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Look, we have adopted family. 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a lot of people have more in 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: common than we don't. 94 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to bring that over here, that's crazy. 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I was gonna say. 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: I do a lot with elementary school kids, and Yellen's 97 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: a prime example of they have all the they have 98 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: all the capabilities and abilities to deal with emotional problems 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: early in their lives. But a lot of times we 100 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: do this. Don't think like that, don't talk like that. 101 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: You're too young to talk like that. Now you just 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: scarred this kid for life because you just told them 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: that that emotion that I was suppressed was the wrong 104 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: thing to have. Yes, So when they get in their 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: teens and adolescence, when that same thing comes up for 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: them to end because the mom and dad ain't around, 107 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: they're gonna cut, they're gonna drink because they're subconsciously pushing it. 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: If they come at you three and four years old, 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: you're supposed to send them down and say why are 110 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: you talking like that? 111 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: Where'd you get that? 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: And they won't explain it, but we go you're too 113 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: young to talk about that, don't do that anymore. So 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: they hold it and when it comes to them later 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 5: or they remember, no, that's the wrong thing. So for 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: him to be go through hell, yeah, I was a 117 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: forster kid for five years. 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: My brother. 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: Once all of this came out, my brother tells me, 120 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: d don't you know if you never asked him that, 121 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: they would have never told you. What happened was my 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: birth mother didn't come back to get me. And when 123 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: my brother told me that, I remember this kid named 124 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Oscar who I thought was my cousin. And I remember 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: one day Alfred's telling me Oscar's mother here to gain him. 126 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: I think it's my aunt. I remember the day Oscar left. 127 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: He never came back. He was a foster kid that 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: got played because the whole idea is to get you 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: back with the family, but a lot of times the 130 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: kids can't go back to the families. 131 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 2: So there was this other girl. She came. 132 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: I think she probably was like I probably was four, 133 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: she probably was two or three. 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: Then she cried all night. I'm talking, and I. 135 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: Remember I was trying to stay off, thinking I was 136 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: going to stay off four to sea. 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I woke up the next morning she was gone. 138 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: But my brother saiddee, there was a lot of people 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: you thought you was your cousins. Who the reason why 140 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: he don't see him no more? Those are fussy. 141 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: Kids like you. 142 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 4: Oh. 143 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: So my brother tells me he heard my mother and father. 144 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: This one be in my movie too. 145 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm doing a series because I got so 146 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: much stuff I need to doing. 147 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so I got to do a series about this kid. 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: But long story short, my father goes to my my 149 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: mother goes to my father. 150 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: There's a true story. 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: My brother tells me, I'm in the room playing with 152 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: my toys, and my mama goes. 153 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: What are we going to do with this one? Yeah, 154 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: you hear them? No, I don't hear. 155 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: My brother hears it, and my father goes, you know what, 156 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: I think we're going to adopt this just like this. 157 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: What are we gonna do with this one? 158 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: I think we're going to adopt this one because you 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: never know, he might grow up to change the world. 160 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Oh goosebumps. 161 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: So these kids, no matter how. 162 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Here's this wonderful, amazing I'm trying to make him bigger. 163 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Scream here Dylan me Darryl, Hello Dylan DMC. And I 164 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm not crying. 165 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: Hello DMC? 166 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: How are you? How are you doing? I'm doing good? 167 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Telling us honor to meet you, man. 168 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: No, the honor is all mine. Link couldn't have explained 169 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: it better. So I yeah, I grew up in the 170 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: foster cair system. I had so many different families that 171 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: I went to stay with. I got it at one 172 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: point and didn't work out. My foster mom is an 173 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: amazing woman. She's fostered over forty six kids. She's had kids, 174 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: and I'm one of those kids. And I was saying 175 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: at my foster brother's wedding, I was only six years old, 176 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: and I somehow managed to beg and plead that I 177 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: could go, and then yeah, one of my brother foster 178 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: brother's friends had to look after me. And it was 179 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: a lovely day. It was obviously all about my foster 180 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: brother getting married, but it was the day that I 181 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: got struck by lightning and discovered hip hop when I 182 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: heard it tricky, and so the whole wedding then became 183 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: about me requesting the DJ to play over again. 