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Speaker 1: Pushkin.

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Speaker 2: You've heard of Jackson Pollock, but you may have never

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Speaker 2: heard of Lee Krasner, an artist Pollock's wife and the

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Speaker 2: woman who made him famous and in doing so, changed

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Speaker 2: everything about the landscape of American modern art. My name

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Speaker 2: is Katie Hessel. I'm an art historian and the author

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Speaker 2: of a book called The Story of Art Without Men.

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Speaker 2: I've spent the past decade uncovering the stories of great

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Speaker 2: women artists, but I've never come across an artist more

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Speaker 2: influential than Lee Krasner. Today, I'm in your feed to

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Speaker 2: bring you a preview of my podcast from Pushkin Industries

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Speaker 2: and Samasdat Audio. This is Death of an Artist Krasner

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Speaker 2: and Pollock. You can find the show wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcasts. I hope you enjoy this preview. It's a

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Speaker 2: cool summer evening in Paris, August nineteen fifty six. An

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Speaker 2: American artist called Lee Krasner is at a friend's place.

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Speaker 3: It was a magnificent apartment, was a huge skylight, easels everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Paris is Lee's mecca, the home of modern art. Now

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Speaker 2: in her late forties. She's finally here.

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Speaker 3: Looking at what was happening in Paris and who was

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Speaker 3: doing what, who was painting, who was showing what? Galleries

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Speaker 2: But this isn't just a work trip.

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Speaker 3: Lee was there to recharge her batteries because of a

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Speaker 2: A turbulent relationship to say the least, his ego, alcoholism,

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Speaker 3: And as she settled in on her friend's couch for

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Speaker 3: the night, about three in the morning, the phone rang.

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Speaker 3: Her host answered the phone and didn't say anything, but

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Speaker 3: Her host saw that agony in her face, the absolute pain,

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Speaker 3: for what he described as an endless half hour, during

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Speaker 3: He was actually terrified for her life because their apartment

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Speaker 2: Later that same day, Lee would get on a plane

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Speaker 2: But the story of Lee and Jackson doesn't end there.

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Speaker 2: After spending weeks in a daze, unable to sleep, she

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Speaker 2: all think about art. I'm Katie Hessel, art historian and writer,

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Speaker 2: and this is Death of an Artist. Season two, The

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Speaker 2: Krasner and Pollock, Episode one Crash. Okay, so Audrey, please,

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Speaker 2: can you introduce yourself who you are and what you do?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. You should do that.

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Speaker 4: You know you should say, here's Ardrey Flak and she's

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Speaker 2: Audrey flat is ninety two years old and is as

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Speaker 4: I had a studio on Eighth Street and Third Avenue.

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Speaker 4: My studio was in a condemned building. The floors were

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Speaker 2: A few blocks up was a dive bar called the Cedar.

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Speaker 4: The Cedar was, you know, the place that everybody went, smoky, crowded.

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Speaker 4: Jackson liked to sit towards the back. His face was bloated,

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Speaker 4: One night I went to the cedar, Jackson wandered over.

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Speaker 4: One of the girls who followed the rock stars groupies groupies.

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Speaker 2: And it was there at the Cedar that Jackson met

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Speaker 1: Ruth was unbelievably sexy.

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Speaker 2: By this point, Jackson had been married to Lee for

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Speaker 3: Jackson had carried on his affair in secret, well secret

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Speaker 2: That's Mary Gabriel, a journalist who wrote the book Ninth

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Speaker 2: Street Women, all about the women of the American modern

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Speaker 3: Affair, everyone else in their community was well aware of

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Speaker 2: A few months after getting together, Ruth started spending more

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Speaker 2: It was ten am and already he reaped of booze.

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Speaker 2: The hottest ticket in town.

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Speaker 3: That was exactly what Ruth and Edith needed to hear

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Speaker 2: They got into Jackson's convertible. It was getting dark out

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Speaker 1: He did started to scream, and he laughed. He speeded

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Speaker 5: Girl came up to me and she's patting me, and

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Speaker 6: I was holding his hand, and they covered me and

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Speaker 3: I said, go over there to where the car.

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Speaker 2: Is and I'll be watching you and come back and tell.

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Speaker 1: Me if he's all right.

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Speaker 6: And she did, and she came back and I said,

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Speaker 6: is he alive? She said yes, I said, swear by God,

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Speaker 1: So I knew.

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Speaker 2: Both Jackson and Edith were dead in only a few hours.

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Speaker 2: The art world would find out. That's coming up. After

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Speaker 3: The funeral at the Springs Chapel was somber and silent.

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Speaker 3: This was where the locals from Springs were buried, the

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Speaker 2: If this story had finished here, Jackson might have been forgotten.

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Speaker 1: It is then, at fifty two million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars, his work would go on to sell for eye

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Speaker 2: His paintings would influence filmmakers, musicians, fashion, you name it.

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Speaker 4: When you enter a Pollock painting or entering out of space,

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Speaker 2: Many of us have been told a certain story about

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Speaker 2: so much better. I'm Katie Hessel, and I've spent the

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Speaker 3: Nobody knew Pollack. He was just a figure in the village,

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Speaker 3: a drunk. You're kicking all these Jackson Pollock paintings.

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Speaker 4: When are you going to deal with the paper your

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Speaker 3: This shy, good looking young man appeared at this art opening,

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Speaker 2: One fells who she reset the entire market, not just

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Speaker 3: If it hadn't been for Lee Krasner, Jackson Pollock would

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Speaker 2: That's all coming up on Death of an Artist, Season two,

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Speaker 2: Krasner and Pollock. Death of an Artist Krasner and Pollock

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Speaker 2: is produced by Pushkin Industries and Samasdat Audio. Clem Hitchcock

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Speaker 2: Dasherlitz at Sina and Joe Sykes. Sound design by Peregrin Andrews.

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Speaker 2: Original scoring and our theme were composed by Martin Ustwick.

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Speaker 2: Fact checking by Arthur Gompertz. Special thanks to Jacob Weissberg.

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Speaker 2: I'm Katie Hessel.