1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ooh, my compliments to the test tube. It's one more thing. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm strong and getty. One more thing. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Now the chef the test tube, I got it. I 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: have no guess what that's going to be. But first 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: they joke from Saturday nine Live, a. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Newfold shows that since twenty sixteen, support by black voters 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: for Democratic candidates has dropped from ninety two percent to 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: seventy eight percent. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: Or don't make this our fault. Seventy eight percent is. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: Still a lot for contact. Seventy eight percent black people 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: is enough to make white liberals leave the county be grateful. 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: The only other people to get seventy eight percent of 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: the black vote was the North and Kendrick lamar All thought, 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for black voters, y'all wouldn't even be 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: a party anymore. You'd be the Democratic small get together. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: So we were talking a little bit earlier on the 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: radio show about some of the joe that were being 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: made on Saturday Night Live, and somebody made the point 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: that on the text line that they can make those 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: jokes because Michael Chase a black guy, and you can 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: make joke about your own circle, you can't joke about 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: somebody else's circle. I can complain about my mother, but 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: my husband cannot complain about my mother, or I'd kill him, right. 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: I remember hearing that a long time ago. If your 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: wife or girlfriend or whatever starts complaining about her mother or. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Sister, you just gotta listen to them. You can't join 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: in at all, don't. Don't fellas if you're young, young 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: enough to have avoided that bullet, trust us when we 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: say that's let her vent all you want do not 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: add a syllable. 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting because you can understand why you'd make that mistake, 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: because usually when somebody's bitching about something, they're asking for 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: you to join in with the pitching. That's, in fact, 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: like always that's the case. 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: And if you both bond more quickly over what they 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: don't like than over what they like. 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they're complaining about the way they got 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: treated by United Airlines or their uber driver or the 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: restaurant or whatever your boss. You just join in because 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: it makes them, you know, a bonding experience. But man, 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: you can't do that with somebody's with a woman's sisters 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: or or mom. 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah interesting, yeah, uh so, uh this is not surprising. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I guess I love this headline lab grown meat is 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: proving to be a grotesque misadventure. 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: I am amazed at how many restaurants I go to 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: who have who have that as an option? 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Lab grown? Well, I don't know what. No, Now, the 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: like impossible burger that's vegetable based, spiced, it has the 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: consistency of me. So that's different. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: I see that places, and then I see what would 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: they call lab grown? Would they call that something? 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: Would? Uh? Some supporters, including Bill Gates and Richard Branson, 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: prefer the euphemism cultivated meat. I don't actually know. 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: I just I just see a lot of places where 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: they're often fake meat burgers or fake. 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: Meat veggie burgers. You think, yeah, bean bean, Jed. I've 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: had some of those that are terrific. Anyway, the lab 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: grown meat revolution looks like it's over, says Julian Mellanton, 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: food consultant. News Company is advised to alternative protein companies. 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Are you about to explain what lab grown meat is? Uh? Yeah, 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: that's part of it, okay, because have you? I think 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: we've talked about this, but I don't remember the first Well, 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: the first lab grown burger was demonstrated more than a 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: decade ago. And billions of pounds have been thrown at 66 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: the technology pounds money. This is a British report. It 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: involves extracting cells derived from animal fetus is delicious and 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: cultivating the cells in sterile bioreactors. That sounds so delicious, 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: A process that takes a lot of energy and expense. 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: I want to catch up and salt on the embryo 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: whatever you just said. 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cultivated meat, said this food consultant. It's going 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: to go down as one of the biggest failures in 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: food history. Business schools will be presenting lessons on lab 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: grown meat. No kidding, I didn't know that. That came 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and went without me. I don't know if I've ever 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: had it. I don't think I have. 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: We were told that this innovation would transform how we 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: eat and farm, but this month leading industry figures admitted 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: the game was all but up, which is where you 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: come in. 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Well, of course it would be a very very big 84 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: deal if you could grow meat that in it, So 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be it wouldn't be like the impossible stuff 86 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: is just as it's not meat at all, but it's 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: designed to taste like, Yeah, this would actually be meat 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: in theory. It would be exactly like you know, the 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: the hip of a cow, whatever that is, flank steak 90 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: or hamburger steak or whatever. I'm guessing it tasted horrible, Is. 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: That what it did it in No, actually, I'm told 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: it was decent enough, but people were just horrified by 93 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the idea of it. It is a bad idea. Well, 94 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: I was disgusted the first time I heard it, and 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: I have no reason to reject science or alternative means 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: of getting something. It was an instinctive, tenth of a 97 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: second reaction. Yeah, that's interesting. 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: No, I didn't finish what I was gonna say, is 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: obviously this would be such a huge revelation because you 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: don't need gazillions of cattle around the world. I used 101 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: to work in feed lots with tens of thousands of cattle. 102 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: That I mean, when you got the fact that they 103 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: flatulate and what that is doing to the environment. 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: But just to the poop, my god, the poop. 