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: I was dancing. 185 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: It was crazy, but yeah, that's the story. 186 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Wow, it's only six, like you when you started, you 187 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: were telling me years old. 188 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that we got a lot in common. 189 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: I was six years old when I heard on the 190 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: Doobie Brothers and stuff like that. 191 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: Wow, it's crazy how it goes full circle like that, right, 192 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: And it really set me off on a journey and 193 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: to discovering that music, and although I was only six 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: years old, I feel like and it was really hilarious 195 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: because I saw an interview that you did where you 196 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: said that that song was something that you wanted to 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: impress Paul McCartney. 198 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: With and kind of like all the white people. 199 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: It's hilarious because my foster family are old white people, 200 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: so young black kid adopted by old white people. 201 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: And even the laughs infections. 202 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: I know. 203 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: I told Dylan how special you were, and I just 204 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: I could feel him right through the screen, and I 205 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: just I needed to connect you to Dylan. Did you 206 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: have any questions that you wanted to ask Yeah. 207 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a couple of questions, if that's okay, okay. 208 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: One of the questions is you've touched on it a 209 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: little bit, so for me, one of the questions I 210 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: wanted to ask you is a lot of artists struggle 211 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: with identity and belonging. It's kind of like a you know, 212 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: the running joke, the kind of weird kid at the 213 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: back of the class of the NPC making beats and yeah, lap, 214 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: when did you did you have a moment where you 215 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: were like, this is who I want to be as 216 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: an artist, and this is who. Like what I want 217 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: to say, like, what was that eureka moment for you 218 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: in your like in your life, in your career. 219 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: Well, prior to the music, I felt prior to the music, 220 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: I felt like I didn't belong in this universe or whatever. 221 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: But the thing that gave me a place for myself 222 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: was comic books. Because when I was growing up, I 223 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: went to Catholic school, I was a straight A student, 224 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: I woke, I read comic books. So I was this geeky, 225 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: nerdy kid that got teased, bullied and picked on and 226 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: growing up in Hollis Queens. You know, if you ain't 227 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: in the gang, if you ain't selling drugs, if you 228 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: don't steal the bikes, if you don't steal the candy 229 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: bars and stuff like that, if you're not doing what 230 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: everybody else is doing. And I didn't want to do that, 231 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: you fill out a place. So the only time I 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: saw geeky, nerdy, awkward, confused people, people who were trying 233 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: to figure life out but were bad, as was the 234 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 4: comic books. Peter Parker, doctor Bruce Banner and all of 235 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: these guys were educated. But even Clark Kent had to 236 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: play clumsy and stuff like that even though he was Superman. 237 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: So my Eureka moment was when hip hop came along. 238 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Like I was telling you, Lynn, I can't. 239 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: Yo, I'm gang banging, and I'm Darryl Meck you know more, 240 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: I don't do that. So with the same confidence that 241 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: people was expressing a false sense of power in a 242 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: negative way, I said, I'm gonna take my family in 243 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: school and wearing glasses and eating chicken and colic greens, 244 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: And with the same attitude enthusiasm that they brag about 245 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: all of this rough, so called rough negative stuff, I'm 246 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 4: gonna talk about, you know, going to Saint John's University 247 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: and my mother and father in the same way. So 248 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: when I'm trying to say, Dylan, my secret is this, 249 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: and I tell kids when I go to speak at school, 250 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: my whole life on stage Persona was me just pretending 251 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: to be for the most powerful entergy in the hip 252 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: hop universe. I was pretending to be a superhero on 253 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: the microphone because I'm not a gang bang, I'm not 254 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: a villain, I'm not a thug, I'm not a pimphanyer. 255 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 4: But with the same attitude enthusiasm that they do that 256 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: negative stuff. I'm gonna put that to all my positive stuff. 257 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 4: But the only reason I had confidence to do that 258 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: it was I looked at the superheroes. 259 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: This is gonna blow your mind, Dylan. 260 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: Most superheroes have adopted or forced to. 261 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Care situation in their lives. 262 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: Superman saw his whole He didn't just lose his parents, 263 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: he lost his whole world. 264 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: Came here to Earth. 265 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: His parents said Clark when he was of age, Sit down, 266 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: there's something we need to tell you. 267 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: Like my mama didn't me. What do you mean, Clark? 268 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: We love you, but you're not really from here, and 269 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: that gave him a sense of purpose. Peter Parker lost 270 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: his parents, had to be raised by Aunt May Batman. 271 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: Bruce Wayne saw his parents getting murdered in front of him, 272 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: so he had to be raised. So all of these 273 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: superheroes have forced the care and adoption situation, and even 274 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: goes deeper than that. 275 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: Two of the most infamous people in. 276 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: The history of our existence of this planet have the 277 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: same situations. 278 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: Me and you have who you're talking about, d Moses. 279 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: Moses' stories mother put him in the river because they 280 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: were killing people in his town. He floated down the river, 281 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: got picked up, but Pharaoh's daughter took into the palace. 282 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: And then when Moses gives up age, this happens to him, Dylan, 283 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: and this gives me the confidence to do what you 284 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: was doing to me with the record I just heard. 285 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: Moses gets a call from up above, Yo, yo yo, Moses, 286 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: who's that. 287 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: Not down here? Up here? Huh is God? 288 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: Moses, I need you to go tell Pharaoh letting my 289 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: people go. Now, if you think about Moses, people forget 290 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: Moses murdered a man. 291 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: He was a murderer. 292 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 4: He killed a man in self defense and Moses needed 293 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: Aaron to dictate for him because Moses had a speech impediment. See, 294 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: people don't remember that. So God read the Bible. Moses 295 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: had issues. He was a murderer. Number one, he wasn't 296 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: from Egypt. He's an outcast like most of us feel. 297 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: And he couldn't talk. He had a speech stuttering problem. 298 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: So God told him to go there. And his other one, Jesus, 299 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: Mary comes home and says, excuse. 300 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: Me, Joe, that something I need to tell you. What. 301 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: So Joe could have said get out of here, this 302 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: and that, but he said, all right, this kid must 303 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: have a purpose and he raised them. So I from 304 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: my Eureka moment was comic books. But and it gave 305 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: me the confidence to want to get on the mic 306 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: and tell people. If I didn't have hip hop and 307 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: rock and roll to express myself without the confidence that 308 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: comic books gave me, I probably want to never started 309 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: saying rhymes up on stage in front of people, because 310 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: for me, it was just in my basement. 311 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: Was for me. 312 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was doing would touch a 313 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: lot of other people. 314 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: No, And I think it's amazing. I think I really 315 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: really really vibe with that because it resonates to me 316 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: how you talk about faith and also as storytelling, but 317 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: also how storytelling and comic books can give you those 318 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: stories out reaching your potential and like you know, not 319 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: holding on, you know, not being seen to kind of 320 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: have to aspire to this perfect life or this perfect person. 321 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: Everybody has problems and everybody can reach the potential. 322 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: You know. 323 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: It's more about like what you do with what you've 324 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: got as opposed to like how it started, you know, And. 325 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are perfect just the way we are, no 326 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: matter even if we had traumatic situations in our lives, 327 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: our situations not to find who we are we do 328 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 329 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: And I'm I'm a massive, massive like I massively resonates 330 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: with me too. I've been there. I was listening to 331 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: you know, when we were in the waiting room, I 332 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: was having to listened to you know obviously what you 333 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: were saying about being in that room and getting pancread dieders. 