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the amount of poop, and then feed that you've 106 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: got to give them, and water that you've got to 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: give them, and all the employees you need to have, 108 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: and then the injecting all the various chemicals in them 109 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: that everybody does that may or may not affect the meat. 110 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: This would get away from all of that. But you're 111 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: saying it didn't work. 112 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: One executive at one cultivated meat company. Uh uh, there's 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: a valley of death. We're not going to cross is 114 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: in an industry without a massive infusion of public investment. 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: The chief executive of Impossible Foods, which only creates plant 116 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: based arizonts meat products, acknowledge that the political mood has 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: changed for everyone. Food security and competitiveness are now back 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: on the agenda. The alternate protein bubble has burst. 119 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: It's funny that nobody is hitting on what you said. 120 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: You just had kind of an instinctual. 121 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: They do, they get to it. It never stood a chance. 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: The economics are always stacked against meat bioreactors. The process 123 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: requires pharmaceutical industry level lab conditions, very expensive nutrients which 124 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: amount to about two thirds of the cost, specialized labor, 125 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: and long time scales. Optimistically, producers would be doing well 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: to hit sixty three dollars per kilo, so that'd be 127 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, two and a half pounds thirty you know, 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: thirty bucks a pounds roughly has a break even price 129 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: break even? Are we talking to hamburger steak. It's expensive 130 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: either way, just whatever they call it. I don't know. 131 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: But the real reason is not so much economics. To 132 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: your point is it is a lack of demand expressed 133 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: in the form of public disgust. Our Attitudes to food 134 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: have been shaped by psychology, culture, family, and tradition. Only 135 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: weirdos are impressed by cells from a bioreactor. 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: It's funny that we have a knee jerk reaction to 137 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 2: meat grown in a test tube. But that living thing 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: standing out there with you know, a heart and lungs 139 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: and kidneys and everything like that, and hopes and dreams 140 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: and hopes and dreams. You kill it and cut it 141 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: up and drain the blood out of it and cook it. 142 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that, But we've been doing it. It's 143 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: an evolution thing. 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: I suppose as you load the cown and the truck 145 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: is thinking I never went to Europe, right, Sorry, um, yeah, yeah, 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: that's you know. I wonder if it'll come together at 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: some point. Although most of the representations of alterna foods, 148 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: whether it's eating bugs or alternative proteins. So we were kids, 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: that was a big eating bugs. Oh yeah, we're all 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna be eating bugs by the time you're an adult 151 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: buyer reactors. 152 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: All of it was based on what was the worm craze? 153 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: Were we gonna eat worms? 154 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, my god, this conversation is 155 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: making me sick. 156 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: For some reason, I got involved in the worm craze 157 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: for a while. In what sense My shop teacher in 158 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: high school went all in on worms, So this would 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: have been late seventies, early eighties. 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I guess he. 161 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: Went all in on worms when he thought that was 162 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: going to be the craze and converted his whole basement 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: into a worm farm and had uh tens of thousands 164 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: of worms and boxes wow, and the right lighting and 165 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: humidity and everything like that. And one time they went 166 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: on vacation and I fed the worms. There's like fifty 167 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: thousand head a worm that I was I was taking 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: care of ed. 169 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: I love it. 170 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: I was going in their basement, I was feed in mine. 171 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: I had to like dig up the dirt aerate it, 172 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: and then put the warm food in there and get them. 173 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: The right water, good gig. And he just thought that 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: this was going to be the thing. Wow, people were 175 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna switch. 176 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: To worms, and then it never panned out, And I 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: remember they just let them all loose in their garden 178 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: after like two or three years of. 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: All this work and effort, waiting for the great worm 180 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and craze to catch hole. Note to self play Pink 181 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Floyd's waiting for the worms. Uh. Yeah. What I started 182 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: to say was, I think all of these alternate food 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, or they're not crazes, they're like crazes talking 184 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: about how it's going to be a crazy Yeah, they're 185 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: all based on the assumption of never ending population growth. 186 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: At least in part, we'd all be starving and you 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: just couldn't come up with the food. And that hasn't 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: been the problem. 189 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And in fact, I was hoping we might 190 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: get to and probably will in the next couple of days. 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: A survey of all the countries around the world where 192 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: their governments are trying desperately to get people to have babies, 193 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: and how there's not a single program that's showing any 194 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: significant success. 195 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: And I would hope not any any trip or dollar 196 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: amount or whatever that could convince you to take on 197 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: the task of being a parent, right, not good? 198 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, and more significantly, I think even than that is 199 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: that if you have, for whatever reason, suppressed the most 200 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: fundamental urge there is other than you know, breathing food 201 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: and water to reproduce. 202 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: Government's not gonna be able to talk you into it. 203 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: I can't believe people think they can. I just yeah, 204 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: I just think that's nuts. 205 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I get why they're trying, but man, it's a long 206 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: shot at best. So you take a girl out to 207 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: have some nice lab grown flesh, take her back to 208 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: your place. Gross. 209 00:10:53,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: So why isn't there a bigger movement towards smaller ports 210 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: and restaurants that that's practically like, you know, the way 211 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: the culture change was around drunk driving and smoking. Why 212 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: isn't there more of a push for smaller portions? 