334 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: I've been in that a similar situation where I've been there, 335 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: had those you know, addictions, going on those things, and 336 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: then where somebody's sitting down and saying, listen, if you 337 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: don't stop drinking, like you know, this is this is 338 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: this You're. 339 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: Not on the head now, you know, And yeah, for real, 340 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: you know. 341 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: Self medicator and going through that stuff that I really yeah, 342 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: really really it's really inspiring to you talk about that 343 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: that darylne I just want you to know that, Yeah, 344 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: your music, even though I was six years old and 345 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't yet form you know, crazy sentences or understand 346 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: contexts like it hit me and I felt it, and yeah, 347 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: it goes bigger beyond that. Money is Dylan Michael Cartage 348 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: DMC initials you know. 349 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: Oh why not both the wow guess even deeper whoa. 350 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: The levels though? 351 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: And I also definitely think there should be a comic 352 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: book now, like, definitely a comic book where the super 353 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: hero is a black samurai and it's like coming down 354 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: from Moses and it's you he goes on his thing. 355 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: I want to see an anime of this now, like 356 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: a DMC. 357 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: That would be brilliant. Helling right, wow, they know your 358 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: initials a DMC too, yeah, yeah, ceiling wow. 359 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Music Saved 360 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: Me Podcast. And by the way, if you like this podcast, 361 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: you are going to love our companion podcast called Taking 362 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: a Walk. It's hosted by my dear friend buzz Night 363 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: and you can find it wherever you get your podcasts. 364 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Music Saved Me Podcast, the podcast 365 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: where we discuss the healing powers of music with some 366 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: of the biggest names in music as well as up 367 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: and comers. 368 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: I have one more question for you, if that's okay, 369 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: Elynn and Daryl, Yes, okay, because I think this is 370 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: a really important question because, like you say, I really 371 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: love what you do with the foundation and everything, and 372 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: obviously you know your music and even like the what 373 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 3: it's done for hip hop and where it's taken hip 374 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: hop too, and I think I'm a recipient of that. 375 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: I think I've been able to enjoy the blend of 376 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: so many different styles and so many different cultures because 377 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 3: it's been popularized by amazing people like yourself and the 378 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: forefathers of the game, you know, essentially, you know, the 379 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: question that I have is that, like you know, there's 380 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: a lot of people that come through, whether it be 381 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: the projects that come through adversity, that come through you 382 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: know again, that want to find culture, that want to 383 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: find belonging. And I think that's particularly prominent to you know, 384 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: children who have been fostered or have been adopted, and 385 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: you know, you found out you're adopted when you're thirty five, 386 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, after already you know, reinventing yourself artistically, you know, 387 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: personally over times in your life, and when what happened 388 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: for you spiritually, like in yourself, when you found out 389 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: that the people that had showed you what the world 390 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: has to offer, kindness, love, compassion, all the things that 391 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: you'd you know, that showed you right from wrong, all 392 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: these different things that you didn't those weren't the people 393 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: that necessarily brought you into this world, you know, genetically 394 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: or whatever, like, what did they do? 395 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: Well? 396 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: The first thing is I look at my birth mother 397 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: and my adoptive mother as one entity of motherhood. 398 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: But I didn't know that until I had to go 399 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: through this to see that. 400 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: It was my birth mother's job just to get me here, 401 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: but it was my adoptive mother and my mother who 402 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: raised me to get me where I was supposed to go, 403 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: just like with you with your foster Kima. But that's 404 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: your mom. I love that that's your mom. They're the 405 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 4: ones that knew you had a purpose and a destiny. 406 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: And every time I tell people that, they're blown away 407 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: by that it was my birth mother's job just to 408 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 4: get me here, but my adoptive parents to get me 409 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: where I was supposed to go. So without both of 410 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: those situations, I would have never made it where I 411 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: was supposed to go. So it's a huge, huge, huge 412 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: example of purpose and destiny. It's a huge example of 413 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: your situation doesn't find who you are. But also it's 414 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: also an example of none of your victories come by 415 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: just you. Now, we have everything necessary for us to succeed, 416 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: but a lot of times because of drugs, because of 417 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: a lack of self esteem because of not having an 418 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 4: understanding of how this universe works. Sometimes we don't achieve 419 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: those goals and we end up in the grave or 420 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: the crazy house or the jail. And when you look 421 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: at the places that we all come from, I don't 422 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: care whether it's America or if it's the UK or 423 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: in Asia. All of the circumstances are the same. It's 424 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: just different different stories. But most of these kids have 425 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 4: everything necessary to succeed. And what I mean by that 426 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: is it's important that you said the forefathers. Now when 427 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: you listen into the message, it's like a jungle. Sometimes 428 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 4: it makes me wonder how I keep from going under. Oh, 429 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: the message is a mental health record. People overlook, don't 430 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 4: push the anger that we have in the violence and 431 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: then reaching out and attacking everybody. But look what hip 432 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: hop was able to do because of all of the 433 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: different styles and culture of music that we sample, from 434 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: jash to R and B to disco to funking, all 435 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: of that. When the message came out, mostly every record 436 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: was a message record. Here's what it is, broken glass 437 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: and is that? But if you remember correctly, Dylan, when 438 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: the soul sonic force in Africa. Bamboda came out with 439 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: Planet Rock. The message was, here's what it is, But 440 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: the Planet Rock, we know a place where everybody's eating 441 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: and there's no fighting. Soul, Sonic Force, mister Biggs, Pow 442 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 4: Wow and mc globe. 443 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: We emphasized to show. 444 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: We got ego, make thish not crocket by day as 445 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: the people say, live it up, shuck snow, work or play. 446 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: Our world is free, be what you want. Just be 447 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: that record. 448 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: The message was the record of the message, but Planet 449 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 4: Rock was the vision which gave those kids. The Zulu 450 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: Nation was the biggest street gang in New York City, 451 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: the Black Spade, but they changed their name from the 452 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: Black Space to the Zulu Nation and started doing things 453 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: for the culture themselves in their society. So out of 454 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: the negativity that they were inflicting upon their own, their 455 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: neighborhoods and themselves, they turned that and took that power 456 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: and started sharing it with everybody else. So me, Run DMC, 457 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: ll COOJ Public Enemy Dayla Soul, we are offsprings of that. 458 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: But it was Run DMC who had the boldness to 459 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 4: put that on the forefront which touched you. But what 460 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: I'm trying to say is I always tell these kids, 461 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: is this hip hop culture or even the music business 462 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, It wasn't created by the executives 463 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: and CEOs that run it. They have nothing without us, 464 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 4: and most all from the even from the blues. The 465 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: blues is the roots. Everything else is the fruits, who 466 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: is created by individuals just like you did it from 467 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: the same situations and circumstances. 468 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: It's just that the music, turn the mic on, turn 469 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: up the music. 470 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: The music, the art form of it gives us the 471 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: courage to not be ashamed of who we are, where 472 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 4: we come from. 473 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: But more importantly, by doing that, it shows. 474 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: Us where we are able to go if we want 475 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: to go there. 476 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: And I cannot thank you enough that I really appreciate it. 477 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: And I literally got to talk to you until the 478 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: couch come home. The last thing I will say because 479 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm a bit of a gibby job, but I will 480 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: talk it till the couch come home. 481 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: But I love it. 482 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: And one of the things that I have to ask 483 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: you is is anything on a musical tip as an artist, 484 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 3: is there anything that you feel like the new school 485 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: has lost or that you feel like is the responsibility 486 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: to get taken through to the next generation. 487 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: You just said the word it's all good us. 488 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: Oh geez, we are not mad at what the new 489 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: school or we're not mad at what the younger generation 490 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: is doing. 491 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at what they're doing. I'm mad at 492 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: what they're not doing. 493 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is the typical rapper 494 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 4: or MC, the typical hip hop person dealing the typical 495 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: before we started getting these record deals, and even when 496 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: we got these record deals, before it became part of 497 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: the music business, the typical rapper was twelve to twenty 498 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: five years old. We were young, but we were talking 499 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: about history, economics, society, social issues. You said the word 500 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 4: the only thing that's wrong with this generation of hip 501 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: hop is that they're not being responsible and even as 502 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: an artist overall, you know what I'm saying, and what 503 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: I mean by that is generationally the perfect examples of 504 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: who to look up to how to do this was 505 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: always there. Let's take Neil Young for example. There was 506 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 4: a shooting at Kent State University where the soldiers killed 507 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: four college students. Neil Young woke up the next morning, 508 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 4: not because of his manager, not because of his publicist. 509 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: He ran to the studio and he wrote Ohio ten 510 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: Soldiers and Nickson's Coming. That song is a hip hop song. 511 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: Go listen to Neil Young's Ohio. He knew I got 512 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: a responsibility. Another person, John Fogerty. They wrote records like 513 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: Fortunate Son, because when I was a kid, I'm hearing 514 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: presidents and governments. They wasn't disrespecting nobody. Their most important, 515 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 4: their most important in entity and in the business is 516 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: the people in the audience. And the nine times out 517 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: of ten people look at me now, Like I tell kids, 518 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: I wasn't I'm sixty now. I wasn't sixty when I 519 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: changed the world. I wasn't fifty when I changed the world. 520 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't forty when I changed the world. I wasn't 521 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 4: thirty when I changed the world. 522 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: I wasn't twenty. 523 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: Me and running Jay was fresh out of high school, 524 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 4: and we were change, not just making videos and selling records. 525 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Unemployment that a record high, people coming, people going, people 526 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: born to die. We learned that from people like Marvin Gaye, 527 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: who was only known for love and sex. 528 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: But he had to make What's going on and he 529 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: did it against Barry people. Notice Berry Gard. He said, 530 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: don't do that. Marvin is going to ruin you. 531 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: But when he went out there and sung that for 532 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: that first audience, they gave him a standing ovation. 533 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: So the only thing but it's a mumble wrap. 534 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: I was speaking in the school in the bron and 535 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: the kids asked me, because I'm fifty now that I 536 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 4: was fifty at the time, DMC, what do you think 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: about mumble rap? 538 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: They want me to hate it? 539 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: Oh, you kids ain't saying nothing and this and that 540 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: you're young, you young whipper snappers. But I hit and 541 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: went I could relate to it, and you should have 542 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: seen the whole attitude of the class chains I said, 543 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 4: what do you mean by that? How could you supposed 544 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: to hate it? I said no, I could relate to 545 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: mumbo map mumble rap. And they said, why you're saying that, DMC. 546 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: I said, you gotta understand something. The only difference between 547 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: my generation and your generation is this. They said the 548 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 4: same thing about us hip hop to Hibbit to Hibbit 549 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: Dibby hip. They ain't say nothing. I said, when we 550 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: got criticized, we stopped the music and the fun and 551 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: we wrote it's like that. 552 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: We wrote hard times. We wrote the message. 553 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: I said, Tupac isn't celebrating in hip hop because he 554 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: had Doug Life tattooed on him and he went to 555 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: jail and the kids were, what do you mean by that? 556 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 4: I said, Toothpock is love for two reasons. And this 557 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: blew my mind when I said it, because the kids know, 558 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: but they're afraid to do it because they're worried about 559 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: how somebody's gonna think about them about being cool. I said, 560 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 4: Tupac is worship than hip hop for two reasons. Damn 561 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 4: Mama and Brenda had a baby and they said yo, 562 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: and the kids said, dish yo. Those records sound ill. 563 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: They went to that emotional state and they realized that, 564 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: oh wow, we forgot Tupac did something that was important 565 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 4: and responsible in the midst of all of fame, fortune 566 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 4: and the money. So the only thing that's missing right 567 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: now is get your money, have your fun. But what's 568 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: going on, Dylan, is they're making records about sipping the 569 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: syrup or shooting or taking the drugs and driving a 570 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: fancy car and having a sex. When the next single 571 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: we talked about this. You can make a record about 572 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: the strip club, but why your next record isn't about 573 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: fully clothed women like your aunts and your grandmothers, or 574 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: your force to care mother who raised forty six forced 575 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: the kids and put them on through coll They're shamed 576 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: of rhyme about those reality things that exist because they're 577 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 4: worried about their street Craig, and you know this dealing 578 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: in the streets. When I was coming up, the pimps, 579 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: the pushers in the gang bangers. If you could play 580 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: a violin, if you could do ballet, if you could 581 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: play some basketball, or if you were smart as hell. 582 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: The pimps, pushes and the drug dealers were responsible too, 583 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: because when they saw that in those young people, they say, yo, 584 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: young buck, get your ass off this corner. 