213 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: I think because we're a fatter country than we are 214 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: a drunk one. I think a lot of big, heavy 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Americans don't want to hear it. They want giant portions. 216 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: Well, how about all the you know, this is usually 217 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: driven by often by people I don't like, But like, 218 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: why isn't the academic lefty already skinny you know, Manhattan 219 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: based media crowd pushing for smaller portions everywhere? It just 220 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: seems like that would be a good idea. 221 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a really interesting question. 222 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: I would I would like that. I'm even though I 223 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: have no self control, most of us don't. When when 224 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: Applebee's or whoever brings out the burger that's the size 225 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: of your freaking head and enough French. 226 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: Fries to choke a horse, it's just like, what is this? 227 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: Why? 228 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I just I now, I'm at the point 229 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: in my life that I appreciate it when they have less. 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm just surprised there wouldn't be a craze for 231 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: shrink Flation is happening everywhere. Shrink the portion sizes instead 232 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: of up in the price, make the portion smaller. 233 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but graying talk show hosts don't drive that market. 234 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: It's hungry young people. I don't know, Hanson, where do 235 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: you fall? Are you pleased when you get a giant whatever? 236 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: You think? Awesome? This place is great. Look at that Breedo. 237 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: It's a sizement Folkswagen. No, not at all. I had 238 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: one the other day and I just knew. Now I 239 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: just cut it in half. Yeah, the other part goes 240 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: home and then I end up throwing that away. 241 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 242 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: I've had friends where we've decided, let's remember for the future, 243 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: let's always order one thing and split it from now 244 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: on always because they're way too big. Yeah, but maybe 245 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: we're not representative of most people, like you're saying. Given 246 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: my brother, who's quite the eater, I don't think he 247 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: gets excited about giant portions the huge mountain French fries is. 248 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: It's so cheap and so easy for them to do. 249 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: And if you're the hungry type, but you you love that. 250 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but from a free market standpoint, if there were 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: much fewer, would you stop going there? Like you just 252 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: if Chili served small portions of fries, I would stop 253 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: going in there and go to Applebee's because they have 254 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: enough French fries to push out in a. 255 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Wheelborrow me personally, or am I a two hundred and 256 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: thirty pounds thirty two year old just about most people? Yeah, 257 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I'd say, hey, fry miser, 258 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: what is this the depression? Bring me out some fries. 259 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wreck the place. 260 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: I have had a few experiences, especially this French rest 261 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: height at a French restaurant in San Francisco one time. 262 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: At the time, it was an incredibly expensive meal and 263 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: I think it was one hundred dollars a person, which 264 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: now is what it costs to you everywhere practically. But anyway, 265 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: it was a very expensive meal. And they brought out these. 266 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Little thimbles full of things and I was like, what 267 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: is this. This is a tasting menu, what is this? 268 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: This is my meat? 269 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: This a little tiny little thing of meat, I know, 270 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: and bring you a like a little tiny little screen thing. 271 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: It was your salad. Oh yeah, that reminds me. Hey, 272 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: remind mister Armstrong to bring that up during the radio 273 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: show tomorrow. I have something I know you'll love, the 274 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: tiny portions at French restaurants. Yes, oddly enough. 275 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: That's gonna be our topic tomorrow. That was the only 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: time in my life though, that I've been disappointed in 277 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: a portion, and it was ridiculous. 278 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was over the top. You 279 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: get the taste, you get the texture, you're done, moving on. 280 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: God dang it. I wit that. 281 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: The other day we got burgers and they were just 282 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: they were so enormous, just insanely enormous. 283 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you had a French restaurant like that. You're thinking, 284 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm hungry, order in a pizza, send a message, have 285 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: it delivered right to your table. Anybody, you want any 286 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: food to your meal? Half a pizza delivered your table. 287 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm all great, What am I supposed to do? I 288 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: went out to eat, all right? 289 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: And the thing they did at this expensive French restaurant 290 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, it was like a different waiter for 291 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: every brown. 292 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: Oh good, that's important. 293 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: And the plates were so huge they were like the 294 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: size of a car tire. So I was part of 295 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: the presentation, big giant white plate with a tiny little thing, 296 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: and then like a sprinkle of some sauce that was 297 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: a different color over a ear. 298 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Right right, fantastic? What am I supposed to eat? Then 299 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the dude who brings that can't possibly be the guy 300 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: to bring the room temperature soup that I'm supposed to appreciate? 301 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: One half a spoonful of soup. Ooh, fennel and watermelon. 302 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: So you say your professor had you go into his 303 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: basement to feed the worms. Correct? Little did you know 304 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: that the worms were plotting your demise? That's true. They're 305 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: waiting for me to die. 306 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: I have no idea what he thought. Was I think 307 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: we were going to eat worms in the seventies. I 308 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: think that was the thing. 309 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Or was it that they would be sold for fishing? No? No, no, 310 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: no no. 311 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: It was some new age craze thing where the rocks 312 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: were going to be really worth a lot of money. 313 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: He only had like three fingers left. Shop teacher, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, 314 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: I guess that's it.