585 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: You don't need to be out here. 586 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: So now, in the music business, anything that's diluted, polluted, 587 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: anything holy or sacred with power in our communities or 588 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: cultures will get diluted, polluted and destroyed. Once you're in 589 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 4: the entertainment business. What I mean by this, there's tupax 590 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 4: out there, there's tretches and Naughty by Natures out there. 591 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: Naughty by Nature made a whole song about sex in 592 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: it and use one profane word. Yeah, you know it's 593 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: a record about sex in it. But it's done in 594 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: a creative, artistic manner where people look at Tretch and 595 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 4: say you made this record, and trusted say you goddamn right. 596 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: There's a lack of responsibility with the artists. Why arts 597 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 4: succeeds where politics and religion fails. So the first thing 598 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: they're gonna do one and you want to take over 599 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: the world. Kill Dylan, kill dmc kill the songwriters, kill 600 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: the playwrights, clear the journalists, clear to clear anybody that's 601 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: creating dialogue and content and stuff like that about the 602 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: real issues, like this talk show here, this brings people together. 603 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: They don't want that, so they're gonna get rid of 604 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: us so they can control us. We know, hip hop 605 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: like punk rock, fuck the establishment. We're gonna address the 606 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: way that we dress, were gonna make the music. 607 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. 608 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: So you gotta have somebody explain to me you gotta 609 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: have guts to be an artist. 610 00:30:59,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 611 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: I love that, Thank you, Thank you so much. And 612 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: it's really interesting that you because I feel like there 613 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: was a real romance between hip hop and rock music 614 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: in the nies because it was an energy, like you said, 615 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: never spirit spirit, that's the kindred spirits, you know, like 616 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: I almost feel like hip hop has maybe recently been 617 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: a little bit spoilt because there are people that put 618 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: them on from that struggle that, like you say, it's 619 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: kind of like been popular for so long in the mainstream. 620 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: It has been like the biggest music genre in the 621 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: world for like the last forty years. Yeah, I feel 622 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: like almost there's it's almost had a little bit too good. 623 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's over genres like country or whatever that're 624 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: coming back in a new way. Yeah, And I really 625 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: hope that that that friction, you know, spouts up that 626 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: pressure to you know, get that more socially conscious responsible. 627 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: Well, for sure, I think that, Yeah, the way that 628 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 4: you do it, you just you can't do it as 629 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: an a gender. You just have to do it, you 630 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Because there was a time, you know, 631 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: once one Cube, when ice Cube left n w A. 632 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: Remember when he went solo. Now, everybody was like n 633 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: w A was it's necessary, but we didn't need a 634 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 4: hundred NWA groups. 635 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: But when ice Cube. 636 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: Left NWA and did America's Most Warning, he was brilliant 637 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: because now he explained the emotional feeling of what he 638 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 4: was saying on the NWA record. He said, if you 639 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: go listen to America's most warning he was he was 640 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: explaining what this individual who wasn't born that way was 641 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: going through and why. Perfect example is the ghetto Boys. 642 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: My mind playing see everything is mental, my mind playing 643 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: tricks on me. Scarface wasn't like these rappers of the 644 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: day praise me because I'm moving weight and selling coke 645 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 4: and cracking guns. Most of the hip hop records were like, yes, 646 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 4: that's a bitch ho motherfucking nigga. 647 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: Nigga do we celebrate that like it's cool? 648 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: Right? 649 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: Think about it, and a lot of these young kids 650 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: think they got to do that to be liked and 651 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: be successful. But if you listen to the ghetto Boys, 652 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: my mind playing tricks on me. Scarface was saying, at night, 653 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: I can't sleep, Lord, show me another way. I don't 654 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 4: want to do this, will it is Rhyme is saying, 655 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: I'm paranoid. I'm about to shoot the old women in 656 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: their car just ordering Popeyes like me. Bushwick Bill thought 657 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: he was fighting somebody on Halloween and it was the 658 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: drugs overtaking him. So they were telling stories that resonated 659 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: with people's spirit and souls, which. 660 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: Freedom a lot of us. 661 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: But now it's being promoted that shoe in killing and 662 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: selling drugs is cool. So these kids don't know no better. 663 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: Why because the people like your songs ain't being heard 664 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: in my songs ain't being heard. They exist. So it's 665 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: up to us to fight the good fight. All we 666 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: gotta do, Dylan is just keep on showing up. That's 667 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: how we win. 668 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: Will thank you, Dalla. It's been honoring a pleasure. And 669 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: I have to send you through the new album too. 670 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: It's in fact, please it's going to show up and 671 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: it's all about responsibility and again wow. 672 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: See look see you know all of this, yes, right 673 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: you and you know all of this because you are that. 674 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: That's so crazy every time I say something that he's 675 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: already doing it. 676 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: All right. So the weirdest thing is is and I'm 677 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: getting the wrap signal because I have I have to 678 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: say I knew this was going to happen. I saw 679 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: it when he started talking and he started telling me 680 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: a story, and I thought back to the story that 681 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: you had. I you know, we've known each other twenty 682 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: plus years, so I know. I just I had this 683 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: feeling that you would connect like that and that he 684 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: needed to hear what you had to say, and you 685 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: need to hear him. 686 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: This song is sick too, man. I want to cannot 687 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: that song. 688 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: I have a link. I want to think. 689 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 4: Pete is incredible in everything in your flow, Oh my god. 690 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: Last Note Records is pretty special and they're the ones 691 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: that helped us make this happen today, and they were 692 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: very excited about it as well, so I wanted to 693 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: thank them for helping it and Dylan. Sorry, I'm taking 694 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: the camera just for a second. 695 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: Hi, Hellolyn, how are we doing? 696 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: Going good? 697 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't he have a great studio? 698 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: Yes? 699 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: That was absolutely and it's been amazing. So it's been 700 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: such a cool experience for me. I'm a fun girl 701 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: too much. 702 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: I know it's all good man. We are fans of 703 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 4: all each other. Yeah, because lyrics were just that little 704 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: bit wait too here you've only delved in a little bit. Daryl, 705 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: thank you so much for coming on the show. 706 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm inspired by coming here today. 707 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: I was inspired by him. 708 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: And then I know, really know if the lyrics in 709 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: his song you know what I'm saying, because everybody got 710 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: somewhere that little bit just made me. 711 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: Realize it ain't that bad. Matter of fact, it's good. 712 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: It's nothing wrong, that's right, you know what I'm saying. 713 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: The bill's late, it's late, but everything's beautiful. Right. 714 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: You're beautiful, Daryl. You're such a beautiful person. Oh, thank 715 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: you your spirit and everything. And now I know why 716 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: I enjoyed myself so much. Thank you so much, and 717 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: just keep doing what you're doing. I didn't get a 718 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: chance to talk to you about your children's book. You 719 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: are on your way to Boston two years ago and 720 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: you were going listen to this and you're going to 721 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: my nephew's school. My brother, who also plays in a band, 722 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: the Macharette Band, he said to me, you're going to 723 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: have who come to your house, to your to your studio. 724 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: And I said Darryl, And he said they spoke at 725 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: our school. He came to speak it and my nephew 726 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: was in sixth grade and he heard you speak and 727 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: he was so inspired by you. And I thought, that's 728 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: so weird, because I called you and you texted and 729 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: you said, I'm on my way to Boston because of 730 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: the book. This was just two years ago. 731 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: Yes, wow, going to his school. 732 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: That's crazy schools in the city of Boston. You could 733 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: have gone to you went to my nephew. 734 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 735 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh my good real, Yeah, that was so nuts. 736 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'll go to a lot of schools 737 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: to speak to the kids. 738 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do, and you're amazing for it. And that's 739 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: why I wanted to connect you because I felt like 740 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: he needed to take Well, you had to put down 741 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: that was that was happening. Well, thank you for being 742 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: on music save me. And I might have to have 743 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: you come back again. 744 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: I will, yeah, I will. 745 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: You might have to